It's known and easily locatable in DRH-oscillators.rle or similar, and I remember making a synthesis for it at one point.Billabob wrote:Found a funky looking P4 oscillator with Randcat:

Not sure if it's known, but thought it was worth sharing.Code: Select all

`x = 11, y = 10, rule = B3/S23 2ob5o2bo$2obo3b2obo$b2obob2o$2ob3o$3b3o4bo$o4b3o$5b3ob2o$3b2obob2o$ob 2o3bob2o$o2b5ob2o!`

## Oscillator Discussion Thread

- BlinkerSpawn
**Posts:**1977**Joined:**November 8th, 2014, 8:48 pm**Location:**Getting a snacker from R-Bee's

### Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

### Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Billabob wrote:Found a funky looking P4 oscillator with Randcat: ... Not sure if it's known, but thought it was worth sharing.

I'm not sure who originally found it, or who originally synthesized it (unfortunately, I didn't keep a lot of detailed notes about such things at the time), but the pattern file in my collection is dated 2000-04-14, so the synthesis is at least that old. It has three syntheses, from 24, 28, and 34 gliders respectively. Was yours smaller?BlinkerSpawn wrote:It's known and easily locatable in DRH-oscillators.rle or similar, and I remember making a synthesis for it at one point.

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```
x = 171, y = 145, rule = B3/S23
144bo$143bo$143b3o$131bo8bo$132bo5boo$122bo7b3o6boo$85bo34bobo22bo$83b
obo35boo5boo14bo$52bo31boo41bobo14b3o$47bo3bo15boo18boo40bo$48boob3o
12bobbo16bobbo18boo28boo$47boo17bobbo16bobbo17bobo27bobo$3bo18bo19bo
19bo4boo13bo4boo13bo4boo23bo4boo23bo$bbo5bo12bobo17bobo17bobo17bobo17b
obo27bobo28boo$bb3o3bobo9bobbo16bobbo16bobbo16bobbo16bobbo26bobbo11bo
15bobbo4bo$8boo11boo18boo18boo18boo18boo21b3o4boo11bo16bobo3bobbo$boo
25boo18boo18boo18boo18boo16bo11boo4b3o13bobbo3bobo$obo3b3o18bobbo16bo
bbo16bobbo16bobbo16bobbo14bo11bobbo20bo4bobbo$bbo5bo18bobo17bobo17bobo
17bobo17bobo27bobo27boo$7bo20bo19bo13boo4bo13boo4bo13boo4bo23boo4bo29b
o$42boo17bobbo16bobbo16bobo27bobo$37b3oboo18bobbo16bobbo16boo28boo$39b
o3bo18boo18boo57bo$38bo46boo37b3o14bobo$85bobo38bo14boo5boo$85bo39bo
22bobo$130boo6b3o7bo$131boo5bo$130bo8bo$125b3o$127bo$126bo8$134bo$135b
oo$134boo11bo$138bo7bo$131bo5bo8b3o$132bo4b3o$122bo7b3o$120bobo22bo$
121boo5boo14bo$127bobo14b3o$129bo7boo$136bobbo$136bobbo$132bo4boo23bo$
120bo10bobo28boo$121bo8bobbo11bo15bobbo4bo$119b3obb3o4boo11bo16bobo3bo
bbo$126bo11boo4b3obb3o8bobbo3bobo$125bo11bobbo8bo11bo4bobbo$137bobo10b
o16boo$132boo4bo29bo$131bobbo$131bobbo$132boo7bo$124b3o14bobo$126bo14b
oo5boo$125bo22bobo$138b3o7bo$131b3o4bo$21bo100b3o8bo5bo$19bobo102bo7bo
$20boo101bo11boo$134boo$27bobo106bo$27boo$28bo$23bo$23bobo$23boo$21bo
22boo18boo18boo18boo18boo18boo18boo$19bobo22bo19bo19bo19bo19bo19bo19bo
$20boo23bo19bo19bo19bo19bo19bo19bo$16bo26bobo17bobo17bobo17bobo17bobo
17bobo17bobo$16boo24bobo17bobo6bo10bobo17bobo17bobo17bobo17bobo$15bobo
24boo18boo7bobo8boo18boo18boo18boo18boo$71boo$42boo18boo4boo12boo3boo
13boo3boo13boo3boo13boo3boo13boo3boo$42boo18boo4bobo11boo3boo13boo3boo
13boo3boo13boo3boo13boo3boo$68bo42bo$110bo16boo18boo18boo$25b3o82b3o
13bobo17bobo17bobo$25bo79b3o19bo19bo17bobo$26bo80bo34bo23bo$16b3o87bo
bboo32boo$18bo90bobo30boobboo$17bo91bo35bobo$147bo12$128bobo$129boo$
129bo$125bo17bo$126bo15bo$124b3o15b3o$118bo$119boo$118boo3$34boo18boo
8bo9boo28boo28boo8bobo$34bo19bo10bo8bo29bo29bo9boo$35bo19bo7b3o9bo29bo
29bo9bo$33bobo17bobo17bobo20boo5bobo20boo5bobo$32bobo17bobo11bo5bobo
21bo5bobo21bo5bobo27bo$32boo18boo12boo4boo23b3obboo23b3obboo13boo13boo
$65bobo31bo29bo16boo13bobbo4bo$32boo3boo13boo3boo13boo3boo23boo3boo23b
oo3boo9bo12bobo3bobbo$32boo3boo13boo3boo13boo3boo23boo3boo13bo9boo3boo
21bobbo3bobo$83bobo25bo11boo16bo19bo4bobbo$37boo18boo18boo4boo22boobb
3o8boo13boobb3o23boo$36bobo17bobo17bobo5bo21bobo5bo21bobo5bo23bo$35bob
o17bobo17bobo27bobo5boo20bobo5boo$36bo18bo19bo9b3o17bo19bo9bo$56bo19bo
8bo20bo18boo9bo$33boo20boo18boo9bo18boo17bobo8boo$32boo$28b3o3bo$30bo
120boo$29bo120boo$152bo$32boo92b3o15b3o$33booboo90bo15bo$32bo3bobo88bo
17bo$36bo104bo$140boo$140bobo!
```

### Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

According to DRH-oscillators.rle in the Golly pattern collection, it was discovered by Dean Hickerson before April 1992.mniemiec wrote:Billabob wrote:Found a funky looking P4 oscillator with Randcat: ... Not sure if it's known, but thought it was worth sharing.I'm not sure who originally found itBlinkerSpawn wrote:It's known and easily locatable in DRH-oscillators.rle or similar, and I remember making a synthesis for it at one point.

-Matthias Merzenich

### Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Thanks everyone, I'll remember to check pattern collections before posting next time.

Edit: This reaction looks cheaper to synthesise, but I have no idea how to create the spark + glider:
Edit2: Syntheses of a few miscellaneous objects:
And possible reductions to Octagon 4 and Jack::
What programs are good for finding syntheses of these small, unstable patterns?

18, assuming the block+blinker takes 4 gliders:mniemiec wrote:but the pattern file in my collection is dated 2000-04-14, so the synthesis is at least that old. It has three syntheses, from 24, 28, and 34 gliders respectively.

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```
x = 108, y = 38, rule = Life
4bo$2bobo$3b2o73bo$79bo$77b3o$21bo$21bo$21bo65b2o$14bo67bo4b2o$12bobo
66bobo$13b2o67bo$24b2o$24b2o2$88bo$47bo40b2o$15b3o28bo40bo2bo4bo$17bo
28b3o38bobo3bo2bo$16bo69bo2bo3bobo$32bo54bo4bo2bo$3o28bo61b2o$2bo28b3o
60bo$bo3$23b2o75bo$23b2o74bobo$34b2o58b2o4bo$34bobo57b2o$34bo$27bo$27b
o$27bo$105b3o$105bo$44b2o60bo$44bobo$44bo!
```

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```
x = 59, y = 28, rule = B3/S23
3b2o$3b3o9bo10bo$bob3o10bo7b2o$12b6o$3bo12bo9bobo$bob3o9bo11b2o$o26bo
16bo$bob3o36b2o2$44bobo$39bo5b2o$39bo5bo$38bobo$39bo$39bo5$57bo$57bo$
56bobo$51bo5bo$50b2o5bo$50bobo2$53b2o$52bo!
```

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```
x = 218, y = 97, rule = Life
78bo$79bo$77b3o$14bo$13bo$4bo8b3o$5b2o$4b2o4$84bobo$bo83b2o$2bo82bo$3o
15b2o$17bobo91bo$19bo2bo88bobo$3b2o17bobo61bobo22b2o$2bobo17b2o63b2o$
4bo82bo$21bo$21b2o84bo$20bobo83bo$106b3o3$99bo$97bobo9bobo$98b2o9b2o$
110bo2$106bo$107bo$105b3o$110bo$109bo$109b3o6$103b3o$103bo$104bo$100b
3o$102bo$101bo7$33bo$21bobo7b2o$22b2o8b2o4bo$22bo14bo$37b3o$16bo$17b2o
$16b2o5$146bo$107bo9bo18b2o8bobo56bo$108bo7bo18bo2bo7b2o23b2o30bobo9b
2o$16bo9b3o77b3o7b3o17bobo31bo2bo30b2o8bo2bo$16b2o10bo82b2o24bo33bobo
33b2ob2o2bob2o$15bobo9bo83bobo26b3o3b3o23bo3bo30b2obobobo$111bo34bo29b
o35bobo$119b2o26bo28bo35bob2o$119bobo57b2o32bo$119bo58bo2bo32bobo$179b
obo33b2o$33b2o113b2o30bo$32b2o114bobo52b2o$34bo113bo54bobo$204b2o$19b
2o$20b2o181bo$19bo182b2o$160b3o39bobo$162bo19b2o$161bo20bobo$182bo4$
62b3o$62bo$63bo$10b2o$11b2o$10bo!
```

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```
x = 22, y = 22, rule = Life
14bo$13bobo$6bo6bobo$6bobo5bo$6bobo$7b2o$b2o14b3o$o2bo12bo$b2o13b3o5$
3b3o13b2o$5bo12bo2bo$2b3o14b2o$13b2o$13bobo$7bo5bobo$6bobo6bo$6bobo$7b
o!
```

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```
x = 17, y = 21, rule = B3/S23
2bo11bo$2bo11bo$2b2o9b2o$4b2o5b2o$3b2o7b2o$3bo9bo3$2bo11bo$bobo9bobo$o
3bo7bo3bo$bobo9bobo$2bo11bo3$3bo9bo$3b2o7b2o$4b2o5b2o$2b2o9b2o$2bo11bo
$2bo11bo!
```

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### Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

The other reaction is indeed cheaper, bringing the cost down to 12 gliders:

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```
x = 55, y = 50, rule = B3/S23
10bobo$11b2o$11bo3$12bo$3bobo7b2o$4b2o6b2o$4bo5$52bo$52bobo$52b2o2$47b
o$46bo$46b3o$34b2o$33b2o$35bo5$19bo$20b2o$19b2o$6b3o$8bo$7bo2$b2o$obo$
2bo5$50bo$41b2o6b2o$40b2o7bobo$42bo3$43bo$42b2o$42bobo!
```

Tanner Jacobi

Coldlander, a novel, available in paperback and as an ebook.

Coldlander, a novel, available in paperback and as an ebook.

- Entity Valkyrie
**Posts:**247**Joined:**November 30th, 2017, 3:30 am

### Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Check out my new forum, "is this period 14 sparker known?" for the new period 14 sparker:

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```
x = 22, y = 40, rule = B3/S23
12b2o$2o4bo2bo2bo$bo2b6o4bo$bobo6b4obob2o$2o2bob3o4bobobo$bobob2ob2o2b
2obobo$bob2o3bo3bob2ob2ob2o$2o2bobob4o4bo4bo$2bobob2o4b3o3b3o$2bo2bo3b
3o2b2ob2o$b2o3b3o2bo$8bo4$16bo$16bo$15bobo$16bo$16bo$16bo$16bo$15bobo$
16bo$16bo4$8bo$b2o3b3o2bo$2bo2bo3b3o2b2ob2o$2bobob2o4b3o3b3o$2o2bobob
4o4bo4bo$bob2o3bo3bob2ob2ob2o$bobob2ob2o2b2obobo$2o2bob3o4bobobo$bobo
6b4obob2o$bo2b6o4bo$2o4bo2bo2bo$12b2o!
```

### Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

...Except that's not new, and in fact was discussed on these forums only a few months ago.

### Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

This is known and can be found in jslife in the 'osc' folder (downloadable from this page). You should check jslife if you want to know whether a pattern is already known. You should also check the osc-supplement collection available here.Entity Valkyrie wrote:ss this period 14 sparker known?

-Matthias Merzenich

- Extrementhusiast
**Posts:**1858**Joined:**June 16th, 2009, 11:24 pm**Location:**USA

### Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Say, anyone have any need for a p8 MW emulator?
What I'm looking for right now is a p7+ fountain that's narrow at the front, i.e. stays confined within this history (sample front end also provided):

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```
x = 34, y = 25, rule = B3/S23
13b2o$13bo$14bo16bo$3bo7b3obo14b3o$2bobo7bo2bo5b2o6bob3o$2bobo5bo3b2ob
2obobo5bo3bo$2o2b2o3bob3o2bobobo6bo3bo$bobo2bobobo3bobobob2o4b3obo$bob
4obo3b2o2b2o4bo4b3o$2obobo2b2o3bobo3bobobo4bo$o6b2o4bo8bo$bob2o7b10o$
2o$bob2o7b10o$o6b2o4bo8bo$2obobo2b2o3bobo3bobobo4bo$bob4obo3b2o2b2o4bo
4b3o$bobo2bobobo3bobobob2o4b3obo$2o2b2o3bob3o2bobobo6bo3bo$2bobo5bo3b
2ob2obobo5bo3bo$2bobo7bo2bo5b2o6bob3o$3bo7b3obo14b3o$14bo16bo$13bo$13b
2o!
```

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```
x = 18, y = 37, rule = LifeHistory
17.B2$15.B2$13.B2$11.B$10.2B$9.3B$8.4B$7.5B$6.6B$5.7B$4.8B$3.BA7B$2.B
A8B$2.BA8B$.2B2A7B$3B2A7B$.2B2A7B$2.BA8B$2.BA8B$3.BA7B$4.8B$5.7B$6.6B
$7.5B$8.4B$9.3B$10.2B$11.B2$13.B2$15.B2$17.B!
```

I Like My Heisenburps! (and others)

### Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

It's always nice to see new high-period sparkers! Here's a stator variant that minimizes the bounding box and tries to strike a balance between clearance and population:Extrementhusiast wrote:Say, anyone have any need for a p8 MW emulator?

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```
x = 23, y = 37, rule = B3/S23
11bo$9bo3bo2$5bo2bo5bo2bo$5b4ob3ob4o$3b2o4bo3bo4b2o$2bo3bob3ob3obo3bo$
3b3obo2bobo2bob3o$5bobo7bobo$6b2o7b2o$3bo6bobo6bo$3b7o3b7o2$5b2o9b2o$
5bobobo3bobobo$2b2obo11bob2o$2bo2bob4ob4obo2bo$4bob2o2bobo2b2obo$5o3bo
bobobo3b5o$o4bob2obobob2obo4bo$bo2bo2bob2ob2obo2bo2bo$2o2b3o3bobo3b3o
2b2o$7b2obobob2o$4b5obobob5o$3bo4bobobobo4bo$3b2o4bo3bo4b2o$7b2o5b2o3$
6bo9bo$5bobo7bobo$4bo3bo5bo3bo$3bo3bo7bo3bo$2bo3bo9bo3bo$bo3bo11bo3bo$
2bobo13bobo$3bo15bo!
```

Good luck. I posted a collection of all the known p7 sparkers here.Extrementhusiast wrote: What I'm looking for right now is a p7+ fountain that's narrow at the front, i.e. stays confined within this history (sample front end also provided):Code: Select all

`x = 18, y = 37, rule = LifeHistory 17.B2$15.B2$13.B2$11.B$10.2B$9.3B$8.4B$7.5B$6.6B$5.7B$4.8B$3.BA7B$2.B A8B$2.BA8B$.2B2A7B$3B2A7B$.2B2A7B$2.BA8B$2.BA8B$3.BA7B$4.8B$5.7B$6.6B $7.5B$8.4B$9.3B$10.2B$11.B2$13.B2$15.B2$17.B!`

-Matthias Merzenich

- Extrementhusiast
**Posts:**1858**Joined:**June 16th, 2009, 11:24 pm**Location:**USA

### Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Found a different P7 sparker along the way:
Unfortunately, it doesn't work for the purpose I intended it to, but perhaps it could be useful elsewhere.

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```
x = 23, y = 24, rule = B3/S23
11bo$10bobo$10bobo$9b2ob2o$4b2o8bo$2o2b2o4b3o2bo$2o7bo3b2o$5bo6bo2b3o$
6bob2o2b3o3bo$8bo3bo3bo2bo$8bobob3o3b2o2bo$6b3ob2o8b3o$5bo3bo3bo2b4o$
5b2o2bob2ob2o4bo$10bobob6o$12bobo5b3o$11b2obobob2o2bo$12bobo4bo$12bo2b
4o$9b2ob4o$9bobo4b5o$12b4o4bo$14bo2bo$16b2o!
```

I Like My Heisenburps! (and others)

### Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

That fancy-looking oscillator can spark a beehive into a large explosion that definitely has potential for turning into a gun engine. Here's a simple hassler, to show the interaction:

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```
x = 44, y = 55, rule = B3/S23
37b2o$35bo2bo$33b4o4bo$30bobo4b5o$30b2ob2obo$33bo2b4o$33bobo4bo$32b2ob
4obo2bo$33bobo5b3o$31bobo2b5o$26b2o2bob2obo5bo$26bo3bo3bo3b3o$27b3ob2o
4b2o2b3o$29bobob5ob2o2bo$31bobo2b2o2bo$27b3o5bo3bo$27b3o2b2o2b3o$21b2o
4b2o5b2o$21bo3b2o3b4o2bo$26bo8bo$12b2o8bo7b2ob2o$13bo10bo6bobo$13bobo
15bobo$14b2o6b2o8bo$21bo2bo$22b2o6$11bo16b2o$10bobo15bobo$10bobo6bo10b
o$9b2ob2o7bo8b2o$8bo8bo$7bo2b4o3b2o3bo$8b2o5b2o4b2o$5b3o2b2o2b3o$4bo3b
o5b3o$3bo2b2o2bobo$o2b2ob5obobo$3o2b2o4b2ob3o$3b3o3bo3bo3bo$2bo5bob2ob
o2b2o$3b5o2bobo$3o5bobo$o2bob4ob2o$3bo4bobo$4b4o2bo$7bob2ob2o$2b5o4bob
o$2bo4b4o$5bo2bo$5b2o!
```

Tanner Jacobi

Coldlander, a novel, available in paperback and as an ebook.

Coldlander, a novel, available in paperback and as an ebook.

### Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Very nice. Rephasing the halves decreases the period from 84 to 77:Kazyan wrote:That fancy-looking oscillator can spark a beehive into a large explosion that definitely has potential for turning into a gun engine. Here's a simple hassler, to show the interaction:

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`x = 44, y = 55, rule = B3/S23 37b2o$35bo2bo$33b4o4bo$30bobo4b5o$30b2ob2obo$33bo2b4o$33bobo4bo$32b2ob 4obo2bo$33bobo5b3o$31bobo2b5o$26b2o2bob2obo5bo$26bo3bo3bo3b3o$27b3ob2o 4b2o2b3o$29bobob5ob2o2bo$31bobo2b2o2bo$27b3o5bo3bo$27b3o2b2o2b3o$21b2o 4b2o5b2o$21bo3b2o3b4o2bo$26bo8bo$12b2o8bo7b2ob2o$13bo10bo6bobo$13bobo 15bobo$14b2o6b2o8bo$21bo2bo$22b2o6$11bo16b2o$10bobo15bobo$10bobo6bo10b o$9b2ob2o7bo8b2o$8bo8bo$7bo2b4o3b2o3bo$8b2o5b2o4b2o$5b3o2b2o2b3o$4bo3b o5b3o$3bo2b2o2bobo$o2b2ob5obobo$3o2b2o4b2ob3o$3b3o3bo3bo3bo$2bo5bob2ob o2b2o$3b5o2bobo$3o5bobo$o2bob4ob2o$3bo4bobo$4b4o2bo$7bob2ob2o$2b5o4bob o$2bo4b4o$5bo2bo$5b2o!`

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```
x = 44, y = 55, rule = B3/S23
37b2o$35bo2bo$33b4o4bo$30bobo4b5o$30b2ob2obo$33bo2b4o$33bobo4bo$32b2ob
4obo2bo$33bobo5b3o$31bobo2b5o$26b2o2bob2obo5bo$26bo3bo3bo3b3o$27b3ob2o
4b2o2b3o$29bobob5ob2o2bo$31bobo2b2o2bo$27b3o5bo3bo$27b3o2b2o2b3o$21b2o
4b2o5b2o$21bo3b2o3b4o2bo$26bo8bo$12b2o8bo7b2ob2o$13bo10bo6bobo$13bobo
15bobo$14b2o6b2o8bo$21bo2bo$22b2o6$11bo16b2o$10bobo15bobo$10bobo17bo$
9b2ob2o16b2o$8bo5bo2b2o$7bo2b2obo2bo2b4o$8b2o2b2o2b3ob3o$5b3o4bo3bo$4b
o3bobobo$3bobobo4bo$o2b3ob4obobo$3o3bo4b2ob3o$3b4ob2o3bo3bo$2bo5bob2ob
o2b2o$3b2o5bobo$3o2b4obo$o2b2ob3ob2o$3bobo4bo$4bo2bo2bo$7bob2ob2o$2b5o
4bobo$2bo4b4o$5bo2bo$5b2o!
```

What do you do with ill crystallographers? Take them to the

**!***mono*-clinic### Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

I wrote a search program (inspired by this) to enumerate patterns in a bounded grid, and found a p4 oscillator on a 5x5 grid:
wildmyron then created a wick using it.
Is this oscillator known? If not, it is my first discovery in B3/S23.

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```
x = 5, y = 5, rule = B3/S23:P5,5
b3o$obobo$2ob2o$2o!
```

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```
x = 39, y = 13, rule = B3/S23
9bob2ob2obo3bob2ob2obo$9b2obobob2o3b2obobob2o$5b2o25b2o$6bo2b3o3b3o3b
3o3b3o2bo$6bobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$3b2obob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2o
bob2o$3b2obo4b2ob2o7b2ob2o4bob2o$5b2o25b2o2$2b2o31b2o$3bo31bo$3o33b3o$
o37bo!
```

succ

- BlinkerSpawn
**Posts:**1977**Joined:**November 8th, 2014, 8:48 pm**Location:**Getting a snacker from R-Bee's

### Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

That's a nice osc that I'm not seeing in the archives.blah wrote:I wrote a search program (inspired by this) to enumerate patterns in a bounded grid, and found a p4 oscillator on a 5x5 grid:wildmyron then created a wick using it.Code: Select all

`rle`

Is this oscillator known? If not, it is my first discovery in B3/S23.Code: Select all

`wick`

p4 fenceposts aren't required:

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```
x = 33, y = 9, rule = B3/S23
6bob2ob2obo3bob2ob2obo$6b2obobob2o3b2obobob2o2$6b3o3b3o3b3o3b3o$2b2obo
bobobobobobobobobobobob2o$o2bob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2obo2bo$2obo4b2ob
2o7b2ob2o4bob2o$3bo25bo$3b2o23b2o!
```

### Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

I discovered 5x5 plane oscillators with different periods:
I'm assuming that these are undiscovered, but I'm not sure. The p8 one probably is, and I'm sure the p12 can be used to make a similar wick.

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```
#C p12 oscillator in a 5x5 plane found with dds
x = 5, y = 5, rule = B3/S23:P5,5
b3o$o3bo$o3bo$o2b2o!
```

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```
#C p8 oscillator in a 5x5 plane found with dds
x = 5, y = 5, rule = B3/S23:P5,5
b2o$bo2bo$bob2o$bob2o$bo!
```

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- Redstoneboi
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### Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Those are agars.blah wrote:I discovered 5x5 plane oscillators with different periods:Code: Select all

`#C p12 oscillator in a 5x5 plane found with dds x = 5, y = 5, rule = B3/S23:P5,5 b3o$o3bo$o3bo$o2b2o!`

I'm assuming that these are undiscovered, but I'm not sure. The p8 one probably is, and I'm sure the p12 can be used to make a similar wick.Code: Select all

`#C p8 oscillator in a 5x5 plane found with dds x = 5, y = 5, rule = B3/S23:P5,5 b2o$bo2bo$bob2o$bob2o$bo!`

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### Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

The p12 is known. It was in jslife in this form:
jslife also contains these p8 oscillators:

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```
#C From jslife/wicks/w00012.lif
x = 7, y = 59, rule = B3/S23
4b2o$2obobo$bob2o$o2bo2bo$2o2b3o2$2o2b3o$o2bo2bo$bob2o$2obobo$4b2o2$4b
2o$2obobo$bob2o$o2bo2bo$2o2b3o2$2o2b3o$o2bo2bo$bob2o$2obobo$4b2o2$4b2o
$2obobo$bob2o$o2bo2bo$2o2b3o2$2o2b3o$o2bo2bo$bob2o$2obobo$4b2o2$4b2o$
2obobo$bob2o$o2bo2bo$2o2b3o2$2o2b3o$o2bo2bo$bob2o$2obobo$4b2o2$4b2o$2o
bobo$bob2o$o2bo2bo$2o2b3o2$2o2b3o$o2bo2bo$bob2o$2obobo$4b2o!
```

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```
#C From jslife/osc/o0008.lif
x = 39, y = 12, rule = B3/S23
4b2o3b2o11b2o9b2o$3bobo3bobo9bobo9bobo$3bo7bo9bo13bo$2obo6b2ob2o3b2obo
13bob2o$2obob2o4bob2o3b2obob2o7b2obob2o$3bo4bo2bo9bo4bo3bo4bo$3bobob3o
bo9bobob3ob3obobo$2b2obo3bob2o7b2obo3bobo3bob2o$3bo2b3o12bo2b3o3b3o2bo
$3bo15bobo13bobo$4b3o12b2o3b2obobob2o3b2o$6bo17bob2ob2obo!
```

Did you assume they were in a torus? They aren't. They're in a bounded grid, where cells outside are assumed to be state 0. You can make agars out of them, however:Redstoneboi wrote:Those are agars.

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```
x = 23, y = 23, rule = B3/S23:T24,24
2b3ob3o5b3ob3o2$2o7b2ob2o7b2o$bo2bobo2bo3bo2bobo2bo$b3o3b3o3b3o3b3o2$b
3o3b3o3b3o3b3o$bo2bobo2bo3bo2bobo2bo$2o7b2ob2o7b2o2$2b3ob3o5b3ob3o2$2b
3ob3o5b3ob3o2$2o7b2ob2o7b2o$bo2bobo2bo3bo2bobo2bo$b3o3b3o3b3o3b3o2$b3o
3b3o3b3o3b3o$bo2bobo2bo3bo2bobo2bo$2o7b2ob2o7b2o2$2b3ob3o5b3ob3o!
```

Last edited by blah on May 15th, 2018, 2:55 pm, edited 1 time in total.

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### Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

I haven't personally seen that oscillator before but I cannot imagine it being unknown because of its simplicity. I haven't checked in any lists yet.blah wrote:Oscillator

### Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Every such a bounded grid is isomorphic to a boundless grid with odd lines of symmetry in place of the grey lines, which is isomorphic to 2x2 reflected copies of the rectangle on a torus, which is isomorphic to an agar.blah wrote:Did you assume they were in a torus? They aren't. They're in a bounded grid, where cells outside are assumed to be state 0.

### Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

They all have corresponding agars, but they themselves are not agars, which I think is what he was thinking.mniemiec wrote:Every such a bounded grid is isomorphic to a boundless grid with odd lines of symmetry in place of the grey lines, which is isomorphic to 2x2 reflected copies of the rectangle on a torus, which is isomorphic to an agar.

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### Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Yeah, they

*can*be agars, but they are not*required*to be agars, like patterns on a torus.- Redstoneboi
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### Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Oh, my mistake, sorry. Thought they were in tori.

Probably because I wrote my own program that runs soups in small tori until stabilisation using a (probably inefficient) oscillation detection function.

I found 3*3 waves and stuff, though i lost the data by accident. rip.

Probably because I wrote my own program that runs soups in small tori until stabilisation using a (probably inefficient) oscillation detection function.

I found 3*3 waves and stuff, though i lost the data by accident. rip.

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This is 「Fluffy」

「Fluffy」is my

「Fluffy」has the ability to

「Fluffy」likes to watch spaceship guns in Golly.

「Fluffy」knows Natsuki best girl.

This is 「Fluffy」

「Fluffy」is my

*sutando*.「Fluffy」has the ability to

**engineer r e p l i c a t o r s**.「Fluffy」likes to watch spaceship guns in Golly.

「Fluffy」knows Natsuki best girl.

### Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Run the program again!Redstoneboi wrote:Oh, my mistake, sorry. Thought they were in tori.

Probably because I wrote my own program that runs soups in small tori until stabilisation using a (probably inefficient) oscillation detection function.

I found 3*3 waves and stuff, though i lost the data by accident. rip.

@Hunting so we're making a referential signature chain?

### Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

P10:
People must have found this before.

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```
x = 23, y = 11, rule = B3/S23
4b2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2o$4b2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2o2$2b9ob2ob6o$bo8bo3bobobo2bo$ob
5o5bo2bo4bobo$bo8bo3bobobo2bo$2b9ob2ob6o2$4b2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2o$4b2ob2ob
2ob2ob2ob2o!
```

Still drifting.