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Goldtiger997
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Entity Valkyrie wrote: This reaction might help synthesise it:

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x = 13, y = 10, rule = B3/S23
5b2o$4bo2bo$4bobobo$5bob3o$b2o4b3o$o2bo$obobo5b3o$bo2bo5bo$5bo5bo$2bob o!  Indeed, here's a synthesis for the three variants: Code: Select all x = 64, y = 112, rule = B3/S23 24bo$19bobo2bobo$19b2o3b2o$20bo4$18bo10bo$17bobo9bobo25b2o$16bobo5bobo 2b2o25bo2bo$16b2o6b2o30bobo2bo$25bo31bo$13b2o38b2o3b2obo$12bo2bo11b3o 22bo2bo4bo$12bobo2bo9bo24bobo$13bo14bo24bo$9b2o3b2obo31b2o$8bobo5bo31b o2bo$2bo4bobo38bobo2bo$2b2o4bo40bo$bobo46b2obo$23bo28bo$22b2o$b2o7bo 11bobo$obo7b2o$2bo6bobo2$12b3o$8b2o2bo$7bobo3bo$9bo10$24bo$19bobo2bobo$19b2o3b2o$20bo4$18bo10bo$17bobo9bobo25b2o$16bobo5bobo2b2o25bo2bo$16b 2o6b2o30bobo2bo$25bo31bo$13b2o38b2o3b2obo$12bo2bo11b3o22bo2bo4bo$12bob o2bo9bo24bobo$13bo14bo24bo$14b2obo$4bo11bo$2bobo46bobo$3b2o45bo$6b2o 43bo2bo$7b2o5b2o7bo27bobobo$b3o2bo6bobo6b2o28bo2bo$3bo8bobo7bobo28b2o$2bo10bo4$11b2o$6b3o3b2o$8bo2bo$7bo10$22bobo$17bo4b2o$18b2o3bo$17b2o$
21bo$20bo8bobo$20b3o6b2o$30bo2$29bo29bobo$28bo29bo$13b2o8bo4b3o22b2o4b
o2bo$12bo2bo6bobo27bo2bo3bobobo$12bobo6bobo28bobo5bo2bo$13bob2o4b2o30b o7b2o$2bo11b3o$3b2o10b2o$2b2o47bobo$50bo$51bo2bo$5b3o6b2o35bobobo$bo5b
o5bobo6b2o28bo2bo$b2o3bo5bobo7bobo28b2o$obo10bo8bo5$6bo3b3o$6b2o4bo$5b obo3bo! Moosey Posts: 3294 Joined: January 27th, 2019, 5:54 pm Location: A house, or perhaps the OCA board. Or [click to not expand] Contact: ### Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread Is this large variant of the t-nosed p4 known? I found it when looking for the schick engine in JLS before I knew how to use JLS. Code: Select all x = 26, y = 15, rule = B3/S23 11b2o3b2ob2o3b2o$5bo3bo3bobob2o2bobobo$4bo2b2o2bobob2o4bobo$5bob3o2b2o
3b2o2bobobo$5bobobo2bo3b2ob2o3b2o$2bob4o4b3o$o6bob3o3b6o$o4b2o5bobo6bo
$o6bob3o3b6o$2bob4o4b3o$5bobobo2bo3b2ob2o3b2o$5bob3o2b2o3b2o2bobobo$4b o2b2o2bobob2o4bobo$5bo3bo3bobob2o2bobobo$11b2o3b2ob2o3b2o!  I am a prolific creator of many rather pathetic googological functions My CA rules can be found here Also, the tree game Bill Watterson once wrote: "How do soldiers killing each other solve the world's problems?" Hdjensofjfnen Posts: 1520 Joined: March 15th, 2016, 6:41 pm Location: r cis θ ### Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread Entity Valkyrie 2 wrote:For butter, I would rather have it listed as "butter stabilized by 2 cis/trans molds", and refer the hassled object as "butter". Does it warrant a wiki page? EDIT: Actually, I'd prefer "butter with cis-molds", "butter with trans-molds", and "butter with skew molds". "A man said to the universe: 'Sir, I exist!' 'However,' replied the universe, 'The fact has not created in me A sense of obligation.'" -Stephen Crane Code: Select all x = 7, y = 5, rule = B3/S2-i3-y4i 4b3o$6bo$o3b3o$2o$bo!  Hunting Posts: 3042 Joined: September 11th, 2017, 2:54 am ### Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread Hdjensofjfnen wrote: Entity Valkyrie 2 wrote:For butter, I would rather have it listed as "butter stabilized by 2 cis/trans molds", and refer the hassled object as "butter". Does it warrant a wiki page? EDIT: Actually, I'd prefer "butter with cis-molds", "butter with trans-molds", and "butter with skew molds". Agreed. MLP will live on forever, so does John Horton Conway. Moosey wrote: February 5th, 2019, 7:51 pm “New knightship tagalong!” “Quick, hide it!” My TODO list LeapLife - DirtyLife - LispLife I could make a rule in ten seconds flat Sokwe Moderator Posts: 1638 Joined: July 9th, 2009, 2:44 pm ### Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread Hdjensofjfnen wrote:Does it warrant a wiki page? Check the LifeWiki notability guidelines to get a sense of what warrants a wiki page. I would say a page is not warranted in this case. Small patterns like this belong in pattern collections, not on the wiki. -Matthias Merzenich Hunting Posts: 3042 Joined: September 11th, 2017, 2:54 am ### Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread Is this known? Code: Select all x = 16, y = 16, rule = B3/S23 4b2ob2o3bo2bo$5bobo4b4o$bobo3bo2b2o$ob6obo3b3o$o7bo2b2o2bo$bob2obo2b2o
2b2o$2b2obob2o2bo$5bo2bo2b4o$2b2o2bo8bo$2bo4bo5b3o$2b2obob2o3bo$2b2o3b
o2bo2bo$b3o2bob2o3bo$o4b3o3b2o$2o2bob3o$4bob2o!
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Hunting wrote:Is this known?

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x = 16, y = 16, rule = B3/S23
4b2ob2o3bo2bo$5bobo4b4o$bobo3bo2b2o$ob6obo3b3o$o7bo2b2o2bo$bob2obo2b2o 2b2o$2b2obob2o2bo$5bo2bo2b4o$2b2o2bo8bo$2bo4bo5b3o$2b2obob2o3bo$2b2o3b o2bo2bo$b3o2bob2o3bo$o4b3o3b2o$2o2bob3o$4bob2o! There are too many p3 oscillators to keep track of them all. We usually only save them when they have some special property (e.g., if they are small or sparky or have high volatility). I can't see anything obvious about this pattern that makes it notable. Anyway, here is a stator minimization found with JLS: Code: Select all x = 16, y = 14, rule = B3/S23 4bo2bo$2b6o2bo$bo6b3o$bobob2o$2b2o3b2o$5bo2bo$2b5o8bo$bo2b2o7b3o$7b2o 3bo$2b2obobo2bo2bo$2b2obo2b4obo$o10b2o$2ob3ob3o$7bo!
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Has anybody looked at alternate stabilizations for various oscillators?
This is really close to snacker:

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x = 23, y = 13, rule = B3/S23
2o$bo16b2o$bobo12bo2bo$2b2o12b3o$7bo4bo6b3o$5b2ob4ob2o3bo3bo$7bo4bo6b
3o$16b3o$16bo2bo$3b2o13b2o$4bo$b3o$bo!
#C [[ STOP 9 ]]

Also,
Can anyone tell me:
Moosey wrote:Is this large variant of the t-nosed p4 known?
I found it when looking for the schick engine in JLS before I knew how to use JLS.

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x = 26, y = 15, rule = B3/S23
11b2o3b2ob2o3b2o$5bo3bo3bobob2o2bobobo$4bo2b2o2bobob2o4bobo$5bob3o2b2o 3b2o2bobobo$5bobobo2bo3b2ob2o3b2o$2bob4o4b3o$o6bob3o3b6o$o4b2o5bobo6bo$o6bob3o3b6o$2bob4o4b3o$5bobobo2bo3b2ob2o3b2o$5bob3o2b2o3b2o2bobobo$4b
o2b2o2bobob2o4bobo$5bo3bo3bobob2o2bobobo$11b2o3b2ob2o3b2o!

Also, can this be made into a TL hassler?

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x = 21, y = 15, rule = B3/S23
10bo$9bobo$4b2o2bo3bo2b2o$4b2o3bobo3b2o$10bo2$4bo3bobobo3bo$3bobo9bobo
$3bobo9bobo$2obobob7obobob2o$2obo13bob2o$3bo13bo$3bobo4bo4bobo$4b2o3bo
bo3b2o$10bo!  P32 could be doable: Code: Select all x = 21, y = 13, rule = B3/S23 4b2o4bo4b2o$4b2o4bo4b2o$10bo2$4bo3bobobo3bo$3bobo9bobo$3bobo9bobo$2obo bob7obobob2o$2obo13bob2o$3bo13bo$3bobo4bo4bobo$4b2o3bobo3b2o$10bo!
#C [[ STOP 32 ]]
But only if we get rid of all but one of the TL’s blinkers.

EDIT:
Wow.

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x = 21, y = 23, rule = B3/S23
10bo$9bobo$9bobo$10bo2$5b2o7b2o$4bo2bo5bo2bo$5b2o7b2o2$10bo$9bobo$9bob o$10bo2$4bo3bobobo3bo$3bobo9bobo$3bobo9bobo$2obobob7obobob2o$2obo13bob 2o$3bo13bo$3bobo4bo4bobo$4b2o3bobo3b2o$10bo!  Any completion of this oscillator? Code: Select all x = 21, y = 13, rule = B3/S23 8bobobo$10bo$10bo2$4bo3bobobo3bo$3bobo9bobo$3bobo9bobo$2obobob7obobob 2o$2obo13bob2o$3bo13bo$3bobo4bo4bobo$4b2o3bobo3b2o$10bo!

#C[[ STOP 4 ]]
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Scorbie
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Moosey wrote:Is this large variant of the t-nosed p4 known?
I guess the t-nosed p4 was enough for most GoL endeavors. Here's a reduction.

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x = 15, y = 17, rule = B3/S23
7bo$6b3o$6b3o$6b3o$5b2ob2o$b2o3bobo3b2o$obo9bobo$o13bo$b4o5b4o$5b5o$b
3obo3bob3o$o2bobo3bobo2bo$o6bo6bo$b13o2$3b4ob4o$3bo2bobo2bo! Best wishes to you, Scorbie Sokwe Moderator Posts: 1638 Joined: July 9th, 2009, 2:44 pm ### Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread Moosey wrote:Has anybody looked at alternate stabilizations for various oscillators? This is really close to snacker: Code: Select all x = 23, y = 13, rule = B3/S23 2o$bo16b2o$bobo12bo2bo$2b2o12b3o$7bo4bo6b3o$5b2ob4ob2o3bo3bo$7bo4bo6b 3o$16b3o$16bo2bo$3b2o13b2o$4bo$b3o$bo! #C [[ STOP 9 ]] While it looks close at generation 9, you need to look at how you can modify generations 7 or 8 to get to the correct generation 9. I personally didn't see anything obvious. Moosey wrote:Is this large variant of the t-nosed p4 known? It's not "known", but I don't see what it could be used for that couldn't already be accomplished with a smaller sparker. Moosey wrote:Also, can this be made into a TL hassler? Code: Select all x = 21, y = 15, rule = B3/S23 10bo$9bobo$4b2o2bo3bo2b2o$4b2o3bobo3b2o$10bo2$4bo3bobobo3bo$3bobo9bobo$3bobo9bobo$2obobob7obobob2o$2obo13bob2o$3bo13bo$3bobo4bo4bobo$4b2o3bo bo3b2o$10bo!

Maybe. It has been considered before. Here are some TL push reactions:

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x = 526, y = 357, rule = B3/S23
247b2o4bo4b2o$246bo2bobo3bobo2bo113b2o$246b3o9b3o112bo2bo$116b3o125b2o 3b2o5b2o113bo2bobo65b3o$117b2o124bobo2bo2b5o2bo116bo66b3o$81bobobo9bob obo16b2o81bobobo9bobobo25bobobobo7b2o14b2o2bo6b2o30b2o53bob2o67b3o77bo$o10bobobo101bo126bobobo24bo2bobo5b2o22b2o6b2o54bo72b3o73bobo$30b3o52b o9bo17b2o88bo9bo3bo28bo27bobobo28bo2bo87bobobo10bo3bobobo23b3o$o14bo
15b3o2bo77bob2o127bo2bo24b2obob2o26bobobo29bo3bo9bobobo2bobobo10bo68b
3o73bo$35bo45bobobo2bobobo2bobobo16bo82bobobo2bobobo2bobobo27bo6bo19bo 3bo3bo25bobob2o64b2o20bo14bo3bo23b2o78b2o$o3bobobo2bobobo19bo80bo128bo
3bo2b2o17bobobo4bo4bo18b2obobo2bo4bo22bo3bo13bo6bo10bo63b3o37bobobo9bo
bobo2bobobo12b5o$35bo45bo17bo103bo13bo27bo6bo18bo3b2o3bo4b2o17bo2bo3b 3o3b2o79bobobo2bobobo3bo3bobobo17bob2o75b2ob2o$o14bo15b3o2bo79bobo126b
o2bo23b2obo4bo4bo15b2obo2bobo2bo4bo22bobobo2bobobo2bobobo2bobobo72bobo
39bo17bo2bo3bo15bo$30b3o48bobobo9bobobo15bo83bobobo9bobobo28bo29bo3bo 20bo2b2o4b2o90bo10bo3bo3bo16bo2bo6bo$o10bobobo99bo128bobobo21b5obob2o
22b2o4bobo33bo9bo6bo77b2o7b2o30bobobo2bobobo2bobobo2bo3bo$115bo127bobo bobo7b2o11bo2bo2bobo25bobobobo62bo24bobobo10bo3bobobo26bo76bo$116bobo
124bobo2bo2b5o2bo16bo2bo5b2o18bo4bo6b2o26bo9bobobo2bobobo6b2o106bo3bo
13bo2bo3bo18b2o$244b2o3b2o5b2o18b2o6b2o19b4o7b2o55bo151bo$116bo129b3o
9b3o45bo173bobobo9bobobo2bobobo$116bo129bo2bobo3bobo2bo43bo72bo70bo$
114bob2o129b2o4bo4b2o44b2o69b2obo60b2o7b2o$113b2o259bo63bo2bo6bo76bo$
117bo255bobo2bo59bobo83b2o$116b2o255bo2bo62bob2o82bo$117b2o255b2o64b3o
$31bo84b3o322b2o$30b2o413b3o73bo$o10bo3bo13bob2o412b3o70b2ob2o$28b3o2b
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163b3o76bo$o3bobobo2bobobo16bo2b3o15bo3bo192bobobobo14bobobobo164b3o$
33b2obo213bo5bo14bo5bo243bobo$o14bo18b2o3bo211bo3bo16bo3bo245bo$34bo4b
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15bo20bo26bobobo10bo3bobobo22bo2bo16b2o6bo163bobob5o3b4o68bo$29bobobo 47bo17bo12b2o4b2o8b2o4b2o12bo2bo5bo12bobo71bo5b3o10b3o6b2o161b2ob2o5bo bo3bo$30bobobo78bo4bo10bo4bo16bo4b2o11bo3bo70bo3bo2bo11b3o6bo162bo5bo
3bobobo31bobobo9bobobo2bobobo14b3o$31bo2b3o44bobobo13bo47bo3bo5bo12bob o71bo18b3o170bob4o4bo2b2o69bo3bo$32b2obo3bo107bo3bo19bo72bo2bo15b3o
130bobobo9bobobo2bobobo14bo11b2o31bo17bo2bo17bo3bo$33b2o3b2o75b2o34bo 17bo75bo18b2o254bo3bo$33bo5bo75b2o12bo4bo13bo2bo91bobobo17bo130bo17bo
2bo3bo59bobobo2bobobo2bobobo2bobobo14b3o$128b2o4b2o14bo91bobob2o15bobo bo$129bo4bo13bobobo89bobo17bobob2o128bobobo2bobobo2bobobo2bo3bo59bo3bo
13bo6bo14b3o$147bobob2o90b2o17bobo255bo3bo$147bobo113b2o135bo9bo6bo3bo
29bo29bobobo9bobobo2bobobo13bo3bo$131b2o15b2o293b2o5b2o68bo3bo$131b2o
263bobobo9bobobo2bobobo21bo2bo4bo69b3o$444b3o$520bo$444b3o$443bo2bo4bo
$32b2o409b2o5b2o$31bo2bo416bo$bo10bobobo13bobobo75b2o3b2o20b2obo153b2o 23b2o$30bobob2o73bo2bobobo20bob4o122b2o26bo2bo21bo2bo$bo10bo15b2obobo 2bo3bo68b2obobo19b2obo5bob2o117bo2bo24bobobo20bobobo$28bo2bo3b3ob2o65b
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b2ob2o96bo11b2o$bo14bo9b2o4bobo73bobobob2o18bo2bobobo6bo15b2o3b2o70bo 2b2o4bo10b3o2b2o6bo62bo98bob4o4bo2b2o$28bobobobo71b8obo2b3o14bobob5ob
3o15bo2bobo2bo28bobobo2bobobo3bo4bo21b2ob2o2b2o9bobo2bobo3bob2o39bo18b
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obobo2bob2ob2o3bo13b2ob2obob2o5bo20bobobo10bo4bo20bo2b2o17bobobo18bob
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8bo4b2obobo31b2o2bob2o133bo$34bo2bo4bo2bo65b2o9b3obobo4bo29b2o2b2o136b 2o$36bo6bo6b3o71b2o6b2o33b2o130bob2o6bo$299bo2bo3bo$247bo5bo44bo3bob3o
$246b3o3b3o42bo11bo$36bobo2bobo256b3obo3bo$32b2obo2bo2bo2bob2o154bobob o10bo3bobobo74bo3bo2bo$36bobo2bobo253bo6b2obo$206bo10bo7bo21b2o3b2o46b 2o$241bo6bo3bo6bo42bo141bo$202bobobo2bobobo3bo3bobobo14b2o3bo9bo3b2o 21bo20bo2bo137b3o$241bo3b2o7b2o3bo24bobo21bobo136bo$206bo10bo3bo62bo2b o20bo2bo134b2o$284bobo21bobo$202bobobo10bo3bobobo223bo$241bo3b2o7b2o3b
o21b3o21b3o141bo$240b2o3bo9bo3b2o188bo$241bo6bo3bo6bo24bobo21bobo$247b 2o3b2o30bo2bo20bo2bo$284bobo21bobo86bobobo9bobobo2bo3bo$118b2o3b2o157b o20bo2bo142bo$119bo3bo178bo94bo17bo2bo3bo18b2o6b2o$119bobobo122b3o3b3o 45b2o139b2o6bo$117b2obobob2o121bo5bo43bo6b2obo89bobobo2bobobo2bobobo2b
obobo$117bo2bobo2bo174bo3bo2bo$81bobobo10bo4bo17b2ob2o18bo12bo144b3obo
3bo92bo9bo10bo$297bo11bo131b2o6bo$85bo10bo4bo14bo9bo15b3o10b3o140bo3bo
b3o90bobobo9bobobo6bo18b2o6b2o$115b2o9b2o11bobo3bo8bo3bo140bo2bo3bo 142bo$81bobobo2bobobo3bo4bo14bo9bo14bo3bo6bobo3bo140bob2o6bo$141bo3bo 8bo3bo146b2o$81bo14bo4bo17b2ob2o18b3o10b3o91b2o53bo$117bo2bobo2bo122bo bo49bo2bo145bo$81bobobo10bo4bo15b2obobob2o16bo12bo92bo200bo$119bobobo 118b2o2b2ob4o196bo$119bo3bo118bo2bobobo2bo$118b2o3b2o119b2o4bo2b2o191b 2o$245bob2o2b2o2bo191bo$245bobob2o2b2obo187b3o$203bobobo10bo3bobobo19b
o5bo3bo31bo155bo$247b3obob3o31b3o$207bo10bo7bo22bobobo2$203bobobo2bobo bo3bo3bobobo14b3o6b3o$240bo46b3o$148b2o57bo10bo7bo13bo3bo$148b2o90bo2b
obo8bo3bo22bo3bo5bo3bo$203bobobo10bo3bobobo15bobo2bo6bo3b2o20b2o3bo5bo 3b2o$148b4o91bo3bo6bo3bo22bo3bo5bo3bo$147bo3bo95bo$148bo95b3o40b3o$148bo101b3o$149bo$148bobo98bobobo$149bo97b3obob3o31b3o$145b2o99bo5bo3b o31bo$141b2o2bo99bobob2o2b2obo$141bobobo4bo94bob2o2b2o2bo$143bob2o3b2o
92b2o4bo2b2o$141bobobo4bo91bo2bobobo2bo$141b2o2bo96b2o2b2ob4o$145b2o 101bo$149bo98bobo$148bobo98b2o$149bo$148bo$148bo$147bo3bo$148b4o2$148b 2o$148b2o$248b2o$249bo$247bo$247b5o63bo16b2o$251bo61b3o15bo2bo$204bobo
bo10bo3bo3bo17b4o63bo16bo2bobo$245bo2bo54b2o7b2o19bo$208bo10bo3bo3bo
51b3o3b3o16bo24bob2o$280bo5bo17bobo23bo$204bobobo2bobobo3bo3bobobo16bo
5bo24b2o28b2o$243bobo3b2o23bobo13bo19bo23bo$208bo10bo7bo15bobo4bo23bo
14b2o19b2o22b2o$244bo28b2o5b2o8bo19bo23bo$204bobobo10bo7bo52b2o$244bo$
243bobo4bo$243bobo3b2o33b2o4bo19bo21bo$244bo5bo33b2o3b2o18b2o20b2o$290bo19bo21bo$314b2o$245bo2bo65bobo19bo$245b4o38b2o27bo17b2obo$251bo 36bo18b2o7b2o15bo$247b5o33b3o20bo23bobo2bo$247bo37bo19b3o24bo2bo$249bo
55bo27b2o$248b2o6$245bo6bo$245b3o4b3o$248bo6bo$247b2o5b2o80bo2$250bo6b
o53bo22b3obo$250bo6bo53b3o19bob2o$250bo6bo27b2o3b2o22bo18b2obo$285bobo bobo21b2o16bob3o$287bobo$286b2ob2o42bo$250bo6bo58bo20bo$250b2o4b2o52b 2o4b2o18b2o$250bo6bo52b2o4bo20bo$285bo5bo$284b2o5b2o$285bo5bo42bo$250b
o6bo58bo17b2o$250b2o4b2o58b2o16bo$250bo6bo58bo21bo$284bo7bo$283bobo5bo
bo18bo23b3obo$284bo7bo18bob2o20bob2o$250bo6bo57bo19b2obo$250bo6bo53bo 2bobo16bob3o$250bo6bo55bo2bo$314b2o19bo$247b2o5b2o$248bo6bo$245b3o4b3o
$245bo6bo8$328b2o4b2o4b2o$327bo2bobo4bobo2bo$327b3o10b3o$330b2o6b2o$
329bo2b6o2bo$329b2o8b2o$268b2o$246bo20b3o$245bobo4bo13bobo2bo2b2o$200b obobo10bo3bobobo22bo4b2o13b2o2b2o2b2o$252bo17b2o$204bo10bo3bo86bo8bo 20bo$279bo26b2o6b2o20b2o$200bobobo2bobobo3bo3bobobo55b2o25bo8bo20bo$
252bo26bo$204bo10bo7bo22bo4b2o$245bobo4bo$200bobobo10bo3bobobo22bo59bo 8bo20bo$279bo26b2o6b2o20b2o$278b2o26bo8bo20bo$279bo2$287b2o$283b2o2b2o
2b2o$283b2o2bo2bobo$289b3o39b2o8b2o$289b2o40bo2b6o2bo$332b2o6b2o$329b 3o10b3o$329bo2bobo4bobo2bo$330b2o4b2o4b2o6$250bo$199bobobo10bo3bobobo$
251b3o$203bo10bo3bo3bo$249bo5bo$199bobobo2bobobo3bo3bobobo21b3o2bo5bo$
249bo5bo$203bo10bo3bo3bo19bo5bo$242bo5bo2b3o$199bobobo10bo3bobobo19bo 5bo2$244b3o2$247bo10$271b2ob2o$271bo12bo$199bobobo9bobobo2bobobo47b2o
2bo7bo$251bo21b3o8bo8bo$203bo13bo2bo21bo8b2o20b3o17b2o$241b2o8bo20b2o 2bo3b3o3b3o4bo$199bobobo2bobobo2bobobo2bobobo17bo28bo$271b2ob2o8bo$
203bo9bo10bo59bo$278b2o4bo$199bobobo9bobobo2bobobo52bo2bo$276bo4bo$
275bo6bo$275bo6bo$276bo4bo$277bo2bo$278b2o11$253b2o11b2o$252bobo$252bo 11bo3bo$247bob2ob2o4b2o4bo4bo$247b2ob2o5bobo6bobobo$252bo4bo9bobobo$252bo2bo3bo8bo4bo$200bobobo9bobobo2bobobo26b2obobo11bo3bo$252bo4bo7b2o$204bo13bo2bo3bo4bo20b3o4bo2bo2bo5b2o$252bo4bo6bo$200bobobo2bobobo2bob
obo2bo3bo2bobobo19b2obobo6bo3bo$252bo2bo3bo5b3o$204bo13bo2bo3bo4bo21bo
4bo$247b2ob2o5bobo$200bobobo9bobobo2bobobo21bob2ob2o4b2o6b3o$252bo$
252bobo9bo5bo$253b2o9bo5bo$264bo5bo2$266b3o! Perhaps p4 or p5 sparkers could be found to make a p20 work: Code: Select all x = 51, y = 17, rule = B3/S23 6bo3bo2bo23bo2bo2bo$6bo2bobo27bobo$8bo3bo25bo3bo$9bobo27bobo$4b2o4bo4b 2o17b2o4bo4b2o$4b2o9b2o17b2o9b2o3$4bo11bo17bo11bo$3bobo9bobo15bobo9bob
o$3bobo2b5o2bobo15bobo2b5o2bobo$2obo2bob5obo2bob2o9b2obo2bob5obo2bob2o
$2obo4b5o4bob2o9b2obo4b5o4bob2o$3bo13bo15bo13bo$3bobo4bo4bobo15bobo4bo 4bobo$4b2o3bobo3b2o17b2o3bobo3b2o$10bo29bo! Moosey wrote:P32 could be doable: Code: Select all x = 21, y = 13, rule = B3/S23 4b2o4bo4b2o$4b2o4bo4b2o$10bo2$4bo3bobobo3bo$3bobo9bobo$3bobo9bobo$2obo bob7obobob2o$2obo13bob2o$3bo13bo$3bobo4bo4bobo$4b2o3bobo3b2o$10bo!
#C [[ STOP 32 ]]
But only if we get rid of all but one of the TL’s blinkers.
This has been known for some time, but it hasn't made it into any of the pattern collections yet:

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x = 21, y = 22, rule = B3/S23
7b2o$3b4o4b2o$3b3ob2o2b2o$8bo7$4b2o4bo4b2o$4b2o4bo4b2o$10bo2$4bo3bobob o3bo$3bobo9bobo$3bobo9bobo$2obobob7obobob2o$2obo13bob2o$3bo13bo$3bobo 9bobo$4b2o3b3o3b2o!
There is also this closely related p32 in jslife:

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x = 21, y = 26, rule = B3/S23
10bo$4b2o3bobo3b2o$3bobo4bo4bobo$3bo13bo$2obo13bob2o$2obobob7obobob2o$
3bobo9bobo$3bobo9bobo$4bo3bobobo3bo4$5b2o2b3o2b2o$5b2o2bobo2b2o$9b3o3$
4bo5bo5bo$3bobob7obobo$3bob11obo$2obobo9bobob2o$2ob2o11b2ob2o$3bo13bo$
3bobo4bo4bobo$4b2o3bobo3b2o$10bo!
Moosey wrote:Any completion of this oscillator?

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x = 21, y = 13, rule = B3/S23
8bobobo$10bo$10bo2$4bo3bobobo3bo$3bobo9bobo$3bobo9bobo$2obobob7obobob
2o$2obo13bob2o$3bo13bo$3bobo4bo4bobo$4b2o3bobo3b2o$10bo! #C[[ STOP 4 ]] Yes, but since it doesn't increase the period it's not really considered interesting: Code: Select all x = 27, y = 31, rule = B3/S23 5b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o$6bo3bo5bo3bo$6bob2o2bobo2b2obo$4b2obobob2ob2obobob2o$5bobobobo3bobobobo$5bob3obo3bob3obo$6b5o5b5o3$11bobobo$7b3o3bo3b3o$8bo
4bo4bo$8bo9bo$11bobobo$8bo9bo$7b2o9b2o$3bo3b2ob7ob2o3bo$2bobo17bobo$2b obobo13bobobo$b2obobo3bobobobo3bobob2o$bo5bobob2ob2obobo5bo$2b2ob2o2bo
bo3bobo2b2ob2o$3bobo3bobob2o2bo3bobo$3bob4o3bo2b2ob4obo$2obobo8bo2bo3b obob2o$o2bo2b5o4bo2b3o2bo2bo$2b2ob2o4bo4b2o2b2ob2o$4bo3b3o7bo3bo$4bobo bo9bobobo$5bobo11bobo$6bo13bo! -Matthias Merzenich Bullet51 Posts: 556 Joined: July 21st, 2014, 4:35 am ### Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread Sokwe wrote:Perhaps p4 or p5 sparkers could be found to make a p20 work: Code: Select all x = 35, y = 29, rule = B3/S23 5b2o21b2o$4bo2bo19bo2bo$4b2obo19bob2o$5bob2o17b2obo$o2bo3bo19bo3bo2bo$
4obob2o17b2obob4o$8bo17bo$2b3o3bo17bo3b3o$2bo2bo2b2o15b2o2bo2bo$3b2o4b
ob2ob2o3b2ob2obo4b2o$10bo4bo3bo4bo$11bo11bo$11bo2bo2bo2bo2bo$16bobo$15bo3bo$16bobo$11b2o4bo4b2o$11b2o9b2o3$11bo11bo$10bobo9bobo$10bobo2b5o 2bobo$7b2obo2bob5obo2bob2o$7b2obo4b5o4bob2o$10bo13bo$10bobo4bo4bobo$
11b2o3bobo3b2o$17bo!  Still drifting. Bullet51 Posts: 556 Joined: July 21st, 2014, 4:35 am ### Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread Bullet51, long ago wrote:Rephrasing reaction: P5+P3=P10 Code: Select all x = 20, y = 20, rule = b3s23 3b2o$3b2o2$b4o12b2o$o4bo11b2o$b3obo3b2o3bo$3bob2o3bo3b5o$5bo2bo10bo$2o
2bo2b3o2b3ob3o$o2bob2o4bo3b2o$b3o3b4ob2o$4bobo3bobob5o$b2obo2bo3b2o6bo
$bo3bobo2bobob5o$2b3o3b3ob2o$4bob2o3bo3b2o$5bo2b3o2b2obo$3bobo2bo5bo$
3b2o9bobo$15b2o!  (The pattern above is found by WLS) I'm wondering whether a variable-period 3xn search program could produce more results. Code: Select all x = 19, y = 15, rule = lifehistory 2.2A$3.A$.A$.2A$4.2A.2A$.3A.A.A.A3.2A$A2.A.A4DC2D.A$2A3.A2DCDC2DA3.2A
$4.A.2DC4DA.A2.A$4.2A3.A.A.A.3A$10.2A.2A$16.2A$17.A$15.A$15.2A!  (Found by a 3xn drifter search) EDIT: unrelated osc(p9) Code: Select all x = 23, y = 23, rule = B3S23 14b2o$15bo$4b2o4b2obo$4bo2bobo2b3o$5b3ob2o4bo3b2o$11b4obobobo$5b6o3bob obo$2o2bo5b5obob2o$o2bob3o8bo$2b2obobob5o2bob2o$3bobobob2ob2ob2obobo$
2bo2bobobo3bobobo2bo$2bobob2ob2ob2obobobo$3b2obo2b5obobob2o$6bo8b3obo 2bo$3b2obob5o5bo2b2o$4bobobo3b6o$2bobobob4o$2b2o3bo4b2ob3o$8b3o2bobo2b
$4.A.2DC4DA.A2.A$4.2A3.A.A.A.3A$10.2A.2A$16.2A$17.A$15.A$15.2A!  (Found by a 3xn drifter search) That can be reduced by 4 cells by tiling the bookends the other way and using blocks. Here's the RLE, which I painstakingly typed by hand because I'm away from Golly: Code: Select all x = 0, y = 0, rule = B3/S23 2o2b2ob2o$o2bobobobo3b2ob2o$b3obo2bobo3bob2o$5bo7bo$b2obo3bobo2bob3o$b2ob2o3bobobobo2bo$10b2ob2o2b2o!  EDIT: No, wait, you can trim another four, and I think this is minimal: Code: Select all x = 0, y = 0, rule = B3/S23 4b2ob2o$3bobobobo3b2ob2o$b3obo2bobo3bobobo$o4bo7bo4bo$obobo3bobo2bob3o$b2ob2o3bobobobo$10b2ob2o!  "A man said to the universe: 'Sir, I exist!' 'However,' replied the universe, 'The fact has not created in me A sense of obligation.'" -Stephen Crane Code: Select all x = 7, y = 5, rule = B3/S2-i3-y4i 4b3o$6bo$o3b3o$2o$bo!  BlinkerSpawn Posts: 1964 Joined: November 8th, 2014, 8:48 pm Location: Getting a snacker from R-Bee's ### Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread Hdjensofjfnen wrote: EDIT: No, wait, you can trim another four, and I think this is minimal: Code: Select all rle Unless you don't care for minimal bounding box, yes. The p9, since memory says Sokwe already ran the p10 through JLS: Code: Select all x = 23, y = 23, rule = B3S23 14b2o$15bo$4b2o4b2obo$4bo2bobo2b3o$5b3ob2o4bo3b2o$11b4obobobo$5b6o3bob obo$2o2bo5b5obob2o$o2bob3o8bo$2b2obobob5o2bob2o$3bobobob2ob2ob2obobo$
2bo2bobobo3bobobo2bo$2bobob2ob2ob2obobobo$3b2obo2b5obobob2o$6bo8b3obo 2bo$3b2obob5o5bo2b2o$4bobobo3b6o$2bobobob4o$2b2o3bo4b2ob3o$8b3o2bobo2b
o$9bob2o4b2o$7bo$7b2o! LifeWiki: Like Wikipedia but with more spaceships. [citation needed] A for awesome Posts: 2048 Joined: September 13th, 2014, 5:36 pm Location: 0x-1 Contact: ### Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread BlinkerSpawn wrote: The p9, since memory says Sokwe already ran the p10 through JLS: Code: Select all RLE Reduced: Code: Select all x = 19, y = 19, rule = B3/S23 11b2o$5bo2bo2bo$5b4o4bo$9b4obo$3b6o3bobo$2bo5b5obob2o$o2b3o8bobo$2obo
bob5o2bobo$3bobob2ob2ob2ob2o$3bobobo3bobobo$b2ob2ob2ob2obobo$2bobo2b5o
bobob2o$2bobo8b3o2bo$b2obob5o5bo$4bobo3b6o$4bob4o$5bo4b4o$7bo2bo2bo$6b 2o!  x₁=ηx V ⃰_η=c²√(Λη) K=(Λu²)/2 Pₐ=1−1/(∫^∞_t₀(p(t)ˡ⁽ᵗ⁾)dt) $$x_1=\eta x$$ $$V^*_\eta=c^2\sqrt{\Lambda\eta}$$ $$K=\frac{\Lambda u^2}2$$ $$P_a=1-\frac1{\int^\infty_{t_0}p(t)^{l(t)}dt}$$ http://conwaylife.com/wiki/A_for_all Aidan F. Pierce BlinkerSpawn Posts: 1964 Joined: November 8th, 2014, 8:48 pm Location: Getting a snacker from R-Bee's ### Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread A for awesome wrote: BlinkerSpawn wrote: The p9, since memory says Sokwe already ran the p10 through JLS: Code: Select all very much unreduced oscillator Reduced: Code: Select all reduced oscillator  Aagh, I did exactly that but failed to replace the original pattern in my clipboard. LifeWiki: Like Wikipedia but with more spaceships. [citation needed] Bullet51 Posts: 556 Joined: July 21st, 2014, 4:35 am ### Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread Code: Select all x = 22, y = 22, rule = B3/S23 8b2o$4b2o3bo$4bo2bo$6b3o6b2o$10b2obo2bo2b2o$3b2o3b2obob3o4bo$3bobobobo bo6bo$5bobo3b5o2b2o$4b2obo4bo3bobo2bo$7b2o6b2o3b2o$4b4o9bo$4bo9b4o$2o 3b2o6b2o$o2bobo3bo4bob2o$2b2o2b5o3bobo$3bo6bobobobobo$bo4b3obob2o3b2o$
b2o2bo2bob2o$5b2o6b3o$14bo2bo$12bo3b2o$12b2o!

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Bullet51 wrote:

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x = 22, y = 22, rule = B3/S23
8b2o$4b2o3bo$4bo2bo$6b3o6b2o$10b2obo2bo2b2o$3b2o3b2obob3o4bo$3bobobobo
bo6bo$5bobo3b5o2b2o$4b2obo4bo3bobo2bo$7b2o6b2o3b2o$4b4o9bo$4bo9b4o$2o
3b2o6b2o$o2bobo3bo4bob2o$2b2o2b5o3bobo$3bo6bobobobobo$bo4b3obob2o3b2o$b2o2bo2bob2o$5b2o6b3o$14bo2bo$12bo3b2o$12b2o!  Reduced: Code: Select all x = 20, y = 20, rule = B3/S23 10bo$7bo2b3o$7b3o3bo$10b2o2bo$7b2obob3o$3b2obobobo$2bobobo4b4o$bo2bob
o4bo3bob2o$bobo2b2o6b2obo$2ob3o11bo$2bo11b3ob2o$2bob2o6b2o2bobo$b2obo 3bo4bobo2bo$5b4o4bobobo$9bobobob2o$5b3obob2o$5bo2b2o$6bo3b3o$7b3o2bo$
9bo!

x₁=ηx
V ⃰_η=c²√(Λη)
K=(Λu²)/2
Pₐ=1−1/(∫^∞_t₀(p(t)ˡ⁽ᵗ⁾)dt)

$$x_1=\eta x$$
$$V^*_\eta=c^2\sqrt{\Lambda\eta}$$
$$K=\frac{\Lambda u^2}2$$
$$P_a=1-\frac1{\int^\infty_{t_0}p(t)^{l(t)}dt}$$

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Just cross-posting Paul Callahan's new p240 oscillator:

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x = 577, y = 571, rule = B3/S23
63$282b2o3b2o$282b2o2bob3o$286bo4bo$282b4ob2o2bo$282bo2bobobob2o$285bo
bobobo$286b2obobo$290bo2$276b2o$277bo7b2o$277bobo5b2o$278b2o7$288b2o$
288bo$289b3o$291bo10$267bo$267b2o$266bobo14$325bobo$326b2o$326bo38$177b2o3b2o$177b2o2bob3o$181bo4bo$177b4ob2o2bo$177bo2bobobob2o10bo9bo$
180bobobobo9b5o6b2o6b2o$181b2obobo8bo5bo4b2o7bo$185bo9bo2b4o2b3o6bobo$194b2obo2bo3b3o6b2o$171b2o21bo2b7o2b2o182bo$172bo7b2o13b2o3bo2b2o183b 3o$172bobo5b2o15bobo2b2o183bo$173b2o22bobo187b2o$194b2obo$187bo6b2ob2o$188b2o205b2ob2o$187b2o207bob2o$205b2o189bo$206bo177bobo7b3o$183b2o18b
3o177bo2bo6bo3b2o$183bo19bo179bo2bo6b4o2bo$184b3o192b2o3bo11bob2o$186b o191bobo12b3o2bo$378bo13bo5bo$377b2o14b5o$395bo3$389b2o3b2o$389b2o2bob
3o$393bo4bo$389b4ob2o2bo$389bo2bobobob2o$392bobobobo$393b2obobo$397bo
2$383b2o$384bo7b2o$384bobo5b2o$385b2o7$395b2o$395bo$396b3o$398bo6$378b 2o$379b2o$378bo5$263bo$262b2o$262bobo$128b2o$129b2o$128bo6$247bo$248b 2o$247b2o3$329bobo$329b2o106bo$330bo107b2o$437b2o2$307bo$306b3o$305b2o b2o$304b3ob3o$304b3ob3o$304b3ob3o$95bo208b3ob3o$93b5o14b2o191b2ob2o$92bo5bo13bo193b3o$92bo2b3o12bobo194bo$91b2obo15b2o$91bo2b4o$92b2o3bo3b 2o$94b3o4b2o$94bo$91b2obo$91b2ob2o3$102b2o199bo$103bo199b2o$100b3o199b
obo$100bo$265b6o$264bo6bo$263bo8bo$264bo6bo$265b6o5$318b2o$297b2o20b2o
$297b2o19bo4$296bo$295b4o24bo$294bo3b2o22b2o$135b2o157bobob2o22bobo$
134b2o158bo38b6o$136bo157bob2o34bo6bo$294bo2bo33bo8bo$295bobo6bo27bo6b o$296bo8bo27b6o$303bobo19b2o176bo$302b3o19b2o175b3o$300b3o23bo173bo$
300b2o198b2o3$508b2ob2o$509bob2o$509bo$497bo3b2o4b3o$498b2ob2o3bo3b2o$
309bobo185b2o7b4o2bo$310b2o180b2o15bob2o$296bo13bo180bobo12b3o2bo$295b 3o193bo13bo5bo$294b2ob2o191b2o14b5o$293b3ob3o208bo$293b3ob3o$255bo37b 3ob3o$253b2o38b3ob3o$254b2o38b2ob2o$295b3o$296bo32$195b2o$194b2o47bo$
196bo8bo37b2o$205b3o34bobo$208bo$207b2o$385b2o$384b2o$386bo4$217b2o$
210b2o5bobo$210b2o7bo225bo$219b2o222b2o$444b2o$206bo162bobo$205bobob2o 159b2o$205bobobobo158bo$204b2obobobo2bo$205bo2b2ob4o$205bo4bo$206b3obo
2b2o$208b2o3b2o3$208bo$206b5o14b2o$205bo5bo13bo$205bo2b3o12bobo191bo$
204b2obo15b2o192b3o$204bo2b4o189bo19bo$205b2o3bo3b2o182b3o18b2o$207b3o 4b2o181bo$207bo189b2o$204b2obo$204b2ob2o$405b2ob2o$406bob2o$215b2o189b o22b2o$216bo181b2o4b3o15b2o5bobo$213b3o182b2o3bo3b2o13b2o7bo$213bo189b
4o2bo21b2o$389b2o15bob2o$388bobo12b3o2bo9bo$388bo13bo5bo8bobob2o$387b
2o14b5o9bobobobo$405bo10b2obobobo2bo$417bo2b2ob4o$417bo4bo$418b3obo2b
2o$420b2o3b2o8$247bo$246b2o$246bobo14$365bobo$365b2o$366bo40$312bo$312b3o$307bo7bo$306b2o6b2o$306bobo6$324b2o$317b2o5bobo$317b2o7bo$326b
2o2$313bo$312bobob2o$312bobobobo$311b2obobobo2bo$312bo2b2ob4o$312bo4bo
$313b3obo2b2o$315b2o3b2o!
With the large number of reflectors that work at p240 I'm sure there's a more compact form.
-Matthias Merzenich

77topaz
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Paul Callahan already posted a more compact version himself, though I expect that was after you wrote this post:

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x = 182, y = 174, rule = B3/S23
71b2o3b2o$71b2o2bob3o$75bo4bo$71b4ob2o2bo$71bo2bobobob2o$74bobobobo$
75b2obobo$79bo2$65b2o$66bo7b2o$66bobo5b2o$67b2o5$84bo$85b2o$77b2o5b2o$77bo$78b3o$80bo6$26b2o3b2o$26b2o2bob3o$30bo4bo$26b4ob2o2bo$26bo2bobobo
b2o10bo$29bobobobo9b5o14b2o$30b2obobo8bo5bo13bo$34bo9bo2b3o12bobo$43b
2obo15b2o$20b2o21bo2b4o69bo$21bo7b2o13b2o3bo3b2o62b3o$21bobo5b2o15b3o 4b2o61bo$22b2o22bo69b2o$43b2obo$43b2ob2o$124b2ob2o$125bob2o$54b2o69bo$
55bo61b2o4b3o$32b2o18b3o62b2o3bo3b2o$32bo19bo69b4o2bo$33b3o72b2o15bob 2o$35bo71bobo12b3o2bo$107bo13bo5bo$106b2o14b5o$95b3o26bo$95bobo$95b3o$
95b3o20b2o3b2o$95b3o20b2o2bob3o$4bo90b3o24bo4bo$2b5o14b2o72bobo20b4ob 2o2bo$bo5bo13bo73b3o20bo2bobobob2o$bo2b3o12bobo99bobobobo$2obo15b2o61b
2o38b2obobo$o2b4o8bo65b2o43bo$b2o3bo3b2o2b2o67bo$3b3o4b2o2bobo95b2o$3b
o109bo7b2o$2obo109bobo5b2o$2ob2o109b2o3$11b2o78b2o$12bo52bobo22bo2bo$9b3o54b2o21bo2bo$9bo56bo21bo$88bo2bo3b2o27b2o$54bo4bo28bobo6bo26bo$52b 2ob4ob2o34b2o27b3o$54bo4bo37b2o28bo7bobo$68bo23bo43b2o$69b2o23bob2o38b
o$68b2o23b2ob2o$96b2o5$73bobo18b2o$73b2o19b2o$74bo6$54bo67bo4bo$54b3o 63b2ob4ob2o$57bo64bo4bo$56b2o$90bo81bo$88b2o80b3o$89b2o78bo$169b2o3$
66b2o109b2ob2o$59b2o5bobo109bob2o$59b2o7bo109bo$68b2o100b2o4b3o$170b2o
3bo3b2o$55bo119b4o2bo$54bobob2o101b2o15bob2o$54bobobobo99bobo12b3o2bo$
53b2obobobo2bo20b3o73bo13bo5bo$54bo2b2ob4o20bobo72b2o14b5o$54bo4bo24b
3o90bo$55b3obo2b2o20b3o$57b2o3b2o20b3o$84b3o$84bobo$57bo26b3o$55b5o14b
2o$54bo5bo13bo$54bo2b3o12bobo71bo$53b2obo9bobo3b2o72b3o$53bo2b4o5bo2bo
60bo19bo$54b2o3bo3b6o58b3o18b2o$56b3o4b2o61bo$56bo69b2o$53b2obo88bo$53b2ob2o86b2o$126bo7b2ob2o5bobo$125b2o8bob2o$64b2o56b4ob2o6bo22b2o$65b o56b2o2b2o2bob4o15b2o5bobo$62b3o56b2obo2b2o7b2o13b2o7bo$62bo59bo2bobo 2bo2b3o2bo21b2o$118b2o2bo4b2o6bob2o$117bobo12b3o2bo9bo$117bo8bo4bo5bo
8bobob2o$116b2o5bo2bo5b5o9bobobobo$123bobo8bo10b2obobobo2bo$146bo2b2ob 4o$146bo4bo$147b3obo2b2o$149b2o3b2o6$101bo$101b3o$104bo$103b2o7$113b2o$106b2o5bobo$106b2o7bo$115b2o2$102bo$101bobob2o$101bobobobo$100b2obobo
bo2bo$101bo2b2ob4o$101bo4bo$102b3obo2b2o$104b2o3b2o!


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I’d be highly surprised if this oscillator was not known, but I do want to point out that it can be made fairly easily given the blocked p4:

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x = 49, y = 12, rule = B3/S23
9b3o25bobo$38bo$8bo3bo$4bo11bo15bo3bobobo3bo$3bobo9bobo13bobo9bobo$3bo bo9bobo13bobo9bobo$2obobob7obobob2o7b2obobob7obobob2o$2obo13bob2o7b2ob o13bob2o$3bo13bo13bo13bo$3bobo4bo4bobo13bobo4bo4bobo$4b2o3bobo3b2o15b
2o3bobo3b2o$10bo27bo!  Also: I feel I posted this before, but if not: Code: Select all x = 21, y = 13, rule = B3/S23 8b2ob2o$9bobo$10bo2$4bo3bobobo3bo$3bobo9bobo$3bobo9bobo$2obobob7obobob 2o$2obo13bob2o$3bo13bo$3bobo4bo4bobo$4b2o3bobo3b2o$10bo!

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Moosey wrote:I’d be highly surprised if this oscillator was not known, but I do want to point out that it can be made fairly easily given the blocked p4:

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Blocked p4 and blocked p4 predecessor

I'm pretty sure the second one evolves into the blocked p4.
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'The fact has not created in me
A sense of obligation.'" -Stephen Crane

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x = 7, y = 5, rule = B3/S2-i3-y4i
4b3o$6bo$o3b3o$2o$bo!


Moosey
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Hdjensofjfnen wrote:
Moosey wrote:I’d be highly surprised if this oscillator was not known, but I do want to point out that it can be made fairly easily given the blocked p4:

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T-nosed p4 and blocked p4 predecessor

I'm pretty sure the second one evolves into the blocked p4.
the second one evolves into a t-nosed p4. The starting thing (except for the v spark) is already a blocked p4. (BP43 to be precise.)
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There are many known T-nosed p4 supports, most of them very similar to each other. They're not typically considered interesting unless they have some novel property. Here are three examples from jslife:

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x = 65, y = 22, rule = B3/S23
5bo24bo24bo$5bo24bo24bo$4b3o22b3o22b3o2$24b2o9b2o9b2o$24bo11bo10bo15bo
$3b5o17b11o11bobo3b5o3bo2bo$2bob3obo13b3o2b7o2b3o9b2o2bob3obo2bo2bo$2b obobobo13bo2bo2bo3bo2bo2bo13b2obob2o3bo$b2obobob2o13b2o4b3o4b2o14b3ob
3o$o2b2ob2o2bo18b3o20b2obob2o3bo$2o7b2o19bo17b2o2bob3obo2bo2bo$47bobo 3b5o3bo2bo$47bo15bo$46b2o$53b2ob2o$52bo5bo$52b7o2$54b3o$54bo2bo$56b2o! Along similar lines to your recent posts is this 11-generation 2-cell TL push with no known use: Code: Select all x = 23, y = 25, rule = B3/S23 10b3o$11bo2$4b2o3bobobo3b2o$4bobo9bobo2$5b2ob7ob2o$5bo11bo$4bobo9bobo$
8bo2bo2bo$3bo6bobo6bo$4b3ob2obob2ob3o$6b2o3bo3b2o$8b2obob2o$6bo2bobobo 2bo$2b2o3b2o2bo2b2o3b2o$2bobobobobobobobobobo$2o3b2o2bobobo2b2o3b2o$o 6b2o2bo2b2o6bo$2bobobo4bo4bobobo$b4o3b3ob3o3b4o$o4bobo2bobo2bobo4bo$b 2o2bobobo3bobobo2b2o$3bobob2o5b2obobo$3b2o13b2o! -Matthias Merzenich Moosey Posts: 3294 Joined: January 27th, 2019, 5:54 pm Location: A house, or perhaps the OCA board. Or [click to not expand] Contact: ### Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread This p8 HF hassler has to be known. Code: Select all x = 17, y = 19, rule = B3/S23 3bo$3b3o$6bo$5b2o$15b2o$15bo$8bo4bobo$7bobo3b2o$6bo3bo$6bo3bo$6bo3bo$
2b2o3bobo$bobo4bo$bo$2o$10b2o$10bo$11b3o$13bo!  It has a nice thumb: Code: Select all x = 17, y = 19, rule = B3/S23 3bo$3b3o$6bo$5b2o$15b2o$15bo$8bo4bobo$7bobo3b2o$6bo3bo$6bo3bo$6bo3bo$
2b2o3bobo4b2o$bobo4bo5b2o$bo$2o$10b2o$10bo$11b3o$13bo!  Also: Code: Select all x = 17, y = 19, rule = B3/S23 3bo$3b3o4b2o$6bo3b2o$5b2o$15b2o$15bo$8bo4bobo$7bobo3b2o$6bo3bo$6bo3bo$6bo3bo$2b2o3bobo$bobo4bo$bo$2o$10b2o$10bo$11b3o\$13bo!

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