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### Re: Soup search results

Posted: November 29th, 2014, 4:04 pm
Nothing really special about this soup producing a 13-cell still life, except it was the first soup of my run:

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``````x = 16, y = 16, rule = B3/S23
bo2bo2b2obobob2o\$6o2bob5o\$3o3bobo2bo\$9b2o2b2o\$5b5o3b2o\$2o3bob4ob3o\$2ob
o3bobo\$3ob2ob3o3b2o\$o3b3ob2o3b2o\$bo2bobobo4b3o\$bo2b3o3b2o3bo\$o2b2o2b3o
2b4o\$b2obo2bobob2ob2o\$b2o2bo2bob3obo\$3bobo3bob2o\$2obob4o3b2obo!
``````
If there's a way to get that blinker in there, it would lead to a 5-glider synthesis:

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``````x = 19, y = 10, rule = B3/S23
5bo6bobo3bo\$6b2o5b2ob2o\$5b2o6bo3b2o\$5bo\$2ob2o\$b3o12b2o\$2bo12b2o\$4bo12b
o\$4bo\$4bo!
``````
Edit: QB + loaf adds a tail to almost any still life:

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``````x = 17, y = 15, rule = B3/S23
bo\$obobo\$b2ob3o\$3bo3bo\$3bob2obo\$4bo2bobo5b2o\$5bo2bo5bobo\$6b2o5bo\$13bo
2bo\$13bo\$14bobo\$9b2o4b2o\$8bo2bo\$8bobo\$9bo!
``````

### Re: Soup search results

Posted: November 29th, 2014, 4:14 pm
A for awesome wrote:If there's a way to get that blinker in there, it would lead to a 5-glider synthesis:

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``````x = 19, y = 10, rule = B3/S23
5bo6bobo3bo\$6b2o5b2ob2o\$5b2o6bo3b2o\$5bo\$2ob2o\$b3o12b2o\$2bo12b2o\$4bo12b
o\$4bo\$4bo!
``````
One of the two-glider methods works:

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``````x = 15, y = 23, rule = B3/S23
2bo10bo\$obo9bo\$b2o9b3o11\$11b3o\$11bo\$12bo2\$6b2o\$5bobo\$7bo\$9b3o\$9bo\$10bo
!
``````

### Re: Soup search results

Posted: November 29th, 2014, 7:21 pm
Object xs28_0g8ka9m88gz122dia521 in the center:

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``````x = 15, y = 17, rule = B3/S23
10b2o\$10b2o3\$7b2o\$7b2o\$12b2o\$11bo2bo\$10b2obo\$4bobo4bo\$4bobo\$4b3o4\$2o\$
2o!
``````
Population of this pattern more than doubles from 27 to 56

From soup:

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``````x = 16, y = 16, rule = B3/S23
ob2ob2o2b3o2b2o\$2bob3ob4o3bo\$3b3o2bo6bo\$obo2bo3bob3obo\$3bob2ob3o4bo\$2o
b4o5bo\$bobob3ob3o\$b4o3bobobo2bo\$o4b3o4bo2bo\$b2ob3o2bo2b4o\$bo3bo2bo4bob
o\$ob4o2bob4o\$3o3bob3ob2obo\$3b5obo3bo\$3bo2b2o4b3o\$3b3obo3b4o!
``````
EDIT:
Fairly rare 18-bit still life:

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``````x = 40, y = 16, rule = B3/S23
bob3o2b5o\$bob7o2bob2o\$bob2ob2obo2b4o19b2ob2o\$o2b3o5b5o18bobob2o\$2bob2o
b2ob2ob2o19bobo\$3ob2o3b3o19b2obobo\$bob2obob3o2bo17b2ob2o\$ob4ob2obob3o\$
ob2obo3bo2bo\$2b2o2b4o2bo\$obo7b6o\$2bob4o3bo2b2o\$b2obobo3bo2bobo\$o2bobo
2b6o\$2o2b3o2bob2ob2o\$b5obob2o2b3o!
``````

### Re: Soup search results

Posted: November 29th, 2014, 7:43 pm
Kazyan wrote:Loaf siamese barge in "I finally got around to uncrossing the glider trajectories" form:

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``````x = 37, y = 21, rule = B3/S23
2bo\$obo\$b2o2\$9bobo\$10b2o\$10bo3\$3bobo\$4b2o8b2o\$4bo8b2o5bo\$15bo4bobo11bo
\$5b2o13b2o11bobo\$4b2o26bobobo\$6bo26bo2bo\$34b2o2\$11b3o\$13bo\$12bo!``````
Reduced to six gliders and with the loaf being made first:

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``````x = 36, y = 37, rule = B3/S23
25bo\$26bo\$24b3o9\$33b2o\$33bobo\$33bo4\$9b2o\$8bobo\$10bo22bo\$32b2o\$32bobo3\$
13b2o\$14b2o\$13bo8\$b2o\$obo\$2bo!
``````

### Re: Soup search results

Posted: November 29th, 2014, 10:52 pm
knightlife wrote:Object xs28_0g8ka9m88gz122dia521 in the center...Population of this pattern more than doubles from 27 to 56.
The starting pattern can be reduced by more than half again, to 13 cells:

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``````x = 13, y = 12, rule = B3/S23
11bo\$10bo\$10b3o2\$3bo2bo\$4b3o5\$2o\$bo!``````
No doubt variants of this pi-interruption mechanism account for many of the nearly 1000 times this still life has shown up so far in my apgsearch results (out of 36 billion objects).

### Re: Soup search results

Posted: November 30th, 2014, 12:20 am
knightlife wrote:Fairly rare 18-bit still life
This gives a 6-glider synthesis:

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``````x = 19, y = 17, rule = B3/S23
9bo\$7bobo6bobo\$8b2o6b2o\$obo14bo\$b2o9bo\$bo8b2o\$11b2o8\$3o\$2bo\$bo!``````

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``````x = 52, y = 35, rule = B3/S23
o\$b2o\$2o7\$21bobo\$21b2o\$22bo2\$21b3o\$21bo\$22bo3\$47b2ob2o\$46bobob2o\$12b2o
29bo2bobo\$12bobo24bo2bobobobo\$14bo22bobo3b2ob2o\$14b2o22b2o9\$29b3o\$29bo
\$30bo!``````
codeholic wrote:pre-pulsar + 2 TL predecessors + blinker -> smiley
Extrementhusiast wrote:Actually, eleven gliders
I suspect this could be reduced to 8 gliders by synthesizing the 2 TL predecessor combo with 3 gliders.

Edit: I've been completely unsuccessful in finding a 3-glider synthesis for the 2 TL predecessors. I'm sure there's some way to do it with fewer than 6 gliders, but I'm now skeptical that it can be done with 3.
chris_c wrote:Reduced [loaf siamese barge] to six gliders and with the loaf being made first
I would bet that those extra three cells can be added cleanly with some 3-glider collision.

### Re: Soup search results

Posted: November 30th, 2014, 2:47 am
Maybe a cheaper way of arriving at Extrementhusiast's tub test tube baby + toad combination. I think there's 3-glider collision out there for the awkward but flexible spark necessary, which would result in a 6-glider synthesis of tub test tube baby.

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``````x = 30, y = 21, rule = B3/S23
10bo\$10bo2\$8bobobo5bo\$8b5o5bo3bo\$6b2ob3ob2o3bo\$7b2obob2o6b2o\$3b2ob4ob
4ob2o\$7b2obob2o\$6b2ob3ob2o\$8b5o\$8bobobo2\$10bo\$10bo3\$o7bo7bo7bo4bo\$o2b
2o3bo3bo4bobo5bo2bo\$o7bo2bo5bo2bo4bobo\$2bo7bo10bo!
``````

### Re: Soup search results

Posted: November 30th, 2014, 2:11 pm
Kazyan wrote:which would result in a 6-glider synthesis of tub test tube baby
Definitely!

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``````x = 53, y = 37, rule = B3/S23
45bobo\$45b2o\$46bo3bo\$50bobo\$50b2o3\$35bobo\$35b2o\$36bo4\$37b3o\$31b3o5bo\$
33bo4bo\$32bo18\$3o\$2bo\$bo!
``````

### Re: Soup search results

Posted: November 30th, 2014, 4:46 pm
dvgrn wrote: The starting pattern can be reduced by more than half again, to 13 cells:
Apparently this and the double pulsar are CGOL's bling...

This 22-bit still life seems fairly rare:

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``````x = 160, y = 17, rule = B3/S23
ob2o5bobo\$o7b2o2b4o\$b2obob6o3bo136bo3b2o\$o5b5obo2bo137b2o2bo\$bo2bo4bob
2ob2o138b3o\$3bobob3obo2b2o139bo\$3bo3b2o2bob2o134bo\$o3bo2b2o2bo3bo132bo
bo\$2b2o6b3obo133bobo6bo\$2bo3b3o2bo2bo134bo6b3o\$5o6b2ob2o139b2ob2o\$3b2o
bo3b3obo141b3o\$b3ob2o4b4o142bo\$4ob2o2bo3b2o\$b2obo2bob3obo\$bob3o3bob3o
142b2o\$156b2o!
``````
Don't know if this helps with synthesis. I vaguely remember there is a simple synthesis for it.

### Re: Soup search results

Posted: November 30th, 2014, 5:13 pm
knightlife wrote:This 22-bit still life seems fairly rare
Actually this specific is VERY common, I'm not sure exactly why. Here is G + 5SL synth:

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``````x = 52, y = 31, rule = B3/S23
6\$17bobo\$17b2o13bo\$18bo12bobo\$31bobo\$32bo2\$27b2o7b2o\$26bo2bo5bo2bo\$27b
2o7b2o2\$13bo18bo\$12bobo16bobo\$13b2o16bobo\$32bo!
``````
And another predecessor:

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``````x = 12, y = 21, rule = B3/S23
4\$4bo\$4b2o\$4b3o\$6b2o\$5b2o3\$8bo\$7b3o\$6b2ob2o\$7b3o\$8bo3\$7b2o\$7b2o!
``````

### Re: Soup search results

Posted: November 30th, 2014, 11:50 pm
Here's a 5-glider synthesis and three 6-glider syntheses:

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``````x = 129, y = 82, rule = B3/S23
30bobo\$30b2o\$31bo2\$5b2o\$5bobo\$b2o2bo\$obo8bo\$2bo8bobo\$11b2o10\$27b2o\$27b
obo\$27bo25\$128bo\$126b2o\$127b2o\$107bo\$108b2o\$36bo70b2o\$34b2o\$35b2o2\$68b
o\$17bobo46bobo\$18b2o5bo41b2o4b3o\$18bo6bobo25bo19bo36bo\$25b2o24bobo20bo
35bobo\$52b2o56b2o\$104bo\$16bo88bo\$15b2o86b3o\$15bobo52b2o\$69b2o\$13b2o56b
o\$12bobo\$14bo98b2o\$112b2o\$56b2o56bo\$55bobo\$57bo2\$47b2o\$46bobo\$48bo53b
3o\$104bo\$103bo\$15b2o\$15bobo\$15bo!``````
The last 6-glider synthesis is based on a previously-known 4-glider synthesis.

Here are a number of object predecessors that can obviously be turned into syntheses, but I haven't yet tried to optimize them:

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``````x = 618, y = 49, rule = B3/S23
271bobo\$272b2o\$272bo2\$356bo\$354bobo\$355b2o\$396bo\$395bo\$395b3o\$99b2o\$
99b2o43b2obo88b2o\$144bo2bo88b2o217b2o\$3b3o139b3o46b2ob3o255b2o\$192b2ob
2ob2o\$8bo28bo64b2o93b3o\$8bobo26bo38b2o23bo2bo86bo3b2o\$b3o4b2o27bo4b3o
31b2o24b2o37b3o2bo\$o2bo38b3o101bo103bo64bo126bobo\$o3b2o37bo32b2o68bo
102bobo63bobo124bobo103b2o\$2o3bo65b2o3b2o24bobo143bo2bo63b2o125b3o56b
2o45b2o57bo\$2bo2bo64bo2bo28bobo3bobo31b3o3b3o98b2o250b2o104bo\$2b3o3b2o
59b6o3bo23b3o2bo2bo73b2o421bo\$7b2o31b3o27bo2bo33bo3bo34bo38b2o364b3o\$
9bo33bo27b2o34bo2bo35bo37bo51b3o10bo245b2o53bo3bo4b2o49b2o\$42bo65bobo
35bo88bo2bo9bobo119bobo122b2o3bo48bo5bo3b2o49b2o\$234bo2bo10bobo119b2o
127bobo48bo3bo\$235b2o12bo121bo63bo62bo2bo49b3o\$315b3o116bobo62b2o\$434b
obo166b3o3b2o\$313bo5bo54b2o59bo50bo16bo101bo3bobo\$308bo4bo5bo47b2o4bo
2bo109bo14bobo46b2o52bo4bo\$308bo4bo5bo47b2o5b2o110bo14b3o45b2o\$308bo
192bo49bo43b3o\$315b3o279bo\$304b3o3b3o283bo2\$308bo\$308bo\$308bo2\$182bobo
\$183b2o\$183bo431b3o\$615bo\$194b2ob3o416bo\$192b2ob2ob2o\$197b3o\$191bo3b2o
!``````
Here are some object predecessors that might also lead to syntheses:

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``````x = 442, y = 153, rule = B3/S23
167bo\$168bo\$166b3o7\$107bobo\$108b2o\$13b2o56b2o35bo\$9b2obobo26bo\$11b2o
29bo27bo255b2o91bo\$10bo3bo26bo28b2o222bo30bo2b2o60b2ob2o18b2o4bo15bo4b
2o\$10b2o25b2o2bo29bo71bo3bo70bo73b3o3b2o24b3o2bo60b2obobo17b2o3bo15b3o
3bo\$37b6o28b2o71bo2bo69bo22b2o56b2o24bo4bo58bo3b2obo20b2o17b3o2bo\$36bo
4bo29b3o68b3o4b3o65b3o19bo4bo19bo2bo5b2o16bo32b5o25bo62b3o15b3o\$78bo
71b2o88b2o2bo19bob2o5bo21b3o27b2o3bo24bo4bo24b2o\$79b2ob2o21b2o41bob2o
33bo55b2o22bo7b2o20bo33bo2bo18bo3bo3bo25b2o2b2o\$8b3o65b2ob2ob2o21bobo
40b2o30b2o2bo28bo24bo32bo58bo20bo3bo2b2o25b2o2b2o\$8bo38b2o24b2o3bo3bo
24bo34b3o34bo3b2obo25bobo23bo32bobo57bo20b2o5b2o\$9bo36b2o25b2o4b3o25bo
36bo35b2o2b3o24bo3bo22bo32bo\$5b2o41bo31b3o23bo36bo72bo\$6b2o97bo108b3o\$
5bo98bo\$113bo\$111bo2bo\$111b3o\$111b3o8\$213bo\$212bo\$212b3o4\$215b2o\$214b
2obo\$216bo\$218b2o\$218b2o\$214bobob2obo\$215bo2bo3b2o\$215b2o62\$300b3o\$
299b4o\$2bo295bo3bo21bo\$obo294b2ob2o23b2o\$b2o258bo36bob2o22b2o110bo\$8bo
252bobo93bo37bo36b5o\$7bo135bo117b2o93bobo34b3o40bo\$7b3o99bo34bo210bo2b
o33b2o3b2o36bo\$42b2o40b2o23bob3o28b3o59bo151b2o10b2o23b2o2bobo\$11b2o
28bo41b2obo24b3o90b3o93b3o65b2o27bo\$10bobo30bo41bo214b3o31bo55b2o39b2o
\$9b2o30bo2bo2b2o252bo30b2o23b2o4b2o24bo2bo39b2o\$10bobo4b2o19b3ob3o41b
2o115bo129b2o21bobo4b2obo22bobo39bo\$11b2o3bo2bo19bo5b2o31b3o5b2o23b2o
83b3o3bobo152bo3b3o2bo23bo\$16bo23bo2bo34bo2bo29bobo84bo2bo2bo41bobo
116bo66b2o\$14b2o2b2o20bo38b3o28bo3bo81b3o3b2o33bo8bo185bobo\$13bo67b2o
30bo36b2o3bobo78bobo7bo5bo179bo\$13bo2bo33b2o29b3o27b2o38bo3bo80b2o9bo
3bo84bo90b2o\$14bobo33bobo96b3o2bo3bo89b3o84b2o91b2o\$50bo59bo44bo2bo
167b2o4b3o92bo\$155b3o168b2o6bo\$333b3o7\$42b2o\$41b4o\$41b2ob2o\$43b3o2\$40b
o\$40b3o3b3o\$48bo\$45bo2bo\$46b2o\$55b2o\$54b2o\$56bo!``````

### Re: Soup search results

Posted: December 1st, 2014, 12:58 am
A partially-asymmetrical 30-cell still life comes out of this:

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``````x = 16, y = 16, rule = B3/S23
bo3bobo5b2o\$4bo3bo2bo2bo\$obo2bobo2bobo2bo\$5o3bobo\$4obo2b4o3bo\$2b4o7bob
o\$b2ob2ob2ob2obobo\$bob2o2bobo5bo\$2ob5o3b2o\$ob2ob2o2bo2bo\$4bobob2o3b3o\$
b4o3bo\$ob5ob2o2b2obo\$b2o2b8o\$bo3b3o2bo2b3o\$bo3bobobo3b2o!
``````
Sokwe wrote:Here are some object predecessors that might also lead to syntheses:
That jam predecessor keeps showing up in my searches, and it's pretty much taunting me. There's a synthesis in there somewhere, but neither half of the collision seems to have a cheap creation or substitution.

### Re: Soup search results

Posted: December 1st, 2014, 3:45 am
Here are some soups with 90degree turn symmtry with oscilators: p30(qb), Achim's p16, Gabriel's p138.

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``````x = 311, y = 152, rule = B3/S23
o2b2ob2obobo2b2obo2b2o8bo29bobob3ob2o3b3ob2o2b2o4bob2o189bo3b2o3b7o3b
3o4b3obo\$2b2ob2obobo4bob2obo5b3o31bo2bo2bob4o2bobobobobobo3bo193b3ob2o
b2o3b2obo4bob2o2bo\$b3o4bobobo2b3obob3ob2ob2o31bo2bo2bobobo3b2obo2b2o3b
2o2bo189b2obobo3b3obobo2b4obob3obo\$bob4ob2obo2b2obo2bob3o2b4o29bobo6bo
b2o2bo4b2o7bo190bobob4ob2o3b2ob4o2b4ob2o\$b2o4bobobobo2bo2b2o2b2o2bo2bo
31bobo2b3o2bo2b4o3bo2b2obobo189bob4obob5ob2o5bob4ob2o\$2bo2b2ob2obobob
3o3bo3bobobo34bobob2ob2o3b3o2b2obo5bo190b4ob5o3b2ob3o2bo3b3obo\$3b2obo
4bobo2bobo2b2ob2obob2o30bo3bo4bob2ob4ob2o3bo3b2o190bob2obo2b7o2bob3ob
2obobo\$2b3o3b2o2bob4obobo4bo3bo36b2o5b3obob2obo2bobo193b2o3bo3bob3obo
4b2ob3obo\$2b2o2bo6b6o4bobob3o30b3ob2o4b3o2b2o2b2o2bob2o2b2o190bo2b5o4b
3o2b5o2bo\$obo2b3ob5obobo3bobob3o2bo29bob2ob3o2b2obobo9b6o189bobo3bob2o
8b2obo2b7o\$2ob2o5b9ob2o6b2o31bobo2b3o3b3o4bob2obo4bo190bob2o2bobobobob
2ob2obo3b7o\$2bobo2bo3b3ob7o2b4o2bo37bob2ob2obob2ob2o2bob3o190bob2obo2b
2ob5o3bo3b2obobobo\$bo4bobob2obo3bob3obo4bo31b3ob4o3bobob3o2bobob4o194b
2ob2ob3o2bo2bo2b2o3bobo3bo\$4obob6o2bo2b5ob3o33bo3b3o5bobobob4o2bo5bo
190bobobobo2bo2b3ob3o2b3obobobo\$2bob5ob2o3bo4bob2o3bo2bo30b2ob5o2b3o3b
ob2o2bo5b2o193bo7bobob2ob2ob4obob2o\$4obob5ob2ob2ob5obob4o29bob3ob4o2bo
5bo2b4ob3obo189b9ob2obo3bob2ob9o\$o2bo3b2obo4bo3b2ob5obo31b2o5bo2b2obo
3b3o2b5ob2o190b2obob4ob2ob2obobo7bo\$4b3ob5o2bo2b6obob4o29bo5bo2b4obobo
bo5b3o3bo189bobobob3o2b3ob3o2bo2bobobobo\$2bo4bob3obo3bob2obobo4bo33b4o
bobo2b3obobo3b4ob3o189bo3bobo3b2o2bo2bo2b3ob2ob2o\$o2b4o2b7ob3o3bo2bobo
32b3obo2b2ob2obob2ob2obo197bobobob2o3bo3b5ob2o2bob2obo\$b2o6b2ob9o5b2ob
2o30bo4bob2obo4b3o3b3o2bobo190b7o3bob2ob2obobobobo2b2obo\$o2b3obobo3bob
ob5ob3o2bobo29b6o9bobob2o2b3ob2obo189b7o2bob2o8b2obo3bobo\$b3obobo4b6o
6bo2b2o31b2o2b2obo2b2o2b2o2b3o4b2ob3o194bo2b5o2b3o4b5o2bo\$o3bo4bobob4o
bo2b2o3b3o33bobo2bob2obob3o5b2o197bob3ob2o4bob3obo3bo3b2o\$2obob2ob2o2b
obo2bobo4bob2o32b2o3bo3b2ob4ob2obo4bo3bo191bobob2ob3obo2b7o2bob2obo\$bo
bobo3bo3b3obobob2ob2o2bo31bo5bob2o2b3o3b2ob2obobo193bob3o3bo2b3ob2o3b
5ob4o\$o2bo2b2o2b2o2bo2bobobobo4b2o30bobob2o2bo3b4o2bo2b3o2bobo191b2ob
4obo5b2ob5obob4obo\$4o2b3obo2bob2o2bob2ob4obo31bo7b2o4bo2b2obo6bobo190b
2ob4o2b4ob2o3b2ob4obobo\$b2ob2ob3obob3o2bobobo4b3o30bo2b2o3b2o2bob2o3bo
bobo2bo2bo191bob3obob4o2bobob3o3bobob2o\$2b3o5bob2obo4bobob2ob2o33bo3bo
bobobobobo2b4obo2bo2bo191bo2b2obo4bob2o3b2ob2ob3o\$o8b2o2bob2o2bobob2ob
2o2bo29b2obo4b2o2b2ob3o3b2ob3obobo189bob3o4b3o3b7o3b2o3bo30\$2ob2o3b4o
2bob3o4bo3b2o2bo29b2obobo3bobob2ob2o2bob2ob2obo\$2bobob2ob3ob5o2bobob3o
4bo28bob8o2b4o3bo4b2o4bo\$5bo3b3ob2o3b2o4bobobobo32bo3b2obo3b3o2bobo3bo
3b2o\$ob3obo2bobob2o4b3ob2obobo2bo28bo2bo3bob2o2b4ob5obo2b3o\$o3b2o10b2o
7bob2ob2o28bo3b2o2b3o2bobob2o2bo4bo2b2o\$b3o2bobob2obo2bobob6obobo31b2o
4bobo5b2o3bobobobo2bo\$bo2b3o2bo2bob3o3b4ob2obobo29b2obobob2ob4ob2o3b4o
5b2o\$b3obob5ob2o2b2o2bob2o5bo29bo5bob3ob4ob2o2b2ob2ob3o\$o2bob4ob5ob2ob
o3b2obo4bo31bob4ob2o2bo2b4ob3obob2o\$bo3b2o2bob3o3bo2bobob2o2b4o28bob3o
b2ob2obob3o2b3obob3obo\$3bob3o6bobob3o2b2obo2b3o31bob2ob3o3bobobob5ob3o
bo\$bobob2o2b6obo3bob3obob4o29b3o4b2ob2o2b3obo2bobo\$2b2o4bobob2o3bob2ob
2obo34bo2b2o2b2obobo2b2ob2obob2o4b2o\$obo2bobo2bo3b2obob2ob3obob3o29bo
3bo2b2o2bob3obo5b2ob2obo\$2o2bo2b3o2b2o4bob2ob3o2b4o30b2ob2o2b4obob2o2b
4o3b4o\$2o2b3obob2o3b2obo6bo4bo29b8obob3obob3obob8o\$bo4bo6bob2o3b2obob
3o2b2o28b4o3b4o2b2obob4o2b2ob2o\$4o2b3ob2obo4b2o2b3o2bo2b2o29bob2ob2o5b
ob3obo2b2o2bo3bo\$b3obob3ob2obob2o3bo2bobo2bobo28b2o4b2obob2ob2o2bobob
2o2b2o2bo\$6bob2ob2obo3b2obobo4b2o36bobo2bob3o2b2ob2o4b3o\$4obob3obo3bob
6o2b2obobo29bob3ob5obobobo3b3ob2obo\$3o2bob2o2b3obobo6b3obo32bob3obob3o
2b3obob2ob2ob3obo\$4o2b2obobo2bo3b3obo2b2o3bo30b2obob3ob4o2bo2b2ob4obo\$
o4bob2o3bob2ob5ob4obo2bo29b3ob2ob2o2b2ob4ob3obo5bo\$bo5b2obo2b2o2b2ob5o
bob3o29b2o5b4o3b2ob4ob2obobob2o\$bobob2ob4o3b3obo2bo2b3o2bo30bo2bobobob
o3b2o5bobo4b2o\$2bobob6obobo2bob2obobo2b3o29b2o2bo4bo2b2obobo2b3o2b2o3b
o\$2ob2obo7b2o10b2o3bo29b3o2bob5ob4o2b2obo3bo2bo\$o2bobob2ob3o4b2obobo2b
ob3obo28b2o3bo3bobo2b3o3bob2o3bo\$bobobobo4b2o3b2ob3o3bo33bo4b2o4bo3b4o
2b8obo\$o4b3obobo2b5ob3ob2obobo31bob2ob2obo2b2ob2obobo3bobob2o\$o2b2o3bo
4b3obo2b4o3b2ob2o29\$5obob2o3bobo3bob2o2b7o29b3ob2ob2o2b3ob2o2bobobo2b
2o\$5ob3ob3ob2obob2o4bobob3o29bo3bobobobo3bo2b6ob2o2b3o\$2o2bob3obo2bob
3ob3ob3obo2b2o29b2obob6o3bo3bo2bo2b3obobo\$o3bo2b5ob2o3b3ob3ob2o2b2o28b
o3bo2bob3ob4o3b4obo5bo\$6ob2ob3o2b4o2b4o2b5o28bobob2ob2o2b2ob3o4b2obob
4o\$o2bobob5o2b2obob2o5b2o33b2ob2o2b2ob6ob3ob3ob2o2b2o\$3o3b3o3bo5bo2bo
3bo3b3o29b3o3bo9b2obob2o5bobo\$2b3o2bo4bo2bobo5b8o29bo3b2obo2b3o3bobob
2o2b2ob4o\$2b3o2b2ob2obob2ob6ob7o29bobob2o2bob2o3b3obobo3b2obobo\$o2b2o
3bob5o2b4o5bobo2bo28b7ob2obobobo2b3ob2o2bob4o\$obobobobob3obo3bo2b3o2b
5o30bob2o2bo7bobobo4bo3b2o\$b3obo2b2obo3b2o2b5o2b3obo29b2obob5obobo4b3o
b3ob5o\$4obo2b2ob3o3b3ob2ob2obo2bo30b2o2bo3b3obob4o4b2ob2o3bo\$3b2obob3o
bob2o3bo2b2o4b2obo29bo3b5ob2ob4ob2obo3bobo2bo\$b2ob2obobo2bo5bo2b2o3bob
obo29bo5bobobob3o2b2o7b3o2bo\$2bobo3bo2bo3b2obobo2b2ob2ob3o28bo2b3ob2o
3b2ob2ob2ob2o3b5o\$3ob2ob2o2bobob2o3bo2bo3bobo31b5o3b2ob2ob2ob2o3b2ob3o
2bo\$bobobo3b2o2bo5bo2bobob2ob2o29bo2b3o7b2o2b3obobobo5bo\$ob2o4b2o2bo3b
2obob3obob2o31bo2bobo3bob2ob4ob2ob5o3bo\$bo2bob2ob2ob3o3b3ob2o2bob4o28b
o3b2ob2o4b4obob3o3bo2b2o\$bob3o2b5o2b2o3bob2o2bob3o30b5ob3ob3o4bobob5ob
ob2o\$b5o2b3o2bo3bob3obobobobobo30b2o3bo4bobobo7bo2b2obo\$o2bobo5b4o2b5o
bo3b2o2bo28b4obo2b2ob3o2bobobob2ob7o\$7ob6ob2obob2ob2o2b3o30bobob2o3bob
ob3o3b2obo2b2obobo\$b8o5bobo2bo4bo2b3o31b4ob2o2b2obobo3b3o2bob2o3bo\$3o
3bo3bo2bo5bo3b3o3b3o28bobo5b2obob2o9bo3b3o\$4b2o5b2obob2o2b5obobo2bo28b
2o2b2ob3ob3ob6ob2o2b2ob2o\$5o2b4o2b4o2b3ob2ob6o30b4obob2o4b3ob2o2b2ob2o
bobo\$2o2b2ob3ob3o3b2ob5o2bo3bo28bo5bob4o3b4ob3obo2bo3bo\$2o2bob3ob3ob3o
bo2bob3obo2b2o28bobob3o2bo2bo3bo3b6obob2o\$3obobo4b2obob2ob3ob3ob5o28b
3o2b2ob6o2bo3bobobobo3bo\$7o2b2obo3bobo3b2obob5o31b2o2bobobo2b2ob3o2b2o
b2ob3o!
``````

### Re: Soup search results

Posted: December 1st, 2014, 6:16 am
This synth might be optimized further:

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``````x = 34, y = 29, rule = B3/S23
7\$5b3o3\$11b2o\$10bo2bo5b2o\$11b2o6b2o2\$16bo\$15bobo\$15bobo\$16bo4bo\$20bobo
\$19bo3bo\$20bobo\$21bo!
``````

### Re: Soup search results

Posted: December 2nd, 2014, 5:25 am
Not pretty sure if this was synthesizable before, but it looks pretty good... If you need two of them... 22P4.3

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``````x = 32, y = 32, rule = B3/S23
ob3obobo3bo2b2o2bo3bobob3obo\$bobobob3o2b2o4b2o2b3obobobo\$2bob2ob8o2b8o
b2obo\$bob3o2b2o4bo2bo4b2o2b3obo\$2o2bobo5bo6bo5bobo2b2o\$2bo5bo2b3o4b3o
2bo5bo\$bobobobob3o2bo2bo2b3obobobobo\$b8ob5o2b5ob8o\$bo4b3obo2bob2obo2bo
b3o4bo\$b3ob2obobo3b4o3bobob2ob3o\$ob2obobobob2obo2bob2obobobob2obo\$2obo
bobo2bo2bo4bo2bo2bobobob2o\$2bo3bobob2obo4bob2obobo3bo\$2b3ob8o4b8ob3o\$o
2bo2bob4obo4bob4obo2bo2bo\$7o4b2obo2bob2o4b7o\$7o4b2obo2bob2o4b7o\$o2bo2b
ob4obo4bob4obo2bo2bo\$2b3ob8o4b8ob3o\$2bo3bobob2obo4bob2obobo3bo\$2obobob
o2bo2bo4bo2bo2bobobob2o\$ob2obobobob2obo2bob2obobobob2obo\$b3ob2obobo3b
4o3bobob2ob3o\$bo4b3obo2bob2obo2bob3o4bo\$b8ob5o2b5ob8o\$bobobobob3o2bo2b
o2b3obobobobo\$2bo5bo2b3o4b3o2bo5bo\$2o2bobo5bo6bo5bobo2b2o\$bob3o2b2o4bo
2bo4b2o2b3obo\$2bob2ob8o2b8ob2obo\$bobobob3o2b2o4b2o2b3obobobo\$ob3obobo
3bo2b2o2bo3bobob3obo!``````

### Re: Soup search results

Posted: December 4th, 2014, 4:09 am
Scorbie, that soup replicates the actual existing synthesis for 22P4.3. Weird.

Anyway, this is an odd still life--ship on a table on another table. Easy synthesis.

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``````x = 21, y = 27, rule = B3/S23
9bo\$8bo\$8b3o8\$2b3o\$bo2bo\$bo3bo\$2obobo4bo\$2ob2o4bobo\$b3o5bobo\$9b2o3\$8bo
\$7bobo\$7bobo8b2o\$8bo9bobo\$18bo\$7b2o\$6bobo\$8bo!``````

### Re: Soup search results

Posted: December 5th, 2014, 1:37 am
Kazyan wrote:Scorbie, that soup replicates the actual existing synthesis for 22P4.3. Weird.
Ohh, I see~ (Well, I didn't look thoroughly in "Syntesizing oscillators" thread... by the way there was an existing eater 2 synth in that thread... I think we should make an archive for glider synthesis or something.)
Well, keep an eye on OVERSIZED soups because... some of you guys may find something like this:

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``````x = 517, y = 353, rule = B3/S23
489b2o2b2o2bobo3bobo2b2o2b2o\$486b7obo3bo2bo2bo3bob7o\$487b2o2b3o2b2o2b
3o2b2o2b3o2b2o\$486b2o2b2o5bo7bo5b2o2b2o\$486bo3bo2b5o2b3o2b5o2bo3bo\$bo
4b4o2bo5bo2b4o4bo457bo4b5o2bo3bo2b5o4bo\$4b2obo2b2obo3bob2o2bob2o459b2o
2b2obob5obob5obob2o2b2o\$4bobobo2b2o2bo2b2o2bobobo462bobo3bo3b5o3bo3bob
o\$2b4ob4o2bobobo2b4ob4o462b3o6b3o6b3o\$4obo2b2o2bo2bo2bo2b2o2bob4o456bo
2bo4b13o4bo2bo\$ob2o2bobo2b4ob4o2bobo2b2obo455bob5o2b2ob2o3b2ob2o2b5obo
\$o4bobobob2obobob2obobobo4bo456b2o2b6o2bobobo2b6o2b2o\$ob2obo3b2o2b5o2b
2o3bob2obo457bo3bob2o3bobobo3b2obo3bo\$2bo2b3o2bobob3obobo2b3o2bo457b2o
4bo3b2obo3bob2o3bo4b2o\$3b2obo4b2ob3ob2o4bob2o459bobobobobo3b2ob2o3bobo
bobobo\$2ob7obobobobobob7ob2o455b2o2bob2o2b4o3b4o2b2obo2b2o\$2o3b5o11b5o
3b2o456bobobobobo3b2ob2o3bobobobobo\$5ob2o3bobobobobo3b2ob5o455b2o4bo3b
2obo3bob2o3bo4b2o\$4b8obobobob8o461bo3bob2o3bobobo3b2obo3bo\$ob2obo5b2ob
3ob2o5bob2obo456b2o2b6o2bobobo2b6o2b2o\$6b2o3bo2bobo2bo3b2o461bob5o2b2o
b2o3b2ob2o2b5obo\$ob2obo5b2ob3ob2o5bob2obo456bo2bo4b13o4bo2bo\$4b8obobob
ob8o464b3o6b3o6b3o\$5ob2o3bobobobobo3b2ob5o458bobo3bo3b5o3bo3bobo\$2o3b
5o11b5o3b2o455b2o2b2obob5obob5obob2o2b2o\$2ob7obobobobobob7ob2o456bo4b
5o2bo3bo2b5o4bo\$3b2obo4b2ob3ob2o4bob2o458bo3bo2b5o2b3o2b5o2bo3bo\$2bo2b
3o2bobob3obobo2b3o2bo457b2o2b2o5bo7bo5b2o2b2o\$ob2obo3b2o2b5o2b2o3bob2o
bo456b2o2b3o2b2o2b3o2b2o2b3o2b2o\$o4bobobob2obobob2obobobo4bo455b7obo3b
o2bo2bo3bob7o\$ob2o2bobo2b4ob4o2bobo2b2obo458b2o2b2o2bobo3bobo2b2o2b2o\$
4obo2b2o2bo2bo2bo2b2o2bob4o\$2b4ob4o2bobobo2b4ob4o\$4bobobo2b2o2bo2b2o2b
obobo\$4b2obo2b2obo3bob2o2bob2o\$bo4b4o2bo5bo2b4o4bo287\$8bob3o3b2ob4ob4o
b2o3b3obo\$8b5obobob3o5b3obobob5o\$10bo3bo2b3o7b3o2bo3bo\$8b2ob4o2b2obob
3obob2o2b4ob2o\$8bo2bobob4o2b2ob2o2b4obobo2bo\$8b3obo3b2o3bobobo3b2o3bob
3o\$10bo3bobobo2bobobo2bobobo3bo\$9b6o3b11o3b6o\$8b2o3b2o2bobobobobobobo
2b2o3b2o\$10b2o2bob4ob2ob2ob4obo2b2o\$8b3o4b3ob4ob4ob3o4b3o\$9b2o2b2obob
2ob2ob2ob2obob2o2b2o\$9bo3bo2bobob3ob3obobo2bo3bo\$10b3o3b2o3bo3bo3b2o3b
3o\$8bo2b2obo2bobob2ob2obobo2bob2o2bo\$11b4ob3o2b2ob2o2b3ob4o\$8bo2b2obo
2bobob2ob2obobo2bob2o2bo\$10b3o3b2o3bo3bo3b2o3b3o\$9bo3bo2bobob3ob3obobo
2bo3bo\$9b2o2b2obob2ob2ob2ob2obob2o2b2o\$8b3o4b3ob4ob4ob3o4b3o\$10b2o2bob
4ob2ob2ob4obo2b2o\$8b2o3b2o2bobobobobobobo2b2o3b2o\$9b6o3b11o3b6o\$10bo3b
obobo2bobobo2bobobo3bo\$8b3obo3b2o3bobobo3b2o3bob3o\$8bo2bobob4o2b2ob2o
2b4obobo2bo\$8b2ob4o2b2obob3obob2o2b4ob2o\$10bo3bo2b3o7b3o2bo3bo\$8b5obob
ob3o5b3obobob5o\$8bob3o3b2ob4ob4ob2o3b3obo!
``````
They're not that uncommon; These three were found in about 5 million soups.

### Re: Soup search results

Posted: December 5th, 2014, 8:19 am
Two of those three soups have the same mechanism and almost identical outputs:

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``````x = 29, y = 21, rule = B3/S23
bo25bo\$obo23bobo\$b2o23b2o\$b2o23b2o2\$2b2o21b2o\$2b2o21b2o8\$2b2o21b2o\$2b
2o21b2o2\$b2o23b2o\$b2o23b2o\$obo23bobo\$bo25bo!``````
As for an archive for glider syntheses, I have a few days to work on catagolue uninterrupted.

### Re: Soup search results

Posted: December 5th, 2014, 11:28 pm
Apparently there's a way to convert a ship-tie into a tripole as it forms.

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``````x = 16, y = 16, rule = B3/S23
bo2b2o2bob2o\$o2b2obo2bobo3bo\$bo3bob3o3b3o\$obobo2bo3bob2o\$7b2ob2obobo\$
5o2b2o6bo\$b6o2bo2b2obo\$4o3bobo2b3o\$2o3b2obob3o\$2ob2ob2ob2ob4o\$3b2o2bo
2bobobo\$6b3o2b5o\$b4o3b2o3bobo\$2b6o\$obobob3ob2obobo\$bo2b2obo2bo!``````

### Re: Soup search results

Posted: December 6th, 2014, 7:25 pm
21-cell still life that apparently hasn't been found before:

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``````x = 16, y = 16, rule = B3/S23
b2ob2obo2b2ob2o\$3b4o2b2ob2obo\$2bo2bo4b3o\$ob5o2b3obo\$o2bo2b4ob2o\$5obo3b
obo\$bobobob2o3b2o\$b3o2b2o4b4o\$2bobob7ob2o\$bob2o2b4ob4o\$o3bo6bo\$2o2bob
2o3b5o\$bo2b5o2bo2b2o\$2ob2obo2b2o\$b6obob3obo\$5ob5obob2o!
``````
Looks fairly synthesis-friendly; with luck, 7 gliders.

### Re: Soup search results

Posted: December 7th, 2014, 6:13 pm
Probably pointless cis-beacon on dock synth:

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``````x = 18, y = 21, rule = B3/S23
6bo\$3o2bo\$5b3o2\$3b2o\$3bobo\$4bo3\$4bo\$3bobo10b2o\$3bobo10b2o\$4bo6\$9bo\$8bo
bo\$9bo!
``````

### Re: Soup search results

Posted: December 10th, 2014, 4:32 am
Maybe that elusive 6-glider jam synthesis I've been looking for can come out of this? TL + complex active region = jam, cleanly. I have a dim hope that the active region can be made in 4 gliders.

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``````x = 16, y = 13, rule = B3/S23
11b3o\$12b2o\$11b3o\$11bo\$4bo\$4bo6b2o\$4bo7bobo\$15bo\$3o3b3o4bobo\$14bo\$4bo\$
4bo\$4bo!``````
The most promising generation (there's a B heptomino motif)

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``````x = 14, y = 13, rule = B3/S23
11b2o\$11bobo\$13bo\$10b3o\$9b3o\$8b2o\$2b3o4b2o2\$o5bo\$o5bo\$o5bo2\$2b3o!
``````

### Re: Soup search results

Posted: December 10th, 2014, 4:54 pm
Very clean blocker predecessor, looks like 8 gliders at most:

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``````x = 5, y = 12, rule = B3/S23
b2o\$b2o3\$3o\$3o2\$3bo\$2b2o\$2bobo2\$4bo!
``````
Unusual 21-bit still life:

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``````x = 16, y = 16, rule = B3/S23
3obob2o5b3o\$2o3b5o2b2o\$4bob4o2b2obo\$3bobo2bo2bo2bo\$o4b3obob2obo\$ob8o5b
o\$2bo6b4ob2o\$b2ob3o4bo2b2o\$2ob3o2bo3bobo\$2obob2obo4bobo\$2bob2ob3o\$b2ob
5o2b2o2bo\$2b2o3bobo3bo\$bo6b3o3b2o\$4obob3o4b2o\$2bo3bobo2b2ob2o!
``````
20-bit still life, 7 or 8 gliders, I think:

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``````x = 8, y = 12, rule = B3/S23
5b2o\$4bo2bo\$5b2o\$b3o2\$o3bo\$o3bo2\$b3o\$5b2o\$4bo2bo\$4bo2bo!
``````
Trans-beacon on dock:

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``````x = 16, y = 16, rule = B3/S23
2b2obob2o2b3o\$ob4ob4o\$obo5bobo2b2o\$2bo3b2o3bobobo\$2obo7b2o2bo\$2b4ob2ob
2ob3o\$obob3obo2bob2o\$2bo3b2ob2o3b2o\$b2ob3ob2obo\$b5o2bo3bo2bo\$2b2o3b2ob
2obo\$b3o4bobo\$bobo6b5o\$ob5o3bobo2bo\$obo2bob7obo\$2obo2bob3o3bo!
``````
Tripole:

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``````x = 16, y = 16, rule = B3/S23
o3b5obo3b2o\$obo3b4obo3bo\$ob2obo3bo4b2o\$3o2b2o2bo3b2o\$4bobo2b2o4bo\$3b2o
2bo2b3o2bo\$2bobobo3b2ob2o\$2bob2o3bob2ob2o\$b2ob4o5b3o\$3bob2obobob2obo\$
3o12bo\$o2bo5b2obob2o\$ob5ob2o3b3o\$bobobo2b4o2bo\$bob7o4bo\$bob2ob3ob2o3bo
!
``````

### Re: Soup search results

Posted: December 11th, 2014, 9:43 pm
This soup generates only a 12-bit SL:

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``````x = 16, y = 16, rule = B3/S23
2b5ob2ob3obo\$bo7bob2obo\$o4b2o2bo2bobo\$o3bo3b2o\$2bobo4bobobo\$bo3b2obo3b
2obo\$bo2b2o4bo3bo\$o2bob2o3bobo\$4b4o5bobo\$2bobo2b4o3bo\$o5b10o\$ob2o2bo2b
3ob3o\$5o3b2o2b2o\$2ob3ob2ob3o2bo\$bobob4o3bobo\$4o2bob2ob3o!
``````

### Re: Soup search results

Posted: December 13th, 2014, 1:15 am
It occurred to me that a glider collision search could improve my 1 beacon synthesis--maybe down to 5 gliders--since it's simply applying blocks around a ship:

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``````x = 72, y = 17, rule = B3/S23
42bobo\$43b2o\$43bo6bo\$48b2o\$49b2o\$67b2o\$67b2o\$69b2o\$25b2o18b2o4bobo11b
5obo\$5b2o18bobo17bobo3b2o12bo5bo\$3ob2o20b2o18b2o4bo13bob3o\$2bo3bo60b2o
\$bo50b3o\$54bo\$2b2o49bo\$2bobo\$2bo!``````
The grin + ship interaction, if the second block isn't placed, produces this constellation:

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``````x = 42, y = 29, rule = B3/S23
bo26bo\$obo24bobo\$obo10b2o12bobo\$bo10bo2bo12bo\$13bobo\$3bo10bo\$3bo\$3bo2\$
13b2o\$13b2o3\$9b2o\$8bo2bo\$9b2o\$b2o\$b2o\$13b2o\$13bobo24b2o\$14bo25b2o8\$15b
3o!``````
So I have a vague idea that one could use Simkin's LifeAPI to aim three gliders at each other from a distance, two of them with variable but small offsets, and search all combinations of offsets. If the population after ~500 generations is 48, and the pattern is 42x29. 42x30. 29X42, or 30x42 (found with FitMinMax and subtracting the maxes from the mins, I think?), report the initial glider position.

Though I took an introductory C coding class, I only know enough to know that it should be fairly easy to set up for someone who actually knows how to use C.