The Hunting of the New Herschel Conduits

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Re: The Hunting of the New Herschel Conduits

Post by dvgrn » July 16th, 2023, 8:53 am

Haycat2009 wrote:
July 16th, 2023, 2:05 am
What, what is considered flipping? (Honestly I have no clue on what is considered flipping, up-down or left-right?)
180 degree rotation. You can see examples of "B" vs. "Bx" in the current Patterns/Life/Signal-Circuitry/h-to-h-collection stamp collection.

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Re: The Hunting of the New Herschel Conduits

Post by squareroot12621 » July 16th, 2023, 9:21 am

Haycat2009 wrote:
July 16th, 2023, 2:05 am
What, what is considered flipping? (Honestly I have no clue on what is considered flipping, up-down or left-right?)
If this is correct, does it help?

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x = 47, y = 44, rule = LifeHistory
19.D5.D$19.D5.D$19.D5.D3.D.D$19.D5.D4.D$19.3D3.3D.D.D3$19.3D3.3D$20.D
5.D$18.3D5.3D7$2D38.3D$D.D8.D23.D4.D$2D2.D.D2.D.D23.D.D2.3D$D.D2.D3.3D
23.3D2.D$2D2.D.D2.D12.A14.D2.D$22.A.A$22.3A$24.A$4.2D3.D27.D2.3D$4.D.
D2.3D23.3D2.D$4.2D3.D.D23.D.D2.3D.D.D$4.D.D4.D23.D4.D4.D$4.2D34.D3.D.
D6$18.3D5.3D$20.D5.D$19.3D3.3D3$15.2D8.2D$15.D.D7.D.D$15.2D2.D.D3.2D$
15.D.D2.D4.D.D$15.D.D.D.D3.D.D!

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4b8o$4b8o$4b8o$4b8o$4o8b4o$4o8b4o$4o8b4o$4o8b4o$4o8b4o$4o8b4o$4o8b4o$4o8b4o$4b8o$4b8o$4b8o$4b8o![[ THEME 0 AUTOSTART GPS 8 Z 16 T 1 T 1 Z 19.027 T 2 T 2 Z 22.627 T 3 T 3 Z 26.909 T 4 T 4 Z 32 T 5 T 5 Z 38.055 T 6 T 6 Z 45.255 T 7 T 7 Z 53.817 LOOP 8 ]]

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Re: The Hunting of the New Herschel Conduits

Post by Haycat2009 » July 17th, 2023, 7:42 am

squareroot12621 wrote:
July 16th, 2023, 9:21 am
Haycat2009 wrote:
July 16th, 2023, 2:05 am
What, what is considered flipping? (Honestly I have no clue on what is considered flipping, up-down or left-right?)
If this is correct, does it help?

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x = 47, y = 44, rule = LifeHistory
19.D5.D$19.D5.D$19.D5.D3.D.D$19.D5.D4.D$19.3D3.3D.D.D3$19.3D3.3D$20.D
5.D$18.3D5.3D7$2D38.3D$D.D8.D23.D4.D$2D2.D.D2.D.D23.D.D2.3D$D.D2.D3.3D
23.3D2.D$2D2.D.D2.D12.A14.D2.D$22.A.A$22.3A$24.A$4.2D3.D27.D2.3D$4.D.
D2.3D23.3D2.D$4.2D3.D.D23.D.D2.3D.D.D$4.D.D4.D23.D4.D4.D$4.2D34.D3.D.
D6$18.3D5.3D$20.D5.D$19.3D3.3D3$15.2D8.2D$15.D.D7.D.D$15.2D2.D.D3.2D$
15.D.D2.D4.D.D$15.D.D.D.D3.D.D!
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Re: The Hunting of the New Herschel Conduits

Post by confocaloid » September 21st, 2023, 6:24 am

yoleo wrote:
September 20th, 2023, 2:35 pm
Two new H-to-B's: HFx68B and HR120B. The output of the first comes from the tiny pi-to-B (PR*9B), so it'll connect to anything that connects to. It's also block keeper, but the block is kind of surrounded by catalysts. The second has better output clearance: with the weld shown, it does connect to conduit 1, giving a HRx179H.
yoleo wrote:
September 20th, 2023, 2:35 pm
edit 2: what is it with me and H to B's today. HFx143B, with terrific output clearance
Several composite H-to-H conduits: Rx179, F226, F202, Rx249, B295 (using nontrivial RF28B+BRx46B combo by EvinZL)

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x = 225, y = 135, rule = LifeHistory
46.2A11.2D8.D.3D.3D28.2A28.3D.3D.3D.3D$45.B2AB5.2A3.D.D6.2D3.D.D.D27.
B2AB5.2A20.D5.D3.D.D$46.3B5.A4.2D2.D.D3.D2.D2.3D28.3B5.A21.3D.3D.3D.
3D$47.B3.BA.A4.D.D2.D4.D.D5.D29.B3.BA.A21.D3.D3.D3.D.D$43.7B.B2A5.D.D
.D.D3.D.D3.3D25.7B.B2A22.D3.3D.3D.3D$42.10B50.10B$42.7B2AB50.7B2AB$
42.6BA2BA50.6BA2BA$40.2AB.5B2AB48.2AB.5B2AB$39.A.AB.8B47.A.AB.8B$39.A
4.8B3.2B42.A4.8B3.2B$38.2A5.12B41.2A5.12B$45.14B46.14B$45.15B45.15B$
43.18B5.2A35.18B5.2A$41.21B4.A.A.2A.A27.21B4.A.A.2A.A$41.2BD19B5.A.A.
2A27.2BD19B5.A.A.2A$40.3BDBD17B4.B2A30.3BDBD17B4.B2A$41.2B3D17B5.2B
31.2B3D17B5.2B$40.5BD23B31.5BD23B$39.10B.19B30.10B.19B$38.4B9.19B.2B
25.4B9.19B.2B$38.3B10.21B2A24.3B10.21B2A$36.4B12.20B2A22.4B12.20B2A$
36.2A14.18B.2B23.2A14.18B.2B$37.A16.13B.2B27.A16.13B.2B12.A$34.3A17.
13B.B25.3A17.13B.B11.3A$34.A20.13B26.A20.13B11.A$56.4B.8B47.4B.8B10.
2A$54.4B3.8B45.4B3.8B11.B$54.2A4.7B47.2A4.7B13.3B$51.A3.A5.6B48.A5.6B
12.6B$51.4A6.6B45.3A6.6B.2B.B3.B2.10B$60.2B2D2BD45.A6.3B2D2BD22B3.2B
2.2B$53.4A2.4B3DB51.2A.2B3D12BD3B2A15BD$53.A2.A7BD4B49.2A4BD13B2D2B2A
15BDBD$58.11B44.2A4.B.5B2D11B2D18B3DB$58.4B2A5B45.A6.6B2D10BD21BD$59.
3B2A5B45.A.AB4.5BD10BD21B$59.10B46.2AB.11B2.3B5.13B.B$60.9B48.2B2A10B
3.3B3.7B.B$60.9B48.BA.AB2.6B5.2A$60.8B50.2A9.2B4.A$61.8B59.BA2B4.3A$
62.6B60.A.A7.A$62.6B61.A$62.6B$61.7B$61.6B$62.6B$62.5B$61.6B$61.6B$
62.5B$62.3D2B$63.BDB$63.3D$64.B15$99.2A$98.B2AB5.2A$99.3B5.A10.2D7.3D
.D.D.3D$12.2A86.B3.BA.A10.D.D8.D.D.D.D.D$11.B2AB5.2A74.7B.B2A11.2D2.D
.D2.3D.3D.3D56.2D3.3D.3D.3D$12.3B5.A74.10B13.D.D2.D3.D5.D3.D56.D.D4.D
.D.D.D$13.B3.BA.A74.7B2AB13.D.D.D.D2.3D3.D.3D40.2A14.2D3.3D.3D.3D$9.
7B.B2A75.6BA2BA72.B2AB5.2A6.D.D2.D5.D3.D$8.10B14.3D2.3D.3D.3D45.2AB.
5B2AB73.3B5.A7.2D3.3D.3D.3D$8.7B2AB14.D6.D.D.D3.D44.A.AB.8B74.B3.BA.A
$8.6BA2BA14.3D2.3D.D.D.3D44.A4.8B3.2B65.7B.B2A$6.2AB.5B2AB14.D4.D3.D.
D.D45.2A5.12B64.10B$5.A.AB.8B14.D4.3D.3D.3D50.14B62.7B2AB$5.A4.8B3.2B
75.15B23.A37.6BA2BA$4.2A5.12B73.18B22.3A33.2AB.5B2AB$11.14B69.21B24.A
31.A.AB.8B$11.15B21.2A45.2BD23B18.2A31.A4.8B3.2B$9.18B21.A44.3BDBD25B
.B12.4B28.2A5.12B$7.21B19.A46.2B3D29B6.2A4.B2A34.14B$7.2BD23B14.2A44.
5BD32B2.B2AB2.BA.A34.15B23.A$6.3BDBD25B.B9.B43.10B.29B.B.B3.B2A33.18B
22.3A$7.2B3D29B7.3B40.4B9.34B.3B31.21B24.A$6.5BD32B3.6B38.3B10.29BD7B
32.2BD23B18.2A$5.10B.29B.10B33.4B12.28B2D6B31.3BDBD25B.B12.4B$4.4B9.
28B.11B3.2B2.2B23.2A14.29B2D6B31.2B3D29B6.2A4.B2A$4.3B10.29BD3B2A15BD
22.A16.26B2D7B30.5BD32B2.B2AB2.BA.A$2.4B12.28B2D2B2A15BDBD17.3A18.28B
D5B29.10B.29B.B.B3.B2A$2.2A14.29B2D18B3DB16.A19.24B2.3B3D3B28.4B9.34B
.3B$3.A16.26B2D21BD37.18B3.3B.5BD4B.BA25.3B10.29BD7B$3A18.47B37.9B4.
6B8.11BA.A22.4B12.28B2D6B$A19.24B4.13B.B42.2A4.2B7.4B9.6B.B.2BA23.2A
14.29B2D6B$20.18B3.3B4.7B.B49.A3.4B4.5B9.7B4.B25.A16.26B2D7B$18.9B4.
6B66.3A4.2A.A2.A.2A13.7B26.3A18.28BD5B.2B$18.2A4.2B7.4B66.A7.A.4AB2A
13.7B26.A19.24B.4B3D5B2A$19.A3.4B4.5B73.A.A6.B14.8B45.18B3.3B.5BD6B2A
$16.3A4.2A.A2.A.2A75.A.A2.4A.2A12.7B.B2A41.9B4.6B8.10B.2B$16.A7.A.4AB
2A75.A2.2A3.2A2.A12.6B.BA.A40.2A4.2B7.4B6.B.7B.2B$22.A.A6.B77.2A2.A5.
2A4.2A6.6B4.A41.A3.4B4.5B6.A9B.B$21.A.A2.4A.2A79.2A11.A6.2B2DBDB4.2A
37.3A4.2A.A2.A.2A8.A.A9B$21.A2.2A3.2A2.A92.3A2.4B3DB43.A7.A.4AB2A9.AB
2.8B$22.2A2.A5.2A94.A7BD4B47.A.A6.B14.8B$25.2A103.11B46.A.A2.4A.2A12.
7B$130.4B2A5B46.A2.2A3.2A2.A12.6B$131.3B2A5B47.2A2.A5.2A8.10B$131.10B
50.2A14.11B$132.9B66.11B.2B$132.9B65.14B2A$132.8B50.B.7B7.12B.B2A$
133.8B43.B.13B4.B2.13B.B$134.6B39.21BD18B$134.6B37.D21BD18B$134.6B36.
B3D18B2D18B$133.7B37.DBD15B2A2B2D17B$133.6B40.D15B2A3BD18B$134.6B41.
2B2.2B3.11B2.2B3.7B2A2B.2B$134.5B52.10B8.B.3BA2BA3B2A$133.6B55.6B13.
2B2A2B.B2A$133.6B57.3B14.6B2.B$134.5B59.B15.4B$134.3D2B58.A.2A13.4B$
135.BDB59.2A2.A13.2B$135.3D62.2A$136.B!
yoleo wrote:
September 20th, 2023, 2:35 pm
edit: here's a variant of the first H-to-B that eliminates that block.
yoleo wrote:
September 20th, 2023, 2:35 pm
edit 3: here's a H-to-Pi. It has that block in the usual spot that makes the output clearance less-than-good, though.
Composite H-to-G: SW57T304 (there was known SW57T399), NE33T6, NW52T376, SE78T2.

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x = 162, y = 142, rule = LifeHistory
101.D3.D.5D2.3D3.3D2.5D2.3D$101.2D2.D.D5.D3.D.D3.D3.D3.D$101.D.D.D.D
9.D5.D3.D3.D$101.D2.2D.3D5.2D4.2D4.D3.4D$13.3D2.D3.D.5D.5D.5D2.3D3.3D
5.D43.D3.D.D9.D5.D3.D3.D3.D$12.D3.D.D3.D.D9.D3.D3.D3.D.D3.D3.2D43.D3.
D.D5.D3.D.D3.D3.D3.D3.D$12.D5.D3.D.D8.D4.D7.D.D2.2D2.D.D43.D3.D.5D2.
3D3.3D4.D4.3D$13.3D2.D.D.D2.3D4.D5.D5.2D2.D.D.D.D2.D$16.D.D.D.D5.D2.D
6.D7.D.2D2.D.5D$12.D3.D.2D.2D.D3.D.D7.D3.D3.D.D3.D4.D$13.3D2.D3.D2.3D
2.D7.D4.3D3.3D5.D6$153.B$152.2B$18.2A131.3B$17.B2AB5.2A75.2A45.4B$18.
3B5.A75.B2AB5.2A36.4B$19.B3.BA.A76.3B5.A36.4B$15.7B.B2A78.B3.BA.A35.
4B$14.10B19.A56.7B.B2A35.4B$14.7B2AB19.3A10.A42.10B36.4B$14.6BA2BA22.
A7.3A42.7B2AB35.4B$12.2AB.5B2AB21.2AB5.A45.6BA2BA34.4B$11.A.AB.8B21.
5B3.2A42.2AB.5B2AB22.A10.4B$11.A4.8B3.2B18.8B41.A.AB.8B22.3A7.4B$10.
2A5.12B18.6B43.A4.8B3.2B20.A5.4B$17.14B16.7B41.2A5.12B19.2A.7B$17.15B
6.B9.6B48.14B17.9B$15.17B4.2A2B4.2B.8B47.15B6.B11.6B$13.19B2.2B2A18B
44.17B4.2A2B4.2B4.5B$13.2BC39B43.19B2.2B2A10B.7B$12.3BCBC37B3.2A38.2B
C39B$13.2B3C37B3.A.A36.3BCBC37B$12.5BC37B4.AB37.2B3C37B$11.10B.33B2.
3B37.5BC37B$10.4B6.B.34B.4B35.10B.33B4.2A$10.3B6.43B33.4B6.B.34B2.A.A
$8.4B7.8B2.B2.30B33.3B6.37B2.BA$8.2A8.4B2A3B.3B3.29B30.4B7.8B2.B2.27B
$9.A8.3BA2BA2B.B2AB2.30B29.2A8.4B2A3B.3B3.25B$6.3A10.2BABA3B2.2A4.28B
31.A8.3BA2BA2B.B2AB2.26B$6.A14.BA3B9.26B30.3A10.2BABA3B2.2A4.26B$19.
9B7.3B.22B30.A14.BA3B9.25B$19.2A5.2A8.B2.21B44.9B7.3B2.20B$20.A5.A14.
20B43.2A5.2A8.B5.15B$17.3A7.3A12.19B44.A5.A15.14B$17.A11.A14.17B41.3A
7.3A13.13B$45.14B.B2A39.A11.A13.13B$46.11B3.BA.A64.14B$46.12B5.A65.
13B$47.11B5.2A63.14B$48.11B67.2AB.12B$49.9B67.A.AB3.B2.6BAB$49.8B68.A
10.4BABA$50.6B68.2A11.3B2A$49.4B84.3B$48.4B86.4B$47.4B89.2A$46.4B90.A
$141.3A$143.A13$30.D3.D.D3.D.5D2.3D2.5D2.3D2.5D2.3D$30.2D2.D.D3.D.D5.
D3.D3.D3.D3.D5.D.D$30.D.D.D.D3.D.D9.D3.D7.D4.D2.D$30.D2.2D.D.D.D2.3D
5.D4.D5.2D4.D3.4D$30.D3.D.D.D.D5.D3.D5.D7.D2.D4.D3.D$30.D3.D.2D.2D.D
3.D2.D6.D3.D3.D.D5.D3.D$30.D3.D.D3.D2.3D2.5D3.D4.3D2.D6.3D3$94.3D2.5D
.5D2.3D2.5D2.3D$93.D3.D.D9.D.D3.D3.D3.D3.D$93.D5.D8.D2.D3.D3.D7.D$94.
3D2.3D5.D4.3D4.D6.D$28.4B65.D.D6.D4.D3.D3.D5.D$29.4B60.D3.D.D5.D5.D3.
D3.D4.D$30.4B60.3D2.5D.D6.3D4.D3.5D$31.4B$32.4B$33.4B116.A$34.4B104.B
8.3A$35.4B102.3B6.A$36.4B11.2A4.B81.5B6.2A$37.4B10.A.A2.4B75.AB.8B.5B
$38.4B10.A7B15.2A57.A.A13B$39.4B11.6B8.BA5.A58.2A.14B3.B$40.4B10.7B3.
4BABA.BA.A61.14B.4B$41.4B.B5.17B2A.B2A48.2A14.18B$42.31B51.A7.B5.20B$
12.2A28.31B51.A.AB3.27B$11.B2AB5.2A20.30B26.2A25.2AB.29B$12.3B5.A21.
28B27.B2AB5.2A19.32B$13.B3.BA.A22.26B29.3B5.A20.33B$9.7B.B2A21.2AB2.
22B31.B3.BA.A20.34B$8.10B22.A.AB3.21B27.7B.B2A20.31B.4B$8.7B2AB22.A5.
23B25.10B22.29B4.3B$8.6BA2BA21.2A5.22B26.7B2AB21.5B.23B6.2B$6.2AB.5B
2AB27.23B26.6BA2BA20.2AB5.21B8.B$5.A.AB.8B27.22B25.2AB.5B2AB19.A.AB4.
20B$5.A4.8B3.2B23.19B.3B22.A.AB.8B19.A7.19B$4.2A5.12B23.16B5.2A22.A4.
8B3.2B13.2A8.17B$11.14B21.14B7.A22.2A5.12B23.17B$11.15B20.14B8.3A26.
14B21.16B$9.18B6.2A10.14B11.A26.15B20.15B$7.21B4.B2AB8.15B36.18B6.2A
10.16B$7.2BC19B4.2B10.2A13B33.21B4.B2AB8.15B$6.3BCBC17B4.2B.B.2B5.2A
14B32.2BC19B4.2B10.2A13B$7.2B3C17B3.9B5.14B32.3BCBC17B4.2B.B.2B5.2A
14B$6.5BC30B4.11B36.2B3C17B3.9B5.14B$5.10B.27B.B2.8B37.5BC30B4.11B$4.
4B9.38B36.10B.27B.B2.8B$4.3B10.37B36.4B9.38B$2.4B12.36B.2B33.3B10.37B
$2.2A14.38B2A30.4B12.36B.2B$3.A16.34B.B2A30.2A14.38B2A$3A17.34B2.B32.
A16.34B.B2A$A19.10B4.8B.12B31.3A17.34B2.B$19.13B7.B5.B.B3.4B31.A19.
10B4.8B.12B$19.6B5.2A13.B2AB.B2A2B50.13B7.B5.B.B3.4B$20.4B6.A15.2A3.
2A.B2A48.6B5.2A13.B2AB.B2A2B$18.6B7.3A20.BA.A48.4B6.A15.2A3.2A.B2A$
18.2A.B11.A23.A46.6B7.3A20.BA.A$19.A37.2A45.2A.B11.A23.A$16.3A86.A37.
2A$16.A85.3A$102.A!
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Re: The Hunting of the New Herschel Conduits

Post by Haycat2009 » October 7th, 2023, 9:07 am

Are there any known composite Herschel conduits with a U, J, O, I, Q or D stage?
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Re: The Hunting of the New Herschel Conduits

Post by EvinZL » October 7th, 2023, 10:26 am

Haycat2009 wrote:
October 7th, 2023, 9:07 am
Are there any known composite Herschel conduits with a U, J, O, I, Q or D stage?
I know of examples with intermediate I and Q stages:

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x = 71, y = 41, rule = LifeHistory
32.A$30.3A$17.A11.A18.A$17.3A9.2A15.3A$20.A9.B14.A$7.2A10.2A9.3B8.B3.
2A$8.A10.5B5.6B5.7B$8.A.AB9.4B3.10B2.5B$9.2AB.3B4.6B2.18B$11.7B.13B2A
13B2A$11.21B2A13B2A$12.36B7.2A$11.37B3.2A2.A$9.40B2.A.A.A$7.18B.B3.
14BD4B3.B.A4.A$7.2BD13B7.7B.5BDBD7B4.3A$6.3BDBD4B.6B16.7BD7B2.A$7.2B
3D4B2.B.5B12.5BD2BD7B3.2A$6.5BD4B7.2A10.7B3D8B2.3B$5.10B8.A11.21B4.2B
2.2B$4.4B16.3A9.31BD$4.3B19.A10.30BDBD$2.4B30.31B3DB$2.2A32.33BD$3.A
33.31B$3A35.23B.4B$A37.20B3.4B$35.2B.21B.4B$34.2A27B$34.2AB.24B$35.B.
19B.4B$38.13B.2B2.4B$42.8B3.AB2.2B3.B$45.5B2.A.A2.3B.B2A$43.6B3.2A4.A
3B2A$43.4B10.A.AB.B$43.2B2AB8.A.AB$41.2AB.2A9.A$40.A.AB11.2A$40.A$39.
2A!

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x = 60, y = 72, rule = LifeHistory
50.B$49.3D$49.BDB$48.3D2B$48.5B$39.2A6.6B$38.A.A6.6B$30.A7.BA8.5B$29.
A.A7.2B2.2B3.6B$29.A.A6.15B$27.3A.2A4.17B$26.A4.B4.18B$27.3AB2AB2.13B
2A3B$29.A.2AB.14BABA2B$33.17B2A2B$33.21B$33.10B.9B$34.8B5.6B$33.9B5.
5B$34.9B5.4B$33.10B6.2B$32.12B$32.13B$32.12B5.2A$32.12B5.A$33.10B3.BA
.A$20.A11.11B3.B2A$20.3A9.15B$23.A6.18B$22.2A6.17B$22.26B$22.27B$21.
28B$20.29B$21.11BD17B$19.13B2D17B$14.B.17B2D18B$13.2AB.16B3D17B$13.2A
18B2D17B2A$14.B.16B2D16B.B2A$16.16BD14B5.B$16.12B.19B$16.28B.4B$16.
12B.14B3.4B$16.10B3.10B.3B4.4B$16.10B3.10B9.4B$15.10B5.9B10.4B$15.10B
6.8B11.4B$7.2A6.10B10.3B13.4B$8.A7.9B9.5B.2A10.4B$8.A.AB4.9B.2B6.B2A
3B.A11.4B$9.2AB.14B2A6.2AB2.A13.4B$11.16B2A10.A15.4B$11.14B.2B7.5A.A
14.4B$12.13B10.A4.A.A14.3B$11.14B.2B9.A2.A.A15.2B$9.18B2A7.2A3.A17.B$
7.18B.B2A$7.2BD15B2.B$6.3BDBD4B.8B$7.2B3D4B2.7B$6.5BD4B2.7B$5.10B3.7B
$4.4B11.7B$4.3B12.7B$2.4B13.6B$2.2A16.5B$3.A14.6B$3A15.6B$A17.4B$18.
2B2AB$20.2A!

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Re: The Hunting of the New Herschel Conduits

Post by Jormungant » October 8th, 2023, 9:47 am

Hey! I found something quite amusing!

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x = 45, y = 55, rule = LifeHistory
3$38.CB$37.BCBC$36.2B2C$35.4B$34.4B$33.4B$32.4B$31.4B$30.4B$29.4B$28.
4B$27.4B$26.4B$8.A16.14B$8.3A5.2A6.4B2.8BA$11.A3.B2AB4.4B2.8BABA$10.
2A4.3B3.4B.10BABA$10.5B2.B2.18BAB$12.15BD11B$11.2A14BDBD9B$11.2A3B2D
9B3D7B$7.2A3.B.2B2D11BD7B$8.A5.19B2.B$5.3A3.A3.6B.B$4.A3.4A2.7B$4.A.A
.B3.5B2C2B$5.2AB2A6BC2BCB$8.2A7B2C2B$5.2A3.11B$5.A4.10B$6.A3.9B$5.2A
2.9B$9.9B$9.9B$7.2AB.3B2A2B$6.A.AB.2BA2BA3B$6.A5.BABA3B2A$5.2A3.4BA2B
.BA.A.2A$10.2A6.2B.A.A$11.A7.B2A2.A$8.3A8.B2.2A$8.A11.2A$21.A$20.A$
20.2A!
Well, that makes a G1-to-H or G2-to-H, thought that natural first block from the H cannot be eaten easily, so possible follow up are limited, still I like this weird co-incidence. In theory, it can work as a g-to-h, but getting the glider there is difficult (but not impossible? I assume)

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x = 65, y = 78, rule = LifeHistory
5$38.2B2.2B2.B$36.D11B$34.DBD12B2.B$33.B3D9B2AB.B2A$34.D11B2A3B2A$36.
14B.B$38.4B.7B$39.4B.7B$40.12B$41.11B$42.9B.3B$43.12B$40.2B.11B2A$39.
2A13B2A$39.2AB.10B.B$40.B2.10B$43.9B$42.10B$41.11B$40.11B$39.13B$38.
15B$37.19B$36.19B2A$35.4B.15B2A$34.4B.17B$33.19B$32.19B$32.C.17B$30.B
.C.C15B$30.B.2C19B$12.A16.2B3.19B$12.3A5.2A6.3B2.21B$15.A3.B2AB4.4B.
23B$14.2A4.3B3.29B$14.5B2.B2.30B$16.15BD13B.10B$15.2A14BD.D12B2.2B4.
2A$15.2A3B2D9B3D9B.B4.B4.A$11.2A3.B.2B2D10B.D6B2.2B2A3.2A4.3A$12.A5.
19B.B2.BA2.A4.A6.A$9.3A3.A3.6B.B3.B11.3A5.A.A$8.A3.4A2.7B26.2A$8.A.A.
B3.5B2C2B17.3A$9.2AB2A6BC2BCB17.A2.A$12.2A7B2C2B19.2A$9.2A3.11B$9.A4.
10B$10.A3.9B$9.2A2.9B$13.9B$13.9B$11.2AB.3B2A2B$10.A.AB.2BA2BA3B$10.A
5.BABA3B2A$9.2A3.4BA2B.BA.A.2A$14.2A6.2B.A.A$15.A7.B2A2.A$12.3A8.B2.
2A$12.A11.2A$25.A$24.A$24.2A!
Addendum: Just moved to goalpost for a potential G-to-h, as least it is a "problematic" g-to-b now:

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x = 59, y = 54, rule = LifeHistory
3$38.CB$37.BCBC$36.2B2C$35.4B$34.4B$33.4B$32.4B6.AB$31.4B6.A.AB.B$30.
4B6.B.2A2B2A$29.4B5.6B.B2A$28.4B.D3.6B3.B$27.5B3D2.7B$26.5B2D2BD9B$8.
A16.20B$8.3A5.2A6.4B.16B$11.A3.B2AB4.4B2.16B$10.2A4.3B3.4B.18B$10.5B
2.B2.24B6.A$12.15BD16B4.3A$11.2A14BD.D16B.A$11.2A3B2D9B3D16BA.A$7.2A
3.B.2B2D11BD14B.2BAB$8.A5.19B2.9B2.2B$5.3A3.A3.6B.B12.8B4.B.A$4.A3.4A
2.7B14.7B4.A.A.A$4.A.A.B3.5B2C2B15.5B5.2A2.A$5.2AB2A6BC2BCB15.7B.2A4.
2A$8.2A7B2C2B16.4B2A2.A$5.2A3.11B17.2BAB3A$5.A4.10B19.BAB$6.A3.9B22.
3A.A.2A$5.2A2.9B25.A.2A.A$9.9B25.A$9.9B24.2A$7.2AB.3B2A2B$6.A.AB.2BA
2BA3B$6.A5.BABA3B2A$5.2A3.4BA2B.BA.A.2A$10.2A6.2B.A.A$11.A7.B2A2.A$8.
3A8.B2.2A$8.A11.2A$21.A$20.A$20.2A!
Well, some more odd stuff, still a block left behind though...

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x = 66, y = 83, rule = LifeHistory
3$11.A$11.3A$14.A14.2A$13.2A8.2B4.A$13.4B3.7BA.A$15.3B.8B2A$13.14B$
12.15B$12.14B$13.14B$13.13B$13.13B$12.15B$12.5B3D11B$12.5BD13B$11.6B
2DBD12B5.2A$10.9B2D13B3.B2AB9.A$10.23B5.2B9.A.A$10.24B5.2B7.2BAB$12.
22B4.6B5.2B2.C$12.B4.17B3.8B3.2B2.C$16.17B2.B.14B.3C$16.33B3.B$16.31B
4.3B.BA$14.2AB.29B3.5BA.A$13.A.AB.29B2.6B.2A$13.A4.28B2.6B$12.2A3.28B
2.7B$18.26B2.3B.3B$19.14B.9B3.2B3.B$19.12B3.7B3.B$19.12B2.11B$20.8B4.
12B$20.6B6.7B.4B$20.6B6.7B.B.2B$20.6B6.B3D3B3.B$21.4B7.2BD5B$23.B8.2B
3D2B$22.3B7.6B$22.B2AB5.7B5.AB$23.2A5.8B4.A.AB.B$29.8B4.B.2A2B2A$28.
9B2.6B.B2A$27.7B.9B3.B$26.7B4.8B$25.7B2.B2.9B$9.A14.9B2.B2.8B$9.3A5.
2A4.6B.3B2DB.9B$12.A3.B2AB2.6B2.3B2DB.9B$11.2A4.3B.6B.6B3.9B$11.5B2.B
.25B6.A$13.15BD16B4.3A$12.2A14BDBD16B.A$12.2A14B3D16BA.A$8.2A3.B.15BD
14B.2BAB$9.A5.19B2.9B2.2B$6.3A3.A3.6B.4B9.8B4.B.A$5.A3.4A2.11B10.7B4.
A.A.A$5.A.A.B3.5B2C5B12.5B5.2A2.A$6.2AB2A6BC2BC3B13.7B.2A4.2A$9.2A7B
2C3B15.4B2A2.A$6.2A3.11B17.2BAB3A$6.A4.10B19.BAB$7.A3.9B22.3A.A.2A$6.
2A2.9B25.A.2A.A$10.9B25.A$10.9B24.2A$8.2AB.3B2A2B$7.A.AB.2BA2BA3B$7.A
5.BABA3B2A$6.2A3.4BA2B.BA.A.2A$11.2A6.2B.A.A$12.A7.B2A2.A$9.3A8.B2.2A
$9.A11.2A$22.A$21.A$21.2A!

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Re: The Hunting of the New Herschel Conduits

Post by yoleo » October 8th, 2023, 9:25 pm

That seems like it should be potentially solvable. It's a bit big for CatForce's 64x64 torus, but I did manage to find this:

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x = 47, y = 55, rule = LifeHistory
44.C$44.C.C$44.2C15$36.D$35.3D$34.2D2.D4.2A$43.A$41.A.A$41.2A$4.A$4.
3A5.2A$7.A4.2A$6.2A$42.2A$42.A.A$7.2A20.2D13.A$7.2A20.2D13.2A$3.2A15.
D$4.A14.D.D$.3A3.A11.D.D$A3.4A12.D$A.A10.2A$.2A.2A6.A2.A15.A.2A$4.2A
7.2A14.3A.A$.2A25.A4.A.A$.A27.4A.2A$2.A29.A$.2A26.2A.A$29.A.A2$3.2A5.
2A$2.A.A4.A2.A$2.A6.A.A3.2A$.2A7.A4.A.A.2A$6.2A9.A.A$7.A8.2A2.A$4.3A
11.2A$4.A11.2A$17.A$16.A$16.2A!
It's probably even less usable than that G-to-B, but it does show that there are other ways of eliminating that leftover block.

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Re: The Hunting of the New Herschel Conduits

Post by Haycat2009 » October 14th, 2023, 11:32 am

New Fx70. Found by me, based on a period-multiplying partial.

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x = 50, y = 47, rule = B3/S23
26bo$25bobo$26bo2$24b5o$23bo4bo$22bo2bo$19bo2bob2o13b2o$7b2o9bobobo5b
o10b2o$8bo10bo2bo4bobo$7bo14b2o2bo2bo$7b2o18b2o2$46bob2o$44b3ob2o$44b
o$44bo$6bo3b2o$6b2o2b2o$7b2o$6b2o5$4b2o33b2o$4bobo2b2o28b2o$bo4bo3bo$
b5ob3o$5bobo$b3obobo13b2o$o2bob2o14bo$2o17bobo$19b2o$7bo$6bobo$5bo2bo
$6b2o2$3b2o13b2o$2bobo13bo$2bo12b2obo$b2o4b2o6b2obob2o$8bo10bobo$5b3o
3b2obob2obo$5bo5bob2obo2bo$17b2o!
Now I have a third henchman, life will be easy!

Only problem is that it has low clearance, but moving the jubjub away will solve this.
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Re: The Hunting of the New Herschel Conduits

Post by dvgrn » October 14th, 2023, 11:50 am

Haycat2009 wrote:
October 14th, 2023, 11:32 am
New Fx70. Found by me, based on a period-multiplying partial.
...
Only problem is that it has low clearance, but moving the jubjub away will solve this.
Nice! Repeat time is 195+8N (depending on how far the reflector has to move) -- which is on the high side compared to most other Herschel conduits in the current collection, but not totally out of the range. And it has to be followed by a dependent conduit, but there are other conduits in the collection with that limitation, too.

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Re: The Hunting of the New Herschel Conduits

Post by yoleo » November 9th, 2023, 4:38 pm

Here's three new H conduits: HBx226, HL154H, and HR184H. The output is a bit finicky on the first two. I'd also like to find a better cleanup for the last one, that only uses the FNG of the output. The leftover block is just one lane closer to the glider than for the sparky eaters in the B-to-H's (use FNG to delete the block) in the ECC.

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x = 145, y = 70, rule = LifeHistory
.D3.D.4D9.3D3.3D3.3D2.D3.D18.D3.D.D7.D3.5D4.D2.D3.D15.D3.D.4D4.D4.3D
5.D2.D3.D$.D3.D.D3.D7.D3.D.D3.D.D5.D3.D18.D3.D.D6.2D3.D7.2D2.D3.D15.D
3.D.D3.D2.2D3.D3.D3.2D2.D3.D$.D3.D.D3.D.D3.D5.D5.D.D5.D3.D18.D3.D.D7.
D3.D6.D.D2.D3.D15.D3.D.D3.D3.D3.D3.D2.D.D2.D3.D$.5D.4D3.D.D5.D5.D2.4D
2.5D18.5D.D7.D4.3D2.D2.D2.5D15.5D.4D4.D4.3D2.D2.D2.5D$.D3.D.D3.D3.D5.
D5.D3.D3.D.D3.D18.D3.D.D7.D7.D.5D.D3.D15.D3.D.D2.D4.D3.D3.D.5D.D3.D$.
D3.D.D3.D2.D.D3.D5.D4.D3.D.D3.D18.D3.D.D7.D3.D3.D4.D2.D3.D15.D3.D.D3.
D3.D3.D3.D4.D2.D3.D$.D3.D.4D2.D3.D.5D.5D2.3D2.D3.D18.D3.D.5D2.3D3.3D
5.D2.D3.D15.D3.D.D3.D2.3D3.3D5.D2.D3.D3$31.2A$23.B7.A81.2A$22.3B7.A
29.2A5.A44.A$14.B7.3B6.2A29.A5.A.A43.A.A$12.5B4.6B4.B31.A4.A.A44.2AB$
.A7.2B.7B2.7B.3B28.3A.A2.2A.2A14.2A28.4B$A.A6.24B3.2A21.AB3.A5.B15.2A
29.3B$A.A4.27B2.A.A20.ABABA.4AB2A46.4B$.A4.30B2.A21.2A.A.A2.A.2A48.3B
$5.7BD15B2E7B.2A20.4BA5.4B12.B26.A6.4B6.2A$5.5BDBD15B2E5B.2A2.A19.6B.
B4.B2A10.3D25.3A4.4B6.A$6.4B3D23B.A.2A18.10B2.BA.A4.A5.BDB28.A3.5B2.B
A.A$6.4BD23B.B.A21.10B2.B2A3.3A4.3D2B26.2A2.7B.B2A$7.26B3.2A23.9B.3B
2.A7.5B26.13B$9.B3.20B29.11B3.2A5.6B28.11B$18.16B27.17B5.6B27.18B$19.
15B7.2A16.17B.3B4.5B27.19B2.2A.A$20.16B2.BA2.A14.25B.7B24.23BA.2A$20.
17B.B3A15.2BC29B24.23B$14.2A5.18B17.3BCBC28B23.17B2E4B$14.A.A3.19B2A.
A.2A11.2B3C28B22.18B2E3B$15.2A2.18B3.A.2A.A10.5BC4B2.22B21.24B$11.2A
6.17B4.A14.10B3.18B2E3B20.23B$10.A.A7.16B3.2A14.3B11.B2.14B2E2B22.22B
$10.A9.16B19.3B15.17B21.23B$9.2A9.15B.2A15.2AB18.8B.6B20.24B$20.12B.
2B2.A16.AB16.4B.2B6.4B18.25B$20.10B2.2BAB.A.2A10.3A18.2A11.4B18.2BC
22B$20.10B3.A.A.A2.A10.A21.A12.2B18.3BCBC4B.15B$19.10B5.A.A.A31.3A34.
2B3C4B.16B$19.10B6.A2.2A30.A35.5BC4B2.15B$11.2A6.10B9.A2.A63.10B4.13B
$12.A7.9B11.2A62.4B11.13B$12.A.AB4.9B.2B71.4B12.14B$13.2AB.14B2A69.4B
14.4B.B.6B$15.16B2A68.4B13.5B4.5B$15.14B.2B68.4B14.2A7.2B3D$16.13B70.
4B16.A8.BDB$15.14B.2B66.4B14.3A9.3D$13.18B2A49.2A13.4B15.A12.B$11.18B
.B2A49.A.A2.2A7.4B$11.2BC15B2.B47.A4.A3.A6.4B$10.3BCBC4B.8B50.5A.3A6.
4B$11.2B3C4B2.7B54.A.A7.4B$10.5BC4B2.7B50.3ABABA6.4B3.2A$9.10B3.7B49.
A2.AB2A6.4B4.A$8.4B11.7B48.2A2.4B4.5B.BA.A33.2A$8.3B12.7B52.13B.B2A
33.A2.A$6.4B13.6B54.2BA11B36.2A$6.2A16.5B54.BABA10B$7.A15.5B55.A2BA9B
$4.3A16.5B55.B2A10B$4.A20.B.B55.13B$24.3B54.2AB.10B.2A$24.B2AB52.A.AB
3.8B.A$25.2A53.A4.5B3.2A.A$79.2A4.2A6.2ABA.2A$86.A7.B2.A.A$83.3A3.2A.
A.2A.A$83.A5.A.2A.A2.A$95.2A!
The search strategy to find the first and third were inspired by R49: I've modified CatForce to allow a catalyst-associated filter. Using that functionality, I can have CatForce place the block and snake (as one catalyst) then check (for each of the next N generations) if an R descendent appears in the right spot to restore the block. It's a handy way to generate X-to-H conduits with decent output clearance. I'm calling it "the R49 trick," but we'll see if the name sticks.

EDIT: names now fixed.

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Re: The Hunting of the New Herschel Conduits

Post by confocaloid » November 10th, 2023, 3:13 pm

yoleo wrote:
November 9th, 2023, 4:38 pm
I'd also like to find a better cleanup for the last one, that only uses the FNG of the output. The leftover block is just one lane closer to the glider than for the sparky eaters in the B-to-H's (use FNG to delete the block) in the ECC.
This works:

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x = 60, y = 67, rule = LifeHistory
4.2A.A3.4B$4.A.2A4.4B$13.4B$5.5A4.4B$2A2.A4.A5.4B$A2.A.BAB8.4B$.A.A.
2AB9.4B$2A.A.4BA8.4B$3.A3.BABA8.4B$3.2A2.A2BA9.4B$8.2A3B8.4B$10.7B5.
4B$10.9B4.4B$10.10B4.4B$10.11B4.4B$6.14B6.4B$6.14B7.4B$5.16B7.4B$5.
17B7.4B$5.11B2A4B8.4B$6.10B2A9B4.4B$6.24B2.4B$6.25B2.4B$7.24B3.4B$8.
24B3.4B$7.26B3.4B$8.26B3.4B$6.29B3.4B6.2A$6.2A.21B2A4B2.4B6.A$7.A3.
18BA2BA3B2.5B2.BA.A$4.3A5.9B.8B2A4B.7B.B2A$4.A4.2B.8B3.4B2.6B2.9B$8.
2A9B5.4B2.B4.11B$8.2AB.7B6.4B5.18B$9.B.9B6.4B4.19B2.2A.A$12.7B8.4B2.
22BA.2A$14.5B9.26B$14.2B.B11.19B2A4B$30.18B2A3B$29.24B$29.23B$30.22B$
29.23B$27.24B$25.25B$25.2BC22B$24.3BCBC4B.15B$25.2B3C4B.16B$24.5BC4B
2.15B$23.10B4.13B$22.4B11.13B$22.3B12.14B$20.4B14.4B2.7B$20.2A14.5B4.
6B$21.A14.2A7.2B3D2B$18.3A16.A7.2BD4B$18.A15.3A8.B3D4B.3B$34.A10.13B$
45.14B$45.15B$46.14B$46.13B$45.14B$46.12B$48.3B2A3B$48.2BA2BAB$50.B2A!
HR184H / R184

Edit: it can connect to itself

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x = 122, y = 122, rule = B3/S23
31b2obo$31bob2o2$32b5o$27b2o2bo4bo$27bo2bo2bo$28bobob2o$27b2obo5bo$30b
o4bobo$30b2o2bo2bo$35b2o9$43b2o$43b2o7$75b2o37bob2o$33b2o22b2o16bo38b
2obo$34bo21bo2bo13bobo$31b3o23b2o14b2o37b5o$31bo58b2o20bo4bo2b2o$35b2o
47b2o5bo23bo2bo2bo$35b2o48bo5bobo21b2obobo$82b3o7b2o18bo5bob2o$82bo5b
2o21bobo4bo$32b2o54b2o21bo2bo2b2o$32bobo40b2o35b2o$34bo40b2o$34b2o4$
101b2o$101b2o$27bo9b2o$27b3o7b2o$30bo$29b2o6$63b2o9b3o$64bo9bo$61b3o9b
3o16bo$54b2o5bo29bobo$54bobo34bobo$56bo35bo$56b2o$64b2o$29bo35bo$28bob
o34bobo$28bobo29bo5b2o$29bo28b3o$57bo$57b2o6$91b2o$91bo$83b2o7b3o$83b
2o9bo$19b2o$19b2o4$86b2o$45b2o40bo$8b2o35b2o40bobo$3b2o2bo2bo21b2o54b
2o$3bo4bobo21b2o5bo$2obo5bo18b2o7b3o$bobob2o21bobo5bo48b2o$o2bo2bo23bo
5b2o47b2o$2o2bo4bo20b2o58bo$5b5o37b2o14b2o23b3o$46bobo13bo2bo21bo$4bob
2o38bo16b2o22b2o$4b2obo37b2o7$77b2o$77b2o9$85b2o$84bo2bo2b2o$84bobo4bo
$85bo5bob2o$88b2obobo$88bo2bo2bo$85bo4bo2b2o$85b5o2$87b2obo$87bob2o!
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Re: The Hunting of the New Herschel Conduits

Post by Jormungant » November 10th, 2023, 9:03 pm

and for your dependent circuits I guess:

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x = 58, y = 66, rule = LifeHistory
4$29.2A$29.A$30.A$17.A11.2A$16.B3A8.B2.2A$15.4B.A7.B2A2.A$14.4B.2A6.
2B.A.A$14.2AB2.4BA2B.BA.A.2A$14.BA5.BABA3B2A$14.BA.AB.2BA2BA3B$16.2AB
.3B2A2B$18.9B$18.9B$18.6B3D9.2A$18.6BD3B8.A$17.8BD3B4.BA.A$17.14B2.B
2A$17.17B$18.16B$19.15B5.2A$19.14B6.A$18.9B2.5B2.BA.A$18.8B2.7B.B2A$
18.8B2.9B$16.2AB.17B$15.A.AB.4B.18B$15.A5.3B.19B2.2A.A$14.2A6.B.22BA.
2A$20.25B$20.19B2A4B$21.18B2A3B$20.24B$20.23B$21.22B$20.23B$18.24B$
16.25B$16.2BC22B$15.3BCBC4B.15B$16.2B3C4B.16B$15.5BC4B2.15B$14.10B4.
13B$13.4B11.13B$13.3B12.14B$11.4B14.4B2.7B$11.2A14.5B4.6B$12.A14.2A7.
2B3D2B$9.3A16.A7.2BD4B$9.A15.3A8.B3D4B.3B$25.A10.13B$36.B2C.10B$36.B
2C.11B$37.B2.11B$37.13B$36.14B$37.12B$39.B5.2B$39.B3.B.B$41.B!
Though there might something better, we have many glider-to-sparky mess and/or hive factories to play with now

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Re: The Hunting of the New Herschel Conduits

Post by yoleo » November 11th, 2023, 4:34 pm

Though there might something better, we have many glider-to-sparky mess and/or hive factories to play with now
I hadn't considered using those! Looking thru barrister results on the speed tunnel from a previous search, I found something that works:

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x = 42, y = 58, rule = LifeHistory
21.2A$21.A2.2A$22.A.A$9.A11.2A2.A$9.3A8.B2.A.A$12.A7.B2A.A$11.2A6.2B.
A$6.2A3.4BE2B.BA.A$7.A5.BEBE3B2A$7.A.AB.2BE2BE3B$8.2AB.3B2E2B$10.9B$
10.9B$10.9B$8.12B$6.A.A12B$5.AB2A13B$5.A.B.2B.11B$6.3AB2.12B6.2A$8.AB
2.7B.4B6.A$6.2A3.8B.5B2.BA.A$6.A3.8B.7B.B2A$3.2A.A4.7B.9B$3.2A.A.AB2.
5B2.9B$7.2AB2.3B.18B$9.3B4.19B2.2A.A$9.4B2.22BA.2A$10.26B$11.19B2E4B$
12.18B2E3B$11.24B$11.23B$12.22B$11.23B$9.24B$7.25B$7.2BC22B$6.3BCBC4B
.15B$7.2B3C4B.16B$6.5BC4B2.15B$5.10B4.13B$4.4B11.13B$4.3B12.14B$2.4B
14.4B2.7B$2.2A14.5B4.6B$3.A14.2A7.2B3D2B$3A16.A7.2BD4B$A15.3A9.3D4B.
3B$16.A10.13B$27.14B$27.15B$28.14B$28.13B$27.14B$28.12B$30.3B2E3B$30.
2BE2BEB$32.B2E!
The repeat time is 257 due to the FNG of the output, 140 if connected to a dependent conduit. Experimenting by hand with a couple periods, it period doubles at 140 and works just fine at 142 due to how the FNG interacts with the H.

edit: this now means that you can fit 2 H's in a loop of 4 of these for a p368 emu.

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Re: The Hunting of the New Herschel Conduits

Post by AlbertArmStain » December 4th, 2023, 7:59 am

I believe this is a new conduit called HR89H found by ljkiernan:

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x = 29, y = 34, rule = LifeHistory
19.2A2.2A$13.2A3.A.A3.A$14.A3.A2.3A$14.A.2A.A.A$5.A9.A.A.A2B3.2A$5.3A
9.2BAB3.A2.A$8.A7.3B2A3.A.A.A$7.2A3.B2.7B.2A.A.A$7.8B.5B2.A2.2A$9.15B
2A$9.15B2.2A$8.16B2A2.A$6.18B.A.2A$4.18B3.A$4.2BC15B2.2A$3.3BCBC12B$4.
2B3C12B$3.5BC14B$2.22B$.4B10.9B$4B12.8B$3B12.7B$16.6B$16.7B$15.8B$15.
7B$16.6B$16.7B$17.6B$17.5B$17.2B3D$18.BDB$18.3D$19.B!

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Re: The Hunting of the New Herschel Conduits

Post by confocaloid » December 4th, 2023, 8:15 am

AlbertArmStain wrote:
December 4th, 2023, 7:59 am
I believe this is a new conduit called HR89H found by ljkiernan:

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x = 29, y = 34, rule = LifeHistory
19.2A2.2A$13.2A3.A.A3.A$14.A3.A2.3A$14.A.2A.A.A$5.A9.A.A.A2B3.2A$5.3A
9.2BAB3.A2.A$8.A7.3B2A3.A.A.A$7.2A3.B2.7B.2A.A.A$7.8B.5B2.A2.2A$9.15B
2A$9.15B2.2A$8.16B2A2.A$6.18B.A.2A$4.18B3.A$4.2BC15B2.2A$3.3BCBC12B$4.
2B3C12B$3.5BC14B$2.22B$.4B10.9B$4B12.8B$3B12.7B$16.6B$16.7B$15.8B$15.
7B$16.6B$16.7B$17.6B$17.5B$17.2B3D$18.BDB$18.3D$19.B!
This is a completion of an "almost an R89":
C_R_116 wrote:
August 14th, 2023, 2:31 am
EDIT: Almost an R89

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x = 25, y = 30, rule = LifeHistory
20.2A$20.2A15$11.3C7.2A$12.C8.A.A$12.3C8.A$23.2A$.A$.3A$4.A$3.A.A$4.A
2$2.A$.A.A.A$.A2.2A$2A!
Comparison:

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x = 65, y = 34, rule = LifeHistory
19.2A2.2A$13.2A3.A.A3.A$14.A3.A2.3A$14.A.2A.A.A$5.A9.A.A.A2B3.2A18.A$
5.3A9.2BAB3.A2.A17.3A9.3B$8.A7.3B2A3.A.A.A19.A7.5B$7.2A3.B2.7B.2A.A.A
18.2A3.B2.6B.B2C$7.8B.5B2.A2.2A19.8B.7B2C$9.15B2A23.16B$9.15B2.2A21.
15B$8.16B2A2.A19.15B$6.18B.A.2A17.17B$4.18B3.A18.19B$4.2BC15B2.2A18.
2BC15B$3.3BCBC12B22.3BCBC12B$4.2B3C12B23.2B3C12B$3.5BC14B20.5BC14B$2.
22B18.22B$.4B10.9B17.4B10.9B$4B12.8B16.4B12.8B$3B12.7B19.2B12.7B$16.
6B18.3B13.6B$16.7B13.2A.2BA14.7B$15.8B13.A.2BA.A12.8B$15.7B15.A2.BA.A
11.7B$16.6B16.A4.A12.6B$16.7B12.3A5.2A11.7B$17.6B12.A21.6B$17.5B35.5B
$17.2B3D35.2B3D$18.BDB37.BDB$18.3D37.3D$19.B39.B!

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Re: The Hunting of the New Herschel Conduits

Post by HerscheltheHerschel » December 20th, 2023, 12:35 pm

G-to-H based on a G-to-R from Discord:

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x = 33, y = 65, rule = LifeSuper
17.2A.A$13.2A.A2.2A$13.A3.A$15.2A.2A.A$7.2A2.4A.A.A.2A$7.A2.A.A2.3B$
8.A.A.3B.B$9.A.A6B3.2A$10.AB.2B2EB3.A$13.2B2E6.A$12.5B2.5A$12.7BA$11.
7B4.2A$11.7B4.A$11.6B2.BA.A$11.7B.B2A$11.9B6.A$10.10B4.3A$5.2B2.11B3.
A$2.2B.17B.2A$.2A22B$.2AB.18B$2.B.9BC10B$5.9BC8B.B$6.6B3C11B$6.20B$7.
18B$8.5B2E10B$8.5B2E10B$9.15B2.B2E$10.17B2E3B$11.20B2A$11.20B2A$12.
17B.2B$13.15B$14.14B$14.13B$9.2A4.10B$8.A2.A3.10B$9.A.A4.8B$10.A5.8B$
15.8B$14.D8B$14.3D6B$15.D6B$17.3B7$A$3A$3.A$2.A.A$3.A3$4.2A$4.2A2$14.
3D$14.D$13.3D
Glider reflector based on it:

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x = 32, y = 78, rule = LifeSuper
16.2A.A$12.2A.A2.2A$12.A3.A$14.2A.2A.A$6.2A2.4A.A.A.2A$6.A2.A.A2.3B$
7.A.A.3B.B$8.A.A6B3.2A$9.AB.2B2EB3.A$12.2B2E6.A$11.5B2.5A$11.7BA$10.
7B4.2A$10.7B4.A$10.6B2.BA.A$10.7B.B2A$10.9B6.A$9.10B4.3A$4.2B2.11B3.A
$.2B.17B.2A$2A22B$2AB.18B$.B.9BC10B$4.9BC8B.B$5.6B3C11B$5.20B$6.18B$
7.5B2E10B$7.5B2E10B$8.15B2.B2E$9.17B2E3B$10.20B2A$10.20B2A$11.17B.2B$
12.15B$13.14B$13.13B$8.2A4.10B$7.A2.A3.10B$8.A.A4.8B$9.A5.8B$14.8B$
13.D8B$13.3D6B$14.D6B$16.3B12$16.3D$11.2D.D3.D$11.5D.D$12.4D2$12.3D$
12.3D$13.D$10.A$9.A.A$10.A.A$11.2A5.2A$18.2A5$10.2A$6.2A.A.A$6.A.2A.A
.A$12.2A!
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Re: The Hunting of the New Herschel Conduits

Post by EvinZL » December 21st, 2023, 5:15 pm

Elementary Rx140 with SE10T44 glider output

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x = 49, y = 50, rule = LifeHistory
15.2A$16.A$16.A.AB$17.2AB.2B$19.5B$18.6B$18.6B$18.7B$18.7B$11.4B2.9B$
10.17B$10.17B$10.18B$10.19B$8.22B$6.25B4.2A$6.2BC21B5.A$5.3BCBC19B2.B
A.A$6.2B3C20B.B2A$5.5BC22B$4.29B$3.4B.4B.20B$2.4B6.20B$.4B4.B.21B.2B$
4B4.2A26B$3B5.2A27BA.2A$2B7.B.24B2.2A.A$B11.23B$12.22B$14.18B$15.11B
3.4B$14.11B5.4B$12.2AB.11B4.4B$11.A.AB.6B3.2A5.4B$11.A4.6B3.A7.4B$10.
2A4.6B4.3A5.4B$15.7B6.A6.4B$15.6B7.A.2A4.4B$16.6B4.3A.2A5.4B$16.8B.A
12.4B$15.9BA.A12.4B$15.7B.2BAB13.4B$16.5B3.2B15.4B$16.3D2B2.2B17.4B$
17.BDB2.B2AB17.4B$17.3D3.2A19.4B$18.B26.4B$46.3B$47.2B$48.B!

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Re: The Hunting of the New Herschel Conduits

Post by dvgrn » December 21st, 2023, 5:29 pm

EvinZL wrote:
December 21st, 2023, 5:15 pm
Elementary Rx140 with SE10T44 glider output

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x = 49, y = 50, rule = LifeHistory
15.2A$16.A$16.A.AB$17.2AB.2B$19.5B$18.6B$18.6B$18.7B$18.7B$11.4B2.9B$
10.17B$10.17B$10.18B$10.19B$8.22B$6.25B4.2A$6.2BC21B5.A$5.3BCBC19B2.B
A.A$6.2B3C20B.B2A$5.5BC22B$4.29B$3.4B.4B.20B$2.4B6.20B$.4B4.B.21B.2B$
4B4.2A26B$3B5.2A27BA.2A$2B7.B.24B2.2A.A$B11.23B$12.22B$14.18B$15.11B
3.4B$14.11B5.4B$12.2AB.11B4.4B$11.A.AB.6B3.2A5.4B$11.A4.6B3.A7.4B$10.
2A4.6B4.3A5.4B$15.7B6.A6.4B$15.6B7.A.2A4.4B$16.6B4.3A.2A5.4B$16.8B.A
12.4B$15.9BA.A12.4B$15.7B.2BAB13.4B$16.5B3.2B15.4B$16.3D2B2.2B17.4B$
17.BDB2.B2AB17.4B$17.3D3.2A19.4B$18.B26.4B$46.3B$47.2B$48.B!
There's some prior art for Rx140, with a block instead of a snake near the glider output:

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x = 29, y = 46, rule = B3/S23
7b2o$8bo$8bobo$9b2o12$27b2o$o26bo$obo22bobo$3o22b2o$2bo5$2o$2o3$27b2o$
27b2o3$4b2o$3bobo11b2o$3bo13bo$2b2o14b3o$20bo$20bob2o$18b3ob2o$17bo$
16bobo$17bo3$15b2o$15b2o!
Looks like this was one of the Herschel-conduit-based glider outputs that never made it into the H-to-G collection.

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Re: The Hunting of the New Herschel Conduits

Post by Haycat2009 » December 31st, 2023, 10:25 pm

Where is the h conduit collection? (No rle files, please. A life viewer will do)
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Re: The Hunting of the New Herschel Conduits

Post by AlbertArmStain » December 31st, 2023, 10:41 pm

Haycat2009 wrote:
December 31st, 2023, 10:25 pm
Where is the h conduit collection? (No rle files, please. A life viewer will do)
Why do you need a life viewer version of a collection? I normally just copy and paste the RLE from the Golly clipboard to the code box here.

There is a few zips here that contain some h-to-h conduits but is missing some of the newer ones.

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Re: The Hunting of the New Herschel Conduits

Post by Jormungant » January 2nd, 2024, 12:41 pm

With an extra eater, a previously posted 4-lane shifter also becomes a XOR gate:

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x = 166, y = 71, rule = LifeHistory
6$8.D47.C47.C$9.2D46.2C46.2C$8.2D46.2C46.2C7$40.2A.A44.2A.A44.2A.A$
36.2A.A2.2A40.2A.A2.2A40.2A.A2.2A$36.A3.A43.A3.A43.A3.A$38.2A.2A.A41.
2A.2A.A41.2A.2A.A$30.2A2.4A.A.A.2A33.2A2.4A.A.A.2A33.2A2.4A.A.A.2A$
30.A2.A.A2.3B37.A2.A.A2.3B37.A2.A.A2.3B$31.A.A.3B.B39.A.A.3B.B39.A.A.
3B.B$32.A.A6B3.2A34.A.A6B3.2A34.A.A6B3.2A$33.AB.2B2EB3.A36.AB.2B2EB3.
A36.AB.2B2EB3.A$36.2B2E6.A37.2B2E6.A37.2B2E6.A$35.5B2.5A36.5B2.5A36.
5B2.5A$35.7BA40.7BA40.7BA$34.7B4.2A35.7B4.2A35.7B4.2A$34.7B4.A36.7B4.
A36.7B4.A$34.6B2.BA.A36.6B2.BA.A36.6B2.BA.A$34.7B.B2A37.7B.B2A37.7B.B
2A$34.9B6.A32.9B6.A32.9B6.A$33.10B4.3A31.10B4.3A31.10B4.3A$28.2B2.11B
3.A29.2B2.11B3.A29.2B2.11B3.A$25.2B.17B.2A25.2B.17B.2A25.2B.17B.2A$
24.2A22B24.2A22B24.2A22B$24.2AB.18B26.2AB.18B26.2AB.18B$25.B.9BC10B
26.B.9BD10B26.B.9BC10B$28.9BC8B.B28.9BD8B.B28.9BC8B.B$29.6B3C11B5.2A
21.6B3D11B5.2A21.6B3C11B5.2A$29.20B5.A22.20B5.A22.20B5.A$30.19B2.BA.A
23.19B2.BA.A23.19B2.BA.A$31.5B2A12B.B2A25.5B2A12B.B2A25.5B2A12B.B2A$
31.5B2A14B27.5B2A14B27.5B2A14B$32.19B29.19B29.19B$33.19B29.19B29.19B$
34.18B30.18B30.18B$34.19B29.19B29.19B$35.17B31.17B31.17B$36.17B31.17B
31.17B$37.17B31.17B31.17B$37.18B30.18B30.18B$39.12B.4B31.12B.4B31.12B
.4B$40.10B3.4B31.10B3.4B31.10B3.4B$40.7B7.4B30.7B7.4B30.7B7.4B$42.4B
9.4B31.4B9.4B31.4B9.4B$40.5B11.4B28.5B11.4B28.5B11.4B$40.2A15.4B27.2A
15.4B27.2A15.4B$41.A16.3B28.A16.3B28.A16.3B$38.3A45.3A45.3A$38.A47.A
47.A!

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Re: The Hunting of the New Herschel Conduits

Post by EvinZL » January 15th, 2024, 5:41 pm

Tawal wrote:
January 15th, 2024, 2:40 pm
Example of a mess : H to B + G + Tub

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x = 70, y = 68, rule = LifeHistory
7$35.2A$35.A$32.A4.A2.2A$32.5A.A2.A$18.2A16.B.2A.A.2A$19.A10.4AB3AB2.
A2.A$19.A.AB7.A2.A.A3B2A.A$20.2AB.3B4.7B2.A.2A$22.7B3.7B.A$22.16B.2A
14.2D$23.15B16.2B2D$22.16B15.2BDB$20.18B14.4B$18.19B14.4B$18.2BE15B
14.4B$17.3BEBE4B.7B6.2C6.4B$18.2B3E4B2.7B3.2B2CB4.4B$17.5BE4B2.9B.4B
4.4B$16.10B4.15B.4B$15.4B10.20B$15.3B11.19B$13.4B12.18B$13.2CB13.18B$
14.C13.20B$11.3C15.19B$11.C17.19B$30.17B$31.17B$34.14B$30.2B.15B$28.
19B$27.22B$24.2B.22B$21.23BD4B$20.2D21BDBD4B$19.2D23BD4B$20.2D27B$21.
D25B$25.22B$27.20B$27.15B3.2B.BC$28.3B3.6B4.BC2BC.C$28.3B5.3B5.C.C2BC
$29.B15.CB.B!
R292 + NE29T195, can be connected to any H conduit that deletes the first natural block

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x = 43, y = 58, rule = LifeHistory
24.2A$24.A$21.A4.A2.2A$21.5A.A2.A$7.2A16.B.2A.A.2A$8.A10.4AB3AB2.A2.A
$8.A.AB7.A2.A.A3B2A.A$9.2AB.3B4.7B2.A.2A$11.7B3.7B.A$11.16B.2A$12.15B
$11.16B15.B$9.18B14.2B$7.19B14.3B$7.2BC15B14.4B$6.3BCBC4B.7B6.2A6.4B$
7.2B3C4B2.7B3.2B2AB4.4B$6.5BC4B2.9B.4B4.4B$5.10B4.15B.4B$4.4B10.20B$
4.3B11.19B$2.4B12.18B$2.2CB13.18B$3.C13.20B$3C15.19B$C17.19B$19.17B$
20.17B$23.14B$19.B4.13B$17.19B$16.22B$16.22B$15.23B$15.24B$14.24B$13.
25B$14.22B$15.21B$17.19B$15.16B3.2B.BA$15.2A4.B.8B2.BA2BA.A$16.A7.8B.
A.A2BA$13.3A9.7B2.AB.B$13.A12.6B$26.2B3D2B$26.2BD4B$26.B3D4B.3B$26.
13B$26.14B$26.15B$27.14B$27.13B$26.14B$27.12B$29.3B2A3B$29.2BA2BAB$
31.B2A!

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Re: The Hunting of the New Herschel Conduits

Post by Jormungant » January 15th, 2024, 6:52 pm

h-to-h derived from that tub factory...

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x = 54, y = 67, rule = LifeHistory
$31.2A$31.A$28.A4.A2.2A$28.5A.A2.A$14.2A16.B.2A.A.2A$15.A10.4AB3AB2.A
2.A$15.A.AB7.A2.A.A3B2A.A$16.2AB.3B4.7B2.A.2A13.B$18.7B3.7B.A15.2B$
18.16B.2A14.2DB$19.15B16.2B2D$18.16B15.2BDB$16.18B14.4B$14.19B14.4B$
14.2BC15B14.4B$13.3BCBC4B.7B6.2A6.4B$14.2B3C4B2.7B3.2B2AB4.4B$13.5BC
4B2.9B.4B4.4B$12.10B4.15B.4B$11.4B10.20B$10.4B11.19B$9.4B12.18B$8.4B
13.18B$7.4B13.20B$25.19B$25.19B$26.17B$27.17B$30.14B$26.2B.15B$24.19B
$2.8B13.22B$2.11B2.2B3.2B.22B$2.7BD35B$3.4BDBD36B$3.4B3D35B$3.4BD37B$
4.39B$11.4B.27B$12.4B.26B$13.25B3.2B.BA$13.23B4.BA2BA.A$13.22B5.A.A2B
A$12.21B8.AB.B$11.23B$10.2A9BD12B$10.2A10BD8B2.B2A$11.9B3D5B5.BA.A$
12.16B8.A$12.18B6.2A$13.8B2A9B.2A.A$12.8BA2BA8BA.A.A.A$11.10BABA7B.BA
3.2A$11.11BA8B$12.18B$12.17B$11.17B$9.A.2AB.14B$7.3AB2AB5.B2.B2.B2AB$
6.A4.B6.3B5.2A$7.3A.2A5.B2AB$9.A.A7.2A$9.A.A$10.A!
but the repeat time is 317 ...

That trafic-light + boat is a E precursor, so that's a H-to-E, not sure if it was noted before:

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x = 62, y = 44, rule = LifeHistory
7$26.2A$26.A$23.A4.A2.2A$23.5A.A2.A$9.2A16.B.2A.A.2A$10.A10.4AB3AB2.A
2.A$10.A.AB7.A2.A.A3B2A.A$11.2AB.3B4.7B2.A.2A$13.7B3.7B.A$13.16B.2A
14.2D$14.15B16.2B2D$13.16B15.2BDB$11.18B14.4B$9.19B14.4B$9.2BC15B14.
4B$8.3BCBC4B.7B6.2C6.4B$9.2B3C4B2.7B3.2B2CB4.4B$8.5BC4B2.9B.4B4.4B$7.
10B4.15B.4B$6.4B10.20B$6.3B11.19B$4.4B12.18B$4.2CB13.18B$5.C13.20B$2.
3C15.19B$2.C17.4B$21.3B$22.2B2$21.2B$19.5B$18.6B$18.2B3DB$17.2B2D3B$
17.3B2D2B!
After some digging, that gives the following two h-to-g

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x = 113, y = 63, rule = LifeHistory
5$32.2A$32.A$29.A4.A2.2A$29.5A.A2.A50.2A$15.2A16.B.2A.A.2A47.A$16.A
10.4AB3AB2.A2.A44.A4.A2.2A$16.A.AB7.A2.A.A3B2A.A46.5A.A2.A$17.2AB.3B
4.7B2.A.2A31.2A16.B.2A.A.2A$19.7B3.7B.A35.A10.4AB3AB2.A2.A$19.16B.2A
35.A.AB7.A2.A.A3B2A.A$20.15B39.2AB.3B4.7B2.A.2A$19.16B41.7B3.7B.A$17.
18B41.16B.2A$15.19B43.15B$15.2BC15B43.16B$14.3BCBC4B.7B6.2C34.18B$15.
2B3C4B2.7B3.2B2CB31.19B$14.5BC4B2.9B.4B32.2BC15B$13.10B4.15B29.3BCBC
4B.7B6.2C$12.4B10.16B30.2B3C4B2.7B3.2B2CB$12.3B11.16B29.5BC4B2.9B.4B$
10.4B12.17B27.10B4.15B$10.2CB13.18B25.4B10.16B$11.C13.20B24.3B11.16B$
8.3C15.19B22.4B12.17B$8.C17.19B22.2CB13.18B$27.17B24.C13.20B$28.17B
20.3C15.19B$31.14B20.C17.19B$27.2B3.13B39.17B$25.19B41.17B$24.22B42.
14B$23.3B3D17B38.2B3.13B$21.4B2D19B36.19B$21.5B2D2BDBD14B34.22B$17.2B
.11B2D13B35.2B3D17B$16.2A13BD.13B34.2B2D19B$16.2AB.24B33.6B2D19B$17.B
2.2A21B33.2A25B$19.BABA20B33.2A25B$19.2BA7B.9B2.B35.24B$19.6B6.7B41.
21B$19.5B9.3B.B43.19B$20.4B56.6B.9B2.B$22.B56.6B3.6B$75.A2.A.2A8.5B$
75.4A.A11.3BD$80.A.A10.DBD$77.2A2.2A11.2D$77.A$78.A$77.2A!

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Re: The Hunting of the New Herschel Conduits

Post by Tawal » January 15th, 2024, 7:29 pm

Jormungant wrote:
January 15th, 2024, 6:52 pm
h-to-h derived from that tub factory...

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rle removed
but the repeat time is 317 ...
Thanks to resolve my problem.
I'm not sure I can do this.
There's others possibilities if the leftover eater can be replaced with other clearance lane for gilder.
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