I didn't know about the loaf, but the only boat I know of blocks the incoming B.Sokwe wrote:The boat and loaf variants of the R->B work equally well here. Unfortunately, the only B->X that connects to the output seems to be BBx187H. Even this only works in a limited number of cases. e.g.,A for awesome wrote:A possibly new H-to-B:Actually an H-to-R, but there is only one connection that I know of.Code: Select all

`x = 30, y = 29, rule = LifeHistory 15.C$13.3C$12.C$7.2C3.2C15.C$5.2B2CB3.B13.3C$5.4B4.4B9.C$5.15B6.2C$.B 3.16B2.5B$2CB.22B$2C23B2C$.B.22B2C$4.20B.B$5.19B$5.18B$6.16B$6.15B$5. 19B$4.2C17BDB$4.2CB.16BD$5.B2.16B2D$10.11B3CD$11.11BCDB$12.B2.5B3C2B$ 14.3B2.6B$13.C2.CB.7B$13.4C4.B.4B$24.4B$13.2C10.4B$13.2C11.4B!`

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`x = 80, y = 58, rule = LifeHistory 51.2A$B49.B2AB$2B49.2B$3B47.2B$4B38.2A5.4B$.4B36.B2AB2.10B$2.4B29.A2B 4.15B$3.4B27.ABAB5.13B2A$4.4B26.A2BAB2.15B2A$5.4B26.2A2B2.14B.B$6.4B 26.19B$7.4B7.A7.2A9.4BD13B$8.4B6.3A6.A9.4B3D11B2.2A$9.4B8.A5.A.AB6.5B D14BA.A$10.4B6.2A6.A.AB.B3.19B3.A$11.4B5.6B3.A3B2A3.18B3.2A$12.4B6.5B .3B.B2A2.19B$13.4B4.9B3.B4.17B$14.4B2.11B7.17B$15.18B2.20B$16.22BD15B $12.2A3.21BDBD4B.7B$13.A4.20B3D4B2.6B$13.A.AB.21B2D2BDB3.6B$14.2A24B 3D2B5.4B$15.17B.5B.2BD4B3.B2A2B$17.30B3.2A.B2A$8.A10.16B.12B5.BA.A$8. 3A8.15B3.12B7.A$11.A7.14B5.7B.4B6.2A$10.2A3.B3.13B7.6B2.4B$10.8B.12B 8.7B2.4B$12.18B9.7B3.4B$12.17B10.8B.6B22.B$11.17B11.16B20.3D$9.18B12. 17B19.BDB$7.19B13.18B17.2B3D$7.2BE15B15.18B16.5B$6.3BEBE4B.9B17.11B. 4B14.7B$7.2B3E4B2.7B17.13B.4B5.2A5.8B$6.5BE4B4.5B16.20B3.B2AB3.8B$5. 10B3.5B16.B.21B3.3B2.9B$4.4B10.2A15.2A.2A23B3.B2.4B.6B$4.3B12.A16.A.A .B.30B.7B$2.4B10.3A15.A.A.A.A38B$2.2A12.A17.2A3.2A.B.35B$3.A39.32B2A 3B$3A40.32B2A2B$A41.36B$40.A35B$38.3A2.7B.22B2.2B$37.A5.7B3.7B.8B.2B 2.B2AB$37.2A4.7B4.5B5.6B5.2A$43.5B6.4B8.4B$41.2AB.2B7.4B7.B2A2B$40.A. AB10.B2AB8.2A$40.A14.2A$39.2A!`

## The Hunting of the New Herschel Conduits

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### Re: The Hunting of the New Herschel Conduits

x₁=ηx

V ⃰_η=c²√(Λη)

K=(Λu²)/2

Pₐ=1−1/(∫^∞_t₀(p(t)ˡ⁽ᵗ⁾)dt)

$$x_1=\eta x$$

$$V^*_\eta=c^2\sqrt{\Lambda\eta}$$

$$K=\frac{\Lambda u^2}2$$

$$P_a=1-\frac1{\int^\infty_{t_0}p(t)^{l(t)}dt}$$

http://conwaylife.com/wiki/A_for_all

Aidan F. Pierce

V ⃰_η=c²√(Λη)

K=(Λu²)/2

Pₐ=1−1/(∫^∞_t₀(p(t)ˡ⁽ᵗ⁾)dt)

$$x_1=\eta x$$

$$V^*_\eta=c^2\sqrt{\Lambda\eta}$$

$$K=\frac{\Lambda u^2}2$$

$$P_a=1-\frac1{\int^\infty_{t_0}p(t)^{l(t)}dt}$$

http://conwaylife.com/wiki/A_for_all

Aidan F. Pierce

### Re: The Hunting of the New Herschel Conduits

The boat seems to work in this example:A for awesome wrote:the only boat I know of blocks the incoming B.

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```
x = 80, y = 58, rule = LifeHistory
51.2A$B49.B2AB$2B49.2B$3B47.2B$4B38.2A5.4B$.4B36.B2AB2.10B$2.4B36.15B
$3.4B36.13B2A$4.4B15.2A16.15B2A$5.4B15.A16.14B.B$6.4B14.A.AB12.15B$7.
4B7.A6.A.AB.B8.2BD13B$8.4B6.3A5.A3B2A6.3B3D11B2.2A$9.4B8.A3.3B.B2A7.
3BD14BA.A$10.4B6.2A3.2B3.B8.17B3.A$11.4B5.8B6.2A.19B3.2A$12.4B6.7B5.A
.A19B$13.4B4.9B5.AB.17B$14.4B2.11B7.17B$15.18B2.20B$16.22BD15B$12.2A
3.21BDBD4B.7B$13.A4.20B3D4B2.6B$13.A.AB.21B2D2BDB3.6B$14.2A24B3D2B5.
4B$15.17B.5B.2BD4B3.B2A2B$17.30B3.2A.B2A$8.A10.16B.12B5.BA.A$8.3A8.
15B3.12B7.A$11.A7.14B5.7B.4B6.2A$10.2A3.B3.13B7.6B2.4B$10.8B.12B8.7B
2.4B$12.18B9.7B3.4B$12.17B10.8B.6B22.B$11.17B11.16B20.3D$9.18B12.17B
19.BDB$7.19B13.18B17.2B3D$7.2BE15B15.18B16.5B$6.3BEBE4B.9B17.11B.4B
14.7B$7.2B3E4B2.7B17.13B.4B5.2A5.8B$6.5BE4B4.5B16.20B3.B2AB3.8B$5.10B
3.5B16.B.21B3.3B2.9B$4.4B10.2A15.2A.2A23B3.B2.4B.6B$4.3B12.A16.A.A.B.
30B.7B$2.4B10.3A15.A.A.A.A38B$2.2A12.A17.2A3.2A.B.35B$3.A39.32B2A3B$
3A40.32B2A2B$A41.36B$40.A35B$38.3A2.7B.22B2.2B$37.A5.7B3.7B.8B.2B2.B
2AB$37.2A4.7B4.5B5.6B5.2A$43.5B6.4B8.4B$41.2AB.2B7.4B7.B2A2B$40.A.AB
10.B2AB8.2A$40.A14.2A$39.2A!
```

-Matthias Merzenich

### Re: The Hunting of the New Herschel Conduits

A new Bellman result for the R-pentomino allows, uh, this:

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```
x = 39, y = 40, rule = LifeHistory
12.A$11.A.A$11.A.A4.A$9.3A.2A3.3A$8.A4.B7.A$9.3AB2A5.2A$11.A.2A.B3.6B
$13.5B4.5B$14.5B2.6B$14.13B$10.B3.13B$8.19B$4.22B$2.24B$.26B$2.26B$2.
27B$.D23B.4B$2D23B2.4B$.2DB.B.B.16B3.4B$9.16B4.4B$8.21B.4B$7.29B$8.
29BD$10.5B2C18B3DB$12.4B2C17BDBD$13.3BC18BD$14.10B4.2B2.2B$14.10B$14.
6B$15.5B$14.4B.B$13.4BA4B$13.2ABABA.2A$14.ABA.A.A$14.A.A.A2.3A$15.2A.
A4.A$17.A$17.A.A$18.2A!
```

Tanner Jacobi

- A for awesome
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### Re: The Hunting of the New Herschel Conduits

Sorry, that's because I was stupid and didn't actually check with the live objects.Sokwe wrote:The boat seems to work in this example:A for awesome wrote:the only boat I know of blocks the incoming B.Code: Select all

`rle`

x₁=ηx

V ⃰_η=c²√(Λη)

K=(Λu²)/2

Pₐ=1−1/(∫^∞_t₀(p(t)ˡ⁽ᵗ⁾)dt)

$$x_1=\eta x$$

$$V^*_\eta=c^2\sqrt{\Lambda\eta}$$

$$K=\frac{\Lambda u^2}2$$

$$P_a=1-\frac1{\int^\infty_{t_0}p(t)^{l(t)}dt}$$

http://conwaylife.com/wiki/A_for_all

Aidan F. Pierce

V ⃰_η=c²√(Λη)

K=(Λu²)/2

Pₐ=1−1/(∫^∞_t₀(p(t)ˡ⁽ᵗ⁾)dt)

$$x_1=\eta x$$

$$V^*_\eta=c^2\sqrt{\Lambda\eta}$$

$$K=\frac{\Lambda u^2}2$$

$$P_a=1-\frac1{\int^\infty_{t_0}p(t)^{l(t)}dt}$$

http://conwaylife.com/wiki/A_for_all

Aidan F. Pierce

- Extrementhusiast
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### Re: The Hunting of the New Herschel Conduits

Meanwhile, a very different C-to-Pi:
This C-to-G is also possible:
Also, perhaps we should look for Pi-to-Xs with a certain transparent block:

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```
x = 32, y = 29, rule = LifeHistory
10.A$9.A.A4.2A3.A$9.A.A5.A2.A.A$A7.2A.2A2.A4.A.A$3A12.5A.A$3.A4.2A.4A
4.A$2.2A4.2A.A2.A.A3.A$15.A.A3.A$16.A3.2A5$25.2A$6.3C15.A.A$5.C2.C15.
2A$5.2C21.2A$28.A.A$30.A$30.2A7$9.D.D$9.D.D$9.3D!
```

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```
x = 24, y = 28, rule = LifeHistory
10.A$9.A.A$9.A.A$A7.2A.3A$3A11.A$3.A4.2A.3A$2.2A4.2A.A2$22.2A$22.A$
20.A.A$20.2A3$6.3C$5.C2.C$5.2C10$12.2A$12.2A!
```

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```
x = 123, y = 25, rule = LifeHistory
118.A$15.2A99.3A$15.2A59.2A37.A6.A$76.2A37.2A3.3A$119.A$4.2C16.2A45.
2C3.4A34.2C5.2A$4.2C16.A46.2C3.A2.A34.2C$20.A.A$20.2A2$3D62.3D40.3D7.
2C$D64.D12.2C28.D8.2C$3D62.3D9.2C29.3D7.2C$78.C40.C8$8.3C7.2A$9.C8.A.
A$9.3C8.A$20.2A!
```

I Like My Heisenburps! (and others)

- A for awesome
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### Re: The Hunting of the New Herschel Conduits

I think this is a new H-to-G, SW18?T140? (I'm not sure where the zero-points are):

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```
x = 29, y = 35, rule = LifeHistory
6.A$5.A.A$5.A.A$3.3A.2A$2.A4.B$3.3AB2AB4.3B$5.A.2AB.2B.4B$9.9B$9.9B$
9.10B$9.10B$9.10B2.2A$7.12B2.A.A.2A$7.12B4.A.A$7.13B2.2A.A$8.11B.4B.A
.2A$9.13B4A2.A$8.12B.BAB2.2A$6.16B.3A$5.18B2.A$5.17B3.A.A$6.16B4.2A$
5.16B$3.18B$.21B$.2BC19B$3BCBC4B.7B2.4B$.2B3C4B2.6B3.4B$5BC4B3.6B3.4B
$9B6.4B4.4B$2B12.B2A2B5.4B$B14.2A.B2A4.4B$18.BA.A4.3B$21.A5.2B$21.2A
5.B!
```

x₁=ηx

V ⃰_η=c²√(Λη)

K=(Λu²)/2

Pₐ=1−1/(∫^∞_t₀(p(t)ˡ⁽ᵗ⁾)dt)

$$x_1=\eta x$$

$$V^*_\eta=c^2\sqrt{\Lambda\eta}$$

$$K=\frac{\Lambda u^2}2$$

$$P_a=1-\frac1{\int^\infty_{t_0}p(t)^{l(t)}dt}$$

http://conwaylife.com/wiki/A_for_all

Aidan F. Pierce

V ⃰_η=c²√(Λη)

K=(Λu²)/2

Pₐ=1−1/(∫^∞_t₀(p(t)ˡ⁽ᵗ⁾)dt)

$$x_1=\eta x$$

$$V^*_\eta=c^2\sqrt{\Lambda\eta}$$

$$K=\frac{\Lambda u^2}2$$

$$P_a=1-\frac1{\int^\infty_{t_0}p(t)^{l(t)}dt}$$

http://conwaylife.com/wiki/A_for_all

Aidan F. Pierce

### Re: The Hunting of the New Herschel Conduits

HSE19T106, actually.A for awesome wrote:I think this is a new H-to-G, SW18?T140? (I'm not sure where the zero-points are):Code: Select all

`rle`

And I'm pretty sure I don't have one of those in the collection. Same mod-8 timing as the last compound H->G (SE19T42).

"What's purple and commutes?

The Evanston Express."

The Evanston Express."

- gmc_nxtman
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### Re: The Hunting of the New Herschel Conduits

Pretty sure it's actually a HSE19T134.

### Re: The Hunting of the New Herschel Conduits

No. The timings are measured from when the (proleptic) output glider crosses the vertical line through the initial object. In this case, the glider forms at 134 ticks, but it is 7fd to the east of this line. 134-(4*7)=106, and that's the timing.gmc_nxtman wrote:Pretty sure it's actually a HSE19T134.

"What's purple and commutes?

The Evanston Express."

The Evanston Express."

### Re: The Hunting of the New Herschel Conduits

Yeah, thunk has it right -- HSE19T106. It's probably safer not to calculate the statistics manually at all. The H-to-G analyzer script is right about what name should be assigned, pretty much by definition, unless someone finds a bug in the code.gmc_nxtman wrote:Pretty sure it's actually a HSE19T134.

You can select an H-to-G and run the script from the clipboard. The only caveat is that at the moment you have to have run something like pop-plot.py since the last time you opened Golly, so that Golly has the glife module already loaded. Golly doesn't know where to find the glife module when it's starting from clipboard.py stored in one of Golly's temporary file locations.

I should really patch the recognizer script to remove that annoying dependency. Will put it on the short To-Do list.

**EDIT:**Done. If anyone sees any errors when running H-to-Gstats16November2015.py, please let me know.

-- That "H-to-G converter collection" thread is still a good place to put new H-to-Gs, by the way. This thread is already pretty long, and H-to-Gs seem to turn up several times more often than other X-to-Y conduits.

### Re: The Hunting of the New Herschel Conduits

No conduit today, but an odd Spartan catalyst (from Bellman) for the back of an R-pentomino:

It works for the natural R pointing the "wrong way" during the Herschel's evolution. I've also seen a few R-pentominoes pointing the wrong way when trying to make conduits, so this might be useful for perturbations somewhere.

It may be a little unwieldy because of the pseudo eater-on-ship, but at least it's the "easy" orientation.

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```
x = 13, y = 10, rule = B3/S23
6bo$5b3o$7bo3$6b2o3bo$3bobobo2bobo$b3ob2o4bo$o$2o!
```

It may be a little unwieldy because of the pseudo eater-on-ship, but at least it's the "easy" orientation.

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```
x = 30, y = 13, rule = B3/S23
27bobo$27b2o$28bo2$26b2o$26b2o2$7bo$5b2o19bo$3bo2b2o15bobobo$b3o17b3ob
2o$o19bo$2o18b2o!
```

Tanner Jacobi

- Extrementhusiast
**Posts:**1797**Joined:**June 16th, 2009, 11:24 pm**Location:**USA

### Re: The Hunting of the New Herschel Conduits

I'm not exactly sure what to call it, but whatever it is, it looks pretty useful:

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```
x = 97, y = 67, rule = LifeHistory
42.2A$42.2A11.2A$54.A.A$55.A9$46.2D$45.3D$46.3D$46.2D7.2A$55.2A3$51.C
$50.3C$50.C.2C$43.2A$43.2A16$5.2A35.2A35.2A$4.B2AB10.2A21.B2AB10.2A
21.B2AB10.2A$4.5B8.A.A21.5B8.A.A21.5B8.A.A$5.5B7.BA23.5B7.BA23.5B7.BA
$5.6B7.2B22.6B7.2B22.6B7.2B$6.6B5.4B22.6B5.4B22.6B5.4B$A.A4.15B15.A.A
4.15B15.A.A4.15B$.2A4.15B16.2A4.15B16.2A4.15B$.A5.16B15.A5.16B15.A5.
16B$7.16B21.16B21.16B$7.16B21.16B21.16B$6.16B21.16B21.16B$6.3B2C10B
22.3BCD10B22.3B2D10B$7.BC2D9B24.BD2C9B24.B3D9B$7.2B2DC8B24.2B2CD8B24.
2B3D8B$6.3B2C7B2A23.3BDC7B2A23.3B2D7B2A$7.11B2A24.11B2A24.11B2A$8.11B
26.11B26.11B$10.8B29.8B29.8B$11.3BD3B30.3BD3B30.3BD3B$11.2B3D2B30.2B
3D2B30.2B3D2B$7.B3.2BDB2DB26.B3.2BDB2DB26.B3.2BDB2DB$6.2AB.9B24.2AB.
9B24.2AB.9B$6.2A10B25.2A10B25.2A10B$7.2B.8B26.2B.8B26.2B.8B$10.8B29.
8B29.8B$14.4B33.4B33.4B$15.B36.B36.B!
```

I Like My Heisenburps! (and others)

### Re: The Hunting of the New Herschel Conduits

Huh. A parity-testing toad-switch! ... or something like that. It does look useful, but my imagination is failing me when it comes to specifics.Extrementhusiast wrote:I'm not exactly sure what to call it, but whatever it is, it looks pretty useful...

I suppose it could allow incoming data, in the form of a stream of gliders, to be pre-tested before being sent into P2 circuitry, if we actually had enough P2 circuitry to make it anything but a bother to do that. Or, possibly more interesting, we could use it to retrieve parity information from the glider stream, and use some other variation in the relative timing of the gliders to store a completely independent series of bits.

It's a little tricky to get the "completely independent" part to work in practice, though. Really it's much easier to just send two gliders in series or in parallel, through regular boring old P1 circuits.

### Re: The Hunting of the New Herschel Conduits

Very compact nonspartan B-to-B:

EDIT: Spartan backwards H-to-B.

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```
x = 24, y = 24, rule = LifeHistory
4$12.A$11.A.A$10.A.A.A$10.A3.A$8.2A.3A$7.A.A.A$6.A.A2B$6.BA.B$7.5B$6.
8B$4.B.7B2D$3.A5BC4B2D$2.A.A3B3C2B2D$3.AB2.BCB2CBD$7.6B$8.4B$9.2B!
```

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```
x = 26, y = 24, rule = LifeHistory
22.A$20.3A$19.A$19.2A$17.4B$16.3B$15.5B$12.9B$11.11B$11.5BD4B2.BA$12.
3B2D6BA.A$11.3B2D8B2A$9.6B2D6B$7.17B2A$7.2BC11B.BA.A$6.3BCBC4B.3B3.BA
$7.2B3C4B2.B$6.5BC4B$5.10B$4.4B$3.4B$2.4B$.4B$4B!
```

Last edited by Kazyan on November 18th, 2015, 11:03 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Tanner Jacobi

- BlinkerSpawn
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### Re: The Hunting of the New Herschel Conduits

Slightly less complicated catalyst:

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```
x = 14, y = 16, rule = LifeHistory
9.2A$8.A.A$8.A$6.2A.4A$5.A.A.A2.A$4.A.A2B$4.BA.B$5.5B$4.8B$2.B.7B2D$.
A5BC4B2D$A.A3B3C2B2D$.AB2.BCB2CBD$5.6B$6.4B$7.2B!
```

- A for awesome
**Posts:**1901**Joined:**September 13th, 2014, 5:36 pm**Location:**0x-1-
**Contact:**

### Re: The Hunting of the New Herschel Conduits

It seems like there should be some way to get a signal out of this:

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```
x = 10, y = 10, rule = LifeHistory
7.C$6.C.C$7.C4$7.C$6.3C$2C3.2C2.C$2C!
```

V ⃰_η=c²√(Λη)

K=(Λu²)/2

Pₐ=1−1/(∫^∞_t₀(p(t)ˡ⁽ᵗ⁾)dt)

$$x_1=\eta x$$

$$V^*_\eta=c^2\sqrt{\Lambda\eta}$$

$$K=\frac{\Lambda u^2}2$$

$$P_a=1-\frac1{\int^\infty_{t_0}p(t)^{l(t)}dt}$$

http://conwaylife.com/wiki/A_for_all

Aidan F. Pierce

- Extrementhusiast
**Posts:**1797**Joined:**June 16th, 2009, 11:24 pm**Location:**USA

### Re: The Hunting of the New Herschel Conduits

R-to-glider:
Some sort of signal could also potentially be gotten from the front end.

EDIT: P110 gun showcasing a periodic B110:
Although for a single Herschel, it requires something more like this:
Also, a relatively iffy R-to-B:

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```
x = 16, y = 30, rule = LifeHistory
2.A$2.3A$5.A$4.2A14$8.C$7.3C$7.C2$12.2A$12.A.A$14.A$2.2A10.2A$3.A$3A
6.2A$A8.A$10.3A$12.A!
```

EDIT: P110 gun showcasing a periodic B110:

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```
x = 43, y = 50, rule = B3/S23
29bo$28bobo$29bo$41b2o$15b2o24b2o$15b2o2$3b2o$3bobob2obo$5bobob2o$4b2o
bo$7bo$8b2o$4bo5bo$3bobo3b3o$4bo5bo$8b2o$7bo$4b2obo16b3o$5bobob2o12bo
3bo$3bobob2obo17bo$3b2o29b2o$23b2o3bo5bo$25b3o7b3o$37bo$5bo$5b3o7b3o$
8bo5bo3b2o$7b2o29b2o$14bo17bob2obobo$15bo3bo12b2obobo$16b3o16bob2o$35b
o$33b2o$32bo5bo$31b3o3bobo$32bo5bo$33b2o$35bo$35bob2o$32b2obobo$32bob
2obobo$38b2o2$26b2o$2o24b2o$2o$13bo$12bobo$13bo!
```

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```
x = 57, y = 52, rule = B3/S23
47b2o$36bo10b2o$35bobo$36bo10b4o$46bo4bobo$22b2o22b2o2b2ob3o$22b2o32bo
$50b2ob3o$10b2o38b2obo$10bobob2obo$12bobob2o$11b2obo$14bo$15b2o33b2o$
11bo5bo32bobo$10bobo3b3o33bo$11bo5bo34b2o$15b2o$14bo$11b2obo16b3o$12bo
bob2o12bo3bo$10bobob2obo17bo$10b2o29b2o$30b2o3bo5bo$32b3o7b3o$44bo$12b
o$12b3o$15bo$14b2o29b2o$39bob2obobo$39b2obobo$42bob2o$42bo$40b2o$3b2o
34bo5bo$4bo33b3o3bobo$4bobo32bo5bo$5b2o33b2o$42bo$42bob2o$39b2obobo$
39bob2obobo$3bob2o38b2o$b3ob2o$o32b2o$b3ob2o2b2o22b2o$3bobo4bo$6b4o10b
o$19bobo$8b2o10bo$8b2o!
```

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```
x = 24, y = 21, rule = LifeHistory
A$3A$3.A$2.2A3$22.2A$22.2A5$18.C$17.3C.2D$17.C4.2D$21.2D$21.D3$15.2A$
15.2A!
```

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- A for awesome
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### Re: The Hunting of the New Herschel Conduits

What appears to be a new R-to-G, given that there appear to be no drifter catalyses in the conduit collection:

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```
x = 22, y = 22, rule = LifeHistory
6.2C$3.2C2.C$.3C.2C6.2C$C4.B7.C.C2.2C$.3CB2C8.C3.C$3.C.2C4.4C.3C$5.4B
2.C2.C.C$7.2B3.B.CBCB3C$5.5B.4B2CBC2.C$5.13B2.2C$4.14B$3.14B$3.B2C12B
$3.2B2C10B$3.2BC13B$3.10B4.2C$3.10B4.C$4.9B5.3C$5.2B3.4B6.C$4.4B3.4B$
4.B2CB4.4B$5.2C6.4B!
```

V ⃰_η=c²√(Λη)

K=(Λu²)/2

Pₐ=1−1/(∫^∞_t₀(p(t)ˡ⁽ᵗ⁾)dt)

$$x_1=\eta x$$

$$V^*_\eta=c^2\sqrt{\Lambda\eta}$$

$$K=\frac{\Lambda u^2}2$$

$$P_a=1-\frac1{\int^\infty_{t_0}p(t)^{l(t)}dt}$$

http://conwaylife.com/wiki/A_for_all

Aidan F. Pierce

- Extrementhusiast
**Posts:**1797**Joined:**June 16th, 2009, 11:24 pm**Location:**USA

### Re: The Hunting of the New Herschel Conduits

A possible start for an R-to-LWSS:
It looks to me like the block will have to be made transparent.

EDIT: Found a way to let the FNG through for a P220 gun:
The P110 gun has a three-way tie for smallest stabilization (in terms of area):
Apparently, these are new size records for guns of these periods (admittedly, not by that much).

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```
x = 19, y = 19, rule = LifeHistory
9.A$8.A.A$8.A.A$7.2A.2A$7.A$8.A.2A$6.A.A.2A$A.2A.A.A$2A.A.A$3.A.A$3.
2A2$6.2A$6.2A3$16.2C$17.2C$17.C!
```

EDIT: Found a way to let the FNG through for a P220 gun:

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```
x = 58, y = 50, rule = LifeHistory
38.A8.2A4.A$37.A.A7.A.A2.A.A$38.A10.4A2.A$48.A4.A.A$24.2A22.2A2.2A.2A
$24.2A30.A$52.2A.A$12.2A38.2A.A.A$12.A.A.2A.A36.2A$14.A.A.2A$13.2A.A$
15.2A$17.2A33.2A$13.A3.A2.A31.A.A$12.A.A3.A.A33.A$13.A3.A2.A33.2A$17.
2A$15.2A$13.2A.A$14.A.A.2A$12.A.A.2A.A$12.2A29.2A$43.A$44.3A$46.A$14.
A$14.3A$17.A6.2A$16.2A5.A.A21.2A$8.A16.A15.A.2A.A.A$7.A.A11.A19.2A.A.
A$7.A.A10.A23.A.2A$5.3A.2A9.A2.2A19.2A$4.A16.3A18.2A$5.3A.2A11.A17.A
2.A3.A$7.A.2A29.A.A3.A.A$40.A2.A3.A$2A40.2A$.A42.2A$.A.A40.A.2A$2.2A
37.2A.A.A$6.2A33.A.2A.A.A$5.A.A39.2A$5.2A$35.2A$35.2A2$8.A13.A$7.A13.
A.A$7.3A12.A!
```

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```
x = 52, y = 186, rule = LifeHistory
35.A$34.A.A$35.A$47.2A$21.2A25.A$20.A2.A12.3A$21.2A12.A3.2A$9.2A23.A
5.A$9.A.A.2A.A8.2A7.A4.A9.A.A$11.A.A.2A8.A.A9.A7.A5.A$10.2A.A11.A.2A
8.A9.A3.A$11.3A8.6A8.A10.A2.A$14.2A5.A4.A21.A$10.A3.A6.A2.A9.2A$9.A.A
2.2A.2A3.2A11.A$10.A3.A$14.2A$11.3A$10.2A.A$11.A.A.2A$9.A.A.2A.A$9.2A
29.2A$40.A$41.3A$43.A$11.A$11.3A$14.A$13.2A29.2A$38.A.2A.A.A$38.2A.A.
A$41.A.2A$41.3A$39.2A$2.2A36.A3.A$3.A15.A11.2A3.2A.2A2.A.A$3.A.A13.2A
9.A2.A6.A3.A$4.2A22.A4.A5.2A$18.A8.6A8.3A$17.A8.2A.A11.A.2A$17.A9.A.A
8.2A.A.A$2A13.A4.A7.2A8.A.2A.A.A$A.A.2A8.A5.A23.2A$2.A.2A8.2A3.A12.2A
$.A14.3A12.A2.A$.2A.2A26.2A$2.A.A$2.A.A14.A$3.A14.A.A$19.A21$35.A$34.
A.A$35.A$47.2A$21.2A25.A$20.A2.A12.3A$21.2A12.A3.2A$9.2A23.A5.A$9.A.A
.2A.A8.2A7.A4.A9.A.A$11.A.A.2A8.A.A9.A7.A5.A$10.2A.A11.A.2A8.A9.A3.A$
11.3A8.6A8.A10.A2.A$14.2A5.A4.A21.A$10.A3.A6.A2.A9.2A$9.A.A2.2A.2A3.
2A11.A$10.A3.A$14.2A$11.3A$10.2A.A$11.A.A.2A$9.A.A.2A.A$9.2A29.2A$40.
A$41.3A$43.A$11.A$11.3A$14.A$13.2A29.2A$38.A.2A.A.A$38.2A.A.A$41.A.2A
$41.3A$39.2A$2A38.A3.A$.A17.A11.2A3.2A.2A2.A.A$.A.A15.2A9.A2.A6.A3.A$
2.2A24.A4.A5.2A$7.A10.A8.6A8.3A$7.A9.A8.2A.A11.A.2A$9.A7.A9.A.A8.2A.A
.A$8.3A4.A4.A7.2A8.A.2A.A.A$2.2A4.A.A3.A5.A23.2A$.A.A3.2A5.2A3.A12.2A
$.A6.2A6.3A12.A2.A$2A6.2A22.2A$8.A.A$9.A9.A$18.A.A$19.A17$35.A$34.A.A
$35.A$47.2A$21.2A25.A$20.A2.A12.3A$21.2A12.A3.2A$9.2A23.A5.A$9.A.A.2A
.A8.2A7.A4.A9.A.A$11.A.A.2A8.A.A9.A7.A5.A$10.2A.A11.A.2A8.A9.A3.A$11.
3A8.6A8.A10.A2.A$14.2A5.A4.A21.A$10.A3.A6.A2.A9.2A$9.A.A2.2A.2A3.2A
11.A$10.A3.A$14.2A$11.3A$10.2A.A$11.A.A.2A$9.A.A.2A.A$9.2A29.2A$40.A$
41.3A$43.A$11.A$11.3A$14.A$13.2A29.2A$38.A.2A.A.A$38.2A.A.A$41.A.2A$.
A39.3A$.3A35.2A$4.A35.A3.A$3.2A14.A11.2A3.2A.2A2.A.A$19.2A9.A2.A6.A3.
A$5.2A21.A4.A5.2A$4.A2.A10.A8.6A8.3A$2A5.A9.A8.2A.A11.A.2A$A.A6.A7.A
9.A.A8.2A.A.A$.A2.2A9.A4.A7.2A8.A.2A.A.A$14.A5.A23.2A$14.2A3.A12.2A$
16.3A12.A2.A$6.A25.2A$6.2A$19.A$18.A.A$19.A!
```

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- A for awesome
**Posts:**1901**Joined:**September 13th, 2014, 5:36 pm**Location:**0x-1-
**Contact:**

### Re: The Hunting of the New Herschel Conduits

A maybe-salvageable transparent block:
I haven't found any way to keep the eater from getting destroyed, though.

Edit: Another one:
This time it's the transparent block that I can't salvage:

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```
x = 17, y = 8, rule = LifeHistory
16.A$5.2A7.3A$5.2A6.A$13.2A2$.C$3C$C!
```

Edit: Another one:

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```
x = 20, y = 6, rule = LifeHistory
2A16.2A$2A16.2A2$8.C$7.3C$7.C!
```

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```
x = 20, y = 6, rule = LifeHistory
2A16.2A$2A16.2A2$8.C$7.3C$7.C!
```

V ⃰_η=c²√(Λη)

K=(Λu²)/2

Pₐ=1−1/(∫^∞_t₀(p(t)ˡ⁽ᵗ⁾)dt)

$$x_1=\eta x$$

$$V^*_\eta=c^2\sqrt{\Lambda\eta}$$

$$K=\frac{\Lambda u^2}2$$

$$P_a=1-\frac1{\int^\infty_{t_0}p(t)^{l(t)}dt}$$

http://conwaylife.com/wiki/A_for_all

Aidan F. Pierce

- A for awesome
**Posts:**1901**Joined:**September 13th, 2014, 5:36 pm**Location:**0x-1-
**Contact:**

### Re: The Hunting of the New Herschel Conduits

Another D-to-G:

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```
x = 24, y = 31, rule = LifeHistory
13.C$.2C8.3C$C2BC6.C$BCBC2B4.2C$2BC9B$2.8B$4.11B2.B5.B$4.11B.3B3.2B$
4.15B2.3B$5.19B$3.20B$2.20B$3.4B3C11B$3.3BC2BC11B$3.2BC2BC13B$3.3B2C
14B$3.18B$2.19B$.21B$.7B.13B$2.19B$2.21B$2.22B$2.13B2.6B$4.12B2.3B$5.
10B$5.8B$11.B$10.3B$10.B2CB$11.2C!
```

V ⃰_η=c²√(Λη)

K=(Λu²)/2

Pₐ=1−1/(∫^∞_t₀(p(t)ˡ⁽ᵗ⁾)dt)

$$x_1=\eta x$$

$$V^*_\eta=c^2\sqrt{\Lambda\eta}$$

$$K=\frac{\Lambda u^2}2$$

$$P_a=1-\frac1{\int^\infty_{t_0}p(t)^{l(t)}dt}$$

http://conwaylife.com/wiki/A_for_all

Aidan F. Pierce

- A for awesome
**Posts:**1901**Joined:**September 13th, 2014, 5:36 pm**Location:**0x-1-
**Contact:**

### Re: The Hunting of the New Herschel Conduits

A D-to-R:Not sure if there's an output, though.

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```
x = 29, y = 21, rule = LifeHistory
19.B$7.B2.2B.B4.3B$5.11B2.3B$.B2.18B$2CB.20B$2C23B$.B.11BD10B$3.10B3D
9B$2.13BD7B.B2C$3.20B.BC.C$3.19B5.C$2.21B4.2C$3.19B$3.18B$4.5B3C9B$4.
4BC2BC9B$6.BC2BC8B.B2C$6.2B2C8B2.BC.C$8.7B.B6.C$8.3B.2B9.2C$9.B!
```

V ⃰_η=c²√(Λη)

K=(Λu²)/2

Pₐ=1−1/(∫^∞_t₀(p(t)ˡ⁽ᵗ⁾)dt)

$$x_1=\eta x$$

$$V^*_\eta=c^2\sqrt{\Lambda\eta}$$

$$K=\frac{\Lambda u^2}2$$

$$P_a=1-\frac1{\int^\infty_{t_0}p(t)^{l(t)}dt}$$

http://conwaylife.com/wiki/A_for_all

Aidan F. Pierce

- Extrementhusiast
**Posts:**1797**Joined:**June 16th, 2009, 11:24 pm**Location:**USA

### Re: The Hunting of the New Herschel Conduits

A very simple periodic conduit, HFx55Bp4/5/6/7/8/others:
Replacing the sparker with a hook with tail turns it into a period-tripler:
But I just want a stable way to remove that darn block!

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```
x = 186, y = 43, rule = LifeHistory
11.D39.D39.D39.D39.D$10.3D37.3D37.3D37.3D37.3D$10.D.2D36.D.2D36.D.2D
36.D.2D36.D.2D5$3.2A38.2A38.2A38.2A38.2A$3.A39.A39.A39.A39.A$A4.A34.A
4.A34.A4.A34.A4.A34.A4.A$6A34.6A34.6A34.6A34.6A2$2.2A38.2A38.2A38.2A
38.2A$2.A39.A39.A39.A39.A$A.A16.2A19.A.A16.2A19.A.A16.2A19.A.A16.2A
19.A.A16.2A$2A16.A2.A18.2A16.A2.A18.2A16.A2.A18.2A16.A2.A18.2A16.A2.A
$19.2A38.2A38.2A38.2A38.2A3$7.3D37.3D37.3D37.3D37.3D$8.D39.D39.D39.D
39.D$8.3D6.A.A28.3D7.2A28.3D6.A2.A27.3D37.3D6.A.A$20.A36.4A39.A34.2A
43.A$16.A2.A36.A4.A34.A4.A33.2A39.A4.A2.2A$15.A.A.A35.2A4.2A33.2A2.A.
A33.A3.A.3A31.2A.A2.A.2A$15.A2.A36.2A4.2A38.A.2A30.A3.6A35.2A$16.2A
38.A4.A72.A6.A$57.4A74.5A$58.2A41.A2.A$101.2A34.5A$136.A6.A$137.A3.6A
$138.A3.A.3A$137.2A$137.2A3$9.2A38.2A38.2A38.2A38.2A$9.2A38.2A38.2A
38.2A38.2A2$8.C7.A.2A28.C7.A.2A28.C7.A.2A28.C7.A.2A28.C7.A.2A$7.3C6.
2A.A27.3C6.2A.A27.3C6.2A.A27.3C6.2A.A27.3C6.2A.A$7.C.2C36.C.2C36.C.2C
36.C.2C36.C.2C!
```

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```
x = 103, y = 43, rule = LifeHistory
12.D39.D39.D$11.3D37.3D37.3D$11.D.2D36.D.2D36.D.2D5$4.2A38.2A38.2A$4.
A39.A39.A$.A4.A34.A4.A34.A4.A$.6A34.6A34.6A2$3.2A38.2A38.2A$3.A39.A
39.A$.A.A16.2A19.A.A16.2A19.A.A16.2A$.2A16.A2.A18.2A16.A2.A18.2A16.A
2.A$20.2A38.2A38.2A$54.2A$A39.A13.2A24.A11.2A$3A5.3D29.3A5.3D29.3A5.
3D.2A$3.A5.D33.A5.D33.A5.D$2.A6.3D30.A6.3D30.A6.3D$2.2A38.2A38.2A15$
10.2A38.2A38.2A$10.2A38.2A38.2A2$9.C7.A.2A28.C7.A.2A28.C7.A.2A$8.3C6.
2A.A27.3C6.2A.A27.3C6.2A.A$8.C.2C36.C.2C36.C.2C!
```

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### Re: The Hunting of the New Herschel Conduits

That's a very nice new straight-line period tripler -- easy to chain together to make high-period guns with very small bounding boxes (long and narrow). But yes, a stable version would be nice.Extrementhusiast wrote:A very simple periodic conduit, HFx55Bp4/5/6/7/8/others...

Replacing the sparker with a hook with tail turns it into a period-tripler...

But I just want a stable way to remove that darn block!

It's technically within the reach of current technology. You just have to route a signal around to rebuild a block:

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```
x = 22, y = 43, rule = LifeHistory
11.D$10.3D$10.D.2D5$3.2A$3.A$A4.A$6A2$2.2A$2.A$A.A16.2A$2A16.A2.A$19.
2A3$7.3D$8.D9.2A$8.3D7.2A16$9.2A$9.2A2$8.C7.A.2A$7.3C6.2A.A$7.C.2C!
```

- BlinkerSpawn
**Posts:**1906**Joined:**November 8th, 2014, 8:48 pm**Location:**Getting a snacker from R-Bee's

### Re: The Hunting of the New Herschel Conduits

Like turning a LOM into a hive?dvgrn wrote:Or any number of other similarly unlikely transformations.

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```
x = 22, y = 43, rule = LifeHistory
11.D$10.3D$10.D.2D5$3.2A$3.A$A4.A$6A2$2.2A$2.A$A.A16.2A$2A16.A2.A$19.
2A3$7.3D$8.D$8.3D5.2A$15.A2.A$16.2A14$9.2A$9.2A2$8.C7.A.2A$7.3C6.2A.A
$7.C.2C!
```

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```
x = 22, y = 43, rule = LifeHistory
11.D$10.3D$10.D.2D5$3.2A$3.A$A4.A$6A2$2.2A$2.A$A.A16.2A$2A16.A2.A$19.
2A3$7.3D$8.D8.A$8.3D6.A$17.A15$9.2A$9.2A2$8.A7.A.2A$7.3A6.2A.A$7.A.2A
!
```