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Re: The Hunting of the New Herschel Conduits
Posted: May 20th, 2020, 7:31 am
by dvgrn
Entity Valkyrie 2 wrote: ↑May 19th, 2020, 10:15 pm
Is this ERx62H new? (discovered by hand)
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x = 12, y = 31, rule = B3/S23
10b2o$10bo$8bobo$8b2o7$o$obo$3o$bo4$3b2o$3b2o10$b3o$3bo$3b2o!
I think it is new, and it's quite a nice one. It won't be a Herschel conduit until someone finds an H-to-E that can connect to it, and unfortunately A for awesome's
HF182E doesn't line up. But let's keep collecting these things when we find them, and remembering to post the words "E conduit" in the message every time, so that Google can help locate them again.
Ordinarily I'd say that things like this should go in the Elementary Conduits thread, but the rest of the E discussion is on this thread so maybe it might as well stay here.
Re: The Hunting of the New Herschel Conduits
Posted: May 20th, 2020, 7:06 pm
by Entity Valkyrie 2
dvgrn wrote: ↑May 20th, 2020, 7:31 am
Entity Valkyrie 2 wrote: ↑May 19th, 2020, 10:15 pm
Is this ERx62H new? (discovered by hand)
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x = 12, y = 31, rule = B3/S23
10b2o$10bo$8bobo$8b2o7$o$obo$3o$bo4$3b2o$3b2o10$b3o$3bo$3b2o!
I think it is new, and it's quite a nice one. It won't be a Herschel conduit until someone finds an H-to-E that can connect to it, and unfortunately A for awesome's
HF182E doesn't line up. But let's keep collecting these things when we find them, and remembering to post the words "E conduit" in the message every time, so that Google can help locate them again.
Ordinarily I'd say that things like this should go in the Elementary Conduits thread, but the rest of the E discussion is on this thread so maybe it might as well stay here.
Posting "E conduit" isn't enough, since a search would just ignore the "E". I typed "Eheptomino conduit", where "Eheptomino" is one word (or else the search would again ignore the "E"). Is there a way to make the search not ignore one and two-letter words?
Re: The Hunting of the New Herschel Conduits
Posted: May 20th, 2020, 8:26 pm
by Sphenocorona
Here's an interesting start to a possible E heptomino conduit which *is* compatible with the known H-to-E conduit. The boat doesn't have to be a boat, but something needs to be there in order to make the transparent block re-coalesce and prevent the nearby eater from being destroyed. If we can restore the boat though, it might be possible to get more out of this than just a glider.
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x = 29, y = 27, rule = LifeHistory
26.D$26.2D$14.2B11.2D$14.B2C9.2D$13.2BC.CB$13.3BC2B$14.6B$13.6B$4.2C
6.8B$5.C6.8B$5.C.CB2.7B$6.2CB.8B$8.7B2CB$8.7B2C2B$9.10B$10.10B$9.12B$
8.12B3.B$7.14B.B2C$6.17B2C$5.17B.B$4.4B2.5B2C4B$3.4B4.5B2C3B$2.4B6.2B
3C3B$.4B7.7B$4B10.4B$3B12.B!
Re: The Hunting of the New Herschel Conduits
Posted: May 20th, 2020, 8:42 pm
by dvgrn
Entity Valkyrie 2 wrote: ↑May 20th, 2020, 7:06 pm
Posting "E conduit" isn't enough, since a search would just ignore the "E". I typed "Eheptomino conduit", where "Eheptomino" is one word (or else the search would again ignore the "E"). Is there a way to make the search not ignore one and two-letter words?
The PHPBB-based search system just plain isn't very good -- doesn't seem to have an option to index one- and two-letter words, or hyphenated combinations, or word combinations in quotes that have to be in that specific order.
Google, on the other hand, knows about
"E-heptomino" already, which is why I mentioned Google being able to help. It will probably start returning results for "E conduit" in a day or three.
Re: The Hunting of the New Herschel Conduits
Posted: May 23rd, 2020, 11:01 am
by Jormungant
Just messing around with the "I" heptamino
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x = 55, y = 41, rule = LifeHistory
7$46.2D$32.3D10.D.D$47.D$30.D5.D$30.D5.D$30.D5.D2$32.3D3$7.D23.2C$5.D
.D24.C$5.3D24.2C$5.D27.2C5$21.2CB7.17B$21.2C8.17B$29.2CB.8B.5B$28.C.C
B.7B3.5B$28.C4.8B5.B2C$27.2C5.7B5.BC.C$34.6B9.C$35.5B9.2C4$37.3D$37.D
$36.3D!
is there any precursor/glider synthesis to these heptaminos in any case?
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x = 98, y = 23, rule = LifeHistory
$3.3D27.3D27.D2.D26.3D$3.D29.D29.D2.D27.D$3.3D27.2D28.4D27.D$3.D29.D
29.D2.D27.D$3.3D27.D29.D2.D26.3D12$32.2C29.2C28.2C$4.3C26.C30.C29.C$
3.2C28.C30.3C27.2C$4.2C27.3C29.C29.2C!
if there is nothing, Incidentally I got to have the following at least ^^'
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x = 112, y = 33, rule = LifeHistory
2$.3D$.D$2.D$95.3A2$19.3B71.A5.A$19.2B72.A5.A$19.3B.2B68.A5.A$19.8B3.
D$19.8B3.D.D62.3A$19.8B3.3D$19.8B5.D62.AB8.3D$19.8B67.ABA10.2D$14.C4.
7B68.2A10.2D$13.2C4.5B$11.3C5.2B$11.C7.4B$21.2C$21.C$22.3C$24.C2$8.D$
6.D.D$6.3D$7.D$16.2A$16.A$17.3A$19.A!
Re: The Hunting of the New Herschel Conduits
Posted: May 23rd, 2020, 12:52 pm
by Jormungant
well well, here is a 1-time I-to-E (I just wanted to type that ^^)
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x = 47, y = 35, rule = LifeHistory
3$28.A$26.3A$21.2A2.A$21.A.A2.A$7.4B.B9.B.2A2.A4.B$7.7B.3B3.2B2.A.2A
3.2B5.2B$7.12B.2BAB.A.C.5B4.4B$7.14BA.A.A.C7B.6B$.2D4.14B.2A.2A.15B$.
D.D7.9B8.15B$.D9.9B8.15B$11.11B4.17B$11.11B.20B$7.19BD15B$7.19BDBD12B
$7.19B3D11B$7.21BD6B2.5B$7.27B6.2C.C$7.3BC15B3.B.5B4.2CB3C$7.2B2C13B
10.2C5.B4.C$7.3C7B2.4B11.C5.2C.3C$7.C14B13.3C3.C.C$7.5B5.2C2B16.C3.C.
C$8.3B6.C2B22.C$18.3C$20.C2$4.D$2.D.D$2.3D$3.D!
can be fixed ?
Re: The Hunting of the New Herschel Conduits
Posted: May 23rd, 2020, 1:26 pm
by calcyman
Jormungant wrote: ↑May 23rd, 2020, 12:52 pm
can be fixed ?
This almost works, but leaves an Annoying Beehive:
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x = 36, y = 31, rule = LifeHistory
27.A$25.3A$20.2A2.A$20.A.A2.A$6.4B.B9.B.2A2.A$6.7B.3B3.2B2.A.2A$6.12B
.2BAB.A5.D$6.14BA.A.A4.DBD$2D4.14B.2A.2A2.BDBD3B$D.D7.9B9.2BD4B$D9.9B
8.7B2A$10.11B4.9B2A$10.11B.11B.B$6.19BD6B$6.19BDBD4B$6.19B3D4B$6.21BD
4B$6.25B$6.3BC15B3.B$6.2B2C13B$6.3C7B2.4B$6.C14B$6.5B5.2C2B$7.3B6.C2B
$17.3C$19.C2$3.D$.D.D$.3D$2.D!
Re: The Hunting of the New Herschel Conduits
Posted: May 23rd, 2020, 2:14 pm
by Jormungant
How about this? Lol
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x = 52, y = 35, rule = LifeHistory
4$30.B.3B.B2.4B$25.13B.4B$10.4B.B7.D11B2A5B2A$2.B7.7B.3B.B3D9B2A5B2A$
2.2B6.12B.DBD15B.B$2.3B5.12B3.D12B2AB$2.2B2D4.12B5.2B2.7B2A$3.BD.D7.
8B10.8B$4.D9.8B9.7B$11.2D.8B7.10B$11.2D.8B5.12B$10.19BD8B$10.19BDBD4B
$10.19B3D4B$10.21BD4B$10.25B$10.3BC15B3.B$10.2B2C13B$10.3C7B2.4B$10.C
14B$10.5B5.2C2B$11.3B6.C2B$21.3C$23.C2$7.D$5.D.D$5.3D$6.D!
In theory, this is to avoid hitting the block, there surely is many ways to proceed ^_^. Not even sure the natural glider from the H is required...
... Otherwise, very fine boat factory, just have to wait for a X-to-I now ^^'
Re: The Hunting of the New Herschel Conduits
Posted: May 23rd, 2020, 3:24 pm
by calcyman
Jormungant wrote: ↑May 23rd, 2020, 2:14 pm
How about this? Lol
Perfect! Dave Greene's favourite method works here:
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x = 73, y = 68, rule = LifeHistory
19.2A$19.A.A$21.A4.2A$17.4A.2A2.A2.A$17.A2.A.A.A.A.2A$19.BABABA.A$20.
B2ABA.A$21.2B.BA$20.3B$11.2A6.4B$12.A6.B2A3B$12.A.AB3.B2A3B$13.2AB.
10B$15.13B$15.14B$15.15B$17.8B2.4B$17.6B5.4B$16.9B4.4B$3.2A10.4B4.2A
5.4B$4.A9.4B5.A7.4B$2.A10.4B7.3A5.4B$2.5A5.4B5.3A2.A6.4B$7.A3.5B5.A2.
2A8.4B$4.3AB2.7B.BA.A2.A10.4B$3.A.2B3.7B.B2A5.A9.4B$3.4A12B6.2A10.4B$
.2A2.BA3B2A7B19.4B$A2.3AB.2B2A7B20.4B$2A.A.B3.10B21.4B$3.A8.8B21.4B$
3.2A7.9B21.4B$13.3B2.4B21.4B$11.5B3.4B21.4B$11.2A7.4B21.4B$12.A8.4B
21.4B$9.3A10.4B21.5B2.B$9.A13.4B18.11B$24.4B17.11B$25.4B16.11B3.B.3B.
B2.4B$26.4B15.22B.4B$27.4B6.6B.B.6BD11B2A5B2A$28.4B4.16B3D9B2A5B2A$
29.4B3.16BDBD15B.B$30.4B.19BD12B2AB$31.27B2.7B2A$32.4B.19B5.8B$32.21B
.B5.7B$32.8B2D11B5.10B$31.9B2D12B.13B$29.29BD8B$28.30BDBD4B$29.29B3D
4B$29.31BD4B$28.36B$28.14BC15B3.B$27.14B2C13B$26.13B3C7B2.4B$26.13BC
14B$26.18B5.2A2B$27.16B6.A2B$40.B9.3A$52.A2$36.D$34.D.D$34.3D$35.D!
Re: The Hunting of the New Herschel Conduits
Posted: May 23rd, 2020, 6:31 pm
by praosylen
Better:
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x = 41, y = 31, rule = LifeHistory
27.A$25.3A$20.2A2.A$20.A.A2.A$6.4B.B9.B.2A2.A2.2A$6.7B.3B3.2B2.A.2A2.
A.A$6.12B.2BAB.A6.AB6.2A$6.14BA.A.A5.2B7.A$2D4.14B.2A.2A4.3B3.BA.A$D.
D7.9B9.7B.B2A$D9.9B8.10B$10.11B4.12B$10.11B.15B$6.19BD12B$6.19BDBD11B
$6.19B3D12B$6.21BD11B$6.32B$6.3BC15B6.6B$6.2B2C13B9.3B$6.3C7B2.4B10.3B
$6.C14B12.B$6.5B5.2C2B$7.3B6.C2B$17.3C$19.C2$3.D$.D.D$.3D$2.D!
Re: The Hunting of the New Herschel Conduits
Posted: May 23rd, 2020, 7:35 pm
by Jormungant
Great! well, if ever get to have a X-to-I, then there is a I-to-g ready:
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x = 57, y = 47, rule = LifeHistory
2B33.A$3B30.3A$4B24.2A2.A$.4B23.A.A2.A$2.4B6.6B.B9.B.2A2.A2.2A$3.4B4.
10B.3B3.2B2.A.2A2.A.A$4.4B3.15B.2BAB.A6.AB6.2A$5.4B.18BA.A.A5.2B7.A$
6.2B2D18B.2A.2A4.3B3.BA.A$7.BDBD.15B9.7B.B2A$7.BD18B8.10B$7.22B4.12B$
6.23B.15B$4.29BD12B$3.30BDBD11B$4.29B3D12B$4.31BD11B$3.43B$3.14BC15B
6.6B$2.14B2C13B9.3B$.13B3C7B2.4B10.3B$.13BC14B12.B$.18B5.2C2B$2.16B6.
C2B$2.12B.B9.3C$3.11B13.C$3.11B$2.9BD2B$.8BDBD3B$2C7B3D2B$2C8BD3B$.
12B$.11B$7.4B$9.B!
Otherwise, there is this wierd interaction where a block is destroyed and remade, not sure if that can be fixed (again)
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x = 17, y = 18, rule = LifeHistory
5$13.2C$13.2C5$.B3C4B$.2B.2C3B$.2B2C4B!
Did anyone search for a E-to-H anyways?
Re: The Hunting of the New Herschel Conduits
Posted: May 23rd, 2020, 8:00 pm
by Entity Valkyrie 2
Jormungant wrote: ↑May 23rd, 2020, 7:35 pm
Great! well, if ever get to have a X-to-I, then there is a I-to-g here then
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x = 57, y = 47, rule = LifeHistory
2B33.A$3B30.3A$4B24.2A2.A$.4B23.A.A2.A$2.4B6.6B.B9.B.2A2.A2.2A$3.4B4.
10B.3B3.2B2.A.2A2.A.A$4.4B3.15B.2BAB.A6.AB6.2A$5.4B.18BA.A.A5.2B7.A$
6.2B2D18B.2A.2A4.3B3.BA.A$7.BDBD.15B9.7B.B2A$7.BD18B8.10B$7.22B4.12B$
6.23B.15B$4.29BD12B$3.30BDBD11B$4.29B3D12B$4.31BD11B$3.43B$3.14BC15B
6.6B$2.14B2C13B9.3B$.13B3C7B2.4B10.3B$.13BC14B12.B$.18B5.2C2B$2.16B6.
C2B$2.12B.B9.3C$3.11B13.C$3.11B$2.9BD2B$.8BDBD3B$2C7B3D2B$2C8BD3B$.
12B$.11B$7.4B$9.B!
Otherwise, there is this wierd interaction where a block is destroyed and remade, not sure if that can be fixed (again)
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x = 17, y = 18, rule = LifeHistory
5$13.2C$13.2C5$.B3C4B$.2B.2C3B$.2B2C4B!
Did anyone search for a E-to-H anyways?
Unfortunately, neither the red block nor the red eater fits:
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x = 37, y = 49, rule = LifeHistory
2B33.A$3B30.3A$4B24.2A2.A$.4B23.A.A2.A$2.4B6.6B.B9.B.2A2.A$3.4B4.10B.
3B3.2B2.A.2A$4.4B3.15B.2BAB.A$5.4B.18BA.A.A$6.2B2D18B.2A.2A$7.2D2B.
15B$7.2BD17B$7.22B$6.23B.2B$4.29BD$3.30BDBD$4.29B3DB$4.31BD$2D.31B$.D
.14BC12B$.DBD12B2C12B$.B2D10B3C7B2.4B$.13BC14B$.18B5.2C2B$2.16B6.C2B$
2.12B.B9.3C$.13B13.C$.13B$2.9BD2B$.8BDBD3B$9B3D2B$.9BD3B$.12B$.11B$5.
7B$6.B2D3B$6.B2D2B$5.6B$5.6B$5.7B$6.6B$5.6B$6.5B$6.6B$6.6B$6.5B$6.2B
3D$7.BDB$7.3D$8.B!
The E-to-H with a transparent block (found by hand):
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x = 12, y = 31, rule = B3/S23
10b2o$10bo$8bobo$8b2o7$o$obo$3o$bo4$3b2o$3b2o10$b3o$3bo$3b2o!
Re: The Hunting of the New Herschel Conduits
Posted: May 24th, 2020, 10:06 am
by Jormungant
Another thing one could check is if the following bait can be remade in any way. Or if a boat factory strategy works (the 2 that I know do not work, :/)
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x = 238, y = 127, rule = LifeHistory
12$29.2A68.2A$15.2A10.2B2AB53.2A10.2B2AB$16.A10.4B55.A10.4B$16.A.AB6.
7B53.A.AB6.7B116.A$17.2AB.3B.8B54.2AB.3B.8B115.A.A$19.14B56.14B116.A$
19.14B56.14B$20.13B57.13B114.5A$19.14B.2B53.14B.2B110.A4.A$17.18B2A
50.18B2A108.A2.A$15.18B.B2A48.18B.B2A105.A2.A.2A$15.2BC6B11.B49.2BC6B
11.B105.A.A.A5.A$14.3BCBC4B60.3BCBC4B91.A25.2A2.A4.A.A$15.2B3C4B61.2B
3C4B92.A22.2A4.2A2.A2.A$14.5BC4B60.5BC4B90.3A23.A9.2A$13.10B60.10B
117.A.A$12.4B17.3B46.4B17.3B94.A10.2A$12.3B18.B48.3B18.B94.3A$10.4B
21.B44.4B21.B91.A$10.2A68.2A115.2A$11.A69.A100.2A$8.3A67.3A102.A$8.A
69.A104.A.2A$184.A2.A$35.B149.2A43.2D$35.2B55.2B106.2A27.D.D$29.B4.3B
55.3B4.B100.2A28.D$28.CB5.2B.3D47.3D.2B5.BC$27.CBC10.2D45.2D10.CBC$
27.2C10.2D47.2D10.2C$209.A3.2A$208.A.A3.A$207.A.A3.A6.2A$203.2A.A.A3.
A8.A$203.2A.A2.4A.A3.3A$207.A.A3.A.A2.A$203.2A.2A2.A2.A.A$204.A.A2.2A
3.A$192.2A10.A.A$192.2A6.A4.A$200.3A$203.A19$29.2A68.2A$15.2A10.2B2AB
53.2A10.2B2AB$16.A10.4B55.A10.4B$16.A.AB6.7B53.A.AB6.7B$17.2AB.3B.8B
54.2AB.3B.8B$19.14B56.14B120.A$19.14B56.14B120.3A$20.13B57.13B123.A$
19.14B.2B53.14B.2B119.2A$17.18B2A50.18B2A118.5B$15.9B10.B2A48.7B12.B
2A120.4B$15.2BC6B11.B49.2BC4B13.B120.5B$14.3BCBC4B60.3BCBC2B134.6B$
15.2B3C4B61.2B3C2B133.B2A3B$14.5BC4B60.5BC2B133.B2A4B$13.10B60.9B133.
7B$12.4B66.4B17.3B118.8B$12.3B67.3B18.B120.7B$10.4B9.B56.4B21.B83.A
34.7B$10.2A68.2A108.A22.2A8.8B$11.A10.2C57.A23.2C81.3A23.A8.9B$8.3A
11.CBC53.3A23.CBC82.4B21.A.AB4.10B$8.A14.C2B52.A24.2BC84.4B10.A10.2AB
.14B$191.4B7.3A12.17B$192.4B5.A15.17B$193.4B4.2A15.15B$186.2A6.9B14.
16B$25.B77.B83.A7.6B14.19B$24.2B77.2B82.A.2A5.6B3.B2.2B2.21B$24.2B76.
3B83.A2.A4.19BD17B$189.2AB3.20BDBD4B.9B$24.D79.D85.14B2A9B3D4B2.8B$
22.D.D79.D.D79.B4.13B2A11BD4B2.8B$22.3D79.3D85.29B2.8B$23.D81.D86.17B
.4B9.8B$193.15B3.4B7.9B$193.15B3.3B8.13B$194.13B5.A2B.2A3.14B$196.13B
2.A.A2B.A2.15B$195.8B4.2A.A.AB2.A3.15B$195.6B6.2ABA4.A4.12B2DB$195.5B
8.B2.5A.A2.11BDBDB$195.B.B5.2A.A.2A.A4.A.A2.11BD2B$196.3B4.A.2A.A2.A.
2A2.A13.4B$195.B2AB11.2A.A.2A14.4B$196.2A34.3B$232.3B$231.4B$230.4B!
Re: The Hunting of the New Herschel Conduits
Posted: June 22nd, 2020, 6:43 am
by Goldtiger997
Here are what I think are two to H-to-Gs. I think they are also the first examples of X-to-E-to-X:
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x = 46, y = 111, rule = LifeHistory
27.2A$25.2B2AB$25.4B$24.4B$25.4B$25.5B$23.7B$13.2A7.8B$14.A7.9B$14.A.
AB3.12B7.4B$15.2AB2.13B6.4B$17.18B3.4B$17.18B2.4B$17.23B$18.21B$14.B.
22B$13.2AB.20B$13.2A21B$14.B.20B$16.13BD8B$16.13BDBD7B$16.13B3D7B$16.
14BD8B2.2A$16.10B2.11BA2.A$16.10B4.6B.2B3A$15.10B6.5B2.B$15.10B6.4B4.
2A.A.2A$7.2A6.10B6.B2AB5.A.2A.A$8.A7.9B7.2A6.A$8.A.AB4.9B.2B11.2A$9.
2AB.14B2A$11.16B2A$11.14B.2B$12.13B$11.14B.2B$9.18B2A$7.18B.B2A$7.2BC
15B2.B$6.3BCBC4B.8B$7.2B3C4B2.7B$6.5BC4B2.7B$5.10B3.7B$4.4B11.7B$4.3B
12.7B$2.4B13.6B$2.2A16.5B$3.A14.6B$3A15.6B$A17.4B$18.2B2AB$20.2A10$
27.2A$25.2B2AB$25.4B$24.4B$25.4B$25.5B$23.7B10.4B$13.2A7.8B9.4B$14.A
7.9B7.4B$14.A.AB3.12B4.4B$15.2AB2.13B3.4B$17.22B$17.21B$17.20B$18.18B
$14.B.20B$13.2AB.19B$13.2A21B$14.B.20B$16.13BD8B$16.13BDBD6B$16.13B3D
6B$16.14BD7B$16.10B2.11B$16.10B3.12B$15.10B5.6BA5B$15.10B5.5BABA3B$7.
2A6.10B7.3B2A4B$8.A7.9B8.B2.4B$8.A.AB4.9B.2B4.3B$9.2AB.14B2A3.B2AB$
11.16B2A4.2A$11.14B.2B$12.13B$11.14B.2B$9.18B2A$7.18B.B2A$7.2BC15B2.B
$6.3BCBC4B.8B$7.2B3C4B2.7B$6.5BC4B2.7B$5.10B3.7B$4.4B11.7B$4.3B12.7B$
2.4B13.6B$2.2A16.5B$3.A14.6B$3A15.6B$A17.4B$18.2B2AB$20.2A!
I really should have clarified this earlier, but the H-to-E was not found by me (it was
found by A for Awesome). All I did was find two E-to-X converters that were compatible with that H-to-E converter.
Re: The Hunting of the New Herschel Conduits
Posted: June 22nd, 2020, 9:21 am
by Jormungant
Very nice! the e-to-g works with that I-to-E too, just missing that an X-to-I that work here (the 2 I "found" does not work)
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x = 97, y = 150, rule = LifeHistory
13$17.2B33.A$17.3B30.3A$17.4B24.2A2.A$18.4B23.A.A2.A$19.4B6.6B.B9.B.
2A2.A2.2A$20.4B4.10B.3B3.2B2.A.2A2.A.A$21.4B3.15B.2BAB.A6.AB6.2A$22.
4B.18BA.A.A5.2B7.A$23.22B.2A.2A4.3B3.BA.A$24.4B.15B9.7B.B2A$24.20B8.
10B$24.22B4.12B$23.23B.15B$21.42B$20.44B$21.44B$21.43B$20.43B$20.14BC
15B6.6B$19.14B2C13B9.3B$18.13B3C7B2.4B10.3B$18.13BC14B12.B$18.18B5.2A
2B$19.16B6.A2B$19.12B.B9.3A$20.11B13.A$20.11B$20.8BD2B$19.7BDBD3B$19.
7B3D2B$15.2A2.8BD3B$15.A2.A11B$16.3A10B$19.B2.6B$12.2A.A.2A4.4B$12.A.
2A.A5.B2AB$17.A6.2A$17.2A45$22.2B33.A$22.3B30.3A$22.4B24.2A2.A$23.4B
23.A.A2.A$24.4B6.6B.B9.B.2A2.A2.2A$25.4B4.10B.3B3.2B2.A.2A2.A.A$26.4B
3.15B.2BAB.A6.AB6.2A$27.4B.18BA.A.A5.2B7.A$28.22B.2A.2A4.3B3.BA.A$29.
4B.15B9.7B.B2A$29.20B8.10B$29.22B4.12B$28.23B.15B$26.42B$25.44B$26.
44B$26.43B$25.43B$25.14BC15B6.6B$24.14B2C13B9.3B$23.13B3C7B2.4B10.3B$
23.13BC14B12.B$23.18B5.2A2B$24.16B6.A2B$24.12B.B9.3A$25.11B13.A$27.9B
$25.8BD2B$25.6BDBD3B$25.6B3D2B$25.7BD3B$24.11B$22.12B$21.5BA6B$22.3BA
BA5B$22.4B2A3B$23.4B2.B$28.3B$27.B2AB$28.2A!
Re: The Hunting of the New Herschel Conduits
Posted: June 22nd, 2020, 11:10 am
by dvgrn
Goldtiger997 wrote: ↑June 22nd, 2020, 6:43 am
Here are what I think are two to H-to-Gs. I think they are also the first examples of X-to-E-to-X...
Definitely new -- systemic names NE-1T153 and NE2T116. There wasn't an NE-1 in the H-to-G collection at all.
The other NE2 has a different timing (56), which unfortunately puts it in the same mod-8 bucket as the new one.
Cross-posted to the
H-to-G thread.
Re: The Hunting of the New Herschel Conduits
Posted: July 14th, 2020, 3:50 am
by Entity Valkyrie 2
dvgrn wrote: ↑October 5th, 2015, 4:38 pm
A for awesome wrote:Any hope of restoring this blinker?...
Sorry, meant to answer this sooner. I don't know about a Bellman solution, but here's a related old-hat result. It's possible to restore the useful two-thirds of that blinker, repeatedly, with a p6 pipsquirter:
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#C p6 Herschel fanout (64 and 65 steps)
#C The fanout uses Noam Elkies' p6 pipsquirt. One of the two output
#C Herschels (appearing in gen 64) is turned right w.r.t. the input
#C Herschel, the other one (gen 65) is turned left and flipped.
#C Dietrich Leithner, 1 December 1997
x = 30, y = 41, rule = LifeHistory
13.2A$13.A.A$15.A$11.4A.2A$11.A2.A.A.A$9.2A2.2A.A.A$8.A2.2A2.2A.A.2A$
7.A.2A2.2A.A.A.2A$7.A3.2A4.A$8.3A.A.3A$10.A3.A2$12.A$10.2BA$9.5B$5.2B
2.7B$3.D13B2.2B2.2B$.DBD22BD$B3D22BDBD$.D24B3DB$3.25BD$8.B.17B$11.9B.
B$10.8B$10.7B$9.11B$9.12B$9.12B$10.11B$8.4B.4B3CB$8.2A4.4BC2B$9.A4.2B
3C2B$6.3A6.6B$6.A8.7B$17.B.4B$20.4B$21.3B$23.B2A$23.BA.A$26.A$26.2A!
I guess that this didn't make it into Hersrch in the form of Lx65p6 and Rx64p6 conduits, only because lower-period forms of both conduits were available. Makes it easy to forget about this nice Herschel-splitting reaction, though.
It might be worth looking at this again, especially if higher-period pipsquirters are found. I guess p7 or p8 pipsquirters wouldn't work, though -- haven't checked higher periods.
Or... I don't remember if this Herschel splitter has been thoroughly checked against the current gun collection. Seems as if it would be easy enough to attach a syringe to the input. But it would only work for p6N, of course.
P6 works, but so does P4 and P5:
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x = 164, y = 28, rule = B3/S23
14b2o63b2o63b2o$15bo13b2o49bo64bo$15b3o11bobo48b3o62b3o$31bo2b2o$26bo
2bob2o2b2o$2o23bobobo5bobob2o24b2o63b2o$bo22b2o5b2o2bob2obo25bo23bo3b
2o35bo23b2o$bobo20b2o3b2o2bobo30bobo20bobobobo35bobo20bo2bo$2b2o19bo3b
obob2o2bo31b2o20bobobo38b2o20bobobo$22bo2b2o2bobo3b2o51b2obob2o58b2ob
obo$22bo4b3obo55bo3bo3bo59bobob2o$22bo8b2o54bo4bobobo53b2o2b2obo2bo$22b
o4b3obo55bo3b2o3bo59bobobob2o$22bo2b2o2bobo3b2o50bo4bob2o57b2obob3o2b
o$23bo3bobob2o2bo51bo3bo62bo2bo3b2o$2bo21b2o3b2o2bobo31bo20b2obob5o34b
o21bob5o$2bobo19b2o5b2o2bob2obo26bobo19bobo2bo2bo34bobo20bo4bo$2b3o20b
obobo5bobob2o26b3o19bo2bo39b3o21b4o$4bo21bo2bob2o2b2o32bo20b2o42bo23b
o$31bo2b2o124bo$29bobo127b2o$29b2o4$14b3o62b3o62b3o$14bo64bo64bo$13b2o
63b2o63b2o!
Re: The Hunting of the New Herschel Conduits
Posted: July 14th, 2020, 7:14 am
by calcyman
Nice! That yields a p256 Herschel factory:
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x = 62, y = 64, rule = B3/S23
34b2o9b2o$34bo11bo$35bo9bo$34b2o9b2o$32bo5bo3bo5bo$32bob5o3b5obo$32bob
o11bobo$36bo7bo$33bobobo2bo2bobobo$31b3obob7obob3o$30bo19bo$30b2o3b5ob
5o3b2o$16b2o15b4o2bobo2b4o$9b2o5b2o21bobo$9b2o22bo2bob2ob2obo2bo$34bob
o7bobo$34bo11bo$11b2o17b2o4b9o$11b2o17bo7b5o$5b2o21bobo29bo$5b2o21b2o
10bobo16bobo$42bo16bobo$60bo$43bo5bo$25bo13b2o2bo5bobo$2o22bob2o4bo8bo
7b3o$bo21b2obo3b3o18bo$bobo20bo6b2o$2b2o9$43b2o$43bo$44b3o$46bo3$2o$2o
3$24bo$5b2o17bobo$5b2o17b2o$b2o$b2o$42b2o$42b2o$7b2o27b2o$7b2o27b2o3$
38b2o$31b2o5b2o$12b2o17b2o$13bo$10b3o$10bo!
Re: The Hunting of the New Herschel Conduits
Posted: July 14th, 2020, 7:56 am
by Entity Valkyrie 2
calcyman wrote: ↑July 14th, 2020, 7:14 am
Nice! That yields a p256 Herschel factory:
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x = 62, y = 64, rule = B3/S23
34b2o9b2o$34bo11bo$35bo9bo$34b2o9b2o$32bo5bo3bo5bo$32bob5o3b5obo$32bob
o11bobo$36bo7bo$33bobobo2bo2bobobo$31b3obob7obob3o$30bo19bo$30b2o3b5ob
5o3b2o$16b2o15b4o2bobo2b4o$9b2o5b2o21bobo$9b2o22bo2bob2ob2obo2bo$34bob
o7bobo$34bo11bo$11b2o17b2o4b9o$11b2o17bo7b5o$5b2o21bobo29bo$5b2o21b2o
10bobo16bobo$42bo16bobo$60bo$43bo5bo$25bo13b2o2bo5bobo$2o22bob2o4bo8bo
7b3o$bo21b2obo3b3o18bo$bobo20bo6b2o$2b2o9$43b2o$43bo$44b3o$46bo3$2o$2o
3$24bo$5b2o17bobo$5b2o17b2o$b2o$b2o$42b2o$42b2o$7b2o27b2o$7b2o27b2o3$
38b2o$31b2o5b2o$12b2o17b2o$13bo$10b3o$10bo!
Example usage:
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x = 96, y = 61, rule = B3/S23
34b2o9b2o$34bo11bo$35bo9bo$34b2o9b2o$32bo5bo3bo5bo$32bob5o3b5obo$32bob
o11bobo$36bo7bo$33bobobo2bo2bobobo$31b3obob7obob3o$30bo19bo$30b2o3b5ob
5o3b2o$16b2o15b4o2bobo2b4o$9b2o5b2o21bobo$9b2o22bo2bob2ob2obo2bo$34bob
o7bobo19b3o$34bo11bo18bo2bo$11b2o17b2o4b9o23bo$11b2o17bo7b5o21bo3bo$5b
2o21bobo8b3o26bo$5b2o21b2o35bobo5$2o51b2o$bo51b2o16bo$bobo64b3ob2o5b2o
3b2o$2b2o63bo3b2o6b2o3b2o$63b3o2b2o19b2o$63b6o19bo2bo2b2o$66b3o10b3o7b
obo2b2o$63b5ob2o7bo2bo3b2o3b2o$63b4o2b3o6bobo4b2o$12b2o53b5o7bo$11bobo
80b2o$13bo67b2o6b2o3b2o$9bo66b2o3b2o6b2o$8bo67b2o$8bo2b2o79bo$9b3o28b
2o43b2o4bobo$10bo29bo39b2o3b2o3bo2bo$41b3o32b2o2bobo7b3o$2o41bo32b2o2b
o2bo$2o79b2o$86b2o3b2o$86b2o3b2o2$5b2o$5b2o$b2o$b2o$42b2o$42b2o$7b2o
27b2o$7b2o27b2o2$15b2o$16bo21b2o$13b3o15b2o5b2o$13bo17b2o!
Re: The Hunting of the New Herschel Conduits
Posted: July 20th, 2020, 7:14 pm
by dvgrn
A for awesome wrote: ↑July 20th, 2020, 6:45 pm
Here's a stable-ization (two forms shown):
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x = 72, y = 72, rule = LifeHistory
48.2A$48.A.A$50.A$46.4A.2A$46.A2.A.A.A$49.2BA.A$39.2A9.BAB.2A$40.A5.3B
.2A.B2.A$40.A.AB.7B5A$21.A19.2AB.5B.BA2B2.2A$21.3A19.4BA4B2.B2A2.A$24.
A18.3BABA3B4.A.2A$10.2A11.2A18.3BABA3B4.A$9.A.A11.4B17.3BA3B4.2A$9.A8.
2A5.3B18.5B$7.2A.4A3.B2AB3.12B.B7.5B$6.A.A.A2.A4.2B4.18B.9B$6.A.A2B8.
34B3.B$4.2A.BAB8.36B.B2A$3.A2.B.2A7.39B2A$3.5A5B3.15B2A22B.B$.2A2.2BA
B.4B2.2B3A10B2A22B6.2A$A2.2AB2.6B.4BA18B3.2B.11B6.A$2A.A3.4B2A6B3A15B
7.11B3.BA.A$3.A3.3BA2BA20B11.12B.B2A$3.2A2.4B2A15B.3B13.14B$8.6B.11B.
B.B11.2A3.13B$10.4B2.8B3.2A.A10.A2.A13B$8.5B3.6B6.A.3A10.2A2.10B$8.2A
7.6B3.A6.A11.12B$9.A6.7B3.2A4.2A9.2A.11B$6.3A7.6B21.A2.4B2A5B$6.A9.6B
19.A.A3.3B2A5B$16.6B19.2A4.10B5.2A$15.8B25.9B4.A.A$16.8B24.9B4.A$15.9B
24.8B3.2A.A$15.9B25.8B.A3.A$15.10B4.2A19.6B3.3A.2A$15.5B2A3B3.A.A19.6B
5.A.A.A$15.5B2A4B2.A21.6B5.2BA.A$15.11B.2A9.2A4.2A3.7B6.BAB.2A$15.12B
11.A6.A3.6B7.2A.B2.A$15.10B2.2A10.3A.A6.6B3.5B5A$14.13BA2.A10.A.2A3.8B
.5B.BA2B2.2A$13.13B3.2A11.B.B.18B2.B2A2.A$13.14B13.3B.15B2A4B3.A.2A$11.
2AB.12B11.20BA2BA3B3.A$10.A.AB3.11B7.24B2A4B2.2A$10.A6.11B.2B3.30B$9.
2A6.22B2A15B.5B$15.B.22B2A15B3.5B$14.2A39B7.2A$14.2AB.36B8.A$15.B3.34B
10.3A$20.9B.18B4.2B11.A$22.5B7.B.12B3.B2AB$21.7B16.4B4.2A$21.3BA3B6.A
10.4B$20.3BABA3B4.A.A10.4B$20.3BABA3B4.A.A11.4B$20.4BA4B2.B2A2.2A10.4B
$18.2AB.5B.BA2B2.2A2.A10.4B$17.A.AB.7B5A3.2A11.4B$17.A5.3B.2A.B2.A17.
4B$16.2A9.BAB.2A19.4B$26.2BA.A22.4B$23.A2.A.A.A23.4B$23.4A.2A25.4B$27.
A28.4B$25.A.A29.4B$25.2A31.4B!
Whoa, a new elementary L122 conduit... right? It doesn't seem to come apart into pieces -- that transparent block is not the standard one. Cross-posting this from Useless Discoveries; this doesn't look useless at all.
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x = 27, y = 52, rule = LifeHistory
13.B$12.3D$12.BDB$11.3D2B$11.5B$10.6B$10.6B$11.5B$11.6B$10.6B$10.7B$
11.6B$11.6B$11.6B$10.8B$9.8B$9.9B$9.9B$2.2A4.10B$2.A.A3.3B2A5B$4.A2.
4B2A5B$4.2A.11B$6.12B$4.2A2.10B$2.A2.A13B$2.2A3.13B$6.15B$6.16B$5.11B
3.4B$5.11B4.4B$4.5BC6B5.4B$4.5BCBC4B.B4.4B$4.5B3C5B2A4.4B$4.7BC3B.B2A
5.3B$4.10B3.B7.2B$4.9B13.B$6.5B$5.7B$5.3BA3B4.2A$4.3BABA3B4.A$4.3BABA
3B4.A.2A$4.4BA4B2.B2A2.A$2.2AB.5B.BA2B2.2A$.A.AB.7B5A$.A5.3B.2A.B2.A$
2A9.BAB.2A$10.2BA.A$7.A2.A.A.A$7.4A.2A$11.A$9.A.A$9.2A!
New conduits that produce extra glider outputs are pretty rare, especially with numbers as low as 122. Is there a way to make it work with an Fx77 or F116 prefix?
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#C Apparently Not Quite Functional
x = 121, y = 58, rule = LifeHistory
40.B$39.3D$39.BDB$38.3D2B$38.5B$37.6B$37.6B64.B$38.5B63.3D$38.6B62.BD
B$37.6B62.3D2B$37.7B61.5B$38.6B60.6B$38.6B60.6B$38.6B61.5B$37.8B60.6B
$12.A23.8B60.6B$12.3A21.9B59.7B$15.A20.9B60.6B$14.2A4.2B7.2A4.10B60.
6B$10.B3.8B7.A.A3.3B2A5B50.A9.6B$8.4B4.7B8.A2.4B2A5B48.3A8.8B$7.6B.9B
8.2A.11B47.A10.8B$7.6B.10B9.12B47.2A9.9B$6.19B6.2A2.10B45.4B9.9B$5.
19B5.A2.A13B43.3B4.2A4.10B$5.17B7.2A3.13B42.4B3.A.A3.3B2A5B$6.15B12.
15B27.B12.5B5.A2.4B2A5B$4.17B12.16B26.2B11.6B4.2A.11B$2.21B9.11B3.4B
25.9B2.8B6.12B$2.2BC21B3.2B.11B4.4B24.5BC14B3.2A2.10B$.3BCBC4B.24BD6B
5.4B24.2B3C13B2.A2.A13B$2.2B3C4B2.23BDBD4B.B4.4B22.3BCBC4B.7B3.2A3.
13B$.5BC4B2.23B3D5B2A4.4B22.2BC15B6.15B$10B4.24BD3B.B2A5.3B22.18B6.
16B$3B10.28B3.B7.2B24.17B4.11B3.4B$2B12.16B.9B13.B26.15B.2B.11B4.4B$B
13.12B7.5B43.22BD6B5.4B$14.9B9.7B42.8B.13BDBD4B.B4.4B$13.11B8.3BA3B4.
2A34.8B3.2B2A9B3D5B2A4.4B$14.7B.B2A6.3BABA3B4.A34.2A3.B5.2B2A11BD3B.B
2A5.3B$16.4B2.BA.A5.3BABA3B4.A.2A32.A10.17B3.B7.2B$15.B2A2B5.A5.4BA4B
2.B2A2.A29.3A12.B.3B.9B13.B$16.2A7.2A2.2AB.5B.BA2B2.2A30.A22.5B$28.A.
AB.7B5A54.7B$28.A5.3B.2A.B2.A54.3BA3B4.2A$27.2A9.BAB.2A54.3BABA3B4.A$
37.2BA.A56.3BABA3B4.A.2A$34.A2.A.A.A56.4BA4B2.B2A2.A$34.4A.2A55.2AB.
5B.BA2B2.2A$38.A56.A.AB.7B5A$36.A.A56.A5.3B.2A.B2.A$36.2A56.2A9.BAB.
2A$104.2BA.A$101.A2.A.A.A$101.4A.2A$105.A$103.A.A$103.2A!
Re: The Hunting of the New Herschel Conduits
Posted: July 20th, 2020, 7:19 pm
by praosylen
dvgrn wrote: ↑July 20th, 2020, 7:14 pm
New conduits that produce extra glider outputs are pretty rare, especially with numbers as low as 122. Is there a way to make it work with an Fx77 or F116 prefix?
Yes for the first, probably not for the second:
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x = 54, y = 52, rule = LifeHistory
40.B$39.3D$39.BDB$38.3D2B$38.5B$37.6B$37.6B$38.5B$38.6B$37.6B$37.7B$38.
6B$38.6B$38.6B$37.8B$12.A23.8B$12.3A21.9B$15.A20.9B$14.2A4.2B7.2A4.10B
$10.B3.8B7.A.A3.3B2A5B$8.4B4.7B8.A2.4B2A5B$7.6B.9B8.2A.11B$7.6B.10B9.
12B$6.19B6.2A2.10B$5.19B5.A2.A13B$5.17B7.2A3.13B$6.15B12.15B$4.17B12.
16B$2.21B9.11B3.4B$2.2BC21B3.2B.11B4.4B$.3BCBC4B.24BD6B5.4B$2.2B3C4B2.
23BDBD4B.B4.4B$.5BC4B2.23B3D5B2A4.4B$10B4.24BD3B.B2A5.3B$3B10.28B3.B7.
2B$2B12.16B.9B13.B$B13.12B7.5B$14.9B9.7B$13.11B8.3BA3B4.2A$14.7B.B2A6.
3BABA3B4.A$16.4B2.BA.A5.3BABA3B4.A.2A$15.B2A2B5.A5.4BA4B2.B2A2.A$16.2A
7.2A2.2AB.5B.BA2B2.2A$28.A.AB.7B5A$25.2A.A5.3B.2A.B2.A$25.A.2A9.BAB.2A
$37.2BA.A$34.A2.A.A.A$34.4A.2A$38.A$36.A.A$36.2A!
Re: The Hunting of the New Herschel Conduits
Posted: July 20th, 2020, 7:39 pm
by Kazyan
A very tight fit for the second:
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x = 40, y = 52, rule = LifeHistory
32.B$31.3D$31.BDB$30.3D2B$30.5B$29.6B$29.6B$30.5B$30.6B$29.6B$29.7B$
30.6B$30.6B$20.A9.6B$18.3A8.8B$17.A10.8B$17.2A9.9B$15.4B9.9B$14.3B4.
2A4.10B$14.4B3.A.A3.3B2A5B$B12.5B5.A2.4B2A5B$2B11.6B4.2A.11B$9B2.8B6.
12B$5BC14B3.2A2.10B$.2B3C13B3.A.A13B$3BCBC4B.7B4.A3.13B$.2BC15B2.2A2.
15B$.18B6.15B$3.17B4.11B3.2B$5.15B.2B.11B4.B$6.22BD6B$6.8B.13BDBD4B.B
$4.8B3.2B2A9B3D5B2A$4.2A3.B5.2B2A11BD3B.B2A$5.A10.17B3.B$2.3A12.B.3B.
9B$2.A22.5B$24.7B$24.3BA3B4.2A$23.3BABA3B4.A$23.3BABA3B4.A.2A$23.4BA
4B2.B2A2.A$21.2AB.5B.BA2B2.2A$20.A.AB.7B5A$20.A5.3B.2A.B2.A$19.2A9.BA
B.2A$29.2BA.A$26.A2.A.A.A$26.4A.2A$30.A$28.A.A$28.2A!
Re: The Hunting of the New Herschel Conduits
Posted: July 20th, 2020, 7:43 pm
by calcyman
A for awesome wrote: ↑July 20th, 2020, 7:19 pm
dvgrn wrote: ↑July 20th, 2020, 7:14 pm
New conduits that produce extra glider outputs are pretty rare, especially with numbers as low as 122. Is there a way to make it work with an Fx77 or F116 prefix?
Yes for the first, probably not for the second:
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x = 54, y = 52, rule = LifeHistory
40.B$39.3D$39.BDB$38.3D2B$38.5B$37.6B$37.6B$38.5B$38.6B$37.6B$37.7B$38.
6B$38.6B$38.6B$37.8B$12.A23.8B$12.3A21.9B$15.A20.9B$14.2A4.2B7.2A4.10B
$10.B3.8B7.A.A3.3B2A5B$8.4B4.7B8.A2.4B2A5B$7.6B.9B8.2A.11B$7.6B.10B9.
12B$6.19B6.2A2.10B$5.19B5.A2.A13B$5.17B7.2A3.13B$6.15B12.15B$4.17B12.
16B$2.21B9.11B3.4B$2.2BC21B3.2B.11B4.4B$.3BCBC4B.24BD6B5.4B$2.2B3C4B2.
23BDBD4B.B4.4B$.5BC4B2.23B3D5B2A4.4B$10B4.24BD3B.B2A5.3B$3B10.28B3.B7.
2B$2B12.16B.9B13.B$B13.12B7.5B$14.9B9.7B$13.11B8.3BA3B4.2A$14.7B.B2A6.
3BABA3B4.A$16.4B2.BA.A5.3BABA3B4.A.2A$15.B2A2B5.A5.4BA4B2.B2A2.A$16.2A
7.2A2.2AB.5B.BA2B2.2A$28.A.AB.7B5A$25.2A.A5.3B.2A.B2.A$25.A.2A9.BAB.2A
$37.2BA.A$34.A2.A.A.A$34.4A.2A$38.A$36.A.A$36.2A!
Yes for the second:
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x = 46, y = 52, rule = LifeHistory
32.B$31.3D$31.BDB$30.3D2B$30.5B$29.6B$29.6B$30.5B$30.6B$29.6B$29.7B$
30.6B$30.6B$20.A9.6B$18.3A8.8B$17.A10.8B$17.2A9.9B$15.4B9.9B$14.3B4.
2A4.10B$14.4B3.A.A3.3B2A5B$B12.5B5.A2.4B2A5B$2B11.6B4.2A.11B$9B2.8B6.
12B$5BC14B3.2A2.10B$.2B3C13B3.A.A13B$3BCBC4B.7B4.A3.13B$.2BC15B2.2A2.
15B$.18B6.16B$3.17B4.11B3.4B$5.15B.2B.11B4.4B$6.22BD6B5.4B$6.8B.13BDB
D4B.B4.4B$4.8B3.2B2A9B3D5B2A4.4B$4.2A3.B5.2B2A11BD3B.B2A5.3B$5.A10.
17B3.B7.2B$2.3A12.B.3B.9B13.B$2.A22.5B$24.7B$24.3BA3B4.2A$23.3BABA3B
4.A$23.3BABA3B4.A.2A$23.4BA4B2.B2A2.A$21.2AB.5B.BA2B2.2A$20.A.AB.7B5A
$20.A5.3B.2A.B2.A$19.2A9.BAB.2A$29.2BA.A$26.A2.A.A.A$26.4A.2A$30.A$
28.A.A$28.2A!
Kazyan posted this 3 minutes before me.
Re: The Hunting of the New Herschel Conduits
Posted: July 20th, 2020, 9:29 pm
by dvgrn
calcyman wrote: ↑July 20th, 2020, 7:43 pm
A for awesome wrote: ↑July 20th, 2020, 7:19 pm
dvgrn wrote: ↑July 20th, 2020, 7:14 pm
Is there a way to make it work with an Fx77 or F116 prefix?
Yes for the first...
Yes for the second...
Nice! It's too bad that the symmetric Spartan version of this doesn't
quite work:
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x = 27, y = 50, rule = LifeHistory
13.B$12.3D$12.BDB$11.3D2B$11.5B$10.6B$10.6B$11.5B$11.6B$10.6B$10.7B$
11.6B$11.6B$11.6B$10.8B$9.8B$9.9B$9.9B$2.2A4.10B$2.A.A3.3B2A5B$4.A2.
4B2A5B$4.2A.11B$6.12B$4.2A2.10B$2.A2.A13B$2.2A3.13B$6.15B$6.16B$5.11B
3.4B$5.11B4.4B$4.5BC6B5.4B$4.5BCBC4B.B4.4B$4.5B3C5B2A4.4B$4.7BC3B.B2A
5.3B$4.10B3.B7.2B$4.9B13.B$6.5B$5.7B$5.3BC3B$4.3BCBC3B$4.3BCBC3B$4.4B
C4B$2.2AB.5B.B2A$.A.AB.5B.BA.A$.A5.3B5.A$2A3.7B3.2A$5.2A.B.2A$6.A3.A$
3.3A5.3A$3.A9.A!
There's another non-stable conduit that has needed a way to push a beehive back by one cell, for a long time (so it just has to use a pentadecathlon, and is therefore p15). But of course this reaction is way too specific to apply to that situation.
Also, wouldn't you know, this makes yet another conduit that produces parallel gliders 17hd apart, whereas you need 18hd to be able to pry two lanes apart using Snarks (and Bandersnatches can't help).
Is there anything a little more Spartan-ish that can replace that eater4? Seems like a new use for an eater4 comes along only quite rarely, so this is a bit of a surprise.
Re: The Hunting of the New Herschel Conduits
Posted: July 21st, 2020, 12:58 am
by Entity Valkyrie 2
Couldn't the aircraft carrier be replaced by a table? Isn't a eater-on-table easier to construct?