Execution of Old Guns by Variable-Speed Firing Squad

For discussion of specific patterns or specific families of patterns, both newly-discovered and well-known.
Sokwe
Moderator
Posts: 2677
Joined: July 9th, 2009, 2:44 pm

Re: Execution of Old Guns by Variable-Speed Firing Squad

Post by Sokwe » July 25th, 2022, 9:14 am

iNoMed wrote:
July 25th, 2022, 9:07 am
Some more:
Here is the stator minimization for that messy 3-way weld in the p59 gun:

Code: Select all

x = 152, y = 97, rule = B3/S23
129b2o$128bobo$122b2o4bo$120bo2bo2b2ob4o$120b2obobobobo2bo$123bobobobo
$123bobob2o$124bo2$137b2o$128b2o7bo$42b2o84b2o5bobo$42bobo90b2o$44bo4b
2o$40b4ob2o2bo2bo75b2o$40bo2bobobobob2o23b2o50bobo$43bobobobo25bobo50b
o$44b2obobo19b2o4bo$48bo18bo2bo2b2ob4o$67b2obobobobo2bo45b2o$34b2o34bo
bobobo49bo$35bo7b2o25bobob2o38bobo6b3o21b2o$35bobo5b2o26bo42b2o7bo23bo
$36b2o77bo33bo$84b2o43b2o14b5o$43b3o38bo45bo13bo$45bo28b3o5bobo45bobo
12b3o$44bo28bo3bo4b2o47b2o15bo$72bo5bo57b2o7b4o$72bo5bo58b2ob2o3bo3b2o
$46b2o24bo5bo57bo3b2o4b3o2bo$46bo26bo3bo48bo21bob2o$47b3o7bo16b3o47b3o
21bo$49b3o6b2o63bo23b2o$52bo4b2o13b2o49b2o$47b4obo20bo15bo10bo18b2o$
47bo2bob2o16b3o16b3o7bo19bo19b2o$70bo21bo6b3o11bo6bo4b2o12bo$51b3o37b
2o18b4o12bo12b3o$29bo20bo2bo56bob4obo2b2o5bo6b2o6bo$29b2o19b2o5bobo6b
2obo16b2o21b2o7bo7b2o4bo2bo$28bobo26b2o7b2ob3o13b2o23b3obo3bobo11b3o$
58bo13bo14bo17b2o4b2o2bobo2bo4bo$66b2ob3o32bobo15b2o8b2obob2o$67bobo
34bo28bob2obo$57b2o8bobo31b2obo28bo$57b2o9bo25b2o5bobo28b2o$94b2o7bobo
$103b2obo$106bo2b2o$90bo15bobobo$66bo22bobob2o12bo16b2o$64b3o22bobobob
o18b3o7bo$3b2o58bo22b2obobobobo2bo10bo4bobo8b3o$4bo9b2o46bobo21bo2bo2b
2ob4o9bobo3bo2bo9bo$2bo10bobo29b2o9b2o5bo24b2o4bo14bo5b3o$2b5o8bo5b2o
23bo8b3o36bobo9b3o6b3o$7bo13bo24bobo6bo2bo6bo29b2o9bo6bo2bo$4b3o12bobo
25b2o7b3o3bobobo49bo$3bo15b2o35b3o3b2o2bo46bo$3bob2o59b2o$b2o3bo3b2o$o
2b3o5bo$2obo$3bo40b2o71b2o$3b2o40bo$45bobo16bo$46b2o14b3o$11b2o9b2o37b
o53bobo$12bo8b2o29b2o7b2o53bo$9b3o11bo27b3o63bo$9bo40b2o7bo53bo9bob2o$
49b2o7b3o52bo9b2obo$50b2o8bo31bo$36bo22b3o21b2o5b3o$36b3o17b2o2b2o22bo
4bo24b3o$39bo17bo3bo22bobo3bo7b2o14bo2bo$38b2o17bo27bobo3bo7bo12bo3b2o
$57bo2bo25bo3b2o7bobo10b3o$44b2o9bo2b2o40b2o11bo7bo$40b3o11bo3bo61bobo
$36bob2o2bo4bo7bobo13b4o28b2o6bo9b2o$35b5o4bo11bo14b2ob2o11b2o13bo2bo
4b6o$35b2ob4o2bo24bo2bo2b2o10bobo13bobo3bo7bo$37b2o5b2o3bo19b3o3bo11bo
5bo10bo5bo6bo$39b2ob2o3b2obo17bo2bo2bo17bo2b2o13bo$39bobobo6bo17bobo
20bo5bo13bobo$50b2o17b2o23b2ob2o$40b3o17bo29bo3b4o$37bo2b2o17bobo29bo
4bo$36bobob2o17b2o31b3o$36bobobobo25b2o24bo$33b2obobobobo2bo22bo20b2o$
33bo2bo2b2ob4o23bo20bo7b2o$35b2o4bo26b2o17b3o9bo10bo$41bobo43bo8b3o12b
o$42b2o52bo12b3o!
Edit: iNoMed posted a 152x96 form on Discord:

Code: Select all

x = 152, y = 96, rule = B3/S23
130b2o$129bobo$123b2o4bo$121bo2bo2b2ob4o$121b2obobobobo2bo$124bobobobo
$124bobob2o$125bo2$138b2o$42b2o85b2o7bo$42bobo84b2o5bobo$44bo4b2o78b2o
5b2o$40b4ob2o2bo2bo75b2o$40bo2bobobobob2o23b2o50bobo$43bobobobo25bobo
50bo$44b2obobo19b2o4bo$48bo18bo2bo2b2ob4o$67b2obobobobo2bo$34b2o34bobo
bobo49b2o$35bo7b2o25bobob2o51bo19b2o$35bobo5b2o26bo52b3o20bo$36b2o76bo
bo7bo24bo$84b2o28b2o13b2o14b5o$43b3o38bo30bo14bo13bo$45bo28b3o5bobo45b
obo12b3o$44bo28bo3bo4b2o47b2o15bo$72bo5bo57b2o7b4o$72bo5bo58b2ob2o3bo
3b2o$46b2o24bo5bo57bo3b2o4b3o2bo$46bo26bo3bo48bo21bob2o$47b3o7bo16b3o
47b3o21bo$49b3o6b2o63bo23b2o$52bo4b2o13b2o49b2o$47b4obo20bo45b2o$47bo
2bob2o16b3o17bo28bo19b2o$70bo19b3o7bo12bo6bo4b2o12bo$51b3o39bo5bo11b4o
12bo12b3o$29bo20bo2bo38b2o5b3o8bob4obo2b2o5bo6b2o6bo$29b2o19b2o5bobo6b
2obo16b2o16b2o3b2o7bo7b2o4bo2bo$28bobo26b2o7b2ob3o13b2o17b2o4b3obo3bob
o11b3o$58bo13bo14bo23b2o2bobo2bo4bo$66b2ob3o50b2o8b2obob2o$67bobo63bob
2obo$57b2o8bobo63bo$57b2o9bo33b2o28b2o$95b2o5bobob2o$95b2o7bobo$104bob
o2b2o$103b2obobobo$66bo24bo15bo16b2o$64b3o23bobob2o18b3o7bo$3b2o58bo
26bobobobo12bo4bobo8b3o$4bo9b2o46bobo22b2obobobobo2bo8bobo3bo2bo9bo$2b
o10bobo29b2o9b2o5bo23bo2bo2b2ob4o9bo5b3o$2b5o8bo5b2o23bo8b3o31b2o4bo
10b3o6b3o$7bo13bo24bobo6bo2bo6bo29bobo8bo6bo2bo$4b3o12bobo25b2o7b3o3bo
bobo29b2o18bo$3bo15b2o35b3o3b2o2bo46bo$3bob2o59b2o$b2o3bo3b2o$o2b3o5bo
$2obo$3bo40b2o71b2o$3b2o40bo$45bobo16bo$46b2o14b3o$11b2o9b2o37bo53bobo
$12bo8b2o29b2o7b2o53bo$9b3o11bo27b3o63bo$9bo40b2o7bo53bo9bob2o$49b2o7b
3o52bo9b2obo$50b2o8bo31bo$36bo22b3o21b2o5b3o$36b3o17b2o2b2o22bo4bo24b
3o$39bo17bo3bo22bobo3bo7b2o14bo2bo$38b2o17bo27bobo3bo7bo12bo3b2o$57bo
2bo25bo3b2o7bobo10b3o$44b2o9bo2b2o40b2o11bo7bo$40b3o11bo3bo61bobo$36bo
b2o2bo4bo7bobo13b4o28b2o6bo9b2o$35b5o4bo11bo14b2ob2o11b2o13bo2bo4b6o$
35b2ob4o2bo24bo2bo2b2o10bobo13bobo3bo7bo$37b2o5b2o3bo19b3o3bo11bo5bo
10bo5bo6bo$39b2ob2o3b2obo17bo2bo2bo17bo2b2o13bo$39bobobo6bo17bobo20bo
5bo13bobo$50b2o17b2o23b2ob2o$40b3o17bo29bo3b4o$37bo2b2o17bobo29bo4bo$
36bobob2o17b2o31b3o$36bobobobo25b2o24bo$33b2obobobobo2bo22bo20b2o$33bo
2bo2b2ob4o23bo20bo7b2o$35b2o4bo26b2o17b3o9bo10bo$41bobo43bo8b3o12bo$
42b2o52bo12b3o!
-Matthias Merzenich

GUYTU6J
Posts: 2200
Joined: August 5th, 2016, 10:27 am
Location: 拆哪!I repeat, CHINA! (a.k.a. 种花家)
Contact:

Re: Execution of Old Guns by Variable-Speed Firing Squad

Post by GUYTU6J » August 4th, 2022, 12:17 pm

By replacing the p5 pipsquirter in guntrue_125 by the one in guntrue_145, the bounding box is reduced by 14 cells:

Code: Select all

#C left:old, right:new
x = 133, y = 58, rule = LifeHistory
10.2A3.A18.A45.2A3.A18.A$11.A3.3A14.3A46.A3.3A14.3A$11.A.2A3.A12.A49.
A.2A3.A12.A$12.A2.3A.A11.2A49.A2.ABA.A11.2A$13.ABA.A.A8.5B50.B2A.A.A
8.5B$14.2B.A.2A5.BA3B53.2A.A.2A5.BA3B$14.2ABAB.A2B2.BABA3B52.3B2A.BAB
2.BABA3B$10.2A4.BA.2A4BA2BA4B47.2A4.2B.B3A2BA2BA4B$10.A8.2A5B2A4B48.A
8.B3A3B2A4B$12.A4.AB.A2B2.6B51.A4.2A.BAB2.6B$11.2A2.3A.2A4.5B51.2A2.
3A.2A4.5B$9.A2.A.A4.A4.7B48.A2.A.A4.A4.7B$9.2A3.A.2A.A3.4B.4B47.2A3.A
.2A.A3.4B.4B$13.A2.A.A3.4B3.4B50.A2.A.A3.4B3.4B$13.A.A5.4B5.4B49.A.A
5.4B5.4B$14.A5.4B7.4B49.A5.4B7.4B$19.4B9.4B53.4B9.4B$18.4B11.4B51.4B
11.4B$17.4B13.4B49.4B13.4B$.2A13.4B15.4B32.2A13.4B15.4B$2.A12.4B17.3B
A32.A12.4B17.4B$2.A.AB2.B5.4B19.B2AB31.A.AB2.B5.4B19.4B$3.2AB.3B3.4B
21.ABAB31.2AB.3B3.4B21.3BA$5.6B.4B23.4B32.6B.4B23.B2AB$5.10B25.4B31.
6BABAB25.ABAB$5.3B2A4B27.4B30.2B2AB3AB27.4B$6.2BABA2B29.4B30.A2B2ABA
29.4B$6.4BA3B29.4B29.BABA4B29.4B$A6.B2A5B29.4B5.2A15.A6.BA6B29.4B5.2A
$3A5.AB2.4B23.A5.4B3.B2A2B13.3A5.2B2.4B23.A5.4B3.B2A2B$3.A4.2B3.4B22.
3A4.4B3.4B16.A4.2B3.4B22.3A4.4B3.4B$2.A2.AB.B5.4B24.A4.10B15.A2.2A.B
5.4B24.A4.10B$2.4A2B2A5.4B10.A11.2A3.B.9B15.2AB5A5.4B10.A11.2A3.B.9B$
5.A.B2A6.4B7.3A11.15B6.A12.B.3A6.4B7.3A11.15B6.A$5A2B.B8.4B5.A16.13B
4.3A7.4AB2A.B8.4B5.A16.13B4.3A$A2.B.AB11.4B4.2A15.15B.A10.A2.B.2A11.
4B4.2A15.15B.A$2.A2.AB4.2A6.9B14.17B.A11.A2.AB4.2A6.9B14.17B.A$A.3A3.
A3.A7.6B14.19B2A9.A.3A3.A3.A7.6B14.19B2A$2A3.4A3.A.2A5.6B3.B2.2B2.21B
A11.2A3.4A3.A.2A5.6B3.B2.2B2.21BA$3.2A8.A2.A4.37B5A10.2A8.A2.A4.37B5A
$3A3.A7.2AB3.9BABA15B.7B.2B4.A7.3A2.2A7.2AB3.27B.7B.2B4.A$A2.A.2A8.
14BA2BA14B2.6B3.2A10.A2.2A2.A7.32B2.6B3.2A$.2A13.13BA2BA14B2.6B4.A11.
2A2.A.A8.31B2.6B4.A$11.2A4.13B2A14B4.5B4.A.A10.A.A.A10.12B3A14B4.5B4.
A.A$11.A.A3.9B2A6B.B.2B11.5B5.2A6.2A2.A.A7.2A3.9B2A2BA3B.B.2B11.5B5.
2A$14.A3.8B2A5B4.3B11.B.3B12.A2.2A2.4A3.A5.8BABA4B4.3B11.B.3B$8.2B2.
2A.A2.15B5.A2B.2A6.3BA3B12.2A2.A.A3.A4.A3.15B5.A2B.2A6.3BA3B$7.2A2BA.
B.A3.13B5.A.A2B.A6.A.A.A2.A12.A.A.A2.B2AB2.2A4.13B5.A.A2B.A6.A.A.A2.A
$7.2AB3AB.2A4.13B2.A.AB2.A5.3A.A.4A12.A.A4.2B2ABA2.2A4.13B2.A.AB2.A5.
3A.A.4A$8.2B.2B.2B.AB.8B4.2A.A.A3.A5.A5.A15.2A.AB3.3BABA2BA.2B.8B4.2A
.A.A3.A5.A5.A$14.2B3A7B6.2ABA2.4A.A3.2A6.A13.A2.A.2B.5B.2B2AB2A6B6.2A
BA2.4A.A3.2A6.A$8.2B.2B.2B.AB3.4B7.B2.A.A3.A.A9.2A14.A.A.2A2.B2ABA2BA
.2B3.4B7.B2.A.A3.A.A9.2A$7.2AB3AB.2A6.4B5.2A.2A2.A2.A.A24.2A2.A2.A.A.
ABA2.2A6.4B5.2A.2A2.A2.A.A$7.2A2BA.B.A8.4B5.A.A2.2A3.A27.A.A2.2A.A3.
2A9.3BA5.A.A2.2A3.A$8.2B2.2A.A9.4B4.A.A35.2A6.A.2A2.4A6.3BA4.A.A$14.A
11.3BA4.A44.2A.A2.A2.A7.3AB4.A$11.A.A13.3BA$11.2A15.3AB!
Is there a comprehensive list of sparked syringe glider extraction at different periods?

User avatar
iNoMed
Moderator
Posts: 611
Joined: August 29th, 2020, 3:05 pm
Location: Scotland

Re: Execution of Old Guns by Variable-Speed Firing Squad

Post by iNoMed » August 4th, 2022, 12:29 pm

Please mind your stators before posting patterns, you might end up completely missing genuine bounding box reductions in the process...

Code: Select all

x = 64, y = 56, rule = B3/S23
11b2o3bo18bo$12bo3b3o14b3o$12bob2o3bo12bo$13bo2bobobo11b2o$15b2obobo$
16bobob2o6bo$18bo3bo4bobo$17bo4bo3bo2bo$22bo4b2o$18bo3bo$16b3ob2o$15bo
4bo$16b3obo$18b2o6$2b2o$3bo$3bobo35bo$4b2o34b2o$40bobo3$10b2o$7b2o2bo$
bo7bo44b2o$b3o36bo13b2o$4bo35b3o$3bo2bo36bo$3b2ob2ob2o19bo11b2o$6bo2b
2o17b3o32bo$b6o20bo33b3o$o5bo20b2o31bo$bobo2bo5b2o47bo$2ob3o3bo3bo46b
2o$6b4o3bob2o42bo$5bo8bo2bo41b5o$6b2o7b2o46bo$8bo22bo27b2o$8bo21b3o27b
o$6b2o21bobo28bobo$5bo7b2o11b2o33b2o$2o4b4o3bo14bo$bo2bobo3bo4bo23bo3b
2o9bo$bobobo2b2o4b2o22bobo3bo6bobobo2bo$2obo7bobo2b2o19bobo3bo5b3obob
4o$bobo7b3o2bo2bo13b2obobo3bo5bo5bo$bobob2o10bobo13b2obo2b4obo3b2o6bo$
2obo7b3o2bo2bo17bobo3bobo9b2o$2bobo2bobobobo2b2o15b2ob2o2bo2bobo$2bobo
2b2obo3b2o18bobo2b2o3bo$3bo6bob2o2b4o14bobo$10b2obo2bo2bo15bo!

Code: Select all

x = 35, y = 5, rule = B3/S23
4b2o3b2o3bo3b2ob2o3b2ob2o$2o2bobo3bo2bobobobobobobobobobo$obobo2bo2bob
o2bobo2bo2bobo3bobo$2bobo3bobobobo2bo5bobo3bobob2o$b2ob2o3b2ob2o3b2o3b
2ob2o3b2ob2o!

AlbertArmStain
Posts: 1253
Joined: January 28th, 2022, 7:18 pm
Location: Planet Z

Re: Execution of Old Guns by Variable-Speed Firing Squad

Post by AlbertArmStain » August 4th, 2022, 2:09 pm

iNoMed wrote:
August 4th, 2022, 12:29 pm
Please mind your stators before posting patterns, you might end up completely missing genuine bounding box reductions in the process...

Code: Select all

x = 64, y = 56, rule = B3/S23
11b2o3bo18bo$12bo3b3o14b3o$12bob2o3bo12bo$13bo2bobobo11b2o$15b2obobo$
16bobob2o6bo$18bo3bo4bobo$17bo4bo3bo2bo$22bo4b2o$18bo3bo$16b3ob2o$15bo
4bo$16b3obo$18b2o6$2b2o$3bo$3bobo35bo$4b2o34b2o$40bobo3$10b2o$7b2o2bo$
bo7bo44b2o$b3o36bo13b2o$4bo35b3o$3bo2bo36bo$3b2ob2ob2o19bo11b2o$6bo2b
2o17b3o32bo$b6o20bo33b3o$o5bo20b2o31bo$bobo2bo5b2o47bo$2ob3o3bo3bo46b
2o$6b4o3bob2o42bo$5bo8bo2bo41b5o$6b2o7b2o46bo$8bo22bo27b2o$8bo21b3o27b
o$6b2o21bobo28bobo$5bo7b2o11b2o33b2o$2o4b4o3bo14bo$bo2bobo3bo4bo23bo3b
2o9bo$bobobo2b2o4b2o22bobo3bo6bobobo2bo$2obo7bobo2b2o19bobo3bo5b3obob
4o$bobo7b3o2bo2bo13b2obobo3bo5bo5bo$bobob2o10bobo13b2obo2b4obo3b2o6bo$
2obo7b3o2bo2bo17bobo3bobo9b2o$2bobo2bobobobo2b2o15b2ob2o2bo2bobo$2bobo
2b2obo3b2o18bobo2b2o3bo$3bo6bob2o2b4o14bobo$10b2obo2bo2bo15bo!
That includes you too:

Code: Select all

x = 64, y = 56, rule = B3/S23
11b2o3bo18bo$12bo3b3o14b3o$12bob2o3bo12bo$13bo2bobobo11b2o$15b2obobo$
16bobob2o6bo$18bo3bo4bobo$17bo4bo3bo2bo$22bo4b2o$18bo3bo$16b3ob2o$15b
o4bo$16b3obo$18b2o6$2b2o$3bo$3bobo35bo$4b2o34b2o$40bobo3$10b2o$7b2o2b
o$bo7bo44b2o$b3o36bo13b2o$4bo35b3o$3bo2bo36bo$3b2ob2ob2o19bo11b2o$6bo
2b2o17b3o32bo$b6o20bo33b3o$o5bo20b2o31bo$bobo2bo5b2o47bo$2ob3o3bo3bo46b
2o$6b4o3bob2o42bo$5bo8bo2bo41b5o$6b2o7b2o46bo$8bo22bo27b2o$8bo21b3o27b
o$6b2o21bobo28bobo$5bo7b2o11b2o33b2o$6b4o3bo14bo$2o2bobo3bo4bo23bo3b2o
9bo$o2bobo2b2o4b2o22bobo3bo6bobobo2bo$bobo7bobo2b2o19bobo3bo5b3obob4o
$2obo7b3o2bo2bo13b2obobo3bo5bo5bo$3bob2o10bobo13b2obo2b4obo3b2o6bo$3b
o7b3o2bo2bo17bobo3bobo9b2o$4bo2bobobobo2b2o15b2ob2o2bo2bobo$2bobo2b2o
bo3b2o18bobo2b2o3bo$2b2o6bob2o2b4o14bobo$10b2obo2bo2bo15bo!

HotWheels9232
Posts: 559
Joined: May 25th, 2022, 9:10 pm
Location: Help! I got dragged away into the middle of nowhere by a LWSS which suddenly launched from a soup

Re: Execution of Old Guns by Variable-Speed Firing Squad

Post by HotWheels9232 » August 4th, 2022, 3:20 pm

AlbertArmStain wrote:
August 4th, 2022, 2:09 pm
iNoMed wrote:
August 4th, 2022, 12:29 pm
Please mind your stators before posting patterns, you might end up completely missing genuine bounding box reductions in the process...

Code: Select all

rlw
That includes you too:

Code: Select all

rle
And you:

Code: Select all

x = 64, y = 56, rule = LifeHistory
11.2A3.A18.A$12.A3.3A14.3A$12.A.2A3.A12.A$13.A2.A.A.A11.2A$15.2A.A.A$
16.A.A.2A6.A$18.A3.A4.A.A$17.A4.A3.A2.A$22.A4.2A$18.A3.A$16.3A.2A$15.
A4.A$16.3A.A$18.2A6$2.2A$3.A$3.A.A35.A$4.2A34.2A$40.A.A3$10.2A$7.2A2.
A$.A7.A44.2A$.3A36.A13.2A$4.A35.3A$3.A2.A36.A$3.2A.2A.2A19.A11.2A$6.A
2.2A17.3A32.A$.6A20.A33.3A$A5.A20.2A31.A$.A.A2.A5.2A47.A$2A.3A3.A3.A
46.2A$6.4A3.A.2A42.A$5.A8.A2.A41.5A$6.2A7.2A46.A$8.A22.A27.2C$8.A21.
3A27.C$6.2A21.A.A27.AD.D$5.A7.2A11.2A31.2A2D$6.4A3.A14.A$2A2.A.A3.A4.
A23.A3.2A9.A$A2.A.A2.2A4.2A22.A.A3.A6.A.A.A2.A$.A.A7.A.A2.2A19.A.A3.A
5.3A.A.4A$2A.A7.3A2.A2.A13.2A.A.A3.A5.A5.A$3.A.2A10.A.A13.2A.A2.4A.A
3.2A6.A$3.A7.3A2.A2.A17.A.A3.A.A9.2A$4.A2.A.A.A.A2.2A15.2A.2A2.A2.A.A
$2.A.A2.2A.A3.2A18.A.A2.2A3.A$2.2A6.A.2A2.4A14.A.A$10.2A.A2.A2.A15.A!
(Lifehistory for marking)
My rules:
B34q/S23-k(ObliquePufferLife) and
B2n3-n4c5c/S234cz5cPM me to get some help on making rules!

Code: Select all

x = 8, y = 5, rule = B3-k/S23
2o3b2o$obo2bobo$2bo2bo$bo$b2o!

User avatar
calcyman
Moderator
Posts: 2936
Joined: June 1st, 2009, 4:32 pm

Re: Execution of Old Guns by Variable-Speed Firing Squad

Post by calcyman » August 4th, 2022, 5:47 pm

HotWheels9232 wrote:
August 4th, 2022, 3:20 pm
AlbertArmStain wrote:
August 4th, 2022, 2:09 pm
iNoMed wrote:
August 4th, 2022, 12:29 pm
Please mind your stators before posting patterns, you might end up completely missing genuine bounding box reductions in the process...

Code: Select all

rle
That includes you too:

Code: Select all

rle
And you:

Code: Select all

rle
Am I missing something? iNoMed's stator reduction actually does shrink the bounding box, but neither of the subsequent stator reductions appear to do so.
What do you do with ill crystallographers? Take them to the mono-clinic!

GUYTU6J
Posts: 2200
Joined: August 5th, 2016, 10:27 am
Location: 拆哪!I repeat, CHINA! (a.k.a. 种花家)
Contact:

Re: Execution of Old Guns by Variable-Speed Firing Squad

Post by GUYTU6J » August 4th, 2022, 8:56 pm

Their reductions is population-wise, and hey, why aren't we taking population (or density) as a second criterion for size after bounding box?

And can someone look at my original question?

AlbertArmStain
Posts: 1253
Joined: January 28th, 2022, 7:18 pm
Location: Planet Z

Re: Execution of Old Guns by Variable-Speed Firing Squad

Post by AlbertArmStain » August 5th, 2022, 7:16 am

GUYTU6J wrote:
August 4th, 2022, 8:56 pm
Their reductions is population-wise, and hey, why aren't we taking population (or density) as a second criterion for size after bounding box?

And can someone look at my original question?
You’ve got a good point, in fact, reducing population might help with welding.

EDIT:
Speaking of population reductions:

Code: Select all

x = 64, y = 56, rule = LifeHistory
11.2A3.A18.A$12.A3.3A14.3A$12.A.2A3.A12.A$13.A2.ABA.A11.2A$14.B2A.A.A
8.5B$15.BA.A.2A5.BA3B$15.3BAB.BAB2.BABA3B$17.AB.2BA3BA2BA4B$20.2BA4B2A
4B$18.AB.BAB2.6B$16.3A.2A4.5B$15.A4.A4.7B$16.3A.A3.4B.4B$18.2A3.4B3.4B
$22.4B5.4B$21.4B7.4B$20.4B9.4B$19.4B11.4B$18.4B13.4B$2.2A13.4B15.4B$3.
A12.4B17.4B$3.A.AB2.B5.4B19.3BA$4.2AB.3B3.4B21.B2AB$6.6B.4B23.ABAB$6.
10B25.4B$6.9B27.4B$7.3B2A2B29.4B$7.2A2BA3B29.4B$.A6.BA6B29.4B5.2A$.3A
5.2B2.4B23.A5.4B3.B2A2B$4.A4.2B3.4B22.3A4.4B3.4B$3.A2.AB.B5.4B7.2A15.
A4.10B$3.2AB2AB2A5.4B6.A15.2A3.B.9B$6.A.B2A6.4B6.A14.15B6.A$.6AB.B8.4B
4.2A16.13B4.3A$A3.B.AB11.4B2.2B17.15B.A$.A.A2.AB4.2A6.8B15.17B.A$2A.3A
3.A3.A7.7B13.19B2A$6.4A3.A.2A5.7B2.B2.2B2.21BA$5.A8.A2.A4.37B5A$6.2A7.
2AB3.27B.7B.2B4.A$8.A7.15BA16B2.6B3.2A$8.A8.13B3A15B2.6B4.A$6.2A10.11B
ABA15B4.5B3.A$5.A7.2A3.8B2A7B.B.2B11.5B3.2A$6.4A3.A5.9BA5B4.3B11.B.3B
$2A2.A.A3.A4.A3.15B5.A2B.2A6.3BA3B$A2.A.A2.2A2B2.2A4.13B5.A.A2B.A6.A.
A.A2.A$.A.A4.3BABA2.2A4.13B2.A.AB2.A5.3A.A.4A$2A.AB3.3B3A2BA.BA.8B4.2A
.A.A3.A5.A5.A$3.A.2A.5B.3BABA7B6.2ABA2.4A.A3.2A6.A$3.A.2B2.2B3A2BA.BA
3.4B7.B2.A.A3.A.A9.2A$4.A2.A.A.ABA2.2A6.4B5.2A.2A2.A2.A.A$2.A.A2.2A.A
3.2A9.4B5.A.A2.2A3.A$2.2A6.A.2A2.4A6.4B4.A.A$10.2A.A2.A2.A7.4B4.A!
The syringe variant works on all syringes.
I found it awhile ago (1 1/2 years):
AlbertArmStain wrote:
July 19th, 2022, 12:42 pm
I found this syringe variant a year and a half ago:

Code: Select all

x = 25, y = 34, rule = LifeHistory
5.C$5.3C$8.C$7.C.C$7.C.CB$8.C3B$10.4B$10.6B$10.7B$9.8B.4B.B$6.B.13B.B
2C$5.18B2C$5.16B.2B$4.6BD10B$3.A7BD8B$.2ACD4B3D7B$A.D.D2.12B$2AD5.10B
$.2D5.2B2C6B$7.3B2C6B$8.10B$8.8B.B2C.C$7.7B3.B2CB3C$7.6B6.B4.C$8.6B4.
2C.3C$8.5B4.C2.2C$7.8B.C.C$7.8BC.C.2C.C$8.5B.2BCB.C.2C$8.3D2B2.2B2.C$
9.BDB4.B.2C$9.3D3.C.C2.2C$10.B4.2C2.C2.C$20.2C!
It could be useful for a self-destruct. Although, it's more than likely to be known.

EDIT:
It's known, nobody has ever thought of using it in a self-destruct though.

User avatar
Entity Valkyrie 2
Posts: 1758
Joined: February 26th, 2019, 7:13 pm
Contact:

Re: Execution of Old Guns by Variable-Speed Firing Squad

Post by Entity Valkyrie 2 » August 6th, 2022, 3:59 am

GUYTU6J wrote:
August 4th, 2022, 12:17 pm
Is there a comprehensive list of sparked syringe glider extraction at different periods?
Not a comprehensive list, but there is a gallery in one of my user pages:
User:Entity Valkyrie 2/Periodic syringe variant
Bx222 IS MY WORST ENEMY.

Please click here for my own pages.

My recent rules:
StateInvestigator 3.0
B3-kq4ej5i6ckn7e/S2-i34q6a7
B3-kq4ej5y6c/S2-i34q5e
Move the Box

GUYTU6J
Posts: 2200
Joined: August 5th, 2016, 10:27 am
Location: 拆哪!I repeat, CHINA! (a.k.a. 种花家)
Contact:

Re: Execution of Old Guns by Variable-Speed Firing Squad

Post by GUYTU6J » August 6th, 2022, 4:07 am

Entity Valkyrie 2 wrote:
August 6th, 2022, 3:59 am
GUYTU6J wrote:
August 4th, 2022, 12:17 pm
Is there a comprehensive list of sparked syringe glider extraction at different periods?
Not a comprehensive list, but there is a gallery in one of my user pages:
User:Entity Valkyrie 2/Periodic syringe variant
There should be two choices, one with optimized width and the other optimized height. The guntrue_125 reduction we are talking about works by replacing the latter with the former, and so I wonder if more reductions can be made that way.

User avatar
Kazyan
Posts: 1247
Joined: February 6th, 2014, 11:02 pm

Re: Execution of Old Guns by Variable-Speed Firing Squad

Post by Kazyan » August 7th, 2022, 2:34 am

Smaller p437 (6720 -> 5082 area):

Code: Select all

x = 66, y = 77, rule = B3/S23
33b2o$32bobo$26b2o4bo$24bo2bo2b2ob4o$24b2obobobobo2bo$27bobobobo$27bob
ob2o$28bo2$41b2o$32b2o7bo$32b2o5bobo$39b2o7$29b2o$4b2o20bo3bo$4bobo2b
2o15b4o$bo4bo3bo$b5ob3o16b2ob3o$5bobo17bobobo2bo$b3obobo13b2o2bobo3b2o
$o2bob2o14bobobo2bo$2o21bobob2o$22b2obo$7bo17bob2o$6bobo16bobo2bo$5bo
2bo11b2o4bo2b2o30b2o$6b2o11bo2bo38bo$20b2o4bo2b2o32bo$3b2o20bobo2bo12b
2o14b5o$2bobo20bob2o15bo13bo$2bo19b2obo18bobo12b3o$b2o4b2o14bobob2o16b
2o15bo$8bo12bobobo2bo30b4o$5b3o6b2o5b2o2bobo26b2o3bo3b2o$5bo8b2o9b2o
27b2o4b3o2bo$6b2o54bob2o$7bo54bo$7bobo51b2o$8b2o2$53b2o$53bo$27bo12b3o
11b3o$25b3o14bo13bo$24bo16bo$24b2o5$48bo$47bobo$47bobo$46b2ob2o$45bo2b
o2bo$44bobobobobo$45bobobobo$47bobo$7b2o38bo2bo$6bobo39b2o$6bo$5b2o$
47b2o$23b2o22b2o$23b2o$15b2o$15b2o6b2o$24bo$23bo17bo$23b2o17bo$40b3o!
Found by changing some values in gloc.py to make it work with the speed tunnel instead of syringe.

EDIT (8/10/22): Slightly smaller p736 gun, using a new p32 honey farm hassler discovered today:

Code: Select all

x = 53, y = 29, rule = LifeHistory
2.2B46.2A$2.3B44.B2A$2B3A22.4B3.B.9B.B2.B$2B3AB21.4B.5BA14B$.B3A.B19.
2A8B2A13B2A$3.B.3AB6.A.A8.2A7B2A14B2A$4.B3A2B3.3A.3A7.B.7B2A2B2A10B$
5.3A2B2.A7.A8.23B$5.3B2.B.2A5.2A5.3B.B.3B$6.2B.5B5.4B3.26B$2A5.A4B9.
15B2A2B2A10B$A.A2.BABA4B2A2B.17B2A14B2A$2.A2.3A5B2A21B2A13B2A$2.4ABA
2BA2BA2BA20BA14B$4.B2A2BABA2BABA12B.B.3B.9B.B2.B$2.4ABA2BA2BA2BA10B
22.B2A$2.A2.3A5B2A6B3.4B22.2A$A.A2.BABA4B2A2B.3B4.4B$2A5.A4B14.4B$6.
2B.5B13.4B$5.3B2.B.2A14.4B$5.3A2B2.A16.4B$4.B3A2B3.3A14.4B$3.B.3AB6.A
15.4B$.B3A.B25.4B$2B3AB28.2C$2B3A29.C$2.3B30.3C$2.2B33.C!
Tanner Jacobi
Coldlander, a novel, available in paperback and as an ebook. Now on Amazon.

nokangaroo
Posts: 81
Joined: February 16th, 2017, 6:21 pm

Re: Execution of Old Guns by Variable-Speed Firing Squad

Post by nokangaroo » August 10th, 2022, 5:54 pm

Smaller gun_38

Code: Select all

x = 113, y = 99, rule = LifeHistory
33.2A5.2A9.B$33.A.A.BA2B.A7.2AB$35.A2BAB.2A7.B2ABAB$35.A2.A2.5B5.6A$
36.2AB4.5B4.B3.A$38.A3.4B3A2B3AB3A$34.3AB3.4B3ABAB.BA2B.AB$33.A2.2A4.
3BA3BA2B2.B.2A$32.A.A2B.A4.3B3A7.B2AB$32.A.A2.A.A4.5B9.2A$33.A3.A.A3.
7B8.A$38.A3.4B.4B8.3A$41.4B3.4B9.A14.A$40.4B5.4B23.3A$39.4B7.4B14.A
10.A$38.4B9.4B10.A2.3A7.2A$37.4B11.4B9.3A3.A6.6B$36.4B13.4B11.3A9.B2A
4B$35.4B15.4B7.2A.A4.BA3.3B2A6B$4.2A4.A14.3B2.B2.5B17.4B4.A2.A.B4.2AB
.13B$4.A4.A.A13.12B19.4B3.2A2.ABA.A3B2.12B$6.A2.A2.A8.2B.4B3AB3A4B12.
A5.4B7.B2AB.A2.13B$2.4A.A.2A.A7.7BA11B12.3A4.4B8.A.2A2.12B$.A3.B.A2.A
.2A5.8BAB2A12B6.2A3.A4.4B7.A.A4.10B$.A2.2A.BA.A2.BAB2.9BA15B5.A.A.2A.
A4.4B5.2A2.A5.7B$2A.A.4A.A3BAB.10BA8B2A2B2A3B2.A2BAB.A.A5.4B7.2A5.6B
2A$3.A.BA.2BA.2BA6B2ABA3BA6BA6BA4B.4B.A.2A5.4B12.7BABA$3.2A.2B2A.3BAB
.4BA2BA3BA4BA12B3.2BA.A9.4B11.6B.A3B$5.2A3.2AB2A2.5B2A3BA4B4A4BA2BAB
4.ABA.A10.4B9.6B3.4B$3.2A.A.2A3.AB4.13BA11B6.2A.2A10.4B4.B2.3BA3B4.4B
9.2A$2.A.A.2A.A.2AB5.11B.2B3A7B23.4B.7BABA2B5.4B9.A$2.A2.A3.A.A9.8B.
3B3A7B24.11BABA2B6.4B8.A.2A$3.A.A3.A.A10.7B2.10B14.A5.A6.11BA3B7.4B8.
A2B.A$4.A5.A14.10B2.7B10.A.A3.A.A6.12B.B2A6.4B9.3BA$23.7B3A3B.8B9.A.A
3.A2.A6.10B2.BA.A6.4B8.2A.2BA$23.7B3A2B.11B5.B2A.A.2A.A.A7.3BA3B7.A7.
4B9.2A.2B$11.2A.2A6.11BA13B4.BA3.2A.A.2A9.ABA3B7.2A7.4B7.B2A.2A$12.A.
ABA4.BA2BA4B4A4BA3B2A5B2.2AB2A3.2A12.2A2B18.4B7.2A.2B$12.A.A2B3.12BA
4BA3BA2BA4B.BA3B.2A2B.2A11.4B18.4B6.BA3BA$9.2A.A.4B.4BA6BA6BA3BAB2A6B
A2B.A2B.AB.A12.4B18.4B4.B.B.ABAB$10.A.A.BA2BA2.3B2A2B2A8BA10B.BA3BA.
4A.A.2A10.4B18.4B3.3B2.BA$10.A.2A.A.A5.15BA9B2.BAB2.A.AB.2A2.A12.4B
18.4B2.3B$11.A3.2A6.12B2ABA8B5.2A.A2.A.B3.A13.4B18.6BAB$12.3A12.11BA
7B7.A.2A.A.4A.2A.A10.4B18.4BABAB$14.A12.4B3AB3A4B.2B8.A2.A2.A3.A.A.2A
11.3BA18.3BA2BA$29.12B6.2A5.A2.A.A.2A18.3BA16.5B2A2B$28.5B2.B2.3B5.B
2AB5.2A2.A.A20.3AB14.10B$28.3B16.3B9.A.A2.2A3.A13.4B12.4B.6B$26.4B16.
B.B9.2A.2A2.A2.A.A13.4B10.4B3.3B.B2A$26.2A18.5B8.B2.A.A3.A.A14.4B8.4B
5.B2.BA.A$27.A18.6B6.2ABA2.4A.A16.4B6.4B11.AB$24.3A19.8B4.2A.A.A3.A
19.4B4.A3B3.2A6.2A$24.A22.13B2.A.AB2.A19.4B2.B2AB3.A2.A2.B3AB$45.13B
5.A.A2B.A19.5BABA5.2A.AB.A.AB$44.15B5.A2B.2A20.6B8.3A.A.A$44.15B4.3B
17.A7.4B9.A.A2.3A$43.17B.A.2B16.3A6.6B7.2A.A5.A$43.13BA3BA11B8.A8.8B
5.A2.A5.2A$42.13BA4BA3B2A7B7.2A6.10B5.2A$41.14BA2BA2BA3BA7B2.B.5B5.4B
.7B$40.2AB3.10B4A3BABA7B.6B6.4B.9B$39.A2.A4.11B2A3B2A16B4.4B3.9B$38.A
.2A5.6B3.B2.2B2.25B4.B3A6B$38.A7.6B14.21B4.BA2BA6BA$37.2A6.9B14.19B3.
2BA3BA2B.3BA$44.4B4.2A15.22BA4BA4.3AB$43.4B5.A16.23BA4B5.4B$12.2A4.A
14.3B2.B2.5B7.3A11.8B2.19B7.4B$12.A4.A.A13.8B3AB10.A11.2A3.B5.B2A11B
2AB9.4B$14.A2.A2.A8.2B.2BA8BA3B12.A8.A7.3B2A16B8.4B$10.4A.A.2A.A7.5B
3A6BA4B12.3A3.3A6.A.2AB2.6B.2B5.2A9.4B$9.A3.B.A2.A.2A5.5BABABA14B6.2A
3.A2.A6.3AB2AB2.6B8.A11.4B$9.A2.2A.BA.A2.BAB2.6BA3B2A13B5.A.A.2A.A.A
5.A4.B5.5B9.3A9.4B$8.2A.A.3BA.2AB3A.8BA2BAB3A12B2.2BABA.A.A.2A5.3A.2A
5.4B11.A10.3BA$11.A.BA.2BA.B3A11B6A14B.4B.A.A2.A7.A.A4.5B24.ABA$11.2A
.2ABA.A2B2A.11BA5B2A10B3.BAB.A2.2A8.A.A4.2A28.2A$13.BA3.AB3A2.17BA10B
4.2BA.A13.A6.A29.B$11.2A.B.2A3.2A4.8BA16B6.2A.2A16.3A$10.A.A.2A.A.2AB
5.9BAB.12B28.A$10.A2.A3.A.A9.8B.13B$11.A.A3.A.A10.7B2.10B14.A5.A$12.A
5.A14.10B2.7B10.A.A3.A.A$31.13B.8B9.A.A3.A2.A$31.12B.BA9B5.B2A.A.2A.A
.A$19.2A.2A6.16BA8B4.2A3.2A.B.2A$20.A.A2B4.10BA17B2.3ABA3.AB$20.A.BAB
3.10B2A5BA11B.2A2BA.AB2A.2A$17.2A.A.4B.14B6A11B3AB.A2B.AB.A$18.A.A.AB
A2B2.12B3ABA2BA8B.3AB2A.A3B.A.2A$18.A.2A.A.A5.13B2A3BA6B2.BAB2.A.AB.
2A2.A$19.A3.2A6.14BABABA5B5.2A.A2.A.B3.A$20.3A12.4BA6B3A5B7.A.2A.A.4A
$22.A12.3BA8BA2B.2B8.A2.A2.A$37.B3A8B13.A.A4.A$36.5B2.B2.3B14.A4.2A$
35.4B$34.BA3B$29.2A.ABABAB$29.A.2A.2AB!

User avatar
calcyman
Moderator
Posts: 2936
Joined: June 1st, 2009, 4:32 pm

Re: Execution of Old Guns by Variable-Speed Firing Squad

Post by calcyman » August 10th, 2022, 6:48 pm

nokangaroo wrote:
August 10th, 2022, 5:54 pm
Smaller gun_38

Code: Select all

x = 113, y = 99, rule = LifeHistory
Reduced by 12 rows by taking advantage of the engine being double-barrelled:

Code: Select all

x = 113, y = 87, rule = LifeHistory
41.2A$41.A.A$43.A4.2A$39.4A.2A2.A2.A$39.A2.A.A.A.A.2A$41.BABABA.A$42.
B2ABA.A$43.2B.BA$42.3B$33.2A6.4B$34.A6.B2A3B$34.A.AB3.B2A3B$35.2AB.
10B$37.13B$37.14B$37.15B24.A$39.8B2.4B23.3A$39.6B5.4B14.A10.A$38.9B4.
4B10.A2.3A7.2A$37.4B4.2A5.3BA9.3A3.A6.6B$36.4B5.A7.ABAB11.3A9.2B2A3B$
35.4B7.3A4.B2A2B7.2A.A4.2A3.4B2A5B$4.2A4.A14.3B2.B2.5B10.A6.4B4.A2.A.
A4.2BA.2A5B2A4B$4.A4.A.A13.12B19.4B3.2A2.3B.BA2B2.4BA2BA2BAB$6.A2.A2.
A8.2B.8B3A4B12.A5.4B7.AB2A.B2.4BABA2BABAB$2.4A.A.2A.A7.12BA2BA3B12.3A
4.4B8.A.2A2.BA3BA2BA2BA$.A3.A.A2.A.2A5.11B2A2B2A7B6.2A3.A4.4B7.A.A4.
2A5B2AB$.A2.AB.2A.A2.A2B2.12BABA2BA7B5.A.B.2A.A4.4B5.2A2.A5.2AB2A2B$
2A.A.A3B.2A4B.13BABA12B2.2B3A.A.A5.4B7.2A5.ABABA3B$3.A.2B.2AB.A19B2A
13B.B3A.A.2A5.4B12.10B$3.2A.2B2A.2A3B.14B2A5BA7B3.3B.A9.4B11.2B3AB.4B
$5.BA3.B2A2B2.16BA3B2A6B4.B2A.A10.4B9.6B3.4B$3.2A.A.2A3.2B4.14B3A8B6.
2A.2A10.4B4.B2.3BA3B4.4B9.2A$2.A.A.2A.A.3A5.11B.BA5BA4B23.4B.7BABA2B
5.4B9.A$2.A2.A3.A.A9.8B.4BA3BA4B24.11BABA2B6.4B8.A.AB$3.A.A3.A.A10.7B
2.5B2A3B14.A5.A6.11BA3B7.4B8.3A.B$4.A5.A14.3B2A5B2.7B10.A.A3.A.A6.12B
.B2A6.4B9.4A$23.4BA3BA4B.8B9.A.A3.A2.A6.10B2.BA.A6.4B8.BA.3A$23.4BA5B
AB.11B5.3A.A.2A.A.A7.7B7.A7.4B9.BA.AB$11.2A.2A6.8B3A14B4.2B3.2A.A.2A
9.6B7.2A7.4B7.3B.2A$12.A.2AB4.6B2A3BA16B2.2B2AB3.AB12.4B18.4B7.2A.AB$
12.A.3B3.7BA5B2A14B.3B2A.2A2B.2A11.4B18.4B6.BAB2AB$9.2A.A.3AB.13B2A
19BA.B2A.2B.A12.4B18.4B4.B.A.3AB$10.A.A.3A2B2.12BABA13B.4B2A.3BA.A.2A
10.4B18.4B3.3B2.BA$10.A.2A.B.A5.7BA2BABA12B2.2BA2.A.2A.BA2.A12.4B18.
4B2.2AB$11.A3.2A6.7B2A2B2A11B5.2A.A2.A.A3.A13.4B18.4BA2BA$12.3A12.3BA
2BA12B7.A.2A.A.4A.2A.A10.4B18.3BAB2AB$14.A12.4B3A8B.2B8.A2.A2.A3.A.A.
2A11.3BA18.2BAB2AB$29.12B6.2A5.A2.A.A.2A18.3BA16.4B2A3B$28.5B2.B2.3B
5.B2AB5.2A2.A.A20.3AB14.10B$27.4B16.3B9.A.A2.2A3.A13.4B12.4B.6B$26.4B
16.B.B9.2A.2A2.A2.A.A13.4B10.4B3.3B.B2A$25.4B17.5B8.B2.A.A3.A.A14.4B
8.4B5.B2.BA.A$9.2A13.4B18.6B6.2ABA2.4A.A16.4B6.4B11.BA$10.A12.4B19.8B
4.2A.A.A3.A19.4B4.4B3.2A6.2B$10.A.AB2.B5.4B21.13B2.A.AB2.A19.4B2.4B3.
A2.A2.AB3A$11.2AB.3B3.4B20.13B5.A.A2B.A19.8B5.2A.AB.A.2B$13.6B.4B20.
15B5.A2B.2A20.3BA2B8.B2A.A.B$13.10B21.15B4.3B17.A7.ABAB9.B.A2.3A$13.
2B2A5B21.17B.B.2B16.3A6.2B2A2B7.2A.A5.A$14.A2BA3B22.29B8.A8.8B5.A2.A
5.2A$14.BABA4B20.9B2A2B2A7B3A6B7.2A6.10B5.2A$15.BA6B18.9BABA2B2A7BA8B
2.B.5B5.4B.7B$15.3B2.4B16.2AB3.6BA12BA7B.6B6.4B.9B$11.AB2.3B3.4B14.A
2.A4.28BA5B4.4B3.9B$10.BABA.B.B4.4B12.A.2A5.6B3.B2.2B2.8BABAB2A11B4.
10B$11.A3BAB6.BABA11.A7.6B14.5B3A2B2A9B4.11BA$12.2B.2A7.B2AB9.2A6.9B
14.3BABA2BA10B3.9B.3BA$12.2A.2AB7.A3B15.4B4.2A15.2A3B2A16B2A3B4.3AB$
12.2B.2A9.4B13.4B5.A16.2AB3A16BA2BA2B5.4B$13.A2B.2A8.4B11.4B7.3A11.5B
2AB2.15B2A2B7.4B$15.A3B9.6B7.4B10.A11.2A3.B5.17B9.4B$16.A.2BA8.4B7.4B
24.A7.21B8.4B$18.2A.A8.4B5.4B22.3A6.A.2AB2.6B.2B5.2A9.4B$21.A9.4B3.4B
9.A13.A6.3AB2AB2.6B8.A11.4B$21.2A5.A3.4B.4B8.3A19.A4.B5.5B9.3A9.4B$
23.A3.A.A3.7B8.A23.3A.2A5.4B11.A10.3BA$19.4A.A2.A.A4.5B9.2A24.A.A4.5B
24.ABA$19.A2.A.A2B.A4.6B7.B2AB24.A.A4.2A28.2A$23.A2.2A4.4B2A4B2.B.2A
27.A6.A29.B$24.3AB3.4BA2BA2B.BA2B.AB30.3A$28.A3.3BABA3B3AB3A31.A$26.
2AB4.3BAB4.B3.A$25.A2.A2.5B5.6A$25.A2BAB.2A7.B2ABAB$23.A.A.BA2B.A7.2A
B$23.2A5.2A9.B!
What do you do with ill crystallographers? Take them to the mono-clinic!

User avatar
iNoMed
Moderator
Posts: 611
Joined: August 29th, 2020, 3:05 pm
Location: Scotland

Re: Execution of Old Guns by Variable-Speed Firing Squad

Post by iNoMed » August 13th, 2022, 5:52 am

p154 gun reduced from 71x60 to 72x56 by going into welding overdrive (along with a p7 sparker from jslife's p7 billiard tables) in order to fit a p7 pipsquirter:

Code: Select all

x = 72, y = 56, rule = B3/S23
37b2o$35b3o5b2o$34bo4bo2bo2bo$33bob4obo2bobo$30bo2bobo4b2obobob2o$29bo
bobob2o2bo5bob2o$30b2ob2obo2bob3obo$18bo8bo4bo4b2o5b2o$17bobo2b3o2b4o
3b3o2b2obo$19bo2bob3o3b2ob2o2bo2bob4o$17b2o3bo4bo9bobo6bo$19bo3b2ob2o
8b2ob7o3b2o$20b2ob2o24bo$17b2ob2o3bo15b5o4bo4b2o$17bo4bo3b2o12bo5bo2b
2o5bo$18b3obo2bo14b2o2bo2bo3b2obo$20b3o2bobo16bo3b2o3b3o$26bo19bobob2o
4bo11b2o$47bo2bo4b2o11b2o$31b2o15bobo$30bo18bo16b4o$65bo3bo$66bo$64bob
o$34b2o28b2o$35bob2o29b2o$39bo29bo$15b3o21bo29bobo$15bo21b3o30b2o$15bo
$16b2obo$19b2o$2b2o$3bo43b2o$3o45bo$o4bo18bo20b3o$4bobo15b2o21bo$4bo2b
o$3b2obobo19bo$2bo2b2o3bo16bobo2b3o$2b2o3bo2bo2b2o14bo2bob3o$4b2o2bo5b
o12b2o3bo4bo$4bo4b5o15bo3b2ob2o$5bo24b2ob2o$4b2o3b7ob2o8b2ob2o3bo$8bo
6bobo9bo4bo3b2o$9b4obo2bo2b2ob2o3b3obo2bo$12bob2o2b3o3b4o2b3o2bobo$9b
2o5b2o4bo4bo8bo$9bob3obo2bob2ob2o$6b2obo5bo2b2obobobo$6b2obobob2o4bobo
2bo$9bobo2bob4obo$9bo2bo2bo4bo$10b2o5b3o$16b2o!

Code: Select all

x = 35, y = 5, rule = B3/S23
4b2o3b2o3bo3b2ob2o3b2ob2o$2o2bobo3bo2bobobobobobobobobobo$obobo2bo2bob
o2bobo2bo2bobo3bobo$2bobo3bobobobo2bo5bobo3bobob2o$b2ob2o3b2ob2o3b2o3b
2ob2o3b2ob2o!

nokangaroo
Posts: 81
Joined: February 16th, 2017, 6:21 pm

Re: Execution of Old Guns by Variable-Speed Firing Squad

Post by nokangaroo » August 14th, 2022, 3:00 pm

Slightly smaller gun_49

Code: Select all

x = 113, y = 72, rule = LifeHistory
72.2A4.A$73.A3.A.A$73.A.3A.A$74.A3.A$76.A$66.AB.2B2A2.3A$65.A.2AB3AB
4.A$65.A.6BA3.2A$64.2A.2A6B2.6B$62.2BA.BA2B.A3B4.B2A4B$62.3BAB3.BA3B
2.3B2A6B$62.3BA.2BAB.A2B.13B$62.6B2A.2A3.12B$63.A6B.A3.13B$63.B3AB2A.
A3.12B$64.2A2B.BA5.10B$78.7B$78.8B$77.10B$77.6B.4B$76.6B3.3BA$5.B3.B
30.A11.2A18.B2.3BA3B4.B2AB$4.7B28.A.A9.B2AB15.7BABA2B5.ABAB$.2B.3A4B.
2B17.A3.2A2.A.A9.3B16.7BABA2B6.4B$2A2BA2BA5B2A2.A12.A.A2.A2.2A.2A9.B.
B14.9BA3B7.4B$2AB.2AB2A2B.B2A2.3A10.A.A3.A.A2.B8.5B14.11B.B2A6.4B$.B.
3BABA3B.B6.A10.A.4A2.AB2A6.6B15.9B2.BA.A6.4B$4.3B.3B8.2A12.A3.A.A.2A
4.8B15.7B7.A7.4B$19.4B9.A2.BA.A2.13B17.6B7.2A7.4B$4.3B.3B10.3B7.A.2BA
.A5.13B16.2BAB18.4B10.2A$.B.3BABA3B.B6.4B7.2A.2BA5.15B16.2B2A18.4B9.A
$2AB.2AB2A2B.B2A5.5B10.3B4.15B17.2A2B18.4B10.A$2A2BA2BA5B2A4.6B11.2B.
B.8B2A7B17.4B11.2A5.4B5.5A$.2B.3A4B.2B5.8B2.20BAB2A5B18.4B11.A5.4B4.A
$4.7B7.33B2A6B18.4B10.A.AB.7B2.B3A$5.B3.B9.14B3A13BAB2A7B18.4B10.2AB.
7B3.2B.A$4.2B14.7B.7BA13B2A4B3.B2A18.4B11.12B4A$3.4B12.8B4A3BA19B4.A
2.A18.4B10.7B2A3BAB2.2A$.7B11.7B2A10B2.2B2.B3.6B5.2A.A18.4B9.7B2A2B.B
3A2.A$10B8.7B2ABA2BA3B14.6B7.A19.4B8.10B3.B.A.2A$13B2.2B.8BABAB2AB14.
9B6.2A19.4B6.8B8.A$.26B2ABAB15.2A4.4B27.4B4.9B7.2A$3.20B.4B2A2B16.A5.
4B27.4B2.4B2.3B$3.16B2A2B3.8B2.2A7.3A7.4B27.8B3.5B$3.16B2A2B5.B3.2A2.
2A7.A10.4B27.2B2A2B7.2A$4.18B10.A24.4B19.A7.2B2A8.A$11.4B.3B.B12.7A
12.B.3B.4B16.3A6.2BA3B8.3A$12.BABA24.A10.8B2A8B8.A8.8B9.A$13.B2AB10.A
7.2A2.2A3.B5.2B2A5B3AB2A5B7.2A6.10B$14.A3B7.3A7.2A2.8B3.2B2A6B2AB3A4B
2.B.5B5.4B.7B$15.4B5.A16.8B.9B3AB2A5B.6B6.4B.9B$16.4B4.2A15.19B2A16B
4.4B3.9B$9.2A6.9B14.15B.2B2.25B4.10B$10.A7.6B14.17B8.21B4.A11B$10.A.
2A5.6B3.B2.2B2.19B11.19B3.B3A5B.BABA$11.A2.A4.35B12.23B2A3B4.B2AB$12.
2AB3.9B3A15B.7B13.23BABA2B5.A3B$13.13B2AB2A23B10.8B2.6BA2BA6B2AB7.4B$
14.12B2A2BA24B9.2A3.B5.3B2A10B2A9.4B$15.13B2A14B2.8B11.A7.6BAB3A10B8.
4B$15.9B2A6B.B.2B11.6B8.3A6.A.2AB2.3BA2B.2B5.2A9.4B$16.8B2A5B4.3B10.
5B9.A6.3AB2AB2.6B8.A11.4B$16.15B5.A2B.2A7.4B15.A4.B5.5B9.3A9.4B$17.
13B5.A.A2B.A7.4B16.3A.2A5.4B11.A10.4B$19.13B2.A.AB2.A9.B.B2A16.A.A4.
5B24.4B$18.8B4.2A.A.A3.A12.BA.A15.A.A4.2A28.4B$18.6B6.2ABA2.4A.A13.A
16.A6.A29.3BA$18.5B8.B2.A.A3.A.A12.2A19.3A31.ABA$18.B.B9.2A.2A2.A2.A.
A33.A34.2A$19.3B9.A.A2.2A3.A$18.B2AB9.A.A$19.2A11.A!

User avatar
iNoMed
Moderator
Posts: 611
Joined: August 29th, 2020, 3:05 pm
Location: Scotland

Re: Execution of Old Guns by Variable-Speed Firing Squad

Post by iNoMed » August 15th, 2022, 10:55 am

It works fine if you switch the p7 sparker up-top for something different:

Code: Select all

x = 113, y = 70, rule = B3/S23
67b2o$58b2o7bo$49bobo4bo2bo2b2o5bo5bo$49b2obo3b2obobobo4b2o5b3o$52bo6b
obo16bo$49b2ob2o2b2obo5b2o10b2o$50bo4bobobo11b3o4b3o$48bo3bob2obobobo
3b2obo10b3o$46b5obobo2b2obobo2b2ob2o8b5o$45bo9b3o7b2o4bo2bo2bo5bo$46b
5obobo2b2obobo2b2ob2o6b2o2bo2b2o$48bo3bob2obobobo3b2obo6b3obobob3o$50b
o4bobobo11b3o2b2o2bo2b2o$49b2ob2o2b2obo5b2o10bo5bo$52bo6bobo16b5o$49b
2obo3b2obobobo4b2o9b3o$49bobo4bo2bo2b2o5bo10bo$58b2o7bo$67b2o$40bo11b
2o24bo$39bobo10b2o23bobo$8b2o21bo3b2o2bobo35bobo$2o5bob2o2b2o2bo12bobo
2bo2b2ob2o35bo$2o5bobo3b2o2b3o10bobo3bobo43b2o$7bo12bo10bob4o2bob2o39b
obo$5bo13b2o12bo3bobob2o41bo$32bo3bobo45b2o$5bo25bo3bobo70b2o$7bo23b2o
3bo71bo$2o5bobo3b2o32b2o61bo$2o5bob2o2b2o32b2o41b2o6bo7b5o$8b2o33b2o
46bo5b3o5bo$42bo2bo45bobo3b4o5b3o$42b2ob2o45b2o7bo7bo$44bo14b2o37bo2b
2o3b4o$58bo2bo35bobob3o2bo3b2o$59b2obo35bo2b2o4b3o2bo$62bo32bo5bo7bob
2o$11bo50b2o32b5o8bo$9bo2bo34b2o37bo10b3o8b2o$8bo3bo35bo38b2o9bo$8bo3b
o6b2o15b2o7b3o38b2o$8bo3b2o5b2o11b2o2b2o7bo11b3o40b2o$9bo2bo19bo24bo
22bo19bo$33b7o18bo19b3o20b3o$40bo36bo25bo$27bo7b2o2b2o11b2o23b2o$25b3o
7b2o15b2o$24bo18bo30bo$24b2o16bob2o28bo$9b2o31bo3bo31bo$10bo31b2o2bo
31b2o19bo$10bob2o28b2ob2o31b3o19bo$11bo2bo24bo3b2o33b2o9b2o7b3o$12b2o
8b2o13b2o35b2ob2o9bo2bo$21bobo14b2o35b3o11b2o$20b2o42b2o10bo$21bobo41b
o$22b2o38b3o6bob2o17b2o$62bo6b3ob2o17bo$36bo3b2o26bo24b3o$35bobo3bo27b
3ob2o20bo$34bobo3bo12b2o16bobo$30b2obobo3bo13bobo15bobo4b2o$30b2obo2b
4obo13bo16bo6bo$34bobo3bobo12b2o19b3o$30b2ob2o2bo2bobo33bo$31bobo2b2o
3bo$19b2o10bobo$19b2o11bo!

Code: Select all

x = 35, y = 5, rule = B3/S23
4b2o3b2o3bo3b2ob2o3b2ob2o$2o2bobo3bo2bobobobobobobobobobo$obobo2bo2bob
o2bobo2bo2bobo3bobo$2bobo3bobobobo2bo5bobo3bobob2o$b2ob2o3b2ob2o3b2o3b
2ob2o3b2ob2o!

User avatar
Entity Valkyrie 2
Posts: 1758
Joined: February 26th, 2019, 7:13 pm
Contact:

Re: Execution of Old Guns by Variable-Speed Firing Squad

Post by Entity Valkyrie 2 » August 17th, 2022, 6:55 am

Kazyan wrote:
August 7th, 2022, 2:34 am
Smaller p437 (6720 -> 5082 area):

Code: Select all

x = 66, y = 77, rule = B3/S23
33b2o$32bobo$26b2o4bo$24bo2bo2b2ob4o$24b2obobobobo2bo$27bobobobo$27bob
ob2o$28bo2$41b2o$32b2o7bo$32b2o5bobo$39b2o7$29b2o$4b2o20bo3bo$4bobo2b
2o15b4o$bo4bo3bo$b5ob3o16b2ob3o$5bobo17bobobo2bo$b3obobo13b2o2bobo3b2o
$o2bob2o14bobobo2bo$2o21bobob2o$22b2obo$7bo17bob2o$6bobo16bobo2bo$5bo
2bo11b2o4bo2b2o30b2o$6b2o11bo2bo38bo$20b2o4bo2b2o32bo$3b2o20bobo2bo12b
2o14b5o$2bobo20bob2o15bo13bo$2bo19b2obo18bobo12b3o$b2o4b2o14bobob2o16b
2o15bo$8bo12bobobo2bo30b4o$5b3o6b2o5b2o2bobo26b2o3bo3b2o$5bo8b2o9b2o
27b2o4b3o2bo$6b2o54bob2o$7bo54bo$7bobo51b2o$8b2o2$53b2o$53bo$27bo12b3o
11b3o$25b3o14bo13bo$24bo16bo$24b2o5$48bo$47bobo$47bobo$46b2ob2o$45bo2b
o2bo$44bobobobobo$45bobobobo$47bobo$7b2o38bo2bo$6bobo39b2o$6bo$5b2o$
47b2o$23b2o22b2o$23b2o$15b2o$15b2o6b2o$24bo$23bo17bo$23b2o17bo$40b3o!
I think you may have forgotten that the pi-to-2G now has a smaller, spartan form. (not that it reduces bounding box or anything)

Code: Select all

x = 66, y = 76, rule = B3/S23
33b2o$32bobo$26b2o4bo$24bo2bo2b2ob4o$24b2obobobobo2bo$27bobobobo$27bob
ob2o$28bo2$41b2o$32b2o7bo$32b2o5bobo$39b2o7$29b2o$4b2o20bo3bo$4bobo2b
2o15b4o$bo4bo3bo$b5ob3o16b2ob3o$5bobo17bobobo2bo$b3obobo13b2o2bobo3b2o
$o2bob2o14bobobo2bo$2o21bobob2o$22b2obo$7bo17bob2o$6bobo16bobo2bo$5bo
2bo11b2o4bo2b2o30b2o$6b2o11bo2bo38bo$20b2o4bo2b2o32bo$3b2o20bobo2bo12b
2o14b5o$2bobo20bob2o15bo13bo$2bo19b2obo18bobo12b3o$b2o4b2o14bobob2o16b
2o15bo$8bo12bobobo2bo30b4o$5b3o6b2o5b2o2bobo26b2o3bo3b2o$5bo8b2o9b2o
27b2o4b3o2bo$6b2o54bob2o$7bo54bo$7bobo51b2o$8b2o2$53b2o$53bo$27bo26b3o
$25b3o11b3o14bo$24bo16bo$24b2o14bo$47bo$46bobo$47bo4$45bo$44bobo$44bob
o$45bo2$45bo$7b2o35bobo$6bobo35bobo$6bo38bo$5b2o2$23b2o$23b2o22bo$15b
2o29bobo$15b2o6b2o22bo$24bo15bo$23bo17bo$23b2o14b3o!
Bx222 IS MY WORST ENEMY.

Please click here for my own pages.

My recent rules:
StateInvestigator 3.0
B3-kq4ej5i6ckn7e/S2-i34q6a7
B3-kq4ej5y6c/S2-i34q5e
Move the Box

GUYTU6J
Posts: 2200
Joined: August 5th, 2016, 10:27 am
Location: 拆哪!I repeat, CHINA! (a.k.a. 种花家)
Contact:

Re: Execution of Old Guns by Variable-Speed Firing Squad

Post by GUYTU6J » August 20th, 2022, 10:02 am

Two R126 and two R152 makes a period-556 (= 139 × 4) Herschel loop with good empty corners for fitting filters. Both gun_1112 (556 × 2, formerly 5265 cells) and gun_1668 (556 × 3, formerly 5025 cells) (EDIT: and subsequently gun_834 using two Herschels) are reduced to 63 × 79 = 4977 cells:

Code: Select all

x = 223, y = 79, rule = LifeHistory
11.2B4.2A72.2B4.2A72.2B4.2A$9.5B2.A.A70.5B2.A.A70.5B2.A.A$8.8B2A70.8B
2A70.8B2A$8.7B.B71.7B.B71.7B.B$8.6B.B72.6B.B72.6B.B$9.2BA5B72.2BA5B
72.2BA5B$9.BABA5B71.BABA5B71.BABA5B$9.BABA4B72.BABA4B72.BABA4B$10.BA
5B73.BA5B73.BA5B$7.3B.6B28.A41.3B.6B28.A41.3B.6B28.A$4.13B26.3A38.13B
26.3A38.13B26.3A$4.10B.B13.A12.A41.10B.B13.A12.A41.10B.B13.A12.A$.14B
5.A8.3A5.B4.2A37.14B5.A8.3A5.B4.2A37.14B5.A8.3A5.B4.2A$.14B5.3A9.A3.
8B37.14B5.3A9.A3.8B37.14B5.3A9.A3.8B$16B7.A7.2A3.6B38.16B7.A7.2A3.6B
38.16B7.A7.2A3.6B$.15B6.2A3.B3.11B39.15B6.2A3.B3.11B39.15B6.2A3.B3.
11B$.14B7.8B3.8B40.14B7.8B3.8B40.14B7.8B3.8B$2.14B8.16B42.14B8.16B42.
14B8.16B$4.13B7.16B44.13B7.16B44.13B7.16B$4.13B6.19B42.13B6.19B42.13B
6.19B$3.14B4.21B41.14B4.21B41.14B4.21B$4.13B.32B34.13B.32B34.13B.32B$
2.3B.45B31.3B.45B31.3B.45B$2.2A2.22B.8BA14B30.2A2.22B.8BA14B30.2A2.
22B.8BA14B$3.A3.B.19B2.B.4BABA12B32.A3.B.19B2.B.4BABA12B32.A3.B.19B2.
B.4BABA12B$3A5.20B7.A2BA12B29.3A5.20B7.A2BA12B29.3A5.20B7.A2BA12B$A8.
18B8.B2A15B.2A24.A8.18B8.B2A15B.2A24.A8.18B8.B2A15B.2A$9.11B15.18BA.A
33.11B15.18BA.A33.11B15.18BA.A$2.2A8.9B12.2AB2.14B.BA27.2A8.2BA6B12.
2AB2.14B.BA27.2A8.2BA6B12.2AB2.14B.BA$3.A2.2A3.11B10.A.AB2.4B2.8B31.A
2.2A3.2B3A6B10.A.AB2.4B2.8B31.A2.2A3.2B3A6B10.A.AB2.4B2.8B$3.A.A.A3.
3BA3B.4B9.A6.B4.8B31.A.A.A3.B2A2BAB.4B9.A6.B4.8B31.A.A.A3.B2A2BAB.4B
9.A6.B4.8B$4.A.B5.B3A2B2.4B7.2A13.7B31.A.B5.2B3AB2.4B7.2A13.7B31.A.B
5.2B3AB2.4B7.2A13.7B$6.2B3.B2A2BAB3.4B21.6B34.2B3.7B3.4B21.6B34.2B3.
7B3.4B21.6B$5.BA2B.3B5A4.4B20.6B33.BA2B.8B4.4B20.6B33.BA2B.8B4.4B20.
6B$5.A.A5B5AB4.4B19.7B32.A.A11B4.4B19.7B32.A.A11B4.4B19.7B$6.A.5B2AB
2A6.3B19.8B2.2A.A26.A.10B6.3B19.8B2.2A.A26.A.10B6.4B18.2A6B2.2A.A$3.
3A4.B2ABABA2B7.B2A15.12BA.2A23.3A4.9B7.B2A15.12BA.2A23.3A4.9B6.4B15.B
A2BA7BA.2A$3.A6.B5A3B7.BA.A14.11B28.A6.A2B3A3B7.BA.A14.11B28.A6.A2B3A
3B7.4B14.BA2BA6B$9.2B2A6B10.A14.5B2A4B34.BAB2A2BA2B10.A14.5B2A4B34.BA
B2A2BA2B8.5B.B10.BA9B$9.2BA7B10.2A.2A10.5B2A3B35.3BA3B2AB10.2A.2A10.
5B2A3B35.3BA3B2AB9.3B.3B9.B2A3BA3B$8.4BA3BA2B14.A10.10B34.9BAB14.A10.
10B34.9BAB10.B.5B8.2BA2B2ABAB$8.4BA3B2AB14.A.AB7.9B6.A28.6BA2BAB14.A.
AB7.9B6.A28.6BA2BAB14.4B7.3B3A2BA6.A$3.2A.A8BA3B15.2AB7.9B4.3A23.2A.A
7BA2BAB15.2AB7.9B4.3A23.2A.A7BA2BAB15.4B6.9B4.3A$3.A.2A2.8B19.3B6.10B
.A26.A.2A2.6B2A19.3B6.10B.A26.A.2A2.6B2A18.4B6.10B.A$10.7B19.4B4.11BA
.A32.7B19.4B4.11BA.A32.7B19.4B4.11BA.A$11.6B20.4B4.8B.2BAB33.6B20.4B
4.8B.2BAB33.6B20.4B4.8B.2BAB$11.6B21.4B3.7B3.2B34.6B21.4B3.7B3.2B34.
6B21.4B3.7B3.2B$10.7B13.2A7.4B2.6B5.B.A31.7B13.2A7.4B2.6B5.B.A31.7B
13.2A7.4B2.B3A2B5.B.A$11.8B4.B6.A9.4B.7B3.A.A.A31.8B4.B6.A9.4B.7B3.A.
A.A31.8B4.B6.A9.4B.BA2B2AB3.A.A.A$11.8B2.4B2.BA.A10.11B3.2A2.A31.8B2.
4B2.BA.A10.11B3.2A2.A31.8B2.4B2.BA.A10.6B3A2B3.2A2.A$8.AB.14B2.B2A12.
9B8.2A27.AB.14B2.B2A12.9B8.2A27.AB.14B2.B2A12.6BA2B8.2A$7.A.A18B15.
11B33.A.A18B15.11B33.A.A18B15.11B$7.2A.15B2AB8.18B8.A24.2A.15B2AB8.
18B8.A24.2A.15B2AB8.18B8.A$12.12BA2BA7.20B5.3A29.12BA2BA7.20B5.3A29.
12BA2BA7.20B5.3A$12.12BABA4B.B2.19B.B3.A32.12BABA4B.B2.19B.B3.A32.12B
ABA4B.B2.19B.B3.A$11.14BA8B.22B2.2A30.14BA8B.22B2.2A30.14BA8B.22B2.2A
$12.45B.3B31.45B.3B31.45B.3B$13.32B.13B34.32B.13B34.32B.13B$21.21B4.
14B41.21B4.14B41.21B4.14B$21.19B6.13B32.A9.19B6.13B32.A9.19B6.13B$23.
16B7.13B32.3A9.16B7.13B32.3A9.16B7.13B$23.16B8.14B33.A8.16B8.14B33.A
8.16B8.14B$22.8B3.8B7.14B31.2A7.8B3.8B7.14B31.2A7.8B3.8B7.14B$21.11B
3.B3.2A6.15B31.5B3.11B3.B3.2A6.15B31.5B3.11B3.B3.2A6.15B$20.7B3.2A7.A
7.16B21.2A9.3B2.7B3.2A7.A7.16B21.2A9.3B2.7B3.2A7.A7.16B$19.8B3.A9.3A
5.14B21.A.A8.13B3.A9.3A5.14B21.A.A8.13B3.A9.3A5.14B$18.4B3.B5.3A8.A5.
14B21.A8.B.8B3.B5.3A8.A5.14B21.A8.B.8B3.B5.3A8.A5.14B$17.5B11.A13.B.
10B21.2A.2A.B3.11B12.A13.B.10B21.2A.2A.B3.11B12.A13.B.10B$16.5B25.13B
22.A.A.A2B.A11B25.13B22.A.A.A2B.A11B25.13B$15.4B2.3B22.6B.3B25.A.A.2A
3BA10B25.6B.3B25.A.A.2A3BA10B25.6B.3B$14.4B3.3BAB2.B17.5BAB27.2A.A2.
5B2A8B25.5BAB27.2A.A2.5B2A8B25.5BAB$13.4B3.2A2B2AB3A16.4BABAB26.A2.4A
2BAB2A6B.B2A23.4BABAB26.A2.4A2BAB2A6B.B2A23.4BABAB$12.4B4.2A4B4A15.5B
ABAB27.2A2.A2B.B2A7B.BA.A21.5BABAB27.2A2.A2B.B2A7B.BA.A21.5BABAB$11.
4B6.B2.2A3B17.5BA2B29.2A6.7B5.A22.5BA2B29.2A6.7B5.A22.5BA2B$10.4B12.
3B18.B.6B28.A7.2B.4B5.2A22.B.6B28.A7.2B.4B5.2A22.B.6B$9.4B33.B.7B30.A
9.4B27.B.7B30.A9.4B27.B.7B$8.A3B33.2A8B29.2A10.3BA25.2A8B29.2A10.3BA
25.2A8B$7.A3B33.A.A2.5B43.3BA23.A.A2.5B43.3BA23.A.A2.5B$7.3A34.2A4.2B
46.3A23.2A4.2B46.3A23.2A4.2B!
Inserting a <s>Rarity's</s> Charity's p16 results in a gun_2224 at 65 × 79 = 5135 cells:

Code: Select all

x = 65, y = 79, rule = LifeHistory
13.2B4.2A$11.5B2.A.A$10.8B2A$10.7B.B$10.6B.B$11.2BA5B$11.BABA5B$11.BA
BA4B$12.BA5B$9.3B.6B28.A$6.13B26.3A$6.10B.B13.A12.A$3.14B5.A8.3A5.B4.
2A$3.14B5.3A9.A3.8B$2.16B7.A7.2A3.6B$3.15B6.2A3.B3.11B$3.14B7.8B3.8B$
4.14B8.16B$6.13B7.16B$6.13B6.19B$5.14B4.21B$6.13B.32B$4.3B.45B$4.2A2.
22B.8BA14B$5.A3.B.19B2.B.4BABA12B$2.3A5.20B7.A2BA12B$2.A8.18B8.B2A15B
.2A$11.11B15.18BA.A$4.2A8.9B12.2AB2.14B.BA$5.A2.2A3.11B10.A.AB2.4B2.
8B$5.A.A.A3.3BA3B.4B9.A6.B4.8B$6.A.B5.B3A2B2.4B7.2A13.7B$8.2B3.B2A2BA
B3.4B21.6B$7.BA2B.3B5A4.4B20.6B$7.A.A5B5AB4.4B19.7B$8.A.5B2AB2A6.3B
19.8B2.2A.A$5.3A4.B2ABABA2B7.B2A15.12BA.2A$5.A6.B5A3B7.BA.A14.11B$11.
2B2A6B10.A14.5B2A4B$11.2BA7B10.2A.2A10.5B2A3B$10.4BA3BA2B14.A10.10B$
10.4BA3B2AB14.A.AB7.9B6.A$5.2A.A8BA3B15.2AB7.9B4.3A$5.A.2A2.8B19.3B6.
10B.A$12.7B19.4B4.11BA.A$13.6B20.4B4.8B.2BAB$13.6B21.4B3.7B3.2B$12.7B
13.2A7.4B2.6B5.B.A$13.8B4.B6.A9.4B.7B3.A.A.A$13.8B2.4B2.BA.A10.11B3.
2A2.A$10.AB.14B2.B2A12.9B8.2A$9.A.A18B15.11B$9.2A.15B2AB8.18B8.A$14.
12BA2BA7.20B5.3A$14.12BABA4B.B2.19B.B3.A$13.14BA8B.22B2.2A$14.45B.3B$
15.32B.13B$23.21B4.14B$23.19B6.13B$12.2A11.16B7.13B$10.2B2AB10.16B8.
14B$6.2B2.2B2A10.8B3.8B7.14B$5.3B2.2B3AB7.11B3.B3.2A6.15B$5.B2A2B.BAB
AB6.7B3.2A7.A7.16B$4.AB2A4BA2BAB4.8B3.A9.3A5.14B$3.A.4B2.2BABAB3.4B3.
B5.3A8.A5.14B$.4B.A4.3BA2B.6B11.A13.B.10B$2B2ABA5.2B.B2.6B25.13B$2B2A
B5.BA2B3.4B2.3B22.6B.3B$2.3B5.A.A3.4B3.3BAB2.B17.5BAB$2.2B7.A3.4B3.2A
2B2AB3A16.4BABAB$14.4B4.2A4B4A15.5BABAB$13.4B6.B2.2A3B17.5BA2B$12.4B
12.3B18.B.6B$11.4B33.B.7B$10.A3B33.2A8B$9.A3B33.A.A2.5B$9.3A34.2A4.2B!
Finally, gun_3336 at 63 × 83 = 5229 cells with a blocker following tremi-Snark:

Code: Select all

x = 63, y = 83, rule = LifeHistory
11.2B4.2A$9.5B2.A.A$8.8B2A$8.7B.B$8.6B.B$9.2BA5B$9.BABA5B$9.BABA4B$
10.BA5B$7.3B.6B28.A$4.13B26.3A$4.10B.B13.A12.A$.14B5.A8.3A5.B4.2A$.
14B5.3A9.A3.8B$16B7.A7.2A3.6B$.15B6.2A3.B3.11B$.14B7.8B3.8B$2.14B8.
16B$4.13B7.16B$4.13B6.19B$3.14B4.21B$4.9B3AB.32B$2.3B.45B$2.2A2.7BABA
12B.8BA14B$3.A3.B.3BA15B2.B.4BABA12B$3A5.4BA3BA11B7.A2BA12B$A8.18B8.B
2A15B.2A$9.3B2A2BA3B15.18BA.A$2.2A8.9B12.2AB2.14B.BA$3.A2.2A3.11B10.A
.AB2.4B2.8B$3.A.A.A3.7B.4B9.A6.B4.8B$4.A.B5.6B2.4B7.2A13.7B$6.2B3.7B
3.4B21.6B$5.BA2B.8B4.4B20.6B$5.A.A11B4.4B19.7B$6.A.10B6.3B19.8B2.2A.A
$3.3A4.9B7.B2A15.12BA.2A$3.A6.9B7.BA.A14.11B$9.10B10.A14.5B2A4B$9.3B
2A5B10.2A.2A10.5B2A3B$8.4B2A5B14.A10.10B$8.11B14.A.AB7.9B6.A$3.2A.A
12B15.2AB7.9B4.3A$3.A.2A2.8B19.3B6.10B.A$10.7B19.4B4.11BA.A$11.6B20.
4B4.8B.2BAB$11.6B21.4B3.7B3.2B$10.7B13.2A7.4B2.6B5.B.A$11.8B4.B6.A9.
4B.7B3.A.A.A$11.8B2.4B2.BA.A10.11B3.2A2.A$8.AB.14B2.B2A12.9B8.2A$7.A.
A18B15.11B$7.2A.15B2AB8.18B8.A$12.12BA2BA7.20B5.3A$12.12BABA4B.B2.19B
.B3.A$11.14BA8B.22B2.2A$12.45B.3B$13.32B.13B$21.21B4.14B$11.A9.19B6.
13B$11.3A9.16B7.13B$14.A8.16B8.14B$13.2A7.8B3.8B7.14B$13.5B3.11B3.B3.
2A6.15B$4.2A9.3B2.7B3.2A7.A7.16B$3.A.A8.13B3.A9.3A5.14B$3.A8.B.8B3.B
5.3A8.A5.14B$2A.AB.B3.11B12.A13.B.10B$.A.A.2AB.12B25.13B$.A.A.2A14B
25.6B.3B$2A.A2.5B2A8B25.5BAB$A2.4A3BA2BA5B.B2A23.4BABAB$.2A2.BAB.2B2A
6B.BA.A21.5BABAB$3.2A6.7B5.A22.5BA2B$3.A7.2B.4B5.2A22.B.6B$5.A8.5B27.
B.7B$4.2A9.5B25.2A8B$12.3B2.4B23.A.A2.5B$7.B2.BA3B3.4B22.2A4.2B$6.3AB
2A2B2A3.4B$6.4A4B2A4.3BA$7.3B2A2.B6.3BA$7.3B12.3A!
EDIT: It turned out that gun_556 was reduced, so at least gun_1112 and gun_2224 above are obsolete. Alas.
Last edited by GUYTU6J on August 30th, 2022, 11:14 am, edited 1 time in total.

AbhpzTa
Posts: 593
Joined: April 13th, 2016, 9:40 am
Location: Ishikawa Prefecture, Japan

Re: Execution of Old Guns by Variable-Speed Firing Squad

Post by AbhpzTa » August 21st, 2022, 9:07 am

Smaller p129 gun (3969 -> 3264):

Code: Select all

x = 64, y = 51, rule = LifeHistory
37.A$37.3A$40.A$10.A28.2A$9.A.A27.4B19.2A$9.A.A29.5B.B3.B10.A$7.3A.2A
19.3B4.17B3.BA.A$6.A4.B20.3B3.20B.B2A$7.3AB2A18.29B$9.A.2A.B14.9B2A
20B$11.5B.2B10.9B3A19B$12.5B2AB9.5B2A3B2A18B$12.3B2AB2AB4.9BABA2B2A
19B$5.2A5.2B6A2B2.B2A8B4A12B2.6B$4.B2AB3.B2AB2A2BA4B2ABA3B.3BAB2A10B
6.3B$5.3B3.B2A2BA2BA4B4A8B2AB2.6B$3.2B.B4.B3A7B2A2BABA9B4.4B$2.20B2A
3B2A5B$.14BABA4B3A9B$.11B6A5B2A9B$2.10BA3BA15B$2.10BA12B3.3B$.AB2.B.
17B4.3B$A.A6.13B$2A8.14B$10.10B2.2A$5.2A.7B.3B3.A$5.A.A10B5.3A$6.AB.
9B7.A$9.8B$9.8B$5.BA.5BA3B$4.BABA.4B2A2B$4.2ABA5BAB2AB$4.6A5B2AB$3.2A
5B2A2BABAB$3.4BA2BA6B$4.7BA3B$3.3BA9B$3.2A2BA2BA6B$3.BABA10B$3.4B2A7B
$4.14B3.2A$9.9B2.A2.A$9.10B2.A.A$9.11B2A2.2A$9.11B2.2A2.A$10.10B2A2.
2A$10.3BA4B.B.A.A$11.3BA2B3.A2.A$12.3AB5.2A!
100009436650194649 = 94649 * 1056634900001

User avatar
calcyman
Moderator
Posts: 2936
Joined: June 1st, 2009, 4:32 pm

Re: Execution of Old Guns by Variable-Speed Firing Squad

Post by calcyman » August 21st, 2022, 10:33 am

AbhpzTa wrote:
August 21st, 2022, 9:07 am
Smaller p129 gun (3969 -> 3264):
Down to 3008 cells:

Code: Select all

x = 64, y = 47, rule = LifeHistory
37.A$37.3A$40.A$10.A28.2A$9.A.A27.4B19.2A$9.A.A29.5B.B3.B10.A$7.3A.2A
19.3B4.4BABA4BA5B3.BA.A$6.A4.B20.3B3.5BA4B2A4BA3B.B2A$7.3AB2A18.12B3A
B3A4B2A4B$9.A.2A.B14.18B2A6B2A3B$11.5B.2B10.16BA2BA6BA4B$12.8B9.16B2A
7BA4B$12.9B4.19BA15B$5.2A5.10B2.22B3A2B2.6B$4.B2AB3.3B2A15B.15B2A6.3B
$5.3B3.3B3A22B2.6B$3.2B.B4.7BA19B4.4B$2.6BA7B2A16B$.6BA6BA2BA16B$.5B
2A6B2A18B$2.5B2A4B3AB3A12B$2.6BA4B2A4BA5B3.3B$.AB2.B.5BC4BABA4B4.3B$A
.A6.3B3D7B$2A8.3BD10B$10.10B2.2A3.A.A22.2B$5.2A.7B.3B3.A3.A.2A21.5B$
5.A.A10B5.4A23.7B$6.AB.9B10.2A19.8B$9.8B8.3A.A19.9B$9.8B8.A2.B20.5B3A
2B$8.9B11.3B19.4BA2BAB$9.8B10.6B16.9BAB$9.9B.A3.B2.10B11.8BA2BAB$7.3B
2D2BD2BA3BA15B3.2B2.11BA4B$6.2A.2B3D2BA9BD3B2A15BD10BA$6.2A4BD2B2A5B
2A2B2D2B2A15BDBD4BA3BA$.2A4.B.5BCD7BA3B2D18B3D7B$2.A6.6BDCBA4BA3BD21B
D4B3A$2.A.AB4.3BABDA3B3A3BD26B2.B$3.2AB.6B2A2BA2.3B5.13B.4B$5.2B2A6B
3AB3.3B3.7B.B4.4B$5.BA.AB2.4BAB5.2A15.4B$6.2A9.2B4.A15.4B$16.BA2B4.3A
11.A3B$16.A.A7.A10.A3B$17.A19.3A!
What do you do with ill crystallographers? Take them to the mono-clinic!

GUYTU6J
Posts: 2200
Joined: August 5th, 2016, 10:27 am
Location: 拆哪!I repeat, CHINA! (a.k.a. 种花家)
Contact:

Re: Execution of Old Guns by Variable-Speed Firing Squad

Post by GUYTU6J » August 22nd, 2022, 8:44 am

How exactly are intermitting glider guns constructed for a desired period without making it a plain signal loop? Here are my first attempts: an excessively large period-2025 (45×45) gun based on one of the two-engine guns.

Code: Select all

x = 121, y = 121, rule = LifeHistory
83.2B$81.6B$79.10B$77.3BABA2BABA3B$76.2ABA2BA2BA2BAB2A$77.3BABA2BABA
3B18.2B$79.10B18.6B$81.6B18.2A6B2A$73.2A8.2B.2B15.A4BA2BA4BA$73.A.A7.
5B14.BA4BA2BA4BAB$74.AB2.5B3A5B.B10.A4BA2BA4BA$75.3B3A2B2A6BA3BA9.2A
6B2A$75.3B2A2B2A7B2A2BAB10.6B$74.4B2A13B2ABAB8.2B.2B8.2A$74.A20BA2B8.
5B7.A.A$73.BA20BA3B2.A.13B2.BA$73.5B.2B2.B2.2B2.2B4.4BA2BA3BA5BA5B$
75.2B5.3B11.3BA3B4AB2AB2A2B2A2B$81.B2AB11.3BA3BAB3A5B2A2B2AB$82.2A12.
3BA5B2A7BA4BA$95.5BA17B2AB$94.9BA2.2B2.B2.2B.ABA2B$93.4B2.4B6.3B5.AB$
92.4B3.4B6.B2AB$91.4B3.5B7.2A$90.4B3.4B$89.4B3.4B$88.4B3.4B$87.4B3.4B
$86.4B3.4B$85.4B3.4B$84.4B3.4B$83.4B3.4B$82.4B3.4B$81.4B3.4B$80.4B3.
4B$79.4B3.2A2B$78.4B3.ABAB$77.4B3.3BA$76.4B3.4B$75.4B3.4B$45.B28.4B3.
4B$44.3B26.4B3.4B$44.3A25.4B3.4B$43.2BA2B23.4B3.4B$31.2B10.2BA2B22.4B
3.4B$29.6B7.2B3A2B20.4B3.4B$27.2A6B2A5.7B19.4B3.A3B$25.A4BA2BA4BA2.3B
3A3B17.BA2B3.B2AB$24.BA4BA2BA4BAB.3B3A3B16.2A2B3.BABA$25.A4BA2BA4BA3.
7B16.2B2A3.4B$27.2A6B2A5.2B3A2B15.4B3.4B$29.6B8.2BA2B15.4B3.4B$21.2A
8.2B.2B7.2BA2B14.4B3.4B$21.A.A7.5B8.3A14.4B3.4B$22.AB2.13B.B.5B4.2A7.
4B3.4B$23.5B2A3B2A11B4.A2.A5.4B3.4B$23.4BABA3BABA11B.AB.A.A4.4B3.4B$
22.5BA7BA10B.BA2B.A4.4B3.4B$22.5B3A3B3A9B3.A.B5.4B3.4B$21.24B4.2BA3.
4B3.4B$21.5B.2B2.B2.2B2.2B2.4B3.2A3.4B3.4B$23.2B5.3B10.2BAB6.4B3.4B$
29.BA2B11.2B2A4.4B3.4B$30.2A13.2A2B2.4B3.4B$46.8B3.4B$46.7B3.4B$48.4B
3.4B$47.11B$46.11B$45.7B2A2B$44.9B2A6B$43.9BA9B$42.20B$41.4B2.15B$40.
4B3.14B$39.4B3.15B$38.4B3.4B.6B2.4B$37.4B3.4B2.4B5.4B$36.4B3.4B13.4B$
35.4B3.4B15.4B$34.4B3.2A2B17.4B$33.4B3.ABAB19.4B$32.4B3.3BA21.4B$31.
4B3.4B23.4B$30.4B3.4B25.4B$29.4B3.4B27.4B$28.4B3.4B29.4B$27.4B3.4B31.
4B$26.4B3.4B33.4B$25.4B3.4B35.4B$24.4B3.4B37.4B$23.4B3.A3B39.4B$22.4B
3.B2AB41.4B$21.4B3.BABA43.4B$20.4B3.4B45.4B$9.2A7.5B3.4B47.4B$8.B2AB
6.4B3.4B49.4B$2.BA5.3B6.4B2.4B51.4B$2BABA.2B2.B2.2B2.A9B53.4B$B2A17BA
5B55.4B$.A4BA7B2A5BA3B12.2A43.4B$.B2A2B2A5B3ABA3BA3B11.B2AB43.4B$2.2B
2A2B2AB2AB4A3BA3B11.3B5.2B38.4B$2.5BA5BA3BA2BA4B4.2B2.2B2.B2.2B.5B37.
4B$.AB2.13B.A2.3BA20BAB38.4B$A.A7.5B8.2BA20BA40.4B$2A8.2B.2B8.BAB2A
13B2A4B41.4B$8.6B10.BA2B2A7B2A2B2A3B43.4B$6.2A6B2A9.A3BA6B2A2B3A3B44.
4B$4.A4BA2BA4BA10.B.5B3A5B2.BA44.4B$3.BA4BA2BA4BAB14.5B7.A.A44.4B$4.A
4BA2BA4BA15.2B.2B8.2A45.4B$6.2A6B2A18.6B54.4B$8.6B18.10B53.4B$10.2B
18.3BABA2BABA3B52.4B$29.2ABA2BA2BA2BAB2A52.4B$30.3BABA2BABA3B54.4B$
32.10B57.3BA$34.6B60.3BA$36.2B63.3A!
A prime multiplier! Here is a period-2385 (45×53) gun:

Code: Select all

x = 121, y = 121, rule = LifeHistory
83.2B$81.6B$79.10B$77.3BABA2BABA3B$76.2ABA2BA2BA2BAB2A$77.3BABA2BABA
3B18.2B$79.10B18.6B$81.6B18.2A6B2A$73.2A8.2B.2B15.A4BA2BA4BA$73.A.A7.
5B14.BA4BA2BA4BAB$74.AB2.13B.B10.A4BA2BA4BA$75.3BA9BA7B9.2A6B2A$75.B
2ABABA3BABAB2A6B10.6B$74.2BA4BA3BA4BA7B8.2B.2B8.2A$74.2BA3BA5BA3BA7B
8.5B7.A.A$73.4B3A7B3A9B2.B.13B2.BA$73.5B.AB2.B2.BA2.2B4.11B2A3B2A5B$
68.B6.2B5.3B11.10BABA3BABA4B$67.3B11.B2AB11.10BA7BA5B$67.3B12.2A12.
10B3A3B3A5B$66.2BA2B24.26B$54.2B10.B3AB23.10B2.2B2.B2.2B.5B$52.6B7.B
2AB2AB21.4B2.4B6.3B5.2B$50.10B5.3AB3A20.4B3.4B6.2BAB$48.3B8A3B2.B3AB
3AB18.4B3.5B7.2A$47.4BAB4ABA4B.B3AB3AB17.4B3.4B$48.3B8A3B3.3AB3A17.4B
3.4B$50.10B5.B2AB2AB16.4B3.4B$52.6B8.B3AB16.4B3.4B$44.2A8.2B.2B7.2BA
2B15.4B3.4B$44.A.A7.BA3B8.3B15.4B3.4B$45.AB2.BA5BA5B.B.5B4.2A8.4B3.4B
$46.3B2A2BA2BA5BABA4B4.A2.A6.4B3.4B$46.2BA5B2A6BA2BA4B.BA.A.A5.BA2B3.
4B$45.4BA4BA7B2AB3AB.B3A.A5.2A2B3.4B$45.20B2AB3.B.A6.2B2A3.4B$44.24B
4.2AB4.4B3.4B$44.5B.2B2.B2.2B2.2B2.4B3.2A4.4B3.4B$46.2B5.3B10.4B7.4B
3.4B$52.B2AB11.4B5.4B3.4B$53.2A11.13B3.4B$67.11B3.4B$69.8B3.4B$70.6B
3.4B$71.4BA2.4B$70.3BABA5B$69.4B.2A4B$68.4B3.2B2A$67.4B2.4B2AB$66.4B
3.8B$65.4B3.5B.4B$64.4B3.2A2B4.4B$63.4B3.ABAB6.4B$62.4B3.3BA8.4B$61.
4B3.4B10.4B$60.4B3.4B12.4B$59.4B3.4B14.4B$58.4B3.4B16.4B$57.4B3.4B18.
4B$56.4B3.4B20.4B$55.4B3.4B22.4B$54.4B3.4B24.4B$53.4B3.A3B26.4B$52.4B
3.B2AB28.4B$51.4B3.BABA30.4B$50.4B3.4B32.4B$49.4B3.4B34.4B$48.4B3.4B
36.4B$47.4B3.4B38.4B$46.4B3.4B40.4B$45.4B3.4B42.4B$44.4B3.4B44.4B$43.
4B3.4B46.4B$42.4B3.4B48.4B$41.4B3.3AB50.4B$40.4B3.3BA52.4B$39.4B3.3BA
54.4B$38.4B3.4B56.4B$37.4B3.4B58.4B$36.4B3.4B60.4B$35.4B3.4B62.4B$34.
4B3.4B64.4B$33.4B3.4B66.4B$32.4B3.4B68.4B$31.4B3.4B70.4B$30.4B3.2A2B
72.4B$29.4B3.2B2A74.4B$28.4B3.2BAB76.4B$27.4B3.4B78.4B$26.4B3.4B80.3B
A$25.4B3.4B82.ABA$24.4B3.4B84.2A$23.4B3.4B$22.4B3.4B$21.4B3.4B$20.4B
3.4B$9.2A7.5B3.2A2B$8.BA2B6.4B3.ABAB$2.2B5.3B6.4B2.3BA$5B.2B2.B2.2B2.
10B$26B$.5B3A3B3A10B12.2A$.5BA7BA10B11.B2AB$2.4BABA3BABA10B11.3B5.2B$
2.5B2A3B2A11B4.2B2.AB2.B2.BA.5B$.AB2.13B.B2.9B3A7B3A4B$A.A7.5B8.7BA3B
A5BA3BA2B$2A8.2B.2B8.7BA4BA3BA4BA2B$8.6B10.6B2ABABA3BABAB2AB$6.2A6B2A
9.7BA9BA3B$4.A4BA2BA4BA10.B.13B2.BA$3.BA4BA2BA4BAB14.5B7.A.A$4.A4BA2B
A4BA15.2B.2B8.2A$6.2A6B2A18.6B$8.6B18.10B$10.2B18.3BABA2BABA3B$29.2AB
A2BA2BA2BAB2A$30.3BABA2BABA3B$32.10B$34.6B$36.2B!

User avatar
dvgrn
Moderator
Posts: 10669
Joined: May 17th, 2009, 11:00 pm
Location: Madison, WI
Contact:

Re: Execution of Old Guns by Variable-Speed Firing Squad

Post by dvgrn » August 22nd, 2022, 10:08 am

GUYTU6J wrote:
August 22nd, 2022, 8:44 am
How exactly are intermitting glider guns constructed for a desired period without making it a plain signal loop?
Heh, I think you're probably already executing the traditional method:

1) For a given target period N*X, find a period-N mechanism that allows for an adjustable-length signal circuit, where the output of the circuit interferes with the input of the circuit in a way that creates pseudo-random feedback;
2) Adjust the length and see what period multipliers come out;
3) Hope that one of those multipliers happens to be X.

There's no doubt some clever mathematical analysis that could be applied to the problem, but then you have to build a CGoL model that matches whatever math you come up with... and that's likely to turn out to be big-and-awkward instead of the relatively compact-and-elegant lucky matches that you come up with with the "traditional method".

GUYTU6J
Posts: 2200
Joined: August 5th, 2016, 10:27 am
Location: 拆哪!I repeat, CHINA! (a.k.a. 种花家)
Contact:

Re: Execution of Old Guns by Variable-Speed Firing Squad

Post by GUYTU6J » August 22nd, 2022, 12:03 pm

dvgrn wrote:
August 22nd, 2022, 10:08 am
GUYTU6J wrote:
August 22nd, 2022, 8:44 am
How exactly are intermitting glider guns constructed for a desired period without making it a plain signal loop?
Heh, I think you're probably already executing the traditional method:

1) For a given target period N*X, find a period-N mechanism that allows for an adjustable-length signal circuit, where the output of the circuit interferes with the input of the circuit in a way that creates pseudo-random feedback;
2) Adjust the length and see what period multipliers come out;
3) Hope that one of those multipliers happens to be X.
...
Oh, well. So the previous discoveries of IMGs are more of sheer luck.
Here is another smaller period-2385 glider gun; I find it weird that a tremi-Snark is required.

Code: Select all

x = 110, y = 105, rule = LifeHistory
84.B$83.3B$83.3A$82.2BA2B$82.2BA2B$81.2B3A2B$81.7B$80.3B3A3B$80.3B3A
3B$81.7B$81.2B3A2B$82.2BA2B$82.2BA2B$83.3A8.2B$83.3B6.6B$84.4B2.2A6B
2A$83.5BA4BA2BA4BA$83.5BA4BA2BA4BAB$82.5B.A4BA2BA4BA$82.5B3.2A6B2A$
81.7B4.6B$80.4B.4B5.2B5.2B$79.4B3.4B9.6B$78.4B5.5B5.2A6B2A$77.4B7.6B.
BA2BA4BA2BAB$76.4B9.3BA3BA2BA4BA2BA2B$75.4B9.3B2A3BA2BA4BA2BAB$74.4B
9.4BABAB2.2A6B2A$73.A3B9.4B2.3B4.6B$72.A3B9.4B2.3B7.2B$71.B3A9.4B3.3B
$70.4B9.4B3.B3AB$69.4B9.4B4.A3BA13.2A$68.4B9.4B4.A5BA11.ABA$25.2A5.2B
33.4B9.4B5.7B10.3BA$25.A.A2.4B32.4B9.4B5.A7BA8.4B$26.A8B30.4B9.4B6.A
7BA7.4B$21.B6.7B29.4B9.4B8.7B7.4B$20.3B5.6B29.4B9.4B9.A5BA6.4B$20.BAB
4.6B29.4B9.4B11.A3BA6.4B$19.B3AB3.2A5B27.4B9.4B12.B3AB5.4B$19.5A3.2A
5B26.4B9.4B14.3B5.4B$18.7B2.B2A3B2.B23.4B9.4B15.3B4.4B$18.7B2.B2A3B.B
2A21.4B9.4B17.B4.4B$17.9BABABA4B2A20.4B9.2A2B22.4B$17.10BA2BA2B.2B20.
4B9.ABAB22.4B$18.7B.2ABA3B22.4B9.3BA22.4B$18.9B3A4B20.4B9.4B22.4B$19.
5A.9B19.4B9.4B22.4B$19.B3AB3.6B19.4B9.4B22.4B$20.BAB4.6B18.4B9.4B22.
4B$20.3B4.7B16.A3B9.4B22.4B$21.B6.2BA3B15.BABA9.4B22.4B$27.3BA2B15.2B
2A9.4B22.4B$20.2B6.3B2A14.4B9.4B22.4B$18.6B3.3B2A2B12.4B9.A3B22.4B$
16.2A6B2A.8B10.4B9.B2AB22.4B$14.BA2BA4BA2BA9B8.4B9.BABA22.4B$13.B6A2B
6A3B2.4B6.4B9.4B22.4B$14.BA2BA4BA2BAB.B4.4B3.5B9.4B22.4B$16.2A6B2A4.B
4.10B9.4B22.4B$18.6B5.3A4.8B9.4B22.4B$20.2B7.2B.BA3.3BA3B8.4B22.4B$
28.A.3BA3.B2A3B8.4B22.4B$27.A.A2.A4.2B2A2B7.4B22.4B$27.A2.A5.8B5.4B
22.4B$28.2A5.4B2.4B3.4B22.4B$34.4B4.4B.3AB22.4B$33.4B6.6BA22.4B$32.4B
8.4BA22.4B$31.4B9.5B21.4B$30.4B9.7B19.4B$29.4B9.4B.4B10.A6.4B$10.2B
16.4B9.4B3.4B7.3A5.4B$8.6B13.4B9.4B5.4B5.A7.4B$6.2A6B2A10.4B9.4B7.4B
4.2A5.4B$4.BA2BA4BA2BAB7.4B9.4B9.9B4.4B$3.B6A2B6AB5.4B9.4B11.6B5.4B$
4.BA2BA4BA2BAB5.4B9.2A2B12.8B2.4B$6.2A6B2A6.4B9.2B2A11.15B$8.6B7.4B9.
2BAB12.14B$2A8.2B.2B5.4B9.4B13.13B$A.A7.2B2AB3.5B9.4B12.2AB.10B$.AB2.
7B3A7B9.4B12.A.AB3.4BA2B$2.10BABA8B7.4B13.A5.4BABA2B$2.7BA2B2A10B5.4B
3.2A8.2A6.3BABA2B$.9B4A11B3.4B3.B2AB15.4BAB$.9B2A12B3.4B4.3B5.2B10.5B
$23BA2.4B2.2B2.B2.2B.5B9.3B$5B.2B2.B2.2B2.2B2.A3B2A20B8.5B$2.2B5.3B9.
5BA19B8.B2AB2A$8.B2AB9.2ABABA9BA9B5.2A2.2A.AB2.2A$9.2A12.11B2ABA7B6.A
2.B3.A.A2.A$24.9B2ABAB2A5B7.7A.2A$27.B.5B2A4B2A2.BA13.A$32.5B7.A.A7.
4A.A$32.2B.2A8.2A7.A2.2A$33.A4BA$31.BA6BAB$29.2BA8BA2B$28.3BA8BA3B$
29.2BA8BA2B$31.BA6BAB$33.A4BA$35.2A!
However, it turns out to be a rediscovery; there is already a case with period 2438 = 46 × 53. So it is something specific about 53.

Code: Select all

#C [[ GRID MAXGRIDSIZE 14 THEME Catagolue ]]
#CSYNTH gun_2438 costs 12769 cells.
#C period 2438 fullperiod 2438 bbox 113 by 113
#CLL state-numbering golly
x = 113, y = 113, rule = LifeHistory
65.4B3.B.9B.B$65.4B.17B.B$64.2A12B4A5B3A$64.2A12BAB2A6B2A2.B.9B.B
3.4B$65.B.11BA8BA19B.4B$67.12B2A13BA2B2A12B2A$88.7B2ABA12B2A$67.
12B2A16BA12B.B$65.B.11BA7BA8B3A12B$64.2A12BAB2A4B4A$64.2A12B4A4B2A
7B3A12B$65.4B.27BA12B.B$37.2A5.2A19.4B3.B.12B2.A6B2ABA12B2A$35.2B
2AB3.B2A2B33.4B3.6BA2B2A12B2A$35.4B5.4B32.4B4.2A17B.4B$35.6B.6B31.
4B6.4B.9B.B3.4B$35.6B.6B30.4B7.2B$37.4B.4B31.4B7.4B$36.5B.5B29.4B
7.4B$36.5B.5B28.BA2B7.4B$35.6B.6B26.2A2B7.4B$36.5B.5B26.2B2A7.4B$
35.6B.6B24.4B7.4B$35.6B.6B23.4B7.4B$35.6B.6B22.4B7.4B$35.3BA2B.2BA
3B21.4B7.4B$35.2B3AB.B3A2B20.4B7.4B$35.BA3BA.A3BAB19.4B7.4B$35.BA
4B.4BAB18.4B7.4B$35.2B3AB.B3A2B17.4B7.4B$35.6B.6B16.4B7.4B$36.5B.
5B16.ABAB7.4B$35.6B.6B14.B2AB7.4B$36.5B.5B14.3BA7.4B36.B$36.5B.2A
3B13.4B7.4B36.2A$34.8BA4B12.4B7.4B36.ABA$33.AB.3B2.B2AB2AB10.4B7.
4B36.3BA$33.2A.B2AB2.BABA3B8.4B7.4B36.4B$37.2A4.BA.4B6.4B7.A3B36.
4B$43.A2B.4B3.5B7.B2AB36.4B$42.BAB3.10B7.BABA36.4B$41.2BA2B3.8B7.
4B36.4B$39.9B2.3B2A2B6.4B36.4B$39.6B3A2.2BABAB6.4B36.4B$38.9B3.2BA
3B5.4B36.4B$37.2AB.2BA2B3.2B2A4B3.4B36.4B$36.A.AB2.BAB3.4B2.4B.4B
36.4B$36.A6.A3.4B4.7B36.4B$35.2A9.4B6.5B36.4B$45.4B7.5B35.4B$44.4B
7.7B33.4B$43.4B7.4B.4B31.4B$42.4B7.4B3.4B29.4B$41.4B7.4B5.4B27.4B$
40.4B7.4B7.4B25.4B$39.4B7.4B9.4B23.4B$38.4B7.4B11.4B21.4B$37.4B7.
4B13.4B19.4B$36.4B7.4B15.4B10.A6.4B$35.4B7.4B17.4B7.3A5.4B$34.4B7.
4B19.4B5.A7.4B$33.4B7.A3B21.4B4.2A5.4B$32.4B7.B2AB23.9B4.4B$31.4B
7.BABA25.6B5.4B$30.4B7.4B26.8B2.4B$29.4B7.4B25.15B$28.4B7.4B26.14B
$27.4B7.4B27.13B$26.4B7.4B26.2AB.10B$25.4B7.4B26.A.AB3.4BA2B$24.4B
7.4B27.A5.4BABA2B$23.4B7.4B27.2A6.3BABA2B$22.4B7.4B36.4BAB$21.4B7.
4B38.5B$20.4B7.4B40.3B$19.4B7.4B40.5B$18.4B7.4B40.B2AB2A$17.4B7.4B
38.2A2.2A.AB2.2A$16.4B7.4B39.A2.B3.A.A2.A$15.4B7.4B41.7A.2A$14.4B
7.4B49.A$9.B3.4B7.4B45.4A.A$8.3B.4B7.4B46.A2.2A$8.3B.3B7.4B$2.2A2.
10B5.4B$A2BAB.11B3.4B$4B2.2B3A2B.4B.4B$5BA.A3BA3.7B$2A3BABA3BAB3.
5B$2.4B.2B2AB5.5B.B.3B.9B.B3.4B$.3BA3BA4B6.23B.4B$.12B4.12B3A14B2A
$13B3.13BA3BA12B2A$.5B.5B5.12BA4BA10B.B$2B2A2B.2B2A2B6.11BA3BA10B$
6B.6B6.3B.B.3B$BA4B.4BAB9.8BA3BA10B$BA3BA.A3BAB7.B.7BA4BA10B.B$BA
3BA.A3BAB6.2A8BA3BA12B2A$2BABAB.BABA2B6.2A8B3A14B2A$3BA2B.2BA3B7.
4B.17B.4B$6B.6B7.4B3.B.9B.B3.4B$6B.6B$.5B.5B$6B.6B$.5B.5B$.5B.5B$
2.4B.4B$6B.6B$6B.6B$4B5.4B$2B2AB3.B2A2B$2.2A5.2A!

User avatar
rattlesnake
Posts: 146
Joined: May 28th, 2022, 10:10 pm
Location: Following a 37P4H1V0

Re: Execution of Old Guns by Variable-Speed Firing Squad

Post by rattlesnake » August 22nd, 2022, 11:11 pm

Small Period-61 glider gun

Code: Select all

x = 131, y = 101, rule = LifeHistory
24.2A4.2A$23.A2.A3.2A$24.2A3$24.A51.2A$23.3A50.A$2.2A19.A.A51.A$2.A19.
2A2.A37.A11.2A$A.A5.A13.2A5.2A33.3A11.2A$2A5.A.A.A10.2A6.A36.A8.2A2.A
$5.3A.2A.A16.A36.2A9.A.A$4.A7.A12.A30.2A3.2A7.A4.A.A.2A$4.2A6.2A9.A.A
30.A5.A6.A.A3.2A$22.A2.A28.A.A5.A.A4.A2.A$23.2A15.2A11.A.A7.2A5.2A$40.
A8.2A.2A$38.A.A8.2A$18.A19.2A$17.A.A46.A$17.2A16.A22.2A6.A$34.A22.A.A
7.A6.3A$34.2A21.A16.A$34.3A4.A15.3A15.A$34.A5.2A$34.A$69.A$21.A13.A32.
A.A$21.3A12.A2.A3.2A17.2A4.A.A4.2A$24.A12.3A22.A2.A3.A3.A2.A$23.2A38.
3A7.3A$49.2A$40.2A7.A11.7A3.7A$15.2A23.A9.3A8.A6.A.A6.A$15.A25.3A8.A9.
A.A.2A3.2A.A.A$12.2A.A27.A19.2A.A5.A.2A$12.A2.3A7.A.A40.A.A19.2A$13.2A
3.A6.A2.A38.2A.2A17.2A$15.4A6.A2.A62.A$15.A11.A3.2A$16.3A12.A.A$19.A13.
A$14.5A14.2A$14.A$16.A$15.2A6$105.2A$37.A67.A.A$35.A.A67.A$36.2A6$126.
2A$126.A$128.A$108.2A14.5A$109.A13.A$109.A.A12.3A$110.2A3.A11.A$51.A62.
A2.A6.4A$52.2A17.2A.2A38.A2.A6.A3.2A$51.2A19.A.A40.A.A7.3A2.A$67.2A.A
5.A.2A19.A27.A.2A$66.A.A.2A3.2A.A.A9.A8.3A25.A$65.A6.A.A6.A8.3A9.A23.
2A$65.7A3.7A11.A7.2A$92.2A$67.3A7.3A38.2A$66.A2.A3.A3.A2.A22.3A12.A$66.
2A4.A.A4.2A17.2A3.A2.A12.3A$72.A.A32.A13.A$73.A$108.A$101.2A5.A$67.A15.
3A15.A4.3A$68.A16.A21.2A$66.3A6.A7.A.A22.A$76.A6.2A22.A$76.A$103.2A15.
2A$92.2A8.A.A15.A$89.2A.2A8.A18.3A$71.2A5.2A7.A.A11.2A20.A$70.A2.A4.A
.A5.A.A$66.2A3.A.A6.A5.A$62.2A.A.A4.A7.2A3.2A$63.A.A9.2A$62.A2.2A8.A$
63.2A11.3A$65.2A11.A$65.A$66.A$65.2A!
Please tell me if it is possible to improve on this.
This glider gun uses a glider duplicator that is based on the Speed tunnel.
Edit: Not optimal
iNoMed wrote:
August 23rd, 2022, 12:57 am
Sokwe and confocaloid found this p61 gun design on July 25, which he also posted to Execution of old guns:

Code: Select all

x = 101, y = 88, rule = B3/S23
28b2o$27bobo$21b2o4bo$19bo2bo2b2ob4o$19b2obobobobo2bo$22bobobobo32b2o$
22bobob2o32bobo$23bo30b2o4bo$52bo2bo2b2ob4o$36b2o14b2obobobobo2bo$27b
2o7bo18bobobobo$9bo17b2o5bobo18bobob2o$9b3o22b2o20bo$12bo$11b2o56b2o$
60b2o7bo$60b2o5bobo$3b2o55b2o5b2o$3bo12bobo11b3o26b2o$2obo12b2o6b2o4bo
28bobo$o2b3o4b2o5bo7bo5bo9bo17bo$b2o3bo3b2o10b3o16b3o$3b4o15bo21bo53bo
$3bo15b2obo20b2o52bobo$4b3o12bobob2o32b2o38bobo$7bo13bo2bo33bo20b2o15b
2ob2o$2b5o14b2o32b3o21b2o19bo$2bo43bo8bo40b4o$4bo39b2o50bo$3b2o40bo52b
2o$53b2o44bo$45bo2bo4bobo42bo$21bo24b2o7bo20bo21b2o$19bobo33b2o17b2o4b
o$20b2o52b3o3bo2bo$42bo31b2o4bo3bo$41bobob2o37bo$41bobobobo35bo4b2o$
38b2obobobobo2bo23b2o12bobo$38bo2bo2b2ob4o24bo14bo$40b2o4bo25b3o13bobo
$46bobo23bo6b2o6bo$47b2o30b2o6bobo4b2o$87bo6bo$86bo8b3o$47bobo28bo18bo
$47b2obo26bobo$35bo14bo27bo$26b2o8b2o9b3ob2obo20b3o$25bobo2b2o3b2o9bo
2bobob2o20bo$24bo2bobobo14b2o$24b3o2b2o$27bobo$24b2obo17bo$22bo2b3o16b
obo$22b2o7b2o11bo2bo$30bo2bo11b2o$22b2o7b2o$22bo2b3o11b3o6b2o$24b2obo
6b2o12bobo$27bobo20bo34b2o$24b3o2b2o6b2o5b2o4b2o32bo2bo$24bo2bobobo6b
2o4bo42bo5bob2o$25bobo2b2o3b2o2bo5b3o36b3o6b2obo$26b2o8b3o8bo4b2o$37bo
15bo$53bobo$29bo24bobo11b2o$28bobo24bo3b2o8bo$28bobo28b2o8bobo$27b2ob
2o38b2o19bo$27bo16bo4bo40bobo$28b4o6b3o2b2o4bo2b2o37b2o$32bo9bo5bo5bo
20b3o$30bobo10b2o4bobo2b2o18bob2o$30b2o9bo7bo3b2o13b2o4bo3bo$40bo3b2o
5b3o14b2o5b3o$27b2o12b2ob2o29b3o$26bobo$26bo45b2o$25b2o43b2obo$70bo2bo
$38b2o32b2o$38bo20b2o$39b3o18bo7b2o$41bo15b3o9bo$57bo8b3o$66bo!
Last edited by rattlesnake on November 20th, 2022, 9:28 pm, edited 1 time in total.
I have discovered SKOP for 115, 188, 492 and gun_ and guntrue_ for 200, 226, 339, 752, 1944, 6624.

Sokwe
Moderator
Posts: 2677
Joined: July 9th, 2009, 2:44 pm

Re: Execution of Old Guns by Variable-Speed Firing Squad

Post by Sokwe » August 23rd, 2022, 1:43 am

rattlesnake wrote:
August 22nd, 2022, 11:11 pm
Small Period-61 glider gun...

Please tell me if it is possible to improve on this.
This glider gun uses a glider duplicator that is based on the Speed tunnel.
The smallest known true period 61 gun can always be found in Catagolue. This gun design was found by confocaloid.
-Matthias Merzenich

Post Reply