H-to-G and H-to-Gn converter collection

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Re: H-to-G and H-to-Gn converter collection

Post by MathAndCode » January 23rd, 2021, 11:12 pm

dvgrn wrote:
January 23rd, 2021, 10:56 pm
See HSE19T42 in the Elementary Conduits collection (though it isn't elementary, of course, so it's colored yellow):
I looked through the Elementary Conduits collection, but I didn't notice it because I was specifically looking for the second type. Also, thank you for telling me what the yellow color means.
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Re: H-to-G and H-to-Gn converter collection

Post by EvinZL » February 3rd, 2021, 3:45 pm

While looking through "Results of catalyst tests", I found a catalyst which can make an alternate form of NW26T157:

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x = 30, y = 36, rule = LifeHistory
5.4B9.2A$6.4B8.A$7.4B8.A$8.4B4.4A2.A$9.4B2.BA3.3A$10.4B2.3BA$11.7B.2A
$12.9B$13.6B$13.6B$12.9B$11.11B$.2A8.11B$2.A9.10B$2.A.AB4.14B$3.2AB.
17B$5.20B$5.20B$6.20B$5.21B$3.23B$.19B.B.B.B2A$.2BC15B6.BA.A$3BCBC4B.
9B8.A$.2B3C4B2.7B9.2A$5BC4B2.7B$9B4.6B$2B10.7B$B12.6B$13.7B$13.6B$13.
5B$12.6B$12.4B$12.2B2AB$14.2A!

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Re: H-to-G and H-to-Gn converter collection

Post by MathAndCode » February 3rd, 2021, 5:29 pm

EvinZL wrote:
February 3rd, 2021, 3:45 pm
While looking through "Results of catalyst tests", I found a catalyst which can make an alternate form of NW26T157:
Nice! I highly suspected that a smaller version would be possible. Of course, it's also compatible with the SE7T14 output.

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x = 30, y = 37, rule = LifeHistory
5.4B9.2A$6.4B8.A$7.4B8.A$8.4B4.4A2.A$9.4B2.BA3.3A$10.4B2.3BA$11.7B.2A
$12.9B$13.6B$13.6B$12.9B$11.11B$.2A8.11B$2.A9.10B$2.A.AB4.14B$3.2AB.17B
$5.20B$5.20B$6.20B$5.21B$3.23B$.19B.B.B.B2A$.2BC15B6.BA.A$3BCBC4B.9B8.
A$.2B3C4B2.7B9.2A$5BC4B2.7B$9B4.6B$2B10.7B$B12.6B$13.7B$13.6B$13.5B$12.
6B$12.2A.B$12.BA2.B$10.3A$10.A!
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Re: H-to-G and H-to-Gn converter collection

Post by dvgrn » February 4th, 2021, 8:39 am

MathAndCode wrote:
February 3rd, 2021, 5:29 pm
Nice! I highly suspected that a smaller version would be possible. Of course, it's also compatible with the SE7T14 output.
Seems good to keep the old version and add this as "NW26T157b", since NW26T157a is Spartan.

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Re: H-to-G and H-to-Gn converter collection

Post by EvinZL » February 4th, 2021, 11:26 am

Kazyan wrote:
December 10th, 2020, 12:31 am
Known lane, different timing. I think.

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x = 45, y = 37, rule = LifeHistory
20.2A$19.B2AB$20.3B$19.B.B$19.5B$18.6B$18.7B$18.7B$19.5B$18.6B$17.8B$
6.2A10.7B$7.A10.7B3.2A$7.A.AB7.6B4.A$8.2AB.3B3.6B.BA.A$10.14B.B2A$10.
16B18.B$11.14B18.2B$10.16B16.3B$8.18B15.4B$6.19B15.4B$6.2BC15B15.4B$
5.3BCBC15B2.3B7.4B$6.2B3C4B.10B2.4B5.4B$5.5BC4B2.16B3.4B$4.10B4.21B$
4.3B11.20B$2.4B12.19B$2.2A14.18B$3.A14.17B$3A16.B2A14B$A18.B2A6B3.3B.
B2A$22.8B5.BA.A$28.2A8.A$28.A9.2A$29.3A$31.A!
The suppressing block at the top can probably be replaced with some other fancy nozzle to get another glider.
Fancy nozzle stolen from chris_c's F131 variant:

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x = 40, y = 39, rule = LifeHistory
33.4B$32.4B$16.2A13.4B$17.A12.4B$16.A12.4B$16.2A2.2A6.4B$19.A.A5.4B$
14.4A.A6.4B$14.A2.A.2A4.4B$17.5B2.4B$18.9B$18.8B$17.8B$6.2A9.7B$7.A
10.7B3.2A$7.A.AB7.6B4.A$8.2AB.3B3.6B.BA.A$10.14B.B2A$10.16B$11.14B$
10.16B$8.18B$6.19B$6.2BC15B15.B$5.3BCBC15B2.3B7.2B$6.2B3C4B.10B2.4B5.
3B$5.5BC4B2.16B3.4B$4.10B4.21B$4.3B11.20B$2.4B12.19B$2.2A14.18B$3.A
14.17B$3A16.B2A14B$A18.B2A6B3.3B.B2A$22.8B5.BA.A$28.2A8.A$28.A9.2A$
29.3A$31.A!
EDIT by dvgrn: This adds the known NE1T22 to the new NE30T17 -- not to mention the SE-2 FNG, so this is another H-to-3G with the outputs spaced far enough apart that they can be easily separated with Snarks or syringes.

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Re: H-to-G and H-to-Gn converter collection

Post by MathAndCode » February 4th, 2021, 11:42 am

dvgrn wrote:
February 4th, 2021, 8:39 am
Seems good to keep the old version and add this as "NW26T157b", since NW26T157a is Spartan.
Yes, I figured that I would do that.
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Re: H-to-G and H-to-Gn converter collection

Post by Jormungant » February 8th, 2021, 6:50 pm

I modified the following this old h-to-g:

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x = 57, y = 72, rule = LifeHistory
3$15.2E.E$15.E.2E2$16.5E$11.2E2.E4.E$11.E2.E.BEB$12.E.E.2EB$11.2E.E.
4BE$14.E3.BEBE$14.2E2.E2BE$19.2E3B$21.7B$21.9B$21.10B$21.11B$17.14B$
17.14B$16.16B$16.17B$16.11B2E4B$17.10B2E9B$17.24B$17.25B$18.24B$19.
24B$18.26B$19.26B$17.29B$17.2E.21B2E4B$18.E3.18BE2BE3B$15.3E5.9B.8B2E
4B$15.E7.8B3.4B2.6B$25.5B5.4B2.B$25.6B5.6B$25.7B4.7B$26.2B.4B3.8B$24.
4B2.4B.10B$24.2E5.13B$25.E6.12B$22.3E8.10B$22.E10.9B$23.2E8.9B$24.E9.
8B$24.E.EB4.10B$25.2EB.14B$27.17B$27.17B$28.17B$27.17B.B$25.21BE$23.
19B2.BE.E$23.2BD16B3.BE$22.3BDBD4B.10B$23.2B3D4B2.10B$22.5BD4B2.11B$
21.10B4.6B.4B$20.4B10.7B2.4B$19.4B12.6B3.4B$18.4B13.7B3.4B$18.2EB14.
6B5.4B$16.3BE15.5B7.4B$16.3E15.6B8.3B$16.E17.4B11.2B$34.2B2EB$36.2E!

And got this ^^

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x = 77, y = 82, rule = LifeHistory
$36.A$35.A.A$26.2A7.A.A$25.B2AB5.2A.3A$19.2A5.3B6.B4.A$18.B2AB2.B2.B
5.B2AB3A$18.14B.B2A.A$19.17B$18.17B$17.18B$16.8BA11B$13.CB.7BABA10B$
9.2C.C.C8BA2BA8B$10.C.CA.9B2A8B$7.B2.C4.B.18B12.B$7.2C.C3.B4.16B12.B$
7.2CBC.CB5.17B11.B$9.2B2CB2.19B2A10.B$8.4B.22B2A$9.27B$10.25B$14.20B$
13.22B$14.22B$14.21B$13.9B.12B$12.9B2.11B$11.4B4.B4.9B$10.4B10.9B$9.
4B12.8B$8.4B6.B4.10B$7.4B7.16B$6.4B8.17B$5.4B7.19B$4.4B7.21B$3.4B8.
20B.B$2.4B8.23BE$2.3B9.19B2.BC.E2.3B$2.2B10.2BC17B2.BE2.5B$2.B10.3BCB
C16B5.6B$14.2B3C17B4.2BC4B$13.5BC17B4.BCBC4B$12.10B2.13B2.2BCBC6B$11.
4B10.13B2.2BC8B$10.4B12.13B2.10B$9.4B13.14B.10B$9.ECB14.26B$7.3BE15.
26B$7.3E15.27B$7.E17.4B2.8B.12B$25.2B2CB.8B2.11B$27.2E2.7B4.12B$31.7B
3.14B2.B$31.8B.19B$32.3B.24B$37.14B2C7B$35.16B2C8B$35.26B$33.ECB.24B$
32.E.EB4.21B$32.E7.22B$31.2E9.20B$43.19B2C$43.14B4.C2BC2.2E$44.13B4.C
BCB3.E$42.ECB.B.9B5.C4B.E.2E$41.E.EB4.8B7.BCE.E.E$41.E10.3B9.BEB.E2.E
$40.2E20.E4.E2.2E$62.5E2$64.2E.E$64.E.2E!
not sure if one can limit that glider generating spark and still also the eater than manages the first hershell natural block...

addendum: too late, it is fixed:

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x = 46, y = 60, rule = LifeHistory
4$35.A$34.A.A$25.2A7.A.A$24.B2AB5.2A.3A$18.2A5.3B6.B4.A$17.B2AB2.B2.B
5.B2AB3A$17.14B.B2A.A$18.17B$17.17B$16.18B$15.8BA11B$12.CB.7BABA10B$
11.C.C8BA2BA8B$11.CA.9B2A8B$14.B.18B$18.16B$18.17B$15.19B2A$14.20B2A$
14.21B$15.19B$10.B2.24B$13.21B$13.22B$11.2C23B$10.C.C12B.9B$10.C6.18B
$9.2C9.2B.B.9B$24.9B$14.2C8.9B$9.4B2.C9.8B$8.4B3.C.CB4.10B$7.4B5.2C
16B$6.4B8.17B$5.4B7.19B$4.4B7.21B$3.4B8.20B.B$2.4B8.23BE$2.3B9.19B2.B
C.E$2.2B10.2BC17B2.BE$2.B10.3BCBC16B$16.3C17B$13.B4.C17B$12.10B2.13B$
11.4B10.13B$10.4B12.13B$9.4B13.14B$9.ECB14.10B.4B$7.3BE15.10B2.4B$7.
3E15.11B3.4B$7.E17.4B2.5B4.4B$25.2B2CB.5B5.4B$27.2E2.5B6.4B$31.5B7.3B
$31.5B8.2B$32.3B10.B!
EDIT by dvgrn: these chimerical frumious Bandersnatchian hybrids are SW-18T136 and a slightly smaller and slmake-Spartan version of the old composite SE16T36.

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Re: H-to-G and H-to-Gn converter collection

Post by Sphenocorona » February 11th, 2021, 1:23 am

New(?) dependent NW10T137 featuring the infamous mega-eater:

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x = 36, y = 29, rule = LifeHistory
4.4B$5.4B$6.4B$7.4B.B$8.6B$9.6B8.2B$3.4B2.7B3.7B$.26B$B2ABD23B$3ABCAD
21B.3B$B2AB3CB2A22B$3AB2ADB2A21B2A$2A27B.B2A$5.23B3.B$7.B2.18B$10.17B
$10.16B4.2A$10.6B2.9B3.A$11.5B4.6B5.A$11.4B6.4B5.2A$23.7B2.2A$25.2A.
4A2.A$24.ABABAB.B.2A$24.A.A.A.2A.A$22.3A.ABA.A2.A$21.A3.ABA.A2.A.2A$
21.2A2.A.A.A.2A.A$26.2A.A2.A2.A$30.2A2.2A!
I've optimized the monster eater for conduit bounding box, but alternate forms may have better clearance on the diagonals.

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Re: H-to-G and H-to-Gn converter collection

Post by Sphenocorona » March 21st, 2021, 12:49 am

Here's an elementary H-to-2Gn (known G9 plus new G14), with a new timing on a known lane, NW17T101 (EDIT: improved block cleanup):

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x = 58, y = 114, rule = LifeHistory
11.D3.D.D3.D2.3D4.D3.5D3.D4.3D3.3D$11.2D2.D.D3.D.D3.D2.2D5.D4.2D3.D3.
D.D3.D$11.D.D.D.D3.D5.D3.D5.D5.D7.D.D2.2D$11.D2.2D.D.D.D3.2D4.D5.D5.D
6.D2.D.D.D$11.D3.D.D.D.D5.D3.D5.D5.D5.D3.2D2.D$11.D3.D.2D.2D.D3.D3.D
5.D5.D4.D4.D3.D$11.D3.D.D3.D2.3D3.3D4.D4.3D2.5D2.3D4$11.D3.D.D3.D3.D
3.5D.5D3.D4.3D4.D$11.2D2.D.D3.D2.2D7.D3.D4.2D3.D3.D2.2D$11.D.D.D.D3.D
3.D6.D4.D5.D3.D2.2D3.D$11.D2.2D.D.D.D3.D5.D5.D5.D3.D.D.D3.D$11.D3.D.D
.D.D3.D4.D6.D5.D3.2D2.D3.D$11.D3.D.2D.2D3.D3.D7.D5.D3.D3.D3.D$11.D3.D
.D3.D2.3D2.D7.D4.3D3.3D3.3D4$12.3D2.D3.D.5D.5D2.3D5.D$11.D3.D.D3.D5.D
3.D3.D3.D3.2D$11.D5.D3.D4.D4.D3.D3.D2.D.D$12.3D2.D.D.D3.D5.D4.4D.D2.D
$15.D.D.D.D2.D6.D7.D.5D$11.D3.D.2D.2D.D7.D7.D4.D$12.3D2.D3.D.D7.D4.3D
5.D4$12.3D2.D3.D8.3D2.5D2.3D4.D$11.D3.D.D3.D7.D3.D3.D3.D3.D2.2D$11.D
5.D3.D11.D3.D7.D3.D$12.3D2.D.D.D.5D4.D4.D6.D4.D$15.D.D.D.D9.D5.D5.D5.
D$11.D3.D.2D.2D8.D6.D4.D6.D$12.3D2.D3.D7.5D3.D3.5D2.3D29$2.4B10.4B$3.
4B10.4B$4.4B10.4B$5.4B10.4B$6.4B10.4B$7.4B10.4B$8.4B9.4B$9.4B8.5B2.B$
10.4B6.6B.B2A$11.4B5.8B2A$12.4B4.6B.2B$13.4B2.7B$14.12B$8.2A5.11B$9.A
6.11B$9.A.AB4.11B$10.2AB.3B.10B$12.17B$12.17B$13.16B$12.17B$10.18B$8.
19B$8.2BC15B$7.3BCBC4B.7B$8.2B3C12B2.B$7.5BC12B.B2A$6.13B.7B2A$5.4B5.
4B2.5B.2B$4.4B5.4B.8B$3.4B5.4B2.4B.2B$2.4B5.4B3.3BAB$.4B5.4B5.BABAB$
4B5.4B6.BABAB$3B5.4B7.2BA2B$2B5.4B5.A2.5B2.A$B5.4B5.A.A.2B.2B.A.A$5.
4B5.A.A2.2BA2B2.A.A$4.4B6.A4.BABAB4.A$3.4B8.A3.BABAB3.A$2.4B6.3A.BA3B
A3BAB.3A$.4B6.A3.3AB.3B.B3A3.A$4B7.3A3.3B.B.3B3.3A$3B11.6AB.B6A$2B11.
A2.B2.BA.AB2.B2.A$B13.A.A.2A3.2A.A.A$15.2A.A5.A.2A$20.A.A$19.2A.2A!
EDIT: A related conduit with another new timing on known lane, SE30T22:

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x = 52, y = 104, rule = LifeHistory
12.3D2.5D2.3D3.3D2.5D2.3D3.3D$11.D3.D.D5.D3.D.D3.D3.D3.D3.D.D3.D$11.D
5.D9.D.D2.2D3.D7.D5.D$12.3D2.3D5.2D2.D.D.D3.D6.D5.D$15.D.D9.D.2D2.D3.
D5.D5.D$11.D3.D.D5.D3.D.D3.D3.D4.D5.D$12.3D2.5D2.3D3.3D4.D3.5D.5D4$
12.3D2.D3.D.5D.5D2.3D5.D$11.D3.D.D3.D5.D3.D3.D3.D3.2D$11.D5.D3.D4.D4.
D3.D3.D2.D.D$12.3D2.D.D.D3.D5.D4.4D.D2.D$15.D.D.D.D2.D6.D7.D.5D$11.D
3.D.2D.2D.D7.D7.D4.D$12.3D2.D3.D.D7.D4.3D5.D4$12.3D2.D3.D8.3D2.5D2.3D
4.D$11.D3.D.D3.D7.D3.D3.D3.D3.D2.2D$11.D5.D3.D11.D3.D7.D3.D$12.3D2.D.
D.D.5D4.D4.D6.D4.D$15.D.D.D.D9.D5.D5.D5.D$11.D3.D.2D.2D8.D6.D4.D6.D$
12.3D2.D3.D7.5D3.D3.5D2.3D31$22.2A$22.A.A$23.AB$22.2B$20.5B$17.B.7B$
16.2A10B$16.2AB.10B$17.B2.11B$16.2B.12B$16.15B$8.2A5.16B$9.A6.11B.4B$
9.A.AB4.11B.4B$10.2AB.3B.10B2.4B$12.17B2.4B$12.17B3.4B$13.16B4.4B$12.
17B5.4B$10.18B7.4B$8.19B9.4B$8.2BC15B11.3B$7.3BCBC4B.7B13.2B$8.2B3C
12B2.B11.B$7.5BC12B.B2A$6.13B.7B2A$5.4B5.4B2.5B.2B$4.4B5.4B.8B$3.4B5.
4B2.4B.2B$2.4B5.4B3.3BAB$.4B5.4B5.BABAB$4B5.4B6.BABAB$3B5.4B7.2BA2B$
2B5.4B5.A2.5B2.A$B5.4B5.A.A.2B.2B.A.A$5.4B5.A.A2.2BA2B2.A.A$4.4B6.A4.
BABAB4.A$3.4B8.A3.BABAB3.A$2.4B6.3A.BA3BA3BAB.3A$.4B6.A3.3AB.3B.B3A3.
A$4B7.3A3.3B.B.3B3.3A$3B11.6AB.B6A$2B11.A2.B2.BA.AB2.B2.A$B13.A.A.2A
3.2A.A.A$15.2A.A5.A.2A$20.A.A$19.2A.2A!

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Re: H-to-G and H-to-Gn converter collection

Post by wwei47 » March 21st, 2021, 9:35 am

Sphenocorona wrote:
March 21st, 2021, 12:49 am
Here's an elementary H-to-2Gn (known G9 plus new G14), with a new timing on a known lane, NW17T101
FOUR GLIDERS??? O_O
Help me find high-period c/2 technology!
My guide: https://bit.ly/3uJtzu9
My c/2 tech collection: https://bit.ly/3qUJg0u
Overview of periods: https://bit.ly/3LwE0I5
Most wanted periods: 76,116

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Re: H-to-G and H-to-Gn converter collection

Post by Jormungant » March 21st, 2021, 11:56 am

wwei47 wrote:
March 21st, 2021, 9:35 am
Sphenocorona wrote:
March 21st, 2021, 12:49 am
Here's an elementary H-to-2Gn (known G9 plus new G14), with a new timing on a known lane, NW17T101
FOUR GLIDERS??? O_O
indeed, and also a repeat time of +- 83 which is quite impressive, and that repeat time can improved if 1 SW glider is suppressed.

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Re: H-to-G and H-to-Gn converter collection

Post by Sphenocorona » March 21st, 2021, 10:17 pm

Jormungant wrote:
March 21st, 2021, 11:56 am
[...it also has] a repeat time of +- 83 which is quite impressive, and that repeat time can improved if 1 SW glider is suppressed.
Oh yeah, I forgot to mention the decent repeat time (which is indeed 83). It can also be overclocked at p81 while retaining all four glider outputs as well. The original slower block cleanup using an eater also left the NW31 lane transparent if I remember correctly, so I guess I shouldve shown both in my edit - maybe I'll do another edit to include both when I have the chance, if that would be useful. The new one is almost entirely better in terms of bounding box and envelope though.

On a side note, I still find it funny how the block in the SE30 output version manages to perform its normal catalysis at just the right time to cleanly eat the NW17 glider with its thumb spark, which would normally just crash into the block and destroy it!

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Re: H-to-G and H-to-Gn converter collection

Post by EvinZL » April 14th, 2021, 1:07 pm

Package of four known gliders

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x = 29, y = 35, rule = LifeHistory
12.4B5.2A$13.4B4.A.A.2A$6.2A6.4B5.A.A$7.A6.4B4.2A.A$7.A.AB3.5B2.3B.A.
2A$8.2AB.3BD6B4A2.A$10.4B2D6BAB2.2A$10.3B2D7B.3A$10.4BD7B3.A$11.4BD4B
5.A.A$.2A7.10B6.2A$2.A8.9B$2.A.AB4.10B$3.2AB.14B$5.17B$5.17B$6.17B$5.
17B.B$3.21BA$.19B2.BA.A$.2BC16B3.BA$3BCBC4B.10B$.2B3C4B2.10B$5BC4B2.11B
$9B4.6B.4B$2B10.7B2.4B$B12.6B3.4B$13.7B3.4B$14.5B5.4B$14.6B5.4B$12.9B
5.3B$12.2A.7B5.2B$13.A5.4B5.B$10.3A7.4B$10.A10.4B!
It gives a more compact and faster version of one of them

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x = 35, y = 37, rule = LifeHistory
17.A$17.3A$20.A$19.2A6.2A$19.4B4.A.A.2A$12.2A7.3B5.A.A$13.A6.4B4.2A.A
$13.A.AB3.5B2.3B.A.2A$14.2AB.10B4A2.A$16.12BAB2.2A$16.12B.3A$16.12B3.
A$17.9B5.A.A$7.2A7.10B6.2A$8.A8.9B$8.A.AB4.10B$9.2AB.14B$11.17B$11.
17B$12.17B$11.17B.B$9.21BA$7.19B2.BA.A$7.2BC16B3.BA$6.3BCBC4B.10B$7.
2B3C4B2.10B$6.5BC4B2.11B$5.10B4.6B.4B$4.4B10.7B2.4B$4.3B12.6B3.4B$2.
4B13.7B3.4B$2.2A15.6B5.4B$3.A15.5B7.4B$3A15.6B8.3B$A17.4B11.2B$18.2B
2AB11.B$20.2A!
EDIT: Is this connectable?

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x = 33, y = 35, rule = LifeHistory
7.2B.B3.B.4B5.2A$5.7B.8B4.A.A.2A$4.12BD.4B5.A.A$4.11B3D4B4.2A.A$4.11B
D7B2.3B.A.2A$4.15BD6B4A2.A$.B.15B2D6BAB2.2A$2A15B2D7B.3A$2AB.14BD7B3.
A$.B3.14BD4B5.A.A$4.20B6.2A$4.8B4.8B$2.2AB.5B3.10B$.A.AB2.18B$.A7.17B
$2A7.17B$10.17B$9.17B.B$7.21BA$5.19B2.BA.A$5.2BD16B3.BA$4.3BDBD4B.10B
$5.2B3D4B2.10B$4.5BD4B2.11B$3.10B4.6B.4B$2.4B10.7B2.4B$.4B12.6B3.4B$
4B13.7B3.4B$3B15.5B5.4B$2B16.6B5.4B$B15.9B5.3B$16.2A.7B5.2B$17.A5.4B
5.B$14.3A7.4B$14.A10.4B!

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Re: H-to-G and H-to-Gn converter collection

Post by MathAndCode » April 17th, 2021, 8:00 pm

Here are two H->G conduits with the same starting point that I found today:

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x = 41, y = 35, rule = B3/S23
21b2o$10bo11bo$10b3o9bobo$13bo9b2o$12b2o4$39b2o$39b2o6$2o$bo29b2o$bob
o27b2o$2b2o7$2bo$2bobo20b2o$2b3o20bo$4bo10b2o3b2o4b3o$13bo2bo4bo6bo$13b
3o4bo$20b2o$13b3o$13bo2bo$15b2o!

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x = 40, y = 42, rule = B3/S23
29bo$28bobo$26bo2bobo$25bob2o2b3o$21b2o2bo3b2o3bo$21b2o3b3o2b3o$29bob
o$28bobo7b2o$10bo18bo8bo$10b3o23bobo$13bo22b2o$12b2o11$2o$bo$bobo$2b2o
7$2bo$2bobo20b2o$2b3o20bo$4bo10b2o3b2o4b3o$13bo2bo4bo6bo$13b3o4bo$20b
2o$13b3o$13bo2bo$15b2o!
EDIT by dvgrn: Top H-to-G is NE1T49, bottom H-to-G is SE44T39.
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Re: H-to-G and H-to-Gn converter collection

Post by Sphenocorona » June 16th, 2021, 2:58 am

EDIT: This is old, see next paragraph. Crossposting from the Elementary Conduits collection to help keep things up-to-date here, an H-to-3G (new outputs NE25T122 and NE53T81, both on transparent lanes) based on Kazyan's recent conduit partial:

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x = 52, y = 55, rule = LifeHistory
10.2A.2A$11.A.A$6.2A.A5.A.2A$5.A.A.2A3.2A.A.A$4.A2.B2.BA.AB2.B2.A$4.
7AB.B7A$8.3B.B.3B$6.3AB.3B.B3A$5.A.BA3BA3BAB.A31.B$5.2A3.BABAB3.2A30.
2B$10.BABAB34.3B$10.2BA2B33.4B$10.2B.2B32.4B$8.B.5B31.4B$6.9B30.4B$6.
8B2A28.4B$5.2A6BA2BA26.4B$5.2AB.5B2AB25.4B$6.B2.8B24.4B$9.8B3.2B18.4B
$10.12B17.4B$10.14B14.4B$10.15B12.4B$8.18B10.4B$6.21B8.4B$6.2BC19B6.
4B$5.3BCBC19B3.5B$6.2B3C20B.7B$5.5BC29B2.B$4.10B.25B.B2A$3.4B9.26B2A$
2.4B10.24B.2B$.4B12.23B$4B13.24B$3B16.23B$2B17.24B$B18.23B9.B$18.25B
7.2B$18.24B7.3B$19.23B6.4B$19.25B3.4B$21.29B$23.8B2.16B$24.7B3.14B$
25.5B5.13B$27.2B7.12B$35.12B$31.15B$30.16B$30.15B$30.14B$28.2AB.10B$
27.A.AB2.7B$27.A6.6B$26.2A9.2B!
EDIT: While looking through previous posts in this thread I realized that Kazyan actually already found this, and EvinZL had already found this simple version of it too. I didn't realize since I didn't get any results for there being NE25 or NE53 glider outputs when looking with the forum search.

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Re: H-to-G and H-to-Gn converter collection

Post by EvinZL » July 9th, 2021, 8:17 pm

A higher clearance RNE variant (that I just found) allows this. It may be usable as another edgeshooter that produces an extra annoying glider, and it output is quite far back (NE-28T85, I think)

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x = 119, y = 122, rule = LifeHistory
40$62.4B14.4B$63.4B12.4B$64.4B10.4B$65.4B8.4B$66.4B6.4B$67.4B4.6B7.2A
$68.4B2.7B7.A$69.4B.9B2.BA.A$70.14B.B2A$71.11BA3B$72.9BABA2B$73.8BABA
2B8.A$74.4B.3BA3B6.3A$75.4B.6B5.A$76.4B.6B4.2A$77.11B2.3B$78.14B$79.
4BD13B$80.3B2D13B$81.B2D14B$80.18B$80.16B.B2A$80.15B2.BA.A$80.12B8.A$
74.2A4.11B9.2A$73.B2AB2.10B$73.4B.12B$69.2B.20B$68.2A22B$68.2A22B$69.
B.21B$72.19B$71.19B$71.19B.B$71.20B2A$70.19B.B2A$68.20B3.B$68.2BD15B$
67.3BDBD14B$68.2B3D13B$67.5BD14B$66.24B$65.4B4.18B4.2A$65.3B7.17B.BA.
A$63.4B8.19B2A$63.2A11.19B$64.A10.20B$61.3A11.20B$61.A13.13B2A4B$75.
12BA2BA5B$76.11BABA5B2A$77.11BA6B2A$78.18B$76.20B$76.2A.9B2.2B$77.A4.
6B$74.3A7.3B$74.A7.5B$82.2A$83.A$80.3A$80.A!

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Re: H-to-G and H-to-Gn converter collection

Post by Gustone » August 5th, 2021, 6:55 am

Stumbled upon my old viewtopic.php?p=86228#p86228 and minimized the population / bounding box.

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x = 31, y = 54, rule = LifeHistory
9.C.C$9.2C.C$12.3C$7.5C3.C$6.C4.C2.2C10.2C$5.C.BCB4.4B6.2B2CB$2.C2.C.
2CB6.3B5.4B$.C.C.C.4BC4.4B3.4B$2.C2.C3.BCBC4.11B$5.2C2.C2BC3.B.10B$
10.2C2B.12B$12.16B$12.17B$12.17B$10.20B$8.22B$8.2BE19B$7.3BEBE17B$8.
2B3E9B2D6B$7.5BE9BDBD3B$6.17BD3B$5.4B4.14B$4.4B6.11B.B2C$3.4B8.12BC.C
$2.4B12.8B3.C$.4B13.8B3.2C$4B15.6B$9.C.C$9.2C.C$12.3C$7.5C3.C$6.C4.C
2.2C10.2C$5.C.BCB4.4B6.2B2CB$2.C2.C.2CB6.3B5.4B$.C.C.C.4BC4.4B3.4B$2.
C2.C3.BCBC4.11B$5.2C2.C2BC3.B.10B$10.2C2B.12B$12.16B$12.17B$12.17B$
10.20B$8.22B$8.2BE19B$7.3BEBE17B$8.2B3E9B2C6B$7.5BE9BCBC3B$6.17BC3B$
5.4B4.14B$4.4B6.11B.B2C$3.4B8.12BC.C$2.4B12.8B3.C$.4B13.8B3.2C$4B15.
6B!
Last edited by Gustone on August 18th, 2021, 12:40 pm, edited 2 times in total.

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Re: H-to-G and H-to-Gn converter collection

Post by MathAndCode » August 13th, 2021, 5:45 pm

Here is a Herschel-to-glider converter that I did not see in the Elementary Conduits Collection:

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x = 33, y = 64, rule = LifeHistory
3B$4B$.4B$2.4B$3.4B$4.4B$5.4B$6.4B$7.4B$8.4B$9.4B$10.4B$11.4B$12.4B$13.
4B$14.4B$15.4B$16.4B$17.4B$18.4B$19.4B$20.4B$14.2A5.4B6.2A$15.A5.4B6.
A$15.A.AB.7B.BA.A$16.2AB.7B.B2A$18.11B$18.11B$18.11B$19.8B$18.10B$18.
10B$10.2A6.9B2A$11.A5.9B.2A$11.A.AB.10B.B$12.2AB.11B$14.13B$14.13B$14.
12B$15.12B$14.14B$14.14B$15.12B$15.12B$15.11B$12.13B$11.14B$11.15B$11.
15B$11.15B$9.17B$7.19B$7.2BC16B2.A$6.3BCBC4B.9B.A.A$7.2B3C4B2.B.6B2.A
$6.5BC4B5.5B$5.10B5.B2A2B$4.4B11.AB.A.B2A$4.3B11.A.2A2.BA.A$2.4B12.A8.
A$2.2A13.2A8.2A$3.A$3A$A!
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Re: H-to-G and H-to-Gn converter collection

Post by Kazyan » August 21st, 2021, 12:19 pm

EvinZL found a periodic HNW15T105. Bellman was able to pull through and restore the bait block, yielding a stable version of the conduit:

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x = 22, y = 32, rule = B3/S23
9b2o$9b2o5b2o$16b2o3$14b2o$14b2o$20b2o$20b2o4$o$obo$3o$2bo$17b2o$17b2o
4$19b2o$19b2o$13b2o$13b2o3$14b2o$14b2o2b2o$18bobo$20bo$20b2o!
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Re: H-to-G and H-to-Gn converter collection

Post by Goldtiger997 » September 25th, 2021, 10:08 am

dvgrn wrote:
October 19th, 2019, 7:05 am
Dialing down the ambition a little, just cross-checking with Elementary Conduits and adding everything that has been found since 2016 to the stamp collection at the top of this thread, would be a great start -- would make it much easier to look up timing/lane combinations].
I went ahead and added all the new H-to-Gs I could find in this thread and the other conduit threads. I'm not sure if I've assembled it "correctly" (e.g. inclusion of variants), and I've probably missed some indirect H-to-Gs.

H-to-G-25Sep2021.rle
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The above collection also includes a SW-13T113 which I found today:

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x = 53, y = 45, rule = LifeHistory
.3D2.D3.D9.D4.3D2.5D3.D5.D4.3D$D3.D.D3.D8.2D3.D3.D3.D4.2D4.2D3.D3.D$D
5.D3.D9.D7.D3.D5.D5.D7.D$.3D2.D.D.D.5D3.D5.2D4.D5.D5.D5.2D$4.D.D.D.D
9.D7.D3.D5.D5.D7.D$D3.D.2D.2D9.D3.D3.D3.D5.D5.D3.D3.D$.3D2.D3.D8.3D3.
3D4.D4.3D3.3D3.3D6$25.A$23.3A$22.A$22.2A$19.5B$18.4B$18.5B$14.2A2.5B
4.A11.A$12.BA2BA7B3.3A7.3A$12.2B2A9B5.A5.A$10.2AB.11B4.2A5.2A$9.A.AB
3.8B5.9B$9.A6.7B.12B$8.2A4.23B$13.26B$13.28B$13.30B$12.32B$11.4B2.26B
$10.4B4.23B$9.4B4.23B$8.4B5.2BC13B3.6B$7.4B5.3BCBC4B.6B7.2A.A$6.4B7.
2B3C4B2.B.5B5.2AB3A$5.4B7.5BC4B7.2A6.B4.A$4.4B7.10B8.A6.2A.3A$3.4B7.
4B16.3A4.A.A$2.4B8.3B19.A4.A.A$.4B7.4B26.A$4B8.2A$3B10.A$2B8.3A$B9.A!

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Re: H-to-G and H-to-Gn converter collection

Post by dvgrn » September 25th, 2021, 10:24 am

Goldtiger997 wrote:
September 25th, 2021, 10:08 am
I went ahead and added all the new H-to-Gs I could find in this thread and the other conduit threads.
Yay, a new H-to-G collection! Thank you!
The above collection also includes a SW-13T113 which I found today...
Yikes, SW-13. I didn't remember if there were any reasonable conduits that could even deliver an input Herschel across that many lanes, but there's a version of F117 that just squeaks by, so we're good:

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x = 77, y = 39, rule = LifeHistory
55.A$53.3A$52.A$52.2A$49.5B$48.4B$48.5B$44.2A2.5B4.A11.A$42.BA2BA7B3.
3A7.3A$42.2B2A9B5.A5.A$40.2AB.11B4.2A5.2A$39.A.AB3.8B5.9B$32.A6.A6.7B
.12B$30.3A5.2A4.23B$17.A11.A13.26B$17.3A9.2A12.28B$20.A9.B12.30B$7.2A
10.2A9.3B9.32B$8.A10.5B5.6B6.4B2.26B$8.A.AB9.4B3.10B2.4B4.23B$9.2AB.
3B4.6B2.16B2.24B$11.7B.9BD3B2A15BD13B3.6B$11.17B2D2B2A15BDBD4B.6B7.2A
.A$12.17B2D18B3D4B2.B.5B5.2AB3A$11.18BD21BD4B7.2A6.B4.A$9.19BD26B8.A
6.2A.3A$7.18B.B3.13B.4B16.3A4.A.A$7.2BC15B5.7B.B5.3B19.A4.A.A$6.3BCBC
4B.7B7.4B7.4B26.A$7.2B3C4B2.7B5.4B8.2A$6.5BC4B4.2B2A6.3B10.A$5.10B3.
4B2A6.2B8.3A$4.4B10.2A10.B9.A$4.3B12.A$4.2B10.3A$2.2A12.A$3.A$3A$A!

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Re: H-to-G and H-to-Gn converter collection

Post by Gustone » October 10th, 2021, 2:27 pm

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x = 36, y = 48, rule = LifeHistory
17.2C$17.2C10$8.E$6.3E$6.E.E$6.E$24.2C$24.2C4$24.2C$6.2C16.2C$5.C.C$
5.C$4.2C5$33.2C$33.C$34.C$33.2C$32.C$32.3C$35.C$9.2C23.2C$4.2C2.C2.C$
.C2.C4.C.C$C.C.C5.C$.C2.C.2C$4.C2.C$5.C4.C$6.5C2$8.C$7.C.C$8.C!
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Re: H-to-G and H-to-Gn converter collection

Post by MathAndCode » October 13th, 2021, 12:17 am

Gustone wrote:
October 10th, 2021, 2:27 pm

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x = 36, y = 48, rule = LifeHistory
17.2C$17.2C10$8.E$6.3E$6.E.E$6.E$24.2C$24.2C4$24.2C$6.2C16.2C$5.C.C$
5.C$4.2C5$33.2C$33.C$34.C$33.2C$32.C$32.3C$35.C$9.2C23.2C$4.2C2.C2.C$
.C2.C4.C.C$C.C.C5.C$.C2.C.2C$4.C2.C$5.C4.C$6.5C2$8.C$7.C.C$8.C!
I reduced the population.

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x = 32, y = 45, rule = LifeHistory
13.2A$13.2A10$4.C$2.3C$2.C.C$2.C$20.2A$20.2A4$20.2A$2.2A16.2A$.A.A$.A
$2A5$29.2A$29.A$30.A$29.2A$28.A$28.3A$31.A$30.2A5$10.2A$11.A$8.3A$8.A!
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Re: H-to-G and H-to-Gn converter collection

Post by calcyman » October 14th, 2021, 11:02 am

MathAndCode wrote:
October 13th, 2021, 12:17 am
Gustone wrote:
October 10th, 2021, 2:27 pm

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x = 36, y = 48, rule = LifeHistory
17.2C$17.2C10$8.E$6.3E$6.E.E$6.E$24.2C$24.2C4$24.2C$6.2C16.2C$5.C.C$
5.C$4.2C5$33.2C$33.C$34.C$33.2C$32.C$32.3C$35.C$9.2C23.2C$4.2C2.C2.C$
.C2.C4.C.C$C.C.C5.C$.C2.C.2C$4.C2.C$5.C4.C$6.5C2$8.C$7.C.C$8.C!
I reduced the population.

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x = 32, y = 45, rule = LifeHistory
13.2A$13.2A10$4.C$2.3C$2.C.C$2.C$20.2A$20.2A4$20.2A$2.2A16.2A$.A.A$.A
$2A5$29.2A$29.A$30.A$29.2A$28.A$28.3A$31.A$30.2A5$10.2A$11.A$8.3A$8.A!
More importantly, you've made it Spartan. (Well, you'll need the 2-eater version of the catalyst below instead of the eater+snake if you want slmake to be able to synthesise it in all orientations.)

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x = 45, y = 50, rule = LifeHistory
3B$4B21.2A$5B19.B2AB$6B19.3B$.6B17.B.B$2.6B16.5B$3.6B15.5B$4.6B15.5B$
5.6B13.6B$6.6B12.7B$7.6B11.7B$8.12B3.7B$9.7BC4B2.7B$10.4B3C4B2.7B$11.
3BCBC4B.8B$12.2BC15B2.B$12.18B.B2A$14.18B2A$15.15B.2B$16.14B$16.14B.
2B$16.16B2A$14.2AB.14B2A$13.A.AB3.10B.2B$13.A7.9B$12.2A6.10B$20.10B$
20.10B$21.10B$21.10B$21.12B10.2A$21.13B8.A.A$21.12B9.A$21.13B7.2A$21.
17B.BA$21.19B3A$21.18B.B2.A$22.16B4.2A$23.16B$23.16B$24.16B$22.18B$
22.2A2.13B$23.A3.11B$20.3A6.9B$20.A9.8B$30.7B$30.5B$31.3B$32.B!
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Re: H-to-G and H-to-Gn converter collection

Post by dvgrn » October 14th, 2021, 11:25 am

calcyman wrote:
October 14th, 2021, 11:02 am
More importantly, you've made it Spartan...
Sadly, though, this is all a rediscovery. HSW-2T21_SW-4T237 has been in the elementary conduits collection for years, with a slightly different position of the southernmost block:

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x = 101, y = 66, rule = LifeHistory
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D.D3.D7.D3.D3.D3.D3.D2.2D9.D3.D.D3.D9.2D4.D3.D3.D.D3.D5.D$D3.D.D5.D3.
D11.D3.D7.D3.D9.D5.D3.D8.D.D4.D7.D5.D4.D$5D2.3D2.D.D.D.5D4.D4.D6.D4.D
10.3D2.D.D.D.5D.D2.D4.D6.D4.2D4.D$D3.D5.D.D.D.D9.D5.D5.D5.D13.D.D.D.D
7.5D3.D5.D7.D2.D$D3.D.D3.D.2D.2D8.D6.D4.D6.D9.D3.D.2D.2D10.D4.D4.D4.D
3.D.D$D3.D2.3D2.D3.D7.5D3.D3.5D2.3D2.5D2.3D2.D3.D10.D4.D3.5D2.3D2.D
10$58.B$57.3B$56.5B$56.7B$46.A9.8B$46.3A6.9B$49.A3.11B$48.2A2.13B$48.
18B$50.16B$49.16B$49.16B$48.16B4.2A$47.18B.B2.A$47.19B3A$47.17B.BA$
47.13B7.2A$47.12B9.A$47.13B8.A.A$47.12B10.2A$47.10B$47.10B$46.10B$46.
10B$38.2A6.10B$39.A7.9B$39.A.AB3.10B.2B$40.2AB.14B2A$42.16B2A$42.14B.
2B$42.14B$41.15B.2B$40.18B2A$38.18B.B2A$38.2BD15B2.B$37.3BDBD4B.8B$
36.4B3D4B2.7B$35.7BD4B2.7B$34.12B3.7B$33.6B11.7B$32.6B12.7B$31.6B13.
6B$30.6B15.5B$30.5B15.5B$30.4B16.5B$30.3B18.3B$30.2B18.4B$30.B18.4B$
50.B2AB$51.2A!

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