C28 wrote: ↑August 4th, 2021, 2:32 pm
almost U to 3 gliders, just need to get rid of the block and tub
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x = 16, y = 33, rule = B3/S23
14b2o$14b2o9$2o$obo$2bo$2b2o$4bo6b3o$2b3o6b3o$bo8bobo$b2o7b2o5$5bo$4b
obo$5bo5$7b2o$6bobo$6bo$5b2o!
It's probably time for me to say something about posts like this one. This "Elementary Conduits" thread has historically been used mostly for posting complete discoveries -- i.e., elementary conduits that actually work to change signal Y into signal Z ... even if people don't always pay attention to my pleas about only posting Y-to-Z conduits if there's a known X-to-Y and a known Z-to-something-else that can actually connect to it.
If everybody posted here all the conduits that they put together that
don't quite work, there would be so many posts that it would be hard to find the actual working conduits in among them. There are a number of other threads where it would be better to post speculative incomplete conduits of this type. See the first post in the thread for a list of options:
Something that produces an extra tub and block could either go in the
thread for posting dirty conduits -- or if you want to get rid of that extra junk somehow, then it's more
thread for posting speculative reactions that might allow for future conduits.
In this case, the "almost U to 3 gliders" reaction would be much more worth trying to salvage, if there was any known likely way to get a U reaction to appear in the starting position, with conduits that don't interfere with the U-to-3G reaction itself. Look at the problem in LifeHistory, with the 3G reaction envelope shown:
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x = 45, y = 69, rule = LifeHistory
.2D$2D2B$.BD2B$2.4B$3.4B$4.4B$5.4B$6.4B$7.4B$8.4B$9.4B$10.4B$11.4B$
12.4B$13.4B$14.4B7.2C3.B$15.4B5.B2CB.3B$16.4B5.3B.5B$17.4B5.B.8B$18.
4B3.12B$19.4B.14B$20.18B$21.18B$22.18B$23.16B$11.2C10.16B$11.C.C9.17B
$13.C9.18B$13.2C7.18B$15.CB.B.2B3C15B$13.3C6B3C14B$12.C2.B.4BCBC14B4.
3D$12.2C3.4B2C6B2D7B3.3BD$17.12B2D12BD$18.25B$19.23B$17.B.13BD8B$16.C
14BDBD6B$15.C.CB.12BD6B$16.CB2.18B$21.17B$20.4B.12B$19.5B.12B$20.3B4.
B.7B$18.2CB7.7B$17.C.CB6.4B2.B$17.C8.4B$16.2C7.4B$24.4B$23.4B$22.4B$
21.4B$20.4B$19.4B$18.4B$17.4B$16.4B$15.4B$14.4B$13.4B$12.4B$11.4B$10.
4B$9.4B$8.4B$7.4B$6.D3B$5.D3B$5.3D!
Even if you don't add more catalysts to get rid of the extra junk blockntub constellation, your hypothetical input X-to-U conduit would have to not have any catalysts that overlap with the blue area. That's going to have to be a very unlikely, or very expensive, conduit.
Adding catalysts to suppress the blockntub while still getting those three gliders out doesn't look like a likely proposition at all, anyway, so you'd probably have to use up some of the output gliders instead, bouncing them around to shoot down the extra junk. That will clutter up the conduit and make it even less likely that any reasonable input signal will be able to get to the starting point.
I'm not trying to discourage you from hunting for these things, just trying to give you some idea of why your recent posts on this thread have often not gotten much of any response. It would be better to find another thread for incomplete conduits that are too speculative to have any likely completion.