## The Hunting of the Elementary Conduits

For discussion of specific patterns or specific families of patterns, both newly-discovered and well-known.
thunk
Posts: 170
Joined: October 3rd, 2015, 8:50 pm
Location: Central USA

### Re: The Hunting of the Elementary Conduits

What time is it?

Update time!

9 conduits added from this thread since 13 April--I haven't checked the rest of the forum. If there are other conduits worthy of inclusion, or errata in this update, please notify me.
Conduit Collection 2Aug2016.rle.gz
The Big Board
conduits-old-2Aug2016.zip
Conduit files
"What's purple and commutes?
The Evanston Express."

gmc_nxtman
Posts: 1149
Joined: May 26th, 2015, 7:20 pm

### Re: The Hunting of the Elementary Conduits

You missed Simeks' RF48H variant:

Code: Select all

x = 32, y = 30, rule = LifeHistory
16.2A$12.2A2.A$12.A.A.A$13.B.A4.A$8.6B4.3A$7.8B2.A$7.7B3.2A$7.7B2.3B$
6.11B4.2B2.2B$5.4BC18BD$4.5B2C17BDBD$4.4B2C18B3DB$3.27BD$4.25B$4.18B.
B$4.15B$4.16B9.2A$3.17B5.A3.2A$3.16B5.A.A$4.13B6.A.A$4.8B.2B8.A$6.5B 3.AB6.2A$6.5B2.A.A$4.6B3.2A$4.4B$4.2B2AB$2.2AB.2A$.A.AB$.A$2A!  It does provide an advantage over other R->Hs because it is the only conduit that can connect to BFx176R. thunk Posts: 170 Joined: October 3rd, 2015, 8:50 pm Location: Central USA ### Re: The Hunting of the Elementary Conduits Thanks, @gmc_nxtman! Here's an updated version, also with three more conduits. The former "RF48He" that was unusual was relocated and renamed "RF48Hf". The @simeks variant is now "RF48He". Conduit Collection 5Aug2016.rle.gz (119.9 KiB) Downloaded 589 times Conduits-old-5Aug2016.zip (166.89 KiB) Downloaded 561 times "What's purple and commutes? The Evanston Express." gmc_nxtman Posts: 1149 Joined: May 26th, 2015, 7:20 pm ### Re: The Hunting of the Elementary Conduits Also these B->Gs from simeks. The last one is a little bit weird. He had an H-to-B and B-to-W in that post as well but I don't think they can connect to anything. Code: Select all x = 26, y = 39, rule = LifeHistory .4B$2.4B$3.4B$4.4B$5.4B$6.4B$7.4B$8.4B10.A$9.4B8.A.A$10.4B7.A.A$11.4B 5.2A.2A$12.4B5.B2.A$13.4B2.B2ABA$14.4B.B2A.A.A$15.5B4.2A$15.6B$15.6B$
12.10B$11.2A10B$11.2A9B$12.11B$12.11B$14.9B$4.7B.10B$4.19B$2.D20B$2.B D18B$.2B2D17B$2B2D2B2A13B2A$2BD3B2A13B2A$2.18B$2.10B2.5B$3.6B5.7B$4.
3B8.B3.2A$4.B14.A$3.2A15.3A$3.A18.A$4.A$3.2A!  Code: Select all x = 30, y = 33, rule = LifeHistory 10.2C$11.C6.C$10.C5.3C$10.2C3.C$6.2C7.2C$6.2C4$7.E7.D12.2C$8.E6.D.D
10.2C$8.2E5.3D6.C$7.2E8.D5.C.C$7.E14.C2.C$23.2C4$8.3D$8.D$7.3D3$14.D$13.2D$12.2D$13.2D$2.2C$.C.C$.C$2C16.C$17.C.C$17.2C!  By the way, BR24B, HF110B, HB56B, HL153B, HF144B_adjustable, PB(x)137B, BF137H, all use the wrong B-heptomino relative: Code: Select all x = 19, y = 5, rule = LifeHistory 16.D$2D15.D$.2D14.2D$2D14.2D$D15.D!  dvgrn Moderator Posts: 6722 Joined: May 17th, 2009, 11:00 pm Location: Madison, WI Contact: ### Re: The Hunting of the Elementary Conduits Looks great! After things settle down and don't change for a week or two, I'll update the files in the first post in this thread, and add a list there of all the conduit names. The August 5 collection is up to 408 conduits, I believe: Code: Select all BB309B (in b_b_90.rle) BBx187H (in b_h_04.rle) BBx19R (in b_r_02.rle) BBx251H (in b_h_09.rle) BF137H (in b_h_91.rle) BF187Ha (in b_h_05a.rle) BF187Hb (in b_h_05b.rle) BF20Ha (in b_h_07a.rle) BF20Hb (in b_h_07b.rle) BF221P (in b_p_03.rle) BF22P (in b_p_01.rle) BFx157B (in b_b_01.rle) BFx176R (in b_r_03.rle) BFx183R (in b_r_90.rle) BFx199B (in b_b_05.rle) BFx59H (in b_h_01.rle) BLx19R (in b_r_01.rle) BLx291H (in b_h_10.rle) BNE14T30 (in b_g_14.rle) BNE17T68 (in b_g_06.rle) BNE5T66 (in b_g_04.rle) BNW-11T124 (in b_g_16.rle) BNW-12T9_SE22T31 (in b_g_02.rle) BNW-4T72 (in b_g_07.rle) BNW39T172 (in b_g_10.rle) BNW5T30 (in b_g_08.rle) BR146H (in b_h_02.rle) BR241P (in b_p_02.rle) BR24B (in b_b_07.rle) BR292H (in b_h_08.rle) BR84H (in b_h_03.rle) BRx161B (in b_b_02a.rle) BRx161B_Lx303H (in b_b_02b.rle) BRx161B_Lx303H (in b_h_06.rle) BRx204B (in b_b_06.rle) BRx46B (in b_b_04.rle) BSE15T2 (in b_g_11.rle) BSE1T1 (in b_g_15.rle) BSE22T31 (in b_g_03.rle) BSE48T33 (in b_g_05.rle) BSE8T-22 (in b_g_01.rle) BSW-5T37 (in b_g_09.rle) BSW1T250_BSE15T2 (in b_g_12.rle) BSW6T73 (in b_g_13.rle) BSW6T73_SW10T285 (in b_g4_01.rle) CB148P (in c_p_01.rle) CBx37C (in c_c_02.rle) CF106C (in c_c_03.rle) CF85B (in c_b_02.rle) CFx50C (in c_c_01.rle) CFx53B (in c_b_01.rle) CFx73H (in c_h_01.rle) CL26R (in c_r_01.rle) CNE-1T9 (in c_g_05.rle) CNE0T0 (in c_g_04.rle) CNW-12T13 (in c_g_08.rle) CNW-1T27a (in c_g_02a.rle) CNW-1T27b (in c_g_02b.rle) CNW10T73a (in c_g_01a.rle) CNW10T73b (in c_g_01b.rle) CRx28B (in c_b_03.rle) CSE12T35 (in c_g_03.rle) CSW-4T34 (in c_g_07.rle) CSW-7T74 (in c_g_06.rle) G-10G1LR (in g11_r_01.rle) G-15FHa_syringe (in g_h_01b.rle) G-15FHb_syringe_depend (in g_h_01a.rle) G-19G-17FxR (in g2_r_01.rle) G-22G-17FxR (in g5_r_01.rle) G-23G-17FxRa (in g6_r_01a.rle) G-23G-17FxRb (in g6_r_01b.rle) G-29RH_SilverGtoH497rep (in g_h_03.rle) G-2RH_SilverGtoH575rep (in g_h_02.rle) G-30G-17FxR (in g13_r_01.rle) G-35G-30LxH (in g5_h_02.rle) G-9G-5LxR (in g4_r_01.rle) G17G19RR (in g2_r_02.rle) G25G31BH (in g6_h_01.rle) G26G31BH (in g5_h_01.rle) G29G31BH (in g2_h_01.rle) GG0NEe_Semi-Snark (in g0_g_01.rle) GG13SE9 (in g13_g_01.rle) GG18SWo_SE10a (in g18_g_01a.rle) GG18SWo_SE10b (in g18_g_01b.rle) GG2NW-8 (in g2_g_03.rle) GG2NW10 (in g2_g_04.rle) GG2SE-2 (in g2_g_01.rle) GG2SE6 (in g2_g_02.rle) GG2SWoG3 (in g2_g3_01.rle) GG3SWeG3 (in g3_g3_01.rle) GG4SWea (in g4_g_01.rle) GG4SWeb (in g4_g_02.rle) GG4SWoG3 (in g4_g3_01.rle) GG5SE1 (in g5_g_02.rle) GG5SWo (in g5_g_01.rle) GG6SE2a (in g6_g_01.rle) GG6SE2b (in g6_g_02.rle) GNEe_SWo_NW54_Silver_reflector (in g_g_03.rle) GNEo_Snark (in g_g_01.rle) GNW8a_rectifier (in g_g_02a.rle) GNW8b_boojum_reflector (in g_g_02b.rle) HB119B (in h_b_90.rle) HB56B (in h_b_18.rle) HB60H (in h_h_05.rle) HB62B (in h_b_26.rle) HB62P (in h_p_05.rle) HB91R (in h_r_05.rle) HBx106H_Fx119H (in h_h_16.rle) HBx125H (in h_h_10.rle) HBx138B (in h_b_16.rle) HBx362H (in h_h_96.rle) HF104C (in h_c_03.rle) HF110B (in h_b_17.rle) HF116Ha (in h_h_01a.rle) HF116Hb (in h_h_01b.rle) HF122B (in h_b_14.rle) HF124R (in h_r_06.rle) HF134P (in h_p_07.rle) HF135Q (in h_q_01.rle) HF144B_adjustable (in h_b_91.rle) HF150H (in h_h_14.rle) HF157R (in h_r_04.rle) HF171H (in h_h_02.rle) HF198W (in h_w_04.rle) HF214B (in h_b_25.rle) HF244H (in h_h_95.rle) HF271H (in h_h_94.rle) HF2P (in h_p_02.rle) HF94B (in h_b_03.rle) HF95P (in h_p_01.rle) HFx107B (in h_b_02.rle) HFx119H (in h_h_04.rle) HFx135W (in h_w_03.rle) HFx158H (in h_h_09.rle) HFx197B (in h_b_12.rle) HFx236B (in h_b_27.rle) HFx58Ba (in h_b_01a.rle) HFx58Bb (in h_b_01b.rle) HFx77Ha (in h_h_03a.rle) HFx77Hb (in h_h_03b.rle) HL141B (in h_b_06.rle) HL153B (in h_b_20.rle) HL156R (in h_r_11.rle) HL163W (in h_w_02.rle) HL166W (in h_w_01.rle) HL167P (in h_p_04.rle) HL226B (in h_b_21.rle) HL227P (in h_p_06.rle) HL75P (in h_p_03.rle) HL79B (in h_b_07.rle) HL83R (in h_r_09.rle) HL98B (in h_b_19.rle) HLx103B (in h_b_22.rle) HLx111R (in h_r_03.rle) HLx185B (in h_b_24.rle) HLx226H (in h_h_92.rle) HLx231H (in h_h_93.rle) HLx30R (in h_r_10.rle) HLx36W (in h_w_05.rle) HLx53B (in h_b_05.rle) HLx59B (in h_b_15.rle) HLx69R (in h_r_01.rle) HLx86H (in h_h_13.rle) HLx86R (in h_r_02.rle) HNE-14T138 (in h_g_92.rle) HNE16T14a (in h_g_18a.rle) HNE16T14b (in h_g_18b.rle) HNE18T32 (in h_g_16.rle) HNE1T22 (in h_g_42.rle) HNE23T140 (in h_g_17.rle) HNE2T56 (in h_g_36.rle) HNE36T22 (in h_g_15.rle) HNE5T-4 (in h_g_27.rle) HNE8T3 (in h_g_19.rle) HNW-5T80 (in h_g_29.rle) HNW16T108 (in h_g_11.rle) HNW16T96 (in h_g_32.rle) HNW17T130 (in h_g_10.rle) HNW18T106 (in h_g_07.rle) HNW19T102 (in h_g_05.rle) HNW19T102_NW21T247 (in h_g2_92.rle) HNW22T200 (in h_g_13.rle) HNW24T386_NW31T120 (in h_g7_01.rle) HNW25T126_NW31T120 (in h_g6_03.rle) HNW26T109 (in h_g_37.rle) HNW2T132 (in h_g_12.rle) HNW30T138 (in h_g_09.rle) HNW31T120 (in h_g_06.rle) HNW31T207_NW35T419 (in h_g4_90.rle) HNW34T204 (in h_g_90.rle) HNW39T203 (in h_g_91.rle) HNW6T106 (in h_g_31.rle) HNW8T186 (in h_g_08.rle) HR107R (in h_r_08.rle) HR117B (in h_b_11.rle) HR126H (in h_h_07.rle) HR143B (in h_b_10.rle) HR149R (in h_r_12.rle) HR160C (in h_c_02.rle) HR197H (in h_h_15.rle) HR203B (in h_b_08.rle) HR246H (in h_h_98.rle) HR321H (in h_h_97.rle) HR43C (in h_c_04.rle) HR44Ba (in h_b_09a.rle) HR44Bb (in h_b_09b.rle) HR44Bc (in h_b_09c.rle) HR48B (in h_b_23.rle) HR64H (in h_h_06.rle) HRx131B (in h_b_04.rle) HRx140H (in h_h_08.rle) HRx160C (in h_c_01.rle) HRx162H (in h_h_11.rle) HRx191H (in h_h_12.rle) HRx32B (in h_b_13.rle) HRx334R (in h_r_07.rle) HS-15T152M (in h_m_01.rle) HSE-17T106 (in h_g_38.rle) HSE-2T47 (in h_g_14.rle) HSE-2T80 (in h_g_21.rle) HSE16T100 (in h_g_34.rle) HSE16T36 (in h_g_93.rle) HSE19T106 (in h_g_41.rle) HSE19T42 (in h_g_94.rle) HSE21T-4 (in h_g_40.rle) HSE22T-8 (in h_g_20.rle) HSE22T-8_SE29T-2 (in h_g7_03.rle) HSE23T-6 (in h_g_28.rle) HSE29T12 (in h_g_35.rle) HSE30T14 (in h_g_39.rle) HSE31T60 (in h_g_23.rle) HSE39T59 (in h_g_25.rle) HSE39T59_SE41T149 (in h_g2_93.rle) HSE5T12 (in h_g_30.rle) HSE5T227 (in h_g_22.rle) HSE5T23 (in h_g_24.rle) HSE7T14_SE16T36_NW31T120 (in h_g9_02.rle) HSE7T14a (in h_g_26a.rle) HSE7T14b (in h_g_26b.rle) HSW-10T202_SW-2T21 (in h_g8_01.rle) HSW-1T110_SW-2T21 (in h_g1_01.rle) HSW-1T177_SW-2T21 (in h_g1_02.rle) HSW-2T140_SW-2T21 (in h_g0_02.rle) HSW-2T145_SW-2T21 (in h_g0_01.rle) HSW-2T21_SW-4T104 (in h_g2_04.rle) HSW-2T21a (in h_g_01a.rle) HSW-2T21b (in h_g_01b.rle) HSW-2T345_SW-2T21_NW38T161 (in h_g0_03.rle) HSW-4T237_SW-2T21 (in h_g2_02.rle) HSW-7T38_SW-2T21 (in h_g5_01.rle) HSW-8T89_SW-2T21 (in h_g6_02.rle) HSW0T230_SW-2T21 (in h_g2_01.rle) HSW0T320_SW-2T21 (in h_g2_03.rle) HSW10T108 (in h_g_02.rle) HSW10T108_SW19T319 (in h_g9_03.rle) HSW10T97 (in h_g_03.rle) HSW1T118_SW-2T21 (in h_g3_01.rle) HSW1T43_SW-2T21 (in h_g3_02.rle) HSW25T179 (in h_g_04.rle) HSW2T98_SW-2T21 (in h_g4_01.rle) HSW3T188_SW-2T21 (in h_g5_02.rle) HSW4T188_SW-2T21 (in h_g6_01.rle) HSW4T44 (in h_g_33.rle) HSW5T160_SW-2T21_SE22T-8 (in h_g7_02.rle) HSW6T167_SW-2T21_NW31T120 (in h_g8_02.rle) HSW7T255_SW-2T21 (in h_g9_01.rle) HSW8T86 (in h_g_43.rle) LNEe_FomichevLtoG (in l_g_01.rle) MNEe_FomichevMtoG (in m_g_02.rle) MNWe_MerzenichMtoG (in m_g_01.rle) PB146C (in p_c_03B.rle) PB173B (in p_b_06B.rle) PB30R (in p_r_06Bx.rle) PB41R (in p_r_07B.rle) PB68B (in p_b_02B.rle) PB90B (in p_b_04B.rle) PBx146C (in p_c_03Bx.rle) PBx173B (in p_b_06Bx.rle) PBx30R (in p_r_06B.rle) PBx41R (in p_r_07Bx.rle) PBx68B (in p_b_02Bx.rle) PBx90B (in p_b_04Bx.rle) PF140R (in p_r_02F.rle) PF171H (in p_h_01F.rle) PF291R (in p_r_04F.rle) PF31Qa (in p_q_01a.rle) PF31Qb (in p_q_01b.rle) PF35W (in p_w_01F.rle) PF39C (in p_c_04F.rle) PF40B (in p_b_05F.rle) PF56W (in p_w_02F.rle) PF81Ha (in p_h_02aF.rle) PF81Hb (in p_h_02bF.rle) PF81Hc (in p_h_02cF.rle) PF81Hd (in p_h_02dF.rle) PF99H (in p_h_90F.rle) PFx140R (in p_r_02Fx.rle) PFx171H (in p_h_01Fx.rle) PFx291R (in p_r_04Fx.rle) PFx35W (in p_w_01Fx.rle) PFx39C (in p_c_04Fx.rle) PFx40B (in p_b_05Fx.rle) PFx56W (in p_w_02Fx.rle) PFx81Ha (in p_h_02aFx.rle) PFx81Hb (in p_h_02bFx.rle) PFx81Hc (in p_h_02cFx.rle) PFx81Hd (in p_h_02dFx.rle) PFx99H (in p_h_90Fx.rle) PL124R (in p_r_03L.rle) PL153R (in p_r_05L.rle) PL328C (in p_c_01L.rle) PL8P (in p_p_01L.rle) PLx112B (in p_b_03Lx.rle) PLx127R (in p_r_01Lx.rle) PLx142C_R142C (in p_c_02.rle) PLx196H (in p_h_91Lx.rle) PLx9B (in p_b_01Lx.rle) PNE-6T40_SE-6T40 (in p_g_11.rle) PNE19T123 (in p_g_13.rle) PNE8T63 (in p_g_15.rle) PNE9T138 (in p_g_02.rle) PNW-16T5 (in p_g_16.rle) PNW-3T177 (in p_g_06.rle) PNW-8T28 (in p_g_14.rle) PNW11T160 (in p_g_04.rle) PNW6T138 (in p_g_01.rle) PNW6T184 (in p_g_05.rle) PNW7T126 (in p_g_07.rle) PR112B (in p_b_03.rle) PR127R (in p_r_01R.rle) PR196H (in p_h_91R.rle) PR8P (in p_p_01R.rle) PR9B (in p_b_01R.rle) PRx124R (in p_r_03Rx.rle) PRx153R (in p_r_05Rx.rle) PRx328C (in p_c_01Rx.rle) PS12T565L (in p_l_01.rle) PSE-14T66 (in p_g_12.rle) PSE20T111 (in p_g_08.rle) PSE24T144 (in p_g_03.rle) PSE34T59 (in p_g_09.rle) PSE3T-5 (in p_g_10.rle) QF116B (in q_b_01F.rle) QF138W (in q_w_01F.rle) QF157W (in q_w_02F.rle) QFx116B (in q_b_01Fx.rle) QFx138W (in q_w_01Fx.rle) QFx157W (in q_w_02Fx.rle) QL226H (in q_h_02L.rle) QLx149B (in q_b_02Lx.rle) QLx232Ha (in q_h_01aLx.rle) QLx232Hb (in q_h_01bLx.rle) QNE6T144 (in q_g_01.rle) QNE8T54 (in q_g_03.rle) QNE9T144 (in q_g_04.rle) QNW-10T57 (in q_g_02.rle) QR149B (in q_b_02R.rle) QR232Ha (in q_h_01aR.rle) QR232Hb (in q_h_01bR.rle) QRx226H (in q_h_02Rx.rle) RB57P (in r_p_02.rle) RBx22B (in r_b_02.rle) RF28Ba (in r_b_01a.rle) RF28Bb (in r_b_01b.rle) RF28Bc (in r_b_01c.rle) RF28Bd (in r_b_01d.rle) RF28Be (in r_b_01e.rle) RF28Bf (in r_b_01f.rle) RF28Bg (in r_b_01g.rle) RF28Bh (in r_b_01h.rle) RF28Bi (in r_b_01i.rle) RF29Pa (in r_p_01a.rle) RF29Pb (in r_p_01b.rle) RF48H_B164R (in r_h_02.rle) RF48H_B164R (in r_r_02.rle) RF48Ha (in r_h_01a.rle) RF48Hb (in r_h_01b.rle) RF48Hc (in r_h_01c.rle) RF48Hd (in r_h_01d.rle) RF48He (in r_h_01e.rle) RF48Hf (in r_h_01f.rle) RF57Ra (in r_r_01a.rle) RF57Rb (in r_r_01b.rle) RFx36R (in r_r_03.rle) RLx20C (in r_c_01.rle) RLx70B (in r_b_03.rle) RNE-19T84 (in r_g_02.rle) RNE2T28 (in r_g_10.rle) RNE6T46 (in r_g_90.rle) RNW-16T104 (in r_g_06.rle) RNW-1T43 (in r_g_13.rle) RNW3T46 (in r_g_03.rle) RR112H (in r_h_05.rle) RR174H (in r_h_04.rle) RR56Ha (in r_h_03a.rle) RR56Hb (in r_h_03b.rle) RR56Hc (in r_h_03c.rle) RSE-3T41 (in r_g_12.rle) RSE-3T46 (in r_g_11.rle) RSW-1T33 (in r_g_09.rle) RSW0T41 (in r_g_01.rle) RSW3T42 (in r_g_07.rle) RSW3T62 (in r_g_05.rle) RSW4T37 (in r_g_08.rle) RSW5T38 (in r_g_04.rle) WFx46H (in w_h_01.rle) WNW-18T15 (in w_g_02.rle) WNW-3T100 (in w_g_01.rle) Golly #CXRLE lines had crept into a few of the files -- Code: Select all b_h_05a.rle: BF187Ha b_h_05b.rle: BF187Hb b_r_90.rle: BFx183R c_r_01.rle: CL26R g_g_02b.rle: GNW8b_boojum_reflector h_c_03.rle: HF104C h_g0_02.rle: HSW-2T140_SW-2T21 h_g_16.rle: HNE18T32 h_g_34.rle: HSE16T100 h_g_35.rle: HSE29T12 h_g_36.rle: HNE2T56 p_q_01a.rle: PF31Qa q_h_02L.rle: QL226H q_h_02Rx.rle: QRx226H r_g_02.rle: RNE-19T84 -- so I cleaned those up and rebuilt the ZIP archive, which still had an August 2 folder hiding inside it anyway. Conduit-files-5Aug2016.zip August 5 collection with 15 "CXRLE" lines removed (8:31am time stamp) (149.55 KiB) Downloaded 560 times I'd better post this quick so it can be a useful starting point for the next update. Some of the glider-related labels have mutated beyond my ability to interpret them. I think I understand the negative numbers in "G-19G-17FxR" and so on, though those lane numbers are relative to the output R-pentomino, where other glider lane numbers are for output gliders, relative to the input object. I think I might rather just have "G2" as the input object in this name -- i.e., "G2FxR". Seems more readable, and the "G-19G-17" isn't really quite enough information to do anything useful with -- it wouldn't tell an automated circuit-builder script which glider has to come in first, or what relative timings are allowed. It's hard to define orientation relative to tandem gliders, though -- if it's an Fx then why not have the output R heading to the right? And offhand I can't figure out why the numbers aren't "G-18G-16", so maybe I'm interpreting them wrong. (?) Another random question: where does the "o" come from in GNEo_Snark? thunk Posts: 170 Joined: October 3rd, 2015, 8:50 pm Location: Central USA ### Re: The Hunting of the Elementary Conduits dvgrn wrote:-- so I cleaned those up and rebuilt the ZIP archive, which still had an August 2 folder hiding inside it anyway. Ahh, thanks. I was too lazy to rename the internal folder. dvgrn wrote:Some of the glider-related labels have mutated beyond my ability to interpret them. I think I understand the negative numbers in "G-19G-17FxR" and so on, though those lane numbers are relative to the output R-pentomino, where other glider lane numbers are for output gliders, relative to the input object. When I first expanded the nomenclature in November, I don't think I had much idea what to do with incoming gliders. The "timing+lane" method worked for outputs, so I decided to adapt glider lanes to the inputs, rejecting timing information as being too cumbersome. I arbitrarily defined the "forward" orientation of a glider to be SE-travelling with three of its cells in a horizontal line. In the "G-19G-17FxR" example, those orientations projected forward to a horizontal or vertical line of the forward-travelling R are 17 and 19 lanes away from the center of the output, as you figured out. The pseudo-mirror-image pair should indeed be "G16G18RR" under the current scheme, that is an error. Note that the ordering does matter somewhat--the first glider in each pattern displayed should delete a junk object/prepare the converter, and the second should create the output object. Failing that, the default is to assign more positive lane numbers to either input or output in case of multiple options. A degenerate case occurs with 90-degree G-G converters. There, the output lanes of the gliders are not fixed, but can be adjusted by two at a time, the constraint being glider color. Thus, the lane markings are "o" for odd lanes and "e" for even lanes. "GNEo" is thus an odd-lane (colour-preserving) 90-degree reflector. That being said, I do agree tandem glider inputs in the form "GxGy" should be shortened to "G(x-y)"--all of those seemed a little clunky, but as I said before, I didn't know enough about nomenclature back then. "What's purple and commutes? The Evanston Express." BlinkerSpawn Posts: 1964 Joined: November 8th, 2014, 8:48 pm Location: Getting a snacker from R-Bee's ### Re: The Hunting of the Elementary Conduits thunk wrote:Note that the ordering does matter somewhat--the first glider in each pattern displayed should delete a junk object/prepare the converter, and the second should create the output object. Failing that, the default is to assign more positive lane numbers to either input or output in case of multiple options. [...] That being said, I do agree tandem glider inputs in the form "GxGy" should be shortened to "G(x-y)"--all of those seemed a little clunky, but as I said before, I didn't know enough about nomenclature back then. So would the sign of the difference indicate the relative ordering of the glider pairs? EDIT: And for the sake of connecting tandem signal receivers to tandem signal generators, should information concerning minimum spacing be included in the name of the conduit? i.e. seeing as how the gliders in this pattern cannot be vertically offset by less than is shown here (i.e. 25 ticks), could this pattern (curr. labeled G25G31BH) be labeled G6T25BH? Code: Select all x = 51, y = 39, rule = LifeHistory 9.C$10.2C29.2A$9.2C2B11.2A15.A.A$10.4B8.BA2BA6.2A8.A$11.4B7.2B2A6.B2A B5.B2A.2A$12.4B6.3B4.B2.B.2B.7B.A$10.C2.4B4.5B.8B.6B3.A$11.C2.4B3.23B
2A.2A.A$9.3CB2.4B.26B.A.2A$10.4B2.27B4.A$11.4B2.25B4.2A$12.4B2.24B$13.4B2.21B$14.4B2.20B$15.7B2A16B$16.5BA2BA13B$17.5B2A13B$17.19B$17. 19B$16.20B$15.17B2AB$15.17B2A$16.17B$18.15B$22.11B$12.B.3B.2B.12B$7. 25B$2A3.D11B2A13B$2A2.B3D9B2A12B$5.DBD21B$7.D23B$9.2B2.2B2.11B.2A$18. 9B2.A$18.9B3.3A$20.8B4.A$21.4B.B2A$20.B2A2B.BA.A$21.2A6.A$29.2A!  EDIT 2: For one thing, this gives the two distinct G4-to-G's in the collection nontrivially distinct names: Code: Select all x = 109, y = 52, rule = LifeHistory .3D4.2D2.5D2.D3.3D4.3D2.D3.D21.3D4.2D2.5D2.3D2.5D3.3D2.D3.D$D3.D2.D.D
4.D3.2D2.D3.D2.D3.D.D3.D20.D3.D2.D.D4.D3.D3.D.D6.D3.D.D3.D$D5.D2.D4.D 4.D2.D3.D2.D5.D3.D3.3D14.D5.D2.D4.D3.D5.D6.D5.D3.D3.3D$D.3D.4D4.D4.D
3.4D3.3D2.D.D.D2.D3.D13.D.3D.4D4.D3.4D2.4D4.3D2.D.D.D2.D3.D$D3.D4.D4. D4.D6.D6.D.D.D.D2.4D14.D3.D4.D4.D3.D3.D5.D6.D.D.D.D2.4D$D3.D4.D4.D4.D
2.D3.D2.D3.D.D.D.D2.D17.D3.D4.D4.D3.D3.D.D3.D2.D3.D.D.D.D2.D$.3D5.D4. D3.3D2.3D4.3D3.D.D4.3D15.3D5.D4.D4.3D3.3D4.3D3.D.D4.3D7$72.C$73.2C$
12.C.C57.2C2B$13.2CB57.4B$13.C3B57.4B$14.4B57.4B$14.C4B57.4B$15.C4B4. 2A51.4B$13.3C5B2.B2AB51.4B5.A$14.8B.4B52.4B4.3A$15.8B.2B54.4B6.A$16. 10B55.4B4.2A$17.11B54.4B3.4B$18.13B52.4B4.2B$19.13B3.B48.4B2.4B$19.3B 2A9B.B2A48.10B$18.3BA2BA10B2A48.C9B$17.4BABA10B.B50.C9B$16.6BA10B51.
3C11B$15.4B2.11B51.15B$14.4B5.8B49.2B.14B2A$13.4B4.10B48.2A16B2A$12.
4B5.2A4.3B49.2AB.15B$11.4B7.A4.4B49.B2.13B$10.4B5.3A6.4B50.14B$9.4B6. A7.B2AB51.12B$8.4B16.2A51.9B2A2B$7.4B69.4B.5B2AB$6.4B69.4B.9B$5.4B69. 4B2.9B$4.4B69.4B3.8B.2A$76.4B6.6B2.A$76.3B7.5B3.A.A$76.2B8.6B3.2A$76.
B10.4B$88.2B$87.2B$86.B2AB$87.2A!

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### Re: The Hunting of the Elementary Conduits

Excuse my probable misunderstanding... why is this not an elementary H-->G conduit?

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x = 11, y = 14, rule = LifeHistory
5.2A$5.2A6$9.2A$9.2A2$C$C.C$3C$2.C!  Given sufficient time, you can create the H in the same position SoL : FreeElectronics : DeadlyEnemies : 6a-ite : Rule X3VI what is “sesame oil”? simeks Posts: 369 Joined: March 11th, 2015, 12:03 pm Location: Sweden ### Re: The Hunting of the Elementary Conduits Rhombic wrote:Excuse my probable misunderstanding... why is this not an elementary H-->G conduit? It is, but there are so many of the same kind that allows the FNG (first natural glider) to escape and then just kills off the rest of the reaction. It would make sense to have the most useful ones in the collection, and that one with the two blocks, which has been known for a long time, should perhaps be listed. Anyway, here are a few of the smallest H-to-FNG: Code: Select all x = 306, y = 88, rule = LifeHistory 157.C$156.C.C139.2C$101.2C53.C.C87.2C50.2C$58.C42.C8.C44.2C.3C38.C46.
2C$56.3C43.3C3.3C50.C36.C.C95.6C$4.2C49.C48.C2.C47.2C.3C38.C96.C2.C2.
C$4.2C49.2C50.2C46.2C.C142.2C2$59.2C$60.C45.2C46.2C46.2C46.2C46.2C$
58.C4.C42.2C46.2C46.2C46.2C46.2C$58.6C$.A8.2C37.A47.A47.A47.A47.A47.A
$.A.A6.C.C36.A.A8.2C35.A.A45.A.A45.A.A45.A.A45.A.A$.3A8.C36.3A9.C35.
3A45.3A45.3A45.3A45.3A$3.A8.2C37.A9.C.C35.A47.A47.A47.A47.A$62.2C53$107.2C$107.C$105.C.C$101.2C2.2C$101.2C97.2C$155.2C43.C$C154.C3.2C37.C .C45.2C$3C98.2C54.C2.C36.C.C46.C.C$3.C97.2C53.4C33.2C3.C48.C7.2C$2.2C
189.2C60.C$156.2C95.C.C48.C$60.C94.C2.C94.2C48.C.C$10.2C47.C.C94.2C.C .2C141.2C$10.2C47.C.C97.C.2C$60.C98.C144.2C$.A47.A47.A47.A11.C.C33.A
47.A47.A13.C.C$.A.A45.A.A45.A.A45.A.A9.2C34.A.A45.A.A45.A.A12.C$.3A
45.3A45.3A45.3A45.3A45.3A45.3A$3.A47.A47.A47.A47.A47.A47.A!  gmc_nxtman Posts: 1149 Joined: May 26th, 2015, 7:20 pm ### Re: The Hunting of the Elementary Conduits H-to-G9: Code: Select all x = 37, y = 31, rule = LifeHistory 31.A$29.3A$15.2A11.A$16.A11.2A$16.A.AB2.2B.5B$17.2AB.7B$19.10B$19.11B
$19.11B$19.12B2.2A$16.15B.A2.A$15.18B3A$15.16B.B$15.17BAB2A$15.15B.B 2A2.A$13.18B.B2.2A$11.19B$11.2BC15B$10.3BCBC12B$11.2B3C12B$10.5BC13B$
9.13B.6B$8.4B5.4B.7B$7.4B5.4B3.5B.2B2.2A$6.4B5.4B5.4B2ABA2.A$5.4B5.4B
9.ABAB3A$4.4B5.4B10.A.A$3.4B5.4B9.3A.5A$2.4B5.4B9.A3.A4.A$.4B5.4B10.
2A2.A.A$4B5.4B16.2A!  EDIT: I.... don't even know anymore. Code: Select all x = 26, y = 30, rule = LifeHistory 7.2A$8.A$8.A.A$9.2A3$2A$.A$.A.A18.2A$2.2A17.A2.A$22.3A2$21.A.2A$21.2A 2.A$24.2A2$2.C$2.C.C$2.3C$4.C3$22.2A$17.2A.A2.A$16.A.A.3A$16.A.A$14. 3A.5A$13.A3.A4.A$13.2A2.A.A$18.2A!


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### Re: The Hunting of the Elementary Conduits

gmc_nxtman wrote:H-to-G9...
Reposted to the H-to-G / H-to-Gn collection thread. Good finds! As long as these kinds of things keep getting added to those collections, the collections will (very gradually) become more and more useful.

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### Re: The Hunting of the Elementary Conduits

Found a new unusually-dependent conduit, based on the shillelagh+bun catalysis recently posted:

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x = 26, y = 39, rule = LifeHistory
6.2A$7.A$7.A.A$8.2A7$4.2A7.D$4.2A6.3D$14.D4$2A$.A$.A.A18.2A$2.2A17.A
2.A$22.3A2$21.A.2A$21.2A2.A$24.2A2$2.C$2.C.C$2.3C$4.C14.2A$19.2A5$16.
2A$16.A$17.3A$19.A!  Any conduit with that particular start can follow this one. (Now, which well-known business can this be named after?) --- Also, a variant of a known conduit that produces an LWSS but consumes a block on the edge: Code: Select all x = 24, y = 22, rule = LifeHistory 2A12.D$.A11.3D$.A.A9.D$2.2A6$22.2A$2.C19.2A$2.C.C$2.3C$4.C$19.2A$19. 2A5$13.2C$13.2C!  I Like My Heisenburps! (and others) BlinkerSpawn Posts: 1964 Joined: November 8th, 2014, 8:48 pm Location: Getting a snacker from R-Bee's ### Re: The Hunting of the Elementary Conduits Extrementhusiast wrote:Also, a variant of a known conduit that produces an LWSS but consumes a block on the edge: Code: Select all x = 24, y = 22, rule = LifeHistory 2A12.D$.A11.3D$.A.A9.D$2.2A6$22.2A$2.C19.2A$2.C.C$2.3C$4.C$19.2A$19. 2A5$13.2C$13.2C!  What remains to be seen is whether there's a blockmaker that can deal with potential residual hives... LifeWiki: Like Wikipedia but with more spaceships. [citation needed] Scorbie Posts: 1445 Joined: December 7th, 2013, 1:05 am ### Re: The Hunting of the Elementary Conduits Extrementhusiast wrote:Also, a variant of a known conduit that produces an LWSS but consumes a block on the edge: Code: Select all x = 24, y = 22, rule = LifeHistory 2A12.D$.A11.3D$.A.A9.D$2.2A6$22.2A$2.C19.2A$2.C.C$2.3C$4.C$19.2A$19. 2A5$13.2C$13.2C!  Isn't it part of the H-LWSS in the collection? Best wishes to you, Scorbie Kazyan Posts: 958 Joined: February 6th, 2014, 11:02 pm ### Re: The Hunting of the Elementary Conduits Scorbie wrote:Isn't it part of the H-LWSS in the collection? It is, and after not realizing that until I went to check, I have a new appreciation for how all the lanes were somehow cleared for the LWSS's exit. Tanner Jacobi Coldlander, a novel, available in paperback and as an ebook. gmc_nxtman Posts: 1149 Joined: May 26th, 2015, 7:20 pm ### Re: The Hunting of the Elementary Conduits Alternate stabilization for the recent H-to-G9: Code: Select all x = 24, y = 30, rule = LifeHistory 16.2A$16.A$17.A$14.4A$14.A$17.3A$2A15.A2.A$.A17.A.A$.A.A16.A$2.2A7$2. C$2.C.C$2.3C$4.C3$22.2A$17.2A.A2.A$16.A.A.3A$16.A.A$14.3A.5A$13.A3.A
4.A$13.2A2.A.A$18.2A!

Unfortunately, it doesn't allow for the extra G1 glider output.

EDIT: And an alternate stabilization of SE23T-6:

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x = 24, y = 28, rule = LifeHistory
20.A$18.3A$17.A$17.2A$2A$.A$.A.A$2.2A7$2.C$2.C.C$2.3C$4.C3$22.2A$17. 2A.A2.A$16.A.A.3A$16.A.A$14.3A.5A$13.A3.A4.A$13.2A2.A.A$18.2A!  A for awesome Posts: 2037 Joined: September 13th, 2014, 5:36 pm Location: 0x-1 Contact: ### Re: The Hunting of the Elementary Conduits More compact, although non-Spartan, stabilization of the PF(x)35W: Code: Select all x = 78, y = 30, rule = LifeHistory 56.B$55.3D$55.BDB$54.3D2B$54.5B$53.6B$53.6B$54.5B$54.6B$53.6B$53.7B$
54.6B$54.6B$53.3B2AB$13.B7.2A28.5B2A2B3.B7.2A$12.3B6.A3.2A24.9B2.3B6.
A3.2A$12.3B8.A2.A21.B.9B3.3B8.A2.A$12.3B7.3A22.2A11B2.3B7.3A$5.2D2.B. 4B4.2A26.2A11B.4B4.2A$4.DBD9B2.BA.2A25.18B2.BA.2A$3.2D12B2.3B.A24.19B 2.3B.A$4.18B.A26.22B.A$3.20B.2A22.25B.2A$3.9B3C8B3.A21.2AB2.9B3C8B3.A
$4.8BCBC8B3.A22.A4.8BCBC8B3.A$2.2AB.6BCBC6B.B2A.2A18.3A3.2AB.6BCBC6B.
B2A.2A$.A.AB.6B.8B.BA.A20.A4.A.AB.6B.8B.BA.A$.A5.5B.7B5.A25.A5.5B.7B
5.A$2A7.2B3.5B6.2A23.2A7.2B3.5B6.2A$16.2B48.2B!

x₁=ηx
V ⃰_η=c²√(Λη)
K=(Λu²)/2
Pₐ=1−1/(∫^∞_t₀(p(t)ˡ⁽ᵗ⁾)dt)

$$x_1=\eta x$$
$$V^*_\eta=c^2\sqrt{\Lambda\eta}$$
$$K=\frac{\Lambda u^2}2$$
$$P_a=1-\frac1{\int^\infty_{t_0}p(t)^{l(t)}dt}$$

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### Re: The Hunting of the Elementary Conduits

I like this one, it allows to use H-to-P-to-W-to-H with repeat time under 74 (syringe standard), I think there was no way to do so with P or W before.

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x = 81, y = 86, rule = LifeHistory
47.4B$46.4B$45.A3B$44.B2AB$43.BABA$16.A25.4B$16.3A22.4B$19.A20.4B$18.
2A19.4B$18.5B15.4B$20.4B13.4B$19.5B10.6B19.A$17.B.6B10.4B.3B.B12.3A$16.9B3.7BABA8B9.BA$12.B.3B2A6B2.4BCBA9B2A2B5.B2.B2A14.2A$11.2A3BABA6B 2.4BC2D9B2A2B3.8B13.B2AB$11.2A3B2A8B.4BCBC3BA9B.10B14.2B$12.B.2BA16BD 2ABA20B15.2B3.B$15.2BA19B2.2B.15B15.4B.B2A$14.3B2A15B8.17B11.8B2A$12.
BA18B11.19B2.2B2.6B2AB.B$12.2A19B10.14BAD15B2A$13.A19B11.7B.4BCBCA16B
$11.ABA9BABA7B10.12BACDC21B$9.3A.ABA6B3AB.5B2A8.14BC23B$8.A5.A6BA3B5. 2BA.A8.8B2.26B2A$8.2A6.4B2AB2AB8.A8.6B11.2B.B.14B2A$17.6B2A2B7.2A8.5B 10.3B5.11B.B$16.3B2A3BA2B17.4B7.2A.2BA7.10B$16.BA5BA3B18.3B7.A.2BA.A 3.12B$8.2A7.BABA2BA3B6.2A8.4B9.A2.B2A2.14B$9.A5.3BA9B5.A9.2A12.A6.13B$4.A4.A.AB.15B.BA.A10.A10.A.5A2.13B$4.3A3.2AB.5BADBC6B.B2A.2A5.3A11. 2A4.A2.B3D7B$7.A4.8B3C8B3.A6.C16.3A3.2BD4B.3B$6.2AB2.10BC9B3.A20.2A.A 5.2B3D2B$6.25B.2A21.A.A6.B3A2B$8.22B.A31.2BA2BAB$6.5B2D12B2.3B.A30.5B
2AB$6.6BDBD9B2.BA.2A30.8B$5.2A6B2D3B.4B4.2A22.2A8.2BA2BA2B$5.2A11B2. 3B7.3A18.A.A.2A2.2AB2.2A4B$6.B.9B3.3B8.A2.A18.A.A2.A.AB.4B2AB$9.9B2. 3B6.A3.2A17.2A.A.2A4.3B3A$9.5B2A2B3.B7.2A24.A2.A4.4BAB$11.2BABAB7.2A 29.2A7.A2BA2B$12.6B4.A2.A24.2A7.B3.2B2A5B$12.2BA3B4.2A.A.2A17.2A3.A6. 3B2.9B$11.BA2BA2B.BA.A2.A.A18.A2.A8.3B3.9B.B$11.2B4A2.B2A2.2A.A.A18. 3A7.3B2.11B2A$12.3B2A3B8.2A22.2A4.4B.3B2D6B2A$12.BA6B30.2A.AB2.9BDBD 6B$11.B2A5B30.A.3B2.12B2D5B$11.BA2BA2B31.A.22B$11.2B3AB6.A.A21.2A.25B
$10.2B2DC2B5.A.2A20.A3.9BD10B2.B2A$6.3B.4BD2B3.3A16.C6.A3.8B3C8B4.A$6.7B3DB2.A4.2A11.3A5.2A.2AB.6BCBDA5B.B2A3.3A$4.13B2.5A.A10.A10.A.AB.
9BA5B.BA.A4.A$4.13B6.A12.2A9.A5.13B5.A$3.14B2.2AB2.A9.4B8.2A6.3B2A2BA
BA7.2A$4.12B3.A.A2B.A7.3B18.3B4A2BAB$3.10B7.A2B.2A7.4B17.5B2ABA2B$.B. 11B5.3B10.5B8.2A7.2B2A6B$2A14B.B.2B11.6B8.A8.B2AB3A3B6.2A$2A26B2.8B8. A.A2B5.3BA6BA5.A$.22BACA13B8.2A5B.B3A6BABA.3A$.20BACDCA12B10.7BA9BABA BA$5.16BACBCA3B.7B11.7BA11BA$5.2A15BCA14B10.17BABAB$2.B.B2A6B2.2B2.
19B11.8B2A4BA3BAB$.2A8B11.17B8.15BA3BA$.2AB.4B15.15B.2B2.19BA2B$2.B3. 2B15.21BABAD16BA2B.B$7.2B14.10B.10BABADAD4B.8B2A3B2A$6.B2AB13.8B3.2B 2A9B2DCA3B2.6BA5B2A$7.2A14.2AB2.B5.2B2A10BAD4B2.7BA3B.B$24.AB9.18B3. 6BA2B$21.3A12.B.3B.4B10.6B.B$21.A19.6B10.5B$40.4B13.4B$40.2A16.5B$41.
A19.2A$38.3A20.A$38.A23.3A$64.A!  BlinkerSpawn Posts: 1964 Joined: November 8th, 2014, 8:48 pm Location: Getting a snacker from R-Bee's ### Re: The Hunting of the Elementary Conduits Simpler, smaller catalyst (EDIT: Another cell smaller and compatible with the variant eater1): Code: Select all x = 31, y = 20, rule = LifeHistory 7.6B3.2A2.2A$7.7B2.A.A2.A2.A$8.6B4.2A.A.A.A$8.6B4.A2.A2.A$7.3B2AB7.2A$5.5B2A2B3.B10.A$5.9B2.3B8.A.A$2.B.9B3.3B8.A.A$.2A11B2.3B7.2A.2A$.2A
11B.4B4.2A3.A$2.18B2.BA.2A.A$2.19B2.3B.A$4.22B.A.A$2.25B.2A$2.2AB2.9B 3C8B$3.A4.8BCBC8B$3A3.2AB.6BCBC6B.B2A$A4.A.AB.6B.8B.BA.A$5.A5.5B.7B5. A$4.2A7.2B3.5B6.2A!

Allots a tad more space on the right if it's ever needed:

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x = 31, y = 20, rule = LifeHistory
7.6B3.2A2.2A$7.7B2.A.A2.A2.A$8.6B4.2A.A.A.A$8.6B4.A2.A2.2A$7.3B2AB7.
2A$5.5B2A2B3.B6.2A$5.9B2.3B4.A2.A$2.B.9B3.3B4.2A.A$.2A11B2.3B7.2A$.2A 11B.4B4.2A3.A$2.18B2.BA.2A.A$2.19B2.3B.A$4.22B.A.A$2.25B.2A$2.2AB2.9B
3C8B$3.A4.8BCBC8B$3A3.2AB.6BCBC6B.B2A$A4.A.AB.6B.8B.BA.A$5.A5.5B.7B5.
A$4.2A7.2B3.5B6.2A!  Last edited by BlinkerSpawn on November 11th, 2017, 5:33 pm, edited 2 times in total. LifeWiki: Like Wikipedia but with more spaceships. [citation needed] Jormungant Posts: 177 Joined: May 27th, 2016, 1:01 am ### Re: The Hunting of the Elementary Conduits Feels like that the W-to-H is the only thing that can be used afterward, so getting rid of that glider inbound is kind of mandatory, I made it more compact using your improvement. Code: Select all x = 32, y = 20, rule = LifeHistory 8.6B3.2A2.2A$8.7B2.A.A2.A$9.6B4.2A.A.2A$9.6B4.A2.A.A$8.3B2AB7.2A2.A$
6.5B2A2B3.B4.2A3.2A$6.9B2.3B3.A4.A$3.B.9B3.3B4.3A.A$2.2A11B2.3B7.2A. 2A$2.2A11B.4B4.2A3.A.A$3.18B2.BA.2A.A$3.19B2.3B.A.A$5.22B.A.A$3.15BA
9B.A$3.2AB2.9BCDC8B$4.A4.7BACBCA7B$.3A3.2AB.6BDBD6B.B2A$.A4.A.AB.6B.
8B.BA.A$6.A5.5B.7B5.A$5.2A7.2B3.5B6.2A!

That being said, I should mention that I was wrong for the repeat time, there is one with the same that is already known (but it is not as compact):

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x = 40, y = 45, rule = LifeHistory
3$8.2A$9.A6.2A$9.A.AB.2B2AB$10.2AB.4B$6.A4.8B$6.3A3.9B$9.A2.9B$8.2A.
3BD7B2.2B2.3B$8.6B2D15BDB$10.6BD14BDBD$8.7B2D3B2A9B3DB$7.13B2A11BD$7. 27B$6.12B.2B.3B.B.2B$6.11B11.3B$7.14B8.A2B.2A$9.3C11B5.A.A2B.A$10.BC
11B4.A.AB2.A$8.B3C11B5.A3.A$6.15B.B2A4.4A.A$5.14B3.BA.A7.A.A$5.13B7.A
3.2A2.A.A$5.12B8.2A2.2A3.A$6.10B$8.7B$8.8B$9.8B$11.5B2A$13.3B.A$14.2B
.A.2A$12.A2.A.A2.A$12.4A.2A$16.A$14.A.A$14.2A!  However, what is true is that a h-to-h in the collection can have its repeat time improved 75->68 Code: Select all x = 117, y = 86, rule = LifeHistory 68.A.A$68.2A.A$71.3A$68.2A4.A$68.A.5A$70.A21.A$52.2A15.A2.B2A2.2B13. 3A$40.2A9.A.A14.A.2BA.A3.B16.A14.A$40.A2.2A4.3A.A.AB11.2A.2BA20.2A12. 3A$37.A3.2A2.A2.A5.2AB.2A12.3B7.B.7B3.3B.2B7.A$37.4A2.2A.B.2A6.2B2AB 12.4B.13B5.5B6.2A$40.A.A2.5B6.4B6.3B2A21BD9B2.5B$39.A2.A5B8.6B3.3BAC 2A19BD15B$34.A.A2.A.A.7B7.6B2.2B2ACDC18B2D14B2A$34.2A.A.A.2A8B6.7B.3B ACADA14B2A2B2D13B2A$37.2A3.B.8B4.13B2AC15B2A3BD12B.B$32.5A7.9B2.2B2A 11B2A3B2.2B3.23B$32.A3.A6.29B11.10B2.9B$34.A7.14B2ABA10B16.6B3.8B$33.
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### Re: The Hunting of the Elementary Conduits

Jormungant wrote:Feels like that the W-to-H is the only thing that can be used afterward, so getting rid of that glider inbound is kind of mandatory, I made it more compact using your improvement.
Here are a few other ways of dealing with that glider. First, with a regular eater5 or sidesnagger -- the sidesnagger can be adjusted SE by up to three cells, and an eater5 variant will fit as far down as 5 cells SEward, but it's nice to be able to get them out of the way to the NW. Maybe they can go a cell or two farther NW with the right weld:

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x = 61, y = 86, rule = LifeHistory
3.4B$4.4B$5.4B$6.4B$7.4B$8.4B17.A9.2A.2A$9.4B16.3A4.2A2.A.A$10.4B7.2A 9.A2.A2.2A3.A$11.4B5.B2AB7.2A3.2A2.3A$12.4B5.3B7.5B2.A.A$13.4B3.B.B
10.5BA$14.4B.6B6.7B.A4.2A$15.10B5.8B2A5.A$7.2A7.12B.8B.B6.A.AB$8.A8.
20B9.A.AB.B$8.A.AB6.20B9.A3B2A$9.2AB.3B2.21B7.3B.B2A$11.21B3D8B3.2B3. B$11.23BD9B.4B$12.20B3D8B3.3B$11.29B7.4B$9.30B9.B3D$7.19B3.12B.2B.3B.
D3B$7.2BC15B5.20BD9B$6.3BCBC4B.7B6.13B2A11BD4B$7.2B3C4B2.6B7.7B2D3B2A 9B3D4B$6.5BC4B3.6B8.6BD14BDBD4B$5.10B6.4B6.6B2D15BD6B$4.4B12.B2A2B6.
2A.3BD7B2.2B2.10B$4.3B14.2A.B2A5.A2.9B9.8B$2.4B18.BA.A.3A3.9B12.5B$2. 2A23.A.A4.8B15.4B$3.A23.2A4.2AB.4B$3A29.A.AB.2B2AB$A31.A6.2A$31.2A16$
4.4B$5.4B$6.4B$7.4B$8.4B17.A9.2A.2A$9.4B16.3A4.2A2.A.A$10.4B7.2A9.A2.
A2.2A3.A$11.4B5.B2AB7.2A3.2A2.3A$12.4B5.3B7.5B2.A.A8.2A$13.4B3.B.B10. 5BA9.B2AB$14.4B.6B6.7B.A3.2A4.2B$15.10B5.8B2A3.A.A4.2B$7.2A7.12B.8B.B
5.AB2.5B.B$8.A8.20B8.3B2A2B.B2A$8.A.AB6.20B7.2BA2BA3B2A$9.2AB.3B2.21B 5.4BABAB.2B$11.21B3D8B2.4BA2B$11.23BD9B4.3B$12.20B3D8B5.2B$11.29B7.4B$9.30B9.B3D$7.19B3.12B.2B.3B.D3B$7.2BC15B5.20BD9B$6.3BCBC4B.7B6.13B2A 11BD4B$7.2B3C4B2.6B7.7B2D3B2A9B3D4B$6.5BC4B3.6B8.6BD14BDBD4B$5.10B6.
4B6.6B2D15BD6B$4.4B12.B2A2B6.2A.3BD7B2.2B2.10B$4.3B14.2A.B2A5.A2.9B9.
8B$2.4B18.BA.A.3A3.9B12.5B$2.2A23.A.A4.8B15.4B$3.A23.2A4.2AB.4B$3A29.
A.AB.2B2AB$A31.A6.2A$31.2A!
If a dependent conduit follows the new improved Fx176 -- we have quite a few dependent conduits now, not just the old F166 or Lx200 choices -- then the dependent conduit's "first unnatural glider" can actually escape.

That wasn't true for the original Fx176, or A for awesome's original improvement. It can really make the Fx176 a lot more useful to have another optional signal output from the next conduit -- it was always a big annoyance not being able to get that glider out. So that's probably another new H-to-2G worth adding to the toolkit.

There's even enough room to fit a Snark in after an Lx200 turn, which might also come in handy:

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x = 79, y = 73, rule = LifeHistory
3.4B17.A9.2A3.4B$4.4B16.3A4.2A2.A4.4B30.A$5.4B7.2A9.A2.A2.2A6.4B27.3A
$6.4B5.B2AB7.2A3.2A2.3A4.4B25.A$7.4B5.3B7.5B2.A.A2.A4.4B14.2A8.2A$8. 4B3.B.B10.5BA3.2A5.4B14.A5.5B$9.4B.6B6.7B.A10.4B13.A.AB.4B$10.10B5.8B 2A11.4B13.2AB.6B4.B$2.2A7.12B.8B.B13.4B14.10B.B2A$3.A8.20B16.4B13.12B 2A$3.A.AB6.20B16.4B12.11B.B$4.2AB.3B2.21B16.4B2.4B3.13B$6.21B3D8B13.
4B.5B2.12B.2B$6.23BD9B13.25B2A$7.20B3D8B15.24B2A$6.29B19.20B.B.B$4.
30B12.B5.B2.20B$2.19B3.12B.2B.3B.B.2B2.26B$2.2BC15B5.52B$.3BCBC4B.7B 6.13B2A11BDB2A21B$2.2B3C4B2.6B7.7B2D3B2A9B3DB2A21B$.5BC4B3.6B8.6BD14B DBD23B3.B$10B6.4B6.6B2D15BD25B2.2B$3B12.B2A2B6.2A.3BD7B2.2B2.29B.3B$
2B14.2A.B2A5.A2.9B9.4B2.7B.17B$B18.BA.A.3A3.9B15.6B2.16B$22.A.A4.8B
19.3B3.10B.4B$22.2A4.2AB.4B15.2A4.B4.14B$27.A.AB.2B2AB13.A.A10.12B$27.A6.2A8.2A4.A12.11B$26.2A14.A2.A2.2A.4A8.11B$42.2A.A.A.A.A2.A9.9B$
45.A.ABABAB6.A4.9B$45.A.AB2AB6.A.A3.9B$46.AB.2B7.A.A3.9B$49.3B5.2A.A. A9B$49.4B6.A.2A2.6B$47.3B2AB6.A5.6B$47.3B2AB3.BA.A5.D2B2D2B$45.10B.B 2A6.B3D4B2.2A$44.13B6.4BD7BA.A$43.14B6.11B3.A$42.15B6.5B2A4B3.2A$41. 4B2.8B8.5B2A3B$40.4B5.6B8.10B$39.4B4.9B7.9B$39.3B5.2A4.4B6.9B$39.2B7. A5.4B6.8B$39.B5.3A7.4B4.8B$45.A10.4B4.6B$57.4B3.6B$58.4B2.6B$59.4B.7B
$60.4B.6B$61.9B$62.8B$63.8B$64.7B$65.6B$65.2B3D2B$65.2BD4B$65.B3D4B. 3B$65.13B$65.14B$65.14B$66.13B$66.13B$65.14B$66.12B$68.3B2C3B$68.2BC
2BCB$70.B2C! Kazyan Posts: 958 Joined: February 6th, 2014, 11:02 pm ### Re: The Hunting of the Elementary Conduits I think this is a new R-to-G (shown here with two variants), but my on-desktop reference files are getting a little dated: Code: Select all x = 70, y = 37, rule = LifeHistory 10.2A$9.A2.A$8.A.3A$8.A4.2A38.A.A$6.3A.2A3.A32.2A2.A.2A$5.A4.A.3A33.A
3.A$6.3A.A.A36.3A.3A$8.A.AB39.A.A2.A$9.2AB40.3B2AB$10.3B41.3B$10.4B9. 2A30.4B9.2A$8.7B.2B5.A29.7B.2B5.A$8.5B2.3B2.BA.A29.5B2.3B2.BA.A$8.2BC
8B.B2A30.2BC8B.B2A$8.2B2C9B32.2B2C9B$8.B2C10B32.B2C10B$8.13B32.13B$9.
11B34.11B$10.10B.BA32.10B.BA$12.5BD3BA.A33.5BD3BA.A$14.2BD2B.2BA36.2B D2B.2BA$15.B3D2.B38.B3D2.B$14.4B41.4B$13.4B41.4B$12.4B41.4B$11.4B41.
4B$10.4B41.4B$9.4B41.4B$8.4B41.4B$7.4B41.4B$6.4B41.4B$5.4B41.4B$4.4B 41.4B$3.4B41.4B$2.4B41.4B$.4B41.4B$4B41.4B! Tanner Jacobi Coldlander, a novel, available in paperback and as an ebook. dvgrn Moderator Posts: 6722 Joined: May 17th, 2009, 11:00 pm Location: Madison, WI Contact: ### Re: The Hunting of the Elementary Conduits Kazyan wrote:I think this is a new R-to-G (shown here with two variants), but my on-desktop reference files are getting a little dated... I'm not finding it offhand, but also am not finding a lot of conduits that it will usefully connect to. It works with HLx111R to make an H-to-G that might come in handy sometime, but I'm not sure how: Code: Select all #C SW-22T201 x = 61, y = 66, rule = LifeHistory 10.3D2.D3.D8.3D3.3D2.5D2.3D3.3D4.D$9.D3.D.D3.D7.D3.D.D3.D3.D3.D3.D.D
3.D2.2D$9.D5.D3.D11.D5.D3.D7.D.D2.2D3.D$10.3D2.D.D.D.5D4.D5.D4.D6.D2.
D.D.D3.D$13.D.D.D.D9.D5.D5.D5.D3.2D2.D3.D$9.D3.D.2D.2D8.D5.D6.D4.D4.D
3.D3.D$10.3D2.D3.D7.5D.5D3.D3.5D2.3D3.3D12$38.A$29.A6.3A$28.A.A4.A$27.2BAB4.2A$28.2B2.5B$29.6B$27.9B$26.12B$25.13B$24.13B7.A$23.4B.8B.B
5.A.A$22.4B3.7B.2B4.A.A$21.4B4.11B2.2A2.2A$20.4B6.12B2.A.A.A$19.4B7.
10B5A.A.A$18.4B9.7B2.A6.A$17.4B9.B.6B3.2A.3A$16.4B9.9B4.A.A$15.4B8.
11B4.A.A$14.4B9.10B6.A$13.4B9.12B$12.4B9.14B$11.4B10.17B$10.4B12.15B 2A$9.4B13.15B2A$8.4B13.17B$7.4B11.16B$6.4B11.16B$5.4B12.16B$4.4B12. 16B$3.4B12.20B$2.4B13.20B$.4B15.20B$4B15.22B$3B14.24B$2B13.25B$B14.2B
C13B.10B$14.3BCBC4B.7B2.2B4.2A$15.2B3C4B2.3B.B4.B4.A$14.5BC4B4.2B2A3. 2A4.3A$13.10B4.BA2.A4.A6.A$12.4B12.3A5.A.A$12.3B22.2A$10.4B14.3A$10.
2A16.A2.A$11.A18.2A$8.3A$8.A! SW-22 is such a backwards lane that the glider is usually going to dive right into the middle of the previous conduit and make a mess of the catalysts, though maybe there are a few interesting exceptions somewhere. There isn't enough room to allow a Snark to reflect the output glider, so a transparent lane would have be found -- or possibly a dirty conduit that happens to be cleanable with this particular glider, but the odds seem fairly low. The hypothetical dirty conduit would have to make something interesting, since otherwise the whole conglomeration will just be a big slow inefficient Herschel eater. So... what else am I missing, that this R-to-G might usefully connect to? EDIT: Added in a sample pattern from chris_c's example below -- kind of a steampunk mixture of old and new tech, which all adds up to not really useful and not worth making a new post about: Code: Select all x = 229, y = 229, rule = LifeHistory 115.2A2.A$114.A.4A$114.A$112.2A.7A$110.A2.A.A6.A$110.2A3.A.2A2.2A$114.2A.2A4$116.2A$116.2A8.2A$126.A$124.A.A$124.2A7$114.2A$115.A$112. 3A$112.A23$61.A$61.3A6.A18.2A6.2A$64.A4.A.A17.A.A5.2A$63.2A5.A19.2A$167.2A$81.2A83.A2.A$72.D8.2A82.A.3A$70.D.D23.A68.A4.2A$71.2D22.A.A65. 3A.2A3.A$55.A39.A2.A63.A4.A.3A$54.A.A39.2A65.3A.A.A$54.A.A108.A.A$52. 2A2.2A108.2A$51.A.A.A$51.A.A.5A45.2A73.2A$52.A6.A45.A.A72.A$53.3A.2A 48.A70.A.A$55.A.A49.2A58.D10.2A$55.A.A109.2D$56.A109.2D$101.2A$101.A. A$71.2A30.A75.A$71.2A30.2A69.D3.A.A$158.2A13.D5.A$85.3D70.2A13.3D$86. D12.2A$84.3D12.2A$75.2A57.2A16.2A$75.2A58.A16.2A$134.A$134.2A$125.2A$ 125.A.A$126.A48.2A$99.2A74.2A$98.A2.A$99.2A32.D3.2A15.C$106.2A25.2D2. 2A15.C.C$106.2A13.2D11.2D18.3C$122.2D10.D21.C$122.D10.D$179.2A$84.2A 92.A.A$84.2A92.2A2$75.2A.A7.D6.2A39.2A$75.A.2A6.3D5.2A39.2A$84.2D2.D 8.2A31.A41.2A$96.A.A31.3A38.A2.A$96.A36.A37.A.A5.2A$95.2A35.2A11.A26. A6.2A$108.2A34.A.A7.2A$108.2A34.A.A7.2A$11.A68.A64.A14.2A$11.3A65.A.A 79.A$14.A64.2A29.2A46.3A$13.2A95.2A46.A$87.D78.2A$4.2A80.3D53.2A23.A$ 3.A.A80.D55.2A20.3A$3.A124.2A34.A$2A.A124.2A$.A.A.2A117.2A97.2A$.A.A. 2A3.2A112.2A97.A$2A.A6.2A192.2A19.A$A2.4A14.2A182.A18.2A$.2A3.A14.A.A 181.A.A14.A3.2A$3.2A18.A182.2A14.4A2.A$3.A19.2A192.2A6.A.2A$5.A97.2A 112.2A3.2A.A.A$4.2A97.2A117.2A.A.A$99.2A124.A.2A$64.A34.2A124.A$62.3A 20.2A55.D80.A.A$61.A23.2A53.3D80.2A$61.2A78.D$70.A46.2A95.2A$68.3A46. 2A29.2A64.A$67.A79.A.A65.3A$67.2A14.A64.A68.A$73.2A7.A.A34.2A$73.2A7. A.A34.2A$48.2A6.A26.A11.2A35.2A$48.2A5.A.A37.A36.A$54.A2.A38.3A31.A.A$55.2A41.A31.2A8.D2.2D$93.2A39.2A5.3D6.2A.A$93.2A39.2A6.D7.A.2A2$49. 2A92.2A$48.A.A92.2A$48.2A$95.D10.D$72.D21.D10.2D$72.3D18.2D11.2D13.2A $72.D.D15.2A2.2D25.2A$74.D15.2A3.D32.2A$127.A2.A$52.2A74.2A$52.2A48.A$101.A.A$102.2A$93.2A$94.A$75.2A16.A58.2A$75.2A16.2A57.2A$128.2A12.3D $128.2A12.D$53.3D13.2A70.3D$49.A5.D13.2A$48.A.A3.D69.2A30.2A$49.A75.A 30.2A$125.A.A$126.2A$61.2D109.A$60.2D109.A.A$49.2A10.D58.2A49.A.A$48. A.A70.A48.2A.3A$48.A72.A.A38.D6.A6.A$47.2A73.2A38.3D4.5A.A.A$163.D9.A .A.A$61.2A108.2A2.2A$61.A.A108.A.A$59.A.A.3A65.2A39.A.A$57.3A.A4.A63. A2.A39.A$56.A3.2A.3A65.A.A22.2D$57.2A4.A68.A23.D.D$59.3A.A82.2A8.D$ 59.A2.A83.2A$60.2A$137.2A19.A5.2A$130.2A5.A.A17.A.A4.A$130.2A6.2A18.A 6.3A$167.A23$116.A$114.3A$113.A$113.2A7$103.2A$102.A.A5.2A$102.A7.2A$101.2A5$110.2A.2A$106.2A2.2A.A3.2A$106.A6.A.A2.A$107.7A.2A$114.A$109. 4A.A$109.A2.2A! #C [[ AUTOSTART STEP 9 THUMBNAIL THUMBSIZE 2 ZOOM 2 ]]

chris_c
Posts: 953
Joined: June 28th, 2014, 7:15 am

### Re: The Hunting of the Elementary Conduits

dvgrn wrote: So... what else am I missing, that this R-to-G might usefully connect to?
Well there's this one:

Code: Select all

x = 34, y = 58, rule = LifeHistory
18.2A$17.A2.A$16.A.3A$16.A4.2A$14.3A.2A3.A$13.A4.A.3A$7.4B3.3A.A.A$8. 4B4.A.AB$9.4B4.2AB$10.4B4.3B$11.4B3.4B9.2A$12.11B.2B5.A$13.8B2.3B2.BA
.A$14.4BD8B.B2A$15.3B2D9B$16.B2D10B$15.14B$15.13B$15.13B.BA$15.10BD3B A.A$9.2A4.9BD2B.2BA$8.B2AB2.10B3D2.B$8.4B.13B$4.2B.20B$3.2A22B$3.2A 22B$4.B.21B$7.19B$6.19B$6.19B.B4.3C$6.20B2A3.C$5.19B.B2A4.C$3.20B3.B$3.2BC15B$2.3BCBC14B$3.2B3C13B$2.5BC14B$.24B$4B4.18B4.2A$10.17B.BA.A$
10.19B2A$11.19B$10.20B$10.20B$10.13B2A4B$10.12BA2BA5B$11.11BABA5B2A$12.11BA6B2A$13.18B$11.20B$11.2A.9B2.2B$12.A4.6B$9.3A7.3B$9.A7.5B$17.
2A$18.A$15.3A\$15.A!

If anyone ever needs a transparent H->G with a G6 output then I guess they are in luck.

calcyman
Posts: 2198
Joined: June 1st, 2009, 4:32 pm

### Re: The Hunting of the Elementary Conduits

Updated with the last year's new elementary conduits (and semi-cenarks, which I think are elementary enough to be included as G0-to-Gs rather than as a G0-to-C).
conduits.rle.gz
November 2017 update of conduits