## The Hunting of the Elementary Conduits

For discussion of specific patterns or specific families of patterns, both newly-discovered and well-known.
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### Re: The Hunting of the Elementary Conduits

C28 wrote:
August 23rd, 2022, 6:03 pm
U to G

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``````x = 35, y = 35, rule = B3/S23
22b2o\$22b2o5\$2o18b3o\$bo18b3o\$bobo15bobo\$2b2o15b2o6\$31b2o\$31b2o4\$31b2o
\$8b2o22bo\$7bobo21bo\$7bo24b3o\$6b2o26bo3\$17b2o\$11b2o3bobo\$11bo2bo2bo\$12b
5o2\$14bo\$13bobo\$14bo!``````
The U is almost entirely surrounded by the catalysts you've placed. With that block immediately to the north, it just doesn't seem like there's any plausible way for a U signal to sneak in from anywhere else.

So it seems to me that this amounts to a "Garden of Eden" type converter, where it doesn't really matter what the starting signal is because there's no hope of really using it as a conduit.

Not to be a wet blanket, but it seems like it would be good to reserve this thread for conduits that have some hope of connecting to other conduits.

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### Re: The Hunting of the Elementary Conduits

U to R with transparent block

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``````x = 50, y = 25, rule = B3/S23
21b2o\$17bobo2bo\$15b3ob2o\$14bo\$6b2o7b3ob2o\$6bobo8bob2o17b2o\$4bobobo\$3b
obo2bob2o27bo2b2o\$2bo2bobobo2bo27b3o\$2b2obobo3bobo27bo\$5bob2o3bo\$2b2o
bo42bo\$o2bobo41bobo\$2o2bo4b2o4b2o12b2o17bo\$8bo2bo2bo2bo11b2o\$2o2bo4b2o
4b2o\$o2bobo\$2b2obo\$5bob2o3bo\$2b2obobo3bobo31b2o\$2bo2bobobo2bo28bo3b2o
\$3bobo2bob2o28bobo\$4bobobo30bobo\$6bobo30bo\$6b2o30b2o!``````
don't know if it's UR141R or URx141R
- Christopher D'Agostino

adopted father of the U-turner

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``````x = 11, y = 15, rule = B3/S23
9bo\$8bobo\$8bobo\$9bo8\$b3o\$b3o\$obo\$2o!``````
the U-turner gallery
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can we make a (13,4)c/41 spaceship?

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### Re: The Hunting of the Elementary Conduits

C28 wrote:
September 5th, 2022, 1:33 pm
U to R with transparent block

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``````x = 50, y = 25, rule = B3/S23
21b2o\$17bobo2bo\$15b3ob2o\$14bo\$6b2o7b3ob2o\$6bobo8bob2o17b2o\$4bobobo\$3b
obo2bob2o27bo2b2o\$2bo2bobobo2bo27b3o\$2b2obobo3bobo27bo\$5bob2o3bo\$2b2o
bo42bo\$o2bobo41bobo\$2o2bo4b2o4b2o12b2o17bo\$8bo2bo2bo2bo11b2o\$2o2bo4b2o
4b2o\$o2bobo\$2b2obo\$5bob2o3bo\$2b2obobo3bobo31b2o\$2bo2bobobo2bo28bo3b2o
\$3bobo2bob2o28bobo\$4bobobo30bobo\$6bobo30bo\$6b2o30b2o!``````
don't know if it's UR141R or URx141R
Nice!
It can be reduced a bit:

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``````x = 33, y = 23, rule = LifeHistory
5.2C\$5.2C2\$5.4C12.2A\$5.C2.C\$22.A2.2A\$2C21.3A\$.C22.A\$.C.C\$2.2C27.A\$30.
A.A\$12.2A17.A\$12.2A5\$28.2A\$24.A3.2A\$23.A.A\$22.A.A\$22.A\$21.2A!
``````

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### Re: The Hunting of the Elementary Conduits

simeks wrote:
September 5th, 2022, 4:42 pm
C28 wrote:
September 5th, 2022, 1:33 pm
U to R with transparent block

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``````x = 50, y = 25, rule = B3/S23
21b2o\$17bobo2bo\$15b3ob2o\$14bo\$6b2o7b3ob2o\$6bobo8bob2o17b2o\$4bobobo\$3b
obo2bob2o27bo2b2o\$2bo2bobobo2bo27b3o\$2b2obobo3bobo27bo\$5bob2o3bo\$2b2o
bo42bo\$o2bobo41bobo\$2o2bo4b2o4b2o12b2o17bo\$8bo2bo2bo2bo11b2o\$2o2bo4b2o
4b2o\$o2bobo\$2b2obo\$5bob2o3bo\$2b2obobo3bobo31b2o\$2bo2bobobo2bo28bo3b2o
\$3bobo2bob2o28bobo\$4bobobo30bobo\$6bobo30bo\$6b2o30b2o!``````
don't know if it's UR141R or URx141R
Nice!
It can be reduced a bit:

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``````x = 33, y = 23, rule = LifeHistory
5.2C\$5.2C2\$5.4C12.2A\$5.C2.C\$22.A2.2A\$2C21.3A\$.C22.A\$.C.C\$2.2C27.A\$30.
A.A\$12.2A17.A\$12.2A5\$28.2A\$24.A3.2A\$23.A.A\$22.A.A\$22.A\$21.2A!
``````
that would've been nice to know before i spend 2 months trying to find a way to clear the debris
- Christopher D'Agostino

adopted father of the U-turner

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``````x = 11, y = 15, rule = B3/S23
9bo\$8bobo\$8bobo\$9bo8\$b3o\$b3o\$obo\$2o!``````
the U-turner gallery
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can we make a (13,4)c/41 spaceship?

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### Re: The Hunting of the Elementary Conduits

Are there any extremely high clearance lom injectors?

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``````x = 36, y = 28, rule = TripleLife
17.G\$17.3G\$20.G\$19.2G11\$9.EF\$8.FG.GD\$8.DGAGF\$10.DGD5\$2.2G\$3.G30.2G\$3G
25.2G5.G\$G27.G.G.3G\$21.2G7.G.G\$21.2G7.2G!
``````
Bow down to the Herschel

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### Re: The Hunting of the Elementary Conduits

Wyirm wrote:
September 8th, 2022, 4:37 pm
Are there any extremely high clearance lom injectors?
Somebody can correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm fairly sure that known X-to-LOM and LOM-to-X technology is mostly all documented in this thread -- and there isn't very much of it at all, high-clearance or not. It's generally not. There seems to be a group of LOM-related converters starting in this post and several below it.

You can engineer a LOM injector that's as high-clearance as you want (depending on where exactly the clearance has to be) -- starting from either the 2-glider collision if that works, or something more complicated with three or four gliders:

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``````x = 37, y = 34, rule = LifeHistory
.BA\$ABAB\$.2A2B\$2.4B\$3.4B\$4.4B\$5.4B\$6.4B\$7.4B\$8.4B\$9.4B\$10.4B\$5.BA4.4B
\$4.ABAB4.4B\$5.2A2B4.4B\$6.4B4.4B16.AB\$7.4B4.4B14.BABA\$8.4B4.4B12.2B2A\$
9.4B4.4B10.4B\$9.A4B4.4B8.4B\$9.B2A3B4.4B6.4B\$9.2A5B4.4B4.4B\$10.7B4.4B
2.4B\$11.7B4.8B\$12.7B4.6B\$13.7B3.5B\$14.7B.5B\$15.6B.BD4B\$16.6BDBD3B\$16.
6BDBD3B\$14.3D6BD3B\$13.BD2B2D8B\$14.2D2BD6B\$16.3D6B!``````

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### Re: The Hunting of the Elementary Conduits

I was going to see if a Lom to dove such as this one would be useful:

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``````x = 13, y = 15, rule = B3/S23
5b2o\$5b2o4\$11b2o\$10bobo\$2o8bobo\$2o8b2o4\$7bo\$6bobo\$7b2o!
``````

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``````x = 36, y = 28, rule = TripleLife
17.G\$17.3G\$20.G\$19.2G11\$9.EF\$8.FG.GD\$8.DGAGF\$10.DGD5\$2.2G\$3.G30.2G\$3G
25.2G5.G\$G27.G.G.3G\$21.2G7.G.G\$21.2G7.2G!
``````
Bow down to the Herschel

affamatodidio
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### Re: The Hunting of the Elementary Conduits

Probably been found before.

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``````x = 24, y = 18, rule = B3/S23
6bo\$5bobo\$5bobo\$6bo\$20b2o\$20bo\$18bobo\$18b2o\$23bo\$21b3o\$20bo\$o17bo2bo\$
obo15b4o\$3o\$2bo15b2o\$19bo\$19bobo\$20b2o!``````
Aaaaand fully clean with the help of a 180 degree reflector:

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``````x = 51, y = 40, rule = B3/S23
33bo\$32bobo\$32bobo\$33bo\$47b2o\$47bo\$45bobo\$45b2o\$50bo\$48b3o\$47bo\$27bo17b
o2bo\$27bobo15b4o\$27b3o\$29bo15b2o\$46bo\$46bobo\$16bo30b2o\$3b2o9b3o\$4bo8b
o\$b3o3bo5b2o\$o3b4o\$obo\$b2ob2o\$4b2o\$b2o\$bo\$2bo\$b2o\$19b2o\$18bobo\$3b2o5b
2o6bo\$2bobo4bo2bo3b3o\$2bo6bobo3bo3b2o\$b2o7bo4b4o2bo\$6b2o10bob2o\$7bo7b
2obo\$4b3o9bobo\$4bo9bobob2o\$14b2o!``````
If you add a conduit 1 you can shrink it:

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``````x = 48, y = 47, rule = LifeHistory
29.BA\$28.BABA\$28.BABA\$29.BA2B\$27.5B12.2A\$26.11B7.A\$26.13B2.BA.A\$27.13B
.B2A\$26.16B5.A\$24.19B2.3A\$22.20B2.A\$22.2BC17BA2.A\$21.3BCBC4B.7B2.B4A\$
22.2B3C4B2.7B.B\$16.A4.5BC4B3.6B2.2A\$3.2A9.3A3.10B4.5B4.A\$4.A8.A5.4B11.
5B4.A.A\$.3A3.A5.2A3.4B12.5B5.2A\$A3.4A3.4B2.4B11.7B\$A.A.B3.5B3.4B5.A.2A
2.8B\$.2AB2A13B6.2A.A12B\$4.2A12B12.11B\$.2A3.11B13.4B2A5B\$.A4.10B15.3B2A
5B\$2.A3.9B16.10B\$.2A2.9B18.9B\$5.9B5.2A11.9B\$5.9B4.A.A11.8B\$3.2AB.3B2A
2B4.A14.8B\$2.A.AB.2BA2BA2B.3A15.6B\$2.A5.BABA3BAB2.2A13.6B\$.2A3.4BA4B4A
2.A12.6B\$6.2A5.4B.A.2A11.7B\$7.A7.2A.A14.6B\$4.3A9.A.A15.6B\$4.A9.A.A.2A
14.5B\$14.2A17.6B\$33.6B\$33.6B\$33.B3D2B\$33.3BD2B\$33.2B3DB\$34.5B\$36.B\$35.
3B\$35.B2AB\$36.2A!
``````

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### Re: The Hunting of the Elementary Conduits

affamatodidio wrote:
September 9th, 2022, 1:27 pm
If you add a conduit 1 you can shrink it...
Looks like that makes a new Rx113 conduit, easily inside the arbitrary limits for these things -- travel time no more than 300, size no more than 100x100, repeat time no more than 500. Oddly enough, I think this might now be the fastest Rx Herschel conduit that we know about -- Rx is an unusual output orientation for some reason.

You can't really shrink it _quite_ as far as the third pattern, because then you can't get the input Herschel in. In practice the repeat time seems to be 198 or above, though I haven't tried all the weird input Herschel delivery methods, just a standard Fx77:

EDIT: Actually the minimum is 170 ticks, as AlbertArmstain and Entity Valkyrie point out below.

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``````x = 125, y = 76, rule = LifeHistory
57.2A11.A\$57.2A10.A.A\$69.A.A2.2A3.A\$68.2A.2A2.A2.A.A12.A\$72.A.A3.A.A
10.3A\$68.2A.A2.4A.A10.A\$68.2A.A.A3.A12.2A\$72.A.A3.A9.4B\$73.A.A3.A7.3B
\$74.A3.2A7.4B16.A\$86.5B15.A.A\$71.4B11.6B14.A.A\$72.10B2.8B15.A\$65.2A6.
5BD14B28.2A\$65.2A7.2B3D13B29.A\$50.2A21.3BDBD4B.7B28.A.A\$49.A2.A21.2BD
15B27.2A\$48.A.2A22.18B32.A\$48.A27.17B29.3A\$47.2A29.15B.2B2.2B21.A\$62.
2A15.22BD17.A2.A\$62.A16.8B.13BDBD15.4A\$63.3A11.8B3.2B2A9B3DB\$65.A11.
2A3.B5.2B2A11BD15.2A\$50.3A25.A10.13B18.A\$52.A19.2A.3A12.B.3B.B14.5B4.
A.A\$51.A21.A.A35.5B5.2A\$71.A.A.A13.A19.7B\$71.2A3.2A9.3A12.A.2A2.8B\$
77.A8.A15.2A.A12B\$74.3A3.A5.2A19.11B\$73.A3.4A26.4B2A5B\$73.A.A32.3B2A
5B\$74.2A.2A29.10B\$77.2A30.9B\$74.2A33.9B\$74.A34.8B\$75.A34.8B\$74.2A35.
6B\$92.2A17.6B\$91.A.A17.6B\$76.2A5.2A6.A18.7B\$75.A.A4.A2.A3.3A18.6B\$75.
A6.A.A3.A3.2A17.6B\$74.2A7.A4.4A2.A16.5B\$79.2A10.A.2A15.6B\$80.A7.2A.A
18.6B\$77.3A9.A.A18.6B\$77.A9.A.A.2A17.B3D2B\$87.2A21.3BD2B\$110.2B3DB\$
111.5B\$113.B\$112.3B\$112.B2AB\$113.2A18\$.2A\$A.A\$2.A!``````

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### Re: The Hunting of the Elementary Conduits

dvgrn wrote:
September 9th, 2022, 2:34 pm
affamatodidio wrote:
September 9th, 2022, 1:27 pm
If you add a conduit 1 you can shrink it...
Looks like that makes a new Rx113 conduit, easily inside the arbitrary limits for these things -- travel time no more than 300, size no more than 100x100, repeat time no more than 500. Oddly enough, I think this might now be the fastest Rx Herschel conduit that we know about -- Rx is an unusual output orientation for some reason.

You can't really shrink it _quite_ as far as the third pattern, because then you can't get the input Herschel in. In practice the repeat time seems to be 198 or above, though I haven't tried all the weird input Herschel delivery methods, just a standard Fx77:

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``````x = 125, y = 76, rule = LifeHistory
57.2A11.A\$57.2A10.A.A\$69.A.A2.2A3.A\$68.2A.2A2.A2.A.A12.A\$72.A.A3.A.A
10.3A\$68.2A.A2.4A.A10.A\$68.2A.A.A3.A12.2A\$72.A.A3.A9.4B\$73.A.A3.A7.3B
\$74.A3.2A7.4B16.A\$86.5B15.A.A\$71.4B11.6B14.A.A\$72.10B2.8B15.A\$65.2A6.
5BD14B28.2A\$65.2A7.2B3D13B29.A\$50.2A21.3BDBD4B.7B28.A.A\$49.A2.A21.2BD
15B27.2A\$48.A.2A22.18B32.A\$48.A27.17B29.3A\$47.2A29.15B.2B2.2B21.A\$62.
2A15.22BD17.A2.A\$62.A16.8B.13BDBD15.4A\$63.3A11.8B3.2B2A9B3DB\$65.A11.
2A3.B5.2B2A11BD15.2A\$50.3A25.A10.13B18.A\$52.A19.2A.3A12.B.3B.B14.5B4.
A.A\$51.A21.A.A35.5B5.2A\$71.A.A.A13.A19.7B\$71.2A3.2A9.3A12.A.2A2.8B\$
77.A8.A15.2A.A12B\$74.3A3.A5.2A19.11B\$73.A3.4A26.4B2A5B\$73.A.A32.3B2A
5B\$74.2A.2A29.10B\$77.2A30.9B\$74.2A33.9B\$74.A34.8B\$75.A34.8B\$74.2A35.
6B\$92.2A17.6B\$91.A.A17.6B\$76.2A5.2A6.A18.7B\$75.A.A4.A2.A3.3A18.6B\$75.
A6.A.A3.A3.2A17.6B\$74.2A7.A4.4A2.A16.5B\$79.2A10.A.2A15.6B\$80.A7.2A.A
18.6B\$77.3A9.A.A18.6B\$77.A9.A.A.2A17.B3D2B\$87.2A21.3BD2B\$110.2B3DB\$
111.5B\$113.B\$112.3B\$112.B2AB\$113.2A18\$.2A\$A.A\$2.A!``````
It can be pulled in further:

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``````x = 125, y = 76, rule = LifeHistory
57.2A11.A\$56.B2AB9.A.A\$57.3B9.A.A2.2A3.A\$56.B.B9.2A.2A2.A2.A.A12.A\$56.
5B8.B2.A.A3.A.A10.3A\$56.6B6.2ABA2.4A.A10.A\$56.8B4.2A.A.A3.A12.2A\$57.13B
2.A.AB2.A9.4B\$55.13B5.A.A2B.A7.3B\$54.15B5.A2B.2A7.4B15.BA\$54.15B4.3B10.
5B14.BABA\$53.17B.B.2B11.6B13.BABA\$53.29B2.8B14.BA2B\$52.13B2A11BD14B11.
5B12.2A\$51.14B2A9B3D13B11.11B7.A\$50.2AB3.20BDBD4B.7B12.13B2.BA.A\$49.A
2.A4.19BD15B12.13B.B2A\$48.A.2A5.6B3.B2.2B2.19B11.16B5.A\$48.A7.6B14.17B
8.19B2.3A\$47.2A6.9B14.15B.2B2.21B2.A\$54.4B4.2A15.22BD17BA2.A\$53.4B5.A
16.8B.13BDBD4B.7B2.B4A\$52.4B7.3A11.8B3.2B2A9B3D4B2.7B.B\$51.4B10.A11.2A
3.B5.2B2A11BD4B3.6B2.2A\$50.3AB24.A10.18B4.5B4.A\$49.3BA22.3A12.B.3B.4B
11.5B4.A.A\$48.3BA23.A4.2A13.4B12.5B5.2A\$47.4B29.A.A2.2A7.4B11.2B2DBDB
\$46.4B27.A4.A3.A6.4B5.A.2A2.4B3DB\$45.4B28.5A.3A6.4B6.2A.A7BD4B\$44.4B33.
A.A7.4B12.11B\$43.4B30.3ABABA6.4B3.2A8.4B2A5B\$42.4B30.A2.AB2A6.4B4.A10.
3B2A5B\$41.4B31.2A2.4B4.5B.BA.A10.10B\$40.4B36.13B.B2A12.9B\$39.4B38.2BA
11B14.9B\$38.4B39.BABA10B14.8B\$37.4B40.A2BA9B16.8B\$36.4B41.B2A10B17.6B
\$35.4B42.13B17.6B\$34.4B41.2AB.10B.2A15.6B\$33.4B41.A.AB3.8B.A15.7B\$32.
4B42.A4.5B3.2A.A15.6B\$31.4B42.2A4.2A6.2ABA.2A13.6B\$30.4B50.A7.B2.A.A13.
5B\$29.4B48.3A3.2A.A.2A.A14.6B\$28.4B49.A5.A.2A.A2.A14.6B\$27.4B62.2A15.
6B\$26.4B80.B3D2B\$25.4B81.3BD2B\$24.4B82.2B3DB\$23.4B84.5B\$22.4B87.B\$21.
4B87.3B\$20.4B88.B2AB\$19.4B90.2A\$18.4B\$17.4B\$16.4B\$15.4B\$14.4B\$13.4B\$12.
4B\$11.4B\$10.4B\$9.4B\$8.4B\$7.4B\$6.4B\$5.4B\$4.4B\$3.4B\$2.4B\$.2A2B\$ABAB\$.BA
!``````

Kazyan
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### Re: The Hunting of the Elementary Conduits

HL224H, with glider outputs. This is basically a crosspost from the H-to-G thread after I noticed that an eater was suppressing a perfectly good no-strings-attached H output:

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``````x = 48, y = 76, rule = LifeHistory
.D3.D.D6.3D3.3D5.D2.D3.D\$.D3.D.D5.D3.D.D3.D3.2D2.D3.D\$.D3.D.D9.D5.D2.
D.D2.D3.D\$.5D.D8.D5.D2.D2.D2.5D\$.D3.D.D7.D5.D3.5D.D3.D\$.D3.D.D6.D5.D
7.D2.D3.D\$.D3.D.5D.5D.5D4.D2.D3.D9\$.D3.D.D3.D3.D4.3D2.5D2.3D2.5D.5D\$.
2D2.D.D3.D2.2D3.D3.D3.D3.D3.D5.D5.D\$.D.D.D.D3.D3.D7.D3.D7.D4.D5.D\$.D
2.2D.D.D.D3.D6.D4.D6.D4.D5.D\$.D3.D.D.D.D3.D5.D5.D5.D4.D5.D\$.D3.D.2D.
2D3.D4.D6.D4.D4.D5.D\$.D3.D.D3.D2.3D2.5D3.D3.5D.D5.D4\$2.3D2.D3.D8.3D2.
5D2.3D4.D\$.D3.D.D3.D7.D3.D3.D3.D3.D2.2D\$.D5.D3.D11.D3.D7.D3.D\$2.3D2.D
.D.D.5D4.D4.D6.D4.D\$5.D.D.D.D9.D5.D5.D5.D\$.D3.D.2D.2D8.D6.D4.D6.D\$2.
3D2.D3.D7.5D3.D3.5D2.3D5\$12.B\$11.3D\$11.BDB\$10.3D2B\$10.5B\$9.7B10.A\$B8.
6B9.3A\$2B8.5B8.A\$3B7.6B7.2A\$4B5.6B5.5B4.2A\$.4B4.7B3.4B6.A\$2.14B2.6B2.
BA.A\$3.22B.B2A\$3.24B\$2.25B\$2.24B\$.25B\$.26B\$.27B\$.27B\$2.26B\$2.26B\$3.
25B\$3.24B\$4.22B\$6.19B\$6.19B\$6.2BC16B\$5.3BCBC15B.B\$6.2B3C16B2A\$5.5BC4B
.11B2A\$4.10B4.10B\$3.4B.4B6.10B\$2.4B3.3B6.8B\$.4B4.4B6.6B\$4B5.B2AB4.5B\$
3B7.2A5.2A\$2B16.A\$B14.3A\$15.A!``````
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### Re: The Hunting of the Elementary Conduits

Kazyan wrote:
September 9th, 2022, 3:21 pm
HL224H, with glider outputs...
Wow, there are still old-style Spartan Herschel conduits out there to be found with just four catalysts?

This one looks like it ought to make a nice delay component, since the signal stays in a fairly compact area for a couple hundred ticks. Maybe not quite compact enough to improve any higher-period guns, since it doesn't connect directly to a syringe -- but that's really just the gun collection's fault for being so optimized already.

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### Re: The Hunting of the Elementary Conduits

you can get another glider, but it passes right through the output herschel area

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``````x = 33, y = 46, rule = LifeHistory
6.4B\$7.4B\$8.4B\$9.4B\$10.4B\$11.4B\$12.4B\$13.3DB\$13.BD3B\$12.3D4B\$B11.8B\$
2B9.10B\$3B8.6B.4B\$4B8.5B2.4B\$.4B7.6B2.4B\$2.4B5.6B4.4B6.2A\$3.4B4.7B3.
4B6.A\$4.14B2.6B2.BA.A\$5.22B.B2A\$5.24B\$4.25B\$4.24B\$3.25B\$3.26B\$3.27B\$
3.27B\$4.26B\$4.26B\$5.25B\$5.24B\$6.22B\$8.19B\$8.19B\$8.2BD16B\$7.3BDBD15B.B
\$8.2B3D16B2A\$7.5BD4B.11B2A\$6.10B4.10B\$5.4B.4B6.10B\$4.4B3.3B6.8B\$3.4B
4.4B6.6B\$2.4B5.B2AB4.5B\$.4B7.2A5.2A\$4B16.A\$3B14.3A\$17.A!
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### Re: The Hunting of the Elementary Conduits

well, that can be a good thing ^^

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``````x = 161, y = 104, rule = LifeHistory
15\$108.2A\$90.B18.A\$90.2B15.A\$18.4B68.3B14.5A\$19.4B67.4B17.A\$20.4B67.
4B10.4AB\$21.4B67.4B9.A2.AB\$22.4B67.4B9.6B\$23.4B67.4B9.6B\$24.4B67.4B7.
7B\$25.4B67.4B6.7B\$26.4B6.A60.4B5.8B\$27.4B5.3A59.4B5.7B\$28.4B7.A59.4B
3.8B\$29.4B5.2A60.4B2.9B\$30.4B4.3B.2B57.14B\$31.4B5.7B5.B49.13B9.2A\$32.
24B47.15B6.A\$32.25B47.15B2.BA.A\$27.2A2.26B46.17B.B2A\$27.A2.A26B46.19B
\$28.3A25B48.19B\$31.22B2.B2A40.2A2.20B\$24.2A.A.2AB2.2B3.10B.B4.BA.A39.
A.A.2A16B.B2A\$24.A.2A.A9.8B11.A41.AB2AB.13B2.BA.A\$29.A9.7B12.2A39.A2.
B4.11B6.A\$29.2A7.11B50.2A.2A2.11B7.2A\$38.12B50.A.A3.14B\$38.12B50.A.A
2.16B\$39.11B51.2A.2AB.13B\$37.4B.4B3DB53.A.AB.13B\$37.2A4.4BD3B52.A6.2B
.4B3DB\$34.C3.A4.2B3D4B50.2A10.4BD3B\$33.BC3A6.9B61.2B3D4B\$44.10B50.B
10.9B\$32.4C8.11B49.2B9.10B\$32.C3.C8.11B48.3B8.11B\$35.2C8.12B47.B2CB8.
11B\$38.B5.6B2.BA4B6.2A39.BC2B7.12B\$36.4B4.7B.BA4B6.A41.CBCB5.6B2.BA4B
6.2A\$37.14B2.6B2.BA.A42.2C2B4.7B.BA4B6.A\$38.22B.B2A44.14B2.6B2.BA.A\$
38.24B47.22B.B2A\$37.25B47.24B\$37.24B47.25B\$36.25B47.24B\$36.26B45.25B\$
36.27B44.26B\$36.27B44.27B\$37.26B44.27B\$37.26B45.26B\$38.25B45.26B\$38.
24B47.25B\$39.22B48.24B\$41.19B50.22B\$41.19B52.19B\$41.2BC16B52.19B\$40.
3BCBC15B.B49.2BC16B\$41.2B3C16B2A47.3BC.C15B.B\$40.5BC4B.11B2A48.2B3C
16B2A\$39.10B4.10B48.4B.C4B.11B2A\$38.4B.4B6.10B47.5B2.3B4.10B\$37.4B3.
3B6.8B48.4B.4B6.10B\$36.4B4.4B6.6B48.4B3.3B6.8B\$35.4B5.B2AB4.5B50.4B4.
4B6.6B\$34.4B7.2A5.2A52.4B5.B2AB4.5B\$33.4B16.A51.4B7.2A5.2A\$33.3B14.3A
51.4B16.A\$50.A53.3B14.3A\$121.A!

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### Re: The Hunting of the Elementary Conduits

AlbertArmStain wrote:
September 9th, 2022, 3:08 pm
It can be pulled in further:

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``````x = 125, y = 76, rule = LifeHistory
57.2A11.A\$56.B2AB9.A.A\$57.3B9.A.A2.2A3.A\$56.B.B9.2A.2A2.A2.A.A12.A\$56.
5B8.B2.A.A3.A.A10.3A\$56.6B6.2ABA2.4A.A10.A\$56.8B4.2A.A.A3.A12.2A\$57.13B
2.A.AB2.A9.4B\$55.13B5.A.A2B.A7.3B\$54.15B5.A2B.2A7.4B15.BA\$54.15B4.3B10.
5B14.BABA\$53.17B.B.2B11.6B13.BABA\$53.29B2.8B14.BA2B\$52.13B2A11BD14B11.
5B12.2A\$51.14B2A9B3D13B11.11B7.A\$50.2AB3.20BDBD4B.7B12.13B2.BA.A\$49.A
2.A4.19BD15B12.13B.B2A\$48.A.2A5.6B3.B2.2B2.19B11.16B5.A\$48.A7.6B14.17B
8.19B2.3A\$47.2A6.9B14.15B.2B2.21B2.A\$54.4B4.2A15.22BD17BA2.A\$53.4B5.A
16.8B.13BDBD4B.7B2.B4A\$52.4B7.3A11.8B3.2B2A9B3D4B2.7B.B\$51.4B10.A11.2A
3.B5.2B2A11BD4B3.6B2.2A\$50.3AB24.A10.18B4.5B4.A\$49.3BA22.3A12.B.3B.4B
11.5B4.A.A\$48.3BA23.A4.2A13.4B12.5B5.2A\$47.4B29.A.A2.2A7.4B11.2B2DBDB
\$46.4B27.A4.A3.A6.4B5.A.2A2.4B3DB\$45.4B28.5A.3A6.4B6.2A.A7BD4B\$44.4B33.
A.A7.4B12.11B\$43.4B30.3ABABA6.4B3.2A8.4B2A5B\$42.4B30.A2.AB2A6.4B4.A10.
3B2A5B\$41.4B31.2A2.4B4.5B.BA.A10.10B\$40.4B36.13B.B2A12.9B\$39.4B38.2BA
11B14.9B\$38.4B39.BABA10B14.8B\$37.4B40.A2BA9B16.8B\$36.4B41.B2A10B17.6B
\$35.4B42.13B17.6B\$34.4B41.2AB.10B.2A15.6B\$33.4B41.A.AB3.8B.A15.7B\$32.
4B42.A4.5B3.2A.A15.6B\$31.4B42.2A4.2A6.2ABA.2A13.6B\$30.4B50.A7.B2.A.A13.
5B\$29.4B48.3A3.2A.A.2A.A14.6B\$28.4B49.A5.A.2A.A2.A14.6B\$27.4B62.2A15.
6B\$26.4B80.B3D2B\$25.4B81.3BD2B\$24.4B82.2B3DB\$23.4B84.5B\$22.4B87.B\$21.
4B87.3B\$20.4B88.B2AB\$19.4B90.2A\$18.4B\$17.4B\$16.4B\$15.4B\$14.4B\$13.4B\$12.
4B\$11.4B\$10.4B\$9.4B\$8.4B\$7.4B\$6.4B\$5.4B\$4.4B\$3.4B\$2.4B\$.2A2B\$ABAB\$.BA
!``````
Pulled in even further by replacing the drifty eater3 with the smaller catalyst:

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``````x = 118, y = 69, rule = B3/S23
49b2o11bo\$49b2o10bobo\$61bobo2b2o3bo\$60b2ob2o2bo2bobo12bo\$64bobo3bobo
10b3o\$60b2obo2b4obo10bo\$60b2obobo3bo12b2o\$64bobo3bo\$65bobo3bo\$66bo3b2o
27bo\$98bobo\$98bobo\$99bo\$57b2o11bo42b2o\$57b2o9b3o42bo\$42b2o24bo42bobo\$
41bo2bo23bo42b2o\$40bob2o\$40bo\$39b2o72b2o\$54b2o37bo17bo2bo\$54bo38bo17b
3o\$55b3o24b2o9b3o\$43bo13bo11b2o11b2o11bo15b2obob2o\$43b2o25bo41bob2obo\$
42bobo22b3o42bo\$67bo4bobo36b2o\$71bob2o\$71bo24b2o\$67bob2ob3o20bobo\$67b
2obobo2bo14b2o3bo\$74b2o14bo3b2o7b2o\$88bobo12b2o\$88b2o\$76bo\$75bobo\$74bo
2bo\$75b2o2\$72b2o13b2o\$71bobo13bo\$71bo12b2obo\$70b2o4b2o6b2obob2o\$77bo
10bobo\$74b3o3b2obob2obo\$74bo5bob2obo2bo\$86b2o2\$103b3o\$105bo\$105b2o8\$
100b2o\$99bo2bo\$100b2o6\$2o\$b2o\$o!
``````
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### Re: The Hunting of the Elementary Conduits

A version of RF28B that fits in some situation where nothing else works:
Edit: reduced catalyst.

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``````x = 19, y = 18, rule = LifeHistory
6.2C\$.2C.C2.3C\$C.C.2C4.C\$C4.C.3C\$.3C.C.C\$3.C.C\$2.2B2C.B\$4.3B\$5.4B\$3.
7B.2B\$3.5B2.3B\$3.2BA10BD\$3.2B2A10BD\$3.B2A11B2D\$3.13B2D\$4.12BD\$5.11B\$
9.B3.B!
``````
Edit 2:
New high-clearance version of RF48H:

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``````x = 28, y = 27, rule = LifeHistory
4.2C\$4.C5.C\$5.3C.C.C\$7.C.C.C3.2C\$8.B.C3.C.C\$3.6B5.C\$.3B2C4B3.2C\$3BC2B
C4B2.B\$4B2C8B\$17B\$.17B\$2.16B\$3.15B\$3.14B\$3.16B2.2B\$3.2BE18BD\$3.2B2E
17BDBD\$2.2B2E18B3DB\$2.24BD\$.20B\$.17B.B\$.7B.8B\$2.4B5.4B\$3.2B\$4.2B\$3.B
2CB\$4.2C!
``````

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### Re: The Hunting of the Elementary Conduits

simeks wrote:
September 10th, 2022, 11:08 am
Edit 2:
New high-clearance version of RF48H:

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``````x = 28, y = 27, rule = LifeHistory
4.2C\$4.C5.C\$5.3C.C.C\$7.C.C.C3.2C\$8.B.C3.C.C\$3.6B5.C\$.3B2C4B3.2C\$3BC2B
C4B2.B\$4B2C8B\$17B\$.17B\$2.16B\$3.15B\$3.14B\$3.16B2.2B\$3.2BE18BD\$3.2B2E
17BDBD\$2.2B2E18B3DB\$2.24BD\$.20B\$.17B.B\$.7B.8B\$2.4B5.4B\$3.2B\$4.2B\$3.B
2CB\$4.2C!
``````
smaller

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``````x = 28, y = 26, rule = LifeHistory
11.2A\$7.2A2.A\$7.A.A.A3.2C\$8.B.A3.C.C\$3.6B5.C\$.3B2C4B3.2C\$3BC2BC4B2.B\$
4B2C8B\$17B\$.17B\$2.16B\$3.15B\$3.14B\$3.16B2.2B\$3.2BE18BD\$3.2B2E17BDBD\$2.
2B2E18B3DB\$2.24BD\$.20B\$.17B.B\$.7B.8B\$2.4B5.4B\$3.2B\$4.2B\$3.B2CB\$4.2C!``````
- Christopher D'Agostino

adopted father of the U-turner

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``````x = 11, y = 15, rule = B3/S23
9bo\$8bobo\$8bobo\$9bo8\$b3o\$b3o\$obo\$2o!``````
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### Re: The Hunting of the Elementary Conduits

simeks wrote:
September 10th, 2022, 11:08 am
New high-clearance version of RF48H...
Nice find! Did you have any particular connectors in mind, for that "high-clearance" description, that weren't workable with existing variants of RF48H? I was hoping that it could connect to a Herschel receiver, but that's obviously not what it's supposed to be for.

It can certainly connect to HLx111R, with two advantages: the repeat time goes down by 33 ticks, and the output Herschel's glider can escape. That will have to come in handy somewhere sometime:

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``````x = 93, y = 94, rule = LifeHistory
13.D12.D2.5D2.3D\$13.D11.2D2.D5.D3.D\$13.D5.D3.D2.D2.D5.D3.D\$13.D6.D.D
3.D3.3D3.4D\$13.D7.D4.D6.D5.D\$13.D6.D.D3.D2.D3.D5.D\$13.5D.D3.D.3D2.3D
3.3D10\$26.B49.B\$20.2A3.3D47.3D\$19.B2AB2.BDB47.BDB\$20.2B2.2B3D46.B3D\$
19.2B3.5B46.4B\$18.BA2B.7B45.5B\$18.A.A9B45.5B\$19.A.8B45.5B\$13.2A.3A4.
6B44.6B\$13.2A.A7.6B44.6B\$16.A6.7B43.7B.3B\$16.3A4.6B4.2A37.13B4.2A\$19.
A3.6B4.A38.13B5.A\$18.2A3.6B.BA.A37.14B2.3A\$18.11B.B2A38.16BA\$20.11B
40.15B6.A\$19.11B41.15B4.3A\$18.12B42.15B2.A\$18.15B39.16B2.A\$18.15B40.
17B.A\$15.AB.16B.B36.17B.2A\$14.A.A10BD7B2A31.B3.5BD8BA2B\$14.2A.9B3D6B
2A30.2AB.5B3D6BABAB\$19.7BD7B.B31.2A7BD8BABAB\$19.14B35.B.16BA2B\$18.13B
40.10B.6B\$19.12B39.11B2.5B\$20.10B40.10B4.3B\$19.12B38.12B\$18.14B36.14B
\$18.17B33.17B\$19.15B2A33.15B2A\$19.15B2A33.15B2A\$18.17B33.17B\$15.16B
34.16B\$14.16B34.16B\$14.16B34.16B\$13.16B34.16B\$12.20B30.20B\$12.20B30.
20B\$13.20B30.20B\$12.22B28.22B\$10.24B26.24B\$8.25B25.25B\$8.2BC13B.10B
23.2BC13B.10B\$7.3BCBC4B.7B2.2B4.2A22.3BCBC4B.7B2.2B4.2A\$8.2B3C4B2.3B.
B4.B4.A24.2B3C4B2.3B.B4.B4.A\$7.5BC4B4.2B2A3.2A4.3A20.5BC4B4.2B2A3.2A
4.3A\$6.10B4.BA2.A4.A6.A19.10B4.BA2.A4.A6.A\$5.4B12.3A5.A.A23.4B12.3A5.
A.A\$5.3B22.2A23.3B22.2A\$3.4B14.3A29.4B14.3A\$3.2A16.A2.A28.2A16.A2.A\$
4.A18.2A29.A18.2A\$.3A47.3A\$.A49.A2\$64.D2.3D2.5D.D\$63.D2.D3.D5.D2.D\$
62.D3.D3.D4.D4.D\$62.D4.4D3.D5.D\$62.D7.D2.D6.D\$17.D2.D3.3D3.3D2.D27.D
6.D2.D5.D\$16.D2.2D2.D3.D.D3.D2.D27.D.4D3.D4.D\$15.D4.D6.D.D2.2D3.D\$15.
D4.D3.3D2.D.D.D3.D\$15.D4.D6.D.2D2.D3.D\$16.D3.D2.D3.D.D3.D2.D\$17.D.3D
2.3D3.3D2.D2\$2.D15.D3.5D19.D5.D2.D\$.D2.D3.D.5D2.2D3.D8.D3.D.5D3.2D4.
2D3.D\$D4.D.D10.D3.D8.D3.D8.D.D3.D.D4.D\$D5.D11.D4.3D5.D3.D7.D2.D2.D2.D
4.D\$D4.D.D10.D7.D5.4D7.5D.5D3.D\$.D2.D3.D.5D3.D3.D3.D2.D5.D.5D4.D5.D3.
D\$2.D14.3D3.3D3.D5.D10.D5.D2.D\$28.D3.3D!``````

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### Re: The Hunting of the Elementary Conduits

dvgrn wrote: Did you have any particular connectors in mind, for that "high-clearance" description, that weren't workable with existing variants of RF48H?
I was just playing around with this, trying to find something to connect it to. It doesn´t quite work though:

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``````x = 33, y = 31, rule = LifeHistory
11.2C\$7.2C2.C10.3B\$7.C.C.C3.2C4.4B3.A\$8.B.C3.C.C3.4B3.A.A\$3.6B5.C4.4B
4.A.A\$.3B2C4B3.2C3.4B3.2A.A.2A\$3BC2BC4B2.B3.4B3.A3.A3.A\$4B2C8B3.4B3.A
.2A.2A.A\$21B4.A.A.A.A\$.21B5.4B\$2.19B5.4B\$3.18B3.7B\$3.29B\$3.29B\$3.2BE
18BD6B\$3.2B2E17BDBD4B\$2.2B2E18B3D4B\$2.24BD4B\$.31B\$.31B\$.7B.8B.14B\$2.
5B4.4B4.12B\$3.3B14.9B\$3.3B16.B2A4B\$3.B2CB16.2A4B\$4.2C18.3B.B2A\$22.5B.
BA.A\$22.2A7.A\$23.A7.2A\$20.3A\$20.A!
``````

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### Re: The Hunting of the Elementary Conduits

How are conduits named? Specifically the numbers and variants. I know about the letters that go at the front, but what about the numbers, and which would be the "first" variant? For example, what would these R to H conduits be?

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``````x = 42, y = 41, rule = LifeSuper
14.2A\$15.A\$14.A\$4.A9.2A\$3.A.A3.2A4.B\$2.2BAB3.A.A3.3B\$3.2B5.AB2.6B\$2.
5B2.2B2.10B\$2.22B3.2B2.6B\$.12BD3B2A15BD3B\$13B2D2B2A15BDBDB.2B\$B2E11B
2D18B3D3B2A\$2B2E10BD21BDB.B2A\$2BE10BD24B2.B\$12B3.13B.B\$13B2.7B.B\$.11B
\$2.2B.5B\$.4B.2B\$.B2AB\$2.2A2\$14.2A\$15.A\$14.A\$14.2A\$5.2A8.B\$5.A.A7.3B\$
6.AB6.6B\$5.2B3.B2.10B\$2.B2.19B3.2B2.6B\$.12BD3B2A15BD3B\$13B2D2B2A15BDB
DB.2B\$B2E11B2D18B3D3B2A\$2B2E10BD21BDB.B2A\$2BE10BD24B2.B\$5B.4B5.13B.B\$
10B5.7B.B\$8B\$6B\$.4B!
``````

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``````x = 36, y = 28, rule = TripleLife
17.G\$17.3G\$20.G\$19.2G11\$9.EF\$8.FG.GD\$8.DGAGF\$10.DGD5\$2.2G\$3.G30.2G\$3G
25.2G5.G\$G27.G.G.3G\$21.2G7.G.G\$21.2G7.2G!
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### Re: The Hunting of the Elementary Conduits

Wyirm wrote:
September 11th, 2022, 9:00 pm
How are conduits named? Specifically the numbers and variants. I know about the letters that go at the front, but what about the numbers, and which would be the "first" variant? For example, what would these R to H conduits be?
The bottom R-to-H is a combination of two standard elementary conduits. If it were an elementary conduit it would be "RFx87H", I believe. The number is just the number of ticks it takes for an X-to-Y conduit to convert its input X into its output Y. Section 7.7 of the Life textbook has some more detail.

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``````x = 84, y = 32, rule = LifeHistory
4D2.5D2.3D3.3D2.4D15.4D2.5D7.5D2.3D2.D3.D\$D3.D.D5.D3.D.D3.D.D3.D14.D
3.D.D11.D5.D3.D.D3.D\$D3.D.D9.D.D3.D.D3.D2.4D8.D3.D.D5.D3.D.D5.D3.D.D
3.D2.4D\$4D2.3D6.D3.3D2.4D2.D3.D8.4D2.3D4.D.D3.3D3.4D.5D.D3.D\$D2.D2.D
7.D3.D3.D.D3.D.D3.D8.D3.D.D7.D7.D5.D.D3.D.D3.D\$D3.D.D6.D4.D3.D.D3.D.D
3.D8.D3.D.D6.D.D2.D3.D5.D.D3.D.D3.D\$D3.D.D5.5D2.3D2.4D3.4D8.4D2.D5.D
3.D2.3D3.3D2.D3.D2.4D7\$10.4B\$9.6B\$9.8B\$9.10B35.7B.B\$9.5B.4B35.13B.B\$
9.2BD10BD29.D21B\$9.2B2D10BD28.BD21BD\$9.B2D11B2D26.2B2D18B3DB\$9.13B2D
26.2B2D2B2A15BDBD\$10.12BD27.2BD3B2A15BD\$11.B2.8B30.11B3.2B2.2B\$14.2B
3.B32.10B\$15.AB36.6B\$14.A.A37.3B\$14.2A38.B\$53.2A\$53.A\$54.A\$53.2A!``````
The top R-to-H differs only in the first RF28B conduit. There are nine or ten variants of that catalogued in the Elementary Conduits Collection, so if this new one turns out to fit somewhere where existing variants don't, such that it's worth adding to the ECC, then it would end up being RF28Bj or RF28Bk (I think).

There's no official ratifying vote or anything; whoever decides to do the next round of maintenance on the ECC will give it a lowercase letter postfix identifier if they decide to add it to the collection. It will be a lot more likely to be added if it can be shown to make a useful connection in a way that the other variants don't. The block at the bottom looks like it will prevent connections to a lot of standard H-to-R conduits -- not to the incredible HLx111R, but the clearance is so good for that output R that the standard RF28B usually works fine anyway.

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### Re: The Hunting of the Elementary Conduits

dvgrn wrote:
September 10th, 2022, 3:38 pm
I was hoping that it could connect to a Herschel receiver, but that's obviously not what it's supposed to be for.
If this is what you intended, that is possible too:

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``````x = 71, y = 45, rule = LifeHistory
2BE.4B\$EBEB.4B\$.2E2B.4B\$2.4B.4B\$3.4B.4B\$4.4B.4B\$5.4B.4B\$6.4B.4B\$7.4B.
4B\$8.4B.4B35.2C\$9.4B.4B28.2C5.C\$10.4B.4B6.2A14.C4.C.C.3C\$11.4B.4B4.B
2AB13.3C4.C.C\$12.4B.4B3.3B17.C2.B2C\$13.4B.4B3.B.B15.2C3.2B\$14.4B.10B
9.2C3.6B9.A\$15.4B.11B8.C5.5B8.3A\$16.4B.11B7.C.CB.6B11.A\$17.4B.12B6.2C
B.7B9.2A\$18.4B.12B7.9B9.4B\$19.17B6.11B3.B5.3B\$18.B.18B4.19B.4B\$16.13B
E9B4.25B\$15.12BEBE2B2A6B2.27BD\$16.12B2E2B2A13B2D18B3DB\$15.33B2D17BDBD
\$15.33BD18BD\$17.39B4.2B2.3B\$17.39B\$18.B.B2.32B\$19.3B2.31B\$18.B2AB2.
30B\$19.2A4.29B\$23.2AB.B.25B\$22.A.AB2.6B.18B\$22.A6.2B5.6B2.9B\$21.2A11.
8B3.7B\$34.2A5B3.3B.3B\$34.2A3B4.C2.CB\$36.2B5.4CB\$35.4B10.C\$35.B2AB6.5C
\$36.2A7.C\$47.C\$46.2C!
``````

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### Re: The Hunting of the Elementary Conduits

P to G

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``````x = 28, y = 24, rule = B3/S23
21b2o\$bo18bobo\$b3o16b2o\$4bo19b2o\$3b2o19bobo\$26bo\$26b2o3\$2o3b3o\$2o3bob
o\$5bobo9\$16bo\$15bobo\$15bo2bo\$16b2o!``````
edit: a variation

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``````x = 21, y = 27, rule = B3/S23
8bo\$4bo3b3o\$3bobo5bo\$3bobo4b2o\$b3ob2o\$o\$b3ob2o\$3bob2o5\$2b2o3b3o\$2b2o3b
obo\$7bobo9\$18bo\$17bobo\$17bo2bo\$18b2o!``````
- Christopher D'Agostino

adopted father of the U-turner

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``````x = 11, y = 15, rule = B3/S23
9bo\$8bobo\$8bobo\$9bo8\$b3o\$b3o\$obo\$2o!``````
the U-turner gallery
255P132
can we make a (13,4)c/41 spaceship?

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### Re: The Hunting of the Elementary Conduits

C28 wrote:
September 15th, 2022, 9:39 am
P to G...
edit: a variation...
If I keep complaining about this kind of thing, I will eventually be proved spectacularly wrong, and that will be very entertaining -- but this looks to be in the same category as the "Garden of Eden" converter at the top of the page:
dvgrn wrote:
August 23rd, 2022, 6:39 pm
The U is almost entirely surrounded by the catalysts you've placed... Not to be a wet blanket, but it seems like it would be good to reserve this thread for conduits that have some hope of connecting to other conduits.
I'm sure it's not impossible to sneak a pi-heptomino in past that guardian loaf, but I'm also pretty sure that it's not a trick that can be accomplished by any known X-to-pi conduit, or by anything that's easy to engineer in under say 100x100.

It seems to me that when you're looking for new converters with pi inputs, it would be a really good idea for you to always start your searches from some known small X-to-pi conduit. You won't find as many "new" things that way, but what you do find will be a lot more likely to be useful for the Elementary Conduits Collection.

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### Re: The Hunting of the Elementary Conduits

This elementary conduit, HRx32B

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``````x = 16, y = 14, rule = LifeHistory
.2A11.2A\$2.A10.A.A\$2.A.AB7.A\$3.2AB6.2A\$5.3B.2B\$5.7B2A\$3.8BA.A\$.10B.A\$
.2BC6B3.3A\$3BCBC4B5.A\$.2B3C4B\$.BDBDC4B\$2.3D4B\$3.D!
``````
now has a connection: (Fx77 + Lx219):

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``````x = 64, y = 47, rule = LifeHistory
12.B32.2A\$10.5B29.B2AB6.A\$9.6B7.2A20.3B6.A.A\$9.2B3C2B6.A22.B.B5.A.A\$
9.2BC4B3.BA.A20.5B4.2A.2A\$9.B3C4B2.B2A20.6B5.B\$9.11B18.10B3.B2AB4A\$9.
11B15.12B.2B.B2A.A2.A\$9.11B13.19B\$10.11B11.20B\$10.2B.7B13.18B\$9.11B
13.19B\$9.10B16.17B\$7.12B16.18B\$5.13B6.2A10.16B\$4.17B2.B2AB8.19B2.2B\$
4.18B2.3B8.24BD\$2.2AB.13B2A2B2.2B8.24BDBD\$.A.AB3.4B.6B2AB2.4B6.25B3DB
\$.A8.B4.8B.5B2.30BD\$2A15.43B\$16.37B.B\$16.34B\$17.34B6.A3.2A\$17.33B6.A.
A3.A\$16.36B4.2A3.A\$9.A6.37B7.A\$9.3A4.4B2D31B3.5A.A\$12.A2.2B3DB2D30B3.
A4.A.A\$11.2A2.4B3D31B5.A2.A.A\$11.7B3D31B5.2A3.A\$13.38B\$13.38B\$14.8B.
2B2A22B\$13.8B4.2A2B5.16B\$13.4B10.B6.17B\$14.BA18.17B\$12.A.A.A18.15B\$
10.3A.2A.A18.12B\$9.A7.A18.14B\$9.2A6.2A15.2AB4.2B2.B.B2A.A\$33.A.AB4.3B
3.B2AB3A\$33.A7.B2AB4.B4.A\$32.2A8.2A4.2A.3A\$49.A.A\$49.A.A\$50.A!
``````
This is also a G24, but unfortunately Conduit 1 doesn't let the other glider escape.

EDIT: Here is a way to get a pi out. Unfortunately, this doesn't seem to connect to anything.

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``````x = 64, y = 72, rule = LifeHistory
18.B\$16.5B\$7.2A7.6B\$8.A6.2B3C2B\$8.A.AB3.4BC2B\$9.2AB2.4B3CB\$11.11B\$11.
11B\$11.11B\$10.11B\$11.7B.2B\$11.11B\$12.10B\$12.12B\$13.13B\$10.17B\$9.19B.
2B\$8.2B2A16B3DB\$9.B2A6B.4B.6BDB\$8.8B4.B3.4B3DB\$8.6B10.7B\$8.7B9.7B\$9.
6B7.2AB.6B\$8.6B7.A.AB4.4B\$9.5B7.A8.4B\$9.6B3.2A.A9.4B10.2A\$9.6B3.A.2A.
2A7.4B8.B2AB6.A\$9.6B7.A.A8.4B7.3B6.A.A\$9.2B3D2B6.A11.4B7.B.B5.A.A\$9.
2BD4B3.BA.A12.4B4.5B4.2A.2A\$9.B3D4B2.B2A14.4B2.6B5.B\$9.11B17.11B3.B2A
B4A\$9.11B15.12B.2B.B2A.A2.A\$9.11B13.19B\$10.11B11.20B\$10.2B.7B13.18B\$
9.11B13.19B\$9.10B16.17B\$7.12B16.18B\$5.13B6.2A10.16B\$4.17B2.B2AB8.19B
2.2B\$4.18B2.3B8.24BD\$2.2AB.13B2A2B2.2B8.24BDBD\$.A.AB3.4B.6B2AB2.4B6.
25B3DB\$.A8.B4.8B.5B2.30BD\$2A15.43B\$16.37B.B.2B\$16.34B6.3B\$17.34B6.A2B
.2A\$17.33B6.A.A2B.A\$16.36B4.2AB2.A\$9.A6.37B7.A\$9.3A4.4B2D31B3.5A.A\$
12.A2.2B3DB2D30B3.A4.A.A\$11.2A2.4B3D31B5.A2.A.A\$11.7B3D31B5.2A3.A\$13.
38B\$13.38B\$14.8B.2B2A22B\$13.8B4.2A2B5.16B\$13.4B10.B6.17B\$14.BA18.17B\$
12.A.A.A18.15B\$10.3A.2A.A18.12B\$9.A7.A18.14B\$9.2A6.2A15.2AB4.2B2.B.B
2A.A\$33.A.AB4.3B3.B2AB3A\$33.A7.B2AB4.B4.A\$32.2A8.2A4.2A.3A\$49.A.A\$49.
A.A\$50.A!
``````
EDIT: An oversized H-to-G9.

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``````x = 64, y = 79, rule = LifeHistory
13.B\$11.5B\$10.6B\$10.2B3C2B\$10.2BC4B.2B\$10.B3C7B\$10.13B\$10.14B\$10.14B\$
11.14B\$14.10B\$13.10B4.2A\$5.B3.B.10B6.A\$4.19B.BA.A\$2.B.19B.B2A\$.2A22B\$
.2A22B\$2.23B\$2.23B\$4.22B\$5.11B2.8B\$3.13B3.5B\$3.2AB.8B4.6B\$4.A2.8B5.B.
4B\$.3A3.8B8.4B\$.A6.6B10.4B\$2.2A4.6B11.4B\$3.A4.6B12.4B\$3.A.A2.7B12.4B\$
4.2A3.6B13.4B\$8.6B15.4B\$9.5B16.4B\$9.6B16.4B10.2A\$9.6B17.4B8.B2AB6.A\$
9.6B7.2A9.4B7.3B6.A.A\$9.2B3D2B6.A11.4B7.B.B5.A.A\$9.2BD4B3.BA.A12.4B4.
5B4.2A.2A\$9.B3D4B2.B2A14.4B2.6B5.B\$9.11B17.11B3.B2AB4A\$9.11B15.12B.2B
.B2A.A2.A\$9.11B13.19B\$10.11B11.20B\$10.2B.7B13.18B\$9.11B13.19B\$9.10B
16.17B\$7.12B16.18B\$5.13B6.2A10.16B\$4.17B2.B2AB8.19B2.2B\$4.18B2.3B8.
24BD\$2.2AB.13B2A2B2.2B8.24BDBD\$.A.AB3.4B.6B2AB2.4B6.25B3DB\$.A8.B4.8B.
5B2.30BD\$2A15.43B\$16.37B.B\$16.34B\$17.34B6.A3.2A\$17.33B6.A.A3.A\$16.36B
4.2A3.A\$9.A6.37B7.A\$9.3A4.4B2D31B3.5A.A\$12.A2.2B3DB2D30B3.A4.A.A\$11.
2A2.4B3D31B5.A2.A.A\$11.7B3D31B5.2A3.A\$13.38B\$13.38B\$14.8B.2B2A22B\$13.
8B4.2A2B5.16B\$13.4B10.B6.17B\$14.BA18.17B\$12.A.A.A18.15B\$10.3A.2A.A18.
12B\$9.A7.A18.14B\$9.2A6.2A15.2AB4.2B2.B.B2A.A\$33.A.AB4.3B3.B2AB3A\$33.A
7.B2AB4.B4.A\$32.2A8.2A4.2A.3A\$49.A.A\$49.A.A\$50.A!
``````
Bx222 IS MY WORST ENEMY.