## The Hunting of the Elementary Conduits

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affamatodidio
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### Re: The Hunting of the Elementary Conduits

R to G

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x = 30, y = 24, rule = B3/S23
14b2o$16bo$15bo4$2o$bo$bobo21bo$2b2o11bo8bobo$13b3o8bobo$14bo8b2ob2o$22bo2bo2bo$21bobobobobo$22bobobobo$24bobo$2b2o20bo2bo$2bo2bob2o16b2o$3b3obobo$7bobo7b2o$3b5ob3o5bo6b2o$3bo4bo3bo5b3o3b2o$6bobo2b2o7bo$6b2o
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### Re: The Hunting of the Elementary Conduits

affamatodidio wrote:
September 19th, 2022, 3:11 pm
R to G...
That fits very easily after HLx111R, if nothing else, and makes a workable (though very slow to recover) G2 output:

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x = 78, y = 84, rule = LifeHistory
70.2A$57.A7.2A2.A.A$52.2A3.3A5.A3.A4.A$52.2A6.A5.3A.5A$59.2A7.A.A$68. A.A.3A$51.2A16.2A.A2.A$50.A2.A20.2A$51.A.A$49.A.A.A.A$48.A.A.A.A.A$49.A2.A2.A$50.2A.2A8.D$51.A.A8.3D$51.A.A7.BD3B8.2A$52.A6.B.5B8.A.A$
58.9B9.A$56.11B9.2A$56.10B$55.12B$54.14B$54.8BD8B$55.6BD8B2A$55.6B3D 6B2A$54.17B$51.16B$50.16B$50.16B$49.16B$48.20B$48.20B$49.20B$48.22B$46.24B$44.25B$44.2BC13B.10B$43.3BCBC4B.7B2.2B4.2A$44.2B3C4B2.3B.B4.B 4.A$43.5BC4B4.2B2A3.2A4.3A$42.10B4.BA2.A4.A6.A$41.4B12.3A5.A.A$41.3B 22.2A$57.3A$57.A2.A$59.2A37$D.D$2D$.D! There are a number of known conduits that take a G2 glider pair as input, though nothing terribly exciting, I have to admit -- it's hard to make a case for using a G2 signal in most situations, because generally just sending one glider through a syringe or speed tunnel will require less circuitry and recover a whole lot faster. Kazyan Posts: 1247 Joined: February 6th, 2014, 11:02 pm ### Re: The Hunting of the Elementary Conduits A spartan-ish version of HL98B:eater3 -- Code: Select all x = 37, y = 40, rule = LifeHistory 13.4B$14.4B$15.4B$16.4B$17.4B$18.4B$19.4B$20.4B$21.6B$21.7B$21.8B$20.
10B$20.9B$20.9B$19.9B$18.9B$18.D9B3.2A$17.3D8B3.2A$17.DB2D6B$13.16B$12.17B4.A$12.17B3.A.A$13.16B4.A$12.16B6.3A$10.17B9.A$8.19B7.2A$8.2BC 15B8.A$7.3BCBC14B4.BA.A$8.2B3C17B.B2A$7.5BC13B.B2A2B$6.20B.BA.AB$5.
22B2.2A$4.13B2.6B$3.4B2.7B4.5B$2.4B5.B6.A6B$.4B5.3B4.A.A2.B.B2A$4B6.B 2AB3.2A5.BA.A$3B8.2A14.A$2B25.2A$B!
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### Re: The Hunting of the Elementary Conduits

Kazyan wrote:
September 21st, 2022, 5:36 pm
A spartan-ish version of HL98B:eater3 --

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x = 37, y = 40, rule = LifeHistory
13.4B$14.4B$15.4B$16.4B$17.4B$18.4B$19.4B$20.4B$21.6B$21.7B$21.8B$20. 10B$20.9B$20.9B$19.9B$18.9B$18.D9B3.2A$17.3D8B3.2A$17.DB2D6B$13.16B$
12.17B4.A$12.17B3.A.A$13.16B4.A$12.16B6.3A$10.17B9.A$8.19B7.2A$8.2BC
15B8.A$7.3BCBC14B4.BA.A$8.2B3C17B.B2A$7.5BC13B.B2A2B$6.20B.BA.AB$5. 22B2.2A$4.13B2.6B$3.4B2.7B4.5B$2.4B5.B6.A6B$.4B5.3B4.A.A2.B.B2A$4B6.B
2AB3.2A5.BA.A$3B8.2A14.A$2B25.2A$B! I don't know what the eater5 is doing here; it still requires a block to cleanup. Bx222 IS MY WORST ENEMY. Please click here for my own pages. My recent rules: StateInvestigator 3.0 B3-kq4ej5i6ckn7e/S2-i34q6a7 B3-kq4ej5y6c/S2-i34q5e Move the Box Wyirm Posts: 307 Joined: October 29th, 2021, 6:54 pm Location: 30.541634, 47.825445 (on the boat) ### Re: The Hunting of the Elementary Conduits Is there a catalyst that can replace the block? I tried a snake, but the snake fails. Code: Select all x = 11, y = 15, rule = LifeSuper 6.2A$6.2A7$C$C.C$3C$2.C2$9.2A$9.2A!

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x = 36, y = 28, rule = TripleLife
17.G$17.3G$20.G$19.2G11$9.EF$8.FG.GD$8.DGAGF$10.DGD5$2.2G$3.G30.2G$3G
25.2G5.G$G27.G.G.3G$21.2G7.G.G$21.2G7.2G! Bow down to the Herschel C28 Posts: 610 Joined: December 8th, 2020, 12:23 pm Location: WORLD -1 ### Re: The Hunting of the Elementary Conduits Wyirm wrote: October 20th, 2022, 2:07 pm Is there a catalyst that can replace the block? I tried a snake, but the snake fails. Code: Select all x = 11, y = 15, rule = LifeSuper 6.2A$6.2A7$C$C.C$3C$2.C2$9.2A$9.2A!
best i could do was a p10 solution

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x = 21, y = 24, rule = B3/S23
3b2o11b2o$4bo11bo$3bo13bo$3b2o5bo5b2o$6b2obobob2o$b5obobobobob5o$o4bo
bobobobobo4bo$b3obobobobobobob3o$3bob4o3b4obo$4b2o9b2o8$7bo$7bobo$7b3o
$9bo2$16b2o$16b2o! - Christopher D'Agostino adopted father of the U-turner Code: Select all x = 11, y = 15, rule = B3/S23 9bo$8bobo$8bobo$9bo8$b3o$b3o$obo$2o!
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### Re: The Hunting of the Elementary Conduits

Forgot to post these here, 3 useless conduits, all still elementary. RB44P, PB4R, and RR41P

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x = 26, y = 54, rule = LifeSuper
.2A7.2A2.3D$B2AB5.B2AB.D2B7.2A$.4B.B2.B.2B.3DB6.A$2.10B.6B2.BA.A$.19B
.B2A$13B3D6B$B2C12BD6B$2B2C9B3D6B$2BC17B$18B$18B$.11B$3.6B$2.B2A2B$3.
2A6$2.2H$.G2CB$2.HCB$.3C$2.4B$4.2A.A$4.2AB3A$5.B4.A$4.2A.3A$2.A2.A.A$2.2A6$19.A$18.A.A$18.A.A$2.2A7.2A4.2A.3A$.B2AB5.B2AB4.B4.A$2.4B.B2.B. 2B3.2AB3A$3.10B4.2A.A$2.12B.4B$.13B3D$.B2C11BHDB$.2B2C9BH2DB$.2BC11B 2HB$.17B$.10BDBD2B$2.9BDBD$4.5B2.3D$3.B2A2B$4.2A! (Sorry if the second one is already known) Code: Select all x = 36, y = 28, rule = TripleLife 17.G$17.3G$20.G$19.2G11$9.EF$8.FG.GD$8.DGAGF$10.DGD5$2.2G$3.G30.2G$3G 25.2G5.G$G27.G.G.3G$21.2G7.G.G$21.2G7.2G!
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### Re: The Hunting of the Elementary Conduits

Wyirm wrote:
October 24th, 2022, 1:49 pm
Forgot to post these here, 3 useless conduits, all still elementary. RB44P, PB4R, and RR41P

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x = 26, y = 54, rule = LifeSuper
.2A7.2A2.3D$B2AB5.B2AB.D2B7.2A$.4B.B2.B.2B.3DB6.A$2.10B.6B2.BA.A$.19B
.B2A$13B3D6B$B2C12BD6B$2B2C9B3D6B$2BC17B$18B$18B$.11B$3.6B$2.B2A2B$3.
2A6$2.2H$.G2CB$2.HCB$.3C$2.4B$4.2A.A$4.2AB3A$5.B4.A$4.2A.3A$2.A2.A.A$2.2A6$19.A$18.A.A$18.A.A$2.2A7.2A4.2A.3A$.B2AB5.B2AB4.B4.A$2.4B.B2.B. 2B3.2AB3A$3.10B4.2A.A$2.12B.4B$.13B3D$.B2C11BHDB$.2B2C9BH2DB$.2BC11B 2HB$.17B$.10BDBD2B$2.9BDBD$4.5B2.3D$3.B2A2B$4.2A! (Sorry if the second one is already known) A periodic variant of the second one, still useless: Code: Select all x = 15, y = 12, rule = B3/S23Super 3M$2.M6.4O$3M2.2O.O4.O$4.O3.O4.O$4.O4.2O$4.O2.O4.2O$4.O2.O3.O2.O$5.2O
4.O2.O$8.2O4.O$5.O4.O3.O$5.O4.O.2O$6.4O!
\sum_{n=1}^\infty H_n/n^2 = \zeta(3)

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### Re: The Hunting of the Elementary Conduits

pzq_alex wrote:
October 25th, 2022, 6:50 am
Wyirm wrote:
October 24th, 2022, 1:49 pm
Forgot to post these here, 3 useless conduits, all still elementary. RB44P, PB4R, and RR41P

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x = 26, y = 54, rule = LifeSuper
.2A7.2A2.3D$B2AB5.B2AB.D2B7.2A$.4B.B2.B.2B.3DB6.A$2.10B.6B2.BA.A$.19B
.B2A$13B3D6B$B2C12BD6B$2B2C9B3D6B$2BC17B$18B$18B$.11B$3.6B$2.B2A2B$3.
2A6$2.2H$.G2CB$2.HCB$.3C$2.4B$4.2A.A$4.2AB3A$5.B4.A$4.2A.3A$2.A2.A.A$2.2A6$19.A$18.A.A$18.A.A$2.2A7.2A4.2A.3A$.B2AB5.B2AB4.B4.A$2.4B.B2.B. 2B3.2AB3A$3.10B4.2A.A$2.12B.4B$.13B3D$.B2C11BHDB$.2B2C9BH2DB$.2BC11B 2HB$.17B$.10BDBD2B$2.9BDBD$4.5B2.3D$3.B2A2B$4.2A! (Sorry if the second one is already known) A periodic variant of the second one, still useless: Code: Select all x = 15, y = 12, rule = B3/S23Super 3M$2.M6.4O$3M2.2O.O4.O$4.O3.O4.O$4.O4.2O$4.O2.O4.2O$4.O2.O3.O2.O$5.2O
4.O2.O$8.2O4.O$5.O4.O3.O$5.O4.O.2O$6.4O!
That's a PB5P. If a suitable sparker can be found, it would allow this P10 pi hassler, however this sparker doesn't quite work:

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x = 53, y = 34, rule = B3/S23
14b2ob2o$2b2o4bobo3b2ob2o$3bo2b4obo$3bobo5b10o$b2o2b2o2b2o9bo$2bobo2bo bobo2b2o2bo$o2bob3obobobo4b2o$2obo4bo5bo4bo$3bo10bo3bo$3b2o10bob2o2b2o 11b2ob2o$7bobo2bo2b2obo4bo10b2ob2o3bobo4b2o$6bob2o2b3o2bobo3bo17bob4o 2bo$2b2o2bo8bo3bo3bo8b10o5bobo$2bobobob2o2b3o2bobo3bo8bo9b2o2b2o2b2o$
4bo2bobo2bo2b2obo4bo10bo2b2o2bobobo2bobo$3b2o10bob2o2b2o10b2o4bobobob 3obo2bo$3bo10bo3bo6b3o5bo4bo5bo4bob2o$2obo4bo5bo4bo7bo6bo3bo10bo$o2bob
3obobobo4b2o5b3o2b2o2b2obo10b2o$2bobo2bobobo2b2o2bo10bo4bob2o2bo2bobo$
b2o2b2o2b2o9bo8bo3bobo2b3o2b2obo$3bobo5b10o8bo3bo3bo8bo2b2o$3bo2b4obo
17bo3bobo2b3o2b2obobobo$2b2o4bobo3b2ob2o10bo4bob2o2bo2bobo2bo$14b2ob2o
11b2o2b2obo10b2o$34bo3bo10bo$33bo4bo5bo4bob2o$33b2o4bobobob3obo2bo$34b
o2b2o2bobobo2bobo$32bo9b2o2b2o2b2o$32b10o5bobo$41bob4o2bo$34b2ob2o3bob
o4b2o$34b2ob2o! #C [[ PASTET EVERY 10 3 PASTEMODE COPY PASTE b! 25 15 ]] #C [[ PASTET EVERY 10 8 PASTEMODE COPY PASTE b! 27 18 ]] Bx222 IS MY WORST ENEMY. Please click here for my own pages. My recent rules: StateInvestigator 3.0 B3-kq4ej5i6ckn7e/S2-i34q6a7 B3-kq4ej5y6c/S2-i34q5e Move the Box Wyirm Posts: 307 Joined: October 29th, 2021, 6:54 pm Location: 30.541634, 47.825445 (on the boat) ### Re: The Hunting of the Elementary Conduits This R to H with a transparent block is asking for a second transparent block, and an edgy ship eater. Here's the best solution I've found yet for the ship eater: Code: Select all x = 13, y = 9, rule = LifeSuper 11.2C$2C9.2C$.2C$.C4$6.2A$6.2A!
Edit* This is actually just RR56H, my bad.
Last edited by Wyirm on October 29th, 2022, 4:15 pm, edited 1 time in total.

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x = 36, y = 28, rule = TripleLife
17.G$17.3G$20.G$19.2G11$9.EF$8.FG.GD$8.DGAGF$10.DGD5$2.2G$3.G30.2G$3G
25.2G5.G$G27.G.G.3G$21.2G7.G.G$21.2G7.2G! Bow down to the Herschel Entity Valkyrie 2 Posts: 1716 Joined: February 26th, 2019, 7:13 pm Contact: ### Re: The Hunting of the Elementary Conduits Can the boat be replaced with a catalyst to complete this H-to-LWSS? (by #(0(The)((Chewing))(Clown(Fan)))) Code: Select all x = 15, y = 26, rule = B3/S23 13b2o$12bobo$2o11bo$bo$bobo$2b2o7$2bo$2bobo$2b3o$4bo7$11b2o$12bo$9b3o$
9bo!
Also, the TL needs to be suppressed (or turned into a glider).

EDIT: Using a beehive instead of a boat extracts a Herschel. It may be possible to turn the Herschel back into the beehive.

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x = 32, y = 27, rule = B3/S23
13bo$12bobo$12bobo15b2o$2o11bo16bo$bo26bobo$bobo24b2o$2b2o7$2bo$2bobo$2b3o$4bo7$11b2o$12bo$9b3o$9bo!
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### Re: The Hunting of the Elementary Conduits

Here’s something nobody decided to cross post:
Bf99P

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x = 29, y = 28, rule = B3/S23
24bo$23bobo$22bo2bo$23b2o5$21b2o$20bo2bo3b2o$15bo4bobo4b2o$14b3o4bo$
13b2obo5$2b2o$3bo$3o$o5$23bo$23bo$23bo! squareroot12621 Posts: 565 Joined: March 23rd, 2022, 4:53 pm ### Re: The Hunting of the Elementary Conduits AlbertArmStain wrote: November 15th, 2022, 1:38 pm Here’s something nobody decided to cross post: Bf99P Code: Select all x = 29, y = 28, rule = B3/S23 24bo$23bobo$22bo2bo$23b2o5$21b2o$20bo2bo3b2o$15bo4bobo4b2o$14b3o4bo$13b2obo5$2b2o$3bo$3o$o5$23bo$23bo$23bo!
Let's play a game of "Who Let the Glider Out", shall we?

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x = 29, y = 33, rule = B3/S23
24bo$23bobo$22bo2bo$23b2o5$21b2o$20bo2bo3b2o$15bo4bobo4b2o$14b3o4bo$13b
2obo5$2b2o$3bo$3o$o9$24b2o$24bobo$26bo$26b2o!
End of post.

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x = 70, y = 7, rule = B34w/S02-n3
o5bo5b2o15bo6b2o6bo4bobo6bobo$o5b2o4bo7b3o6bo5bo2bo4b2o7bo6bo$o5b2o5b
obo4bobo6bo4bo4bo3b2o4bo2bo3b2o2bo7bo$7bo6b2o4b3o5bo5bo4bo4bo5b2o4b2o 9bobo$28bo6bo2bo28bobo$28bo7b2o29bobo$68bo! [[ THEME Mono ]]

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### Re: The Hunting of the Elementary Conduits

AlbertArmStain wrote:
November 15th, 2022, 1:38 pm
Here’s something nobody decided to cross post:
Bf99P

Code: Select all

x = 29, y = 28, rule = B3/S23
24bo$23bobo$22bo2bo$23b2o5$21b2o$20bo2bo3b2o$15bo4bobo4b2o$14b3o4bo$
13b2obo5$2b2o$3bo$3o$o5$23bo$23bo$23bo! B to G Code: Select all x = 27, y = 13, rule = B3/S23 22bo$21bobo$20bo2bo$21b2o4$o$3o16b2o$3bo14bo2bo3b2o$2b2o9bo4bobo4b2o$12b3o4bo$11b2obo!
edit: smaller

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x = 28, y = 15, rule = B3/S23
23bo$22bobo$21bo2bo$22b2o5$20b2o$19bo2bo3b2o$14bo4bobo4b2o$13b3o4bo$12b
2obo$2o$2o!
- Christopher D'Agostino

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x = 11, y = 15, rule = B3/S23
9bo$8bobo$8bobo$9bo8$b3o$b3o$obo$2o! the U-turner gallery 255P132 can we make a (13,4)c/41 spaceship? qqd Posts: 329 Joined: September 10th, 2022, 4:24 pm ### Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries Is this R-to-G useful?(or some of it's reactions?) Code: Select all x = 21, y = 35, rule = B3/S23 12bo$10b3o$9bo$9b2o5$10b2o$b2o7b2o$2b2o$2bo6$18b2o$18bo$16bobo$16b2o9$16b2o$4b2o10bobo$2bo2bo12bo$bob2o12bo$bo16b3o$2o18bo!
My new p2p:

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x = 20, y = 13, rule = B3/S23
4bo5b2obo$2b3o5bob2o$bo14b2o$bo2b3o4b3o2bobo$2obo3bo2bo3bobobo$3bo3b4o 3bobob2o$3bo3bo2bo3bobobo$4b3o4b3o2bobo$16b2o$4b3o4b3o$4bo2bo3bo2bo$6b obo4bobo$7bo6bo!

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qqd wrote:
November 25th, 2022, 7:11 am
Is this R-to-G useful?(or some of it's reactions?)

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x = 21, y = 35, rule = B3/S23
12bo$10b3o$9bo$9b2o5$10b2o$b2o7b2o$2b2o$2bo6$18b2o$18bo$16bobo$16b2o9$
16b2o$4b2o10bobo$2bo2bo12bo$bob2o12bo$bo16b3o$2o18bo! With HL83R: Code: Select all x = 126, y = 127, rule = LifeHistory 22.D3.D.5D8.3D3.3D2.5D2.3D5.D3.3D$22.2D2.D.D11.D3.D.D3.D3.D3.D3.D3.2D
2.D$22.D.D.D.D15.D.D2.2D3.D7.D2.D.D2.D$22.D2.2D.3D3.5D4.D2.D.D.D3.D6.
D2.D2.D2.4D$22.D3.D.D13.D3.2D2.D3.D5.D3.5D.D3.D$22.D3.D.D12.D4.D3.D3.
D4.D7.D2.D3.D$22.D3.D.5D7.5D2.3D4.D3.5D4.D3.3D4$23.3D2.D3.D8.3D2.5D2.
3D4.D$22.D3.D.D3.D7.D3.D3.D3.D3.D2.2D$22.D5.D3.D11.D3.D7.D3.D$23.3D2. D.D.D.5D4.D4.D6.D4.D$26.D.D.D.D9.D5.D5.D5.D$22.D3.D.2D.2D8.D6.D4.D6.D$23.3D2.D3.D7.5D3.D3.5D2.3D19$35.4B$34.4B$33.4B$32.4B$31.4B$30.4B$29. 4B$28.4B$2A25.4B49.2A25.4B$.A15.A8.4B51.A15.A8.4B$.A.2A10.3A7.4B52.A. 2A10.3A7.4B$2.A2BAB7.A9.4B54.A2BAB7.A9.4B$4.2AB7.2A7.4B57.2AB7.2A7.4B$5.6B.4B6.4B59.6B.4B6.4B$5.9B7.4B60.9B7.4B$4.12B4.4B60.12B4.4B$3.14B 2.4B10.2A48.14B2.4B10.2A$3.14B.4B3.2A6.A49.14B.4B3.2A6.A$3.18B3.B2A2B .BA.A49.18B3.B2A2B.BA.A$3.19B3.4B.B2A50.19B3.4B.B2A$5.27B53.27B$5.27B
6.2A45.27B6.2A$3.27B8.A44.27B8.A$3.2A2B.22B5.BA.A44.2A2B.22B5.BA.A$2. ABA3.22B.3B.B2A44.ABA3.22B.3B.B2A$2.AB4.28B46.AB4.16BD11B$3.A4.28B47. A4.15B3D10B$3A6.26B45.3A6.16BD9B$A11.24B44.A11.24B$12.4B.19B56.4B.19B
$12.4B5.16B55.4B5.16B$13.3B5.16B56.3B5.16B$14.B4.18B54.B2.2B2.19B$19.
2BC15B2.2A49.11BD15B2.2A$18.3BCBC4B.10BA.A44.B2.12BDBD4B.10BA.A$19.2B
3C4B2.4B2A2B3.A43.2EB.B2E9B3D4B2.4B2A2B3.A$18.5BC4B2.3BA2BAB3.2A42.2E 3B2E11BD4B2.3BA2BAB3.2A$17.10B3.4B2AB49.B.19B3.4B2AB$16.4B12.2B.B52. 7B.4B12.2B.B$15.4B12.3B53.7B.4B12.3B$14.4B13.B2AB51.12B13.B2AB$13.4B
15.2A52.11B15.2A$12.4B67.3B.9B$11.4B68.12B$10.4B68.2E11B.2B$9.4B69.2E
13B2E$8.4B71.B.10B.B2E$7.4B74.10B2.B$6.4B76.9B$5.4B76.11B$86.11B$87.
11B$86.13B$85.15B$82.19B$81.2E19B$81.2E15B.4B$82.17B.4B17.E$86.19B14. 3E$87.19B12.E$87.20B11.2E$88.20B8.4B$85.24B6.2EB$85.20B.4B5.E.EB$84. 20B3.4B5.2EB5.2E$83.22B3.4B4.3B5.E$83.24B2.4B3.4B.BE.E$84.30B3.3B.B2E
$82.10B.29B$82.2E4.2B2.7B.22B$83.E4.B4.B.3B2.22B$80.3E4.2E3.2E2B4.21B
$80.E6.E4.E2.EB4.21B$85.E.E5.3E12.4B.9B$85.2E22.4B2.8B$93.3E14.4B2.7B
$92.E2.E15.13B$92.2E18.12B$112.12B$112.12B$112.B3C7B$112.2BC7B$112.2B 3C3B$112.10B$111.7B2.2E$110.4B.B4.E$109.4B8.3E$109.3B11.E$107.2EB$
106.E.EB$106.E$105.2E!
With HLx111R:

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x = 56, y = 80, rule = LifeHistory
9.D3.D.D3.D.5D2.3D2.5D2.3D5.D3.3D$9.2D2.D.D3.D.D5.D3.D3.D3.D3.D3.2D2. D$9.D.D.D.D3.D.D9.D3.D7.D2.D.D2.D$9.D2.2D.D.D.D2.3D4.2D4.D5.2D2.D2.D 2.4D$9.D3.D.D.D.D5.D5.D3.D7.D.5D.D3.D$9.D3.D.2D.2D.D3.D.D3.D3.D3.D3.D 4.D2.D3.D$9.D3.D.D3.D2.3D3.3D4.D4.3D5.D3.3D4$10.3D2.D3.D8.3D2.5D2.3D 4.D$9.D3.D.D3.D7.D3.D3.D3.D3.D2.2D$9.D5.D3.D11.D3.D7.D3.D$10.3D2.D.D.
D.5D4.D4.D6.D4.D$13.D.D.D.D9.D5.D5.D5.D$9.D3.D.2D.2D8.D6.D4.D6.D$10. 3D2.D3.D7.5D3.D3.5D2.3D4$11.4B$12.4B$13.4B$14.4B$15.4B$16.4B$17.4B$18.4B$19.4B25.2A$20.4B8.A15.A$21.4B7.3A10.2A.A$22.4B9.A7.BA2BA$23.4B
7.2A7.B2A$24.4B6.4B.6B$25.4B7.9B$26.4B4.12B$15.2A10.4B2.14B$16.A6.2A 3.4B.14B$16.A.AB.2B2AB3.18B$17.2AB.4B3.19B$18.27B$18.27B$20.27B$20. 22B.2B2A$20.22B3.ABA$22.20B4.BA$21.21B4.A$22.19B6.3A$21.B.15B11.A$20. 9B.3B.4B$18.11B5.4B$18.10B6.3B$17.12B6.B$16.14B$16.17B$17.15B2A$17.
15B2A$16.17B$13.16B$12.16B$12.16B$11.16B$10.20B$10.20B$11.20B$10.22B$
8.24B$6.25B$6.2BC13B.10B$5.3BCBC4B.7B2.2B4.2A$6.2B3C4B2.3B.B4.B4.A$5. 5BC4B4.2B2A3.2A4.3A$4.10B4.BA2.A4.A6.A$3.4B12.3A5.A.A$2.4B22.2A$.4B 14.3A$4B15.A2.A$3B18.2A$2B$B! With BLx19R Code: Select all x = 77, y = 82, rule = LifeHistory 11.D3.D.D3.D2.3D3.3D2.5D.5D2.3D3.3D$11.2D2.D.D3.D.D3.D.D3.D3.D3.D5.D
5.D3.D$11.D.D.D.D3.D.D3.D5.D3.D3.D5.D5.D3.D$11.D2.2D.D.D.D2.3D4.2D4.D
4.3D2.4D3.3D$11.D3.D.D.D.D.D3.D5.D3.D7.D.D3.D.D3.D$11.D3.D.2D.2D.D3.D
.D3.D3.D3.D3.D.D3.D.D3.D$11.D3.D.D3.D2.3D3.3D4.D4.3D3.3D3.3D14$43.4B$44.4B$45.4B$46.4B25.2A$47.4B8.A15.A$48.4B7.3A10.2A.A$49.4B9.A7.BA2BA$50.4B7.2A7.B2A$51.4B6.4B.6B$52.4B7.9B$53.4B4.12B$42.2A10.4B2.14B$43.A
6.2A3.4B.14B$43.A.AB.2B2AB3.18B$44.2AB.4B3.19B$45.27B$45.27B$27.A19. 27B$27.3A7.2A8.22B.2B2A$30.A5.B2AB7.22B3.ABA$29.2A6.3B3.3B3.3BD16B4.B
A$29.5B4.B.7B.3B3D15B4.A$31.17BD2BD16B6.3A$30.19BD15B11.A$18.A11.19B
2D9B.4B$18.3A8.19B2D6B5.4B$21.A8.18BD7B5.3B$20.2A9.14B.7B.3B5.B$20.4B
2.3B4.10B5.B.B3.B2A$22.10B2.9B5.B2AB2.BA.A$20.22B.B5.2A4.B2A$20.24BA 8.4B$19.24BA.A7.2A$18.22B3.BA9.A$18.20B13.3A$19.17B15.A$19.16B$16.14B .B$8.2A6.15B$9.A5.15B$9.A.AB2.15B$10.2AB.15B$12.20B$12.20B$13.20B$12. 22B$10.24B$8.25B$8.2BC13B.10B$7.3BCBC4B.7B2.2B4.2A$8.2B3C4B2.3B.B4.B
4.A$7.5BC4B4.2B2A3.2A4.3A$6.10B4.BA2.A4.A6.A$5.4B12.3A5.A.A$4.4B22.2A
$3.4B14.3A$2.B2AB15.A2.A$.3BA18.2A$B3A$BAB$2B$B! 127:1 B3/S234c User:Confocal/R (incomplete table of INT rules) Unlikely events happen. My silence does not imply agreement, nor indifference. If I disagreed with something in the past, then please do not construe my silence as something that could change that. dvgrn Moderator Posts: 10160 Joined: May 17th, 2009, 11:00 pm Location: Madison, WI Contact: ### Re: The Hunting of the Elementary Conduits confocaloid wrote: November 25th, 2022, 8:16 am qqd wrote: November 25th, 2022, 7:11 am Is this R-to-G useful?(or some of it's reactions?) Code: Select all x = 21, y = 35, rule = B3/S23 12bo$10b3o$9bo$9b2o5$10b2o$b2o7b2o$2b2o$2bo6$18b2o$18bo$16bobo$16b2o9$16b2o$4b2o10bobo$2bo2bo12bo$bob2o12bo$bo16b3o$2o18bo!
With HL83R...
With HLx111R...
With BLx19R...
It certainly seems to be new, at least according to MathAndCode's Elementary Conduits Collection and the lack of any matches on "RSE14T117" -- can someone please do an independent check that I've gotten the systemic name right?

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x = 67, y = 87, rule = LifeHistory
20.4D3.3D2.5D2.D5.D2.5D2.D3.D2.5D$20.D3.D.D3.D.D5.2D4.2D4.D3.2D2.2D6. D$20.D3.D.D5.D6.D3.D.D4.D4.D3.D5.D$20.4D3.3D2.3D4.D2.D2.D4.D4.D3.D4.D$20.D2.D6.D.D6.D2.5D3.D4.D3.D3.D$20.D3.D.D3.D.D6.D5.D4.D4.D3.D2.D$20.
D3.D2.3D2.5D.3D4.D4.D3.3D.3D.D4$18.B$18.2B$18.3B$18.4B6.2A18.A$19.4B 6.A16.3A$20.4B5.A.2A12.A$21.4B5.A2BAB2.4B4.BA$22.4B6.2AB2.5B2.ABA$23. 4B6.11B2A$24.4B5.13B$25.4B5.10B$26.18B$27.17B$28.16B$29.14B$26.18B$25.19B$24.18B.B2A$25.17B.BA.A$28.13B5.A$27.12B7.2A$27.13B$27.14B$C.B
25.14B$.2C24.11B.4B$2C24.11B3.4B$25.5BC6B4.4B$26.4B2C5B.B3.4B$27.2B2C 7B2A3.4B$28.10B2A4.4B$29.10B6.4B$30.B.7B7.4B$32.5B10.4B$35.4B9.4B$34. 3B12.4B$34.B2AB12.4B$35.2A14.4B4$18.B$18.2B$18.3B$18.4B6.2A18.A$19.4B
6.A16.3A$20.4B5.A.2A12.A$21.4B5.A2BAB2.4B4.BA$22.4B6.2AB2.5B2.ABA$23.
4B6.11B2A$24.4B5.13B$25.4B5.10B$26.18B$27.17B$28.16B$29.14B$26.18B$
25.19B$24.18B.B2A$25.17B.BA.A$28.13B5.A$27.12B7.2A$27.13B$27.14B$28. 14B$27.11B.4B$26.11B3.4B$25.5BD6B4.4B$26.4B2D5B.B3.4B$27.2B2D7B2A3.4B
$28.10B2A4.4B$29.10B6.4B$30.B.7B7.4B$32.5B10.4B$35.4B9.4B$34.3B12.4B$34.B2AB12.4B$35.2A14.4B!
The conduit connects well with a fair number of R outputs, and it's a rare SE output for a direct R-to-G. The output is on a transparent lane, which is nearly unheard of -- RSE-3T41 technically qualifies, but it's not really transparent in most cases because the conduit delivering the R will usually get in the way. That's not a problem here, as confocaloid has shown above.

The first two catalyses are known, from RNW16T104 and RSW3T42 (the initial fishhook eater can be replaced by a block). It appears that slmake doesn't currently know how to make the two claw-with-tails (claws-with-tail?). But slsparse is currently getting upgraded, and I suspect that bespoke recipes for those could be added without much trouble.

It also connects to the old G2/G5/G6-to-R Herschel receiver, which could maybe come in handy somewhere sometime:

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x = 83, y = 62, rule = LifeHistory
46.2B$46.3B$46.4B6.2A18.A$47.4B6.A16.3A$48.4B5.A.2A12.A$49.4B5.A2BAB 2.4B4.BA$50.4B6.2AB2.5B2.ABA$51.4B6.11B2A$52.4B5.13B$46.2A5.4B5.10B$
45.B2AB5.18B$45.4B6.17B$46.2B8.16B$44.2A3B8.14B$44.2A5B3.18B$31.2A11. 8B.19B$32.A6.2B5.24B.B2A$32.A.AB2.6B.25B.BA.A$33.2AB.B.30B5.A$29.2A4. 32B7.2A$28.B2AB2.34B$29.3B2.35B$28.B.B2.37B$27.39B.4B$27.38B3.4B$25. 33BD6B4.4B$25.33B2D5B.B3.4B$26.12B2C2B2A8B3.2B2D7B2A3.4B$25.12BCBC2B
2A6B6.10B2A4.4B$26.13BC9B8.10B6.4B$28.B.18B10.B.7B7.4B$29.17B14.5B10. 4B$28.4B.12B18.4B9.4B$27.4B.12B18.3B12.4B$26.4B.11B20.B2AB12.4B$25.4B .11B22.2A14.4B$24.4B.10B$23.4B.4B3.B.B$22.4B.4B3.3B$23.2B.4B4.B2AB$
23.B.4B6.2A$24.4B$23.4B$22.4B$21.4B$20.4B$19.4B$18.4B$17.4B$17.3B10$.
2C$CBC$.BC!

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### Re: The Hunting of the Elementary Conduits

qqd wrote:
November 25th, 2022, 7:11 am
Is this R-to-G useful?(or some of it's reactions?)

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x = 21, y = 35, rule = B3/S23
12bo$10b3o$9bo$9b2o5$10b2o$b2o7b2o$2b2o$2bo6$18b2o$18bo$16bobo$16b2o9$
16b2o$4b2o10bobo$2bo2bo12bo$bob2o12bo$bo16b3o$2o18bo! Nice! A quick search from that starting reaction found this RLx114R: Code: Select all x = 25, y = 32, rule = LifeHistory 16.2A$15.A.A$15.A$14.2A4.2A$14.B4.BA.A$8.2B.4B3.3B.A$8.12BA.2A$7.13B
2A2.A$7.13B3.2A$5.15B$2.5BD12B$.5B3D11B$6BD13B$.18B$4.16B$3.17B$3.17B$3.17B.A$4.15B.A.A$3.15B3.A$2.11B2.2B$.5BE6B$2.4B2E5B.B$3.2B2E7B2A$4. 10B2A$5.10B$6.B.7B$8.5B$11.B$10.3B$10.B2AB$11.2A!
Sample connections:

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x = 68, y = 50, rule = LifeHistory
35.2C$35.C.C$25.C11.3C$24.C.C9.C3.C$25.C10.2CB2C$26.4B.9B$25.14B$24. 14B4.2C$23.15B5.C$19.2C2.15B2.3C$17.2B2CB2.16BC$13.B3.4B3.15B$12.2CB.
23B$12.2C25B$13.2B.24B5.7B.B$16.24B5.13B.B$16.16BD10BD21B$18.3BD10B2D 10BD21BD$17.3B3D8B2D11B2D18B3DB$18.2BD22B2D2B2A15BDBD$17.B.24BD3B2A
15BD$16.9B.3B.4B.19B3.2B2.2B$14.11B5.4B.2B3.B2.10B$14.10B6.3B3.AB6.6B$13.12B6.B3.A.A7.3B$12.14B9.2A8.B$12.17B15.2A$13.15B2A14.A$13.15B2A
15.3A$12.17B18.A$9.16B$8.16B$8.16B$7.16B$6.20B$6.20B$7.20B$6.22B$4.
24B$2.25B$2.2BE13B.10B$.3BEBE4B.7B2.2B4.2A$2.2B3E4B2.3B.B4.B4.A$.5BE 4B4.2B2A3.2A4.3A$10B4.BA2.A4.A6.A$3B12.3A5.A.A$2B22.2A$B14.3A$15.A2.A
$17.2A! Edit: Also this RSW-6T112: Code: Select all x = 29, y = 28, rule = LifeHistory 19.2A$18.A.A$18.BA$19.2B2.2A$18.5BA.A$11.13B.A$8.14B3.A.2A$7.15B2.2A.
2A$6.15B$7.13B$10.11B$9.12B$9.11B$9.11B$9.11B$8.12B$7.12B$6.6BE6B$5. 7B2E5B.B$4.4B.2B2E7B2A$3.4B3.10B2A$2.4B5.10B$.4B7.B.7B$4B10.5B$3B14.B$2B14.3B$B15.B2AB$17.2A!

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### Re: The Hunting of the Elementary Conduits

squareroot12621 wrote:
January 4th, 2023, 10:31 pm
Unidentified→W...
With apologies, I've moved this out of the Elementary Conduits thread because it seems to set a bad precedent. There are many millions of unidentified patterns that turn into W signals with the help of a catalyst or two. But posting them all would seriously damage the thread's ability to store useful information.

If there's a known X-to-"Unidentified" that connects to this conduit, then by all means include that, and we'll turn this into an X-to-W conduit. There just doesn't seem to be any reason to pick that "Unidentified" as a stopping point.

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### Re: The Hunting of the Elementary Conduits

dvgrn wrote:
January 4th, 2023, 11:00 pm
squareroot12621 wrote:
January 4th, 2023, 10:31 pm
Unidentified→W...
With apologies, I've moved this out of the Elementary Conduits thread because it seems to set a bad precedent. There are many millions of unidentified patterns that turn into W signals with the help of a catalyst or two. But posting them all would seriously damage the thread's ability to store useful information.

If there's a known X-to-"Unidentified" that connects to this conduit, then by all means include that, and we'll turn this into an X-to-W conduit. There just doesn't seem to be any reason to pick that "Unidentified" as a stopping point.
Hey dvgrn, just so you know; this is the "Unidentified" in the speed tunnel, which is a G-X - X-H, where X is the unidentified.
squareroot12621's conduit is on the left, speed tunnel is on the right.

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x = 55, y = 24, rule = B3/S23
32b2o$31bobo$31bo$30b2o$29bo8b2o9b2o$29b3o6b2o5b2o2bobo$32bo12bobobo2b
o$11b2o12b2o4b2o14bobob2o$11bo14bo19b2obo$9bobo14bob2o19bob2o$3o6b2o16b
o8b3o10bobo2bo$bobo27bo5bobo4b2o4bo2b2o$3bo35bo3bo2bo$ob2o25b2obo3bob 2o4b2o4bo2b2o$2o29b2o3b2o11bobo2bo$49bob2o$46b2obo$47bobob2o$29b2o14b
obobo2bo$22b2obobo2bo14b2o2bobo$22bob2ob3o19b2o$26bo$26bob2o$27bobo! We need a name for this intermediate; I think it's useful enough to deserve something; maybe "Q"? "Z"? Whatever, we need a name for it so this confusion doesn't happen again. C28 Posts: 610 Joined: December 8th, 2020, 12:23 pm Location: WORLD -1 ### Re: The Hunting of the Elementary Conduits affamatodidio wrote: January 5th, 2023, 8:19 am We need a name for this intermediate; I think it's useful enough to deserve something; maybe "Q"? "Z"? Whatever, we need a name for it so this confusion doesn't happen again. from what i heard, it was named "e9jp" or something. i'm sure a better name is possible though. it does seem to form most commenly from a pi hitting a block a certain way: Code: Select all x = 5, y = 9, rule = B3/S23 2o$2o5$2b3o$2bobo$2bobo! so maybe that could be a start. - Christopher D'Agostino adopted father of the U-turner Code: Select all x = 11, y = 15, rule = B3/S23 9bo$8bobo$8bobo$9bo8$b3o$b3o$obo$2o!
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255P132
can we make a (13,4)c/41 spaceship?

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### Re: The Hunting of the Elementary Conduits

affamatodidio wrote:
January 5th, 2023, 8:19 am
We need a name for this intermediate; I think it's useful enough to deserve something; maybe "Q"? "Z"? Whatever, we need a name for it so this confusion doesn't happen again.
Yes, as C28 mentions, this has actually come up before.

The Pattern Formerly Known As Unidentified now can no longer correctly be referred to as "unidentified", because the identifier "e9jp" has been applied to it. This is probably wishful thinking, but if everyone who has used the completely unworkable name "unidentified" can edit their posts accordingly, that would actually solve the problem.

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### Re: The Hunting of the Elementary Conduits

e9jp is way down the list of common sequences. I would say it's not worth it to give it a single letter.
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Periods discovered: 5-16,⑱,⑳G,㉑G,㉒㉔㉕,㉗-㉛,㉜SG,㉞㉟㊱㊳㊵㊷㊹㊺㊽㊿,54G,55G,56,57G,60,62-66,68,70,73,74S,75,76S,80,84,88,90,96
100,02S,06,08,10,12,14G,16,17G,20,26G,28,38,47,48,54,56,72,74,80,92,96S
217,486,576

S: SKOP
G: gun

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### Re: The Hunting of the Elementary Conduits

hotdogPi wrote:
January 5th, 2023, 8:33 am
e9jp is way down the list of common sequences. I would say it's not worth it to give it a single letter.
Agreed. Four letters seems about right to me...

With apologies again, I've moved this discussion back to the Elementary Conduits thread, now that I understand what it's about.

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### Re: The Hunting of the Elementary Conduits

affamatodidio wrote:
January 5th, 2023, 8:19 am
We need a name for this intermediate; I think it's useful enough to deserve something; maybe "Q"? "Z"? Whatever, we need a name for it so this confusion doesn't happen again.
I'll say N, since U is already used for U-turner.
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