Spaceship Discussion Thread

wwei23 · Post by **wwei23** » September 20th, 2020, 1:13 pm

dvgrn wrote: ↑
September 20th, 2020, 1:10 pm

Your blueprint above has highway robbers in it, but I"m not sure what they would be good for in your design, because they can't do anything with a single-channel recipe with gliders 90-some ticks apart.

Glide-reflection forces the input and output lanes to be 1hd apart, so I have to use a highway robber or some other kind of reflector with a transparent lane right next to its input lane. In other words, it can be on both sides of the input, as long as it doesn't block the output.

dvgrn wrote: ↑
September 20th, 2020, 1:10 pm

wwei23 wrote: ↑
September 20th, 2020, 11:54 am
Edit: How do I sryinge when slow-salvo-ing?
Not sure what that question means.

It means "How do I build a syringe with a slow salvo?".

Post by **dvgrn** » September 20th, 2020, 2:14 pm

wwei23 wrote: ↑
September 20th, 2020, 1:13 pm
Glide-reflection forces the input and output lanes to be 1hd apart, so I have to use a highway robber or some other kind of reflector with a transparent lane right next to its input lane. In other words, it can be on both sides of the input, as long as it doesn't block the output.

But these inputs and outputs are where the full single-channel recipe will be routed, correct? Then you can't use the highway robber in your sample pattern, because it has a repeat time much much higher than 90 ticks.

Also if the input overlaps the output too soon, you're going to have serious problems. By "1hd apart", do you mean "1fd apart" -- one full diagonal, (1,1)? If you can wait until the complete "input" recipe goes by in one direction, then you can probably just use an edge-shooter to insert it back onto the overlapping output lane 1fd away from the input lane. An NW31 should be fine for that.

wwei23 wrote: ↑
September 20th, 2020, 1:13 pm
"How do I build a syringe with a slow salvo?".

Not to worry, slsparse will compile it for you, as long as you use the variant that you'll see in every existing Demonoid and Orthogonoid and so on -- just a regular eater2 instead of the standard complex syringe catalyst, and the syringe followed by a dependent Lx200 conduit, to maintain a 90-tick repeat time and avoid sending the output Herschel's first natural glider back to hit the eater2.

wwei23 · Post by **wwei23** » September 20th, 2020, 2:27 pm

dvgrn wrote: ↑
September 20th, 2020, 2:14 pm

wwei23 wrote: ↑
September 20th, 2020, 1:13 pm
Glide-reflection forces the input and output lanes to be 1hd apart, so I have to use a highway robber or some other kind of reflector with a transparent lane right next to its input lane. In other words, it can be on both sides of the input, as long as it doesn't block the output.
But these inputs and outputs are where the full single-channel recipe will be routed, correct? Then you can't use the highway robber in your sample pattern, because it has a repeat time much much higher than 90 ticks.

Also if the input overlaps the output too soon, you're going to have serious problems. By "1hd apart", do you mean "1fd apart" -- one full diagonal, (1,1)? If you can wait until the complete "input" recipe goes by in one direction, then you can probably just use an edge-shooter to insert it back onto the overlapping output lane 1fd away from the input lane. An NW31 should be fine for that.

The highway robber is a stand-in since I don't know of any other patterns that can do that trick at all.
And I do mean 1hd apart. It'll become 1fd total after the entire cycle repeats. Also, I can move the three parts of the sample pattern as far away as I need to move them, to make more time for reconstruction.
Edit: Found a way to get rid of the highway robber.