Spaceship Discussion Thread

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Re: Spaceship Discussion Thread

Post by Entity Valkyrie 2 » November 16th, 2020, 9:35 pm

EV2Quadcolor was actually meant as a way of marking 4-color Colorized Life (Quadlife), and not a replacement for LifeSuper.
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Re: Spaceship Discussion Thread

Post by bubblegum » November 16th, 2020, 9:45 pm

Entity Valkyrie 2 wrote:
November 16th, 2020, 9:35 pm
EV2Quadcolor was actually meant as a way of marking 4-color Colorized Life (Quadlife), and not a replacement for LifeSuper.
I only used LifeSuper because it supported that many states. But could you please use LifeSuper or (better) LifeHistory in the future when EV2Quadcolor isn't absolutely necessary&
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Re: Spaceship Discussion Thread

Post by wwei23 » November 16th, 2020, 9:47 pm

Entity Valkyrie 2 wrote:
November 16th, 2020, 9:22 pm
By the way, these red "gliders" don't count, because if isolated they don't move in the same direction as the ship.

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x = 32, y = 32, rule = EV2Quadcolor
7.A$4.2A.2A$3.A5.3A$2.A5.4A$.A2.2A3.2A7.2A$.A2.A.3A8.2A$5.A2.A.4A4.A$
2A3.A6.A3.B$.A.A.2A6.A.B3.A$2.3A10.3B.A$2.3A.A$2.2A2.A12.A$6.2A10.3A$
6.A.A9.2A$19.A$8.2B10.2A$7.B.B11.A7.3A$5.A3.B12.A4.2A.2A$4.3A5.2A7.A
2.A.A$4.A3.2A.4A10.A.2A$12.A2.A6.A.A$15.2A.A5.A$17.A2.A3.2A$24.2A$18.
A.4A$19.A2.2A$18.A$17.A.A$17.A.A$16.A$16.2A$16.2A!
Yes, but these do. :P

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x = 32, y = 32, rule = Immigration
6.3A$4.A.5A$3.2A2.A3.A$2.3A3.A$.6A4.A5.3B$4.A.3A3.A4.B$2A2.2A2.2A.3A
4.B$3A2.A8.A$2A.A.2A7.2A.2A$.A4.A7.3A.A$.A14.A.A$2.A.A.A11.3A$5.2A13.
A$6.A$7.3A8.2A$8.2A10.2A8.A$9.2A9.3A5.2A.A$4.2B2.A12.2A4.2A2.A$4.B.B.
4A2.A10.2A2.A$4.B6.A2.A8.5A$11.2A2.2A6.3A$15.3A6.A$16.2A5.A$19.2A.A2.
A$19.3A$18.3A2.A$18.2A$17.A.A$16.2A$16.A.A$15.A$16.2A!
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Re: Spaceship Discussion Thread

Post by Entity Valkyrie 2 » November 16th, 2020, 9:59 pm

Yes, these do, since they move in the same direction as the ship and at the same speed.
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Re: Spaceship Discussion Thread

Post by wwei23 » November 16th, 2020, 10:31 pm

Anyways, I've been grinding away at LaundryPizza03's partial's frontend with JLS, hoping for a completion. JLS is ridiculously fast for diagonal ships (Compare width-13 asymmetric c/6d and width-11 asymmetric c/6o), but it's being slowed down greatly by the ridiculous number of ways to put gliders around a partial without any interaction :(
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Re: Spaceship Discussion Thread

Post by Hunting » November 17th, 2020, 12:52 am

bubblegum wrote:
November 16th, 2020, 9:31 pm
EV2Quadcolor is pointless, slow, confusing and generally inferior.
Slow? It is much faster than LS. I like EQC for this purpose.
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Re: Spaceship Discussion Thread

Post by Entity Valkyrie 2 » November 17th, 2020, 3:39 am

What even is EQC
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Post by JP21 » November 17th, 2020, 6:26 am

Entity Valkyrie 2 wrote:
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What even is EQC
An abbreviation of EV2Quadcolor which is an abbreviation of Entity Valkyrie 2 Quadruple color.

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Re: Spaceship Discussion Thread

Post by bubblegum » November 17th, 2020, 12:48 pm

Hunting wrote:
November 17th, 2020, 12:52 am
bubblegum wrote:
November 16th, 2020, 9:31 pm
EV2Quadcolor is pointless, slow, confusing and generally inferior.
Slow? It is much faster than LS. I like EQC for this purpose.
Sorry, I was talking about in LifeViewer, because what kind of sane person copies these kinds of patterns into Golly?
Besides, LifeSuper is still faster than EQC in Golly for me (Golly 4.x while you're using 3.x according to your signature).
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Re: Spaceship Discussion Thread

Post by Hunting » November 18th, 2020, 1:14 am

bubblegum wrote:
November 17th, 2020, 12:48 pm
Hunting wrote:
November 17th, 2020, 12:52 am
bubblegum wrote:
November 16th, 2020, 9:31 pm
EV2Quadcolor is pointless, slow, confusing and generally inferior.
Slow? It is much faster than LS. I like EQC for this purpose.
Sorry, I was talking about in LifeViewer, because what kind of sane person copies these kinds of patterns into Golly?
Besides, LifeSuper is still faster than EQC in Golly for me (Golly 4.x while you're using 3.x according to your signature).
I was talking about LifeViewer. LifeSuper patterns runs at 5s per generation for me, while EQC is fine.
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Re: Spaceship Discussion Thread

Post by wwei23 » November 18th, 2020, 1:39 am

On my phone, LifeSuper and EV2QuadColor both run well for me, but EV2QuadColor runs a bit faster.
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#C depth = 270
#C breadth = 11
#CLL state-numbering golly
x = 54, y = 55, rule = B3/S23
5b2o$3b2o2bo2$4b2o$bo2bo$2obo$4bo2$5b3o$6bo2b4o$5bo4b2obo$5b7o$7b
2o3bo$13bo2b3o$13bo3b2o$12b2obo2b2o$11bo3bo$15b2obobo$13bob3obo$
13b3obobob2obo$21bo2bo$16bo5bo2bo$15b3o6bo$15b2o$17bo4b2o$23b2o$
25b2o$23bo2b2o$27b4o$31bo$26b2obo$26bo$27b4o3b3o$28bobo3bobo$32b2o
2b2o$32bo3b2o$32b4obobo$34b3o$38b3o$36b2o$37b2o$37b3o3b2o$37bob3ob
2o$37bobo4b3o$38b2o2bo2bobo$39bo7bo2b2o$40b2o6bobo$41b2o5bob2o$45b
o2bo2b3o$44b2obo3b2o$44b2o4b2o$44b2o3b2o$48bo$47b2o$47bo!
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Re: Spaceship Discussion Thread

Post by HartmutHolzwart » November 23rd, 2020, 10:03 am

Just a short update on quarter max. This is how far I could seperate the different sub tasks. Still no idea on the last step:

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x = 289, y = 449, rule = B3/S23
61$209bo7b2o$209bobo6bo$209bob2o5b2o$209bobobo$209bobob2o$209bobo3bo$
209bo$209bob2ob2o$209bo$209bo2bo3b3o$209bobo6bo$209bob2o$200bo4b2o2bob
o6b2o$199bob3o3bobobob2o$175bo22bobo2b4o2bobob2o$174b3o6bo14bo2bobo5bo
2bobo$174bob2o4b3o5bo6b4o3b4obob2ob2o$175b3o3bo2b2o3b3o9b2o6bo$175b3o
3b2o2bo2bo2b2o2bo4bo3b4obob3ob3o$175b3obo3bobo6bob2ob2o2b4o2bobo7b2o$
175b2o2bo3bobobob2o8b2o3bob2obobo6bo$179bo5bobobo6bobo2b3o3bobob2o5b2o
$181bo18bo4b2o2bobobo$199bob3o3bobobob2o$175bo22bobo2b4o2bobo3bo$174b
3o6bo14bo2bobo5bo$174bob2o4b3o5bo6b4o3b4obob2ob2o$175b3o3bo2b2o3b3o9b
2o6bo$175b3o3b2o2bo2bo2b2o2bo4bo3b4obo2bo3b3o$175b3obo3bobo6bob2ob2o2b
4o2bobobo6bo$175b2o2bo3bobobob2o8b2o3bob2obob2o$179bo5bobobo6bobo2b3o
3bobobo6b2o$181bo18bo4b2o2bobob2o$199bob3o3bobobob2o$175bo22bobo2b4o2b
o2bobo$174b3o6bo14bo2bobo5bob2ob2o$174bob2o4b3o5bo6b4o3b4obo$175b3o3bo
2b2o3b3o9b2o6bob3ob3o$175b3o3b2o2bo2bo2b2o2bo4bo3b4obo7b2o$175b3obo3bo
bo6bob2ob2o2b4o2bobobo6bo$175b2o2bo3bobobob2o8b2o3bob2obob2o5b2o$179bo
5bobobo6bobo2b3o3bobobobo$181bo18bo4b2o2bobob2o$199bob3o3bobobo3bo$
175bo22bobo2b4o2bo$174b3o6bo14bo2bobo5bob2ob2o$174bob2o4b3o5bo6b4o3b4o
bo$175b3o3bo2b2o3b3o9b2o6bo2bo3b3o$175b3o3b2o2bo2bo2b2o2bo4bo3b4obobo
6bo$175b3obo3bobo6bob2ob2o2b4o2bobob2o$175b2o2bo3bobobob2o8b2o3bob2obo
bo6b2o$179bo5bobobo6bobo2b3o3bobobob2o$181bo18bo4b2o2bobob2o$199bob3o
3bobo2bobo$175bo22bobo2b4o2bob2ob2o$174b3o6bo14bo2bobo5bo$174bob2o4b3o
5bo6b4o3b4obob3ob3o$175b3o3bo2b2o3b3o9b2o6bo7b2o$175b3o3b2o2bo2bo2b2o
2bo4bo3b4obobo6bo$175b3obo3bobo6bob2ob2o2b4o2bobob2o5b2o$175b2o2bo3bob
obob2o8b2o3bob2obobobo$179bo5bobobo6bobo2b3o3bobobob2o$181bo18bo4b2o2b
obo3bo$199bob3o3bobo$175bo22bobo2b4o2bob2ob2o$174b3o6bo14bo2bobo5bo$
174bob2o4b3o5bo6b4o3b4obo2bo3b3o$175b3o3bo2b2o3b3o9b2o6bobo6bo$175b3o
3b2o2bo2bo2b2o2bo4bo3b4obob2o$175b3obo3bobo6bob2ob2o2b4o2bobobo6b2o$
175b2o2bo3bobobob2o8b2o3bob2obobob2o$179bo5bobobo6bobo2b3o3bobobob2o$
181bo18bo4b2o2bo2bobo$199bob3o3bobob2ob2o$175bo22bobo2b4o2bo$174b3o6bo
14bo2bobo5bob3ob3o$174bob2o4b3o5bo6b4o3b4obo7b2o$175b3o3bo2b2o3b3o9b2o
6bobo6bo$175b3o3b2o2bo2bo2b2o2bo4bo3b4obob2o5b2o$175b3obo3bobo6bob2ob
2o2b4o2bobobobo$175b2o2bo3bobobob2o8b2o3bob2obobob2o$179bo5bobobo6bobo
2b3o3bobobo3bo$181bo18bo4b2o2bo$199bob3o3bobob2ob2o$175bo22bobo2b4o2bo
$174b3o6bo14bo2bobo5bo2bo3b3o$174bob2o4b3o5bo6b4o3b4obobo6bo$175b3o3bo
2b2o3b3o9b2o6bob2o$175b3o3b2o2bo2bo2b2o2bo4bo3b4obobo6b2o$175b3obo3bob
o6bob2ob2o2b4o2bobobob2o$175b2o2bo3bobobob2o8b2o3bob2obobob2o$179bo5bo
bobo6bobo2b3o3bobo2bobo$181bo18bo4b2o2bob2ob2o$199bob3o3bobo$175bo22bo
bo2b4o2bob3ob3o$174b3o6bo14bo2bobo5bo7b2o$174bob2o4b3o5bo6b4o3b4obobo
6bo$175b3o3bo2b2o3b3o9b2o6bob2o5b2o$175b3o3b2o2bo2bo2b2o2bo4bo3b4obobo
bo$175b3obo3bobo6bob2ob2o2b4o2bobobob2o$175b2o2bo3bobobob2o8b2o3bob2ob
obo3bo$179bo5bobobo6bobo2b3o3bobo$181bo18bo4b2o2bob2ob2o$199bob3o3bobo
$175bo22bobo2b4o2bo2bo3b3o$174b3o6bo14bo2bobo5bobo6bo$174bob2o4b3o5bo
6b4o3b4obob2o$175b3o3bo2b2o3b3o9b2o6bobo6b2o$175b3o3b2o2bo2bo2b2o2bo4b
o3b4obobob2o$175b3obo3bobo6bob2ob2o2b4o2bobobob2o$175b2o2bo3bobobob2o
8b2o3bob2obo2bobo$179bo5bobobo6bobo2b3o3bobob2ob2o$181bo18bo4b2o2bo$
199bob3o3bobob3ob3o$175bo22bobo2b4o2bo7b2o$174b3o6bo14bo2bobo5bobo6bo$
174bob2o4b3o5bo6b4o3b4obob2o5b2o$175b3o3bo2b2o3b3o9b2o6bobobo$175b3o3b
2o2bo2bo2b2o2bo4bo3b4obobob2o$175b3obo3bobo6bob2ob2o2b4o2bobobo3bo$
175b2o2bo3bobobob2o8b2o3bob2obo$179bo5bobobo6bobo2b3o3bobob2ob2o$181bo
18bo4b2o2bo$199bob3o3bobo2bo3b3o$175bo22bobo2b4o2bobo6bo$174b3o6bo14bo
2bobo5bob2o$174bob2o4b3o5bo6b4o3b4obobo6b2o$175b3o3bo2b2o3b3o9b2o6bobo
b2o$175b3o3b2o2bo2bo2b2o2bo4bo3b4obobob2o$175b3obo3bobo6bob2ob2o2b4o2b
obo2bobo$175b2o2bo3bobobob2o8b2o3bob2obob2ob2o$179bo5bobobo6bobo2b3o3b
obo$181bo18bo4b2o2bob3ob3o$199bob3o3bobo7b2o$175bo22bobo2b4o2bobo6bo$
174b3o6bo14bo2bobo5bob2o5b2o$174bob2o4b3o5bo6b4o3b4obobobo$175b3o3bo2b
2o3b3o9b2o6bobob2o$175b3o3b2o2bo2bo2b2o2bo4bo3b4obobobobo$175b3obo3bob
o6bob2ob2o2b4o2bobobobob2o$175b2o2bo3bobobob2o8b2o3bob2obobobobobo$
179bo5bobobo6bobo2b3o3bobobobobob2o$181bo18bo4b2o2bobobobobobo$199bob
3o3bobobobobobob2o$175bo22bobo2b4o2bobobobobobobo$174b3o6bo14bo2bobo5b
obobobobobob2o$174bob2o4b3o5bo6b4o3b4obobobobobobobobo$175b3o3bo2b2o3b
3o9b2o6bobobobobobobob2o$175b3o3b2o2bo2bo2b2o2bo4bo3b4obobobobobobobob
obo$175b3obo3bobo6bob2ob2o2b4o2bobobobobobobobo3b2o$175b2o2bo3bobobob
2o8b2o3bob2obobobobobobobobo3bo$179bo5bobobo6bobo2b3o3bobobobobobobo4b
o$181bo18bo4b2o2bobobobobobo6b2o$199bob3o3bobobobobobobob2o$175bo22bob
o2b4o2bobobobobobobob2o$174b3o6bo14bo2bobo5bobobobobobobo3bo$174bob2o
4b3o5bo6b4o3b4obobobobobobobobo2b2o$175b3o3bo2b2o3b3o9b2o6bobobobobobo
bobo3bo$175b3o3b2o2bo2bo2b2o2bo4bo3b4obobobobobobobobob3o$175b3obo3bob
o6bob2ob2o2b4o2bobobobobobobobobo3b2o$175b2o2bo3bobobob2o8b2o3bob2obob
obobobobobo$179bo5bobobo6bobo2b3o3bobobobobobobobo$181bo18bo4b2o2bobob
obobobob2o$199bob3o3bobobobobobobo$175bo22bobo2b4o2bobobobobobob2o4b3o
$174b3o6bo14bo2bobo5bobobobobobo2bo4bo2bo$174bob2o4b3o5bo6b4o3b4obobob
obobobob2o4bo$175b3o3bo2b2o3b3o9b2o6bobobobobobo7bo$175b3o3b2o2bo2bo2b
2o2bo4bo3b4obobobobobobo2b2o4bobo$175b3obo3bobo6bob2ob2o2b4o2bobobobob
obobobo2b2ob3o$175b2o2bo3bobobob2o8b2o3bob2obobobobobobobo5bo$179bo5bo
bobo6bobo2b3o3bobobobobobobobo5bo$181bo18bo4b2o2bobobobobobo5bo7b3o$
199bob3o3bobobobobobobobobo2bo2bo3bo2bo$175bo22bobo2b4o2bobobobobobob
2o3b2ob2o2bo$174b3o6bo14bo2bobo5bobobobobobob2o4bo5bo3bo$174bob2o4b3o
5bo6b4o3b4obobobobobobo7bo2bo2bo$175b3o3bo2b2o3b3o9b2o6bobobobobobo2bo
3bo7bobo$175b3o3b2o2bo2bo2b2o2bo4bo3b4obobobobobobobo7bo$175b3obo3bobo
6bob2ob2o2b4o2bobobobobobobobobo3bo$175b2o2bo3bobobob2o8b2o3bob2obobob
obobobob2o$179bo5bobobo6bobo2b3o3bobobobobobobob2o$181bo18bo4b2o2bobob
obobobo$199bob3o3bobobobobobobo2bo$198bobo2b4o2bobobobobobobo$198bo2bo
bo5bobobobobobobobo$197b4o3b4obobobobobobob2o$196bo4b2o6bobobobobobob
2o$196b5o3b4obobobobobobo$194bo6b4o2bobobobobobobo2bo$194b7o3bob2obobo
bobobobobo$192bo8b3o3bobobobobobobobobo$192b9o4b2o2bobobobobobob2o$
190bo10b3o3bobobobobobobob2o$190b11o2b4o2bobobobobobo$188bo12bobo5bobo
bobobobo2bo$188b13o3b4obobobobobobobo$186bo14b2o6bobobobobobobobo$186b
15o3b4obobobobobobob2o$184bo16b4o2bobobobobobobob2o$184b17o3bob2obobob
obobobo$182bo18b3o3bobobobobobobo2bo$182b19o4b2o2bobobobobobobo$180bo
20b3o3bobobobobobobobobo$180b21o2b4o2bobobobobobob2o$178bo22bobo5bobob
obobobob2o$178b23o3b4obobobobobobo$176bo24b2o6bobobobobobo2bo$176b25o
3b4obobobobobobobo$174bo26b4o2bobobobobobobobobo$174b27o3bob2obobobobo
bobob2o$172bo28b3o3bobobobobobobob2o$172b29o4b2o2bobobobobobo$170bo30b
3o3bobobobobobobo2bo$170b31o2b4o2bobobobobobobo$168bo32bobo5bobobobobo
bobobo$168b33o3b4obobobobobobob2o$166bo34b2o6bobobobobobob2o$166b35o3b
4obobobobobobo$164bo36b4o2bobobobobobobo2bo$164b37o3bob2obobobobobobob
o$162bo38b3o3bobobobobobobobobo$162b39o4b2o2bobobobobobob2o$160bo40b3o
3bobobobobobobob2o$160b41o2b4o2bobobobobobo$158bo42bobo5bobobobobobo2b
o$158b43o3b4obobobobobobobo$156bo44b2o6bobobobobobobobo$156b45o3b4obob
obobobobob2o$154bo46b4o2bobobobobobobob2o$154b47o3bob2obobobobobobo$
152bo48b3o3bobobobobobobo2bo$152b49o4b2o2bobobobobobobo$150bo50b3o3bob
obobobobobobobo$150b51o2b4o2bobobobobobob2o$148bo52bobo5bobobobobobob
2o$148b53o3b4obobobobobobo$146bo54b2o6bobobobobobo2bo$146b55o3b4obobob
obobobobo$144bo56b4o2bobobobobobobobobo$144b57o3bob2obobobobobobob2o$
142bo58b3o3bobobobobobobob2o$142b59o4b2o2bobobobobobo$140bo60b3o3bobob
obobobobo2bo$140b61o2b4o2bobobobobobobo$138bo62bobo5bobobobobobobobo$
138b63o3b4obobobobobobob2o$136bo64b2o6bobobobobobob2o$136b65o3b4obobob
obobobo$134bo66b4o2bobobobobobobo2bo$134b67o3bob2obobobobobobobo$132bo
68b3o3bobobobobobobobobo$132b69o4b2o2bobobobobobob2o$130bo70b3o3bobobo
bobobobob2o$130b71o2b4o2bobobobobobo$128bo72bobo5bobobobobobo2bo$128b
73o3b4obobobobobobobo$126bo74b2o6bobobobobobobobo$126b75o3b4obobobobob
obob2o$124bo76b4o2bobobobobobobob2o$124b77o3bob2obobobobobobo$122bo78b
3o3bobobobobobobo2bo$122b79o4b2o2bobobobobobobo18b2o$120bo80b3o3bobobo
bobobobobobo15bo2bo$120b81o2b4o2bobobobobobob2o17b2o$118bo82bobo5bobob
obobobob2o19b3o$118b83o3b4obobobobobobo9b2o9b2o2bo8b2o$116bo84b2o6bobo
bobobobobo7b2o8bo3bo8bo2bob2o$116b85o3b4obobobobobobobo3b2o12b2o5b2o5b
obobobo$114bo86b4o2bobobobobobobobobo5bo5b2o2bo2bo4bo2b3obo2bo2bo$114b
87o3bob2obobobobobo2b2obo2bobobo3bobobob2o5bobo4bobo2b2o$112bo88b3o3bo
bobobobobo6bobo5bobobo3bo5b2o2bobo2bob2o2b2o$112b89o4b2o2bobobob2o3b5o
2b5o4bob2o2b2obo2bobob2o2bo2b2o2bo$76bo33bo90b3o3bobobobo5bo5b2o15b3ob
3o8bo3b3o$73b4o33b91o2b4o2bobobob2o3b5o2b5o4bob2o2b2obo2bobob2o2bo$73b
2o33bo92bobo5bobobobobo6bobo5bobobo3bo5b2o2bobo2bob7o$71bo36b93o3b4obo
bobobobo2b2obo2bobobo3bobobob2o5bobo4bobo6bo$71b4o31bo94b2o6bobobobobo
bobobo5bo5b2o2bo2bo4bo2b3obobobob3o$70bo35b95o3b4obobobobobobobo3b2o
12b2o5b2o5bo3b2obo$69b3o2bo29bo96b4o2bobobobobobobobo7b2o8bo3bo8bo$70b
3o31b97o3bob2obobobobobobo9b2o9b2o2bo7b2o$71bo30bo98b3o3bobobobobobobo
b2o19b3o$72b3obo25b99o4b2o2bobobobobobob2o17b2o$72bo2b2o23bo100b3o3bob
obobobobobobobo15bo2bo$73b3o24b101o2b4o2bobobobobobo5bo14b2o$75bo22bo
102bobo5bobobobobo2b3o3bob2o$73bo24b103o3b4obobobobob2obobo3bob2o$73bo
bo20bo104b2o6bobobobobo2bo3bobo$72bo23b105o3b4obobobobobo2bo3bobo$73bo
bo18bo106b4o2bobobobobob2obo2bo2b2o$73bo20b107o3bob2obobobobobo2bobobo
3bo$75bo17bo107b3o3bobobobobobobobob3ob2o$73b3o16b109o4b2o2bobobobobob
o4bo$72bo2b2o14bo109b3o3bobobobobobob4obo$72b3obo14b110o2b4o2bo2bo3bo
5bob3o$71bo18bo104bo2bo2b2o2bo3bo11bo5bo$70b3o16b104o8bo4b2ob2o11b3obo
$69b3o2bo13bo104bo5bobo3bo3bo2bo11b2o$70bo17b105o4b3ob3o2b2obob2o$71b
4o11bo109bo3bo2b2o2b3o$71bo14b105o6b2obo2b2o2bo2b3o$73b2o9bo106bo6bob
2o3bob3o2bo$73b4obo5b107o7bo5b2o4b2o$76b2obo2bo116bob5o3bo$78b2o2b86ob
20o9b2obo2bo2bobo$79b2o86bobo19bo12b4obobob2o$80b87o3b19o17b2obob2o$
181bo2bo15b4obobobo$78b87o3bo3b8o6b3o11bo2bobobobo$77b2o86bobobobo8b6o
2bo15b2ob2o$76b2ob4o2b4o2b4o2b4o2b4o2b4o2b4o2b4o2b4o2b4o2b4o2b4o2b4o2b
4ob4obobob4ob3obo5bobobo$75b4ob3obo2b2obo2b2obo2b2obo2b2obo2b2obo2b2ob
o2b2obo2b2obo2b2obo2b2obo2b2obo2b2obo2b2o6bobo6b2o2b2o3bo2b2obo$76bobo
bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5b2obobob2o5bo5bobo4bo$77b3o
86b2ob2o11b2ob5ob2o$76bo2b2o82bo4bo4bo5bo6bo2bo2bo$79b3o2bo78bob2obob
2obo6b5o4bobo$79b3o2bo82bobo14bobo3bo$73b2o7bo82bobobobo8b2o3b2o$72b2o
b5ob2o78b2obo2bobo2bob2o4b2o$73b6ob3obo76b2o2bobobobo2b2o$74b3o3bo2b3o
bob2o76bobo$82b2obob2o77bo3bo$80bo9b2o$78b2o2bob3obo2bob2o$78bo4bo2bob
ob2ob2o$78bo3b2o5b3obo$79b3o7b2o!
At least we can now select the best possible point for branching into a front part. This is where I failed.

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Re: Spaceship Discussion Thread

Post by wwei23 » November 23rd, 2020, 10:10 am

The left corner can be completed using halfmax:

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x = 264, y = 413, rule = B3/S23
209bo7b2o$209bobo6bo$209bob2o5b2o$209bobobo$209bobob2o$209bobo3bo$209b
o$209bob2ob2o$209bo$209bo2bo3b3o$209bobo6bo$209bob2o$200bo4b2o2bobo6b
2o$199bob3o3bobobob2o$175bo22bobo2b4o2bobob2o$174b3o6bo14bo2bobo5bo2b
obo$174bob2o4b3o5bo6b4o3b4obob2ob2o$175b3o3bo2b2o3b3o9b2o6bo$175b3o3b
2o2bo2bo2b2o2bo4bo3b4obob3ob3o$175b3obo3bobo6bob2ob2o2b4o2bobo7b2o$175b
2o2bo3bobobob2o8b2o3bob2obobo6bo$179bo5bobobo6bobo2b3o3bobob2o5b2o$181b
o18bo4b2o2bobobo$199bob3o3bobobob2o$175bo22bobo2b4o2bobo3bo$174b3o6bo
14bo2bobo5bo$174bob2o4b3o5bo6b4o3b4obob2ob2o$175b3o3bo2b2o3b3o9b2o6bo
$175b3o3b2o2bo2bo2b2o2bo4bo3b4obo2bo3b3o$175b3obo3bobo6bob2ob2o2b4o2b
obobo6bo$175b2o2bo3bobobob2o8b2o3bob2obob2o$179bo5bobobo6bobo2b3o3bob
obo6b2o$181bo18bo4b2o2bobob2o$199bob3o3bobobob2o$175bo22bobo2b4o2bo2b
obo$174b3o6bo14bo2bobo5bob2ob2o$174bob2o4b3o5bo6b4o3b4obo$175b3o3bo2b
2o3b3o9b2o6bob3ob3o$175b3o3b2o2bo2bo2b2o2bo4bo3b4obo7b2o$175b3obo3bob
o6bob2ob2o2b4o2bobobo6bo$175b2o2bo3bobobob2o8b2o3bob2obob2o5b2o$179bo
5bobobo6bobo2b3o3bobobobo$181bo18bo4b2o2bobob2o$199bob3o3bobobo3bo$175b
o22bobo2b4o2bo$174b3o6bo14bo2bobo5bob2ob2o$174bob2o4b3o5bo6b4o3b4obo$
175b3o3bo2b2o3b3o9b2o6bo2bo3b3o$175b3o3b2o2bo2bo2b2o2bo4bo3b4obobo6bo
$175b3obo3bobo6bob2ob2o2b4o2bobob2o$175b2o2bo3bobobob2o8b2o3bob2obobo
6b2o$179bo5bobobo6bobo2b3o3bobobob2o$181bo18bo4b2o2bobob2o$199bob3o3b
obo2bobo$175bo22bobo2b4o2bob2ob2o$174b3o6bo14bo2bobo5bo$174bob2o4b3o5b
o6b4o3b4obob3ob3o$175b3o3bo2b2o3b3o9b2o6bo7b2o$175b3o3b2o2bo2bo2b2o2b
o4bo3b4obobo6bo$175b3obo3bobo6bob2ob2o2b4o2bobob2o5b2o$175b2o2bo3bobo
bob2o8b2o3bob2obobobo$179bo5bobobo6bobo2b3o3bobobob2o$181bo18bo4b2o2b
obo3bo$199bob3o3bobo$175bo22bobo2b4o2bob2ob2o$174b3o6bo14bo2bobo5bo$174b
ob2o4b3o5bo6b4o3b4obo2bo3b3o$175b3o3bo2b2o3b3o9b2o6bobo6bo$175b3o3b2o
2bo2bo2b2o2bo4bo3b4obob2o$175b3obo3bobo6bob2ob2o2b4o2bobobo6b2o$175b2o
2bo3bobobob2o8b2o3bob2obobob2o$179bo5bobobo6bobo2b3o3bobobob2o$181bo18b
o4b2o2bo2bobo$199bob3o3bobob2ob2o$175bo22bobo2b4o2bo$174b3o6bo14bo2bo
bo5bob3ob3o$174bob2o4b3o5bo6b4o3b4obo7b2o$175b3o3bo2b2o3b3o9b2o6bobo6b
o$175b3o3b2o2bo2bo2b2o2bo4bo3b4obob2o5b2o$175b3obo3bobo6bob2ob2o2b4o2b
obobobo$175b2o2bo3bobobob2o8b2o3bob2obobob2o$179bo5bobobo6bobo2b3o3bo
bobo3bo$181bo18bo4b2o2bo$199bob3o3bobob2ob2o$175bo22bobo2b4o2bo$174b3o
6bo14bo2bobo5bo2bo3b3o$174bob2o4b3o5bo6b4o3b4obobo6bo$175b3o3bo2b2o3b
3o9b2o6bob2o$175b3o3b2o2bo2bo2b2o2bo4bo3b4obobo6b2o$175b3obo3bobo6bob
2ob2o2b4o2bobobob2o$175b2o2bo3bobobob2o8b2o3bob2obobob2o$179bo5bobobo
6bobo2b3o3bobo2bobo$181bo18bo4b2o2bob2ob2o$199bob3o3bobo$175bo22bobo2b
4o2bob3ob3o$174b3o6bo14bo2bobo5bo7b2o$174bob2o4b3o5bo6b4o3b4obobo6bo$
175b3o3bo2b2o3b3o9b2o6bob2o5b2o$175b3o3b2o2bo2bo2b2o2bo4bo3b4obobobo$
175b3obo3bobo6bob2ob2o2b4o2bobobob2o$175b2o2bo3bobobob2o8b2o3bob2obob
o3bo$179bo5bobobo6bobo2b3o3bobo$181bo18bo4b2o2bob2ob2o$199bob3o3bobo$
175bo22bobo2b4o2bo2bo3b3o$174b3o6bo14bo2bobo5bobo6bo$174bob2o4b3o5bo6b
4o3b4obob2o$175b3o3bo2b2o3b3o9b2o6bobo6b2o$175b3o3b2o2bo2bo2b2o2bo4bo
3b4obobob2o$175b3obo3bobo6bob2ob2o2b4o2bobobob2o$175b2o2bo3bobobob2o8b
2o3bob2obo2bobo$179bo5bobobo6bobo2b3o3bobob2ob2o$181bo18bo4b2o2bo$199b
ob3o3bobob3ob3o$175bo22bobo2b4o2bo7b2o$174b3o6bo14bo2bobo5bobo6bo$174b
ob2o4b3o5bo6b4o3b4obob2o5b2o$175b3o3bo2b2o3b3o9b2o6bobobo$175b3o3b2o2b
o2bo2b2o2bo4bo3b4obobob2o$175b3obo3bobo6bob2ob2o2b4o2bobobo3bo$175b2o
2bo3bobobob2o8b2o3bob2obo$179bo5bobobo6bobo2b3o3bobob2ob2o$181bo18bo4b
2o2bo$199bob3o3bobo2bo3b3o$175bo22bobo2b4o2bobo6bo$174b3o6bo14bo2bobo
5bob2o$174bob2o4b3o5bo6b4o3b4obobo6b2o$175b3o3bo2b2o3b3o9b2o6bobob2o$
175b3o3b2o2bo2bo2b2o2bo4bo3b4obobob2o$175b3obo3bobo6bob2ob2o2b4o2bobo
2bobo$175b2o2bo3bobobob2o8b2o3bob2obob2ob2o$179bo5bobobo6bobo2b3o3bob
o$181bo18bo4b2o2bob3ob3o$199bob3o3bobo7b2o$175bo22bobo2b4o2bobo6bo$174b
3o6bo14bo2bobo5bob2o5b2o$174bob2o4b3o5bo6b4o3b4obobobo$175b3o3bo2b2o3b
3o9b2o6bobob2o$175b3o3b2o2bo2bo2b2o2bo4bo3b4obobobobo$175b3obo3bobo6b
ob2ob2o2b4o2bobobobob2o$175b2o2bo3bobobob2o8b2o3bob2obobobobobo$179bo
5bobobo6bobo2b3o3bobobobobob2o$181bo18bo4b2o2bobobobobobo$199bob3o3bo
bobobobobob2o$175bo22bobo2b4o2bobobobobobobo$174b3o6bo14bo2bobo5bobob
obobobob2o$174bob2o4b3o5bo6b4o3b4obobobobobobobobo$175b3o3bo2b2o3b3o9b
2o6bobobobobobobob2o$175b3o3b2o2bo2bo2b2o2bo4bo3b4obobobobobobobobobo
$175b3obo3bobo6bob2ob2o2b4o2bobobobobobobobo3b2o$175b2o2bo3bobobob2o8b
2o3bob2obobobobobobobobo3bo$179bo5bobobo6bobo2b3o3bobobobobobobo4bo$181b
o18bo4b2o2bobobobobobo6b2o$199bob3o3bobobobobobobob2o$175bo22bobo2b4o
2bobobobobobobob2o$174b3o6bo14bo2bobo5bobobobobobobo3bo$174bob2o4b3o5b
o6b4o3b4obobobobobobobobo2b2o$175b3o3bo2b2o3b3o9b2o6bobobobobobobobo3b
o$175b3o3b2o2bo2bo2b2o2bo4bo3b4obobobobobobobobob3o$175b3obo3bobo6bob
2ob2o2b4o2bobobobobobobobobo3b2o$175b2o2bo3bobobob2o8b2o3bob2obobobob
obobobo$179bo5bobobo6bobo2b3o3bobobobobobobobo$181bo18bo4b2o2bobobobo
bobob2o$199bob3o3bobobobobobobo$175bo22bobo2b4o2bobobobobobob2o4b3o$174b
3o6bo14bo2bobo5bobobobobobo2bo4bo2bo$174bob2o4b3o5bo6b4o3b4obobobobob
obob2o4bo$175b3o3bo2b2o3b3o9b2o6bobobobobobo7bo$175b3o3b2o2bo2bo2b2o2b
o4bo3b4obobobobobobo2b2o4bobo$175b3obo3bobo6bob2ob2o2b4o2bobobobobobo
bobo2b2ob3o$175b2o2bo3bobobob2o8b2o3bob2obobobobobobobo5bo$179bo5bobo
bo6bobo2b3o3bobobobobobobobo5bo$181bo18bo4b2o2bobobobobobo5bo7b3o$199b
ob3o3bobobobobobobobobo2bo2bo3bo2bo$175bo22bobo2b4o2bobobobobobob2o3b
2ob2o2bo$174b3o6bo14bo2bobo5bobobobobobob2o4bo5bo3bo$174bob2o4b3o5bo6b
4o3b4obobobobobobo7bo2bo2bo$175b3o3bo2b2o3b3o9b2o6bobobobobobo2bo3bo7b
obo$175b3o3b2o2bo2bo2b2o2bo4bo3b4obobobobobobobo7bo$175b3obo3bobo6bob
2ob2o2b4o2bobobobobobobobobo3bo$175b2o2bo3bobobob2o8b2o3bob2obobobobo
bobob2o$179bo5bobobo6bobo2b3o3bobobobobobobob2o$181bo18bo4b2o2bobobob
obobo$199bob3o3bobobobobobobo2bo$198bobo2b4o2bobobobobobobo$198bo2bob
o5bobobobobobobobo$197b4o3b4obobobobobobob2o$196bo4b2o6bobobobobobob2o
$196b5o3b4obobobobobobo$194bo6b4o2bobobobobobobo2bo$194b7o3bob2obobob
obobobobo$192bo8b3o3bobobobobobobobobo$192b9o4b2o2bobobobobobob2o$190b
o10b3o3bobobobobobobob2o$190b11o2b4o2bobobobobobo$188bo12bobo5bobobob
obobo2bo$188b13o3b4obobobobobobobo$186bo14b2o6bobobobobobobobo$186b15o
3b4obobobobobobob2o$184bo16b4o2bobobobobobobob2o$184b17o3bob2obobobob
obobo$182bo18b3o3bobobobobobobo2bo$182b19o4b2o2bobobobobobobo$180bo20b
3o3bobobobobobobobobo$180b21o2b4o2bobobobobobob2o$178bo22bobo5bobobob
obobob2o$178b23o3b4obobobobobobo$176bo24b2o6bobobobobobo2bo$176b25o3b
4obobobobobobobo$174bo26b4o2bobobobobobobobobo$174b27o3bob2obobobobob
obob2o$172bo28b3o3bobobobobobobob2o$172b29o4b2o2bobobobobobo$170bo30b
3o3bobobobobobobo2bo$170b31o2b4o2bobobobobobobo$168bo32bobo5bobobobob
obobobo$168b33o3b4obobobobobobob2o$166bo34b2o6bobobobobobob2o$166b35o
3b4obobobobobobo$164bo36b4o2bobobobobobobo2bo$164b37o3bob2obobobobobo
bobo$162bo38b3o3bobobobobobobobobo$162b39o4b2o2bobobobobobob2o$160bo40b
3o3bobobobobobobob2o$160b41o2b4o2bobobobobobo$158bo42bobo5bobobobobob
o2bo$158b43o3b4obobobobobobobo$156bo44b2o6bobobobobobobobo$156b45o3b4o
bobobobobobob2o$154bo46b4o2bobobobobobobob2o$154b47o3bob2obobobobobob
o$152bo48b3o3bobobobobobobo2bo$152b49o4b2o2bobobobobobobo$150bo50b3o3b
obobobobobobobobo$150b51o2b4o2bobobobobobob2o$148bo52bobo5bobobobobob
ob2o$148b53o3b4obobobobobobo$146bo54b2o6bobobobobobo2bo$146b55o3b4obo
bobobobobobo$144bo56b4o2bobobobobobobobobo$144b57o3bob2obobobobobobob
2o$142bo58b3o3bobobobobobobob2o$142b59o4b2o2bobobobobobo$140bo60b3o3b
obobobobobobo2bo$140b61o2b4o2bobobobobobobo$138bo62bobo5bobobobobobob
obo$138b63o3b4obobobobobobob2o$136bo64b2o6bobobobobobob2o$136b65o3b4o
bobobobobobo$134bo66b4o2bobobobobobobo2bo$134b67o3bob2obobobobobobobo
$132bo68b3o3bobobobobobobobobo$132b69o4b2o2bobobobobobob2o$130bo70b3o
3bobobobobobobob2o$130b71o2b4o2bobobobobobo$128bo72bobo5bobobobobobo2b
o$128b73o3b4obobobobobobobo$126bo74b2o6bobobobobobobobo$126b75o3b4obo
bobobobobob2o$124bo76b4o2bobobobobobobob2o$124b77o3bob2obobobobobobo$
122bo78b3o3bobobobobobobo2bo$122b79o4b2o2bobobobobobobo18b2o$120bo80b
3o3bobobobobobobobobo15bo2bo$120b81o2b4o2bobobobobobob2o17b2o$118bo82b
obo5bobobobobobob2o19b3o$118b83o3b4obobobobobobo9b2o9b2o2bo8b2o$116bo
84b2o6bobobobobobobo7b2o8bo3bo8bo2bob2o$116b85o3b4obobobobobobobo3b2o
12b2o5b2o5bobobobo$114bo86b4o2bobobobobobobobobo5bo5b2o2bo2bo4bo2b3ob
o2bo2bo$114b87o3bob2obobobobobo2b2obo2bobobo3bobobob2o5bobo4bobo2b2o$
112bo88b3o3bobobobobobo6bobo5bobobo3bo5b2o2bobo2bob2o2b2o$112b89o4b2o
2bobobob2o3b5o2b5o4bob2o2b2obo2bobob2o2bo2b2o2bo$76bo33bo90b3o3bobobo
bo5bo5b2o15b3ob3o8bo3b3o$73b4o33b91o2b4o2bobobob2o3b5o2b5o4bob2o2b2ob
o2bobob2o2bo$73b2o33bo92bobo5bobobobobo6bobo5bobobo3bo5b2o2bobo2bob7o
$71bo36b93o3b4obobobobobo2b2obo2bobobo3bobobob2o5bobo4bobo6bo$71b4o31b
o94b2o6bobobobobobobobo5bo5b2o2bo2bo4bo2b3obobobob3o$70bo35b95o3b4obo
bobobobobobo3b2o12b2o5b2o5bo3b2obo$69b3o2bo29bo96b4o2bobobobobobobobo
7b2o8bo3bo8bo$70b3o31b97o3bob2obobobobobobo9b2o9b2o2bo7b2o$71bo30bo98b
3o3bobobobobobobob2o19b3o$72b3obo25b99o4b2o2bobobobobobob2o17b2o$72bo
2b2o23bo100b3o3bobobobobobobobobo15bo2bo$73b3o24b101o2b4o2bobobobobob
o5bo14b2o$75bo22bo102bobo5bobobobobo2b3o3bob2o$73bo24b103o3b4obobobob
ob2obobo3bob2o$73bobo20bo104b2o6bobobobobo2bo3bobo$72bo23b105o3b4obob
obobobo2bo3bobo$73bobo18bo106b4o2bobobobobob2obo2bo2b2o$73bo20b107o3b
ob2obobobobobo2bobobo3bo$75bo17bo107b3o3bobobobobobobobob3ob2o$73b3o16b
109o4b2o2bobobobobobo4bo$72bo2b2o14bo109b3o3bobobobobobob4obo$72b3obo
14b110o2b4o2bo2bo3bo5bob3o$71bo18bo104bo2bo2b2o2bo3bo11bo5bo$70b3o16b
104o8bo4b2ob2o11b3obo$69b3o2bo13bo104bo5bobo3bo3bo2bo11b2o$70bo17b105o
4b3ob3o2b2obob2o$71b4o11bo109bo3bo2b2o2b3o$71bo14b105o6b2obo2b2o2bo2b
3o$73b2o9bo106bo6bob2o3bob3o2bo$73b4obo5b107o7bo5b2o4b2o$76b2obo2bo116b
ob5o3bo$78b2o2b86ob20o9b2obo2bo2bobo$79b2o86bobo19bo12b4obobob2o$80b87o
3b19o17b2obob2o$181bo2bo15b4obobobo$78b87o3bo3b8o6b3o11bo2bobobobo$77b
2o86bobobobo8b6o2bo15b2ob2o$76b2o2b3o2b4o2b4o2b4o2b4o2b4o2b4o2b4o2b4o
2b4o2b4o2b4o2b4o2b4ob4obobob4ob3obo5bobobo$75b3o2b3obo2b2obo2b2obo2b2o
bo2b2obo2b2obo2b2obo2b2obo2b2obo2b2obo2b2obo2b2obo2b2obo2b2o6bobo6b2o
2b2o3bo2b2obo$76bobo7bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5b2obobob2o
5bo5bobo4bo$77b3o86b2ob2o11b2ob5ob2o$76bo2b2o82bo4bo4bo5bo6bo2bo2bo$79b
3o2bo78bob2obob2obo6b5o4bobo$79b3o2bo82bobo14bobo3bo$73b2o7bo82bobobo
bo8b2o3b2o$72b2ob5ob2o78b2obo2bobo2bob2o4b2o$73b6ob3obo76b2o2bobobobo
2b2o$74b3o3bo2b3obob2o76bobo$82b2obob2o77bo3bo$80bo9b2o$78b2o2bob3obo
2bob2o$78bo4bo2bobob2ob2o$78bo3b2o5b3obo$79b3o7b2o!
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Re: Spaceship Discussion Thread

Post by calcyman » November 23rd, 2020, 10:18 am

wwei23 wrote:
November 23rd, 2020, 10:10 am
The left corner can be completed using halfmax:
So can the bottom, so it's only the top part that's remaining:

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x = 195, y = 353, rule = B3/S23
140bo7b2o$140bobo6bo$140bob2o5b2o$140bobobo$140bobob2o$140bobo3bo$140b
o$140bob2ob2o$140bo$140bo2bo3b3o$140bobo6bo$140bob2o$131bo4b2o2bobo6b
2o$130bob3o3bobobob2o$106bo22bobo2b4o2bobob2o$105b3o6bo14bo2bobo5bo2bo
bo$105bob2o4b3o5bo6b4o3b4obob2ob2o$106b3o3bo2b2o3b3o9b2o6bo$106b3o3b2o
2bo2bo2b2o2bo4bo3b4obob3ob3o$106b3obo3bobo6bob2ob2o2b4o2bobo7b2o$106b
2o2bo3bobobob2o8b2o3bob2obobo6bo$110bo5bobobo6bobo2b3o3bobob2o5b2o$
112bo18bo4b2o2bobobo$130bob3o3bobobob2o$106bo22bobo2b4o2bobo3bo$105b3o
6bo14bo2bobo5bo$105bob2o4b3o5bo6b4o3b4obob2ob2o$106b3o3bo2b2o3b3o9b2o
6bo$106b3o3b2o2bo2bo2b2o2bo4bo3b4obo2bo3b3o$106b3obo3bobo6bob2ob2o2b4o
2bobobo6bo$106b2o2bo3bobobob2o8b2o3bob2obob2o$110bo5bobobo6bobo2b3o3bo
bobo6b2o$112bo18bo4b2o2bobob2o$130bob3o3bobobob2o$106bo22bobo2b4o2bo2b
obo$105b3o6bo14bo2bobo5bob2ob2o$105bob2o4b3o5bo6b4o3b4obo$106b3o3bo2b
2o3b3o9b2o6bob3ob3o$106b3o3b2o2bo2bo2b2o2bo4bo3b4obo7b2o$106b3obo3bobo
6bob2ob2o2b4o2bobobo6bo$106b2o2bo3bobobob2o8b2o3bob2obob2o5b2o$110bo5b
obobo6bobo2b3o3bobobobo$112bo18bo4b2o2bobob2o$130bob3o3bobobo3bo$106bo
22bobo2b4o2bo$105b3o6bo14bo2bobo5bob2ob2o$105bob2o4b3o5bo6b4o3b4obo$
106b3o3bo2b2o3b3o9b2o6bo2bo3b3o$106b3o3b2o2bo2bo2b2o2bo4bo3b4obobo6bo$
106b3obo3bobo6bob2ob2o2b4o2bobob2o$106b2o2bo3bobobob2o8b2o3bob2obobo6b
2o$110bo5bobobo6bobo2b3o3bobobob2o$112bo18bo4b2o2bobob2o$130bob3o3bobo
2bobo$106bo22bobo2b4o2bob2ob2o$105b3o6bo14bo2bobo5bo$105bob2o4b3o5bo6b
4o3b4obob3ob3o$106b3o3bo2b2o3b3o9b2o6bo7b2o$106b3o3b2o2bo2bo2b2o2bo4bo
3b4obobo6bo$106b3obo3bobo6bob2ob2o2b4o2bobob2o5b2o$106b2o2bo3bobobob2o
8b2o3bob2obobobo$110bo5bobobo6bobo2b3o3bobobob2o$112bo18bo4b2o2bobo3bo
$130bob3o3bobo$106bo22bobo2b4o2bob2ob2o$105b3o6bo14bo2bobo5bo$105bob2o
4b3o5bo6b4o3b4obo2bo3b3o$106b3o3bo2b2o3b3o9b2o6bobo6bo$106b3o3b2o2bo2b
o2b2o2bo4bo3b4obob2o$106b3obo3bobo6bob2ob2o2b4o2bobobo6b2o$106b2o2bo3b
obobob2o8b2o3bob2obobob2o$110bo5bobobo6bobo2b3o3bobobob2o$112bo18bo4b
2o2bo2bobo$130bob3o3bobob2ob2o$106bo22bobo2b4o2bo$105b3o6bo14bo2bobo5b
ob3ob3o$105bob2o4b3o5bo6b4o3b4obo7b2o$106b3o3bo2b2o3b3o9b2o6bobo6bo$
106b3o3b2o2bo2bo2b2o2bo4bo3b4obob2o5b2o$106b3obo3bobo6bob2ob2o2b4o2bob
obobo$106b2o2bo3bobobob2o8b2o3bob2obobob2o$110bo5bobobo6bobo2b3o3bobob
o3bo$112bo18bo4b2o2bo$130bob3o3bobob2ob2o$106bo22bobo2b4o2bo$105b3o6bo
14bo2bobo5bo2bo3b3o$105bob2o4b3o5bo6b4o3b4obobo6bo$106b3o3bo2b2o3b3o9b
2o6bob2o$106b3o3b2o2bo2bo2b2o2bo4bo3b4obobo6b2o$106b3obo3bobo6bob2ob2o
2b4o2bobobob2o$106b2o2bo3bobobob2o8b2o3bob2obobob2o$110bo5bobobo6bobo
2b3o3bobo2bobo$112bo18bo4b2o2bob2ob2o$130bob3o3bobo$106bo22bobo2b4o2bo
b3ob3o$105b3o6bo14bo2bobo5bo7b2o$105bob2o4b3o5bo6b4o3b4obobo6bo$106b3o
3bo2b2o3b3o9b2o6bob2o5b2o$106b3o3b2o2bo2bo2b2o2bo4bo3b4obobobo$106b3ob
o3bobo6bob2ob2o2b4o2bobobob2o$106b2o2bo3bobobob2o8b2o3bob2obobo3bo$
110bo5bobobo6bobo2b3o3bobo$112bo18bo4b2o2bob2ob2o$130bob3o3bobo$106bo
22bobo2b4o2bo2bo3b3o$105b3o6bo14bo2bobo5bobo6bo$105bob2o4b3o5bo6b4o3b
4obob2o$106b3o3bo2b2o3b3o9b2o6bobo6b2o$106b3o3b2o2bo2bo2b2o2bo4bo3b4ob
obob2o$106b3obo3bobo6bob2ob2o2b4o2bobobob2o$106b2o2bo3bobobob2o8b2o3bo
b2obo2bobo$110bo5bobobo6bobo2b3o3bobob2ob2o$112bo18bo4b2o2bo$130bob3o
3bobob3ob3o$106bo22bobo2b4o2bo7b2o$105b3o6bo14bo2bobo5bobo6bo$105bob2o
4b3o5bo6b4o3b4obob2o5b2o$106b3o3bo2b2o3b3o9b2o6bobobo$106b3o3b2o2bo2bo
2b2o2bo4bo3b4obobob2o$106b3obo3bobo6bob2ob2o2b4o2bobobo3bo$106b2o2bo3b
obobob2o8b2o3bob2obo$110bo5bobobo6bobo2b3o3bobob2ob2o$112bo18bo4b2o2bo
$130bob3o3bobo2bo3b3o$106bo22bobo2b4o2bobo6bo$105b3o6bo14bo2bobo5bob2o
$105bob2o4b3o5bo6b4o3b4obobo6b2o$106b3o3bo2b2o3b3o9b2o6bobob2o$106b3o
3b2o2bo2bo2b2o2bo4bo3b4obobob2o$106b3obo3bobo6bob2ob2o2b4o2bobo2bobo$
106b2o2bo3bobobob2o8b2o3bob2obob2ob2o$110bo5bobobo6bobo2b3o3bobo$112bo
18bo4b2o2bob3ob3o$130bob3o3bobo7b2o$106bo22bobo2b4o2bobo6bo$105b3o6bo
14bo2bobo5bob2o5b2o$105bob2o4b3o5bo6b4o3b4obobobo$106b3o3bo2b2o3b3o9b
2o6bobob2o$106b3o3b2o2bo2bo2b2o2bo4bo3b4obobobobo$106b3obo3bobo6bob2ob
2o2b4o2bobobobob2o$106b2o2bo3bobobob2o8b2o3bob2obobobobobo$110bo5bobob
o6bobo2b3o3bobobobobob2o$112bo18bo4b2o2bobobobobobo$130bob3o3bobobobob
obob2o$106bo22bobo2b4o2bobobobobobobo$105b3o6bo14bo2bobo5bobobobobobob
2o$105bob2o4b3o5bo6b4o3b4obobobobobobobobo$106b3o3bo2b2o3b3o9b2o6bobob
obobobobob2o$106b3o3b2o2bo2bo2b2o2bo4bo3b4obobobobobobobobobo$106b3obo
3bobo6bob2ob2o2b4o2bobobobobobobobo3b2o$106b2o2bo3bobobob2o8b2o3bob2ob
obobobobobobobo3bo$110bo5bobobo6bobo2b3o3bobobobobobobo4bo$112bo18bo4b
2o2bobobobobobo6b2o$130bob3o3bobobobobobobob2o$106bo22bobo2b4o2bobobob
obobobob2o$105b3o6bo14bo2bobo5bobobobobobobo3bo$105bob2o4b3o5bo6b4o3b
4obobobobobobobobo2b2o$106b3o3bo2b2o3b3o9b2o6bobobobobobobobo3bo$106b
3o3b2o2bo2bo2b2o2bo4bo3b4obobobobobobobobob3o$106b3obo3bobo6bob2ob2o2b
4o2bobobobobobobobobo3b2o$106b2o2bo3bobobob2o8b2o3bob2obobobobobobobo$
110bo5bobobo6bobo2b3o3bobobobobobobobo$112bo18bo4b2o2bobobobobobob2o$
130bob3o3bobobobobobobo$106bo22bobo2b4o2bobobobobobob2o4b3o$105b3o6bo
14bo2bobo5bobobobobobo2bo4bo2bo$105bob2o4b3o5bo6b4o3b4obobobobobobob2o
4bo$106b3o3bo2b2o3b3o9b2o6bobobobobobo7bo$106b3o3b2o2bo2bo2b2o2bo4bo3b
4obobobobobobo2b2o4bobo$106b3obo3bobo6bob2ob2o2b4o2bobobobobobobobo2b
2ob3o$106b2o2bo3bobobob2o8b2o3bob2obobobobobobobo5bo$110bo5bobobo6bobo
2b3o3bobobobobobobobo5bo$112bo18bo4b2o2bobobobobobo5bo7b3o$130bob3o3bo
bobobobobobobobo2bo2bo3bo2bo$106bo22bobo2b4o2bobobobobobob2o3b2ob2o2bo
$105b3o6bo14bo2bobo5bobobobobobob2o4bo5bo3bo$105bob2o4b3o5bo6b4o3b4obo
bobobobobo7bo2bo2bo$106b3o3bo2b2o3b3o9b2o6bobobobobobo2bo3bo7bobo$106b
3o3b2o2bo2bo2b2o2bo4bo3b4obobobobobobobo7bo$106b3obo3bobo6bob2ob2o2b4o
2bobobobobobobobobo3bo$106b2o2bo3bobobob2o8b2o3bob2obobobobobobob2o$
110bo5bobobo6bobo2b3o3bobobobobobobob2o$112bo18bo4b2o2bobobobobobo$
130bob3o3bobobobobobobo2bo$129bobo2b4o2bobobobobobobo$129bo2bobo5bobob
obobobobobo$128b4o3b4obobobobobobob2o$127bo4b2o6bobobobobobob2o$127b5o
3b4obobobobobobo$125bo6b4o2bobobobobobobo2bo$125b7o3bob2obobobobobobob
o$123bo8b3o3bobobobobobobobobo$123b9o4b2o2bobobobobobob2o$121bo10b3o3b
obobobobobobob2o$121b11o2b4o2bobobobobobo$119bo12bobo5bobobobobobo2bo$
119b13o3b4obobobobobobobo$117bo14b2o6bobobobobobobobo$117b15o3b4obobob
obobobob2o$115bo16b4o2bobobobobobobob2o$115b17o3bob2obobobobobobo$113b
o18b3o3bobobobobobobo2bo$113b19o4b2o2bobobobobobobo$111bo20b3o3bobobob
obobobobobo$111b21o2b4o2bobobobobobob2o$109bo22bobo5bobobobobobob2o$
109b23o3b4obobobobobobo$107bo24b2o6bobobobobobo2bo$107b25o3b4obobobobo
bobobo$105bo26b4o2bobobobobobobobobo$105b27o3bob2obobobobobobob2o$103b
o28b3o3bobobobobobobob2o$103b29o4b2o2bobobobobobo$101bo30b3o3bobobobob
obobo2bo$101b31o2b4o2bobobobobobobo$99bo32bobo5bobobobobobobobo$99b33o
3b4obobobobobobob2o$97bo34b2o6bobobobobobob2o$97b35o3b4obobobobobobo$
95bo36b4o2bobobobobobobo2bo$95b37o3bob2obobobobobobobo$93bo38b3o3bobob
obobobobobobo$93b39o4b2o2bobobobobobob2o$91bo40b3o3bobobobobobobob2o$
91b41o2b4o2bobobobobobo$89bo42bobo5bobobobobobo2bo$89b43o3b4obobobobob
obobo$87bo44b2o6bobobobobobobobo$87b45o3b4obobobobobobob2o$85bo46b4o2b
obobobobobobob2o$85b47o3bob2obobobobobobo$83bo48b3o3bobobobobobobo2bo$
83b49o4b2o2bobobobobobobo$81bo50b3o3bobobobobobobobobo$81b51o2b4o2bobo
bobobobob2o$79bo52bobo5bobobobobobob2o$79b53o3b4obobobobobobo$77bo54b
2o6bobobobobobo2bo$77b55o3b4obobobobobobobo$75bo56b4o2bobobobobobobobo
bo$75b57o3bob2obobobobobobob2o$73bo58b3o3bobobobobobobob2o$73b59o4b2o
2bobobobobobo$71bo60b3o3bobobobobobobo2bo$71b61o2b4o2bobobobobobobo$
69bo62bobo5bobobobobobobobo$69b63o3b4obobobobobobob2o$67bo64b2o6bobobo
bobobob2o$67b65o3b4obobobobobobo$65bo66b4o2bobobobobobobo2bo$65b67o3bo
b2obobobobobobobo$63bo68b3o3bobobobobobobobobo$63b69o4b2o2bobobobobobo
b2o$61bo70b3o3bobobobobobobob2o$61b71o2b4o2bobobobobobo$59bo72bobo5bob
obobobobo2bo$59b73o3b4obobobobobobobo$57bo74b2o6bobobobobobobobo$57b
75o3b4obobobobobobob2o$55bo76b4o2bobobobobobobob2o$55b77o3bob2obobobob
obobo$53bo78b3o3bobobobobobobo2bo$53b79o4b2o2bobobobobobobo18b2o$51bo
80b3o3bobobobobobobobobo15bo2bo$51b81o2b4o2bobobobobobob2o17b2o$49bo
82bobo5bobobobobobob2o19b3o$49b83o3b4obobobobobobo9b2o9b2o2bo8b2o$47bo
84b2o6bobobobobobobo7b2o8bo3bo8bo2bob2o$47b85o3b4obobobobobobobo3b2o
12b2o5b2o5bobobobo$45bo86b4o2bobobobobobobobobo5bo5b2o2bo2bo4bo2b3obo
2bo2bo$45b87o3bob2obobobobobo2b2obo2bobobo3bobobob2o5bobo4bobo2b2o$43b
o88b3o3bobobobobobo6bobo5bobobo3bo5b2o2bobo2bob2o2b2o$43b89o4b2o2bobob
ob2o3b5o2b5o4bob2o2b2obo2bobob2o2bo2b2o2bo$7bo33bo90b3o3bobobobo5bo5b
2o15b3ob3o8bo3b3o$4b4o33b91o2b4o2bobobob2o3b5o2b5o4bob2o2b2obo2bobob2o
2bo$4b2o33bo92bobo5bobobobobo6bobo5bobobo3bo5b2o2bobo2bob7o$2bo36b93o
3b4obobobobobo2b2obo2bobobo3bobobob2o5bobo4bobo6bo$2b4o31bo94b2o6bobob
obobobobobo5bo5b2o2bo2bo4bo2b3obobobob3o$bo35b95o3b4obobobobobobobo3b
2o12b2o5b2o5bo3b2obo$3o2bo29bo96b4o2bobobobobobobobo7b2o8bo3bo8bo$b3o
31b97o3bob2obobobobobobo9b2o9b2o2bo7b2o$2bo30bo98b3o3bobobobobobobob2o
19b3o$3b3obo25b99o4b2o2bobobobobobob2o17b2o$3bo2b2o23bo100b3o3bobobobo
bobobobobo15bo2bo$4b3o24b101o2b4o2bobobobobobo5bo14b2o$6bo22bo102bobo
5bobobobobo2b3o3bob2o$4bo24b103o3b4obobobobob2obobo3bob2o$4bobo20bo
104b2o6bobobobobo2bo3bobo$3bo23b105o3b4obobobobobo2bo3bobo$4bobo18bo
106b4o2bobobobobob2obo2bo2b2o$4bo20b107o3bob2obobobobobo2bobobo3bo$6bo
17bo107b3o3bobobobobobobobob3ob2o$4b3o16b109o4b2o2bobobobobobo4bo$3bo
2b2o14bo109b3o3bobobobobobob4obo$3b3obo14b110o2b4o2bo2bo3bo5bob3o$2bo
18bo104bo2bo2b2o2bo3bo11bo5bo$b3o16b104o8bo4b2ob2o11b3obo$3o2bo13bo
104bo5bobo3bo3bo2bo11b2o$bo17b105o4b3ob3o2b2obob2o$2b4o11bo109bo3bo2b
2o2b3o$2bo14b105o6b2obo2b2o2bo2b3o$4b2o9bo106bo6bob2o3bob3o2bo$4b4obo
5b107o7bo5b2o4b2o$7b2obo2bo116bob5o3bo$9b2o2b86ob20o9b2obo2bo2bobo$10b
2o86bobo19bo12b4obobob2o$11b87o3b19o17b2obob2o$112bo2bo15b4obobobo$9b
87o3bo3b8o6b3o11bo2bobobobo$8b2o86bobobobo8b6o2bo15b2ob2o$7b2o2b3o2b4o
2b4o2b4o2b4o2b4o2b4o2b4o2b4o2b4o2b4o2b4o2b4o2b4ob4obobob4ob3obo5bobobo
$6b3o2b3obo2b2obo2b2obo2b2obo2b2obo2b2obo2b2obo2b2obo2b2obo2b2obo2b2ob
o2b2obo2b2obo2b2o6bobo6b2o2b2o3bo2b2obo$7bobo7bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo
5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5b2obobob2o5bo5bobo4bo$8b3o86b2ob2o11b2ob5ob2o$7bo2b2o
82bo4bo4bo5bo6bo2bo2bo$10b3o2bo78bob2obob2obo6b5o4bobo$10b3o2bo82bobo
14bobo3bo$4b2o7bo82bobobobo8b2o3b2o$3b2ob5ob2o78b2obo2bobo2bob2o4b2o$
4b6ob3obo76b2o2bobobobo2b2o$5b3o3bo2b3obob2o76bobo$13b2obob2o77bo3bo$
11bo9b2o$9b2o2bob3obo2bob2o70b2o3b2o$9bo4bo2bobob2ob2o69bo7bo$9bo3b2o
5b3obo70b4ob4o$10b3o7b2o$96bobobobo$89bo3b3o2bobo2b3o3bo$88bobobobob2o
3b2obobobobo$88bobobo3bo5bo3bobobo$89bobo3bo2b3o2bo3bobo$91bobo4b3o4bo
bo$91b2o6bo6b2o$98bobo$94bo2bobobo2bo$94b4obob4o$98b3o$96bo5bo$95bob2o
b2obo$95bo7bo$93bobob2ob2obob2o$92bobo3bobo3bobo$92bo2b2o5b2o$93b2o2bo
3bo$96bobobob2o$93b3obobobo2bo$93bo3bo3bob2o$94bobobo2bo$95b2obo2bob2o
$97bobobobo$97bobobobo$98b2ob2o!
I think this is the pattern Hartmut intended to post, but it ended up being truncated?
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Re: Spaceship Discussion Thread

Post by HartmutHolzwart » November 23rd, 2020, 10:54 am

Yes and I didn't notice the truncation! The real issue always was and still is the upper right corner.

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Re: Spaceship Discussion Thread

Post by wwei23 » November 23rd, 2020, 11:03 am

Well, searching backwards at P4 isn't going to work well, I know this from personal experience...How else might we search for a completion?
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Re: Spaceship Discussion Thread

Post by HartmutHolzwart » November 23rd, 2020, 11:10 am

sideways...

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Re: Spaceship Discussion Thread

Post by wwei23 » November 24th, 2020, 2:51 pm

Smaller 18c/36 backrake:

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x = 28, y = 25, rule = B3/S23
17b2o$15bo4bo$14bo$14bo5bo$14b6o3$bo2bo$o23bobo$o3bo11b2o6bo2bo$4o11bo
7bo3bo$6b3o2b2o7bo3bo2bo$6b3o2b2o8bo2b3o$6b3o2b2o7bo$4o11bo$o3bo11b2o$
o$bo2bo10bo$13bo3bo$12bo$12bo4bo6b2o$12b5o5bo4bo$21bo$21bo5bo$21b6o!
Comparison to the one in jls-moving-master:

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x = 34, y = 37, rule = B3/S23
22bo2bo$21bo$21bo3bo$21b4o2$27b2ob2o$22b3o5b2o$21b5o6bo$20b2ob4o3b2o$
21b2o5bo2bo$28bobo2$15b2o14b2o$14b2ob2o12bobo$15b4o12bo$16b2o$20bobo$
19bo$4o15bo$o3bo10bo3bo3bo$o7b2o4bobo4bobo$bo2bo2b4o3bobo2bo3b2o$6b2o
3bo$bo2bo2b4o3bobo3b5o$o7b2o4bobo5b2o$o3bo10bo8bo$4o20b2ob2o$23b2o3b2o
$24b2ob2o$12b5o8b3o$12bo4bo8bo$12bo$13bo3bo$15bo5b2o$20b2ob2o$21b4o$
22b2o!
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Re: Spaceship Discussion Thread

Post by MathAndCode » November 24th, 2020, 4:13 pm

wwei23 wrote:
November 24th, 2020, 2:51 pm
Smaller 18c/36 backrake:

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x = 28, y = 25, rule = B3/S23
17b2o$15bo4bo$14bo$14bo5bo$14b6o3$bo2bo$o23bobo$o3bo11b2o6bo2bo$4o11bo
7bo3bo$6b3o2b2o7bo3bo2bo$6b3o2b2o8bo2b3o$6b3o2b2o7bo$4o11bo$o3bo11b2o$
o$bo2bo10bo$13bo3bo$12bo$12bo4bo6b2o$12b5o5bo4bo$21bo$21bo5bo$21b6o!
It also yields a periodic R→G.

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x = 136, y = 64, rule = LifeHistory
A$.2A$2A21$23.C$24.2C$23.2C$123.4A$107.2A14.A2.2A6.2A$107.2A15.A2.2A5.
2A$124.A2.A$125.2A$100.D8.A3.A$98.3D7.A.A.A.A10.2A$94.2D3.D6.2A2.A.A2.
2A7.A2.A$94.D.D9.2A7.2A7.A2.2A5.2A$94.D11.2A2.A.A2.2A6.A2.2A6.2A$108.
A.A.A.A8.4A$62.A46.A3.A$62.3A$65.A$52.A11.2A11.2A11.D$50.3A24.2A9.3D$
49.A38.D.D$49.2A37.D$34.2A$35.A$35.A.2A$36.A2.A23.D$37.2A24.D.D$52.2A
9.3D$52.2A11.D4$61.A3.2A$60.A.A3.A37.2A.A$59.A.A3.A12.2A24.2A.3A$55.2A
.A.A3.A13.A.A29.A$55.2A.A2.4A.A13.A23.2A.3A$59.A.A3.A.A12.2A23.A.A$55.
2A.2A2.A2.A.A37.A.A$56.A.A2.2A3.A39.A$44.2A10.A.A$44.2A11.A!
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Re: Spaceship Discussion Thread

Post by wwei23 » November 25th, 2020, 12:13 am

c/6d search still ongoing...

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#C depth = 317
#C breadth = 13
#CLL state-numbering golly
x = 56, y = 68, rule = B3/S23
5b2o$3b2o2bo2$4b2o$bo2bo$2obo$4bo2$5b3o$6bo2b4o$5bo4b2obo$5b7o$7b
2o3bo$13bo2b3o$13bo3b2o$12b2obo2b2o$11bo3bo$15b2obobo$13bob3obo$
13b3obobob2obo$21bo2bo$16bo5bo2bo$15b3o6bo$15b2o$17bo4b2o$23b2o2$
24bo$25bo$25b2o$26bo3$26b3o2$26bobo$25b2obo$25bobo$24bobobo2b2o$
25bo2bo3bo$27bo$26bo$32bobo$28b4o$29b3o2bo$33bo$30bobo2bo2bo$32b3o
5bo$34b2o3b3o$36b2o4bo$39bo$37b2o$36b2o3bo$36b2obob2o3b2o$38bo3b2o
bobo$39b2o4bo$38bo8b2o$39bo2b2o4b2o$41bo3b2obob2o$42bo7bo$44bo2b2o
b2o2bo$44b3ob2o2bo$46bo3b2o2b2o$47b2ob2o2bo$46b2o4bo$48bo2b2o$51bo
$50bo!
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Re: Spaceship Discussion Thread

Post by Sokwe » December 3rd, 2020, 5:06 am

Here's a new growing spaceship:

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x = 39, y = 65, rule = B3/S23
7b3o4b3o5b3o4b3o$7bo2bo2bo2bo5bo2bo2bo2bo$b3o3bo9bo3bo9bo3b3o$o2bo3bo
4bo2bobo3bobo2bo4bo3bo2bo$3bo3bo3bobobob2ob2obobobo3bo3bo$3bo3bo3bo2bo
2bo3bo2bo2bo3bo3bo$obo4bo4b6o3b6o4bo4bobo$7bo3b4obobobobob4o3bo$7bo3bo
5b2ob2o5bo3bo$7bo9b2ob2o9bo$8bobo17bobo$18bobo$18bobo$11bobo2bobobobo
2bobo$10b4o2bobobobo2b4o$14bobo5bobo$11b4obo5bob4o$10b5o2bo3bo2b5o$14b
2o7b2o$14b2o7b2o$15b3o3b3o$18bobo$15b2obobob2o$15b3obob3o$19bo$18bobo$
14bo3bobo3bo$13b2o9b2o$12bobob3ob3obobo$10b3o2bo2bobo2bo2b3o$10b2o4b2o
3b2o4b2o$10b2o6bobo6b2o$11bo3b2obobob2o3bo$10b2ob2o3bobo3b2ob2o$10bo2b
o3b2ob2o3bo2bo$9bobo15bobo$10bo3b4o3b4o3bo$14bob7obo$14bob7obo$18bobo$
17b2ob2o$16bo5bo$14bob3ob3obo$12b2o11b2o$15bob2ob2obo$19bo$19bo$16b7o$
18bobo$17bo3bo$18bobo$17b2ob2o$18b3o$18b3o2$16b2obob2o$16b3ob3o$15b2o
5b2o$15b3o3b3o$14b2o7b2o2$14bo2bo3bo2bo$13b2o2b2ob2o2b2o$13b2o2b2ob2o
2b2o$13bo2bo5bo2bo!
The front is c/2 and the back is c/5. The tricky part was finding a period-5 anteater for a wick that travels at 2c/10. There are two different phases to the wick, so the anteater needs to be able to eat ants in both phases. This same trick was used to construct the first c/5 wickstretchers (see here), but in that case a stationary period-6 anteater was eating a period-12 wick. I have previously suggested that this might be the trick to building a c/7 wickstretcher, although that seems much more difficult, given the fact that we currently only have two elementary c/7 ships.

I found the above c/5 anteater by starting with a reaction similar to the stationary p6 anteater used in the original c/5 stretcher. I set up a width-23 gutter search with JLS and ran it until I got what looked like a viable partial result. I then extended that partial result with a width-21 symmetric qfind search. After a while I checked the partial results and found one that had a familiar back end that I was able to complete by hand. I'll keep the width-21 search going to see if it will find anything shorter.

Are there any other known highly-connected growing spaceships that travel orthogonally? While I don't usually include growing spaceships in the jslife-moving collection, I would make an exception for patterns like this.

Edit: completely unrelated to the above, I found a connecting component that allows Hartmut Holzwart's c/4 wick component to interface with some normal gray ship components:

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x = 196, y = 217, rule = B3/S23
97bo$94b2obo$93b2o$92bo$89b2o2b2o$87bo2bobo$87bo4bo3bo$84b3o2bo3bo2bo$
79b2o2bob2obo5bobo$78b3o2bobo$79b2obo$82bo2$82bo3bo$82b4o$79bo3b2o$79b
2o3bo$79bo2b2o$83bobo$83b3o$84bo$38b2o45bo$37bo4b2o40b3o$13b3o20bo5b4o
$11b2o2bo19b3o4b4o$7bobo25bo5bo4bo37b3o$6b3obobo3b2o13b2o2b2obobo5bo2b
2o27bo2bo2b2o$10bo2bo2bo6b3o6b2o4bob2o4bo2b3o26bo2bo2b2o$7bobo5b2o6bo
5b2o20bo26bo3bob2o$9bo6bo3b2o2bo3b3o46b2ob4o$7b2o9bo2b6ob3o45bo4b3ob3o
$7bo10b2o2b2obob2o47b2ob2o$8bo15b2obo49bo2b3o$8b3o70b2o2$8bo2bo65b3o$
11bo64bobo$7b2o66b2o$11bo62b2o$6bo$7b4obo61bob2obo$10bobo61b2o3bo$8bob
o68bo$9b2o63b2o$2bo2bob2o66bo2bo$2b2o3bo71bo$bo2b2obo68b2obo$3o2bobobo
66b3o$3o2bo2b2o64bob2o$obo2bo2bob2o62bobo$obo3b2o65bo2bo14bo3bo$bo2bob
3o64b2o2bob2o9bob2obo$2b4o70bo4bo8bobo$2bo2bo3bo81bo$b2o74b2ob2o7b2o
13bo3bo$2o2bob3o70bo9b2o12bob2obo$o8bo83bob2o6bobo$b2obo4b2o19bo44b3o
14b2o10bo$5bo3b2o18bo45b2o25b2o13bo3bo$4bobo2bo16b2ob2o44b2ob2o12b2obo
6b2o12bob2obo$4b2obo17b4o5b2o9bo3bo26bo15b2obo10bob2o6bobo$4b2o2b2o8bo
bo4b2obob2o2b2o8bobobo13bo15bo15bo10b2o10bo$9bo7bo4b2o3bo2b3o10b2o3bo
3b2o3b3ob2o2bo9b3o13bo2b2o19b2o13bo3bo$3bobo3bo8bo4bo3bo3b7o6bobobo3bo
2b2o5bob2o8b2o16b3o10b2obo6b2o12bob2obo$3bobo3b2o3b3o3bo2bob3o9bo2bo5b
o4bo9bobobo9bo29b2obo10bob2o6bobo$2bo2bob3o5bo4bo2b2o9b2o2bobo5b3o5b2o
4bo2bobo9bobo13bo15bo10b2o10bo$3bo3b2o6bo5bobo3bo6bo2bobo2bo13b2ob2o2b
o12bo3b2o9b2o11bo2b2o19b2o13bo3bo$3b5o4b2o3b2o3bo12bo5b2ob2o17b2o12b2o
11bo3bo10b3o10b2obo6b2o12bob2obo$5bo4b2obo10b2o10bo3bob3o19b3obo12bo9b
o26b2obo10bob2o6bobo$10b3obob3o19b2o3bo21bobo9b3o10b2obo10bo15bo10b2o
10bo$9bo5b2o24b2o36bo11bobo10b2o11bo2b2o19b2o$7bo3bobob2o58b2o2bo11b2o
10bo3bo10b3o10b2obo6b2o$5b2o4bo3bo58bo4bo2b2o7b3o10bo26b2obo10bob2o$7b
o3bo4bo64b3o5b3o11b2obo10bo15bo10b2o$11b2o2b4o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o
3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3bobo3b2o3bo4bo15bobo10b2o11bo2b2o24bo$14bo2bob2o3b2o
3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o4b2ob2o19b2o10bo3bo10b3o10b2ob
o10bobo$15b2ob2o2b3o2b3o2b3o2b3o2b3o2b3o2b3o2b3o2b3o2b3o2bo5b2o3b2o3bo
3bo11b3o10bo26b2obo12bo$16bo58bo11bobo2bo9b3o11b2obo10bo15bo10b2o$17b
72ob2o9bo15bobo10b2o11bo2b2o8b3o$90bobo3b2o19b2o10bo3bo10b3o8b2o3bo$
17b73o3b5o3bo3bo11b3o10bo28bobo$16bo83bobo2bo9b3o11b2obo10bo13bo2b2o$
9b4obob86ob2o9bo15bobo10b2o13b2o$9bo2b4o87bobo3b2o19b2o10bo3bo11bo$16b
87o3b5o3bo3bo11b3o10bo$9b3o101bobo2bo9b3o11b2obo13b3o$16b99ob2o9bo15bo
bo12bo2b2o$9bo2b4o100bobo3b2o19b2o5bobo8bo$9b4obob100o3b5o3bo3bo11b3o
4bo3bo4b2obo$16bo109bobo2bo9b3o6bo2b2o4b2obo$17b111ob2o9bo11bobo23b3o$
129bobo3b2o17bo4b2o17b3o4b3o$17b112o3b5o3bo3bo8b2obo3bob2o13b2o5bo3b2o
$16bo122bobo2bo7bo3bo17bobo3b2o2bo$9b4obob125ob2o8bob2obo12b2o2bob6o3b
o4bobo$9bo2b4o126bobo3b2o6bo12b2ob2obo11b2obob2obo$16b126o3b5o2b6o12bo
5b7o12bo$9b3o157b2o$16b144o3b2o5bo5b9obo$9bo2b4o8bo18bo18bo18bo18bo18b
o18bo18bo2bo2b4o2b2ob2obo10bo$9b4obob2o3b2o2bob4obo2b2o3b2o2bob4obo2b
2o3b2o2bob4obo2b2o3b2o2bob4obo2b2o3b2o2bob4obo2b2o3b2o2bob4obo2b2o3b2o
2bob4obo2b2o3b2o2bo3bo4bo2b2o2bo2b5o3bo$16bo3b3o2bob2obo4b2o2b3o2bob2o
bo4b2o2b3o2bob2obo4b2o2b3o2bob2obo4b2o2b3o2bob2obo4b2o2b3o2bob2obo4b2o
2b3o2bob2obo4b2o2b3o2bobo4bo8bobob2obobo$20bo3b2o2bo4bo5bo3b2o2bo4bo5b
o3b2o2bo4bo5bo3b2o2bo4bo5bo3b2o2bo4bo5bo3b2o2bo4bo5bo3b2o2bo4bo5bo3b2o
bo4bo10b3o$20bo3b2o2bo4bo5bo3b2o2bo4bo5bo3b2o2bo4bo5bo3b2o2bo4bo5bo3b
2o2bo4bo5bo3b2o2bo4bo5bo3b2o2bo4bo5bo3b2obo4bo10b3o$16bo3b3o2bob2obo4b
2o2b3o2bob2obo4b2o2b3o2bob2obo4b2o2b3o2bob2obo4b2o2b3o2bob2obo4b2o2b3o
2bob2obo4b2o2b3o2bob2obo4b2o2b3o2bobo4bo8bobob2obobo$9b4obob2o3b2o2bob
4obo2b2o3b2o2bob4obo2b2o3b2o2bob4obo2b2o3b2o2bob4obo2b2o3b2o2bob4obo2b
2o3b2o2bob4obo2b2o3b2o2bob4obo2b2o3b2o2bo3bo4bo2b2o2bo2b5o3bo$9bo2b4o
8bo18bo18bo18bo18bo18bo18bo18bo2bo2b4o2b2ob2obo10bo$16b144o3b2o5bo5b9o
bo$9b3o157b2o$16b144o3b2o5bo5b9obo$9bo2b4o8bo18bo18bo18bo18bo18bo18bo
18bo2bo2b4o2b2ob2obo10bo$9b4obob2o3b2o2bob4obo2b2o3b2o2bob4obo2b2o3b2o
2bob4obo2b2o3b2o2bob4obo2b2o3b2o2bob4obo2b2o3b2o2bob4obo2b2o3b2o2bob4o
bo2b2o3b2o2bo3bo4bo2b2o2bo2b5o3bo$16bo3b3o2bob2obo4b2o2b3o2bob2obo4b2o
2b3o2bob2obo4b2o2b3o2bob2obo4b2o2b3o2bob2obo4b2o2b3o2bob2obo4b2o2b3o2b
ob2obo4b2o2b3o2bobo4bo8bobob2obobo$20bo3b2o2bo4bo5bo3b2o2bo4bo5bo3b2o
2bo4bo5bo3b2o2bo4bo5bo3b2o2bo4bo5bo3b2o2bo4bo5bo3b2o2bo4bo5bo3b2obo4bo
10b3o$20bo3b2o2bo4bo5bo3b2o2bo4bo5bo3b2o2bo4bo5bo3b2o2bo4bo5bo3b2o2bo
4bo5bo3b2o2bo4bo5bo3b2o2bo4bo5bo3b2obo4bo10b3o$16bo3b3o2bob2obo4b2o2b
3o2bob2obo4b2o2b3o2bob2obo4b2o2b3o2bob2obo4b2o2b3o2bob2obo4b2o2b3o2bob
2obo4b2o2b3o2bob2obo4b2o2b3o2bobo4bo8bobob2obobo$9b4obob2o3b2o2bob4obo
2b2o3b2o2bob4obo2b2o3b2o2bob4obo2b2o3b2o2bob4obo2b2o3b2o2bob4obo2b2o3b
2o2bob4obo2b2o3b2o2bob4obo2b2o3b2o2bo3bo4bo2b2o2bo2b5o3bo$9bo2b4o8bo
18bo18bo18bo18bo18bo18bo18bo2bo2b4o2b2ob2obo10bo$16b144o3b2o5bo5b9obo$
9b3o157b2o$16b126o3b5o2b6o12bo5b7o12bo$9bo2b4o126bobo3b2o6bo12b2ob2obo
11b2obob2obo$9b4obob125ob2o8bob2obo12b2o2bob6o3bo4bobo$16bo122bobo2bo
7bo3bo17bobo3b2o2bo$17b112o3b5o3bo3bo8b2obo3bob2o13b2o5bo3b2o$129bobo
3b2o17bo4b2o17b3o4b3o$17b111ob2o9bo11bobo23b3o$16bo109bobo2bo9b3o6bo2b
2o4b2obo$9b4obob100o3b5o3bo3bo11b3o4bo3bo4b2obo$9bo2b4o100bobo3b2o19b
2o5bobo8bo$16b99ob2o9bo15bobo12bo2b2o$9b3o101bobo2bo9b3o11b2obo13b3o$
16b87o3b5o3bo3bo11b3o10bo$9bo2b4o87bobo3b2o19b2o10bo3bo11bo$9b4obob86o
b2o9bo15bobo10b2o13b2o$16bo83bobo2bo9b3o11b2obo10bo13bo2b2o$17b73o3b5o
3bo3bo11b3o10bo28bobo$90bobo3b2o19b2o10bo3bo10b3o8b2o3bo$17b72ob2o9bo
15bobo10b2o11bo2b2o8b3o$16bo58bo11bobo2bo9b3o11b2obo10bo15bo10b2o$15b
2ob2o2b3o2b3o2b3o2b3o2b3o2b3o2b3o2b3o2b3o2b3o2bo5b2o3b2o3bo3bo11b3o10b
o26b2obo12bo$14bo2bob2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o4b
2ob2o19b2o10bo3bo10b3o10b2obo10bobo$11b2o2b4o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o
3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3bobo3b2o3bo4bo15bobo10b2o11bo2b2o24bo$7bo3bo4bo64b3o
5b3o11b2obo10bo15bo10b2o$5b2o4bo3bo58bo4bo2b2o7b3o10bo26b2obo10bob2o$
7bo3bobob2o58b2o2bo11b2o10bo3bo10b3o10b2obo6b2o$9bo5b2o24b2o36bo11bobo
10b2o11bo2b2o19b2o$10b3obob3o19b2o3bo21bobo9b3o10b2obo10bo15bo10b2o10b
o$5bo4b2obo10b2o10bo3bob3o19b3obo12bo9bo26b2obo10bob2o6bobo$3b5o4b2o3b
2o3bo12bo5b2ob2o17b2o12b2o11bo3bo10b3o10b2obo6b2o12bob2obo$3bo3b2o6bo
5bobo3bo6bo2bobo2bo13b2ob2o2bo12bo3b2o9b2o11bo2b2o19b2o13bo3bo$2bo2bob
3o5bo4bo2b2o9b2o2bobo5b3o5b2o4bo2bobo9bobo13bo15bo10b2o10bo$3bobo3b2o
3b3o3bo2bob3o9bo2bo5bo4bo9bobobo9bo29b2obo10bob2o6bobo$3bobo3bo8bo4bo
3bo3b7o6bobobo3bo2b2o5bob2o8b2o16b3o10b2obo6b2o12bob2obo$9bo7bo4b2o3bo
2b3o10b2o3bo3b2o3b3ob2o2bo9b3o13bo2b2o19b2o13bo3bo$4b2o2b2o8bobo4b2obo
b2o2b2o8bobobo13bo15bo15bo10b2o10bo$4b2obo17b4o5b2o9bo3bo26bo15b2obo
10bob2o6bobo$4bobo2bo16b2ob2o44b2ob2o12b2obo6b2o12bob2obo$5bo3b2o18bo
45b2o25b2o13bo3bo$b2obo4b2o19bo44b3o14b2o10bo$o8bo83bob2o6bobo$2o2bob
3o70bo9b2o12bob2obo$b2o74b2ob2o7b2o13bo3bo$2bo2bo3bo81bo$2b4o70bo4bo8b
obo$bo2bob3o64b2o2bob2o9bob2obo$obo3b2o65bo2bo14bo3bo$obo2bo2bob2o62bo
bo$3o2bo2b2o64bob2o$3o2bobobo66b3o$bo2b2obo68b2obo$2b2o3bo71bo$2bo2bob
2o66bo2bo$9b2o63b2o$8bobo68bo$10bobo61b2o3bo$7b4obo61bob2obo$6bo$11bo
62b2o$7b2o66b2o$11bo64bobo$8bo2bo65b3o2$8b3o70b2o$8bo15b2obo49bo2b3o$
7bo10b2o2b2obob2o47b2ob2o$7b2o9bo2b6ob3o45bo4b3ob3o$9bo6bo3b2o2bo3b3o
46b2ob4o$7bobo5b2o6bo5b2o20bo26bo3bob2o$10bo2bo2bo6b3o6b2o4bob2o4bo2b
3o26bo2bo2b2o$6b3obobo3b2o13b2o2b2obobo5bo2b2o27bo2bo2b2o$7bobo25bo5bo
4bo37b3o$11b2o2bo19b3o4b4o$13b3o20bo5b4o$37bo4b2o40b3o$38b2o45bo$84bo$
83b3o$83bobo$79bo2b2o$79b2o3bo$79bo3b2o$82b4o$82bo3bo2$82bo$79b2obo$
78b3o2bobo$79b2o2bob2obo5bobo$84b3o2bo3bo2bo$87bo4bo3bo$87bo2bobo$89b
2o2b2o$92bo$93b2o$94b2obo$97bo!
The new component connects the descending component to the tail of the ship.

Edit 2: I replaced the c/4 gray ship with a shorter version that uses a slightly shorter support for the front antstretcher.
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Re: Spaceship Discussion Thread

Post by winston » December 3rd, 2020, 3:34 pm

c/5 diagonal discovered with ikpx2 on 11/24/2020

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x = 62, y = 79, rule = B3/S23
5b3o$4bo3b2o$3b2o3bo$2bo5bo$bob2o4b2o$2o2bo6bo$3b2o2bo$3b2ob2o$4bo$5b5o5b2o$
6bo2b3o3b2o$9bob2o2b2o$9bo3b4o$10b8obo$9bo2bo6b3o$16bo3b2o$16bo4bo$16bo$17bob
o$19bo$19b2o2bo$19b2obobo2$24b2o$20b3o$20b2o2$21b3o$22b2o$22bo$22b2ob2o$23bo
3bo$23bobobo$22bo3bo$21b2o$20b3o2$22b3o$23b2o$23b2o$25b2o$25b3ob3o$24bo4bo$
23b2o4b3o$23bo7bo$24bo7b4o2b2o$32b5ob2o$33bobo$37bo$37b3o$35b2obobo$35b4obo$
34bo2bob2ob2o$35b2o3bobo$40b2o$38bo2bo$38b3o3bo$40b4ob2ob2o$45bo2bo$40bo2bob
2o$41bo7bo$47bo$49bob2o$51b2o$48b3obo$47bobo$48bo2$50b3o$50bo2bo$50b2ob3o$55b
o$53bo2b3o$53bob2ob4o$52bo2bo3b3o$51b3o$51bo3bo$52bo$54b2o!

2c/5 discovered with ikpx2 on 11/30/2020

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x = 23, y = 26, rule = B3/S23
19bo$17b4o$16bo3bo$16b3o$14bo2bo$14bobo2b2o$17bob2o$13b2ob2o2bo$
12b3o5b3o$12b2o2bobo$11b3o2bo$11b3o2b2o2bobo$13bob3o3bo$14bobo$11b
2ob2o$12b3o$9b2obo$9bo$7b3o$2bo4bobo$bobo2b2ob3o$o3bo5b2o$bob2o6bo
$2b2o6bo$2b2o$2bo!
I have been having a lot of fun with ikpx2. I believe there's lots more to be found!
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Re: Spaceship Discussion Thread

Post by MathAndCode » December 3rd, 2020, 10:40 pm

winston wrote:
December 3rd, 2020, 3:34 pm
2c/5 discovered with ikpx2 on 11/30/2020

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x = 23, y = 26, rule = B3/S23
19bo$17b4o$16bo3bo$16b3o$14bo2bo$14bobo2b2o$17bob2o$13b2ob2o2bo$
12b3o5b3o$12b2o2bobo$11b3o2bo$11b3o2b2o2bobo$13bob3o3bo$14bobo$11b
2ob2o$12b3o$9b2obo$9bo$7b3o$2bo4bobo$bobo2b2ob3o$o3bo5b2o$bob2o6bo
$2b2o6bo$2b2o$2bo!
Wow! Upon opening the pattern, I figured that you must have meant c/5 because diagonal spaceships cannot travel at 2c/5, but despite its shape, that is an orthogonal spaceship. The connection looks fairly thin in the middle, so I wonder whether at least one of the halves could be used in a smaller 2c/5 spaceship.
I have reduced the cost of universal construction to seventeen gliders and probably to sixteen. All that remains is for the universal operations to be found.

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Re: Spaceship Discussion Thread

Post by wildmyron » December 4th, 2020, 12:47 am

MathAndCode wrote:
December 3rd, 2020, 10:40 pm
winston wrote:
December 3rd, 2020, 3:34 pm
2c/5 discovered with ikpx2 on 11/30/2020

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x = 23, y = 26, rule = B3/S23
19bo$17b4o$16bo3bo$16b3o$14bo2bo$14bobo2b2o$17bob2o$13b2ob2o2bo$
12b3o5b3o$12b2o2bobo$11b3o2bo$11b3o2b2o2bobo$13bob3o3bo$14bobo$11b
2ob2o$12b3o$9b2obo$9bo$7b3o$2bo4bobo$bobo2b2ob3o$o3bo5b2o$bob2o6bo
$2b2o6bo$2b2o$2bo!
Wow! Upon opening the pattern, I figured that you must have meant c/5 because diagonal spaceships cannot travel at 2c/5, but despite its shape, that is an orthogonal spaceship. The connection looks fairly thin in the middle, so I wonder whether at least one of the halves could be used in a smaller 2c/5 spaceship.
The front end doesn't seem to be used in any smallish 2c/5 spaceships (jslife-moving/velocity-2c/5/ships-2c5-small.rle). The small backend is used in lots of different spaceships, but none of them are attached in quite the same way (there are quite a few different attachments). E.g.:

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x = 22, y = 16, rule = B3/S23
17bo$16bobo$15bo3b3o$10b3o3bob3o$8b2o7b2o$6b2obob2o$2bo3b2obo4bobo$b2o
2bobobob3o2bo$o3b3o3b2o4bo$b5o7b3o$2b3o8b2o$5bo$4b2o$3b2o$4bo$5bo!
The latest version of the 5S Project contains over 226,000 spaceships. There is also a GitHub mirror of the collection. Tabulated pages up to period 160 (out of date) are available on the LifeWiki.

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Re: Spaceship Discussion Thread

Post by MathAndCode » December 4th, 2020, 1:13 am

wildmyron wrote:
December 4th, 2020, 12:47 am
The front end doesn't seem to be used in any smallish 2c/5 spaceships (jslife-moving/velocity-2c/5/ships-2c5-small.rle). The small backend is used in lots of different spaceships, but none of them are attached in quite the same way (there are quite a few different attachments).
That spaceship has several weakly interacting components. I actually independently discovered the one shaped like a B-heptaplet.
I have reduced the cost of universal construction to seventeen gliders and probably to sixteen. All that remains is for the universal operations to be found.

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