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GUYTU6J wrote:
April 5th, 2020, 10:00 pm
Speaking of waves... Sorry for self-promoting but I guess the results here could be notable as well.
https://www.conwaylife.com/wiki/User:GU ... ning_waves
It's really nice to see a lot of these repeat-script waves, agars, and so forth collected in one place and LifeViewer-enabled. Thanks for doing that!

I especially like the superluminal effects with some of the really long-running patterns, like the "(11,2,1) done to a honeyfarm predecessor" toward the lower right. I guess most of these waves would be really difficult to find spaceship stabilizations for. Are there any that need little enough support and have the right speed that they could possibly be supported by glider collisions from an escort of rakes?

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Speaking of waves: Here is a c/5 wave (shown moving to the left):

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x = 159, y = 121, rule = B3/S23
4b3o$3b2o4b2o3bo$3b2o4b2ob2obo$5bo7bo$8b2obobo$9bo7b2o$11bo3b4o$12b3o 3b3o$18b3o3$17bo2bo$17bobo3bo$17b3o2b2o3b2o$21b3o2b2o$21b2o3bo$23b2obo
b3o$25bo5b2o$26bo2bob2o$30bob3o2$33bo$30b3o$36b3ob2o$30bobo3b5o$31bo3b
o2bobo$35b3obo$35b2o2bo5bo$39b5o$39b5o3bo$40bo4bobo$46bo2$45bo$43b2ob
2ob2o$44bob3o2bob3o$45bobo5bobo$48bo2bobob2o$49b3ob2ob3o$51b5o3bo2$57b
ob2o$59bobo$58b2o$58b2o4bo$57bobo3bo3b2o$58bo3bo$58bo3bo4bo$61bo2bob2o$62bobobob2o$65bo4b2o$70b2obo$66b2obo4bo$73bo2$71b3o$70b2o4b2o3bo$70b 2o4b2ob2obo$72bo7bo$75b2obobo$76bo7b2o$78bo3b4o$79b3o3b3o$85b3o3$84bo
2bo$84bobo3bo$84b3o2b2o3b2o$88b3o2b2o$88b2o3bo$90b2obob3o$92bo5b2o$93b o2bob2o$97bob3o2$100bo$97b3o$103b3ob2o$97bobo3b5o$98bo3bo2bobo$102b3ob
o$102b2o2bo5bo$106b5o$106b5o3bo$107bo4bobo$113bo2$112bo$110b2ob2ob2o$
111bob3o2bob3o$112bobo5bobo$115bo2bobob2o$116b3ob2ob3o$118b5o3bo2$124b ob2o$126bobo$125b2o$125b2o4bo$124bobo3bo3b2o$125bo3bo$125bo3bo4bo$128b
o2bob2o$129bobobob2o$132bo4b2o$137b2obo$133b2obo4bo$140bo2$138b3o$137b 2o4b2o3bo$137b2o4b2ob2obo$139bo7bo$142b2obobo$143bo7b2o$145bo3b4o$146b 3o3b3o$152b3o!

Could you help me to find completions?

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I don't have the scripts necessary to complete waves. However, I just found a new 2c/5 spaceship. What makes it special is that in one of its phases, it is only 8 cells thick.

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x = 8, y = 30, rule = B3/S23
3o$o2bo$2b2o$o$6o$o5b2o$o4b3o$7bo$4b3o$b4obo$3b2ob2o$5bobo$4b4o$3b2o$
3bobo2$2bo2bo$2b2o$4bo$2b2obo$2bobo$5b2o$5bo$5bo$3b2o$3b2o$2bobo$2b2o$3b2o$2bo!


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yaochen2 wrote:
April 7th, 2020, 12:57 pm
I don't have the scripts necessary to complete waves. However, I just found a new 2c/5 spaceship. What makes it special is that in one of its phases, it is only 8 cells thick.

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x = 8, y = 30, rule = B3/S23
3o$o2bo$2b2o$o$6o$o5b2o$o4b3o$7bo$4b3o$b4obo$3b2ob2o$5bobo$4b4o$3b2o$
3bobo2$2bo2bo$2b2o$4bo$2b2obo$2bobo$5b2o$5bo$5bo$3b2o$3b2o$2bobo$2b2o$3b2o$2bo!

It's not new. It's already in the jslife collection.

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Hunting wrote:
April 7th, 2020, 9:56 pm
yaochen2 wrote:
April 7th, 2020, 12:57 pm
I don't have the scripts necessary to complete waves. However, I just found a new 2c/5 spaceship. What makes it special is that in one of its phases, it is only 8 cells thick.

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x = 8, y = 30, rule = B3/S23
3o$o2bo$2b2o$o$6o$o5b2o$o4b3o$7bo$4b3o$b4obo$3b2ob2o$5bobo$4b4o$3b2o$
3bobo2$2bo2bo$2b2o$4bo$2b2obo$2bobo$5b2o$5bo$5bo$3b2o$3b2o$2bobo$2b2o$3b2o$2bo!

Please, check the collections before saying "I found a new blah blah blah". A spaceship with such a small size is obviously not new. Please stop spamming. Please.
> 5 posts
> spamming
He's not spamming.

But yeah check the collections first and most small ships of 2c/5, c/2, c/3 are known.
The "A spaceship with such a small size is obviously not new." is false, take a look at the copperhead. We havent yet ruled out a 3c/23o ship in a 15x15 bounding box.
Hunting wrote:You contributes [sic] nothing to CA. For example, in the script thread, you ask other people to do all the things for you. No one will specifically design a script just for you to run. Now, you began to post unconstructive comments "I don't have the scripts necessary to complete waves" and claim false discoveries.
Stop it Hunting, if you can't be nice to new users then it is better for you to just not say anything. Everyone started as a noob, and we learn from our mistakes.

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https://conwaylife.com/wiki/User:Sokwe/ ... p_searches
Says that there is a positive result for c/7o at width 21 gutter. Where is that? Editing mistake? (Section zfind 2.0)

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o3b2ob2obo3b2o2b2o$bo3b2obob3o3bo2bo$2bo2b3o5b3ob4o$3o3bo2bo2b3o3b3o$
4bo4bobo4bo$2o2b2o2b4obo2bo3bo$2ob4o3bo2bo2bo2bo$b2o3bobob2o$3bobobo5b
obobobo$3bobobob2o3bo2bobo!  (Check gen 3) Add your computer to the Table of Lifeenthusiast Computers! Hunting Posts: 2949 Joined: September 11th, 2017, 2:54 am ### Re: Spaceship Discussion Thread Saka wrote: April 7th, 2020, 10:00 pm To make this post more worthwhile, this page: https://conwaylife.com/wiki/User:Sokwe/ ... p_searches Says that there is a positive result for c/7o at width 21 gutter. Where is that? Editing mistake? (Section zfind 2.0) It's probably a pair of loafers. Code: Select all x = 19, y = 9, rule = B3/S23 bo15bo$obo13bobo$o2bo11bo2bo$b2o13b2o2$o5bo5bo5bo$bo3bobo3bobo3bo$2o3b o2bobo2bo3b2o$o3b2o2bobo2b2o3bo!

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Is it possible to make a 2c/6o spaceship using the following frontend?

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x = 22, y = 9, rule = B3/S23
3bo14bo$2bobo12bobo$bo3bo10bo3bo$2b3o12b3o2$bo3b2o9bo3b2o$2o3bo9b2o3b 2o$2o4b3o5bo$o7bo!  The ENEERG-y of the EVAD is watching. The 70th NAI-ve guy is watching. Please click here for my own pages. Also, please apgsearch B34t5y7/S23 (B-life) BlinkerSpawn Posts: 1964 Joined: November 8th, 2014, 8:48 pm Location: Getting a snacker from R-Bee's ### Re: Spaceship Discussion Thread Entity Valkyrie 2 wrote: April 8th, 2020, 6:39 am Is it possible to make a 2c/6o spaceship using the following frontend? Code: Select all x = 22, y = 9, rule = B3/S23 3bo14bo$2bobo12bobo$bo3bo10bo3bo$2b3o12b3o2$bo3b2o9bo3b2o$2o3bo9b2o3b
2o$2o4b3o5bo$o7bo!

I would be inclined to answer "no".
The rest of the ship would have to stay directly behind the HF predecessor even in its hassled state, which would interfere with its return to its original state in gens 4-6. You'd have much better luck inhibiting the extra bit that hassles the HF predecessor such that you get a symmetrical front end, and indeed there are several c/3s with that front end.
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Thanks for giving me the idea.

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x = 33, y = 50, rule = B3/S23
18b3o$17bo$16b2o$10bob2o2b2o2b3o$9b2ob2ob2o5bo4b2o$8bo2b2o3bob2o4b2ob 2o$14b4o6b2o3bo$10bobob2o8b2o$12bo$9b2o$8b2o2bo$10b3ob2o$6bo2bo5b3o$7b ob4obo3bo$14b2o4bo6bo$15bo4b2o4b2ob3o$14bo3bo2b2o2b2o5bo$16bo2bobo2bo 5b2o$17bob3o4bo$18b3o2b3obo$17b2o3b3o$24bo2bo$25bo5$18b3o$17bo$16b2o$
10bob2o2b2o2b3o$9b2ob2ob2o5bo4b2o$8bo2b2o3bob2o4b2ob2o$14b4o6b2o3bo$
10bobob2o8b2o$2bo9bo$bobo5b2o$o3bo3b2o2bo$b2obo5b3ob2o$6bo2bo5b3o$7bob
4obo3bo$14b2o4bo6bo$15bo4b2o4b2ob3o$14bo3bo2b2o2b2o5bo$16bo2bobo2bo5b
2o$17bob3o4bo$18b3o2b3obo$17b2o3b3o$24bo2bo$25bo!  A for awesome Posts: 2036 Joined: September 13th, 2014, 5:36 pm Location: 0x-1 Contact: ### Re: Spaceship Discussion Thread A small 4c/8 beehive puffer that I'm not finding prior art for (crossposted from the Discord): Code: Select all x = 20, y = 34, rule = B3/S23 17bo$16b3o$2b3o3b3o5bob2o$2bo2bobo2bo6b3o$2bo7bo6b2o$2bo7bo$3bobo4bo3b o$6bo3bo2b3o$10bo5bo$7bobo$14bo$14b3o$bo12bo$3o3b3o5bo$ob2o2bo2bo$b3o
2bo6b2o$b3o2bo3bo2b2o$b2o3bo3bo2b2o3$7b4obo2bo3$8b2o$7bo2bo$8b2o2$8b2o$7bo2bo$8b2o2$8b2o$7bo2bo$8b2o!
Though not the smallest overall, it's smaller than the one in jslife-moving/c2-extended/c2-0008-puf.rle that forms the beehive in a similar way (although not quite as resilient), which might reduce some fuse-based constructions.
x₁=ηx
V ⃰_η=c²√(Λη)
K=(Λu²)/2
Pₐ=1−1/(∫^∞_t₀(p(t)ˡ⁽ᵗ⁾)dt)

$$x_1=\eta x$$
$$V^*_\eta=c^2\sqrt{\Lambda\eta}$$
$$K=\frac{\Lambda u^2}2$$
$$P_a=1-\frac1{\int^\infty_{t_0}p(t)^{l(t)}dt}$$

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Is there a collection of w19 symmetric c/5 ships?

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Large new C/5 d:

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x = 16, y = 231, rule = B3/S23
9bo$8b2o$7bo$5b3ob2o$4b2obo3bo$3bob3o$2b2obobob2o$3bob2obo$3bo2$2bo5bo$2bo4bo$bo2bo$b2obo$4b5o2bo$4bo2b2obobo$3b6obobo$3bo3bo$2b3o$2bo3bo3b
2o$2bo2bo4b2o$6bo3b2o$3b3o$5bo5bo$6bob2obo$7b4obo$8bo$6b3o3bo$4b2ob2o$
4b3o2b3o2$11bo$4bo$4b2o4bo$3bo$4b5o$4bo2$3b3obo$5bobob2o$3bob3o3bo$8b
3o$7b3o$6bobo$6bobo$6bo2bobo$3b3ob2obo$3b2obo$2bo7bo$b2o2bo2b6o$5b2ob 2obo$2bo2bo2b3obo$6bo3b2o$7bo2bo$10bo$2b4o$b2ob5o$2bob2obo$2bo$2b6o$2b o2b3o$2b2o4b2o$6bo4bo$6bo4bo$4b2o5bo$4bo3b2o$6bo4bo$4bo4b3o$4bobo$4bob
o$5bo3b2o$8bobo$7bo$7bo2bobo$6bo6bo$7bo4bo2$8b2o$7b2o2bo$6b2o4bo$6bo4b
o2$6bo2bo$2b3obo$5b4o$bo2bo4bo$4bobo4bo$b3o2bo4bo$b2o6b2o$5b3o$3b2o$3b
2o$bobo$2ob2o$2bobo$2bo2b2o$3bob3o$2bo3b2o$3bo$4b4o$3b5o$3bo2bo$4b2obo b2o$4b6obo$5bo3bo2$8b3o2$8bo2bo$8b3o$6b2o4bo$5bo2b2o3bo$5bo2bo2bobo$4b
2obo4bo$7bo$3bo2$b2o2bo$b2obo$2bo6bo$8bobo$3b2obobo$3bob2o$9bo$2b5o3bo
$2bo5b2o$4bo$2bo$3bo2bo$5b2o$5bo2$3b2o$3bo4b3o$4bo3b3o$7b2o$5bobo$4bo
2bo$3bo3bo$3bo2bo2$3b3o$3b3o2$b2o$bobobobo$4b2o$3bob3o$o4b2o$b2o2b2o$5bo2b2o$5bo3b3o$5bobobob2o$7bobobobo$b2o3bo2b2o$b2obobob3o$3b2obob2o$
4bob2o$4bo2bo3$2b3o$2bo2bo$7b2o$4b2o2bo$4b3o3bo$4bo5bo$2b2ob2o$3bob2o$
2bo3bo$2b6o$bo5bo$b2o3b3o$5bob2o$4bo2bo$5bo$5b2o$7b2o$4bob3o$3b2obob2o
$4b2ob2o$10bo$11bo$3b2o2bo3bo$3bob3o$3bo2bo2bo$9bobo$8b2o2bo$8bobo$3bo
3b4o2bo$b2obobo6bo$bo4bo$b2o8bo$4bo4bo2bo$4bo2bo3bo$10bobo$b3o5b2o$b2o
5b2obo$3bo$7bo$6bo$6bo$5b2obo$6bobo$5bo$3b3o2bo$2b2obo3bo$5bob2o$2bo2b o$2b2o5bo$2b6o$4bo4bo$4b2o3bo$3bo3b2o2$3bo2bo$3bo$3b2o$4bo$4b3o$5b2o2$7b3o2$10b3o$11bo$12bobo$13bo$14bo$14b2o$14b2o!

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HartmutHolzwart wrote:
April 11th, 2020, 11:24 am
Is there a collection of w19 symmetric c/5 ships?
There's a few of them in jslife, but I don't know if there's a full collection of them. Sokwe might know. I think C/5 w18 even symmetric ships were completely enumerated, but I don't know about w19 odd symmetric.

EDIT, really ridiculous looking ship:

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x = 258, y = 258, rule = B3/S23
30b2o$29bo2bo$29bo2b2o$28b3o2bo$28b3o2bob2o$29b2o5b2o$29b2o$30b5ob2o$
31b5o2$37bo$37b2o$39bo$31b3o2b3o$28b4obo2bo$28b3o3b2o2$35b2o$34b2ob2o$28b2o3bobob2o$27bo2bo2bo2b2o$27bo2bobo$30bobo2bo$27bobo2bo2bo$27bo5b2o
$29bo$28bo4b2o$28bo4b2o$28bo6bo$30b4obo$29b6o$34b2o$34bobo$33b2obo$32b
o4bo$31bo4bo$32bo$32bo3bo$33b2obo$31b2o3bo$28b2o3bobo$28b2o2$30bob3o$29b3obo$33bobo$34bobo$28bo3b4ob2o$28bobo4bo$26b3o3bo6bo$26b2o3bo3b4o$
31bo3bo$31b3o$30b3o$36b2o$31b2o3b3o$33bo2bobo$33bo2b2o$32b2o$36bo2bo$35bo2bo$37bo$29b2ob2o$29b2o2b2o$29b2o3b2o$28b3o4bo$28bobo$28b3o4bo$28b 2o4b3o$29b2o4b2o$29b2o3bo$28bo3bo$29b2o2bo$28b2o$27bo4b2o$27bo4bo$30b 3o$30bobo$29b2o2bo$31bob2o$32b2o$33bo$36bo$31bob5o$30b2o2b2o$30b2o2bob
o$34b4o$28b2o3b2obob2o$38bo$32bo$33bo2b2o2$38b2o$36b2obo$37bo$35bob2o$
33b2o3bo$34bo$33b2o2bo$35b2o2$30bo4b3o$30b2o$33bobo$29b2ob2o$29bobo$29bobo$29bobo$31b2o$28bo2bo$28bo3b2o$29bo4bo$26b2o6bo$30bo4bo$32b2obo 2$36b3o$36b3o2$31bo4b2o$30b3o$36b2o$32b3ob2o$32bo4bo$30bo4bob2o$30bo6b
o$36b2o$35bo$33bo$32bo2bo$33bo$35b2o$30bo4b2o$29bo5b2o$30bobo$32b2o2$31bo2b3o$31b6o$33b2obo2$33b2ob2o$34bo$35bo2bo$34bo3bo$33bob2obo$32bo2b 3o$36bobo$37b2o$31bo2b5o$31bobo2bo$29b3o2b2o$27b2o2bo$31bobo3bo$29bo2b 7o$32b2obo2bo$32b2obo$35b2o$32b3o$33bo$35b3o$35bobo$32b2o3bo$30b4obo$30bo4b2o$30b2o$36b2o$36b2o$36bo$33bo4bo$34b2o2bo$34b2o3bo$37b2o$33b3o
2$31bo$32b4o$35bo$35b2o$31bo5bo$31b6o$32b4o$35bo$31b2obob2o$30bo6bo$34b3o$29b2o2b2o$28bobo$28b2ob2o$28b2ob3ob2obo$30b2ob2o3bo$33b2obo2bo$
28bo6b4o$27bobo7bo$27bo8b2o$29b2o5b2o$29bobo4bobo$30b3o5bo$30b2o$32bo$
32b2o2$32b3o2$32bo2bo$31bo4b2o$31b2obo3bo$30b2o2bo3bo$32bob2o2bo$33bob o2bo$32bo$30b4o2bo$30b2o2b3o$31bo2b3o3$35b3o$35b3o$34b3o29bo19bo77b2o
4bo27bo9bo36bo$48b4o8b2o3bob2o16bob2o13b2o4b3ob3o18bo6b2o19b2o2bo3b2o 26bo3b2o4bo2bo27b2o4bobo$33bo6b2o10bo9b4o7b2o3bo6bo4b2o3b3o5b2o3b2obo
4bo14b6obob2o14bo2bo2b3o2bo3bo2bo21bo3bob2o3bo2bo12bo13b3o4bob2o2bobo$31bob2o4b3o2b3o5bo8b3ob2obo3bobo2bobo9b3obo3bo2bo2bo3b2ob3o3bob3o3b3o 4bo3b2obob2o14bobo5bo2bo2b3ob2o12b2o8bob4o3bo3bo6b3obob2o11bo2bo2b2o5b ob2o$29bo9b3o2b2o2b2o3bo11bo2bo3bo2b3ob3o2bob2o5b2ob2o2b4o2bobo2b2obo
4b2o3b3obobo2bo9b2o9bobobo3bo8bob2o13b3ob2o3bo8b2ob2obo4bo8bob2o4b2o2b
3obo6bo3bo$27bo3bo4bo2bo4b2o3b3o3bo10b2o3b2obob2o3bo2bob2o11bo3bo2bobo 4bob2ob3o14bo9b2o12b3o8b5o3bo8bobo3b2o15b2o2bo4bo4b4o2b2obo5bo2bo6b2o$
27bo8b2o8bobo6bobo8b3o2bo4b2o3bo2bo3bo5b2o2b2ob4o2bo4bo3bob2o2bo4bobo
5bo7bo3bo5b2o4bobo5bo2bo3bob4o3bobo8b2o3b3o3bo4bob3o2bobo4bo2b2ob2obo
3b2o4b2o4b2o2b3o$19b3o4bo2bo16b2obobobobob2obo7b2o4bob2o3bo12b2o3bob3o 7bo7bo2b2o4bo5b2obo5bo3bobo3bo14bo8bo2b4o2bo8bo3bo2bob2o2bobo3bo3bob2o bo3b2o5b3o7bo4b2o4b2o$17b5o3bo2bo5bobo7b3o3b3o6b3o5b3o4bo2b2o3bo9bobo
9b5o10b2o16b2o9b5o2bo16b3o3bo2bo20bob4o5bo4bo3bo4b2o14b2o4b2o6bo$16bo 28b2o3bo8b2obo4bo2b2obo18b3o11bo16bobo6b2o3bo6bo8bob2o15b2o5b3o3bob2ob 6o8bo4bo3b2o12b2o6b3o4b2o6b5o2bo$16bo2b2ob3o3bo3bo2bo25b2obo3b2obo31bo
2bo17bo21bo3b4o16bo8bo4b2ob4ob4o17bo2b2o9bo4bobo3bo3b2o7b6o$19b3obobo 2b2obo33bo2b3o34bo41b2o21bo13bobo2b4o15b3o5b2o11b3o6bo3b2o9b2o$20bo2bo
3bo5b2o28b2o40bo39bo36b2o23b2o24b2ob2o$20b3o3bo5bo112bo61b2o$18b2obo6b
o2bo$29bo$9b3o6b2o7b3o$12b2ob5o6bo2bo$8bob2o3bo2bo6b2obo2b2o$12b2obob 2o7b4ob2o$6b3o3b2obo2bo3b2obo2b2ob2o$12bo4bob5obo5bo$4bobo5bobo3bobobo
8bo$13bo8bo6b2o$3bo2bo12b4o$2b2obo11bo$2bobo11bo2b2obo$2o15b4obo$21bob
o$21bobo$23bo$19bobo$19bo$15bobobo$14bo$13bo3bo$14b2o$13b2o$12bo$12bo!  Wildmyron and I manage the 5S project, which collects all known spaceship speeds in Isotropic Non-totalistic rules. Things to work on: - Find a (7,1)c/8 ship in a Non-totalistic rule Sokwe Moderator Posts: 1637 Joined: July 9th, 2009, 2:44 pm ### Re: Spaceship Discussion Thread AforAmpere wrote: April 11th, 2020, 4:58 pm HartmutHolzwart wrote: April 11th, 2020, 11:24 am Is there a collection of w19 symmetric c/5 ships? There's a few of them in jslife, but I don't know if there's a full collection of them. Sokwe might know. I think C/5 w18 even symmetric ships were completely enumerated, but I don't know about w19 odd symmetric. I don't remember there being anything other than what's shown in jslife. A week of qfind searching (with the 'x' parameter to disable output while deepening). I'm not sure how well people have gotten LSSSS to handle finding multiple spaceships, but that might be another possibility. A complete knightt search for that speed and symmetry would probably take a very long time. I've wanted to update qfind to build the full search tree like knightt, but I haven't figured out how to handle search tree recombination, and I simply haven't had time recenty. By the way, nice work on those c/5 diagonal ships. There seem to be some loose connections that could allow for different completions. -Matthias Merzenich Sarp Posts: 213 Joined: March 1st, 2015, 1:28 pm ### Re: Spaceship Discussion Thread AforAmpere wrote: April 11th, 2020, 4:58 pm The backend was completed with a known part, but the LSSS search that found this is ongoing. I have continued AforAmpere's search, and found the new narrowest known (I think) c/5d, which I call the noodle: Code: Select all x = 14, y = 235, rule = B3/S23 9bo$8b2o$7bo$5b3ob2o$4b2obo3bo$3bob3o$2b2obobob2o$3bob2obo$3bo2$2bo5bo
$2bo4bo$bo2bo$b2obo$4b5o2bo$4bo2b2obobo$3b6obobo$3bo3bo$2b3o$2bo3bo3b 2o$2bo2bo4b2o$6bo3b2o$3b3o$5bo5bo$6bob2obo$7b4obo$8bo$6b3o3bo$4b2ob2o$4b3o2b3o2$11bo$4bo$4b2o4bo$3bo$4b5o$4bo2$3b3obo$5bobob2o$3bob3o3bo$8b 3o$7b3o$6bobo$6bobo$6bo2bobo$3b3ob2obo$3b2obo$2bo7bo$b2o2bo2b6o$5b2ob
2obo$2bo2bo2b3obo$6bo3b2o$7bo2bo$10bo$2b4o$b2ob5o$2bob2obo$2bo$2b6o$2b
o2b3o$2b2o4b2o$6bo4bo$6bo4bo$4b2o5bo$4bo3b2o$6bo4bo$4bo4b3o$4bobo$4bob o$5bo3b2o$8bobo$7bo$7bo2bobo$6bo6bo$7bo4bo2$8b2o$7b2o2bo$6b2o4bo$6bo4b o2$6bo2bo$2b3obo$5b4o$bo2bo4bo$4bobo4bo$b3o2bo4bo$b2o6b2o$5b3o$3b2o$3b 2o$bobo$2ob2o$2bobo$2bo2b2o$3bob3o$2bo3b2o$3bo$4b4o$3b5o$3bo2bo$4b2obo
b2o$4b6obo$5bo3bo2$8b3o2$8bo2bo$8b3o$6b2o4bo$5bo2b2o3bo$5bo2bo2bobo$4b 2obo4bo$7bo$3bo2$b2o2bo$b2obo$2bo6bo$8bobo$3b2obobo$3bob2o$9bo$2b5o3bo$2bo5b2o$4bo$2bo$3bo2bo$5b2o$5bo2$3b2o$3bo4b3o$4bo3b3o$7b2o$5bobo$4bo 2bo$3bo3bo$3bo2bo2$3b3o$3b3o2$b2o$bobobobo$4b2o$3bob3o$o4b2o$b2o2b2o$
5bo2b2o$5bo3b3o$5bobobob2o$7bobobobo$b2o3bo2b2o$b2obobob3o$3b2obob2o$4bob2o$4bo2bo3$2b3o$2bo2bo$7b2o$4b2o2bo$4b3o3bo$4bo5bo$2b2ob2o$3bob2o$2bo3bo$2b6o$bo5bo$b2o3b3o$5bob2o$4bo2bo$5bo$5b2o$7b2o$4bob3o$3b2obob2o$4b2ob2o$10bo$11bo$3b2o2bo3bo$3bob3o$3bo2bo2bo$9bobo$8b2o2bo$8bobo$3bo 3b4o2bo$b2obobo6bo$bo4bo$b2o8bo$4bo4bo2bo$4bo2bo3bo$10bobo$b3o5b2o$b2o 5b2obo$3bo$7bo$6bo$6bo$5b2obo$6bobo$5bo$3b3o2bo$2b2obo3bo$5bob2o$2bo2b
o$2b2o5bo$2b6o$4bo4bo$4b2o3bo$3bo3b2o2$3bo2bo$3bo$3b2o$4bo$4b3o$5b2o$
9bobo$7bob2ob2o$5b3o3b3o$6bo3bobo$3b2obobo$2bo4b2o2bo$bo6bob2o$5bo$b2o
4bo2bo$3b3obobo$10bo$6bo2bo$6bo2bo$7bo!  This also gives us this component Code: Select all x = 13, y = 19, rule = B3/S23 b3o$b3o$2b3o2$5bo$4b2ob3obo$11bo$5b2obo2b2o$3bo5bobo$b2obob3obo$b3obo
5bo$obo3bo4bo$3o3bo3bo$4bob2o2bo$bo3bo3bo$3bobo4bo$9bo$6b3o$6bo!
It can be used in place of this component

Code: Select all

x = 14, y = 15, rule = B3/S23
3o$3o$b3o2$4bo$3b2obo$8bo$6bo3bo$10bo$8bo2bo$10bo$13bo$10bo2bo$11bo$12bo! The new component has a quite sparky backend. WADUFI A for awesome Posts: 2036 Joined: September 13th, 2014, 5:36 pm Location: 0x-1 Contact: ### Re: Spaceship Discussion Thread Sarp wrote: April 13th, 2020, 7:29 am AforAmpere wrote: April 11th, 2020, 4:58 pm The backend was completed with a known part, but the LSSS search that found this is ongoing. I have continued AforAmpere's search, and found the new narrowest known (I think) c/5d, which I call the noodle: Code: Select all rle A reduction in population (which also applies to AforAmpere's recent ships): Code: Select all x = 29, y = 204, rule = B3/S23 26bo$25b2o$24bo$22b3ob2o$21b2obo3bo$20bob3o$19b2obobob2o$20bob2obo$20b o2$19bo5bo$19bo4bo$18bo2bo$17bo$11bo3b2o$10b4o$9bo7bo$8b5o$8bobobo$7b 5o4bo$6bo5bo2bo$5b2obo2bo$8bo2bo$9bo$3b2o$b2o4bo$bo5b2o$2bobo2b2o$b2o
4bo$b2obo2bo$bo$2b2obo2bo$7bo2bo$6bo3b3o$4b2o4bo$4bo5bo$5bo2bo2bo$10b 2o$3b2o5bo$4bobo$5bo3b2o$8bobo$7b3obo$6b2o$6b2o3b3o2$8bo$7b3o$6bo2bo$
6bobo2b2o$6b2o2$3bobo$3b2o3bo$2bo3b3o$4bo3bo$bo2bo5bo$bobobo5bo$bobob
obo2bo$2b5o$3bo2bo2$2o$2o2bo$2bobo$2bo4bo$2b3o$2b4obo$3b2o$7bo$3bo$3b
o4bo$3bo5b2o$7bo$4b2obob2o$8bobo$9bo$8bobo$8bobo$8b4o$6b2o2bo$5bo2b2o
3bo$5bob3o3bo$4b2ob2o3bo$4bobo2$2bo$b3o2$b3o5bo$3bo3b2o$3b2obo2bo$3bo b3o$2bo$2b4o2bobo$2bo6bo$3bo$3bo$5b2o$4b3o$5b2o$4bo$3b2o4bo$3bo4bobo$10bo$6b2o$7bo$4bo2b2o$3b2ob2o2$3bobo$3bobo$3bobo$2b3o$b2o$bobob2o$2b2o
3bo$7bo$b2o$bo2bo2bo$4b2o2b2o$4b2o5b2o$9bo$7bobobo$b3ob2o4bo$bo2bobo$
2bobobo3bo$4bobo$5b3o2$3bo$2b3o$2bobo$4b5o$4bo3b2o$3bo2bo2bo2$2b2o2bo$3bo3bo$2bo$b5obo$bo2bo$b2o$5bo$4b2ob2o$4b2o$5b3o$8bo$3b2obo$3bo5bo$3b
6o2$10b2o$3b3obo$2b2obob2o$4b5obo$9bo$8bo2bo$10b2o$2b2o3b2obo$b3ob2ob 2o$o2bobo$b2o$3bo6b3o$10b3o$2b2o5b2o$bobo4bo$bo6b2o$2bo5bo2$6b2o$6bo$
5b2o$6bo$5b3o$2b2ob2o$2b2obobobo$2b2obo2bo$2b3obobo$bo$2bo2b2obo$8bo$
3b3o3bo$4bo3bo$7bo2$2b2o$3b2o2$4bobo$4bobo$6bob2ob2o$7bobo3bo$5bob3o$
4bo7b2o$3bob2ob2obo$2b2o4bob2o$7b5o$b2o6b3o$2b2obo2bo$2b3obob3o$4b3ob 3o$9b2o$6b3o! It's worth noting that the ships coming out of this search are only tied for the second narrowest known, since Tim Coe's 63-cell ship is thinner by two rows: Code: Select all x = 12, y = 25, rule = B3/S23 2b3o$bo$o5bo$o5bo$b2obo$3o2bob2o$bo5bo$8bo$b2o$3o$o3b2o$3o$2o7b2o$bo5b
o3bo$b2obob2o2bo$bo4bo$2bo4bo2bo$7bobo$6bob2o$6bobo$7b2o$8bo$8bo$7bo$8b2o!! x₁=ηx V ⃰_η=c²√(Λη) K=(Λu²)/2 Pₐ=1−1/(∫^∞_t₀(p(t)ˡ⁽ᵗ⁾)dt) $$x_1=\eta x$$ $$V^*_\eta=c^2\sqrt{\Lambda\eta}$$ $$K=\frac{\Lambda u^2}2$$ $$P_a=1-\frac1{\int^\infty_{t_0}p(t)^{l(t)}dt}$$ http://conwaylife.com/wiki/A_for_all Aidan F. Pierce HartmutHolzwart Posts: 463 Joined: June 27th, 2009, 10:58 am Location: Germany ### Re: Spaceship Discussion Thread Congratulations! Here is an incomplete attempt to construct a c/5 grey stretcher: Code: Select all x = 231, y = 310, rule = B3/S23 29$133b2o5b2o5b2o5b2o$131bo3bo3bo2bo3bo2bo3bo3bo$131bo3bobob3o5b3obobo
3bo$131bo5b2o2b3ob3o2b2o5bo$131b2ob3o15b3ob2o$128bo2bo25bo$128b2o2bo3b
o15bo3bo$124b2o4bo2bo2bo15bo2bo$123b3obobo$123bo$125b2o$125b2o2$122b3o
$124bo$121bo3bo$121bo4bo$121bo$121b5o4$122b2o$121bobo$122bo$125bo$124b
2o$122bo$122bobo2$123bo$121b2obo2$120bo$120bobo$121bo$163bo7bo$123b2ob o9bobob2o15b2obobob2o3b2obobob2o$121b2obob2o7b2obo3bo3b2o6b3obob3o9b3o
bob3o$122bo5bo3bo3bob2o2bobob2o6bo3bobo5bobo5bobo3bo$124bobobo2bo2bo8b
obo3b3o6b2o6bobo6b2o$122b2o2bobobo3bo6bo13b2o9bobo9b2o$123bo2bobobo8b
2o8b2o4b2ob2o15b2ob2o$122b2ob2obo3bob5o2b3o15bo15bo$122b2o2bobob3o2b2o
5bo2bobo17bo$124bobobob2o10b2o4bo13b5o$123b2obobo18bo9bo2bo2bo3bo$123b 2obobobo15bo7b4o2bo2bob2o$110bo15bobobo18bo3bo9b4o2bobo8b2o$109bobob2o 5b3o3bobo3bo14b2obob5o3b3ob3obo3bo4b4obo$111bo3bob2o9bob2o20b2o6b2o7bo
2bo3bobo3b2o$108b2obobobobo3bo6bob2o15bo22bo2bob2o5b2o$110bobo2bobobo
8bo19b2ob2o23b5o$110bo3b2o9b2obo2bo$114b3o8b2obobo49bo$110b5o13bobobo 46bobo$110b4o6bo6b2ob2o47bob2o$110bo8bo2bo5bob2o49b2o$118bo3bo2b2obo
51b2obo$87bo7bo23bo3bo2bobobo54bo$81b2obobob2o3b2obobob2o9bo9b3o2bobob
o49b2o3bo$78b3obob3o9b3obob3o2b4obo8b2obobobo3bo47b2o3bo$78bo3bobo5bob
o5bobo3bo5bobo8b2obobobob2o50bobo$82b2o6bobo6b2o6b5o9b2obobobob2o48bo 3b2o$79b2o9bobo9b2o4b3o10b2o3bobo49b3o2b2o$79b2ob2o15b2ob2o17bo2bobobo 2bo46b2o2b2o$83bo15bo6b3o14b2obobobo46b3o2b2o$109bo14bobobobobo45b2o2b 2o$109bo8bo2b2obobobob2o50bo$111bo5bobob2obobobob2o$111bobo7bo2bobobo$111bobo5b2o2b2obobobo51b5o$109b4o4b2obo5bobobo51b2obobo12b2o5b2o5b2o5b
2o$108bobo6b3o6bobo3bo53b2o10bo3bo3bo2bo3bo2bo3bo3bo$108bo11b2o3b2obob
2o57bo8bo3bobob3o5b3obobo3bo$112bo4b3obo4bobob2o57b3o6bo5b2o2b3ob3o2b 2o5bo$112bo7bo2bo2bobo64b2o3b2ob3o15b3ob2o$109b2o2bo9b2obobo2bo61b2o3b o25bo$109b2o6bo4bobobobobo68bo3bo15bo3bo$109b2o10bo2bobobobobo67bo2bo 15bo2bo$110b2o6b2o2bobobobob2o$109bobo4b3obobobobobob2o$109bo6b2o2bo3b
obobo$108bo7b2o6bobobobo$109bo7bo3b2obobobobo$107b2o14b2obobo3bo$124bo
bobob2o$124bobobob2o$121b2obobobo$121b2obobobo2bo$124bobobobo$121b2obo bobobobo$124bobobob2o$121b2obobobob2o$113bob3o2bobobobobo$113b2o3b3obo bobobobo$115bo2bobobobobobobo$114b2ob2obobobobobo3bo$118bobobobobobob
2o$119b2obobobobob2o$118bobobobobobo$110bob2o3b2obobobobobo2bo$109b2ob
o3bobobobobobobobo$108b2obo2bobobobobobobobobobo$108b3o2b2obobobobobob
obob2o$110bo5bobobobobobobob2o$116bobobobobobobo$116bobobobobobobobo$
108bo4b2obobobobobobobobo$105bob4obobobobobobobobobo3bo$105bo4bobobobo
bobobobobobob2o$105bob2o3bobobobobobobobobob2o$106b5obobobobobobobobob
o$109b2obobobobobobobobobo2bo$110bobobobobobobobobobobo$109b2obobobobo bobobobobobobo$101b2ob2o4bobobobobobobobobobob2o$100bo3bo2b2obobobobob obobobobobob2o$103b2obobobobobobobobobobobobo$100bo2bob2obobobobobobob obobobobobo$102bo5bobobobobobobobobobobobo$107b2obobobobobobobobobobo 3bo$108bobobobobobobobobobobob2o$99b2o4b2obobobobobobobobobobobob2o$
98b3obobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$96b2o4bobobobobobobobobobobobobobo2b o$97bo4bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$98bo3bobobobobobobobobobobobobob obobo$99bo4bobobobobobobobobobobobobob2o$104bobobobobobobobobobobobobo b2o$101b2obobobobobobobobobobobobobo$93bob3o2bobobobobobobobobobobobob obobobo$93b2o3b3obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$95bo2bobobobobobobobob obobobobobobobo3bo$94b2ob2obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob2o$98bobobob obobobobobobobobobobobobob2o$99b2obobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$98bobob obobobobobobobobobobobobobo2bo$90bob2o3b2obobobobobobobobobobobobobobo
bobo$89b2obo3bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$88b2obo2bobobobobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobob2o$88b3o2b2obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob obob2o$90bo5bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$96bobobobobobobobobobob obobobobobobobo$96bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$88bo4b2obobobob obobobobobobobobobobobobobo3bo$85bob4obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo
bobobob2o$85bo4bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob2o$85bob2o3bob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$86b5obobobobobobobobobobobobobobob obobobobo2bo$89b2obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$90bobobobob obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$89b2obobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobob2o$81b2ob2o4bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob2o$80bo
3bo2b2obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$83b2obobobobobobobobob obobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$80bo2bob2obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo
bobobobobobobo$82bo5bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo3bo$87b
2obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob2o$88bobobobobobobobobobobo bobobobobobobobobobob2o$79b2o4b2obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobo$78b3obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo2bo$76b2o4b
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$77bo4bobobobobobobob obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$78bo3bobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobob2o$79bo4bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo bobobob2o$84bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$81b2obobobo bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$73bob3o2bobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$73b2o3b3obobobobobobobobobobobobobob obobobobobobobobobobo3bo$75bo2bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo
bobobobobobob2o$74b2ob2obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo bobob2o$78bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$79b2obo bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo2bo$78bobobobobobobobobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$70bob2o3b2obobobobobobobobobobobo bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$69b2obo3bobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobob2o$68b2obo2bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob obobobobobobobobobobobob2o$68b3o2b2obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo
bobobobobobobobobobo$70bo5bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo bobobobobobo$76bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
o$76bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo3bo$68bo4b2o
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob2o$65bob4obobob obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob2o$65bo4bobobobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$65bob2o3bobobobob obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo2bo$66b5obobobobobobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$69b2obobobobobobobobo bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$70bobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob2o$69b2obobobobobobobobobobobo bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob2o$61b2ob2o4bobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$60bo3bo2b2obobobobobobobobobob obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$63b2obobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$60bo2bob2obobobobobobobo bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo3bo$62bo5bobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob2o$67b2obobobobobobo bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob2o$68bobobobobobobobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$59b2o4b2obobobobobobobo bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo2bo$58b3obobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$56b2o4bobobo bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$57b
o4bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo
b2o$58bo3bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob obobobob2o$59bo4bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo
bobobobobobo$64bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob obobobobobobo$61b2obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobo$53bob3o2bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo bobobobobobobobobobobobobo3bo$53b2o3b3obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob2o$55bo2bobobobobobobobobobobobo bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob2o$54b2ob2obobobobobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$58bobobob obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo2bo$
59b2obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobo$58bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo bobobobobobobo$50bob2o3b2obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobob2o$49b2obo3bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob2o$48b2obo2bobobobobobobobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$48b3o2b2o bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo bobobo$50bo5bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo
bobobobobobobobobo$56bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob obobobobobobobobobobobobo3bo$60bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob2o$60bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob2o$58bobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$55bo2bobobobobobobobobob obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo2bo$56bobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$54bo bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo bobobobo$55b2obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo
bobobobobobobobob2o$55b2obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob obobobobobobobobobobobobobob2o$58bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$30b2o2b2o3bo2bo13bobobobobobobobob obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo13bo2bo3b2o 2b2o$30b2o2b2o3b6o11bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobo11b6o3b2o2b2o$19bo2bo22bo8bo3bobobobobobobob obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo3bo8bo22bo2bo$19b6o3b10o3b3o2bo8b2obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobob2o8bo2b3o3b10o3b6o$17b2o6bo2bo8bo2bo3b2o3bo5b 2obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo bobob2o5bo3b2o3bo2bo8bo2bo6b2o$16bo2bob2o2bo5b3obo4bo2bo4bobo7bobobobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo7bobo
4bo2bo4bob3o5bo2b2obo2bo$16bobobobobo4b3obo7bo3bo5bob2obobobobobobobob obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob2obo5bo 3bo7bob3o4bobobobobo$15b2ob2ob3o3b2o2bo6b2o4bobo3bo5bobobobobobobobobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo5bo3bobo4b2o
6bo2b2o3b3ob2ob2o$17bo3bo6bob2o2b2ob2o7b3o2bo3b2obobobobobobobobobobob obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob2o3bo2b3o7b2ob2o2b 2obo6bo3bo$17bob2o7bobo4bobo5bo5b2o7b2o3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo
3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3b2o7b2o5bo5bobo4bobo7b2obo$16b2obo6bobo2bo2bo2bobo 4b4o2bobobob2o71b2obobobo2b4o4bobo2bo2bo2bobo6bob2o$21bo4b2o2b2o2b2o2b
2o7b2o2b2ob2obo71bob2ob2o2b2o7b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o4bo$20b2o22b2o95b2o22b2o$
44bo97bo$45bo95bo$44b2o95b2o!

The upper right front part is borrowed from a c/5 wickstretcher by Matthias Merzenich (sokwe), also contained in his jslife-moving-master collection, as well as the rear corner oscillator parts.

Im sure, the right corner can be simplified a lot, but at least it works. Unfortunately, I have no clue how to complete the right wing! My naive search approaches all failed. So I could need some help.

Edit:

The pattern is not only incomplete, but faulty.

Meanwhile, here is a c/5 wickstretcher based on the same theme:

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x = 219, y = 257, rule = B3/S23
21$103b3o2$100b2o5b2o$99bo3b3o3bo$96b4obo5bob4o$95bobobob2o3b2obobobo$
95bobobob2o3b2obobobo$96b2obo9bob2o$97b2o4bobo4b2o$99bo3bobo3bo$99bobo
bobobobo$100b2obobob2o$101bobobobo$98b3o2bobo2b3o$97b3o2b2ob2o2b3o$97b o5bobo5bo$99b3obobob3o$103bobo$100b2obobob2o$103bobo$100bo2bobo2bo$99b o3bobo3bo$101bobobobo$101bo5bo$101b2o3b2o$99bob2obob2obo$99b3o2bo2b3o$99b2o3bo3b2o$96b2o13b2o2$98b4o5b4o$100bobo3bobo$96b3obobo3bobob3o$102b
5o$95bo2bo4b3o4bo2bo$99bo2bo3bo2bo$96bo2bobo5bobo2bo$97bobo2bo3bo2bobo
$103b3o2$104bo$104bo$103b3o2$97b2o3b2ob2o3b2o$96b2ob2o2bobo2b2ob2o$96b 2obobobobobobob2o$97bo13bo$98bob3o3b3obo2$53bo3b3o5b3o3bo16b2obobo21bo
bob2o16bo3b3o5b3o3bo$50b2ob5ob2o3b2ob5ob2o7b2obobob5o8b2ob2o8b5obobob 2o7b2ob5ob2o3b2ob5ob2o$48bob2obo5bobobobo5bob2obo5b2obob2o4bo7bobobobo
7bo4b2obob2o5bob2obo5bobobobo5bob2obo$47bo3bobo3b5ob5o3bobo3bobo5bo2bo 7b3o2bobobobo2b3o7bo2bo5bobo3bobo3b5ob5o3bobo3bo$51b3o5b2o3b2o5b3o5b2o
7b2o5b3obobobobobobob3o5b2o7b2o5b3o5b2o3b2o5b3o$48bo2bob3o13b3obo2bo2b 2o8b3o7bobobobobobo7b3o8b2o2bo2bob3o13b3obo2bo$50bo23bo12bo5b4ob2obobo
bobob2ob4o5bo12bo23bo$82bo3b2o3bo2bo3b2obobobobob2o3bo2bo3b2o3bo$63b3o
bo14b5o14bobobobo14b5o14bob3o$62bo3bobo13b3o5bo7bo2bobobobo2bo7bo5b3o 13bobo3bo$63b2o2b3ob3obo23bobobobobobo23bob3ob3o2b2o$48bo10b2o3bobobo 5bobo3bo16bobobobobobobobo16bo3bobo5bobobo3b2o10bo$47bob2obo5b3o6b4ob
2obo3bobo16b2obobobobob2o16bobo3bob2ob4o6b3o5bob2obo$47bobobobo3b4o2b 2o12b3ob2o15b2obobobobob2o15b2ob3o12b2o2b4o3bobobobo$47bob2o2bo23b3ob
2o18bobobobo18b2ob3o23bo2b2obo$47bob2ob2o2b2o20bobo18bobobobobobo18bob o20b2o2b2ob2obo$99bobobobobobo$97bo3bobobobo3bo$48b3o47b2obobobobob2o
47b3o$48bobo47b2obobobobob2o47bobo$48bo52bobobobo52bo$48b2o48bo2bobobo bo2bo48b2o$45b3o51bobobobobobo51b3o$44b3ob2o47bobobobobobobobo47b2ob3o$46bobo49b2obobobobob2o49bobo$45bobo50b2obobobobob2o50bobo$45bo4bo50bo
bobobo50bo4bo$45bo2bobo48bobobobobobo48bobo2bo$46bo4bo47bobobobobobo
47bo4bo$47bo3bo45bo3bobobobo3bo45bo3bo$46bo4bo46b2obobobobob2o46bo4bo$46bo3bo47b2obobobobob2o47bo3bo$48bo52bobobobo52bo$44bo53bo2bobobobo2bo 53bo$43bo3bo51bobobobobobo51bo3bo$14b2o5b2o19bobob2o49bobobobobobobobo 49b2obobo19b2o5b2o$6b4obobobo5bobobob4o10bobo54b2obobobobob2o54bobo10b
4obobobo5bobobob4o$5b3obobob2obo3bob2obobob3o7bo58b2obobobobob2o58bo7b 3obobob2obo3bob2obobob3o$5bo3bobo13bobo3bo7bo61bobobobo61bo7bo3bobo13b
obo3bo$6bob3o5b2ob2o5b3obo4bo3bo59bobobobobobo59bo3bo4bob3o5b2ob2o5b3o bo$6b2o21b2o4b2o62bobobobobobo62b2o4b2o21b2o$6b5o15b5o66bo3bobobobo3bo 66b5o15b5o$9b2o15b2o70b2obobobobob2o70b2o15b2o$98b2obobobobob2o$101bob
obobo$98bo2bobobobo2bo$99bobobobobobo$97bobobobobobobobo$98b2obobobobo
b2o$98b2obobobobob2o$101bobobobo$99bobobobobobo$99bobobobobobo$97bo3bo bobobo3bo$98b2obobobobob2o$98b2obobobobob2o$101bobobobo$98bo2bobobobo 2bo$99bobobobobobo$97bobobobobobobobo$98b2obobobobob2o$98b2obobobobob 2o$101bobobobo$99bobobobobobo$99bobobobobobo$97bo3bobobobo3bo$98b2obob
obobob2o$98b2obobobobob2o$101bobobobo$98bo2bobobobo2bo$99bobobobobobo$97bobobobobobobobo$98b2obobobobob2o$98b2obobobobob2o$101bobobobo$99bob obobobobo$99bobobobobobo$97bo3bobobobo3bo$98b2obobobobob2o$98b2obobobo bob2o$101bobobobo$98bo2bobobobo2bo$99bobobobobobo$97bobobobobobobobo$
98b2obobobobob2o$98b2obobobobob2o$101bobobobo$99bobobobobobo$99bobobob
obobo$97bo3bobobobo3bo$98b2obobobobob2o$98b2obobobobob2o$101bobobobo$98bo2bobobobo2bo$99bobobobobobo$97bobobobobobobobo$98b2obobobobob2o$98b2obobobobob2o$101bobobobo$99bobobobobobo$99bobobobobobo$97bo3bobobo bo3bo$98b2obobobobob2o$98b2obobobobob2o$101bobobobo$98bo2bobobobo2bo$
99bobobobobobo$97bobobobobobobobo$98b2obobobobob2o$98b2obobobobob2o$
101bobobobo$99bobobobobobo$99bobobobobobo$97bo3bobobobo3bo$98b2obobobo
bob2o$98b2obobobobob2o$101bobobobo$98bo2bobobobo2bo$99bobobobobobo$97b obobobobobobobo$98b2obobobobob2o$98b2obobobobob2o$101bobobobo$99bobobo bobobo$99bobobobobobo$97bo3bobobobo3bo$98b2obobobobob2o$98b2obobobobob 2o$101bobobobo$98bo2bobobobo2bo$99bobobobobobo$97bobobobobobobobo$98b
2obobobobob2o$98b2obobobobob2o$101bobobobo$99bobobobobobo$99bobobobobo
bo$97bo3bobobobo3bo$98b2obobobobob2o$98b2obobobobob2o$101bobobobo$98bo 2bobobobo2bo$99bobobobobobo$97bobobobobobobobo$98b2obobobobob2o$98b2ob obobobob2o$101bobobobo$99bobobobobobo$99bobobobobobo$97bo3bobobobo3bo$
98b2obobobobob2o$98b2obobobobob2o$101bobobobo$98bo2bobobobo2bo$99bobob
obobobo$97bobobobobobobobo$98b2obobobobob2o$98b2obobobobob2o$101bobobo
bo$73b2o2b2o3bo2bo13bobobobobobo13bo2bo3b2o2b2o$73b2o2b2o3b6o11bobobob
obobo11b6o3b2o2b2o$62bo2bo22bo8bo3bobobobo3bo8bo22bo2bo$62b6o3b10o3b3o
2bo8b2obobobobob2o8bo2b3o3b10o3b6o$60b2o6bo2bo8bo2bo3b2o3bo5b2obobobob ob2o5bo3b2o3bo2bo8bo2bo6b2o$59bo2bob2o2bo5b3obo4bo2bo4bobo7bobobobo7bo
bo4bo2bo4bob3o5bo2b2obo2bo$59bobobobobo4b3obo7bo3bo5bob2obobobobobobob 2obo5bo3bo7bob3o4bobobobobo$58b2ob2ob3o3b2o2bo6b2o4bobo3bo5bobobobobob
o5bo3bobo4b2o6bo2b2o3b3ob2ob2o$60bo3bo6bob2o2b2ob2o7b3o2bo3b2obobobobo b2o3bo2b3o7b2ob2o2b2obo6bo3bo$60bob2o7bobo4bobo5bo5b2o7bobobobo7b2o5bo
5bobo4bobo7b2obo$59b2obo6bobo2bo2bo2bobo4b4o2bobobob2o3bo3b2obobobo2b 4o4bobo2bo2bo2bobo6bob2o$64bo4b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o7b2o2b2ob2obo7bob2ob2o2b
2o7b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o4bo$63b2o22b2o31b2o22b2o$87bo33bo$88bo31bo$87b2o31b
2o!

Edit2:

... and the corresponding c/5 spaceship

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x = 220, y = 338, rule = B3/S23
17$110b3o2$107b2o5b2o$106bo3b3o3bo$103b4obo5bob4o$102bobobob2o3b2obobo bo$102bobobob2o3b2obobobo$103b2obo9bob2o$104b2o4bobo4b2o$106bo3bobo3bo$106bobobobobobo$107b2obobob2o$108bobobobo$105b3o2bobo2b3o$104b3o2b2ob
2o2b3o$104bo5bobo5bo$106b3obobob3o$110bobo$107b2obobob2o$110bobo$107bo
2bobo2bo$106bo3bobo3bo$108bobobobo$108bo5bo$108b2o3b2o$106bob2obob2obo$106b3o2bo2b3o$106b2o3bo3b2o$103b2o13b2o2$105b4o5b4o$107bobo3bobo$103b 3obobo3bobob3o$109b5o$102bo2bo4b3o4bo2bo$106bo2bo3bo2bo$103bo2bobo5bob o2bo$104bobo2bo3bo2bobo$110b3o2$111bo$111bo$110b3o2$104b2o3b2ob2o3b2o$
103b2ob2o2bobo2b2ob2o$103b2obobobobobobob2o$104bo13bo$105bob3o3b3obo2$
60bo3b3o5b3o3bo16b2obobo21bobob2o16bo3b3o5b3o3bo$57b2ob5ob2o3b2ob5ob2o 7b2obobob5o8b2ob2o8b5obobob2o7b2ob5ob2o3b2ob5ob2o$55bob2obo5bobobobo5b
ob2obo5b2obob2o4bo7bobobobo7bo4b2obob2o5bob2obo5bobobobo5bob2obo$54bo 3bobo3b5ob5o3bobo3bobo5bo2bo7b3o2bobobobo2b3o7bo2bo5bobo3bobo3b5ob5o3b obo3bo$58b3o5b2o3b2o5b3o5b2o7b2o5b3obobobobobobob3o5b2o7b2o5b3o5b2o3b
2o5b3o$55bo2bob3o13b3obo2bo2b2o8b3o7bobobobobobo7b3o8b2o2bo2bob3o13b3o bo2bo$57bo23bo12bo5b4ob2obobobobob2ob4o5bo12bo23bo$89bo3b2o3bo2bo3b2ob obobobob2o3bo2bo3b2o3bo$70b3obo14b5o14bobobobo14b5o14bob3o$69bo3bobo 13b3o5bo7bo2bobobobo2bo7bo5b3o13bobo3bo$70b2o2b3ob3obo23bobobobobobo
23bob3ob3o2b2o$55bo10b2o3bobobo5bobo3bo16bobobobobobobobo16bo3bobo5bob obo3b2o10bo$54bob2obo5b3o6b4ob2obo3bobo16b2obobobobob2o16bobo3bob2ob4o
6b3o5bob2obo$54bobobobo3b4o2b2o12b3ob2o15b2obobobobob2o15b2ob3o12b2o2b 4o3bobobobo$54bob2o2bo23b3ob2o18bobobobo18b2ob3o23bo2b2obo$54bob2ob2o 2b2o20bobo18bobobobobobo18bobo20b2o2b2ob2obo$106bobobobobobo$104bo3bob obobo3bo$55b3o47b2obobobobob2o47b3o$55bobo47b2obobobobob2o47bobo$55bo
52bobobobo52bo$55b2o48bo2bobobobo2bo48b2o$52b3o51bobobobobobo51b3o$51b 3ob2o47bobobobobobobobo47b2ob3o$53bobo49b2obobobobob2o49bobo$52bobo50b 2obobobobob2o50bobo$52bo4bo50bobobobo50bo4bo$52bo2bobo48bobobobobobo 48bobo2bo$53bo4bo47bobobobobobo47bo4bo$54bo3bo45bo3bobobobo3bo45bo3bo$
53bo4bo46b2obobobobob2o46bo4bo$53bo3bo47b2obobobobob2o47bo3bo$55bo52bo
bobobo52bo$51bo53bo2bobobobo2bo53bo$50bo3bo51bobobobobobo51bo3bo$21b2o 5b2o19bobob2o49bobobobobobobobo49b2obobo19b2o5b2o$13b4obobobo5bobobob
4o10bobo54b2obobobobob2o54bobo10b4obobobo5bobobob4o$12b3obobob2obo3bob 2obobob3o7bo58b2obobobobob2o58bo7b3obobob2obo3bob2obobob3o$12bo3bobo
13bobo3bo7bo61bobobobo61bo7bo3bobo13bobo3bo$13bob3o5b2ob2o5b3obo4bo3bo 59bobobobobobo59bo3bo4bob3o5b2ob2o5b3obo$13b2o21b2o4b2o62bobobobobobo
62b2o4b2o21b2o$13b5o15b5o66bo3bobobobo3bo66b5o15b5o$16b2o15b2o70b2obob
obobob2o70b2o15b2o$105b2obobobobob2o$108bobobobo$105bo2bobobobo2bo$
106bobobobobobo$104bobobobobobobobo$105b2obobobobob2o$105b2obobobobob 2o$108bobobobo$106bobobobobobo$106bobobobobobo$104bo3bobobobo3bo$105b
2obobobobob2o$105b2obobobobob2o$108bobobobo$105bo2bobobobo2bo$106bobob
obobobo$104bobobobobobobobo$105b2obobobobob2o$105b2obobobobob2o$108bob
obobo$106bobobobobobo$106bobobobobobo$104bo3bobobobo3bo$105b2obobobobo
b2o$105b2obobobobob2o$108bobobobo$105bo2bobobobo2bo$106bobobobobobo$104bobobobobobobobo$105b2obobobobob2o$105b2obobobobob2o$108bobobobo$106bobobobobobo$106bobobobobobo$104bo3bobobobo3bo$105b2obobobobob2o$105b2obobobobob2o$108bobobobo$105bo2bobobobo2bo$106bobobobobobo$104bob obobobobobobo$105b2obobobobob2o$105b2obobobobob2o$108bobobobo$106bobob obobobo$106bobobobobobo$104bo3bobobobo3bo$105b2obobobobob2o$105b2obobo bobob2o$108bobobobo$105bo2bobobobo2bo$106bobobobobobo$104bobobobobobob obo$105b2obobobobob2o$105b2obobobobob2o$108bobobobo$106bobobobobobo$
106bobobobobobo$104bo3bobobobo3bo$105b2obobobobob2o$105b2obobobobob2o$
108bobobobo$105bo2bobobobo2bo$106bobobobobobo$104bobobobobobobobo$105b
2obobobobob2o$105b2obobobobob2o$108bobobobo$106bobobobobobo$106bobobob
obobo$104bo3bobobobo3bo$105b2obobobobob2o$105b2obobobobob2o$108bobobob
o$105bo2bobobobo2bo$106bobobobobobo$104bobobobobobobobo$105b2obobobobo
b2o$105b2obobobobob2o$108bobobobo$106bobobobobobo$106bobobobobobo$104b o3bobobobo3bo$105b2obobobobob2o$105b2obobobobob2o$108bobobobo$105bo2bo bobobo2bo$106bobobobobobo$104bobobobobobobobo$105b2obobobobob2o$105b2o bobobobob2o$108bobobobo$106bobobobobobo$106bobobobobobo$104bo3bobobobo 3bo$105b2obobobobob2o$105b2obobobobob2o$108bobobobo$105bo2bobobobo2bo$
106bobobobobobo$104bobobobobobobobo$105b2obobobobob2o$105b2obobobobob 2o$108bobobobo$106bobobobobobo$106bobobobobobo$104bo3bobobobo3bo$105b
2obobobobob2o$105b2obobobobob2o$108bobobobo$106bobobobobobo$106bobobob
obobo$63b2o5b2o5b2o5b2o18bobobobobobobobo18b2o5b2o5b2o5b2o$61bo3bo3bo
2bo3bo2bo3bo3bo14b2o2b3obobob3o2b2o14bo3bo3bo2bo3bo2bo3bo3bo$61bo3bobo b3o5b3obobo3bo13b2ob2o4bobo4b2ob2o13bo3bobob3o5b3obobo3bo$61bo5b2o2b3o
b3o2b2o5bo13b2o7bobo7b2o13bo5b2o2b3ob3o2b2o5bo$61b2ob3o15b3ob2o14bo2b 2obobobobob2o2bo14b2ob3o15b3ob2o$61bo25bo2bo11bo2b4obobob4o2bo11bo2bo
25bo$62bo3bo15bo3bo2b2o10b2o3bobobobobobo3b2o10b2o2bo3bo15bo3bo$63bo2b
o15bo2bo2bo4b2o6b2o5bobobobo5b2o6b2o4bo2bo2bo15bo2bo$89bobob3o11b2obob ob2o11b3obobo$95bo10bobobobobobo10bo$92b2o11bo4bobo4bo11b2o$92b2o13bo
2bobo2bo13b2o$104bo3bobobobo3bo$94b3o5bo3b3obobob3o3bo5b3o$94bo6b4o3bo bobobo3b4o6bo$93bo3bo6b2o4bobo4b2o6bo3bo$92bo4bo4bo2bo4bobo4bo2bo4bo4b o$97bo3b2ob2ob2obobob2ob2ob2o3bo$93b5o4b4o2bobobobo2b4o4b5o$103bo4bobo
bobo4bo$106bobobobobobo$101b2o2b2obobobobob2o2b2o$101b2o2bo2bobobobo2b o2b2o$108bobobobo$106bobobobobobo$63b2o5b2o5b2o5b2o18bobobobobobobobo
18b2o5b2o5b2o5b2o$61bo3bo3bo2bo3bo2bo3bo3bo14b2o2b3obobob3o2b2o14bo3bo 3bo2bo3bo2bo3bo3bo$61bo3bobob3o5b3obobo3bo13b2ob2o4bobo4b2ob2o13bo3bob
ob3o5b3obobo3bo$61bo5b2o2b3ob3o2b2o5bo13b2o7bobo7b2o13bo5b2o2b3ob3o2b 2o5bo$61b2ob3o15b3ob2o14bo2b2obobobobob2o2bo14b2ob3o15b3ob2o$61bo25bo 2bo11bo2b4obobob4o2bo11bo2bo25bo$62bo3bo15bo3bo2b2o10b2o3bobobobobobo
3b2o10b2o2bo3bo15bo3bo$63bo2bo15bo2bo2bo4b2o6b2o5bobobobo5b2o6b2o4bo2b o2bo15bo2bo$89bobob3o11b2obobob2o11b3obobo$95bo10bobobobobobo10bo$92b
2o11bo4bobo4bo11b2o$92b2o13bo2bobo2bo13b2o$104bo3bobobobo3bo$94b3o5bo 3b3obobob3o3bo5b3o$94bo6b4o3bobobobo3b4o6bo$93bo3bo6b2o4bobo4b2o6bo3bo$92bo4bo4bo2bo4bobo4bo2bo4bo4bo$97bo3b2ob2ob2obobob2ob2ob2o3bo$93b5o4b
4o2bobobobo2b4o4b5o$103bo4bobobobo4bo$106bobobobobobo$101b2o2b2obobobo bob2o2b2o$101b2o2bo2bobobobo2bo2b2o$108bobobobo$106bobobobobobo$63b2o 5b2o5b2o5b2o18bobobobobobobobo18b2o5b2o5b2o5b2o$61bo3bo3bo2bo3bo2bo3bo
3bo14b2o2b3obobob3o2b2o14bo3bo3bo2bo3bo2bo3bo3bo$61bo3bobob3o5b3obobo 3bo13b2ob2o4bobo4b2ob2o13bo3bobob3o5b3obobo3bo$61bo5b2o2b3ob3o2b2o5bo
13b2o7bobo7b2o13bo5b2o2b3ob3o2b2o5bo$61b2ob3o15b3ob2o14bo2b2obobobobob 2o2bo14b2ob3o15b3ob2o$61bo25bo2bo11bo2b4obobob4o2bo11bo2bo25bo$62bo3bo 15bo3bo2b2o10b2o3bobobobobobo3b2o10b2o2bo3bo15bo3bo$63bo2bo15bo2bo2bo
4b2o6b2o5bobobobo5b2o6b2o4bo2bo2bo15bo2bo$89bobob3o11b2obobob2o11b3obo bo$95bo10bobobobobobo10bo$92b2o11bo4bobo4bo11b2o$92b2o13bo2bobo2bo13b
2o$104bo3bobobobo3bo$94b3o5bo3b3obobob3o3bo5b3o$94bo6b4o3bobobobo3b4o 6bo$93bo3bo6b2o4bobo4b2o6bo3bo$92bo4bo4bo2bo4bobo4bo2bo4bo4bo$97bo3b2o
b2ob2obobob2ob2ob2o3bo$93b5o4b4o2bobobobo2b4o4b5o$103bo4bobobobo4bo$106bobobobobobo$101b2o2b2obobobobob2o2b2o$101b2o2bo2bobobobo2bo2b2o$
108bobobobo$106bobobobobobo$104bobobobobobobobo$102b2o2b3obobob3o2b2o$
101b2ob2o4bobo4b2ob2o$101b2o7bobo7b2o$102bo2b2obobobobob2o2bo$102bo2b 4obobob4o2bo$101b2o3bobobobobobo3b2o$101b2o5bobobobo5b2o$106bobobobobo
4b2o4bo$10b2ob3o$4b2o8bob2o$4bob2o6bo$8bo5bo$4b2o6b6o$5bo3b2o2b2obo$11bo!  Wildmyron and I manage the 5S project, which collects all known spaceship speeds in Isotropic Non-totalistic rules. Things to work on: - Find a (7,1)c/8 ship in a Non-totalistic rule HartmutHolzwart Posts: 463 Joined: June 27th, 2009, 10:58 am Location: Germany ### Re: Spaceship Discussion Thread very squarish JP21 Posts: 991 Joined: October 26th, 2019, 5:39 am Location: PH ### Re: Spaceship Discussion Thread JP21 wrote: March 26th, 2020, 3:05 am Are there any more box-like spaceships? Code: Select all x = 56, y = 14, rule = B3/S23 2bo13bo21bo5bo5bo$2ob2o9b2ob2o15b3ob2o3b3o3b2ob3o$3b2o9b2o17bo21bo$6bo
5bo21b2o3b2ob2ob2ob2o3b2o$3b2obo5bob2o23bo2b2ob2o2bo$b3o11b3o19b2ob4ob
4ob2o$bobobobo3bobobobo16b2o17b2o$2bo5b3o5bo17b2o3bobo5bobo3b2o$bo3bob 2ob2obo3bo15bo5bo2b2ob2o2bo5bo$8bobo22bobo2bo3b2ob2o3bo2bobo$b5o2bobo 2b5o19bo5bobo5bo$bo4bo5bo4bo16b2ob2ob3o3b3ob2ob2o$34b2obo3bo2bo2bo3bob 2o$6bo5bo!

The way I consider box-like spaceships is that they are not hollow (they have many cells), has more than 1 cell at the edge of the spaceship (the cell is close to the corner of the ship). Basically, a solid spaceship that fills in a box nicely. It would be better if there are more than 5 cells at every edge of the boxship in every phases. I would like to see boxships at most speeds.

Are there c/4 (1c/4) diagonal spaceships that doesn't contain a glider like component at the front and are not glide-symmetric and not asymmetric?
AforAmpere wrote:
April 13th, 2020, 2:31 pm
I think this is a new 66 cell C/4 ship, as it doesn't seem to be in the latest jslife-moving list:

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x = 18, y = 15, rule = B3/S23
2bo8b2o$2o3bo4b3o2bo$2bo2b2o4b4o$5b2o$5bo8bo$4b2o8b3o$4bo2b2o2bobo2bo$4b2o4bo$10b2ob3o$4b2o8bob2o$4bob2o6bo$8bo5bo$4b2o6b6o$5bo3b2o2b2obo$
11bo!

Sadly, not a good boxship candidate.

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w14 (or margin = 16) for (3,1)c/8 was negative with LSSS. Best partial:

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x = 14, y = 25, rule = B3/S23
11bo$9b4o$9b2obo$8bo2bo$7b2obo$8bo3bo$7bobo$4b3obob2o$2bob3ob2o$2bobo 3bo3b2o$2bo2b5obo$3b2obo$4bob3o2bo$4b2obo4bo$6bobo2bo$4b2o2bo$b2ob2o4b
obo$o12bo$2ob3o4bobo$6bo3bobo$4bobo3b2o$2o4b2o2b3o$obob4o2bo2bo$8bo2bo$bo9bo!

Wildmyron and I manage the 5S project, which collects all known spaceship speeds in Isotropic Non-totalistic rules.

Things to work on:
- Find a (7,1)c/8 ship in a Non-totalistic rule

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A couple of ways for copies of Andrew Wade's 2c/7 component to replace part of Stephen Silver's weekender tagalong:

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x = 80, y = 46, rule = B3/S23
bo12bo7bo12bo8bo12bo7bo12bo$3o10b3o5b3o10b3o6b3o10b3o5b3o10b3o$3o10b3o
5b3o10b3o6b3o10b3o5b3o10b3o3$3bo3b2o3bo11bo3b2o3bo12bo3b2o3bo11bo3b2o 3bo$bob4o2b4obo2b3o2bob4o2b4obo8bob4o2b4obo2b3o2bob4o2b4obo$bob4o2b4o bo2b3o2bob4o2b4obo8bob4o2b4obo2b3o2bob4o2b4obo$16bo3bo38bo3bo$5b6o5b2o b2o5b6o16b6o5b2ob2o5b6o$4b2o4b2o5bobo5b2o4b2o14b2o4b2o5bobo5b2o4b2o$4b 2o4b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o4b2o14b2o4b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o4b2o$14b2o5b2o34b2o5b2o$13b 2o7b2o32b2o7b2o$13b2obo3bob2o32b2obo3bob2o$9b2o3bobo3bobo3b2o24b2o3bo bo3bobo3b2o$8bo2b2o2bo5bo2b2o2bo22bo2b2o2bo5bo2b2o2bo$9bo3bo9bo3bo24b o3bo9bo3bo$9b2o2bo9bo2b2o24b2o2bo9bo2b2o$9b2o2bo9bo2b2o24b2o2bo9bo2b2o$9bo2b2o9b2o2bo24bo2b2o9b2o2bo$10bo15bo26bo15bo$8bob2o13b2obo22bob2o13b
2obo3$10b3o11b3o26b3o11b3o2$9b2o15b2o24b2o12b2o$9b2o15b2o24b2o12b2o$10b
2o13b2o26b2o12b2o$9bo2b2o9b2o2bo24bo2b2o9bo2b2o$10bobobo7bobobo26bobo
bo9bobobo$9b3o2bo7bo2b3o24b3o2bo8b3o2bo$9b2o2b3o5b3o2b2o24b2o2b3o7b2o
2b3o$9b2o2b2o7b2o2b2o24b2o2b2o8b2o2b2o$8bo19bo22bo13bo$7bo21bo20bo13b o$7bo2bo15bo2bo20bo2bo10bo2bo$7bo2bo15bo2bo20bo2bo10bo2bo$8b3o15b3o22b
3o11b3o$9bobo13bobo24bobo11bobo$9b2obo11bob2o24b2obo10b2obo$8bobo15bo bo22bobo11bobo$6bobob2o13b2obobo18bobob2o8bobob2o$6bob2o17b2obo18bob2o 10bob2o$6b2o21b2o18b2o12b2o!
x₁=ηx
V ⃰_η=c²√(Λη)
K=(Λu²)/2
Pₐ=1−1/(∫^∞_t₀(p(t)ˡ⁽ᵗ⁾)dt)

$$x_1=\eta x$$
$$V^*_\eta=c^2\sqrt{\Lambda\eta}$$
$$K=\frac{\Lambda u^2}2$$
$$P_a=1-\frac1{\int^\infty_{t_0}p(t)^{l(t)}dt}$$

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Is this c/5o new / does it contain any new components? I mean, it's not in jslife...

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x = 12, y = 55, rule = B3/S23
2bo$b5o$o3bobo$obobobo$b2ob2o$2b3o$7bo$2b3o3b2o$2o2bo3bo$obo$2b4ob2o$b 2o2bob2o$2b3o2bo$2bo2bobo$3b2o$3b2o$b2o3b3o$ob2obo3bo$o4bob2obo$5b2o3b 2o$bo4bo$2b2o6b2o$7bo$6bo4bo$3bo5b2o$2b2o3b2obo$2bo2bobobo$3b2o$2b4o$b 2o$o2bo4b3o$bobo4bo$3bobobo$2bo5bo$2bo$6b3o$7b2o$3bobo$2bo2bo$2bo$5bo$3bobo$3bo2bo$5bobo$4b3o$3b3o$2bo2bo$3bobo$5bo$4b2o$4bo$5bobo$7bo$7b2o$
7b2o!

EDIT: Hartmut Holzwart over on the Discord said it's unfortunately not.
Anyway here's a one-cell miss

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x = 55, y = 13, rule = B3/S23
44bo5bo3bo$6b2o12bo14bo4b2obo5bo3bo$2o2bo3bo9bobo13bobo3b2obo4bo4bo$bo b2o3bo22b3o6b2ob2o3bo3bo$bo6bo3bo2b2o2bo6b2o4bo10b2o2b2obo$bo4bobo3bo 2bo4b2o4b2obobo3bo7b2o3bobo$5b2obo2bo6b5o3b8o5b2o2b2o3bo$2b3o3b2o2b2ob 2obo3b2ob2o2bob2obobobo2bo2b2obo3bo$7b2ob3o5bo5bo10bo4bo5bo4bo$6bo2b3o b2o4bo9b2o6bo2bo6bo3bo$6b4o2b3obo12bo8b2obo7b3o$10bobo2bo25bo7b2o$10bo
!


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o3b2ob2obo3b2o2b2o$bo3b2obob3o3bo2bo$2bo2b3o5b3ob4o$3o3bo2bo2b3o3b3o$
4bo4bobo4bo$2o2b2o2b4obo2bo3bo$2ob4o3bo2bo2bo2bo$b2o3bobob2o$3bobobo5b
obobobo$3bobobob2o3bo2bobo!  (Check gen 3) Add your computer to the Table of Lifeenthusiast Computers! A for awesome Posts: 2036 Joined: September 13th, 2014, 5:36 pm Location: 0x-1 Contact: ### Re: Spaceship Discussion Thread A pushalong for 77P6H1V1, found by slightly modifying a partial from an ongoing LSSS search: Code: Select all x = 91, y = 45, rule = B3/S23 89bo$88bobo$86b2o2bo2$85bo$82b2o2b2o$82b2o$82bo$80bobo$80b2o$78bo2bo$77bo4bo$76bo5bo$73bo3bo$72bobo3b2o$71b2ob2o$70b2o4bobo$69b2o7bo$68bo9b
o$69b2o$70bo$67bo3bo$66bobo$65bo3bob3o$69bo$63b2o$64b2o$60b4o2b2o$60b
2o2$59bo$57bo2bo$57bo2bo$56bo$25b3o9b2o11b4obo$13b2obo8bo11bobo3bo2bo
3b2o4b2o$3b2o8b2obo8b2o7b2o4bob2o2b2o2b2o$bo3bo3b3o3bob2o12b5o2bo2b2o
4bo4bo$bo3b2ob3o6b3o2b2obo4b2obo5b3o2bo4bobo2b2o$o7b2o9bo2b2ob2o3bo15b
2ob3o$4ob2o5bo4b7ob2o4b2o3b6o7bobo$2b2o8bo3bobo9bo2bo2bobobo2bo9b2o$7b o8b2o10bo3bobo2b2o5bo4bobo$8bo29bo11b2o$38bo! It's quite sparky, although I'm having trouble finding useful glider collisions with it that could assist in making a puffer. x₁=ηx V ⃰_η=c²√(Λη) K=(Λu²)/2 Pₐ=1−1/(∫^∞_t₀(p(t)ˡ⁽ᵗ⁾)dt) $$x_1=\eta x$$ $$V^*_\eta=c^2\sqrt{\Lambda\eta}$$ $$K=\frac{\Lambda u^2}2$$ $$P_a=1-\frac1{\int^\infty_{t_0}p(t)^{l(t)}dt}$$ http://conwaylife.com/wiki/A_for_all Aidan F. Pierce HartmutHolzwart Posts: 463 Joined: June 27th, 2009, 10:58 am Location: Germany ### Re: Spaceship Discussion Thread This looks like real progress! Congratulations! Goldtiger997 Posts: 599 Joined: June 21st, 2016, 8:00 am ### Re: Spaceship Discussion Thread A for awesome wrote: April 22nd, 2020, 10:14 pm A pushalong for 77P6H1V1, found by slightly modifying a partial from an ongoing LSSS search:... It's quite sparky, although I'm having trouble finding useful glider collisions with it that could assist in making a puffer. Finding useful collisions does seem quite hard. Here's a possible start (a stream of gliders is converted into 5 streams of gliders + a lot of junk): Code: Select all x = 573, y = 2368, rule = B3/S23 571bo$570bo$570b3o423$486bo$485bo$485b3o423$401bo$400bo$400b3o423$316b
o$315bo$315b3o423$231bo$230bo$230b3o423$146bo$145bo$145b3o47$3b2ob3o$b
obo3bob2o$2o8b2obo$4o4bo5bo$3bo4bobo3bo$bo4bobo$bo3b2obo4b2o$b5o2bobo
2bobo$2bo11b2obo$4b2o2bo3b3o2bo$3b2ob3o3bob2o$4bo3b3o3b2o$3b5o3bo2bo$
6bo4b2o2bo2b3o$12b2obobo3bo$7bo2bo2bo7bo2bo$8b2o3bobobo3bob2o$15b2o2bo
b4o$14bo5b3o3bo$12b2o2bo7bo2bo$14b2obo4bo3bo5b2o$14b2ob2o5bo4b2ob3o$15bob2ob2o3bo3b2o$17bo2b5o4b2o$16b2o2bo$17bo3b2ob2o7b2o$21b2o5bob2o3bo$28bobo3b2o$23bo3bo2bo4b2o$21b2o4bobo6bobo$21bo4b2o8bob2o$20bo2bo3b2o
13b2o$21bobo3b2o8b3o3bo$21bobo3b2o5b4obo$26bob2o3bo2bo$27bo2bobo2bo6b
3o$28bo2b3o10bo$31bo6b4o3bo$29bo8bo2bobo2bo$30b3o4bob2obo$31bo6b2ob2o$
33bobobo4bo3bo$32bo5bo5b3o$32bo2bo5bobobo4bo$33bob4o2bo3bo2b2obo$37b3o
2bo2b2o4bo$43bobo4b3o$50bo3bo$44b2o6b2o$44bo2b2o3bo$44bo4bo$46b2obo$47bo$49bo$49bo4$51b3o$51bo$52bo43$80b3o$80bo$79bo$82b2o$78bo2b3o$79b2o
$79b2o2bo$80bo$79bobo2$78bo2bo$79b2o$78bo$77b2o$77bobo$79bo$78bobo2b2o
$80bobobo$112b3o$79b2o31bo$82b2o29bo$82b2o$80bo2bo$80bobo$77bobo$76bob 3obo$75b2ob3obo$77bo4b2o3$79b4o$79bo2b2o$78bo3bo$80bo3bo2$78b2o2bobo$77b2o3b2o$76b2o3bo$76bobo3bob2o$77b2obobob2o$78bobobo$80bob2o$77bo2bo$
77b2o3$77b4o$77b4o$79bo2bo$77bo2b3o$76bobo6bo$75bo4b2obobo$75b2ob4obo 3$76bo$74b2obo$74bobo$73bo$73bo$69b3obo$68bo$69bo$67bobo$66b2obo$67b3o
$64bo3b2o$63b2o$60bo3b2o$58b2ob2o2bo$57bobob2ob3o$56bo2bo2bobo$56b3o6b 2o$55bo$56b2o$56b3o$54bo$53b3ob2o$55b3obo$51bo5bobo$50b3o$48bo3b2o$47b ob5o$47bo$47bo2$45b3o$43b2o$43bo$42bobo$43bo!