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Kazyan
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This methuselah has a MWSS in its final census.

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``````x = 7, y = 3, rule = B3/S23
2b2ob2o\$3o3bo\$bo!``````
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The possible answer to a periodic Herschel splitter:

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``````x = 9, y = 26, rule = LifeHistory
2.D.D.3D\$2.D.D3.D\$2.3D.3D\$4.D.D\$4.D.3D3\$5.C16\$3C\$.C\$.3C!
``````
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If there's a convenient way of putting the R-pentomino there with other technology, this might be something. As it stands, it's a curiosity.

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``````x = 56, y = 66, rule = B3/S23
5bo\$4bobo\$4bobo\$3b2ob2o7\$2bo5bo\$b3o3b3o\$bob2ob2obo\$3b2ob2o\$3b2ob2o\$3b
2ob2o11b2o\$19bo\$17bobo\$17b2o3\$7b3o\$7b3o2\$6b2ob2o\$6bo3bo\$7b3o\$b2o\$b2o4b
obo\$6bo3bo\$6bo3bo\$b2o3b5o\$b2o2b2o3b2o\$5b2o3b2o4\$5b2o3b2o\$5b2o3b2o\$6b5o
\$7b3o\$7b3o5\$3o5b3o35bo7b2o\$3o5b3o35b3o5b2o\$b2o5b2o39bo\$3bo3bo40b2o\$bo
2bobo2bo\$o3bobo3bo\$bo2bobo2bo\$b3o3b3o3\$3b2ob2o\$4bobo\$4bobo\$5bo40bo\$45b
2o\$46b2o\$51b2o\$50bo2bo\$50bo2bo\$51b2o!
``````
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Extrementhusiast wrote:The possible answer to a periodic Herschel splitter...
The original source is hard to track down, but this was investigated over a decade ago. Here's a gun by David Eppstein from 2003, using a previously-known p5 Herschel splitter:

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``````#C p675 gun, p225 -> Herschel splitter -> H-glider tripler, DE 2/26/03
x = 77, y = 97, rule = B3/S23
64b2o\$64b2o6\$69b2o\$69b2o\$56b2o\$55bobo\$55bo9b2o\$54b2o\$50bo15b2o\$50b3o
12b4o\$53bo12bob2o\$52b2o9b2o3b2o\$62bobo\$60bobobobo\$53b2o5bo3bo9b2o\$53b
2o7b2o10b2o2\$69bo\$70bo\$68b3o2\$71b2o\$71bo\$72b3o\$74bo2\$66b2o\$66bo6b2o\$
67b3obo2bo\$69bob3o\$42b2o\$24b2o17bo23bo2b2o\$25bo17bobo20bobo2bo\$24bo19b
2o20bobobo\$24b2o39b2obob2o\$15b2o46bo3b2o3bo\$15bobo48b2o2b2obo\$16bo45bo
3bobo2bobo\$66b2o2b3o\$63bo3b2o\$3b3o21b2o36b2obob5o\$2bo3bo20b2o37bobo2bo
2bo\$bo5bo58bo2bo\$11b3o53b2o\$o7bobo3bo\$o7bo\$15bo\$bo5bo2b5o\$2bo3bo4bo25b
2o\$3b3o32bo28b2o\$35b3o29bo\$35bo29bobo\$30b2o33b2o\$30bo\$11b2o15bobo\$11b
2o15b2o9\$47b2o15b2o\$46bobo15b2o\$46bo\$10b2o33b2o\$9bobo29bo\$9bo29b3o\$8b
2o28bo32b3o\$38b2o25bo4bo3bo\$62b5o2bo5bo\$61bo\$68bo7bo\$62bo3bobo7bo\$63b
3o\$69bo5bo\$48b2o20bo3bo\$48b2o21b3o\$32bo\$30bobo\$31b2o27bo\$11b2o46bobo\$
11b2o47b2o\$17b2o32b2o\$17b2o33bo\$51bo\$38b2o11b2o\$15b2o21bo\$15b2o5b2o15b
3o\$22b2o17bo!``````
There's also a known p6 version:

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``````x = 20, y = 40, rule = B3/S23
11b2o\$11bobo\$5b2o6bo\$2bo3bo2b4ob2o\$2b4o3bo2bobobo\$6b3o2b2obobo\$2b3o4b
2o2b2obob2o\$2bo2b4o2b2obobob2o\$5bo3b2o4bo\$6b3obob3o\$8bo3bo2\$10bo\$10bo
16\$15b3o\$16bo\$4bo2bo6b3o\$4bo\$3bo4bo\$2bobo2b2o\$2obo3\$o2bo\$2b2o!``````
When Bellman came out, I looked at this again to see if it might be possible to invent a custom still life to take the place of the spark. It seems vaguely theoretically possible, but it would have to take a very long time to recover completely, since it has to interact again around T=60 to suppress an R-pentomino -- I didn't see how to run any kind of reasonable search. Was I maybe being too pessimistic?

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codeholic wrote:Glider streams merger with repeat time p38
This can be used to reduce the size of the infinite glider hotel:

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``````x = 189, y = 190, rule = B3/S23
129bo\$129bo\$129bo\$126bob3obo\$112bo13b5obo\$111bobo12bobo\$110bo19b2o\$
109bo3bo16b2o\$113bo16bo\$109bo2bo16b2o\$110bob2o10b2o3bo\$104b2o5b2o16bo\$
104b2o22b2obo\$130bo4\$115bo\$113b2o2bobo12bob2o2b2o3bo\$96b2o17bo2bobo9b
2obo4b2o3bo\$96b2o19b2o12b2ob2o2b2o3bo\$138b2o\$43bo94bo2bo\$31bo11b3o74b
2o17bobo\$29b3o14bo23b2o48b2o18bo\$13bo14bo16b2o23bo\$13b3o12b2o38bobo86b
3o\$16bo47b2o2b2o34b3o21bo28bobo\$15b2o47b2o38bobo20bobo27b3o\$35b4o11b2o
52b3o20bobo11b3o\$35b2ob2o9b2o77bo\$16b2o15bo2bo2b2o10bo104b2o\$16b2o15b
3o3bo20b3o40b2o35bo14b2ob2o\$32bo2bo2bo63b2ob2o32bobo12b2o2b2o\$32bobo
21b2obobob2o36b2o2b2o33bo13b2o3b2o\$33b2o24bobo2bo36b2o3b2o46b2o2b2o\$
60bob3o36b2o2b2o49bobo\$55bo47bobo\$23b2o30bo5bo48bo\$23b2o7b2o21b2o13b2o
37b4o3b3o\$25bo6bo19b2o3b2o11bobo35b2ob2o3bobo\$23b3o8bo16bobo18bo40bo2b
3o\$22bobo8b2o16bo20b2o34bo3b2o\$23b2o4b2o19b2o4b2o8b2o41b4o\$22bo6bo24bo
2bo11bo39b3o\$22bo7b3o21b2o11bo\$20bo11bo30bo89b2o\$62b3o88b2o\$68bo\$62b2o
b3o\$13b2o48bob2o\$12bobo117b3o\$12bo119bobo\$11b2o119b3o\$66b2o5b2o70b2o\$
64b2obo5bo71b2o\$63bo3bo3bobo57b2o\$63bo2b2o3b2o57b2ob2o\$64b3o62b2o2b2o\$
65bo63b2o3b2o\$129b2o2b2o\$53bo77bobo\$21bo8b2o21b3o81b2o\$20b3o5bo2bo24bo
80b2o\$20bo7b2o4b2o19b2o\$12b2o20bo16b2o\$13bo18bobo16bo\$13bobo16b2o19bo\$
14b2o36b2o\$136b2o\$76b2o\$76bo57bo3bo\$12b2o60bobo57bo4bo\$12bobo49b4o6b2o
60bobobo8bo\$13b3o17bo15b2o6b2o5bo2b2o68bobobo5b3o\$14b2o15bobo15b2o4b2o
bobo4bo2b2o68bo4bo2bo\$11b2o18b3o21bo5b2o2bo2bo70bo3bo2b2o\$11b3o17bo23b
o3bo6b2o\$56bo5bo77b2o2bo\$21b2o36b3o81bobo\$12b2o7b2o33bo87b2o2b2o\$12b2o
6bobo33bo6b2o83b2o\$20b2o17b2o16bo4b3o13b2o\$19bo19bo14b3o4bobo2bo2b2o7b
2o\$3b2o5b2o7bobob2o15b3o11bo6b2o2b2o2b2o\$4bo5b2o8b2o2bo17bo22b2o\$4bobo
16bo63b2o5b2o\$5b2o17b3o60bo7bo\$9b2o15bo61b3ob3o44bo\$8bobo79bobo44b2o\$
9bo59b3o18bobo45b2o\$5bo65bo19bo\$4bobo63bo82b3o\$3bo3bo145bo\$2bo3bo147bo
\$bo3bo\$o3bo\$bobo17bobo\$2bo19b2o58b2o\$22bo58bobo\$81bo\$80b2o\$185bo\$185b
2o\$123bo60b2obo\$121b2o60bo2b3o\$53b3o66b2o58bobobo\$55bo125bobobo\$54bo
114b3o7b3o2bo\$169bo10bob2o\$170bo10b2o\$178bo3bo\$177bobo\$37bobo121bo15b
2o\$38b2o121b3o17b2o\$38bo125bo16bobo\$118b4o23bo17b2o11b2o5bo\$109b2o6bo
7b2o6bo11b3o28b2o5b2o\$108b2o7bo3b2o2b2o4b3o14bo\$110bo7bo2b2o7bo16bo\$
38b2o90b2o15bo2bo23b2o\$38b2o2b2o99bo7bo21bo2bo\$42bobo91b2o3bo3bo3bo26b
o\$43bo91b3o3bo34bo\$47bo88bo3bo5b2o17b3o5b2obo\$40b2o4b3o14b2o74b2o6bo
17bo2bo4b2o\$41bo3b3obo13b2o3b3o76bo17bo\$38b3o5bo3bo15b2o69bo5bob2o22bo
\$38bo8bo3bo19bo40b2o12bo10b2o2bo24bo2bo4b2o\$48bob3o13b2ob2o40bobo11b3o
11b2o26b3o4b2o\$49b3o59bo12bo2b2o32b2o6b2o\$50bo59b2o12bob2o32b3o3bob2o\$
68b3o55b2ob2o35b3o\$55b2o14bo51bo5bo4b2o31bo4b2o\$55b2o10bo4bo51bo4bo4bo
19b2o16bobo\$67bo5bo51bo2bo7bo16bobo18bo\$67bo5bo53bo7b2o16bo20b2o\$68b2o
2bo49bo8b2o19b2o4b2o\$67bobo51bo9bo24bo2bo\$68bo52b3o8b3o21b2o\$68bo65bo
30b2o\$47b2o116b2o\$47b2o\$84b2o\$83bo2bo28b2o\$87bo4bo21bobo\$88bo2bo2bo19b
o\$82b2o4bo2bo2bo18b2o\$80b2obo4bo5bo80b2o\$82bob3o4bobo81bo\$91bobo2b3o
74bobo\$43b3o48b2o77b2o\$41b2o56bo\$46bo47b2ob2o22b3o\$41b2ob2o15bo59bo2bo
42b3o\$60bobo58bo2bo30bo8b3obo\$61bo34b3o33b2o21b3o7b2ob2o\$43b3o53bo24b
2o4bo2bo24bo6b2ob2o\$46bo26bo21bo4bo24bo4b2o4b2o19b2o8bo\$42bo4bo10b3o
11bobo20bo5bo12b2o20bo16b2o\$42bo5bo23bobo20bo5bo13bo18bobo16bo\$42bo5bo
24bo22b2o2bo14bobo16b2o19bo\$43b2o2bo47bobo18b2o36b2o\$42bobo51bo\$43bo
37bobo12bo\$43bo27bo9bo3bo\$70bobo8bo3bo\$58b2o10bob2o9bob2o43b2o3bo20bo\$
55b2obobo7bo35b2o24b2ob2ob2o19bo\$55b3o6b4o3bo32b2o24bo7bo15b2o2bo11b2o
\$55b2o7b2o2bobo58b2o6bo16bo2bo12b2o\$69bo60b2o2b2o19bo\$130b2o2b2o\$73b2o
13b2o32b2o47b2o\$71bo2bo14bo28b2o2b2o47bo\$70bo3bo13bo28bobo38b2o12b3o\$
71b3o22b2o19bo23b2o16bo14bo\$87b3o6b2o18b2o23bo14b3o\$88bo53b3o11bo\$74bo
bo10b2o55bo\$73bo3bo\$71b2o\$71bo5bo\$70bo6bo\$70bo4b2o11b2o\$70bo17b2o\$70bo
3bo\$70bo3bo\$71bobo\$71b3o!``````
EDIT: Oops, the pattern is broken. But the idea works.
Last edited by codeholic on July 22nd, 2014, 3:16 am, edited 1 time in total.
Ivan Fomichev

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While messing around with my R + Pond -> MWSS + Loaf + HF reaction, I found a way to whack a developing honey farm so that a pentadecathlon forms. Here it is in glider synthesis form.

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``````x = 20, y = 27, rule = B3/S23
18bo\$17bo\$17b3o12\$o11bobo\$b2o9b2o\$2o11bo2\$11b2o\$11bobo\$11bo4\$9bo\$9b2o\$
8bobo!``````
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Three-glider collision produces a very prominent queen bee shuttle:

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``````x = 11, y = 13, rule = B3/S23
bo\$o\$3o3\$8bo\$8bobo\$8b2o3\$4b2o\$4bobo\$4bo!
``````
EDIT: This produces a fourteener:

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``````x = 5, y = 20, rule = B3/S23
3bo\$3bo\$3bo4\$2o\$2o2\$bo\$b2o\$obo7\$3b2o\$3b2o!
``````
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HWSS + G with MWSS as catalyst -> orthogonal HWSS + junk, also could be regarded as HWSS slow salvo recipe: boat+pre-pulsar -> HWSS.

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``````x = 14, y = 26, rule = B3/S23
2bo\$obo\$b2o11\$11b3o\$10bo2bo\$13bo\$9bo3bo\$13bo\$10bobo\$5bo\$4b3o\$3b2obo\$3b
3o\$3b3o\$3b3o\$4b2o!``````
Ivan Fomichev

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Double showcase:

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``````x = 11, y = 6, rule = B3/S23
8b2o\$2o6bobo\$2o8bo\$7b2obo\$6bo2bo\$7b2o!
``````
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I found this new variant of the p30 pre-pulsar hassler while experimenting with modifying Bellman to add symmetry constraints:

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``````x = 24, y = 17, rule = B3/S23
2b2o16b2o\$bo2bo14bo2bo\$bobo16bobo\$2ob2o14b2ob2o\$12b3o\$2ob2o7bobo4b2ob
2o\$bobo3b2o3b3o5bobo\$bobo16bobo\$2ob2o14b2ob2o\$3bo16bo\$2obo3b2o3b3o5bob
2o\$bob2o7bobo4b2obo\$bo10b3o7bo\$2ob2o14b2ob2o\$bobo16bobo\$bo2bo14bo2bo\$
2b2o16b2o!
``````

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MikeP wrote:I found this new variant of the p30 pre-pulsar hassler while experimenting with modifying Bellman to add symmetry constraints: ...
If you alter the casing slightly so there are two inducting Es/bi-tables (giving this fourfold symmetry), this looks like it could even be fairly easily glider-constructible.

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I'm curious with this pattern:

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``````x = 12, y = 12, rule = B3/S23
4b2o\$3bo2bo\$3b2obo\$6bo2b2o\$5bo3bobo\$b3o3bo3bo\$o3bo3b3o\$obo3bo\$b2o2bo\$
5bob2o\$5bo2bo\$6b2o!
``````
Tried placing eater around.

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``````x = 24, y = 24, rule = B3/S23
6bo\$6b3o\$9bo\$8b2o3\$10b2o10b2o\$9bo2bo9bo\$9b2obo7bobo\$12bo2b2o3b2o\$11bo
3bobo\$7b3o3bo3bo\$6bo3bo3b3o\$6bobo3bo\$2b2o3b2o2bo\$bobo7bob2o\$bo9bo2bo\$
2o10b2o3\$14b2o\$14bo\$15b3o\$17bo!
``````

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``````x = 26, y = 26, rule = B3/S23
17bo\$15b3o\$14bo\$14b2o4\$11b2o\$2o8bo2bo\$bo8b2obo\$bobo9bo2b2o\$2b2o8bo3bob
o\$8b3o3bo3bo\$7bo3bo3b3o\$7bobo3bo8b2o\$8b2o2bo9bobo\$12bob2o8bo\$12bo2bo8b
2o\$13b2o4\$10b2o\$11bo\$8b3o\$8bo!
``````

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``````x = 26, y = 26, rule = B3/S23
7bo\$7b3o\$10bo\$9b2o4\$11b2o11b2o\$10bo2bo10bo\$10b2obo8bobo\$13bo2b2o4b2o\$
12bo3bobo\$8b3o3bo3bo\$7bo3bo3b3o\$7bobo3bo\$2b2o4b2o2bo\$bobo8bob2o\$bo10bo
2bo\$2o11b2o4\$15b2o\$15bo\$16b3o\$18bo!
``````
x = 26, y = 26, rule = B3/S23
5b2o\$6bo\$6bobo\$7b2o2\$25bo\$23b3o\$11b2o9bo\$10bo2bo8b2o\$10b2obo\$13bo2b2o\$
12bo3bobo\$8b3o3bo3bo\$7bo3bo3b3o\$7bobo3bo\$8b2o2bo\$12bob2o\$2b2o8bo2bo\$3b
o9b2o\$3o\$o2\$17b2o\$17bobo\$19bo\$19b2o!
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This B+block->B+active junk:

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``````x = 11, y = 7, rule = Life
\$7.2A\$3.A3.2A\$2.3A\$.2A.A!
``````

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A B-heptomino turns into an MWSS via the power of love:

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``````x = 12, y = 13, rule = B3/S23
8b2obo\$9b3o\$10bo5\$b2ob2o\$obobobo\$o2bo2bo\$bobobo\$2bobo\$3bo!
``````
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Five 2c/5 spaceships can pull a bi-block.

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``````x = 688, y = 21, rule = B3/S23
bob2o161b2o2bo498bo\$5o166bo160b2o2b2o164b3o161b5o\$2o3bo160bo4bo165b2o
160b3o2bo160bo5bo\$3b2o163b2obo162b2obo162b5o164b2o\$3b2o164b3ob2o159bo
6bo158b2o164bo2bo\$6b4o160b6o165bo165b2o164b2o\$5bo3bo160b2o4bo158bo6bo
163bobo162b2ob2o\$4b2o2b2o160b3ob2o160bobob2o159bo3b2obo162b2obo\$o2bo3b
o158bo6b2o157bobo5b2o156bobo6bo158bo2bo3bo12b2o\$7o159b7o159b8o158bob7o
159b7o13b2o2\$7o159b7o159b8o158bob7o159b7o13b2o\$o2bo3bo158bo6b2o157bobo
5b2o156bobo6bo158bo2bo3bo12b2o\$4b2o2b2o160b3ob2o160bobob2o159bo3b2obo
162b2obo\$5bo3bo160b2o4bo158bo6bo163bobo162b2ob2o\$6b4o160b6o165bo165b2o
164b2o\$3b2o164b3ob2o159bo6bo158b2o164bo2bo\$3b2o163b2obo162b2obo162b5o
164b2o\$2o3bo160bo4bo165b2o160b3o2bo160bo5bo\$5o166bo160b2o2b2o164b3o
161b5o\$bob2o161b2o2bo498bo!``````
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Alexey_Nigin wrote:Five 2c/5 spaceships can pull a bi-block.
Ha! Nice base for a rubegoldbergian sawtooth!
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So I was messing about with smoke recently when I found this reaction, which when supplied with the sparks shown will reappear after 11 generations flipped over. Anyone know of a p11/p22 diagonal sparker?

The pattern:
x = 11, y = 9, rule = B3/S23
3bo\$5b2o\$4bo2bo2bo\$3b6o\$o2b2ob2o2bo\$2b6o\$o2bo2bo\$4b2o\$7bo!
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A reaction between a loaf and a TL may lead to a p20 oscillator:

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``````x = 27, y = 14, rule = LifeHistory
9.D15.A\$8.3D13.3A\$9.D15.A\$.D\$3D3.C15.A\$.D3.CDCD12.A.A\$5.C2DCD11.A2.A\$
4.2D2CD13.2A\$5.4D3.D\$7.D3.3D\$12.D\$4.D\$3.3D\$4.D!``````
To spin the loaf, place the cross it faces.
However, there's a drawback which will be likely to clot the oscillator period.
I found no 1-glider reaction giving enough blunt to destroy everything. And no 1-WSS neither.

Therefore, we'll need a lot of generations to reboot a quarter: At least 20 to destroy the blinks, and 20 others to trigger the light.
All that, hoping that the restarters don't interact.
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G+R -> R(1,1)+H

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``````x = 7, y = 13, rule = B3/S23
4b2o\$4bobo\$3bo2bo\$4b2o\$4bo6\$b2o\$obo\$2bo!
``````
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Two five-glider syntheses of a block on table:

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``````x = 49, y = 18, rule = B3/S23
8bo\$9b2o\$8b2o\$46bo\$17bobo26bobo\$17b2o27b2o\$18bo25bo\$6bo35bobo\$4bobo36b
2o\$5b2o2b2o\$8bobo36bo\$10bo30bo5bo\$41b2o4bo\$40bobo2\$b2o\$obo\$2bo!
``````
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towerator wrote:A reaction between a loaf and a TL may lead to a p20 oscillator...
I couldn't get it to work at period 20, but it does work at period 24:

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``````x = 50, y = 50, rule = B3/S23
20b2o9b2o\$21bo9bo\$20bo11bo\$20b2o9b2o\$21bo4bo4bo\$18b3ob9ob3o\$17bo2bo3bo
bobo3bo2bo\$17b2o15b2o\$23b2o3b2o2\$21b2ob2ob2ob2o\$20bo5bo5bo\$20b2obo5bob
2o2\$6b2o6bo10bo2bo5b2o\$5bobo6b3o9b3o5bo\$5bo11bo7b2ob2o2bobo\$ob2ob2o4b
2o3b2o8b3o3b2o8b2o\$2obo2bo3bobo14bo14bobo\$5bo4b2o32bo\$7b2obo26b2o4b2ob
2obo\$4bo2bo3b2o5b2o17bobo3bo2bob2o\$4bo2b3o2bo5b3o17b2o4bo\$6b2o4bo5b2o
19bob2o\$4bo2b3o2bo11b2o11b2o3bo2bo\$4bo2bo3b2o10bo2bo10bo2b3o2bo\$7b2obo
13bobo6bo3bo4b2o\$5bo4b2o13bo7b2o2bo2b3o2bo\$2obo2bo3bobo8b3o9bo3b2o3bo
2bo\$ob2ob2o4b2o7bo3bo5bo8bob2o\$5bo14bo3bo4bo8b2o4bo\$5bobo12bo3bo4bo3bo
3bobo3bo2bob2o\$6b2o8b2o3b3o9bo3b2o4b2ob2obo\$15bobo14bo11bo\$15bo17b3o6b
obo\$14b2o7bo11bo6b2o2\$17b2obo5bob2o\$17bo5bo5bo\$18b2ob2ob2ob2o2\$20b2o3b
2o\$14b2o15b2o\$14bo2bo3bobobo3bo2bo\$15b3ob9ob3o\$18bo4bo4bo\$17b2o9b2o\$
17bo11bo\$18bo9bo\$17b2o9b2o!``````
There is still a possibility that it works at period 20 based on this reaction, but someone would need to find a less obtrusive p5 volcano:

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``````x = 29, y = 38, rule = B3/S23
16b2o\$15bo2bo\$16bobo\$17bo2\$11bo\$8bo2bo\$4b3o2bobo\$7bo\$bo2bobo6b3o\$b4ob
2o\$5bo\$3bobo7b3o\$3b2o7b5o\$11bob3obo2\$5b2o7bo7b2o\$2bo2bo2b13o2bo2bo\$bob
obob2ob2o5b2ob2obobobo\$o2bobo4bo2bobo2bo4bobo2bo\$4obo8bo8bob4o\$5bo2bob
3obob3obo2bo\$2o3bobob3obobob3obobo3b2o\$bo2b2ob2o2bobobobo2b2ob2o2bo\$bo
bo2bob3o2bobo2b3obo2bobo\$2bobo5bo2bobo2bo5bobo\$4bob2o4bo3bo4b2obo\$6bo
15bo\$3bo2bo15bo2bo\$7b2o2b2o3b2o2b2o\$3bo3bobo2bo3bo2bobo3bo\$3bobobob2o
7b2obobobo\$6b2obo9bob2o\$5bo3bo9bo3bo\$4bob2obob2o3b2obob2obo\$2b3obo2bob
2o3b2obo2bob3o\$bo5b2o11b2o5bo\$b2o23b2o!``````
-Matthias Merzenich

towerator
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Sokwe wrote:
towerator wrote:A reaction between a loaf and a TL may lead to a p20 oscillator...
I couldn't get it to work at period 20, but it does work at period 24:

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``````x = 50, y = 50, rule = B3/S23
20b2o9b2o\$21bo9bo\$20bo11bo\$20b2o9b2o\$21bo4bo4bo\$18b3ob9ob3o\$17bo2bo3bo
bobo3bo2bo\$17b2o15b2o\$23b2o3b2o2\$21b2ob2ob2ob2o\$20bo5bo5bo\$20b2obo5bob
2o2\$6b2o6bo10bo2bo5b2o\$5bobo6b3o9b3o5bo\$5bo11bo7b2ob2o2bobo\$ob2ob2o4b
2o3b2o8b3o3b2o8b2o\$2obo2bo3bobo14bo14bobo\$5bo4b2o32bo\$7b2obo26b2o4b2ob
2obo\$4bo2bo3b2o5b2o17bobo3bo2bob2o\$4bo2b3o2bo5b3o17b2o4bo\$6b2o4bo5b2o
19bob2o\$4bo2b3o2bo11b2o11b2o3bo2bo\$4bo2bo3b2o10bo2bo10bo2b3o2bo\$7b2obo
13bobo6bo3bo4b2o\$5bo4b2o13bo7b2o2bo2b3o2bo\$2obo2bo3bobo8b3o9bo3b2o3bo
2bo\$ob2ob2o4b2o7bo3bo5bo8bob2o\$5bo14bo3bo4bo8b2o4bo\$5bobo12bo3bo4bo3bo
3bobo3bo2bob2o\$6b2o8b2o3b3o9bo3b2o4b2ob2obo\$15bobo14bo11bo\$15bo17b3o6b
obo\$14b2o7bo11bo6b2o2\$17b2obo5bob2o\$17bo5bo5bo\$18b2ob2ob2ob2o2\$20b2o3b
2o\$14b2o15b2o\$14bo2bo3bobobo3bo2bo\$15b3ob9ob3o\$18bo4bo4bo\$17b2o9b2o\$
17bo11bo\$18bo9bo\$17b2o9b2o!``````
There is still a possibility that it works at period 20 based on this reaction, but someone would need to find a less obtrusive p5 volcano:

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``````x = 29, y = 38, rule = B3/S23
16b2o\$15bo2bo\$16bobo\$17bo2\$11bo\$8bo2bo\$4b3o2bobo\$7bo\$bo2bobo6b3o\$b4ob
2o\$5bo\$3bobo7b3o\$3b2o7b5o\$11bob3obo2\$5b2o7bo7b2o\$2bo2bo2b13o2bo2bo\$bob
obob2ob2o5b2ob2obobobo\$o2bobo4bo2bobo2bo4bobo2bo\$4obo8bo8bob4o\$5bo2bob
3obob3obo2bo\$2o3bobob3obobob3obobo3b2o\$bo2b2ob2o2bobobobo2b2ob2o2bo\$bo
bo2bob3o2bobo2b3obo2bobo\$2bobo5bo2bobo2bo5bobo\$4bob2o4bo3bo4b2obo\$6bo
15bo\$3bo2bo15bo2bo\$7b2o2b2o3b2o2b2o\$3bo3bobo2bo3bo2bobo3bo\$3bobobob2o
7b2obobobo\$6b2obo9bob2o\$5bo3bo9bo3bo\$4bob2obob2o3b2obob2obo\$2b3obo2bob
2o3b2obo2bob3o\$bo5b2o11b2o5bo\$b2o23b2o!``````
Hmm... sure, I hadn't seen the problem this way, yet to tell the truth I wasn't even aware of the existence of such a pattern...

But I noticed a few things.
1. As the loaf is symmetrical, it can spin in both way, creating a... uh... loafhalflipflop?
2. furthermore, a combination between guns and volcanoes, as you call them, may lead to a pattern where the loaf goes to 180° or 270°, and then goes back to start without doing a full turn. However, this would be challenging, as we would need cornershooters and possibly need to sacrifice a volcano

2.5 EDIT: Hey no! Such a reaction actually pulls the loaf. However, it means that it could be used as the back of a 2c/x spaceship, working in a way not unlike the weekender, but backward.
... And the back of a spacship is always a challenge, right?
3. Hey, a new (?) rotor needs a new name. What about lightspin/lightflip/trafflip/loafspin?
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Two pure glider generators:

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``````x = 69, y = 12, rule = B3/S23
6bo51b2o\$4bobo51b2o\$5b2o2\$65b3o\$15bo50bo\$13b2o51b3o\$14b2o2\$bo\$2bo\$3o!
``````
Pi and glider produce big S:

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``````x = 9, y = 7, rule = B3/S23
6bobo\$6bobo\$6b3o2\$bo\$2bo\$3o!
``````
Messy partial for an Rx380 conduit:

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``````x = 18, y = 22, rule = B3/S23
4b2o\$4b2o10\$14b3o\$15bo\$15b3o5\$o\$3o\$2bo\$2bo!
``````
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B-heptomino deletes a loaf with no damage to itself.

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``````x = 9, y = 12, rule = B3/S23
2bo\$bobo\$o2bo\$b2o6\$7bo\$6b3o\$5b2obo!
``````
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``````x = 49, y = 20, rule = B3/S23