Thread For Your Accidental Discoveries

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Re: Thread For Your Accidental Discoveries

Post by mniemiec » June 25th, 2015, 5:27 pm

gmc_nxtman wrote:Anyways, here is a reaction between a boat and some junk to produce an 11-snake (which probably isn't helpful)
I call this "snake with feather". "11-snake" would be a snake whose body is lengthened by 5 cells. The junk looks highly artificial, and not worth synthesizing. However, a simple predecessor from the above reaction can be formed from a block, a honeyfarm, and an exploded block. Replacing the block by a glider and the exploded block by a slightly different one gives this:

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x = 5, y = 15, rule = B3/S23
3b2o$2bo$2bo$3bo2$b2o$o2bo$b3o$2bo4$b3o$3bo$2bo!
This would take around 7 gliders. Since this still-life can already be built from 6 gliders, this reaction is interesting, but confers no advantage.
gmc_nxtman wrote:I also have this very clean stabilization of a glider-producing switch engine, with no debris, and just one backward glider:
There are a spurious block and blinker (i.e. debris) at the very back. In fact, this exact same census (with spurious glider, block, and blinker) is produced by the standard 5-glider synthesis:

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x = 58, y = 46, rule = B3/S23
56bo$55bo$55b3o7$2bo$obo$b2o25$3o$2bo$bo$28b2o$27b2o$29bo2$3b2o$4b2o$
3bo!
gmc_nxtman wrote:New induction coils aren't necessarily novel, unless they're smaller than previous ones. The smallest 4-cell induction coil is the block, and I could post the following induction coil as "new":
This is just one induction coil trivially (i.e. non-essentially) inducting another. Gluing together old pieces to make newer ones is rarely noteworthy, unless the combination possesses some functionality that the parts lack, or the combination arises from some natural reaction (like a soup or cheap glider synthesis), or is a necessary step in some other construction or synthesis. There are hundreds of Lego pieces, and these are interesting; there are billions of things one can make by combining Lego pieces, and most of these are not.
gmc_nxtman wrote:But it isn't really useful. No offense though. Just that still lifes/components of still lifes are less notable.
Exactly. This particular still-life is not particularly interesting, unless someone has some reason to try to construct it (either as part of some catalyst, like the ones found by Bellman, or just "because it's there").

On my web site, I have tried to show syntheses for most (if not all) objects and pseudo-objects up to a certain size, depending on periods (e.g. still-lifes up to 15 bits, pseudo-still-lifes up to 16,
P2 oscillators up to 18, P2 pseudo-oscillators up to 17, other oscillators and pseudo-oscillators up to 21 bits, and some up to 22-25 bits). The vast majority of these syntheses are boring and not worth noting, mostly being formed by cutting and pasting mechanisms from earlier syntheses. I include them for completeness, but most of them are the kind of things that aren't worth posting (let alone including on the Wiki). For the larger sizes, it's obvious that the vast majority of oscillators are merely larger variants of smaller oscillators that have already been synthesized. There are often a few that aren't (or that are variants with pathological geometries that resist known synthesis methods). These few are the ones worthy of attention. (For example, of the 57 22-bit variants of Silver's P5, one still eludes synthesis, making this otherwise uninteresting oscillator noteworthy).

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Re: Thread For Your Accidental Discoveries

Post by gmc_nxtman » June 25th, 2015, 5:52 pm

My main interest in Life (Conway's) is methuselahs or unstable objects with an interesting final census, which could lead to a glider synthesis and that the objects formation is non-trivial (unlike the "natural" schick engine) and small catalysts. I may try running Bellman, but will take a bit of work (installing linux).

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Re: Thread For Your Accidental Discoveries

Post by The Turtle » June 25th, 2015, 7:31 pm

A fuse producing gliders in the direction of the fuse:

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x = 2337, y = 2329, rule = B3/S23
10bo$10bo$11o$11bo$12bo$13bo$14bo$15bo$16bo$17bo$18bo$19bo$20bo$21bo$
22bo$23bo$24bo$25bo$26bo$27bo$28bo$29bo$30bo$31bo$32bo$33bo$34bo$35bo$
36bo$37bo$38bo$39bo$40bo$41bo$42bo$43bo$44bo$45bo$46bo$47bo$48bo$49bo$
50bo$51bo$52bo$53bo$54bo$55bo$56bo$57bo$58bo$59bo$60bo$61bo$62bo$63bo$
64bo$65bo$66bo$67bo$68bo$69bo$70bo$71bo$72bo$73bo$74bo$75bo$76bo$77bo$
78bo$79bo$80bo$81bo$82bo$83bo$84bo$85bo$86bo$87bo$88bo$89bo$90bo$91bo$
92bo$93bo$94bo$95bo$96bo$97bo$98bo$99bo$100bo$101bo$102bo$103bo$104bo$
105bo$106bo$107bo$108bo$109bo$110bo$111bo$112bo$113bo$114bo$115bo$116b
o$117bo$118bo$119bo$120bo$121bo$122bo$123bo$124bo$125bo$126bo$127bo$
128bo$129bo$130bo$131bo$132bo$133bo$134bo$135bo$136bo$137bo$138bo$139b
o$140bo$141bo$142bo$143bo$144bo$145bo$146bo$147bo$148bo$149bo$150bo$
151bo$152bo$153bo$154bo$155bo$156bo$157bo$158bo$159bo$160bo$161bo$162b
o$163bo$164bo$165bo$166bo$167bo$168bo$169bo$170bo$171bo$172bo$173bo$
174bo$175bo$176bo$177bo$178bo$179bo$180bo$181bo$182bo$183bo$184bo$185b
o$186bo$187bo$188bo$189bo$190bo$191bo$192bo$193bo$194bo$195bo$196bo$
197bo$198bo$199bo$200bo$201bo$202bo$203bo$204bo$205bo$206bo$207bo$208b
o$209bo$210bo$211bo$212bo$213bo$214bo$215bo$216bo$217bo$218bo$219bo$
220bo$221bo$222bo$223bo$224bo$225bo$226bo$227bo$228bo$229bo$230bo$231b
o$232bo$233bo$234bo$235bo$236bo$237bo$238bo$239bo$240bo$241bo$242bo$
243bo$244bo$245bo$246bo$247bo$248bo$249bo$250bo$251bo$252bo$253bo$254b
o$255bo$256bo$257bo$258bo$259bo$260bo$261bo$262bo$263bo$264bo$265bo$
266bo$267bo$268bo$269bo$270bo$271bo$272bo$273bo$274bo$275bo$276bo$277b
o$278bo$279bo$280bo$281bo$282bo$283bo$284bo$285bo$286bo$287bo$288bo$
289bo$290bo$291bo$292bo$293bo$294bo$295bo$296bo$297bo$298bo$299bo$300b
o$301bo$302bo$303bo$304bo$305bo$306bo$307bo$308bo$309bo$310bo$311bo$
312bo$313bo$314bo$315bo$316bo$317bo$318bo$319bo$320bo$321bo$322bo$323b
o$324bo$325bo$326bo$327bo$328bo$329bo$330bo$331bo$332bo$333bo$334bo$
335bo$336bo$337bo$338bo$339bo$340bo$341bo$342bo$343bo$344bo$345bo$346b
o$347bo$348bo$349bo$350bo$351bo$352bo$353bo$354bo$355bo$356bo$357bo$
358bo$359bo$360bo$361bo$362bo$363bo$364bo$365bo$366bo$367bo$368bo$369b
o$370bo$371bo$372bo$373bo$374bo$375bo$376bo$377bo$378bo$379bo$380bo$
381bo$382bo$383bo$384bo$385bo$386bo$387bo$388bo$389bo$390bo$391bo$392b
o$393bo$394bo$395bo$396bo$397bo$398bo$399bo$400bo$401bo$402bo$403bo$
404bo$405bo$406bo$407bo$408bo$409bo$410bo$411bo$412bo$413bo$414bo$415b
o$416bo$417bo$418bo$419bo$420bo$421bo$422bo$423bo$424bo$425bo$426bo$
427bo$428bo$429bo$430bo$431bo$432bo$433bo$434bo$435bo$436bo$437bo$438b
o$439bo$440bo$441bo$442bo$443bo$444bo$445bo$446bo$447bo$448bo$449bo$
450bo$451bo$452bo$453bo$454bo$455bo$456bo$457bo$458bo$459bo$460bo$461b
o$462bo$463bo$464bo$465bo$466bo$467bo$468bo$469bo$470bo$471bo$472bo$
473bo$474bo$475bo$476bo$477bo$478bo$479bo$480bo$481bo$482bo$483bo$484b
o$485bo$486bo$487bo$488bo$489bo$490bo$491bo$492bo$493bo$494bo$495bo$
496bo$497bo$498bo$499bo$500bo$501bo$502bo$503bo$504bo$505bo$506bo$507b
o$508bo$509bo$510bo$511bo$512bo$513bo$514bo$515bo$516bo$517bo$518bo$
519bo$520bo$521bo$522bo$523bo$524bo$525bo$526bo$527bo$528bo$529bo$530b
o$531bo$532bo$533bo$534bo$535bo$536bo$537bo$538bo$539bo$540bo$541bo$
542bo$543bo$544bo$545bo$546bo$547bo$548bo$549bo$550bo$551bo$552bo$553b
o$554bo$555bo$556bo$557bo$558bo$559bo$560bo$561bo$562bo$563bo$564bo$
565bo$566bo$567bo$568bo$569bo$570bo$571bo$572bo$573bo$574bo$575bo$576b
o$577bo$578bo$579bo$580bo$581bo$582bo$583bo$584bo$585bo$586bo$587bo$
588bo$589bo$590bo$591bo$592bo$593bo$594bo$595bo$596bo$597bo$598bo$599b
o$600bo$601bo$602bo$603bo$604bo$605bo$606bo$607bo$608bo$609bo$610bo$
611bo$612bo$613bo$614bo$615bo$616bo$617bo$618bo$619bo$620bo$621bo$622b
o$623bo$624bo$625bo$626bo$627bo$628bo$629bo$630bo$631bo$632bo$633bo$
634bo$635bo$636bo$637bo$638bo$639bo$640bo$641bo$642bo$643bo$644bo$645b
o$646bo$647bo$648bo$649bo$650bo$651bo$652bo$653bo$654bo$655bo$656bo$
657bo$658bo$659bo$660bo$661bo$662bo$663bo$664bo$665bo$666bo$667bo$668b
o$669bo$670bo$671bo$672bo$673bo$674bo$675bo$676bo$677bo$678bo$679bo$
680bo$681bo$682bo$683bo$684bo$685bo$686bo$687bo$688bo$689bo$690bo$691b
o$692bo$693bo$694bo$695bo$696bo$697bo$698bo$699bo$700bo$701bo$702bo$
703bo$704bo$705bo$706bo$707bo$708bo$709bo$710bo$711bo$712bo$713bo$714b
o$715bo$716bo$717bo$718bo$719bo$720bo$721bo$722bo$723bo$724bo$725bo$
726bo$727bo$728bo$729bo$730bo$731bo$732bo$733bo$734bo$735bo$736bo$737b
o$738bo$739bo$740bo$741bo$742bo$743bo$744bo$745bo$746bo$747bo$748bo$
749bo$750bo$751bo$752bo$753bo$754bo$755bo$756bo$757bo$758bo$759bo$760b
o$761bo$762bo$763bo$764bo$765bo$766bo$767bo$768bo$769bo$770bo$771bo$
772bo$773bo$774bo$775bo$776bo$777bo$778bo$779bo$780bo$781bo$782bo$783b
o$784bo$785bo$786bo$787bo$788bo$789bo$790bo$791bo$792bo$793bo$794bo$
795bo$796bo$797bo$798bo$799bo$800bo$801bo$802bo$803bo$804bo$805bo$806b
o$807bo$808bo$809bo$810bo$811bo$812bo$813bo$814bo$815bo$816bo$817bo$
818bo$819bo$820bo$821bo$822bo$823bo$824bo$825bo$826bo$827bo$828bo$829b
o$830bo$831bo$832bo$833bo$834bo$835bo$836bo$837bo$838bo$839bo$840bo$
841bo$842bo$843bo$844bo$845bo$846bo$847bo$848bo$849bo$850bo$851bo$852b
o$853bo$854bo$855bo$856bo$857bo$858bo$859bo$860bo$861bo$862bo$863bo$
864bo$865bo$866bo$867bo$868bo$869bo$870bo$871bo$872bo$873bo$874bo$875b
o$876bo$877bo$878bo$879bo$880bo$881bo$882bo$883bo$884bo$885bo$886bo$
887bo$888bo$889bo$890bo$891bo$892bo$893bo$894bo$895bo$896bo$897bo$898b
o$899bo$900bo$901bo$902bo$903bo$904bo$905bo$906bo$907bo$908bo$909bo$
910bo$911bo$912bo$913bo$914bo$915bo$916bo$917bo$918bo$919bo$920bo$921b
o$922bo$923bo$924bo$925bo$926bo$927bo$928bo$929bo$930bo$931bo$932bo$
933bo$934bo$935bo$936bo$937bo$938bo$939bo$940bo$941bo$942bo$943bo$944b
o$945bo$946bo$947bo$948bo$949bo$950bo$951bo$952bo$953bo$954bo$955bo$
956bo$957bo$958bo$959bo$960bo$961bo$962bo$963bo$964bo$965bo$966bo$967b
o$968bo$969bo$970bo$971bo$972bo$973bo$974bo$975bo$976bo$977bo$978bo$
979bo$980bo$981bo$982bo$983bo$984bo$985bo$986bo$987bo$988bo$989bo$990b
o$991bo$992bo$993bo$994bo$995bo$996bo$997bo$998bo$999bo$1000bo$1001bo$
1002bo$1003bo$1004bo$1005bo$1006bo$1007bo$1008bo$1009bo$1010bo$1011bo$
1012bo$1013bo$1014bo$1015bo$1016bo$1017bo$1018bo$1019bo$1020bo$1021bo$
1022bo$1023bo$1024bo$1025bo$1026bo$1027bo$1028bo$1029bo$1030bo$1031bo$
1032bo$1033bo$1034bo$1035bo$1036bo$1037bo$1038bo$1039bo$1040bo$1041bo$
1042bo$1043bo$1044bo$1045bo$1046bo$1047bo$1048bo$1049bo$1050bo$1051bo$
1052bo$1053bo$1054bo$1055bo$1056bo$1057bo$1058bo$1059bo$1060bo$1061bo$
1062bo$1063bo$1064bo$1065bo$1066bo$1067bo$1068bo$1069bo$1070bo$1071bo$
1072bo$1073bo$1074bo$1075bo$1076bo$1077bo$1078bo$1079bo$1080bo$1081bo$
1082bo$1083bo$1084bo$1085bo$1086bo$1087bo$1088bo$1089bo$1090bo$1091bo$
1092bo$1093bo$1094bo$1095bo$1096bo$1097bo$1098bo$1099bo$1100bo$1101bo$
1102bo$1103bo$1104bo$1105bo$1106bo$1107bo$1108bo$1109bo$1110bo$1111bo$
1112bo$1113bo$1114bo$1115bo$1116bo$1117bo$1118bo$1119bo$1120bo$1121bo$
1122bo$1123bo$1124bo$1125bo$1126bo$1127bo$1128bo$1129bo$1130bo$1131bo$
1132bo$1133bo$1134bo$1135bo$1136bo$1137bo$1138bo$1139bo$1140bo$1141bo$
1142bo$1143bo$1144bo$1145bo$1146bo$1147bo$1148bo$1149bo$1150bo$1151bo$
1152bo$1153bo$1154bo$1155bo$1156bo$1157bo$1158bo$1159bo$1160bo$1161bo$
1162bo$1163bo$1164bo$1165bo$1166bo$1167bo$1168bo$1169bo$1170bo$1171bo$
1172bo$1173bo$1174bo$1175bo$1176bo$1177bo$1178bo$1179bo$1180bo$1181bo$
1182bo$1183bo$1184bo$1185bo$1186bo$1187bo$1188bo$1189bo$1190bo$1191bo$
1192bo$1193bo$1194bo$1195bo$1196bo$1197bo$1198bo$1199bo$1200bo$1201bo$
1202bo$1203bo$1204bo$1205bo$1206bo$1207bo$1208bo$1209bo$1210bo$1211bo$
1212bo$1213bo$1214bo$1215bo$1216bo$1217bo$1218bo$1219bo$1220bo$1221bo$
1222bo$1223bo$1224bo$1225bo$1226bo$1227bo$1228bo$1229bo$1230bo$1231bo$
1232bo$1233bo$1234bo$1235bo$1236bo$1237bo$1238bo$1239bo$1240bo$1241bo$
1242bo$1243bo$1244bo$1245bo$1246bo$1247bo$1248bo$1249bo$1250bo$1251bo$
1252bo$1253bo$1254bo$1255bo$1256bo$1257bo$1258bo$1259bo$1260bo$1261bo$
1262bo$1263bo$1264bo$1265bo$1266bo$1267bo$1268bo$1269bo$1270bo$1271bo$
1272bo$1273bo$1274bo$1275bo$1276bo$1277bo$1278bo$1279bo$1280bo$1281bo$
1282bo$1283bo$1284bo$1285bo$1286bo$1287bo$1288bo$1289bo$1290bo$1291bo$
1292bo$1293bo$1294bo$1295bo$1296bo$1297bo$1298bo$1299bo$1300bo$1301bo$
1302bo$1303bo$1304bo$1305bo$1306bo$1307bo$1308bo$1309bo$1310bo$1311bo$
1312bo$1313bo$1314bo$1315bo$1316bo$1317bo$1318bo$1319bo$1320bo$1321bo$
1322bo$1323bo$1324bo$1325bo$1326bo$1327bo$1328bo$1329bo$1330bo$1331bo$
1332bo$1333bo$1334bo$1335bo$1336bo$1337bo$1338bo$1339bo$1340bo$1341bo$
1342bo$1343bo$1344bo$1345bo$1346bo$1347bo$1348bo$1349bo$1350bo$1351bo$
1352bo$1353bo$1354bo$1355bo$1356bo$1357bo$1358bo$1359bo$1360bo$1361bo$
1362bo$1363bo$1364bo$1365bo$1366bo$1367bo$1368bo$1369bo$1370bo$1371bo$
1372bo$1373bo$1374bo$1375bo$1376bo$1377bo$1378bo$1379bo$1380bo$1381bo$
1382bo$1383bo$1384bo$1385bo$1386bo$1387bo$1388bo$1389bo$1390bo$1391bo$
1392bo$1393bo$1394bo$1395bo$1396bo$1397bo$1398bo$1399bo$1400bo$1401bo$
1402bo$1403bo$1404bo$1405bo$1406bo$1407bo$1408bo$1409bo$1410bo$1411bo$
1412bo$1413bo$1414bo$1415bo$1416bo$1417bo$1418bo$1419bo$1420bo$1421bo$
1422bo$1423bo$1424bo$1425bo$1426bo$1427bo$1428bo$1429bo$1430bo$1431bo$
1432bo$1433bo$1434bo$1435bo$1436bo$1437bo$1438bo$1439bo$1440bo$1441bo$
1442bo$1443bo$1444bo$1445bo$1446bo$1447bo$1448bo$1449bo$1450bo$1451bo$
1452bo$1453bo$1454bo$1455bo$1456bo$1457bo$1458bo$1459bo$1460bo$1461bo$
1462bo$1463bo$1464bo$1465bo$1466bo$1467bo$1468bo$1469bo$1470bo$1471bo$
1472bo$1473bo$1474bo$1475bo$1476bo$1477bo$1478bo$1479bo$1480bo$1481bo$
1482bo$1483bo$1484bo$1485bo$1486bo$1487bo$1488bo$1489bo$1490bo$1491bo$
1492bo$1493bo$1494bo$1495bo$1496bo$1497bo$1498bo$1499bo$1500bo$1501bo$
1502bo$1503bo$1504bo$1505bo$1506bo$1507bo$1508bo$1509bo$1510bo$1511bo$
1512bo$1513bo$1514bo$1515bo$1516bo$1517bo$1518bo$1519bo$1520bo$1521bo$
1522bo$1523bo$1524bo$1525bo$1526bo$1527bo$1528bo$1529bo$1530bo$1531bo$
1532bo$1533bo$1534bo$1535bo$1536bo$1537bo$1538bo$1539bo$1540bo$1541bo$
1542bo$1543bo$1544bo$1545bo$1546bo$1547bo$1548bo$1549bo$1550bo$1551bo$
1552bo$1553bo$1554bo$1555bo$1556bo$1557bo$1558bo$1559bo$1560bo$1561bo$
1562bo$1563bo$1564bo$1565bo$1566bo$1567bo$1568bo$1569bo$1570bo$1571bo$
1572bo$1573bo$1574bo$1575bo$1576bo$1577bo$1578bo$1579bo$1580bo$1581bo$
1582bo$1583bo$1584bo$1585bo$1586bo$1587bo$1588bo$1589bo$1590bo$1591bo$
1592bo$1593bo$1594bo$1595bo$1596bo$1597bo$1598bo$1599bo$1600bo$1601bo$
1602bo$1603bo$1604bo$1605bo$1606bo$1607bo$1608bo$1609bo$1610bo$1611bo$
1612bo$1613bo$1614bo$1615bo$1616bo$1617bo$1618bo$1619bo$1620bo$1621bo$
1622bo$1623bo$1624bo$1625bo$1626bo$1627bo$1628bo$1629bo$1630bo$1631bo$
1632bo$1633bo$1634bo$1635bo$1636bo$1637bo$1638bo$1639bo$1640bo$1641bo$
1642bo$1643bo$1644bo$1645bo$1646bo$1647bo$1648bo$1649bo$1650bo$1651bo$
1652bo$1653bo$1654bo$1655bo$1656bo$1657bo$1658bo$1659bo$1660bo$1661bo$
1662bo$1663bo$1664bo$1665bo$1666bo$1667bo$1668bo$1669bo$1670bo$1671bo$
1672bo$1673bo$1674bo$1675bo$1676bo$1677bo$1678bo$1679bo$1680bo$1681bo$
1682bo$1683bo$1684bo$1685bo$1686bo$1687bo$1688bo$1689bo$1690bo$1691bo$
1692bo$1693bo$1694bo$1695bo$1696bo$1697bo$1698bo$1699bo$1700bo$1701bo$
1702bo$1703bo$1704bo$1705bo$1706bo$1707bo$1708bo$1709bo$1710bo$1711bo$
1712bo$1713bo$1714bo$1715bo$1716bo$1717bo$1718bo$1719bo$1720bo$1721bo$
1722bo$1723bo$1724bo$1725bo$1726bo$1727bo$1728bo$1729bo$1730bo$1731bo$
1732bo$1733bo$1734bo$1735bo$1736bo$1737bo$1738bo$1739bo$1740bo$1741bo$
1742bo$1743bo$1744bo$1745bo$1746bo$1747bo$1748bo$1749bo$1750bo$1751bo$
1752bo$1753bo$1754bo$1755bo$1756bo$1757bo$1758bo$1759bo$1760bo$1761bo$
1762bo$1763bo$1764bo$1765bo$1766bo$1767bo$1768bo$1769bo$1770bo$1771bo$
1772bo$1773bo$1774bo$1775bo$1776bo$1777bo$1778bo$1779bo$1780bo$1781bo$
1782bo$1783bo$1784bo$1785bo$1786bo$1787bo$1788bo$1789bo$1790bo$1791bo$
1792bo$1793bo$1794bo$1795bo$1796bo$1797bo$1798bo$1799bo$1800bo$1801bo$
1802bo$1803bo$1804bo$1805bo$1806bo$1807bo$1808bo$1809bo$1810bo$1811bo$
1812bo$1813bo$1814bo$1815bo$1816bo$1817bo$1818bo$1819bo$1820bo$1821bo$
1822bo$1823bo$1824bo$1825bo$1826bo$1827bo$1828bo$1829bo$1830bo$1831bo$
1832bo$1833bo$1834bo$1835bo$1836bo$1837bo$1838bo$1839bo$1840bo$1841bo$
1842bo$1843bo$1844bo$1845bo$1846bo$1847bo$1848bo$1849bo$1850bo$1851bo$
1852bo$1853bo$1854bo$1855bo$1856bo$1857bo$1858bo$1859bo$1860bo$1861bo$
1862bo$1863bo$1864bo$1865bo$1866bo$1867bo$1868bo$1869bo$1870bo$1871bo$
1872bo$1873bo$1874bo$1875bo$1876bo$1877bo$1878bo$1879bo$1880bo$1881bo$
1882bo$1883bo$1884bo$1885bo$1886bo$1887bo$1888bo$1889bo$1890bo$1891bo$
1892bo$1893bo$1894bo$1895bo$1896bo$1897bo$1898bo$1899bo$1900bo$1901bo$
1902bo$1903bo$1904bo$1905bo$1906bo$1907bo$1908bo$1909bo$1910bo$1911bo$
1912bo$1913bo$1914bo$1915bo$1916bo$1917bo$1918bo$1919bo$1920bo$1921bo$
1922bo$1923bo$1924bo$1925bo$1926bo$1927bo$1928bo$1929bo$1930bo$1931bo$
1932bo$1933bo$1934bo$1935bo$1936bo$1937bo$1938bo$1939bo$1940bo$1941bo$
1942bo$1943bo$1944bo$1945bo$1946bo$1947bo$1948bo$1949bo$1950bo$1951bo$
1952bo$1953bo$1954bo$1955bo$1956bo$1957bo$1958bo$1959bo$1960bo$1961bo$
1962bo$1963bo$1964bo$1965bo$1966bo$1967bo$1968bo$1969bo$1970bo$1971bo$
1972bo$1973bo$1974bo$1975bo$1976bo$1977bo$1978bo$1979bo$1980bo$1981bo$
1982bo$1983bo$1984bo$1985bo$1986bo$1987bo$1988bo$1989bo$1990bo$1991bo$
1992bo$1993bo$1994bo$1995bo$1996bo$1997bo$1998bo$1999bo$2000bo$2001bo$
2002bo$2003bo$2004bo$2005bo$2006bo$2007bo$2008bo$2009bo$2010bo$2011bo$
2012bo$2013bo$2014bo$2015bo$2016bo$2017bo$2018bo$2019bo$2020bo$2021bo$
2022bo$2023bo$2024bo$2025bo$2026bo$2027bo$2028bo$2029bo$2030bo$2031bo$
2032bo$2033bo$2034bo$2035bo$2036bo$2037bo$2038bo$2039bo$2040bo$2041bo$
2042bo$2043bo$2044bo$2045bo$2046bo$2047bo$2048bo$2049bo$2050bo$2051bo$
2052bo$2053bo$2054bo$2055bo$2056bo$2057bo$2058bo$2059bo$2060bo$2061bo$
2062bo$2063bo$2064bo$2065bo$2066bo$2067bo$2068bo$2069bo$2070bo$2071bo$
2072bo$2073bo$2074bo$2075bo$2076bo$2077bo$2078bo$2079bo$2080bo$2081bo$
2082bo$2083bo$2084bo$2085bo$2086bo$2087bo$2088bo$2089bo$2090bo$2091bo$
2092bo$2093bo$2094bo$2095bo$2096bo$2097bo$2098bo$2099bo$2100bo$2101bo$
2102bo$2103bo$2104bo$2105bo$2106bo$2107bo$2108bo$2109bo$2110bo$2111bo$
2112bo$2113bo$2114bo$2115bo$2116bo$2117bo$2118bo$2119bo$2120bo$2121bo$
2122bo$2123bo$2124bo$2125bo$2126bo$2127bo$2128bo$2129bo$2130bo$2131bo$
2132bo$2133bo$2134bo$2135bo$2136bo$2137bo$2138bo$2139bo$2140bo$2141bo$
2142bo$2143bo$2144bo$2145bo$2146bo$2147bo$2148bo$2149bo$2150bo$2151bo$
2152bo$2153bo$2154bo$2155bo$2156bo$2157bo$2158bo$2159bo$2160bo$2161bo$
2162bo$2163bo$2164bo$2165bo$2166bo$2167bo$2168bo$2169bo$2170bo$2171bo$
2172bo$2173bo$2174bo$2175bo$2176bo$2177bo$2178bo$2179bo$2180bo$2181bo$
2182bo$2183bo$2184bo$2185bo$2186bo$2187bo$2188bo$2189bo$2190bo$2191bo$
2192bo$2193bo$2194bo$2195bo$2196bo$2197bo$2198bo$2199bo$2200bo$2201bo$
2202bo$2203bo$2204bo$2205bo$2206bo$2207bo$2208bo$2209bo$2210bo$2211bo$
2212bo$2213bo$2214bo$2215bo$2216bo$2217bo$2218bo$2219bo$2220bo$2221bo$
2222bo$2223bo$2224bo$2225bo$2226bo$2227bo$2228bo$2229bo$2230bo$2231bo$
2232bo$2233bo$2234bo$2235bo$2236bo$2237bo$2238bo$2239bo$2240bo$2241bo$
2242bo$2243bo$2244bo$2245bo$2246bo$2247bo$2248bo$2249bo$2250bo$2251bo$
2252bo$2253bo$2254bo$2255bo$2256bo$2257bo$2258bo$2259bo$2260bo$2261bo$
2262bo$2263bo$2264bo$2265bo$2266bo$2267bo$2268bo$2269bo$2270bo$2271bo$
2272bo$2273bo$2274bo$2275bo$2276bo$2277bo$2278bo$2279bo$2280bo$2281bo$
2282bo$2283bo$2284bo$2285bo$2286bo$2287bo$2288bo$2289bo$2290bo$2291bo$
2292bo$2293bo$2294bo$2295bo$2296bo$2297bo$2298bo$2299bo$2300bo$2301bo$
2302bo$2303bo$2304bo$2305bo$2306bo$2307bo$2308bo$2309bo$2310bo$2311bo$
2312bo$2313bo$2314bo$2315bo$2316bo$2317bo$2318bo$2319bo$2320bo$2321bo$
2322bo$2323bo$2324bo$2325bo$2326bo$2327bo$2328bo$2329bo$2330bo$2331bo
3b2o$2332bo2bo$2333bobo$2334bo$2331b3o$2331bo!
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Re: Thread For Your Accidental Discoveries

Post by Kiran » June 25th, 2015, 8:36 pm

A fuse producing gliders in the direction of the fuse:
The gliders pile up, producing a crystal of blinkers.

Also, an agar:

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x = 29, y = 29, rule = B3/S23:T29,29
b2o3bobo7bobo3b2ob4o$bo3b2ob4ob2o3bobo7bo$bobo7bobo3b2ob4ob2o$2ob4ob2o
3bobo7bobo$6bobo3b2ob4ob2o3bobo$2ob2o3bobo7bobo3b2ob2o$bobo3b2ob4ob2o
3bobo$3bobo7bobo3b2ob4ob2o$2b2ob4ob2o3bobo7bobo$o7bobo3b2ob4ob2o3bo$4o
b2o3bobo7bobo3b2o$3bobo3b2ob4ob2o3bobo$2o3bobo7bobo3b2ob4o$o3b2ob4ob2o
3bobo7bo$obo7bobo3b2ob4ob2o$ob4ob2o3bobo7bobo3bo$5bobo3b2ob4ob2o3bobo$
ob2o3bobo7bobo3b2ob3o$obo3b2ob4ob2o3bobo$2bobo7bobo3b2ob4ob2o$b2ob4ob
2o3bobo7bobo$7bobo3b2ob4ob2o3bobo$3ob2o3bobo7bobo3b2obo$2bobo3b2ob4ob
2o3bobo$o3bobo7bobo3b2ob4obo$3b2ob4ob2o3bobo7bobo$bo7bobo3b2ob4ob2o3bo
$b4ob2o3bobo7bobo3b2o$4bobo3b2ob4ob2o3bobo!
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Re: Thread For Your Accidental Discoveries

Post by gmc_nxtman » June 26th, 2015, 11:36 am

This still life is what apgsearch calls "11-boat wrap tail". I prefer to just call it "Boat with long curled tail"

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x = 8, y = 11, rule = B3/S23
4bo$3b2o$2bo2bobo$3bo2bo$4b3o2$o$o$4bo$2o2bo$o3bo!
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Re: Thread For Your Accidental Discoveries

Post by Kiran » June 26th, 2015, 11:45 am

Also, a little methuselah with a spark coil in its output:
Actually a dead spark coil.

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x = 23, y = 23, rule = B3/S23
8bo5bo$3b3ob2o5b2ob3o11$5bo11bo$5b2o9b2o3$8bo5bo$4o2bobo5bobo2b4o$8bo
5bo3$5b2o9b2o$5bo11bo!
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Re: Thread For Your Accidental Discoveries

Post by mniemiec » June 26th, 2015, 11:50 am

gmc_nxtman wrote:This still life is what apgsearch calls "11-boat wrap tail". I prefer to just call it "Boat with long curled tail"
The blinker and beehive can be made from 5 gliders (blinker + 1/4 honeyfarm). I am not sure about the other junk. Since this still-life can already be made from just 5 gliders anyway, this reaction conveys no advantages to make it worth trying to synthesize. (By the way, in your RLE fragments, you should probably use rule = B3/S23, rather than rule = Life, for compatibility with more Life programs).
gmc_nxtman wrote:Also, a little pattern with a spark coil in its output:
This is a dead spark coil (a still-life with odd symmetry) rather than a spark coil (an oscillator with even symmetry). It occurs quite frequently in symmetrical soups, along with other similar symmetrical still-lifes, like pairs of docks, buns/R-bees, wings/R-loaves, or doves/R-mangos). Since all of these can be made very cheaply by themselves, it rarely makes sense to try to salvage them from soups.

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Re: Thread For Your Accidental Discoveries

Post by gmc_nxtman » June 26th, 2015, 11:53 am

mniemec wrote:you should probably use rule = B3/S23, rather than rule = Life,
Fixed.

Unusual synthesis component:

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x = 9, y = 9, rule = B3/S23
2b2o3b2o$2bo2bob2o$3b3o$6b2o$b3o2bo$o3bobobo$bo2bo2b2o$2bobo$3bo!
Tiny 2c5 spaceship reaction:

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x = 4, y = 7, rule = Life
3bo2$b2o$3o$b2o2$3bo!
Glider and switch engine eventually emerge unharmed:

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x = 699, y = 706, rule = Life
696bo$696bobo$696b2o699$15bobo$18bo$14bo2bo$o12b3o$2o!
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Re: Thread For Your Accidental Discoveries

Post by Extrementhusiast » June 27th, 2015, 3:05 pm

Changing the bushing for the technician a bit (and adjusting the casing as necessary) results in a different P4 oscillator:

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x = 32, y = 12, rule = B3/S23
5bo20bo$4bobo18bobo$4b2o16bo2b2o$2b2o18b3o$bo3b3o18b3o$o2b2o3bobo13b2o
3bo$b2o2b3ob2o10bobo2b3o2bo$3b2o2bo13b2ob2o2bob2o$3bo3bo16bo3bo$4b3o
17bobobo$6bobo16bobo$7b2o17bo!
Not sure if this is new, but it most likely isn't.
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Re: Thread For Your Accidental Discoveries

Post by mniemiec » June 27th, 2015, 6:52 pm

Extrementhusiast wrote:Changing the bushing for the technician a bit (and adjusting the casing as necessary) results in a different P4 oscillator:
This is exactly the same kind of change (flat billiard table end to tub on the end) that changes the cauldron (P8) into 1-2-3-4 (P4).

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Re: Thread For Your Accidental Discoveries

Post by gmc_nxtman » June 28th, 2015, 11:08 am

Some results which I have not computed yet. Not posting them due to syntheses, just thought they were intresting.

Mold:

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x = 11, y = 14, rule = B3/S23
6bo$6b3o$6bobo$8bo6$b2o$o2bo5b2o$b2o6b2o2$4b3o!
I've also uploaded some results of results of various quality, naturality, and symmetry.

Unnamed p5 related to the heart:

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x = 33, y = 33, rule = B3/S23
5b3o17b3o$8bo15bo$5bo2bo15bo2bo$9bo13bo$6bo3b2o9b2o3bo$obo3bo5bo7bo5bo
3bobo$o3b2o2b4o9b4o2b2o3bo$o7b4o9b4o7bo$b2o3b2ob3o2b2ob2o2b3ob2o3b2o$
3bo2b3o6bobo6b3o2bo$4bob3o6bobo6b3obo$4bob3o4bobobobo4b3obo$5bo7b2o3b
2o7bo$11b2o7b2o$8bo3bo7bo3bo$8b4o4bo4b4o$15bobo$8b4o4bo4b4o$8bo3bo7bo
3bo$11b2o7b2o$5bo7b2o3b2o7bo$4bob3o4bobobobo4b3obo$4bob3o6bobo6b3obo$
3bo2b3o6bobo6b3o2bo$b2o3b2ob3o2b2ob2o2b3ob2o3b2o$o7b4o9b4o7bo$o3b2o2b
4o9b4o2b2o3bo$obo3bo5bo7bo5bo3bobo$6bo3b2o9b2o3bo$9bo13bo$5bo2bo15bo2b
o$8bo15bo$5b3o17b3o!
And a trans-candlefrobra:

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x = 19, y = 29, rule = B3/S23
11b3o$11bo$11b3o2$12bo$12b3o$14b3o$14b2o$8b3o$8bobo$8bobo2$8bo$7bob2o$
6bo7b2o$6bob2o4bob2o$8b2obo6bo$4bo3b2obo2bo$obobo5bo2bo4bo$o2b2o9b4o$o
bo12bo$5b2ob2o$7bo$12b2o$12b2o2$7b2o$6bo2bo$7b2o!
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Re: Thread For Your Accidental Discoveries

Post by A for awesome » June 29th, 2015, 9:28 am

3 intriguing boat catalyses:

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x = 28, y = 8, rule = LifeHistory
25.C$13.C9.C2.C$13.C9.C3.C$2.C10.2C8.2C$3.C10.3C7.3C$.C2.C6.C9.C$C.C
7.C.C7.C.C$2C8.2C8.2C!
P.S. This is entirely unrelated, but here is a variant of the long hook with tail catalyst that should be easier to construct in one orientation:

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x = 42, y = 6, rule = B3/S23
2o10b2o12b2o8b2o$o5bo5bo13bo9b2o2b2o$b3obobo5b3o11b3ob2o6b2o$3bobobo7b
o2b2o9bobobo7bo$6bo10b2o13bo$19bo!
x₁=ηx
V ⃰_η=c²√(Λη)
K=(Λu²)/2
Pₐ=1−1/(∫^∞_t₀(p(t)ˡ⁽ᵗ⁾)dt)

$$x_1=\eta x$$
$$V^*_\eta=c^2\sqrt{\Lambda\eta}$$
$$K=\frac{\Lambda u^2}2$$
$$P_a=1-\frac1{\int^\infty_{t_0}p(t)^{l(t)}dt}$$

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Re: Thread For Your Accidental Discoveries

Post by gmc_nxtman » June 29th, 2015, 11:51 am

Some oscillators.

Fore and back from C2_1:

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x = 23, y = 41, rule = B3/S23
6b2o$6b2o$obo$b2o11b3obo$bo11bo3bobo$6b3o4bo2bob2o$13bo5bo$17b2o$14b2o
2bo$14b3o$15bobo$16b2o2b3o5$10b3o2$14b3o$2b2o10bo5bo$bobo2b3o5b3o2bobo
$2bo5bo10b2o$6b3o2$10b3o5$3o2b2o$5bobo$6b3o$4bo2b2o$4b2o$3bo5bo$3b2obo
2bo4b3o$3bobo3bo11bo$4bob3o11b2o$20bobo$15b2o$15b2o!
Unnamed p2 resembling the fox from C2_1:

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x = 27, y = 11, rule = B3/S23
18bo4b2o$17b3o3b2o$16b2ob2o$b2o12b2o3bo$o2bo2b2o8b2o3bo$b2o6bo7bo6b2o$
5bo3b2o8b2o2bo2bo$6bo3b2o12b2o$6b2ob2o$2b2o3b3o$2b2o4bo!
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Re: Thread For Your Accidental Discoveries

Post by BlinkerSpawn » July 2nd, 2015, 11:26 am

Synth component of unknown worth:

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x = 29, y = 10, rule = B3/S23
27b2o$28bo$26bo$26b2o$4bo9b2o8b2o$3bobo7bobo7bobo$4bo5bo3bo5bo3bo$2o7b
obo7bobo$2o3bo4b2o3bo3bobo3bo$4b2o8b2o4bo3b2o!
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Re: Thread For Your Accidental Discoveries

Post by gmc_nxtman » July 2nd, 2015, 8:39 pm

28.003 from (I think 9) gliders:

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x = 17, y = 12, rule = B3/S23
9bo4b3o$3o4b3o$8bo8$6b2o$6b2o!
21-bitter from (10?) gliders:

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x = 13, y = 22, rule = B3/S23
6b2o$5bob2o$4b4o$7b3o$8bobo$2o3bobo3bo$2o3bo4bobo$10bobo$11b2o5$8b3o$
6b2obo$6b3o$2bobo$bo2bo$2bo$4bob2o$4b3o$5bo!
20-bitter from (9?) gliders, note how tick23 is similar to the junk hassled in unix, which is by itself a predecessor to a long barge:

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x = 9, y = 17, rule = B3/S23
b2o3b2o$o2bo2b2o$bobo$2bo3$2o$2o6$5b3o$4bo3bo$4b2ob2o$4bo!
19-bitter from (probably 5) gliders, constructible from two slightly-offset-in-space-and-time B heptominoes:

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x = 6, y = 11, rule = B3/S23
2bo$b3o$o2b2o$o3bo$b2obo$3b2o2$5bo$4b2o$3b2o$4b2o!
22-er, part of a family of still lifes that I call "drillheads" after the following induction coils:

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x = 32, y = 8, rule = B3/S23
2ob4o2bo2b2ob3o2b3o2b3obobo$3bo2b5obo2bo3b2o2b2o4b2o$2o6b2o2bo2b4obo2b
2o3b3o$bo6bobo2bo2b3ob7obo2bo$2bo2bob4o2bo3b3obo9bo$3o3b3o2bobob4obo6b
obobo$ob2obo2b2obo2b7o2bo2b2ob2o$o5bo3bobo3bob3ob3o6bo!
Coils:

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x = 17, y = 9, rule = B3/S23
bob2o5b2o3bo$b2obo5bo2b3o$11b2o$b3o9b3o$o3bo6b2o3bo$2ob2o7bob2o$bobo8b
obo$bobo7b2obobo$2ob2o10b2o!
B and Bullet stick a G onto a hive, making it into an R-bee:

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x = 5, y = 13, rule = B3/S23
b2o$3o$b2o2$o$2o$b2o$2o3$2b2o$bo2bo$2b2o!
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Re: Thread For Your Accidental Discoveries

Post by Bullet51 » July 2nd, 2015, 10:23 pm

gmc_nxtman wrote:
Tiny 2c5 spaceship reaction:

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x = 4, y = 7, rule = Life
3bo2$b2o$3o$b2o2$3bo!
You mean like this?

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x = 17, y = 19, rule = B3/S23
bo$bo3b2obob2o$o4bobo2bo$b2ob3o3bo$b2obo5bo$6bobobo$3b2o6bobo$6bobo$7b
4o3b2o$7bo6b3o$7b4o3b2o$6bobo$3b2o6bobo$6bobobo$b2obo5bo$b2ob3o3bo$o4b
obo2bo$bo3b2obob2o$bo!
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Re: Thread For Your Accidental Discoveries

Post by gmc_nxtman » July 2nd, 2015, 10:32 pm

Bullet51 wrote:
gmc_nxtman wrote:
Tiny 2c5 spaceship reaction:

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x = 4, y = 7, rule = Life
3bo2$b2o$3o$b2o2$3bo!
You mean like this?

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x = 17, y = 19, rule = B3/S23
bo$bo3b2obob2o$o4bobo2bo$b2ob3o3bo$b2obo5bo$6bobobo$3b2o6bobo$6bobo$7b
4o3b2o$7bo6b3o$7b4o3b2o$6bobo$3b2o6bobo$6bobobo$b2obo5bo$b2ob3o3bo$o4b
obo2bo$bo3b2obob2o$bo!
Very nice! Did you find that with gfind/afind, or by hand? If by search, what was your input file? All my input files seem to be broken/work incredibly slowly...

I found several reactions like this, that advance a few ticks and stop because one or a few cells are missing/born.

2c7:

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x = 4, y = 8, rule = B3/S23
2bo$b3o$b3o3$2o$bo$b2o!
c/6:

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x = 9, y = 4, rule = B3/S23
5b3o$3obo$4bo3bo$4bo!
c/3:

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x = 5, y = 7, rule = B3/S23
2bo$bobo$o3bo$b3o3$b3o!
c/2 incomplete wickstretcher (eventually turns into an OWWS, or over weight wick stretcher):

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x = 10, y = 6, rule = B3/S23
2b2obo2bo$2bo6bo$3b2o4bo$3o2b5o$o2bo$b2o!

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Re: Thread For Your Accidental Discoveries

Post by mniemiec » July 3rd, 2015, 12:04 am

blinker_spawn wrote:Synth component of unknown worth:
These ways of adding docks or long hooks have long been known. Unfortunately, getting that pre-block (or another equivalent predecessor) without interacting with the inducting still-life would be fairly expensive, which is why other methods are used (e.g. instead of bringing a block near an existing boat, bring a boat, or other similar still-life with a point, near an existing block).
gmc_nxtman wrote:28.003 from (I think 9) gliders:
Actually, only 8, as the bottom block can be replaced by a glider:

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x = 41, y = 31, rule = B3/S23
18bobo$18boo$19bo$$8bobo$9boo22boo3boo$9bo22bobbobobbo$32booboboboo$bb
o18b3o11bobobo$obo29boobobobo$boo29boobobbo$36boo$3b3o$5bo$4bo$$19bo$
18boo$18bobo10$bboo$3boo$bbo!
gmc_nxtman wrote:21-bitter from (10?) gliders:
I don't see any easy way to make either of those two pieces of junk. The related still-life 21.58260 (with bookend moved over 2 spaces) can be made from 9 gliders, but that can't quite be trivially adapted to this object, as the add-bookend mechanism interferes when moved, and none of the alternates I have quite work either.
gmc_nxtman wrote:20-bitter from (9?) gliders, note how tick23 is similar to the junk hassled in unix, which is by itself a predecessor to a long barge:
Since it does, in fact, turn into a long barge in one tick, it is equivalent to one. A long barge can be added with 3 gliders, which is cheaper than the house-with-bit (probably 3) and block (2 more). See comments above about adding docks.
gmc_nxtman wrote:19-bitter from (probably 5) gliders, constructible from two slightly-offset-in-space-and-time B heptominoes:
Indeed it can. Thank you. 21.16812 from 5 gliders:

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x = 67, y = 21, rule = B3/S23
47bo$47bobo$47boo$25bo19bo$24bobo17bobo$24boo18boo3$bbo$obo22bo19bo19b
o$boo21bobo17bobo17bobo$23bobbo16bobbo16bobbo$23b3o17b3o17b3o$$10bobo
8b5o15b5o15b5o$11boo7bo4bo14bo4bo14bo4bo$boo8bo8bobo17bobo17bobo$bboo
17boo18boo18boo$bo7boo$8boo$10bo!
gmc_nxtman wrote:Pretty weird 14-bitter:
This is 14.54, and can be made from 9 gliders, via the same predecessor.
gmc_nxtman wrote:Strange 18-bitter, from a "long^2 hive in trans-blocks":
The cis version (18.2588) can be made from 7 gliders. This (18.2587) can be made exactly the same way, but creating the block-on-cap facing the other direction.
gmc_nxtman wrote:Thunderbird + Two preblocks = Hive on dock:
Thunderbird is an artificial methuselah created when two blinkers approach from opposite sides. Good luck getting two blocks (let alone in those phases) in behind an approaching blinker! This is 18.8141, and can already be made from 7 gliders using a variant of the add-dock mechanism mentioned above (which can also give the bookend-siamese-bookend on tub, boat, or any other still-life with a point, or on an inductor with a line-of-3, like a bun, bookend, house, etc.).
gmc_nxtman wrote:R-bee on shillelagh:
Since this can already be made from 4 gliders, there's no use even attempting a better synthesis from soup results.
gmc_nxtman wrote:Scorpion with tub:
15.123 currently takes 9 gliders. This soup makes the object form almost spontaneously out of a huge lump of junk, which would almost certainly cost more than that.
gmc_nxtman wrote:Boat tie-table on block:
15.88 currently takes 9 gliders. This soup uses a honeyfarm predecessor, block, and short-table spark, all of which approach each other simultaneously. The block and a cousin of the spark are easy, and can be made from 2 gliders each. The honeyfarm predecessor is more problematic, since I don't know any way to make this cheaply; most of the methods I know made a related (but useless) predecessor in which the active point is not extended. If the honeyfarm predecessor has the point already extended, the spark will be considerably more expensive, as it would have to be shoved forwards all at once.
gmc_nxtman wrote:Bookend siamese shillelagh:
13.213 can already be made from 5 gliders. That number is unlikely to be improved upon for any 5-glider object, unless one happens to find a totally random collision of 4 gliders that does so (as Boris Shemyakin's searches have often done), or one can find a soup where two two-glider results collide, or one where a single glider hits something buildable from 3 gliders.
gmc_nxtman wrote:Boat-hat:
13.170 can already be made from 7 gliders. Since it drops out of a huge lump of junk, it is unlikely for this soup to produce a better synthesis.
gmc_nxtman wrote:Cis-queen bee shuttle:
This takes 6 gliders, and is unlikely to be improved.
gmc_nxtman wrote:Figure eight:
This takes 4 gliders.
gmc_nxtman wrote:Great on-off, which for some reason is more common than eater plug:
This can already be made from 5 gliders, via teardrop-into-traffic-light (just like this soup), plus one additional cleanup glider.
gmc_nxtman wrote:22-er, part of a family of still lifes that I call "drillheads" after the following induction coils:
The mechanism for hitting a beehive/loaf/mango with a bookend-like object to turn the still-life into an R-bee/R-loaf/R-mango, and the other object into an inductor, is fairly well known. I'm not sure quite how to make the block-behind bookend, however.
gmc_nxtman wrote:Coils:
The first one is used in the synthesis for Jack (and related oscillators).

gmc_nxtman wrote:One of the strangest 18-ers I've seen in a while:
17.3266 (broken heart) is identical, except it has a beehive instead of a loaf. That takes 20 gliders to make. This (18.7327) can be made from 11 more, by turnin the beehive into a loaf. This soup breaks it down to this tantalyzingly simple predecessor. Does anyone have an idea how to synthesize it?

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x = 9, y = 5, rule = B3/S23
5bo$5b4o$b2o2bob2o$3o4b2o$6bo!
gmc_nxtman wrote:B and Bullet stick a G onto a hive, making it into an R-bee:
I wasn't aware of this conversion. It can be done with 4 gliders. It's another one of the same form as the bookend-into-beehive interactions I mentioned earlier.

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x = 30, y = 19, rule = B3/S23
11bobo$11boo$3bo8bo$4bo$bb3o5$obo$oo$bo22booboo$25bobobo$bboo21bo3bo$
3boo21b3o$bbo$7boo17b3o$6bobbo16bobbo$7boo18boo!
gmc_nxtman wrote:c/2 incomplete wickstretcher (eventually turns into an OWWS, or over weight wick stretcher):
This has long been known. It is what happens when you combine a LWSS at one end with a LWSS emulator at the other.

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Re: Thread For Your Accidental Discoveries

Post by Sokwe » July 3rd, 2015, 5:00 am

gmc_nxtman wrote:Tiny 2c5 spaceship reaction
This was discovered by Robert Wainwright in 1991 (see here).
gmc_nxtman wrote:I found several reactions like this, that advance a few ticks and stop because one or a few cells are missing/born....
c/6:
This component is already known and has been used in several c/6 spaceships:

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x = 185, y = 62, rule = B3/S23
173bo6bo$171b2ob2o2b2ob2o3$b3o13b3o17b3o10b3o24b3o14b3o30b3o27b3o$4bob
3o3b3obo15b3obo7b2o7bob3o14b3obo20bob3o20b3obo25b3obo14b2ob2o2b2ob2o$o
3bo11bo3bo15bo3bo2bo2bo2bo3bo22bo3bo12bo3bo28bo3bo25bo3bo10b2o2bo2bo2b
2o$4bo11bo19bo5bo4bo5bo22bo4bo10bo4bo28bo3bo25bo4bo10b2o2b2o2b2o$42b2o
2b2o34bo8bo70bo9bo8bo$bo2bo11bo2bo19bo3bo2bo3bo27bo7b2o7bo30bo32bo2bo
7b2o10b2o$2b3o11b3o20bobo6bobo28b2ob2ob4ob2ob2o32b2o35bo$7b3ob3o26b10o
33bobo2bobo37bo35b2o3bo14bo$5b2o7b2o26bo4bo77b3o36bo4bo2bo8bo2bo$5b2ob
2ob2ob2o24bo8bo74bobobo40bo14bo$39bo10bo72b3obo42bobo8bobo$8b2ob2o27bo
8bo33bo6bo32bobo46bo8bo$5bo3bobo3bo66bobob2obobo32b2o47bo6bo$7bobobobo
68b2o2b2o2b2o32bobo45b3o4b3o$7bobobobo72b2o85b2o4b2o$2b2o3bobobobo3b2o
151b2o10b2o$2b2o3bobobobo3b2o65b2o2b2o32bo6bo40b3o3b2o3b3o$bo4b2obobob
2o4bo64b2o2b2o31bobob2obobo40b2o3b2o3b2o$6bo2bobo2bo70b4o32b2o2b2o2b2o
41bo3b2o3bo$3b5obobob5o67bo2bo36b2o44b3o6b3o$2b2obo2bo3bo2bob2o65bo4bo
$3b2o2b2o3b2o2b2o66bo4bo33b2o2b2o$2bo5b2ob2o5bo65bob2obo33b2o2b2o42b3o
6b3o$7bobobobo71bo2bo35b4o42b5o4b5o$9bobo73bo2bo35bo2bo41bo5bo2bo5bo$
6bo7bo108bo4bo41bo3bo4bo3bo$4bobo7bobo62bo14bo28bo4bo$4bobo7bobo62b2o
4bo2bo4b2o28bob2obo$5bo9bo63bo5b4o5bo29bo2bo$5bo9bo64b2o4b2o4b2o30bo2b
o$4b4o5b4o64bo10bo$3bo2b2o5b2o2bo61bobo10bobo23bo14bo$4b2o2bo3bo2b2o
63b5o4b5o24b2o4bo2bo4b2o$5bobo5bobo66bo2b4o2bo26bo5b4o5bo$5bo2bo3bo2bo
65bo4b2o4bo26b2o4b2o4b2o$6bobo3bobo70bo2bo31bo10bo$2b2o2b2obobob2o2b2o
67b2o30bobo10bobo$bo3b3obobob3o3bo63b2ob2ob2o28b5o4b5o$2bo3b3o3b3o3bo
102bo2b4o2bo$4b2o9b2o65bo8bo28bo4b2o4bo$81b3o6b3o31bo2bo$4b6ob6o64bo2b
o4bo2bo32b2o$7bobobobo66b2o10b2o28b2ob2ob2o$4b2obobobobob2o$8b2ob2o
108bo8bo$5bo9bo104b3o6b3o$3bobo9bobo102bo2bo4bo2bo$6bo7bo104b2o10b2o$
2bo15bo$2bob2o9b2obo2$2b3o11b3o$3bob2obo3bob2obo$5bo2bo3bo2bo$5bo2bo3b
o2bo2$7bobobobo$8bo3bo!
I think it could be useful to start WinLifeSearch with this partial pattern to get new spaceships. Unfortunately, period-6 is difficult to search at.
-Matthias Merzenich

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Re: Thread For Your Accidental Discoveries

Post by gmc_nxtman » July 3rd, 2015, 11:06 am

New syntheses that aren't in the database.

12-boat with hook on block:

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x = 32, y = 8, rule = B3/S23
4b2o3b4o2b3ob3o3b2ob2o$2b2o3bobo2b2obobob2o2b4ob2obo$3obo5b2o2bobobo2b
obo3bo2bo$3bo2bob4o2b2obob4o2b2obob2o$4bo3b2o2b4obo8b6o$5ob6obobobo3bo
bo3b5o$2bo2b2ob2o2bo2bo2bob2o3b2ob4o$ob2ob3o2b2obo3bo2b7ob4o!
Cis-mirrored table siamese long hook:

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x = 32, y = 8, rule = B3/S23
3b2ob4o3b2ob4o3b2o2b3obo$3bob2o3bob2o4b2ob5o3bobo$b2obo2bo2b3o2bob6o3b
2o2b2o$3b3obo2b5o2b4obo2b3ob2o$3bobo2b4o3bo4bob3o4b3o$3ob3ob5ob2ob2o3b
5o3bo$b2ob2obo3b2o4b2obo3bo2b2obo$2bo7bo3bo2b2o3bob4o2b2o!
Pond tie para-hook on block:

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x = 32, y = 8, rule = B3/S23
b2o3bobobobobo2b2o5bob6o$3ob4obobob8ob2obobo$obo4b3ob2ob2o3bo8bo2bo$bo
b2obob2o2b2obo3b2obo6b3o$bob3ob2o2bo2bo2b3o2bob2o2b3o$2bob3obo3b3ob3ob
o3bob2o2b2o$ob3ob2o2bobo2bobo2bobo2bo4bo$2b3o2b2obob3obobob3o2b2o2bobo
!
Teardrop on short^2 worm with hook:

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x = 32, y = 8, rule = B3/S23
obob2ob10o7b2ob3o$2obo2bob5ob5o2b2obo2bo$b5ob3ob2obo4bob2obob2o2bo$11b
o3bobob2o2b5ob2o$bo2b3obo2bob4obo4bo2bob4o$bob3ob3o4bo2bo2b5o2b3o$2ob
2ob2o2b2o3bo5b5ob2o$bo2bobob2obobo7b5o5bo!
I also found that a TWIT can eat 2 gliders at once:

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x = 27, y = 22, rule = B3/S23
24bo$24bobo$24b2o$2bo$obo$b2o3$16bo$16bobo$16b2o2$11bo$9bobo$10b2o2$
16b2o$12bo3b2o$11bobo$10bobo$10bo$9b2o!
Also found this weird boat catalyst with two BG:

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x = 9, y = 9, rule = B3/S23
2o$obo4b2o$2b2o2bobo$7bo2$7bo$2b2o2bobo$obo4b2o$2o!
Last edited by gmc_nxtman on July 4th, 2015, 9:59 pm, edited 2 times in total.

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Re: Thread For Your Accidental Discoveries

Post by BobShemyakin » July 3rd, 2015, 2:07 pm

mniemiec wrote:
gmc_nxtman wrote:Pretty weird 14-bitter:
This is 14.54, and can be made from 9 gliders, via the same predecessor.
14.54 can be made from 5 gliders:

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x = 34, y = 17, rule = B3/S23
21bo$22bo7bo$20b3o6bo$29b3o4$20b2o9bo$21b2o8bobo$20bo10b2o2$3b2o$2bo2b
o24bo$3bobo24b2o$3obo24bobo$o2bo$b2o!
mniemiec wrote:
gmc_nxtman wrote:Strange 18-bitter, from a "long^2 hive in trans-blocks":
The cis version (18.2588) can be made from 7 gliders. This (18.2587) can be made exactly the same way, but creating the block-on-cap facing the other direction.
18.2587 from 5 gliders and 18.2588 from 7 gliders:

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x = 70, y = 60, rule = B3/S23
o$b2o$2o2$11bo$10bo$10b3o3$26b2o$26b2o2$24b4o$6bo16bo4bo$6bobo15b4o$3b
o2b2o$bobo20b2o$2b2o20b2o3$10bo$9b2o$9bobo20$2bobo$3b2o$3bo21b2o18b2o
18b2o$25b2o18b2o18b2o$o$b2o22b4o16b4o16b4o$2o6b2o15bo2bo16bo2bo15bo4bo
$8bobo54b4o$8bo$65b2o$6b2o36b3o18b2o$5bobo38bo2b2o$7bo37bo2b2o$50bo2$
47bo$47b2o$46bobo!
mniemiec wrote:
gmc_nxtman wrote:Thunderbird + Two preblocks = Hive on dock:
Thunderbird is an artificial methuselah created when two blinkers approach from opposite sides. Good luck getting two blocks (let alone in those phases) in behind an approaching blinker! This is 18.8141, and can already be made from 7 gliders using a variant of the add-dock mechanism mentioned above (which can also give the bookend-siamese-bookend on tub, boat, or any other still-life with a point, or on an inductor with a line-of-3, like a bun, bookend, house, etc.).
18.8141 can be made from 5 gliders:

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x = 45, y = 18, rule = B3/S23
43bo$42bo$42b3o3$32bo$22bobo8bo$23b2o6b3o$2o21bo$obo$2bo2b2o22b2o$b2ob
o2bo22b2o$2bo2b2o22bo$obo$2o$39b3o$39bo$40bo!
mniemiec wrote:
gmc_nxtman wrote:Scorpion with tub:
15.123 currently takes 9 gliders. This soup makes the object form almost spontaneously out of a huge lump of junk, which would almost certainly cost more than that.
15.123 currently takes 6 gliders:

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x = 37, y = 20, rule = B3/S23
21bo$19b2o$20b2o$33bo$32bobo$33bobo$35bo$15bobo17b2o$15b2o15b2obo$7bo
8bo15bo2bo$8bo24b2o$6b3o6b2o$15bobo$15bo3$7bo$bo5b2o$b2o3bobo$obo!
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Re: Thread For Your Accidental Discoveries

Post by mniemiec » July 3rd, 2015, 6:13 pm

gmc_nxtman wrote:Cis-mirrored table siamese long hook:
This can currently be made from 15 gliders. 9 to make the shorter version (22.77829) with bookends instead of long bookends/long hooks, and 3 gliders each to lengthen the bookends, giving 24.275790.
gmc_nxtman wrote:I also found that a TWIT can eat 2 gliders at once:
There are many reactions where a glider can hit the pointed edge of a still-life (e.g. tub, boat, loaf, etc.) where the results are the same, regardless of the direction from which the glider hits. This is also true of the two 2-glider collisions to make a B-heptomino.
BobShemyakin wrote:14.54 can be made from 5 gliders:
BobShemyakin wrote:18.2587 from 5 gliders...
BobShemyakin wrote:18.8141 can be made from 5 gliders:
BobShemyakin wrote:15.123 currently takes 6 gliders:
Thanks. I have been noting all the glider syntheses that have been posted on various threads, but have not yet had the time to integrate them into my database, so most of my counts are 6-12 months out of date - which is still correct for most objects, but not for all the recently-optimized ones.
BobShemyakin wrote:... and 18.2588 from 7 gliders:
This is the same synthesis I had for 18.2588.

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Re: Thread For Your Accidental Discoveries

Post by gmc_nxtman » July 6th, 2015, 2:39 pm

Queen-bee based glider shifter:

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x = 18, y = 13, rule = B3/S23
$2bo$3bo$b3o$13bo$13bobo$14bobo$14bo2bo$14bobo$13bobo$13bo!
Very strange reactions involving pis:

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x = 21, y = 17, rule = B3/S23
7b2o3b2o$7bobobobo$9bobo$8b2ob2o8$2o17b2o$2o17b2o2$9b3o$9bobo$9bobo!

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x = 25, y = 17, rule = B3/S23
9b2o3b2o$9bobobobo$11bobo$10b2ob2o8$2o21b2o$2o21b2o2$11b3o$11bobo$11bo
bo!

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Re: Thread For Your Accidental Discoveries

Post by Extrementhusiast » July 7th, 2015, 4:20 pm

gmc_nxtman wrote: Very strange reactions involving pis:

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RLEs
That second reaction allows for at least two new variations of components:

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x = 62, y = 45, rule = B3/S23
13b2o3b2o35b2o3b2o$13bobobobo35bobobobo$15bobo39bobo$14b2ob2o37b2ob2o$
2bo12bobo$obo5bo6bobo38b2ob2o$b2o6bo4b2ob2o38bobo$7b3o45bobobobo$3b2o
50b2o3b2o$2bobo$4bo2$16b2o$17b2o$16bo7b2o$3b2o19bobo$2bobo19bo$4bo7b2o
$13b2o14b2o$12bo16bobo$29bo12$13b2o3b2o35b2o3b2o$13bobobobo5bobo27bobo
bobo$15bobo7b2o30bobo$14b2ob2o7bo29b2ob2o$24bo$14b2ob2o4b2o31b2ob2o$2b
o5bo6bobo5bobo31bobo$3bo5bo3bobobobo37bobo$b3o3b3o3b2o3b2o8bo26bobobob
o$27b2o26b2o3b2o$5bo21bobo$5b2o$4bobo!
In each case the new component is on the left, and the known way of doing that conversion is on the right.

EDIT: Very different block-to-beacon component:

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x = 44, y = 29, rule = B3/S23
20bo$2bo15b2o$3b2o14b2o$2b2o9$9bo30b2o$10b2o28bo$9b2o6b2o24bo$17b2o23b
2o$10bo$10b2o$9bobo4$3b2o$4b2o8bo$3bo9b2o$8b2o3bobo$bo7b2o$b2o5bo$obo!
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Re: Thread For Your Accidental Discoveries

Post by gmc_nxtman » August 26th, 2015, 7:18 am

Totally did not expect to find this canoe-generating pattern while searching for a gun reaction:

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x = 11, y = 9, rule = B3/S23
6bo$7bo$5b3o3$5bo$bo3bo$obo2bo3b2o$2o7b2o!

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