GUYTU6J wrote: ↑December 18th, 2022, 10:28 am
Hopefully a repeat time of 1628 (or 1630 if no Bandersnatch is disallowed) is not too unoptimal...
Maybe I should have the residual beehive in H-to-MWSS removed with a glider that is duplicated from one of the final beehive-building gliders.
Looks like a great start!
I suspect there's a quicker repeat time to be had at the cost of just a
slightly slower launch of the MWSS, so this is one of those cases where there's no one best solution, it all depends on what you want to optimize.
My idea would be to liberate the first natural glider from the pseudo-Heisenburp's Herschel output -- that glider is just wasted at the moment. It can be used to fire an MWSS northward on the other side of the c/3 spaceship lane.
Come to think of it, that glider will most likely allow a repeat-time improvement even without changing the MWSS output. Let's see:
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x = 216, y = 467, rule = LifeHistory
164.2A$164.A.A$166.A4.2A$162.4A.2A2.A2.A$162.A2.A.A.A.A.2A$165.A.A.A.
A$166.2A.A.A$170.A2$156.2A$157.A7.2A$157.A.A5.2A$158.2A2$199.A$198.A.
A$198.A.A$197.2A.3A$185.2A16.A$168.2A15.2A10.2A.3A$168.A28.2A.A$169.
3A$171.A3$61.2A$61.A.A$63.A4.2A130.2A$59.4A.2A2.A2.A119.A8.2A$59.A2.A
.A.A.A.2A118.A.A$62.A.A.A.A121.A2.A$63.2A.A.A122.2A$67.A106.2A$173.A.
A$53.2A118.A24.2A$54.A7.A109.2A24.2A$54.A.A5.2A$55.2A$95.A$94.A.A$94.
A.A92.2A$93.2A.3A90.2A$81.2A16.A$81.2A10.2A.3A$65.2A26.2A.A$65.A$66.
3A$68.A3$206.A$96.2A106.3A$87.A8.2A105.A$86.A.A114.2A$86.A2.A53.2A$
87.2A53.A.A$70.2A64.2A4.A68.2A$69.A.A62.A2.A2.2A.4A65.A$69.A24.2A38.
2A.A.A.A.A2.A65.A.2A$68.2A24.2A41.A.A.A.A60.2A4.3A2.A$137.A.A.2A61.2A
3.A3.2A$138.A70.4A$195.2A15.A$151.2A41.A.A12.3A$85.2A55.2A7.A42.A13.A
$85.2A55.2A5.A.A41.2A14.5A$149.2A62.A$211.A$211.2A5$139.2A$140.A$137.
3A$82.A54.A$31.2A40.2A5.3A$32.A40.2A4.A$32.A.A44.2A$9.2A22.2A$10.A$8.
A31.D37.2A16.C$8.5A14.2A10.D.D16.2A13.2A3.2A17.C$13.A13.A11.D.D16.2A
13.2A20.3C$10.3A12.A.A12.D77.C$9.A15.2A90.C50.A$9.4A104.3C48.3A$7.2A
3.A3.2A153.A$6.A2.3A4.2A65.A86.2A$6.2A.A71.3A$9.A70.A$9.2A69.2A$42.A$
41.A.A$17.2A23.2A$18.A88.2D71.2A$15.3A88.D2.D63.2A5.A.A$15.A83.2A6.2D
64.2A7.A$99.2A81.2A2$169.A$168.A.A.2A$168.A.A.A.A$165.2A.A.A.A.A2.A$
3.2A97.2A61.A2.A2.2A.4A$4.A98.A63.2A4.A$2.A99.A70.A.A$2.5A14.2A79.2A
20.C49.2A$7.A13.A101.4C$4.3A12.A.A33.2A61.C3.C3.2C.2C$3.A15.2A34.A61.
4C5.C2.2C$3.4A50.A54.C3.C3.C7.C2.C$.2A3.A3.2A25.2A14.5A53.4C4.C2.C$A
2.3A4.2A26.A13.A57.C3.C6.C$2A.A34.A.A12.3A28.A26.C.C2.C$3.A35.2A15.A
25.3A30.C$3.2A48.4A24.A$48.2A3.A3.2A22.2A$48.2A4.3A2.A$11.2A43.A.2A$
12.A43.A32.2A$9.3A43.2A33.A$9.A80.A.2A$82.2A4.3A2.A$47.2A33.2A3.A3.2A
$13.2A32.A39.4A$13.2A33.3A6.A15.2A15.A$50.A4.3A10.2A2.A.A12.3A$54.A
14.A2.A13.A$29.D11.2A11.2A11.A2.3A14.5A$29.3D9.2A24.3A21.A$29.D.D38.A
18.A$31.D37.2A18.2A$84.2A$9.2A73.A$9.2A70.2A.A$56.D23.A2.A$54.D.D24.
2A$54.3D9.2A$30.2A22.D11.2A$30.A.A$32.A$32.2A$53.2A3.A$53.A3.A.A$54.A
3.A.A$12.2A27.2A12.A3.A.A.2A$12.2A28.A10.A.4A2.A.2A$39.3A10.A.A3.A.A$
39.A12.A.A2.A2.2A.2A$53.A3.2A2.A.A$20.A40.A.A10.2A$19.A.A40.A11.2A$
19.A.A$20.A303$124.A$123.4A$118.A3.A3.2A.2A$117.4A5.A2.2A$112.A3.A3.A
7.A2.A$111.4A4.A2.A$110.A3.A6.A$111.A.A2.A$115.A!
That's repeat time 1050 on just the first try. Seems like it could maybe be knocked down to a three-digit number by changing out the Fx77 in the lower left for something like an Fx153 (different color Herschel output, so Bandersnatch not needed). On the other hand, that substitution adds 76 ticks and some extra distance, so maybe some other trick will be better.
EDIT: I tried an idea involving an H-to-G0 that seemed clever at the time, but it added too much delay and ended up slower overall -- 1230 for the version on the right, and not-going-to-bother-finishing-it-but-it-would-be-1105 for the version on the left:
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x = 450, y = 528, rule = LifeHistory
157.2A$157.A.A224.2A$159.A4.2A218.A.A$155.4A.2A2.A2.A218.A4.2A$155.A
2.A.A.A.A.2A214.4A.2A2.A2.A$158.A.A.A.A217.A2.A.A.A.A.2A$159.2A.A.A
220.A.A.A.A$163.A222.2A.A.A$390.A$149.2A$150.A7.2A216.2A$150.A.A5.2A
217.A7.2A$151.2A224.A.A5.2A$378.2A$192.A$191.A.A$191.A.A147.A$190.2A.
3A144.A.A$178.2A16.A143.A.A7.2A$161.2A15.2A10.2A.3A142.3A.2A6.2A$161.
A28.2A.A143.A19.2A29.2A$162.3A173.3A.2A13.2A29.A$164.A175.A.2A45.3A$
391.A3$353.A$193.2A157.A.A$184.A8.2A156.A2.A$183.A.A166.2A9.2A$183.A
2.A176.2A$184.2A$167.2A$166.A.A172.2A$63.2A101.A24.2A148.2A$63.A.A99.
2A24.2A78.2A11.A6.2A16.2A$65.A4.2A199.2A10.A.A4.A2.A15.A$61.4A.2A2.A
2.A209.A.A3.A.3A2.2A9.A.A$61.A2.A.A.A.A.2A208.2A.2A.A.A6.A9.2A$64.A.A
.A.A215.A.A3.2A3.A.A$65.2A.A.A111.2A98.2A.A2.4A.A4.2A$69.A112.2A98.2A
.A.A3.A$286.A.A3.A$55.2A230.A.A3.A$56.A7.A29.A193.A3.2A14.A46.2A$56.A
.A5.2A27.A.A211.A.A45.A$57.2A34.A.A212.A47.3A$92.2A.3A260.A$80.2A16.A
180.2A159.A$80.2A10.2A.3A181.2A157.3A$92.2A.A103.A64.2A171.A$197.3A
63.A2.A170.2A$196.A65.A.2A42.2A$67.2A127.2A64.A45.2A$67.A68.2A123.2A
182.2A$68.3A64.A.A138.2A68.2A98.A$70.A58.2A4.A68.2A70.A68.A.A98.A.2A$
95.2A30.A2.A2.2A.4A65.A71.3A59.2A4.A92.2A4.3A2.A$86.A8.2A30.2A.A.A.A.
A2.A65.A.2A70.A5.2A50.A2.A2.2A.4A88.2A3.A3.2A$85.A.A42.A.A.A.A60.2A4.
3A2.A75.A.A50.2A.A.A.A.A2.A93.4A$85.A2.A41.A.A.2A61.2A3.A3.2A76.A55.A
.A.A.A82.2A15.A$86.2A43.A70.4A77.2A55.A.A.2A82.A.A12.3A$69.2A117.2A
15.A135.A86.A13.A$68.A.A73.2A41.A.A12.3A222.2A14.5A$68.A24.2A40.2A7.A
42.A13.A89.A15.2A45.2A91.A$67.2A24.2A40.2A5.A.A41.2A14.5A83.A.A14.A.A
35.2A7.A90.A$142.2A62.A83.A.A16.A35.2A5.A.A90.2A$204.A86.A17.2A41.2A$
204.2A89.2A$295.A.A$84.2A41.2A168.A$84.2A41.2A168.2A2$132.2A$133.A
208.2A$130.3A210.A$75.A54.A209.3A$66.2A5.3A209.A54.A$23.2A41.2A4.A
203.2A5.3A$24.A47.2A159.2A41.2A4.A$24.A.A58.2A147.A47.2A$25.2A58.2A
147.A.A$33.D37.2A16.C145.2A$32.D.D16.2A13.2A3.2A17.C152.D37.2A16.C$
32.D.D16.2A13.2A20.3C151.D.D16.2A13.2A3.2A17.C$33.D77.C130.D.D16.2A
13.2A20.3C$110.C50.A81.D77.C$110.3C48.3A156.C$164.A155.3C$76.A86.2A$
10.2A62.3A209.A$11.A61.A146.2A62.3A$9.A63.2A146.A61.A$9.5A14.2A5.A
183.A63.2A$14.A13.A5.A.A182.5A14.2A5.A$11.3A12.A.A6.2A187.A13.A5.A.A$
10.A15.2A72.2D71.2A46.3A12.A.A6.2A$10.4A85.D2.D63.2A5.A.A44.A15.2A72.
2D$8.2A3.A3.2A73.2A6.2D64.2A7.A44.4A85.D2.D$7.A2.3A4.2A73.2A81.2A41.
2A3.A3.2A73.2A6.2D$7.2A.A206.A2.3A4.2A73.2A$10.A151.A54.2A.A164.A$10.
2A149.A.A.2A53.A164.3A$161.A.A.A.A52.2A166.A$158.2A.A.A.A.A2.A216.2A$
18.2A75.2A61.A2.A2.2A.4A$19.A76.A63.2A4.A61.2A75.2A$16.3A76.A70.A.A
60.A76.A$16.A78.2A20.C49.2A57.3A76.A$116.4C106.A78.2A20.C$111.C3.C3.
2C.2C202.4C$47.2A61.4C5.C2.2C197.C3.C3.2C.2C63.2A$47.A57.C3.C3.C7.C2.
C132.2A61.4C5.C2.2C56.2A5.A.A$49.A54.4C4.C2.C141.A57.C3.C3.C7.C2.C55.
2A7.A$29.2A14.5A53.C3.C6.C144.A54.4C4.C2.C73.2A$30.A13.A32.A26.C.C2.C
129.2A14.5A53.C3.C6.C$30.A.A12.3A27.3A30.C131.A13.A32.A26.C.C2.C66.A$
31.2A15.A25.A165.A.A12.3A27.3A30.C66.A.A.2A$45.4A25.2A165.2A15.A25.A
100.A.A.A.A$40.2A3.A3.2A204.4A25.2A96.2A.A.A.A.A2.A$40.2A4.3A2.A198.
2A3.A3.2A121.A2.A2.2A.4A$48.A.2A30.2A166.2A4.3A2.A122.2A4.A$48.A34.A
174.A.2A30.2A96.A.A$47.2A34.A.2A171.A34.A97.2A$75.2A4.3A2.A170.2A34.A
.2A$4.2A69.2A3.A3.2A199.2A4.3A2.A$5.A33.2A39.4A130.2A69.2A3.A3.2A$5.A
.A31.A26.2A15.A131.A33.2A39.4A$6.2A2.2A28.3A6.A15.A.A12.3A132.A.A31.A
26.2A15.A$10.2A30.A4.3A15.A13.A136.2A2.2A28.3A6.A15.A.A12.3A$46.A17.
2A14.5A135.2A30.A4.3A15.A13.A$21.D11.2A11.2A11.A24.A171.A17.2A14.5A$
21.3D9.2A24.3A20.A148.D11.2A11.2A11.A24.A$21.D.D38.A19.2A147.3D9.2A
24.3A20.A$23.D37.2A168.D.D38.A19.2A$76.2A155.D37.2A$76.A209.2A$73.2A.
A209.A$48.D23.A2.A207.2A.A$46.D.D24.2A183.D23.A2.A$46.3D9.2A196.D.D
24.2A$22.2A22.D11.2A196.3D9.2A$2.2A18.A.A207.2A22.D11.2A$.A.A20.A187.
2A18.A.A$.A22.2A185.A.A20.A$2A43.2A3.A160.A22.2A$45.A3.A.A158.2A43.2A
3.A$46.A3.A.A202.A3.A.A$33.2A12.A3.A.A.2A199.A3.A.A$34.A10.A.4A2.A.2A
186.2A12.A3.A.A.2A$31.3A10.A.A3.A.A191.A10.A.4A2.A.2A$5.A.2A22.A12.A.
A2.A2.2A.2A184.3A10.A.A3.A.A$3.3A.2A36.A3.2A2.A.A159.A.2A22.A12.A.A2.
A2.2A.2A$2.A50.A.A10.2A145.3A.2A36.A3.2A2.A.A$3.3A.2A45.A11.2A144.A
50.A.A10.2A$5.2A2.A203.3A.2A45.A11.2A$8.2A205.2A2.A$218.2A301$117.A$
116.4A$111.A3.A3.2A.2A$110.4A5.A2.2A$105.A3.A3.A7.A2.A$104.4A4.A2.A$
103.A3.A6.A$104.A.A2.A$108.A53$327.A$326.4A$321.A3.A3.2A.2A$320.4A5.A
2.2A$315.A3.A3.A7.A2.A$314.4A4.A2.A$313.A3.A6.A$314.A.A2.A$318.A!
I guess I should have used the SW-2T103 G0 conduit to cut 37 ticks off of that, but it's still not going to be competitive (1068) unless someone can find another trick to go along with it.
I guess that output glider toward the NE could be split to make an extra signal to restore a bait boat turner, but that only cuts the repeat time down to 1022 so it hardly seems worth the extra complication:
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x = 124, y = 409, rule = LifeHistory
62.A$61.A.A$62.2A26$74.A$65.2A5.3A$22.2A41.2A4.A$23.A47.2A$23.A.A$24.
2A$32.D37.2A16.C$31.D.D16.2A13.2A3.2A17.C$31.D.D16.2A13.2A20.3C$32.D
77.C$109.C$109.3C2$75.A$9.2A62.3A$10.A61.A$8.A63.2A$8.5A14.2A5.A$13.A
13.A5.A.A$10.3A12.A.A6.2A$9.A15.2A72.2D$9.4A85.D2.D$7.2A3.A3.2A73.2A
6.2D$6.A2.3A4.2A73.2A$6.2A.A$9.A$9.2A3$17.2A75.2A$18.A76.A$15.3A76.A$
15.A78.2A20.C$115.4C$110.C3.C3.2C.2C$46.2A61.4C5.C2.2C$46.A57.C3.C3.C
7.C2.C$48.A54.4C4.C2.C$28.2A14.5A53.C3.C6.C$29.A13.A32.A26.C.C2.C$29.
A.A12.3A27.3A30.C$30.2A15.A25.A$44.4A25.2A$39.2A3.A3.2A$39.2A4.3A2.A$
47.A.2A30.2A$7.2A38.A34.A$5.3A38.2A34.A.2A$4.A4.A2.A61.2A4.3A2.A$5.3A
.4A61.2A3.A3.2A$7.A30.2A39.4A$8.3A3.A23.A26.2A15.A$10.A2.A.A23.3A6.A
15.A.A12.3A$4.2A8.A26.A4.3A15.A13.A$3.A.A39.A17.2A14.5A$3.A16.D11.2A
11.2A11.A24.A$2.2A16.3D9.2A24.3A20.A$20.D.D38.A19.2A$22.D37.2A$75.2A$
75.A$72.2A.A$47.D23.A2.A$2A43.D.D24.2A$.A43.3D9.2A$.A.A17.2A22.D11.2A
$2.2A17.A.A$23.A$23.2A$16.A27.2A3.A$16.3A25.A3.A.A$19.A25.A3.A.A$18.
2A12.2A12.A3.A.A.2A$33.A10.A.4A2.A.2A$12.2A16.3A10.A.A3.A.A$12.A.A15.
A12.A.A2.A2.2A.2A$14.A29.A3.2A2.A.A$14.2A36.A.A10.2A$53.A11.2A295$
115.2A$115.2A.2A$109.2A4.2A2.4A$109.2A.2A4.A4.A$103.2A4.A2.2A7.2A$
103.2A.2A4.2A$102.A3.2A$106.2A!
#C [[ STOP 1022 ]]
The big gains will come from not launching the MWSS quite so soon. There isn't really any kind of optimization requirement to launch it as soon as humanly possible -- otherwise we'd have to use some MWSS seed constellation or other, and build up a huge repeat time rebuilding it -- so let's just try getting some kind of output signal that can be turned into an MWSS later, and see how much that can reduce the repeat time.