Kazyan wrote: ↑February 7th, 2021, 4:26 pm
4G version
I guess that that's one of the advantages of a better cleanup: There are fewer cleanup gliders that could potentially be incompatible with a cheaper synthesis. Nice work.
By the way, has anyone looked at any of the other potential bases that I found?
MathAndCode wrote: ↑January 30th, 2021, 6:10 pm
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x = 5, y = 7, rule = B3/S23
4bo$2bobo$4bo2$2bo$2o$bo!
MathAndCode wrote: ↑February 4th, 2021, 6:58 pm
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x = 9, y = 12, rule = B3/S23
5bob2o$5b3o$2o4bo$2o5$5b2o$4bo2bo$4bo2bo$5b2o!
Also, an E-B might be a good base. Here is my best attempt so far to use it:
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x = 33, y = 32, rule = B3/S23
30bobo$30b2o$6bo24bo$7b2o$6b2o2$2bo$3b2o$2b2o12$24bo$22bobo$22b3o$23bo6$bo$b2o$obo!
Edit: Here's the best that I have so far from the second base:
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x = 25, y = 17, rule = B3/S23
15bob2o$15b3o$10b2o4bo$10b2o5$15b2o$14bobo$15bo$5b2o$6b2o$5bo16b2o$b2o
19bobo$obo19bo$2bo!
The block and boat can be constructed together with three gliders, which makes it record-tying. However, there might be a way to reduce the cleanup cost by a glider or to modify the reaction that results in a record-breaking synthesis of xs17_354mkk8z0252, xs19_354mkk8z0696, xs17_354mkk8zw56, or the like.
Another edit: It might be possible to do something like this if the loaf predecessor's dot spark can be removed without the PASTE command.
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x = 40, y = 31, rule = B3/S23
26bo$25bo$25b3o$7bo$8b2o$7b2o2$10bo$2bobo6b2o26bo$3b2o5b2o25b2o$3bo34b
2o6$25bob2o$25b3o$20b2o4bo$20b2o5$2o4b3o16b2o$b2o5bo15bobo$o6bo17bo$16b
o$16b2o15bo$15bobo14b2o$32bobo!
[[ PASTEMODE XOR PASTET 32 PASTE o! 29 16 ]]
I'm sure that there are other ways to stabilize the left side.
Yet another edit: I think that this is progress.
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x = 43, y = 31, rule = B3/S23
26bo$25bo$25b3o$7bo$8b2o$7b2o31bobo$40b2o$10bo30bo$2bobo6b2o$3b2o5b2o
$3bo6$25bob2o$25b3o$20b2o4bo$20b2o3$38b2o$37b2o$2o4b3o16b2o12bo$b2o5b
o15bobo$o6bo17bo$16bo$16b2o15bo$15bobo14b2o$32bobo!
Fourth edit: I think that this is mostly complete but can almost certainly be reduced, which would probably make it easier to complete.
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x = 41, y = 40, rule = B3/S23
16bo19bo$17bo16b2o$4bo10b3o17b2o$5b2o14bo$4b2o13bobo$20b2o$obo$b2o31b
obo$bo32b2o$4bo30bo$5b2o$4b2o$11b2o$12b2o17bo$11bo17bobo$30b2o2$38bo$
19bob2o13b2o$19b3o15b2o$14b2o4bo$14b2o3$32b2o$31b2o$3o16b2o12bo3b2o$2b
o15bobo15b2ob2o$bo17bo17b4o$10bo27b2o$10b2o15bo$9bobo14b2o$26bobo5$34b
2o$34bobo$34bo!
Fifth edit: I have a plan, but I need help getting the last few pieces in.
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x = 41, y = 40, rule = B3/S23
16bo19bo$17bo16b2o$4bo10b3o17b2o$5b2o14bo$4b2o13bobo$20b2o$obo$b2o31b
obo$bo32b2o$4bo30bo$5b2o$4b2o$11b2o$12b2o17bo$11bo17bobo$30b2o2$38bo$
19bob2o13b2o$19b3o15b2o$14b2o4bo$14b2o3$32b2o$31b2o$3o16b2o12bo3b2o$2b
o15bobo15b2ob2o$bo17bo17b4o$10bo27b2o$10b2o15bo$9bobo14b2o$26bobo5$34b
2o$34bobo$34bo!
[[ PASTET 28 PASTE 2o! 7 23 PASTET 34 PASTE 2o$o! 8 11 PASTET 38 PASTE o! 26 19 ]]
Sixth edit: Actually, I just realized that this is possible:
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x = 42, y = 40, rule = B3/S23
obo14bo19bo$b2o15bo16b2o$bo3bo10b3o17b2o$6b2o14bo$5b2o13bobo$21b2o$bo
bo$2b2o31bobo$2bo32b2o$5bo30bo$6b2o$5b2o$12b2o$13b2o17bo$12bo17bobo$31b
2o2$39bo$20bob2o13b2o$20b3o15b2o$15b2o4bo$15b2o3$33b2o$32b2o$b3o16b2o
12bo3b2o$3bo15bobo15b2ob2o$2bo17bo17b4o$11bo27b2o$11b2o15bo$10bobo14b
2o$27bobo5$35b2o$35bobo$35bo!
[[ PASTET 28 PASTE 2o! 9 23 PASTET 38 PASTE o! 27 19 ]]
I now plan to shoot for that instead.
Seventh edit: I'm working on using the first base now. Here's a close call:
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x = 16, y = 15, rule = B3/S23
4bo3bobo2bobo$4b2o2b2o3b2o$4bo4bo4bo$bo2bo$2ob2o4bo$7bobo$9bo$12bo$7b
o4bobo$5b2o5b2o$6bo3$9b2o$8bob2o!
Also, this would work if someone can figure out how to prevent the top two gliders from interacting with each other too soon.
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x = 15, y = 15, rule = B3/S23
3bobo3bo$7b2o3bo$bo6b2o2bobo$o4bo2b2o2b2o$o3b2o3bo$b3o4b2o$9bo$12bo$5b
3o3bo$7bo3b3o$5bobo2$10bo$9bobo$9bobo!
Eighth edit: I made some progress with using E-B as a base.
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x = 33, y = 33, rule = B3/S23
32bo$30b2o$31b2o$6bo$7b2o$6b2o2$2bo$3b2o$2b2o12$24bo$22bobo$22b3o$23b
o6$bo$b2o$obo!
Ninth edit: I'm trying to make this work.
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x = 43, y = 42, rule = B3/S23
30bobo$30b2o$6bo24bo$7b2o$6b2o2$2bo$3b2o$2b2o$38bo$36b2o$37b2o9$24bo$
22bobo$22b3o$23bo6$bo$b2o38b2o$obo37b2o$42bo7$29b2o$28b2o$30bo!
[[ PASTET 44 PASTE bo$o$3o$5bo$4b2o$4bobo! 23 12 PASTET 47 PASTE o$o! 14 13 PASTEMODE XOR PASTET 49 PASTE o! 22 16 PASTE o! 25 17 ]]
Tenth edit: Here is the main step of a synthesis of a thirty-cell still life using a base that I found while searching for blonk-tie-accepting conduits:
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x = 96, y = 67, rule = B3/S23
26bo$27b2o$26b2o3$92bo$91bo$91b3o8$32bo$33bo$31b3o6$66b2o5b2o$65bobo5b
o$65bo5bobo$64b2o5b2o7$70b3o$70bo$71bo6$51b2o$51bobo$51bo2$23b2o$24b2o
$23bo$94bo$93b2o$93bobo2$bo$b2o$obo37b3o$42bo$41bo3$85b3o$85bo$86bo2$
46b3o$48bo$47bo!
Eleventh edit: I realized that that banana spark insertion reaction can help with another synthesis.
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x = 46, y = 81, rule = B3/S23
33bobo$33b2o$34bo20$27bo$25b2o$26b2o$o$b2o$2o3$16bo$17bo4b2o$15b3o4bo
bo$22bo6$33bobo$33b2o$9bo24bo$10b2o$9b2o2$5bo$6b2o$5b2o$41bo$39b2o$40b
2o9$27bo$25bobo$25b3o$26bo6$4bo$4b2o38b2o$3bobo37b2o$45bo7$32b2o$31b2o
$33bo!
[[ PASTET 44 PASTE bo$o$3o$5bo$4b2o$4bobo! 26 51 PASTEMODE XOR PASTET 49 PASTE o! 25 55 PASTE o! 28 56 ]]
Twelfth edit: Actually, this will likely be easier:
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x = 43, y = 42, rule = B3/S23
30bobo$30b2o$6bo24bo$7b2o$6b2o2$2bo$3b2o$2b2o$38bo$36b2o$37b2o9$24bo$
22bobo$22b3o$23bo6$bo$b2o38b2o$obo37b2o$42bo7$29b2o$28b2o$30bo!
[[ PASTET 47 PASTE o2$2bo! 19 12 ]]
This may also be possible:
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x = 43, y = 43, rule = B3/S23
30bo$28b2o$29b2o$6bo$7b2o$6b2o2$2bo$3b2o$2b2o$38bo$36b2o$37b2o9$24bo$
22bobo$22b3o$23bo6$bo$b2o38b2o$obo37b2o$42bo7$29b2o$28b2o$30bo!
[[ PASTET 48 PASTE o! 21 15 ]]
I am tentatively considering myself back.