## Incomplete search patterns - try to complete

For discussion of specific patterns or specific families of patterns, both newly-discovered and well-known.
knightlife
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### Re: Incomplete search patterns - try to complete

calcyman wrote:That's the most promising result. It's a shame that the block is displaced by (3,0).
I found a simple Hershel reaction that can move a block by (3,0)!

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``````x = 9, y = 12, rule = B3/S23
7b2o\$7b2o8\$3o\$bo\$b3o!
``````
With this reaction a stable reflector becomes much easier to make, which I will describe here.
A simple Herschel conduit should be able to restore the moved block, using the output Herschel and looping around to the required position.
Fortunately, all the mirror images of the reaction are available because of the all-way symmetry of the block.

Here is the partial construction:

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``````x = 66, y = 59, rule = B3/S23
bo\$2b2o\$b2o10\$2o\$bo\$bobo\$2b2o11\$36bo\$35bobo\$35bobo\$36bo3\$20b3o\$20bo\$
19b3o6\$16bo\$16bo28b2o\$14b3o9b2o17b2o\$14bo11b2o5\$56b2o\$55bo2bo2b2o\$55bo
bo4bo\$36b2o18bo5bob2o\$35bobo21b2obobo\$35bo23bo2bo2bo\$34b2o20bo4bo2b2o\$
56b5o2\$58b2obo\$58bob2o!
``````
The final reconstruction happens first in this demo, and the extra glider from the reaction is stopped with an eater. The ghosted Herschel is the position of the output glider, which needs to be looped around clockwise to produce the final reconstruction (the (3,0) block move).

The only tricky part might be allowing a clear path for the input glider.

The speed of recovery looks fairly good, because the output Herschel is generated quickly from the initial pi reaction.
I would love to complete this stable reflector myself but I don't think I would get to it for quite a while.
Someone with Hersrch should be able to find the right conduit in short order (hopefully).
Oh, yeah... the output glider for this reflector has to come from the Hershel conduit, which should not be a problem.

It won't win any prizes, but it might beat the record, who knows?

calcyman
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Joined: June 1st, 2009, 4:32 pm

### Re: Incomplete search patterns - try to complete

There aren't many ways to allow the input glider to reach its destination. However, I managed to find one solution:

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``````x = 126, y = 109, rule = B3/S23
90bo\$88boo\$89boo5\$64boo\$57boo5boo\$57boo\$94bo\$92b3o\$59boo30bo\$59boo30b
oo\$53boo\$53boo5\$99boo\$99bo\$97bobo\$97boo3\$104bo\$102b3o\$50boo49bo\$51bo
49boo14boo\$51bobo63boo\$52boo\$44bo\$44b3o76boo\$47bo75boo\$46boo71boo\$67b
oo50boo\$67bo\$34boo29bobo\$35bo29boo\$35bobo86boo\$36boo55boo29boo\$93bo\$
94b3o\$96bo8\$29bo\$28bobo\$28bobo27boo\$29bo28boo5boo\$65boo3\$63boo\$63boo\$
69boo\$69boo\$\$96boo\$38boo55bobo\$38boo55bo16boo\$19boo73boo16boo7boo\$19b
oo100bo\$119bobo\$119boo3\$105boo\$8boo63bo30bobo\$3boobbobbo60b3o30bo\$3bo
4bobo59bo32boo\$oobo5bo18boo40boo\$boboboo21bobo45bo\$obbobbo23bo43b3o\$oo
bbo4bo20boo41bo\$5b5o63boo\$\$4boboo\$4boobo3\$76boo\$57boo17boo\$57boo38boo\$
97boo\$\$56boo\$57bo\$54b3o12boo\$54bo14bo51boo\$70b3o48boo\$72bo3\$121boo\$
121boo\$107boo\$106bobo\$106bo\$105boo8boo\$115bo\$116b3o\$118bo!``````
Notice that the Herschel track is only composed of blocks and eaters (the beehive and eater3 being part of the rectifier).

It produces eight gliders, one of which returns on the exact same lane as the input glider. This facilitates this (very silly) pattern:

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``````x = 202, y = 202, rule = B3/S23
170boboo\$170boobo\$\$168b5o\$168bo4bobboo\$171bobbobbo\$171boobobo\$168bo5bo
boo\$167bobo4bo\$167bobbobboo\$168boo9\$160boo\$160boo8\$146boo22boo\$145bobb
o21bo\$146boo23b3o\$173bo3\$131bo\$131b3o\$134bo\$133boo\$158boo\$158boo5\$125b
oo\$126bo\$126bobo\$127boo\$\$133b3o\$121bo13bo\$121b3o10bo\$124bo\$107boo14boo
\$107boo78boo\$187bo\$185bobo\$101boo78boobboo\$101boo44boo32boo\$105boo40b
oo\$105boo3\$152boo\$100boo50boo\$100boo29boo15boo\$132bo15boo\$129b3o\$129bo
\$154boo31boo\$154boo13boo16bobo\$168bobo18bo\$168bo20boo\$167boo4boo\$172bo
bo\$172bo\$171boo7boo\$180boo14\$105boo\$104bobo\$104bo29boo\$103boo29bobo23b
o\$136bo21b3o\$136boo19bo\$115boo40boo23boo\$116bo65boo\$113b3o\$64boo47bo\$
57boo5boo55boo\$57boo44boo15bobo\$94bo7bobbo14bo48bo\$92b3o8bobo13boo46b
3o\$59boo30bo12bo61bo31bo\$59boo30boo73boo28b3o\$53boo140bo\$53boo140boo4\$
159boo\$99boo58boo\$99bo\$97bobo98boo\$97boo99bobo\$122boo76bo\$122boo76boo\$
104bo23boo32boo\$102b3o23boo33bo\$50boo49bo58b3o25boo3boo\$51bo49boo14boo
41bo27boo3boo\$51bobo63boo7boo\$52boo72boo5boo\$44bo88boo\$44b3o76boo\$47bo
75boo\$46boo71boo\$67boo50boo\$67bo\$34boo29bobo\$35bo29boo\$35bobo86boo\$36b
oo55boo29boo\$93bo\$94b3o\$96bo8\$29bo\$28bobo\$28bobo27boo\$29bo28boo5boo\$
65boo3\$63boo\$63boo\$69boo\$69boo\$\$96boo\$38boo55bobo\$38boo55bo16boo\$19boo
73boo16boo7boo\$19boo100bo\$119bobo\$119boo3\$105boo\$8boo63bo30bobo\$3boobb
obbo60b3o30bo\$3bo4bobo59bo32boo\$oobo5bo18boo40boo\$boboboo21bobo45bo\$o
bbobbo23bo43b3o\$oobbo4bo20boo41bo\$5b5o63boo\$\$4boboo\$4boobo3\$76boo\$57b
oo17boo\$57boo38boo\$97boo\$\$56boo\$57bo\$54b3o12boo\$54bo14bo51boo\$70b3o48b
oo\$72bo3\$121boo\$121boo\$107boo\$106bobo\$106bo\$105boo8boo\$115bo\$116b3o\$
118bo!``````
What do you do with ill crystallographers? Take them to the mono-clinic!

calcyman
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Joined: June 1st, 2009, 4:32 pm

### Re: Incomplete search patterns - try to complete

Here's a much better solution, which has a custom Herschel conduit inside it. In other words, this could not have been found by a simple Hersrch search:

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``````x = 162, y = 75, rule = B3/S23
75bo47boo\$73b3o47boo\$72bo28bo\$72boo27b3o\$60bo43bo\$43boo15b3o40boo39boo
\$4boobo36bo18bo80boo5boo\$4boboo36bobo15boo20bo66boo\$45boo37b3o\$5b5o77b
o\$oobbo4bo20boo44boo8boo11boo48boo\$obbobbo23bo45boo21boo48boo\$boboboo
21bobo124boo\$oobo5bo18boo125boo\$3bo4bobo\$3boobbobbo\$8boo3\$124boo\$111b
oo11boo\$53boo57bo\$19boo32boo54b3o\$19boo88bo\$38boo43bo3boo\$38boo42bobo
3bo39boo\$77boobbobo3bo12boo27bo\$77bo3bo4bo13bobo23b3o\$78b4o5b3o12bo23b
o\$89bo12boo17boo\$80boo40bo\$80boo24bo15bobo\$104b3o16boo\$103bo\$103boo\$
29bo\$28bobo52bo76boo\$28bobo50b3o76boo\$29bo50bo\$67boo11boo\$67boo\$155boo
\$155boo\$159boo\$159boo\$\$36boo\$36boo86boo27boo\$42boo80boo11boo14boo\$42b
oo93bo\$138b3o\$140bo\$40boo\$40boo5boo71boo\$47boo39boo30bo\$88bo5boo25b3o\$
89b3obobo27bo\$91bobo7boo\$68boo22boo7boo\$68boo13\$73boo\$72boo\$74bo!``````
The recovery time is less than 1000, which is better than infinity.

The reason for the custom Herschel conduit is the excess glider from the Herschel that enters the R64 conduit. It would collide with a normal F166, so the final block+snake combination has been removed. This leaves an extra block from the output B-heptomino, which is converted into a pi by the nuisance glider. However, the pi is in just the right place to be eaten by a standard eater. Unfortunately, this generated another problem -- the eater was in the way of the FNG from the output Herschel. This needed to be cleaned up with a special eater5 combo, which welds elegantly to the standard eater.
What do you do with ill crystallographers? Take them to the mono-clinic!

calcyman
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Joined: June 1st, 2009, 4:32 pm

### Re: Incomplete search patterns - try to complete

And, at 60 cells wide, this is officially the thinnest 90° stable reflector!
What do you do with ill crystallographers? Take them to the mono-clinic!

knightlife
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Joined: May 31st, 2009, 12:08 am

### Re: Incomplete search patterns - try to complete

calcyman wrote:The recovery time is less than 1000, which is better than infinity.
Well, at least it's completed. Thanks, calcyman. [The thinnest... hehe]

Sokwe
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### Re: Incomplete search patterns - try to complete

MikeP,

might your search program be able to find a replacement for the block in this pattern?

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``````x = 62, y = 79, rule = B3/S23
31b2o2\$29bo3bo\$29bo4bo\$31bobobo\$32bobobo\$33bo4bo\$28b2o4bo3bo\$29bo\$29bo
bo3b2o8b3o\$30b2o12bo3bo7bo\$43bo5bo5bobo\$43bo5bo4bo3bo\$26bo16bo5bo5bo3b
o\$25bobo16bo3bo7bo3bo\$24bo3bo9b3o4b3o9bo3bo\$25bo3bo7bo3bo16bobo\$26bo3b
o5bo5bo16bo\$27bo3bo4bo5bo\$22b2o4bobo5bo5bo\$23bo5bo7bo3bo12b2o\$23bobo
12b3o8b2o3bobo\$24b2o30bo\$28bo18bo3bo4b2o\$19b2o6b2o18bo4bo\$27bobo19bobo
bo\$17bo3bo28bobobo\$17bo4bo28bo4bo\$19bobobo28bo3bo\$20bobobo19bobo\$21bo
4bo18b2o6b2o\$16b2o4bo3bo18bo\$17bo\$17bobo3b2o8b3o\$18b2o12bo3bo\$31bo5bo\$
31bo5bo\$14bo16bo5bo\$13bobo16bo3bo\$12bo3bo9b3o4b3o18bobo\$13bo3bo7bo3bo
9b2o14b2o\$14bo3bo5bo5bo8b2o14bo\$15bo3bo4bo5bo\$10b2o4bobo5bo5bo\$11bo5bo
7bo3bo\$11bobo12b3o8b2o\$12b2o\$16bo18bo3bo\$7b2o6b2o18bo4bo\$15bobo19bobob
o\$5bo3bo28bobobo\$5bo4bo28bo4bo\$7bobobo28bo3bo\$8bobobo19bobo\$9bo4bo18b
2o6b2o\$4b2o4bo3bo18bo\$5bo30b2o\$5bobo3b2o8b3o12bobo\$6b2o12bo3bo7bo5bo\$
19bo5bo5bobo4b2o\$19bo5bo4bo3bo\$2bo16bo5bo5bo3bo\$bobo16bo3bo7bo3bo\$o3bo
9b3o4b3o9bo3bo\$bo3bo7bo3bo16bobo\$2bo3bo5bo5bo16bo\$3bo3bo4bo5bo\$4bobo5b
o5bo\$5bo7bo3bo12b2o\$14b3o8b2o3bobo\$32bo\$23bo3bo4b2o\$23bo4bo\$25bobobo\$
26bobobo\$27bo4bo\$28bo3bo2\$29b2o!``````
It's a bit of a long shot, but it could allow the construction of a period-40 gun, so it might be worth a try.

Another interesting possibility would be to find still lifes to replace the glider streams in this glider-supported p43 oscillator:

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``````x = 213, y = 96, rule = B3/S23
67bo\$66bo\$66b3o\$149bobo\$150b2o\$150bo6\$57bo\$55b2o\$56b2o103bo\$162bo\$160b
3o7\$45bo\$45bobo\$45b2o124bo\$172b2o\$171b2o\$2bo\$obo152bo\$b2o152b3o54bo\$
158bo51b2o\$157b2o52b2o3\$48bob2o116bob2o\$47b2ob2o115b2ob2o14b2o\$48bo2bo
116bo2bo14bo\$184bobo\$11bobo170b2o\$12b2o\$12bo187bo\$200bobo\$145bo54b2o\$
145b2o\$34b3o107bobo7b3o\$34b2o35b3o80b2o\$71bo\$34b3o23bo11bo81b3o23bo\$
23bo11bo23b3o93bo23b3o\$24bo\$22b3o35b2o118b2o\$59b3o117b3o7bobo\$189b2o\$
134b2o54bo\$133bobo\$83bo51bo\$82b2o\$82bobo65b2o\$149bobo\$44bo2bo101bo14bo
2bo\$44b2ob2o99b2o14b2ob2o\$44b2obo116b2obo3\$123b2o52b2o\$124b2o51bo\$93b
2o28bo54b3o\$93bobo84bo\$93bo\$163b2o\$162b2o\$49b2o113bo\$48bobo\$50bo7\$173b
3o\$173bo\$38b2o134bo\$39b2o\$38bo6\$185bo\$184b2o\$184bobo\$27b3o\$29bo\$28bo!``````
Edit: I may have found a more plausible alternative for the p40 gun. I think it could work if someone could complete this period-5 sparker:

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``````x = 62, y = 79, rule = B3/S23
31b2o2\$29bo3bo\$29bo4bo\$31bobobo\$32bobobo\$33bo4bo\$28b2o4bo3bo\$29bo\$29bo
bo3b2o8b3o\$30b2o12bo3bo7bo\$43bo5bo5bobo\$43bo5bo4bo3bo\$26bo16bo5bo5bo3b
o\$25bobo16bo3bo7bo3bo\$24bo3bo9b3o4b3o9bo3bo\$25bo3bo7bo3bo16bobo\$26bo3b
o5bo5bo16bo\$27bo3bo4bo5bo\$22b2o4bobo5bo5bo\$23bo5bo7bo3bo12b2o\$23bobo
12b3o8b2o3bobo\$24b2o30bo\$28bo18bo3bo4b2o\$19b2o6b2o18bo4bo\$27bobo19bobo
bo\$17bo3bo28bobobo\$17bo4bo28bo4bo\$19bobobo28bo3bo\$20bobobo19bobo\$21bo
4bo18b2o6b2o\$16b2o4bo3bo18bo\$17bo\$17bobo3b2o8b3o\$18b2o12bo3bo\$31bo5bo\$
31bo5bo5bo\$14bo16bo5bo5b3o\$13bobo16bo3bo9bo\$12bo3bo9b3o4b3o8bo9bobo\$
13bo3bo7bo3bo13bo2b3o6b2o\$14bo3bo5bo5bo12b4o2bo5bo\$15bo3bo4bo5bo10b2o
3b2o2bo\$10b2o4bobo5bo5bo10bo2b4o3bo\$11bo5bo7bo3bo12bobo4bob3o\$11bobo
12b3o8b2o4bob4obo3bo\$12b2o30bo3bobo2b2o\$16bo18bo3bo4bobobobobo\$7b2o6b
2o18bo4bo7bobobob3o\$15bobo19bobobo4bo3b2obobobo\$5bo3bo28bobobo5b2o3bo
3bo\$5bo4bo28bo4bo2b3o2b3o2b2o\$7bobobo28bo3bo2b3o7bo\$8bobobo19bobo17b5o
\$9bo4bo18b2o6b2o12bo\$4b2o4bo3bo18bo19bo\$5bo30b2o15bo\$5bobo3b2o8b3o12bo
bo15bo\$6b2o12bo3bo7bo5bo\$19bo5bo5bobo4b2o\$19bo5bo4bo3bo\$2bo16bo5bo5bo
3bo\$bobo16bo3bo7bo3bo\$o3bo9b3o4b3o9bo3bo\$bo3bo7bo3bo16bobo\$2bo3bo5bo5b
o16bo\$3bo3bo4bo5bo\$4bobo5bo5bo\$5bo7bo3bo12b2o\$14b3o8b2o3bobo\$32bo\$23bo
3bo4b2o\$23bo4bo\$25bobobo\$26bobobo\$27bo4bo\$28bo3bo2\$29b2o!``````
Edit 2: Calcyman provided this p40 gun:

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``````x = 752, y = 510, rule = B3/S23
345bo60bo\$343b3o60b3o\$342bo66bo\$342b2o64b2o2\$339b3o68b3o\$341bo68bo\$
340bo70bo8\$329b3o88b3o\$331bo88bo\$330bo90bo8\$319b3o108b3o\$321bo108bo\$
320bo110bo4\$195b3o356b3o\$195b3o356b3o\$195b3o10bo334bo10b3o\$198b3o5b3o
334b3o5b3o\$198b3o4bo103b3o128b3o103bo4b3o\$198b3o4b2o104bo128bo104b2o4b
3o\$204b2o104bo130bo104b2o\$203b2o342b2o\$202b3o342b3o\$207b2o334b2o\$205bo
2bo334bo2bo\$174bo29bo342bo29bo\$202bo4bo336bo4bo\$172bob3o25bo3bo338bo3b
o25b3obo\$174b2obo8bo15b2o95b3o148b3o95b2o15bo8bob2o\$174bob2o6b3o114bo
148bo114b3o6b2obo\$175b3obo3bo116bo150bo116bo3bob3o\$183b2o43b2o292b2o
43b2o\$177bo48bob2o292b2obo48bo\$181bo43bo300bo43bo\$180bobo29b2o14bo294b
o14b2o29bobo\$181b2o2b2o24b2o11b2obo296bob2o11b2o24b2o2b2o\$185b2o5bo20b
o10b2o300b2o10bo20bo5b2o\$192bobo362bobo\$183bo8b2o27bo67b3o168b3o67bo
27b2o8bo\$182b2o36bobo68bo168bo68bobo36b2o\$182bobo35b2o68bo170bo68b2o
35bobo\$224b2o300b2o\$224bobo298bobo\$219b2o5bo298bo5b2o\$211b3o5b2o5b2o
296b2o5b2o5b3o\$173bo16b2o21bo324bo21b2o16bo\$172bo13b2o2b2o20bo326bo20b
2o2b2o13bo\$172b3o10bobo376bobo10b3o\$186bo92b3o188b3o92bo\$181b3o97bo
188bo97b3o\$184bo3b2o90bo190bo90b2o3bo\$180bo3bo3bo374bo3bo3bo\$179bobo2b
o4b3o368b3o4bo2bobo\$177bo2bobo8bo368bo8bobo2bo\$147b2o28bo3bo19b3o344b
3o19bo3bo28b2o\$144bo18bo13bo25bo344bo25bo13bo18bo\$143bobo2b2o12bo15b3o
21bo346bo21b3o15bo12b2o2bobo\$141bobob3o2bo11b3o56bo308bo56b3o11bo2b3ob
obo\$141bo2b6o70bobo46b3o208b3o46bobo70b6o2bo\$144b2ob2o72bo6b2o41bo208b
o41b2o6bo72b2ob2o\$143b6o2bo14bo61bobo39bo210bo39bobo61bo14bo2b6o\$142bo
2b3obobo57bo9b5ob2obobo290bobob2ob5o9bo57bobob3o2bo\$143b2o2bobo14b3obo
39bobo8bo3bobo2bob2o288b2obo2bobo3bo8bobo39bob3o14bobo2b2o\$148bo14bob
2o41bobo10bobobobo4bo286bo4bobobobo10bobo41b2obo14bo\$144b2o17b2obo7bo
16b3o13b2ob2o7bob3o3bobobobo284bobobobo3b3obo7b2ob2o13b3o16bo7bob2o17b
2o\$153bo7bob3o6b3o18bo12bo2bo3bo3bo5b3o3bobobo284bobobo3b3o5bo3bo3bo2b
o12bo18b3o6b3obo7bo\$152bo18bo6bo13bo7b2ob2o2bo2b2obo2b7o4bo4bo286bo4bo
4b7o2bob2o2bo2b2ob2o7bo13bo6bo18bo\$152b3o8bo7b2o4b3o19bob2o4bo2b2o3b4o
3b10o288b10o3b4o3b2o2bo4b2obo19b3o4b2o7bo8b3o\$176bob3o15bo2bobob3o7b3o
43b3o228b3o43b3o7b3obobo2bo15b3obo\$164bo10bo3bo16b3obo10bo4bo7b2o2b2o
31bo228bo31b2o2b2o7bo4bo10bob3o16bo3bo10bo\$162b3o9bo3bo15b2o4bo10b5obo
6b2o2b2o30bo230bo30b2o2b2o6bob5o10bo4b2o15bo3bo9b3o\$161bobobo7b3obo15b
o2b5o9bo6bo316bo6bo9b5o2bo15bob3o7bobobo\$149bo11bo3bo8b3o15bo2bo5b3o7b
3o3b2o314b2o3b3o7b3o5bo2bo15b3o8bo3bo11bo\$149b2o8b2o5b2o7bo15bo4b4ob3o
9bo107b2o106b2o107bo9b3ob4o4bo15bo7b2o5b2o8b2o\$148bobo7bo4bo4bo12b3o7b
ob2obo5b2o344b2o5bob2obo7b3o12bo4bo4bo7bobo\$157b3o2bobo3b2o13bo5bob4ob
obobo119bo3bo102bo3bo119bobobob4obo5bo13b2o3bobo2b3o\$158bo4bo5bo12bo5b
o3bobobo122bo4bo102bo4bo122bobobo3bo5bo12bo5bo4bo\$159b2o9bo17bobobob2o
b2o110bo8bobobo106bobobo8bo110b2ob2obobobo17bo9b2o\$161bo8b2o15b2o2b2o
3bo5bo46b3o57b3o5bobobo108bobobo5b3o57b3o46bo5bo3b2o2b2o15b2o8bo\$161b
2o8bo21bobo5b3o47bo60bo2bo4bo110bo4bo2bo60bo47b3o5bobo21bo8b2o\$162bo9b
2o19b2o5bob3o45bo60b2o2bo3bo112bo3bo2b2o60bo45b3obo5b2o19b2o9bo\$150bo
12bo5bo4bo13bo10bo3bo65bo212bo65bo3bo10bo13bo4bo5bo12bo\$139bo9bo13b2o
3bobo2b3o10b3o9bo3bo7bo57bobo43bo2b2o114b2o2bo43bobo57bo7bo3bo9b3o10b
3o2bobo3b2o13bo9bo\$139b2o8b3o12bo4bo4bo10bobobo7b3obo6b3o58bo6b2o35bob
o120bobo35b2o6bo58b3o6bob3o7bobobo10bo4bo4bo12b3o8b2o\$138bobo16bo7b2o
5b2o11bo3bo8b3o6bo6bo61bobo30b2o2b2o122b2o2b2o30bobo61bo6bo6b3o8bo3bo
11b2o5b2o7bo16bobo\$156b3o8bo3bo11b2o5b2o7bo7b2o48bo9b5ob2obobo30b2o
130b2o30bobob2ob5o9bo48b2o7bo7b2o5b2o11bo3bo8b3o\$155bob3o7bobobo10bo4b
o4bo19b3obo39bobo8bo3bobo2bob2o192b2obo2bobo3bo8bobo39bob3o19bo4bo4bo
10bobobo7b3obo\$154bo3bo9b3o10b3o2bobo3b2o17bob2o41bobo10bobobobo4bo
190bo4bobobobo10bobo41b2obo17b2o3bobo2b3o10b3o9bo3bo\$153bo3bo10bo13bo
4bo5bo17b2obo7bo16b3o13b2ob2o7bob3o3bobobobo188bobobobo3b3obo7b2ob2o
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obo2bob2o192b2obo2bobo3bo8bobo39bob3o19bo4bo4bo10bobobo7b3obo\$156b3o8b
o3bo11b2o5b2o7bo7b2o48bo9b5ob2obobo30b2o130b2o30bobob2ob5o9bo48b2o7bo
7b2o5b2o11bo3bo8b3o\$138bobo16bo7b2o5b2o11bo3bo8b3o6bo6bo61bobo30b2o2b
2o122b2o2b2o30bobo61bo6bo6b3o8bo3bo11b2o5b2o7bo16bobo\$139b2o8b3o12bo4b
o4bo10bobobo7b3obo6b3o58bo6b2o35bobo120bobo35b2o6bo58b3o6bob3o7bobobo
10bo4bo4bo12b3o8b2o\$139bo9bo13b2o3bobo2b3o10b3o9bo3bo7bo57bobo43bo2b2o
114b2o2bo43bobo57bo7bo3bo9b3o10b3o2bobo3b2o13bo9bo\$150bo12bo5bo4bo13bo
10bo3bo65bo212bo65bo3bo10bo13bo4bo5bo12bo\$162bo9b2o19b2o5bob3o45bo60b
2o2bo3bo112bo3bo2b2o60bo45b3obo5b2o19b2o9bo\$161b2o8bo21bobo5b3o47bo60b
o2bo4bo110bo4bo2bo60bo47b3o5bobo21bo8b2o\$161bo8b2o15b2o2b2o3bo5bo46b3o
57b3o5bobobo108bobobo5b3o57b3o46bo5bo3b2o2b2o15b2o8bo\$159b2o9bo17bobob
ob2ob2o110bo8bobobo106bobobo8bo110b2ob2obobobo17bo9b2o\$158bo4bo5bo12bo
5bo3bobobo122bo4bo102bo4bo122bobobo3bo5bo12bo5bo4bo\$157b3o2bobo3b2o13b
o5bob4obobobo119bo3bo102bo3bo119bobobob4obo5bo13b2o3bobo2b3o\$148bobo7b
o4bo4bo12b3o7bob2obo5b2o344b2o5bob2obo7b3o12bo4bo4bo7bobo\$149b2o8b2o5b
2o7bo15bo4b4ob3o9bo107b2o106b2o107bo9b3ob4o4bo15bo7b2o5b2o8b2o\$149bo
11bo3bo8b3o15bo2bo5b3o7b3o3b2o314b2o3b3o7b3o5bo2bo15b3o8bo3bo11bo\$161b
obobo7b3obo15bo2b5o9bo6bo316bo6bo9b5o2bo15bob3o7bobobo\$162b3o9bo3bo15b
2o4bo10b5obo6b2o2b2o30bo230bo30b2o2b2o6bob5o10bo4b2o15bo3bo9b3o\$164bo
10bo3bo16b3obo10bo4bo7b2o2b2o31bo228bo31b2o2b2o7bo4bo10bob3o16bo3bo10b
o\$176bob3o15bo2bobob3o7b3o43b3o228b3o43b3o7b3obobo2bo15b3obo\$152b3o8bo
7b2o4b3o19bob2o4bo2b2o3b4o3b10o288b10o3b4o3b2o2bo4b2obo19b3o4b2o7bo8b
3o\$152bo18bo6bo13bo7b2ob2o2bo2b2obo2b7o4bo4bo286bo4bo4b7o2bob2o2bo2b2o
b2o7bo13bo6bo18bo\$153bo7bob3o6b3o18bo12bo2bo3bo3bo5b3o3bobobo284bobobo
3b3o5bo3bo3bo2bo12bo18b3o6b3obo7bo\$144b2o17b2obo7bo16b3o13b2ob2o7bob3o
3bobobobo284bobobobo3b3obo7b2ob2o13b3o16bo7bob2o17b2o\$148bo14bob2o41bo
bo10bobobobo4bo286bo4bobobobo10bobo41b2obo14bo\$143b2o2bobo14b3obo39bob
o8bo3bobo2bob2o288b2obo2bobo3bo8bobo39bob3o14bobo2b2o\$142bo2b3obobo57b
o9b5ob2obobo290bobob2ob5o9bo57bobob3o2bo\$143b6o2bo14bo61bobo39bo210bo
39bobo61bo14bo2b6o\$144b2ob2o72bo6b2o41bo208bo41b2o6bo72b2ob2o\$141bo2b
6o70bobo46b3o208b3o46bobo70b6o2bo\$141bobob3o2bo11b3o56bo308bo56b3o11bo
2b3obobo\$143bobo2b2o12bo15b3o21bo346bo21b3o15bo12b2o2bobo\$144bo18bo13b
o25bo344bo25bo13bo18bo\$147b2o28bo3bo19b3o344b3o19bo3bo28b2o\$177bo2bobo
8bo368bo8bobo2bo\$179bobo2bo4b3o368b3o4bo2bobo\$180bo3bo3bo374bo3bo3bo\$
184bo3b2o90bo190bo90b2o3bo\$181b3o97bo188bo97b3o\$186bo92b3o188b3o92bo\$
172b3o10bobo376bobo10b3o\$172bo13b2o2b2o20bo326bo20b2o2b2o13bo\$173bo16b
2o21bo324bo21b2o16bo\$211b3o5b2o5b2o296b2o5b2o5b3o\$219b2o5bo298bo5b2o\$
224bobo298bobo\$224b2o300b2o\$182bobo35b2o68bo170bo68b2o35bobo\$182b2o36b
obo68bo168bo68bobo36b2o\$183bo8b2o27bo67b3o168b3o67bo27b2o8bo\$192bobo
362bobo\$185b2o5bo20bo10b2o300b2o10bo20bo5b2o\$181b2o2b2o24b2o11b2obo
296bob2o11b2o24b2o2b2o\$180bobo29b2o14bo294bo14b2o29bobo\$181bo43bo300bo
43bo\$177bo48bob2o292b2obo48bo\$183b2o43b2o292b2o43b2o\$175b3obo3bo116bo
150bo116bo3bob3o\$174bob2o6b3o114bo148bo114b3o6b2obo\$174b2obo8bo15b2o
95b3o148b3o95b2o15bo8bob2o\$172bob3o25bo3bo338bo3bo25b3obo\$202bo4bo336b
o4bo\$174bo29bo342bo29bo\$205bo2bo334bo2bo\$207b2o334b2o\$202b3o342b3o\$
203b2o342b2o\$204b2o104bo130bo104b2o\$198b3o4b2o104bo128bo104b2o4b3o\$
198b3o4bo103b3o128b3o103bo4b3o\$198b3o5b3o334b3o5b3o\$195b3o10bo334bo10b
3o\$195b3o356b3o\$195b3o356b3o4\$320bo110bo\$321bo108bo\$319b3o108b3o8\$330b
o90bo\$331bo88bo\$329b3o88b3o8\$340bo70bo\$341bo68bo\$339b3o68b3o2\$408b2o\$
409bo\$406b3o\$406bo!``````
It could probably be reduced in size. It might be worthwhile to reduce the size of the period-5 sparker first (so that adjacent glider streams can be released).
-Matthias Merzenich

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### Re: Incomplete search patterns - try to complete

Here's a list of specific incomplete patterns from an old (2008) open-problems list:
• - p7 mono sparker that can perform the TL push demonstrated here:
EDIT: done -- see below.

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``````x = 19, y = 14, rule = B3/S23
bboo3boo\$bobbobobbo\$bobooboobo\$oobbobobboo\$bbobobobobbo\$bbooboobob3o4b
oo\$oo10bo3b3o\$boboobobo3bo4boo\$bobbo7bo\$bbo3bobo3bo\$3b3obooboo\$5bo4bo\$
6b3obo\$8boo!``````
- A p36 (16+20) traffic light hassler oscillator. (Replace the figure-8s
in this pattern with something whose period is a factor of 36:
EDIT: done -- see below.

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``````x = 32, y = 35, rule = B3/S23
17boo5boo\$4boo11boo5boboboo\$26bobobo\$bbo3bo8b4o3b5obobo\$bbo4bo7bo3bobo
bo3booboo\$4bobobo8bobobo3bo5bo\$5bobobo6bobboo4b3ob3o\$6bo4bo4b3o7boobo\$
7bo3bo\$bbobo\$5bobboo\$bobbo\$obobo5bo\$obbo5bobo\$boo5bo3bo9boo\$9bobo8bobb
o\$10bo9b3o\$\$10bo9b3o\$9bobo8bobbo\$boo5bo3bo9boo\$obbo5bobo\$obobo5bo\$bobb
o\$5bobboo\$bbobo\$7bo3bo\$6bo4bo4b3o7boobo\$5bobobo6bobboo4b3ob3o\$4bobobo
8bobobo3bo5bo\$bbo4bo7bo3bobobo3booboo\$bbo3bo8b4o3b5obobo\$26bobobo\$4boo
11boo5boboboo\$17boo5boo!``````
- A p6 fencepost to complete this wickstretcher:
EDIT: done -- see below.

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``````x = 44, y = 44, rule = B3/S23
32bo7bo\$31boo5boobo\$31bobo3boobbo\$35boobbo\$33b5o\$25b3oboob3o\$20b3obbo
bboboboo\$20bo5b3oboo\$21bo\$17bo6boo\$16boo4bobo\$16bobo3b4o\$23bo\$19boo\$
19boo\$\$10boo9bo\$9boo9b3o\$11bo7bobo\$13boo3booboo\$6boo5boobbobboo\$6bobo
7b6o\$6bo3boo5bobo3b3o\$11boo9b3o\$9b3o10b3o\$5boobbobo10bo3b3o\$5bobo17b3o
\$5bobo17b3o\$6boo17bo3b3o\$5bo22b3o\$5b3o20b3o\$boo4bo20bo3b3o\$oo3boo24b3o
\$bbob3o24b3o\$4boo25bo3b3o\$3boo29b3o\$3boo29b3o\$bbobo29bo3b3o\$boo34b3o\$b
obo33b3o\$o36bo3b3o\$boo37b3o\$40b3o\$40bo!``````
- A c/5 orthogonal "spaceship" to complete this wavestretcher. (c/6 diagonal would also work.)
EDIT: done -- see below.

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``````x = 90, y = 42, rule = B3/S23
32bo\$31boo\$31bobo\$\$26boo5b3o\$25boobboob5obooboo\$27bobbob3o3boo3booboo\$
29b3obbo8boo3booboo\$28bo5bo6boo5boo3booboo\$22boo9bo3bo8boo5boo3booboo\$
22bobo3boobbo3bo14boo5boo3booboo\$22bo4boobo25boo5boo3booboo\$25bobb3ob
oobo25boo5boo3booboo\$14boo9boob3o35boo5boo3booboo\$14bobo3bo4bobo43boo
5boo3booboo\$14bo3b3oboo3boo47boo5boo3boo\$17boo8boo52boo5boo\$20b3o4bo
58boo\$18bo3b3o\$17bo6bo\$17bobboboo\$16boobo\$16bobo\$15b4o\$14bo3boo\$13boo
3boo\$13boboobo\$13b4obo\$11boob3obo\$11bobo\$10bo\$9boobbo\$8boo3bo\$7boobbo\$
8bobboo\$8bobbo\$\$3o\$o9bo\$bobb6o\$3bo\$4boo!``````
- More investigation of possible (23,5)c/79 spaceship based on:

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``````x = 59, y = 98, rule = B3/S23
58bo\$56boo\$57boo41\$32bo\$32bobo\$32boo15\$18bo\$16booboo\$16booboo\$17bob3o\$
16b3o4\$17boo\$17boo\$\$16bo\$15bobooboo\$14boo4boo\$14booboo\$16bo8\$23bo\$24bo
\$22b3o10\$bbo\$oo\$boo!``````
- 2c/5 terminations for this wave:
EDIT: One side completed -- see below.

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``````x = 44, y = 20, rule = B3/S23
oo\$bboo\$bbooboo\$oo5boo\$7booboo\$5boo5boo\$12booboo\$10boo5boo\$17booboo\$
15boo5boo\$22booboo\$20boo5boo\$27booboo\$25boo5boo\$32booboo\$30boo5boo\$37b
ooboo\$35boo5boo\$42boo\$40boo!``````
- An extensible stabilisation for this p2 agar:

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``````x = 43, y = 43, rule = S23/B3
19booboo\$13boo5bobobboo\$14bo3bo4bobobbo\$14bob3oboobo3boo\$15bo5bobbo\$
17b3oboobbo\$16boobbobo8boo\$10bo4bo3bo5boo3bobbo\$9bobo3bo5boo7boobo\$7b
3obo5boo7b3obobboo\$6bo6boo7boo4bobbo3bo\$6bobobo7boo5bo3bo3boo\$7b3o4boo
5bo3bo\$11bo5bo3bo5boo3bo8bo\$bboo5boobbo3bo5boo5bobo6b3o\$3bo5bo3bo5boo
5bo3bo3boobbo\$bo5bobo5boo5bo3bo9bobbo\$boobbobo3boo5bo3bo5boo3bobboobo\$
4bo9bo3bo5boo5bobo3boboo\$oboo6bo3bo5boo5bo3bo3bobo4bo\$oo3boobobo5boo5b
o3bo8bobboboo\$3b3obbo3boo5bo3bo5boo3bobb3o\$oobobbo8bo3bo5boo5boboboo3b
oo\$o4bobo3bo3bo5boo5bo3bo6boobo\$bboobo3bobo5boo5bo3bo9bo\$3boboobbo3boo
5bo3bo5boo3bobobboo\$3bobbo9bo3bo5boo5bobo5bo\$4bobboo3bo3bo5boo5bo3bo5b
o\$b3o6bobo5boo5bo3bobboo5boo\$bo8bo3boo5bo3bo5bo\$17bo3bo5boo4b3o\$8boo3b
o3bo5boo7bobobo\$7bo3bobbo4boo7boo6bo\$8boobbob3o7boo5bob3o\$9boboo7boo5b
o3bobo\$9bobbo3boo5bo3bo4bo\$10boo8bobobboo\$17bobboob3o\$18bobbo5bo\$14boo
3boboob3obo\$14bobbobo4bo3bo\$16boobbobo5boo\$19booboo!``````
- A caterpillar-like c/3 orthogonal spaceship including the following p69 reaction (this ship would be much easier than other caterpillar variants because we have well-developed c/3 technology):

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``````x = 9, y = 14, rule = S23/B3
7boo\$7boo10\$bbo\$b3o\$oobbo!``````

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### Re: Incomplete search patterns - try to complete

- A c/5 orthogonal "spaceship" to complete this wavestretcher. (c/6 diagonal would also work.)
c/5 part by Matthias Merzenich, 15 Apr 2011:

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``````x = 103, y = 75, rule = B3/S23
70bo\$68b2ob2o\$67b3o\$64b2o3bo\$64bo3bo2\$60bo3b3o\$59bobo\$58bo2bo\$60b2o\$
57bo2bo4bo\$58b3o2bobo\$63b3o\$58bob4o\$57bo\$58bo\$55bo2bobo\$55b2o\$51b2o4bo
\$50b3obobo\$50bo\$52b2o\$52b2o2\$49b3o\$51bo\$48bo3bo\$48bo4bo\$48bo29b2o5b2o
5b2o5b2o\$48b5o23bo3bo3bo2bo3bo2bo3bo3bo\$76bo3bobob3o5b3obobo3bo\$76bo5b
2o2b3ob3o2b2o5bo\$46b2o21b2o5b2ob3o15b3ob2o\$40bobo3bobo20bobo4bo25bo\$
31b2o6b2o2b2o2bo21bobo5bo3bo15bo3bo\$30b2o10bobo24bo3b2o3bo2bo15bo2bo\$
31bobo9bobo5bo7bob4obo6b2o\$26bo4b3o9b2o4b4o4bob3obobobo6bo\$25b5ob3o2bo
bob2o2b3ob2o3b4o12bo\$25bo2b2o6bo4bo2bo2bo3bo2b2o5bobo3bob2o\$35bo3bo4bo
3b4obo3bo4b7o\$27b2o2b2ob2o2bo10b2ob2o4bo4bo\$35bo28bo\$21b3o3bo5b2o18bo\$
21bo5bo2bob2o17b2o\$22bo3b2obo\$25b2o3bobo\$13b3o10bo\$13bo5b3o2b2o\$14bo2b
2ob3ob2o\$16bo10bo\$17bobob2o4bo\$19b2obo\$17b2o3bobo\$16b2o\$18bo\$15b2o\$14b
3o\$13b2obo\$12b4obo\$17b3o\$18b2o\$10b3ob2o\$9bo3b3o\$12b3o\$8bobobo\$7b4o\$7bo
\$8b2o\$9bo2bo\$2o\$obo3b3o\$o3bo4bo\$3b2o\$3bo5bo!
``````
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### Re: Incomplete search patterns - try to complete

skomick wrote:c/5 part by Matthias Merzenich, 15 Apr 2011
I also found this alternate c/5 part two days later:

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``````x = 112, y = 50, rule = B3/S23
51b2o5b2o5b2o5b2o\$49bo3bo3bo2bo3bo2bo3bo3bo\$49bo3bobob3o5b3obobo3bo\$
49bo5b2o2b3ob3o2b2o5bo\$49b2ob3o15b3ob2o\$49bo25bo\$50bo3bo15bo3bo\$46b2o
3bo2bo15bo2bo\$40bobo3bobo\$31b2o6b2o2b2o2bo\$30b2o10bobo31bo10bo3b3o5b3o
3bo\$31bobo9bobo5bo7bob4obo8bo2bo5b2ob5ob2o3b2ob5ob2o\$26bo4b3o9b2o4b4o
4bob3obobobo2b2o3bo2bo3bob2obo5bobobobo5bob2obo\$25b5ob3o2bobob2o2b3ob
2o3b4o12bobo2bo4bobo3bobo3b5ob5o3bobo3bo\$25bo2b2o6bo4bo2bo2bo3bo2b2o5b
obo3bob2o3bo4bo5b3o5b2o3b2o5b3o\$35bo3bo4bo3b4obo3bo4b7o10bo2bo2bob3o
13b3obo2bo\$27b2o2b2ob2o2bo10b2ob2o4bo4bo9b2obobo5bo23bo\$35bo28bo8bo\$
21b3o3bo5b2o18bo\$21bo5bo2bob2o17b2o\$22bo3b2obo\$25b2o3bobo\$13b3o10bo\$
13bo5b3o2b2o\$14bo2b2ob3ob2o\$16bo10bo\$17bobob2o4bo\$19b2obo\$17b2o3bobo\$
16b2o\$18bo\$15b2o\$14b3o\$13b2obo\$12b4obo\$17b3o\$18b2o\$10b3ob2o\$9bo3b3o\$
12b3o\$8bobobo\$7b4o\$7bo\$8b2o\$9bo2bo\$2o\$obo3b3o\$o3bo4bo\$3b2o\$3bo5bo!``````
dvgrn wrote:A p6 fencepost to complete this wickstretcher
By Jason Summers and me, January 2013:

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``````x = 61, y = 61, rule = B3/S23
38b2o\$37b2o\$39bo\$41b2o\$40bo\$32b2o\$32bo2b2o2bo2bo\$32bob3o2bo\$33bo4bo2bo
\$27bo5bo6bo\$26b2o5bo2bo\$26bobo\$33bo\$23bo5bob3obo\$22b2o4b2o3bo23b2o\$22b
obo2b2o2bobobo5b4o11b4o\$26bo6bobo4bo4bo9bo2bobo\$25b2ob2o10bo3bobo7bobo
2b2o\$26bo14bo3bobo5bobo\$47bo4b2o\$26bo20bo4b3o\$24b2o18bo2bo5bobo\$14b2o
7bobo19b2o7b2o\$13b2o7bo27bo\$15bo5bo2b2obo21b3o\$17bo3b2obo3bo20b3o\$10b
2o4b3obo28b3o\$9b2o4bo8bo2b2obo10b2o6b3o\$11bo2b2obo7bobo3bo8b4o6bo\$13b
2o2bo21bobo2bo\$27bo2b2obo5b2o2bobo\$13bobo12bobo3bo9bobo2b2o\$5b3o5bo32b
2o2b2o\$5bo2b3ob5o13bo2b2obo8b3ob3o\$7bo23bobo3bo6bobo2b3o\$6b2o5bob2o27b
2o3b3o\$6b2o2bo22bo2b2obo10bo\$bo32bobo3bo\$2o6bo\$obo3b2o21b2o5bo2b2obo\$
4bo4bo6b2o10bobo6bobo3bo3b5o\$3bo4bo6bo2bo8b3o\$3bo2bo8bo11b2o10bo2b2ob
2ob2o\$15bo12bobo9bobo5bo\$15bobo3bo7bobo2b2o10bo\$16bobo3bo7bo2bobo6bo2b
o\$17bo4bo8b4o7bobo\$18b4o10b2o6bo\$40bob2o\$24b4o3bob3o4bobo\$23b6o2b6o3bo
\$24b4o4b4o4bo\$19b2o\$18b4o\$17bo2bobo\$16bobo2b2o\$15bobo\$14b2o\$14b3o\$15bo
bo\$16b2o!``````
dvgrn wrote:2c/5 terminations for this wave
One side of the waveguide by Nicolay Beluchenko, November 2008

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``````x = 64, y = 59, rule = B3/S23
26bo\$18bo5b2ob2o\$17b3o4b2o2bob2o\$16bo5b2ob2o5b2o\$16b3o3bob2o6b2ob2o\$
18b2o2bo7b2o5b2o\$9bo13b3o11b2ob2o\$8b3o4b5o5b2o8b2o5b2o\$8bo3b2ob4o3bo4b
o14b2ob2o\$5b5o4bo7bo4bo12b2o5b2o\$3b2ob4o2bo2b2o8b3o19b2ob2o\$6bo2b3o13b
2o18b2o5b2o\$7bo4bo39b2ob2o\$9b6o11b2o22b2o5b2o\$4bob3o6bo41b2ob2o\$11bo3b
2o38b2o5b2o\$4bobo4bo3bo46b2o\$3b3o4bo4bo44b2o\$3bo6b6o\$10bo4bo\$10bob2o\$
11b2o\$4bo6b3o\$3b3o2b3o\$2b2o2b2o6b2o\$3bo2bo3b3ob3o\$3bo7bo2b3o\$3bo6b2o2b
2o\$4b2o\$10b2o\$10b3o\$7b2o3b2o\$6bob2o4bo\$6b4ob2o2bo\$8b3o4bo\$6bobob4ob2o\$
6bo8b2o\$6bobob2ob3o\$6bo3bo2bo\$5b2obob2o\$5b2o3bo\$7bob2o\$7bo2\$5b2o\$4b2o\$
7bo\$2b6ob3o\$2o5bo4bo\$3o4b2obobo\$2o2bob3obo\$2bob3o\$2b2ob3o2bo\$bob2o2bob
o2\$6b2o\$5b5o\$5b2o2bo\$8bo!``````
-Matthias Merzenich

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### Re: Incomplete search patterns - try to complete

dvgrn wrote: - A p36 (16+20) traffic light hassler oscillator. (Replace the figure-8s
in this pattern with something whose period is a factor of 36:
Here you are. I think it has a lot of improvement potential, though:

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``````x = 75, y = 43, rule = B3/S23
32b2o7b2o\$32bobo5bobo\$27b2ob2o2bo5bo2b2ob2o\$28bobo3b2o3b2o3bobo\$28bo2b
3o2bobo2b3o2bo\$26b2obobob2obobob2obobob2o\$27bobobo3bo3bo3bobobo\$26bo2b
o4bo5bo4bo2bo\$26bobob3o9b3obobo\$27b2o4b2o5b2o4b2o\$29b2obo9bob2o\$10b2o
4b2o7b6o13b6o7b2o4b2o\$10bobo4bo3b2obo25bob2o3bo4bobo\$6b2o4bo3bo3bobobo
bo5b2o7b2o5bobobobo3bo3bo4b2o\$6bobo2bob2o2b4o2bobobo4b2o7b2o4bobobo2b
4o2b2obo2bobo\$3bo4b4obob2o4bobo2b2obobo11bobob2o2bobo4b2obob4o4bo\$3b5o
10b4ob2o2b2obo13bob2o2b2ob4o10b5o\$8bo2b2obob3obo3bo2bo2bo13bo2bo2bo3bo
b3obob2o2bo\$3b2o2bo2bobobo4bo4bo2bo19bo2bo4bo4bobobo2bo2b2o\$3bo2bo7bo
2b2o8bo2bo3bo5bo3bo2bo8b2o2bo7bo2bo\$8bobo2b2o3bo3bo2bobo2bo2bobo3bobo
2bo2bobo2bo3bo3b2o2bobo\$4bob2obo4b2o2bo3b2obob2o3bo3bobo3bo3b2obob2o3b
o2b2o4bob2obo\$2o2bo8b2o2b5o11bobo3bobo11b5o2b2o8bo2b2o\$bo3b2o7bo3bobo
13bo5bo13bobo3bo7b2o3bo\$bobobo3b2obobob2o39b2obobob2o3bobobo\$2b2o2bo2b
ob2obobo41bobob2obo2bo2b2o\$5b2o7bobo3b2ob2o25b2ob2o3bobo7b2o\$14b2o4b2o
bo2b2o19b2o2bob2o4b2o\$23bobobo19bobobo\$23bo3bo19bo3bo\$24b3o21b3o\$26bo
8b2ob2o8bo\$24b2o10bobo10b2o\$23bo10bobobobo10bo\$23b2o9b2o3b2o9b2o\$20b2o
bo27bob2o\$20bo2bob2o21b2obo2bo\$21b3o2b2o19b2o2b3o\$24bob2o19b2obo\$21b4o
25b4o\$21bo4b2o19b2o4bo\$22b3obo21bob3o\$24b3o21b3o!
``````

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### Re: Incomplete search patterns - try to complete

The T-nosed p4 gives a little more room to work in some cases:

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``````x = 75, y = 36, rule = B3/S23
32b2o7b2o\$32bobo5bobo\$27b2ob2o2bo5bo2b2ob2o\$28bobo3b2o3b2o3bobo\$28bo2b
3o2bobo2b3o2bo\$26b2obobob2obobob2obobob2o\$27bobobo3bo3bo3bobobo\$26bo2b
o4bo5bo4bo2bo\$26bobob3o9b3obobo\$27b2o4b2o5b2o4b2o\$29b2obo9bob2o\$10b2o
4b2o7b6o13b6o7b2o4b2o\$10bobo4bo3b2obo25bob2o3bo4bobo\$6b2o4bo3bo3bobobo
bo5b2o7b2o5bobobobo3bo3bo4b2o\$6bobo2bob2o2b4o2bobobo4b2o7b2o4bobobo2b
4o2b2obo2bobo\$3bo4b4obob2o4bobo2b2obobo11bobob2o2bobo4b2obob4o4bo\$3b5o
10b4ob2o2b2obo13bob2o2b2ob4o10b5o\$8bo2b2obob3obo3bo2bo2bo13bo2bo2bo3bo
b3obob2o2bo\$3b2o2bo2bobobo4bo4bo2bo19bo2bo4bo4bobobo2bo2b2o\$3bo2bo7bo
2b2o8bo2bo3bo5bo3bo2bo8b2o2bo7bo2bo\$8bobo2b2o3bo3bo2bobo2bo2bobo3bobo
2bo2bobo2bo3bo3b2o2bobo\$4bob2obo4b2o2bo3b2obob2o3bo3bobo3bo3b2obob2o3b
o2b2o4bob2obo\$2o2bo8b2o2b5o11bobo3bobo11b5o2b2o8bo2b2o\$bo3b2o7bo3bobo
13bo5bo13bobo3bo7b2o3bo\$bobobo3b2obobob2o39b2obobob2o3bobobo\$2b2o2bo2b
ob2obobo9bo21bo9bobob2obo2bo2b2o\$5b2o7bobo8b3o19b3o8bobo7b2o\$14b2o9b3o
19b3o9b2o\$25bobo19bobo\$25b3o19b3o\$24b5o17b5o\$23bo5bo5b2ob2o5bo5bo\$23bo
5bo6bobo6bo5bo\$22b2obobob2o3bobobobo3b2obobob2o\$21bo2b2ob2o2bo2b2o3b2o
2bo2b2ob2o2bo\$21b2o7b2o11b2o7b2o!``````
-Matthias Merzenich

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### Re: Incomplete search patterns - try to complete

dvgrn wrote: - p7 mono sparker that can perform the TL push demonstrated here:

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``````x = 19, y = 14, rule = B3/S23
bboo3boo\$bobbobobbo\$bobooboobo\$oobbobobboo\$bbobobobobbo\$bbooboobob3o4b
oo\$oo10bo3b3o\$boboobobo3bo4boo\$bobbo7bo\$bbo3bobo3bo\$3b3obooboo\$5bo4bo\$
6b3obo\$8boo!``````
Here. I guess it counts as a new p14 oscillator?

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``````x = 65, y = 19, rule = B3/S23
21b2o19b2o\$12b2o7bo21bo7b2o\$3bobo4bo2bo2b2o5bo17bo5b2o2bo2bo4bobo\$3b2o
bo3b2obobobo4b2o17b2o4bobobob2o3bob2o\$6bo6bobo33bobo6bo\$b4ob2o2b2obob
2o3bo23bo3b2obob2o2b2ob4o\$o3bo4bobobo4b2obo2bob2o9b2obo2bob2o4bobobo4b
o3bo\$obo2bob3obo2bo2bobo4bobo11bobo4bobo2bo2bob3obo2bobo\$b3obo5b3ob3ob
obob2obo11bob2obobob3ob3o5bob3o\$11bo2b2o3bo3bob2o4b2o5b2obo3bo3b2o2bo\$
b3obo5b3ob3obobob2obo3b3o5bob2obobob3ob3o5bob3o\$obo2bob3obo2bo2bobo4bo
bo4b2o5bobo4bobo2bo2bob3obo2bobo\$o3bo4bobobo4b2obo2bob2o9b2obo2bob2o4b
obobo4bo3bo\$b4ob2o2b2obob2o3bo23bo3b2obob2o2b2ob4o\$6bo6bobo33bobo6bo\$
3b2obo3b2obobobo4b2o17b2o4bobobob2o3bob2o\$3bobo4bo2bo2b2o5bo17bo5b2o2b
o2bo4bobo\$12b2o7bo21bo7b2o\$21b2o19b2o!
``````

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### Re: Incomplete search patterns - try to complete

Kasuha wrote:I guess it counts as a new p14 oscillator?
Very nice! It can be extended in the obvious way:

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``````x = 100, y = 19, rule = B3/S23
21b2o54b2o\$12b2o7bo56bo7b2o\$3bobo4bo2bo2b2o5bo52bo5b2o2bo2bo4bobo\$3b2o
bo3b2obobobo4b2o11b2o5b2o5b2o5b2o5b2o11b2o4bobobob2o3bob2o\$6bo6bob2o5b
o12b2o5b2o5b2o5b2o5b2o12bo5b2obo6bo\$b4ob2o2b2obobo5b2o54b2o5bobob2o2b
2ob4o\$o3bo4bobobo5bob4ob2o4bo6bo6bo6bo6bo6bo4b2ob4obo5bobobo4bo3bo\$obo
bob4obob2o3b2o4bobo4bo8bo4bo8bo4bo8bo4bobo4b2o3b2obob4obobobo\$b2o9b2o
2b2obob2o3bo4bo8bo4bo8bo4bo8bo4bo3b2obob2o2b2o9b2o\$6b2ob2o4bo4bo3b2o5b
o8bo4bo8bo4bo8bo5b2o3bo4bo4b2ob2o\$b2o9b2o2b2obob2o3bo5bo6bo6bo6bo6bo6b
o5bo3b2obob2o2b2o9b2o\$obobob4obob2o3b2o4bobo46bobo4b2o3b2obob4obobobo\$
o3bo4bobobo5bob4ob2o7b2o5b2o5b2o5b2o5b2o7b2ob4obo5bobobo4bo3bo\$b4ob2o
2b2obobo5b2o12b2o5b2o5b2o5b2o5b2o12b2o5bobob2o2b2ob4o\$6bo6bob2o5bo54bo
5b2obo6bo\$3b2obo3b2obobobo4b2o52b2o4bobobob2o3bob2o\$3bobo4bo2bo2b2o5bo
52bo5b2o2bo2bo4bobo\$12b2o7bo56bo7b2o\$21b2o54b2o!``````
-Matthias Merzenich

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### Re: Incomplete search patterns - try to complete

dvgrn wrote:More investigation of possible (23,5)c/79 spaceship
A caterpillar-like spaceship based on this reaction seems quite plausible. I wonder, if anyone has got a copy of the script and the collision table that were used by Gabriel Nivasch & Co. for building the burning helix for the caterpillar. Another problem is track multiplication.
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### Re: Incomplete search patterns - try to complete

I built a naive 5/4 track multiplication as a proof of concept. One could probably find something more effective.

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``````x = 258, y = 379, rule = B3/S23
249bobo\$206bo42b2o\$204b2o44bo\$205b2o4\$219bobo\$219b2o\$220bo15\$257bo\$
255b2o\$256b2o16\$225bo\$224bo\$180bo43b3o\$180bobo\$180b2o3\$195bo\$194bo\$
194b3o16\$231bo\$231bobo\$231b2o16\$201bo\$199b2o\$155bobo42b2o\$155b2o\$156bo
3\$171bo\$169b2o\$170b2o16\$206bobo\$206b2o\$207bo16\$175bo\$131bo43bobo\$130bo
44b2o\$130b3o4\$145bo\$145bobo\$145b2o15\$182bo\$181bo\$181b3o17\$150bobo\$107b
o42b2o\$105b2o44bo\$106b2o4\$120bobo\$120b2o\$121bo15\$158bo\$156b2o\$157b2o
16\$126bo\$125bo\$81bo43b3o\$81bobo\$81b2o3\$96bo\$95bo\$95b3o16\$132bo\$132bobo
\$132b2o16\$102bo\$100b2o\$56bobo42b2o\$56b2o\$57bo3\$72bo\$70b2o\$71b2o\$45bobo
\$45bo2bo\$44bo3b2o\$44bo2\$44bo2b3o\$44b2o\$46b3o\$46b3o7\$107bobo\$107b2o\$
108bo15\$54bo\$55b2o19bo\$54b2o20bobo\$76b2o5\$46bo\$46bobo\$46b2o\$64b3o\$25bo
41bo\$25bobo36bo2bo\$25b2o38b2o\$40bo24b2o\$40b2o22bo2bo\$42bo21bo\$40b2o24b
2o\$39bobo\$40bo\$38bobo\$36bo\$36bobo2\$83bo\$82bo\$80b2ob2o\$79b5o\$78b2o2bo\$
78bob4o\$78bo4bo\$78bo2b2o\$80b2o2\$60b2o14bo\$59bobo14bobo\$60bo15b2o11\$47b
o\$48bo\$46b3o3\$46bo\$44b2o\$obo42b2o\$2o\$bo\$55b2o\$54bobo\$16bo38bo\$14b2o\$
15b2o4\$89bo\$87bobo\$54b2o32b2o\$55b2o\$54bo\$69b2o\$68bobo\$70bo\$84bo\$84b2o\$
83bobo2\$51bobo\$51b2o\$52bo!
``````
EDIT: It seems feasible to me to use just 2 tracks instead of 4, having put Herschels from tracks 1-2 and 3-4 on the same track pairwise and probably using more Herschels in the middle to adjust the track period.

EDIT: I opened a follow-up topic.
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### Re: Incomplete search patterns - try to complete

Small glider duplicator needs a catalyst instead of a ship:

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``````x = 19, y = 15, rule = B3/S23
6bo10b2o\$7b2o8bo\$6b2o7bobo\$15b2o2\$2o\$2o2\$9b2o\$9b2o3\$10b2o\$10bobo\$11b2o
!
``````

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### Re: Incomplete search patterns - try to complete

Can Bellman find a stabilisation for this beautiful period-41 wick by Achim Flammenkamp?

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``````x = 397, y = 21, rule = B3/S23
6bo31bo31bo31bo31bo31bo31bo31bo31bo31bo31bo31bo31bo\$6bo31bo31bo31bo31b
o31bo31bo31bo31bo31bo31bo31bo31bo\$6bo31bo31bo31bo31bo31bo31bo31bo31bo
31bo31bo31bo31bo5\$2bo7bo23bo7bo23bo7bo23bo7bo23bo7bo23bo7bo23bo7bo23bo
7bo23bo7bo23bo7bo23bo7bo23bo7bo23bo7bo\$2ob2o3b2ob2o19b2ob2o3b2ob2o19b
2ob2o3b2ob2o19b2ob2o3b2ob2o19b2ob2o3b2ob2o19b2ob2o3b2ob2o19b2ob2o3b2ob
2o19b2ob2o3b2ob2o19b2ob2o3b2ob2o19b2ob2o3b2ob2o19b2ob2o3b2ob2o19b2ob2o
3b2ob2o19b2ob2o3b2ob2o\$2bo7bo23bo7bo23bo7bo23bo7bo23bo7bo23bo7bo23bo7b
o23bo7bo23bo7bo23bo7bo23bo7bo23bo7bo23bo7bo2\$2bo7bo23bo7bo23bo7bo23bo
7bo23bo7bo23bo7bo23bo7bo23bo7bo23bo7bo23bo7bo23bo7bo23bo7bo23bo7bo\$2ob
2o3b2ob2o19b2ob2o3b2ob2o19b2ob2o3b2ob2o19b2ob2o3b2ob2o19b2ob2o3b2ob2o
19b2ob2o3b2ob2o19b2ob2o3b2ob2o19b2ob2o3b2ob2o19b2ob2o3b2ob2o19b2ob2o3b
2ob2o19b2ob2o3b2ob2o19b2ob2o3b2ob2o19b2ob2o3b2ob2o\$2bo7bo23bo7bo23bo7b
o23bo7bo23bo7bo23bo7bo23bo7bo23bo7bo23bo7bo23bo7bo23bo7bo23bo7bo23bo7b
o5\$6bo31bo31bo31bo31bo31bo31bo31bo31bo31bo31bo31bo31bo\$6bo31bo31bo31bo
31bo31bo31bo31bo31bo31bo31bo31bo31bo\$6bo31bo31bo31bo31bo31bo31bo31bo
31bo31bo31bo31bo31bo!``````
That would leave just three unknown oscillator periods, namely 19, 23 and 38.
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### Re: Incomplete search patterns - try to complete

calcyman wrote:Can Bellman find a stabilisation for this beautiful period-41 wick by Achim Flammenkamp?
I have already tested out this wick and there's no solution! Please concentrate on glider syntheses instead.
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### Re: Incomplete search patterns - try to complete

Freywa wrote:I have already tested out this wick and there's no solution!
That's a bold statement. I doubt Bellman could prove this in a reasonable time. I imagine you had max-live and max-active parameters set, which will have excluded most of the search space from consideration; all you've proved is that there's no solution which is consistent with the constraints you placed on the search.

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### Re: Incomplete search patterns - try to complete

p41-critical.png (1.63 KiB) Viewed 80201 times
Here's an argument lending weight to the idea that the p41 wick (it's also in the Summers collection, by the way) has no stable stabilisation.

This wick operates via a suppression mechanism: for each unit in it, four cells that would normally become alive at generation 26 (relative to the phase Goucher posted) remain dead because of the adjacent units, and this keeps things going. I've highlighted this above at the critical moment. Now suppose there exists a stable catalyst that acts as a fencepost; because it prevents said cells from becoming alive and does not cause the birth of neighbouring cells that destroy the oscillator, it must have a certain configuration of cells two rows away from the above highlighted unit's left edge (call this E). But then over the next few generations, more patterns of cells turn up at E, and no configuration by itself can ensure the unit returns to its original "four pre-TLs" state. Thus the fencepost must be dynamic. Bellman can't find dynamic things, only still-life catalysts.
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### Re: Incomplete search patterns - try to complete

That proof can't work for fundamental reasons. In particular, your proof would theoretically generalise to a similar reaction, which operates at p1000041 instead of p41. However, it is trivial (by which I mean it can be done) to construct a set of bait still lifes, which (when impacted by the reaction) release gliders, which then pass through a complicated network of stable Herschel tracks to produce more gliders, which are aimed at the reaction and restore it.

And that arrangement of still lifes is a stable catalyst, conceptually no different from those found by Bellman (other than being orders of magnitude larger).
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### Re: Incomplete search patterns - try to complete

You don't have to make the reaction go exactly the same way, you only need to make it end up at the beginning of the cycle. For instance this sacrificial eater works for exactly one cycle so technically all we need is to replace the two blocks with something that will reappear at the place again:

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``````x = 121, y = 27, rule = B3/S23
118bo\$116b3o\$115bo\$6bo31bo31bo31bo12b2o\$6bo31bo31bo31bo\$6bo31bo31bo31b
o2\$119b2o\$119b2o2\$2bo7bo23bo7bo23bo7bo23bo7bo\$2ob2o3b2ob2o19b2ob2o3b2o
b2o19b2ob2o3b2ob2o19b2ob2o3b2ob2o\$2bo7bo23bo7bo23bo7bo23bo7bo2\$2bo7bo
23bo7bo23bo7bo23bo7bo\$2ob2o3b2ob2o19b2ob2o3b2ob2o19b2ob2o3b2ob2o19b2ob
2o3b2ob2o\$2bo7bo23bo7bo23bo7bo23bo7bo2\$119b2o\$119b2o2\$6bo31bo31bo31bo\$
6bo31bo31bo31bo\$6bo31bo31bo31bo12b2o\$115bo\$116b3o\$118bo!``````
But of course if the Bellman search was done exhaustively then there likely is no such thing.

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### Re: Incomplete search patterns - try to complete

That works, in fact. The Summers collection has a set of "supported oscillator" patterns which require some gliders to keep going. The p41 wick is in there, and I've been analysing how the interaction between oscillator core and glider happens. I am not saying that a catalyst does not exist at all, but rather that it would have to be fundamentally different from "normal" Bellman catalysts.

On a side note, I've also been investigating on how to use JavaLifeSearch to construct glider syntheses.
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### Re: Incomplete search patterns - try to complete

If you place an object like a tub slightly behind and directly inbetween the two blocks in Kashua's design, it becomes possible to turn the blocks into more permanent eater 1's or eater 2's, like so:

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``````x = 123, y = 27, rule = B3/S23
118bo\$116b3o\$115bo\$6bo31bo31bo31bo12b2o\$6bo31bo31bo31bo\$6bo31bo31bo31b
o18b2o\$121bo\$119bobo\$119b2o2\$2bo7bo23bo7bo23bo7bo23bo7bo\$2ob2o3b2ob2o
19b2ob2o3b2ob2o19b2ob2o3b2ob2o19b2ob2o3b2ob2o\$2bo7bo23bo7bo23bo7bo23bo
7bo14bo\$120bobo\$2bo7bo23bo7bo23bo7bo23bo7bo14bo\$2ob2o3b2ob2o19b2ob2o3b
2ob2o19b2ob2o3b2ob2o19b2ob2o3b2ob2o\$2bo7bo23bo7bo23bo7bo23bo7bo2\$119b
2o\$119bobo\$121bo\$6bo31bo31bo31bo18b2o\$6bo31bo31bo31bo\$6bo31bo31bo31bo
12b2o\$115bo\$116b3o\$118bo!``````
Alternately, replacing the blocks with hives results in a similar effect to using blocks, except that there is also some leftover reaction that may be able to be manipulated back into hives again:

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``````x = 128, y = 27, rule = B3/S23
118bo\$116b3o\$115bo\$6bo31bo31bo31bo12b2o\$6bo31bo31bo31bo\$6bo31bo31bo31b
o2\$120b2o\$119bo2bo\$120b2o\$2bo7bo23bo7bo23bo7bo23bo7bo19b2o\$2ob2o3b2ob
2o19b2ob2o3b2ob2o19b2ob2o3b2ob2o19b2ob2o3b2ob2o17b2o\$2bo7bo23bo7bo23bo
7bo23bo7bo2\$2bo7bo23bo7bo23bo7bo23bo7bo\$2ob2o3b2ob2o19b2ob2o3b2ob2o19b
2ob2o3b2ob2o19b2ob2o3b2ob2o17b2o\$2bo7bo23bo7bo23bo7bo23bo7bo19b2o\$120b
2o\$119bo2bo\$120b2o2\$6bo31bo31bo31bo\$6bo31bo31bo31bo\$6bo31bo31bo31bo12b
2o\$115bo\$116b3o\$118bo!``````
Here I added two blocks which quickly turn the reaction into gliders; without them it produces two blinkers. Maybe a Bellman search might find a catalyst to restore the hives?

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### Re: Incomplete search patterns - try to complete

Here's the Bellman input file I concocted for finding the p41. If anyone uses this and manages to find the fencepost, please credit me and Playle as contributors.

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``````#S first-encounter 4
#S last-encounter 34
#S repair-interval 31
#P 2 2
.............??????????????????
.............??????????????????
.............??????????????????
.............??????????????????
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.............??????????????????
........@..........????????????
.@.......@.....@@..????????????
.@...@@..@....@..@.????????????
@@....@....@@..@@..????????????
........@@..@......????????????
..@........@@......????????????
..@.@@@@@@@........????????????
...................????????????
..@.@@@@@@@........????????????
..@........@@......????????????
........@@..@......????????????
@@....@....@@..@@..????????????
.@...@@..@....@..@.????????????
.@.......@.....@@..????????????
........@..........????????????
.............??????????????????
.............??????????????????
.............??????????????????
.............??????????????????
.............??????????????????
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#F 35 15 8
......
..**..
.*..*.
..**..
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......
..**..
.*..*.
..**..
......``````
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