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Synthesis components

Post by A for awesome » July 22nd, 2019, 3:31 pm

I've been finding quite a few of these lately and, since there doesn't seem to be any existing "components for components' sake" thread, I thought I'd make one.

To start things off, here's a simple 3G tub to boat claw:

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x = 14, y = 15, rule = B3/S23
o$3o$3bo$2bobo$3bo2$12bo$11b2o$11bobo$b2o$obo$2bo$4b3o$4bo$5bo!
And a pair of related tub to eater (3G) and tub to twit (4G) components:

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x = 11, y = 9, rule = B3/S23
2bo$2b3o$5bo2b3o$4bobobo$5bo3bo2$b2o3bo$obo2b2o$2bo2bobo!

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x = 11, y = 14, rule = B3/S23
2bo$2b3o$5bo3b2o$4bobob2o$5bo4bo2$bo$b2o2b3o$obo2bo$6bo2$4b2o$3bobo$5b
o!
EDIT: 4G bookends to cis-shillelagh on dove:

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x = 48, y = 15, rule = B3/S23
3b2o33b2o$3bo2bo31bo2b2o$4b3o32b2obo2$4b3o32b3o$3bo2bo31bo2bo$3b2o32b
o2bo$7b2o29b2o3b2o$7bobo33b2o$2o5bo$b2o42b2o$o44bobo$5b2o38bo$4b2o$6b
o!
EDIT 2: 4G bookends to xs17_3lka96z321 should reduce a couple other 17-bitters as well, none of which currently take 17+ gliders:

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x = 16, y = 14, rule = B3/S23
2o$o2bo$b3o2$b3o$o2bo3bobo$2o5b2o6bo$8bo4b2o$5b2o7b2o$4bobo$6bo$9b2o$
9bobo$9bo!
x₁=ηx
V ⃰_η=c²√(Λη)
K=(Λu²)/2
Pₐ=1−1/(∫^∞_t₀(p(t)ˡ⁽ᵗ⁾)dt)

$$x_1=\eta x$$
$$V^*_\eta=c^2\sqrt{\Lambda\eta}$$
$$K=\frac{\Lambda u^2}2$$
$$P_a=1-\frac1{\int^\infty_{t_0}p(t)^{l(t)}dt}$$

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Re: Synthesis components

Post by Ian07 » July 25th, 2019, 7:29 pm

Snake to snake-bridge-snake reduced from 7G to 6G:

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x = 17, y = 20, rule = B3/S23
obo$b2o8b2obo$bo9bob2o2$4b2o$5b2o$4bo2$8bo$7b2o$7bobo3$2b2o10b3o$bobo
10bo$3bo11bo2$11b3o$11bo$12bo!
Found using synthesise-patt.py:

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x = 10, y = 11, rule = B3/S23
obo$b2o$bo2$4b2o$5b2o$4bo2$8bo$7b2o$7bobo!
EDIT: How would I go about automatically applying this to all the still lifes that use the old 7G component?

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Re: Synthesis components

Post by A for awesome » July 26th, 2019, 12:15 pm

3G table to (pseudo) long hook on trans-ship:

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x = 10, y = 17, rule = B3/S23
4b2o$4b2o2$4b4o$4bo2bo5$4b2o2b2o$3bobob2o$5bo3bo3$3o$2bo$bo!
3G table to long hook with tub:

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x = 10, y = 16, rule = B3/S23
5b2o$5b2o2$5b4o$5bo2bo5$4b2o$5b2ob2o$4bo2b2o$9bo$bo$b2o$obo!
Something similar is probably known, but a properly-placed domino spark at t=11 would allow a 6G table to long hook weld melusine:

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x = 8, y = 8, rule = B3/S23
4b2o$4b2o2$4b4o$3bo3bo$3bob2o$o$ob2ob2o!
Similarly with these two 3G table to long hook with beehive components, I doubt they reduce anything by themselves (except maybe by having higher clearance), but they allow a 5G table to long hook siamese eater head and a 6G table to long hook weld loop. (The two original components are mostly interchangeable aside from minor clearance differences.) [EDIT: the second and fourth below are actually known, although they were quite hard to find when I went looking.]

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x = 10, y = 17, rule = B3/S23
4b2o$4b2o2$4b4o$4bo2bo3$7b2o$7bobo$3b2o2bo$4b2o$3bo3$b2o$obo$2bo!

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x = 11, y = 16, rule = B3/S23
2o$2o2$4o$o2bo6$2o$b2o$o8bo$3b2o3b2o$3bobo2bobo$3bo!

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x = 18, y = 17, rule = B3/S23
12b2o$bo10b2o$2bo$3o9b4o$12bo2bo3$15b2o$15bobo$11b2o2bo$12b2o$3b2o6bo
$4b2o$3bo$9b2o$8bobo$10bo!

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x = 21, y = 19, rule = B3/S23
19bo$18bo$11bobo4b3o$2o9b2o$2o10bo2$4o$o2bo2$15b3o$15bo$16bo2$2o$b2o$
o8bo$3b2o3b2o$3bobo2bobo$3bo!
EDIT: 3 gliders remove a feather, if such ever proves necessary:

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x = 8, y = 16, rule = B3/S23
5b2o$5bo$6bo$5b2o$4bo$5bobo$6b2o$bo$b2o$obo$5b3o$5bo$6bo$2b3o$4bo$3bo
!
EDIT 2: A couple less useful snake with feather(quetzal? I know the name's already used for something else)-to-X converters:

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x = 12, y = 14, rule = B3/S23
4b2o$4bo$5bo$4b2o$3bo$4bobo$bo3b2o$b2o$obo3bo$6b2o$5bobo$9b2o$9bobo$9b
o!

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x = 54, y = 15, rule = B3/S23
5b2o39b2o$5bo40bo$6bo40bo$5b2o41bo$4bo7b2o33b2o$5bobo3b2o$6b2o5bo37b2o
$51b2o$2o5bo$b2o3b2o40bo$o5bobo38bobo$47bobo$48bo2b2o$51bobo$51bo!
EDIT 3: 3G snake to long^2 boat:

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x = 8, y = 12, rule = B3/S23
2o$o4b2o$bo2b2o$2o4bo2$2bo$2b2o$bobo2$5b2o$5bobo$5bo!
3G snake to long ship:

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x = 8, y = 10, rule = B3/S23
2o$o4b2o$bo3bobo$2o3bo3$b3o$3bob3o$2bo2bo$6bo!
x₁=ηx
V ⃰_η=c²√(Λη)
K=(Λu²)/2
Pₐ=1−1/(∫^∞_t₀(p(t)ˡ⁽ᵗ⁾)dt)

$$x_1=\eta x$$
$$V^*_\eta=c^2\sqrt{\Lambda\eta}$$
$$K=\frac{\Lambda u^2}2$$
$$P_a=1-\frac1{\int^\infty_{t_0}p(t)^{l(t)}dt}$$

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Re: Synthesis components

Post by wildmyron » July 27th, 2019, 10:32 am

Nice results - it looks like the '-z' option in collisrc.py to require a stator in the search result is working well.

Two converters I found mucking about with an 18-bit SL Goldtiger posted on the 17 in <17 thread. I don't really know how to name them and I haven't found them in the synthesis database.

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x = 14, y = 15, rule = B3/S23
o$b2o$2o$9bo$8bo$8b3o2$12b2o$13bo$10b3o$9bo$8bob3o$7bobo2bo$8bo2bo$9b
2o!

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x = 19, y = 15, rule = B3/S23
5bo$bo4b2o$2bo2b2o$3o11bo$13bo$13b3o2$17b2o$18bo$15b3o$14bo$13bob3o$
12bobo2bo$13bo2bo$14b2o!
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Re: Synthesis components

Post by A for awesome » July 28th, 2019, 8:41 am

A couple converters starting from a dead spark coil:
4G 2-sided house to R-mango (only helpful in situations where the normal 3-sided 2G house to bookend + 2G bookend to R-mango combination doesn't fit):

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x = 12, y = 20, rule = B3/S23
3b2ob2o$3bo3bo$4b3o2$4b3o$3bo3bo$3b2ob2o4$6b2o$7b2ob2o$2o4bo2b2o$b2o8b
o$o3$9b2o$9bobo$9bo!
Loaf converts a dead spark coil into a canoe plus a debris block; there is almost certainly a 3G solution along these lines, although I don't have the necessary tools to find it:

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x = 7, y = 12, rule = B3/S23
2ob2o$o3bo$b3o2$b3o$o3bo$2ob2o2$5bo$4bobo$3bo2bo$4b2o!
4G dead spark coil to shillelagh:

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x = 42, y = 17, rule = B3/S23
2ob2o31b2o$o3bo31bo2b2o$b3o33b2obo2$b3o4b3o$o3bo3bo$2ob2o4bo27b2o$37b
2o2$39b3o$5b3o31bo$5bo34bo$6bo2$3b3o$5bo$4bo!
EDIT: 3G carrier to trans-hook on R-bee:

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x = 12, y = 10, rule = B3/S23
3b2o$3bo$5bo$4b2o4$2o2b2o4bo$b2obobo2b2o$o3bo4bobo!
3G carrier to long ship:

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x = 7, y = 15, rule = B3/S23
b2o$bo$3bo$2b2o4$4b2o$4bobo$2o2bo$b2o$o$5bo$4b2o$4bobo!
5G carrier (or 4-5G anything that fits) to integral:

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x = 53, y = 13, rule = B3/S23
4b2o45b2o$4bo47bo$6bo3bo38b3o$5b2ob2o38bo$3o6b2o37b2o$2bo$bo9b3o$11bo
36b2o$b2o9bo35b2o$bobo$bo48b3o$50bo$51bo!
4G carrier to trans-boat with tail:

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x = 41, y = 17, rule = B3/S23
4b2o28b2o$4bo29bobo$6bo28bobo$5b2o30bo$37b2o4$4b2o$3b2o31bo$5bo29bobo
$b2o32bobo$obo33bo$2bo35b2o$5b2o31bobo$6b2o30bo$5bo!
x₁=ηx
V ⃰_η=c²√(Λη)
K=(Λu²)/2
Pₐ=1−1/(∫^∞_t₀(p(t)ˡ⁽ᵗ⁾)dt)

$$x_1=\eta x$$
$$V^*_\eta=c^2\sqrt{\Lambda\eta}$$
$$K=\frac{\Lambda u^2}2$$
$$P_a=1-\frac1{\int^\infty_{t_0}p(t)^{l(t)}dt}$$

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Re: Synthesis components

Post by Ian07 » July 29th, 2019, 2:58 pm

While trying to improve a step in the synthesis for Achim's p11 (table on table -> block on table) I found this component which unfortunately doesn't work for that purpose since it basically forms the block from the other side:

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x = 19, y = 16, rule = B3/S23
17bo$16bo$16b3o6$obo$b2o$bo$11bo2bo$11b4o2$11b4o$11bo2bo!

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Re: Synthesis components

Post by A for awesome » July 31st, 2019, 7:01 pm

3G bi-boat to twit:

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x = 11, y = 10, rule = B3/S23
5b2ob2o$4bobobobo$b2o2bo3bo$obo$2bo$8b2o$7bobo$3b2o4bo$4b2o$3bo!
Not strictly a component, since nothing can be directly attached to the bi-boat, but can be modified in at least one way to become one, here converting a bun supported by a snake-type edge to a prodigal attached by a bit in 6 or 7 gliders:

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x = 16, y = 15, rule = B3/S23
12b2o$13bo$12bo$12b2o$9b2obo2bo$5b2obobo3b2o$4bobobobo$b2o2bo3bo$obo$
2bo$8b2o$7bobo$3b2o4bo$4b2o$3bo!
Useful in only a very limited range of circumstances, but I doubt there's a cheaper way to do similar.

EDIT: Intuitive monodirectional 3G bi-boat to hat, possibly known:

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x = 11, y = 8, rule = B3/S23
3o2b2ob2o$2bobobobobo$bo3bo3bo3$2o6b2o$b2o6b2o$o7bo!
Again, it's not very useful by itself due to excessive obtrusiveness, but the same modification applies as before:

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x = 16, y = 13, rule = B3/S23
12b2o$13bo$12bo$12b2o$9b2obo2bo$3o2b2obobo3b2o$2bobobobobo$bo3bo3bo3$
2o6b2o$b2o6b2o$o7bo!
EDIT 2: 3G block to scorpion:

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x = 10, y = 8, rule = B3/S23
7bobo$7b2o$2o6bo$2o2$3b3o2b2o$5bob2o$4bo4bo!
x₁=ηx
V ⃰_η=c²√(Λη)
K=(Λu²)/2
Pₐ=1−1/(∫^∞_t₀(p(t)ˡ⁽ᵗ⁾)dt)

$$x_1=\eta x$$
$$V^*_\eta=c^2\sqrt{\Lambda\eta}$$
$$K=\frac{\Lambda u^2}2$$
$$P_a=1-\frac1{\int^\infty_{t_0}p(t)^{l(t)}dt}$$

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Re: Synthesis components

Post by testitemqlstudop » August 5th, 2019, 8:35 pm

Long integral weld boat component, found from SS:

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x = 32, y = 41, rule = B3/S23
19bo$18bobo$18b2o$16b2o$15bobo$16bo2$6b3o3$29bo$28bobo$28b2o$26b2o$18b
o6bobo$17bobo6bo$17bobo$18bo2$13b2o7b2o$2b2o8bo2bo5bo2bo$2b2o9b2o7b2o
2$18bo$6bo10bobo$5bobo9bobo$5bobo10bo$6bo2$b2o7b2o$o2bo5bo2bo$b2o7b2o
2$6bo$5bobo$5bobo$6bo2$29b3o$29bo$30bo!

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Re: Synthesis components

Post by BlinkerSpawn » August 6th, 2019, 8:51 am

testitemqlstudop wrote:Long integral weld boat component, found from SS:

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really big expensive reaction
In minimal form, for those who think they can make it happen:

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x = 12, y = 8, rule = B3/S23
10bo$9bobo$10bo$2bo$2o3bo$2bobo$5bobo$6bo!
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Re: Synthesis components

Post by Extrementhusiast » August 7th, 2019, 5:41 pm

testitemqlstudop wrote:Long integral weld boat component, found from SS:

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RLE
Eight gliders maximum:

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x = 25, y = 33, rule = B3/S23
19bo$18bobo$19bo$10bo$10bo$10bo2$22bo$21bo$21b3o3$19bo$18bo$18b3o$22b
3o$22bo$23bo13$2o$b2o$o!
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Re: Synthesis components

Post by Ian07 » August 7th, 2019, 6:32 pm

Extrementhusiast wrote: Eight gliders maximum:

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RLE
There's actually already a 6G component found from here:

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x = 89, y = 21, rule = B3/S23
49bo$39bo8bo$40bo7b3o$38b3o$46bo$47bo$45b3o2$9bo$8bo73b2o$8b3o70bobo$
81b2o$79b2o$78bobo$78bo$79bo3b2o$47bo29bobo3b2o$bo40bo4bo28bobo7b3o$ob
o6b2o30bobo3bo29bo8bo$bo7bobo30bo44bo$9bo!

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Re: Synthesis components

Post by A for awesome » August 8th, 2019, 4:52 pm

An alternative 4G block to snake:

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x = 11, y = 10, rule = B3/S23
3b2o$3b2o2$6bo$6b2o$5bobo$b2o$obo5b2o$2bo5bobo$8bo!
I don't know that it directly improves anything apart from maybe some repeat times, but the 3G block to snake+junk block is almost certainly useful for something, given how ubiquitous this type of conversion is.

Very weird 3G block to pseudo-cis-boat on long boat:

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x = 16, y = 12, rule = B3/S23
2o$bo$bob2o2bo$2bob4o2$6b2o$6b2o$b2o$obo6b2o$2bo7b2o2bo$9bo3b2o$13bob
o!
3G block to mango:

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x = 8, y = 15, rule = B3/S23
3b2o$3b2o3$3b2o$3bobo$3bo2$3o$2bo$bo2$5b3o$5bo$6bo!
More probably forthcoming in edits.

EDIT: 3G block to long ship:

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x = 12, y = 12, rule = B3/S23
2b2o$2b2o4$b2o6b2o$obo6bobo$2bo6bo2$7b2o$6bobo$8bo!
4G block to eater:

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x = 43, y = 11, rule = B3/S23
4b2o30b2o$4b2o29bobo3bo$35bo4bobo$34b2o4bobo$9b2o30bo$bo7bobo26b2o$b2o
6bo27bobo$obo36bo$7b2o$6bobo$8bo!
EDIT 2: 3G to add a tail to a boat the other way:

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x = 10, y = 11, rule = B3/S23
2b2o$2bobo$3bo2$7b2o$3o4bobo$2bo4bo$bo$3b3o$3bo$4bo!
Two-sided 3G boat to shillelagh:

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x = 9, y = 15, rule = B3/S23
2o$obo$bo3$3b2o$4b2o$3bo3b2o$6b2o$8bo3$3b3o$5bo$4bo!
EDIT 3: 3G boat to twit:

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x = 11, y = 12, rule = B3/S23
5b2o$5bobo$6bo2$b2o$obo5b2o$2bo5bobo$8bo2$6b2o$5bobo$7bo!
3G boat to block on table:

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x = 9, y = 10, rule = B3/S23
4b2o$4bobo$5bo$2o$b2o3b2o$o5bobo$6bo$3b2o$2bobo$4bo!
x₁=ηx
V ⃰_η=c²√(Λη)
K=(Λu²)/2
Pₐ=1−1/(∫^∞_t₀(p(t)ˡ⁽ᵗ⁾)dt)

$$x_1=\eta x$$
$$V^*_\eta=c^2\sqrt{\Lambda\eta}$$
$$K=\frac{\Lambda u^2}2$$
$$P_a=1-\frac1{\int^\infty_{t_0}p(t)^{l(t)}dt}$$

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Re: Synthesis components

Post by Gustone » August 12th, 2019, 1:32 pm

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x = 19, y = 15, rule = B3/S23
3b2obo$4b3o$5bo3$10bo$9bobob2o$10bo3bo2bo$11b2obobobo$12bobo2bo$11bo2b
o$2b2o8b2o$3bo$3o$o!
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x = 19, y = 2, rule = B3/S23
13o$12b7o!

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Re: Synthesis components

Post by A for awesome » August 12th, 2019, 2:17 pm

Gustone wrote:

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x = 19, y = 15, rule = B3/S23
3b2obo$4b3o$5bo3$10bo$9bobob2o$10bo3bo2bo$11b2obobobo$12bobo2bo$11bo2b
o$2b2o8b2o$3bo$3o$o!
2G:

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x = 16, y = 8, rule = B3/S23
2bo$3b2o2bo$2b2o2bobob2o$7bo3bo2bo$bo6b2obobobo$b2o6bobo2bo$obo5bo2bo
$9b2o!

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x = 16, y = 7, rule = B3/S23
7bo$2bo3bobob2o$obo4bo3bo2bo$b2o5b2obobobo$4b2o3bobo2bo$3bobo2bo2bo$5b
o3b2o!
x₁=ηx
V ⃰_η=c²√(Λη)
K=(Λu²)/2
Pₐ=1−1/(∫^∞_t₀(p(t)ˡ⁽ᵗ⁾)dt)

$$x_1=\eta x$$
$$V^*_\eta=c^2\sqrt{\Lambda\eta}$$
$$K=\frac{\Lambda u^2}2$$
$$P_a=1-\frac1{\int^\infty_{t_0}p(t)^{l(t)}dt}$$

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Re: Synthesis components

Post by Gustone » August 12th, 2019, 3:55 pm

A for awesome wrote:
Gustone wrote:

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x = 19, y = 15, rule = B3/S23
3b2obo$4b3o$5bo3$10bo$9bobob2o$10bo3bo2bo$11b2obobobo$12bobo2bo$11bo2b
o$2b2o8b2o$3bo$3o$o!
2G:

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x = 16, y = 8, rule = B3/S23
2bo$3b2o2bo$2b2o2bobob2o$7bo3bo2bo$bo6b2obobobo$b2o6bobo2bo$obo5bo2bo
$9b2o!

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x = 16, y = 7, rule = B3/S23
7bo$2bo3bobob2o$obo4bo3bo2bo$b2o5b2obobobo$4b2o3bobo2bo$3bobo2bo2bo$5b
o3b2o!
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x = 19, y = 2, rule = B3/S23
13o$12b7o!

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Re: Synthesis components

Post by A for awesome » August 12th, 2019, 5:36 pm

Can anyone complete this?

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x = 15, y = 16, rule = B3/S23
5bo$3b2o$4b2o2$2bo$obo4bob2o$b2o4b2obo2bo$10bobobo$10bo2bo$8bobo$5bo2b
2o$4b2o$5bo$3bobo$4bo$2bo!
I'm not sure how to generate a spark that works the same as the one on the lower left.

Applying a different combination of sparks, also ones I don't know how to construct, yields a larger almost-SL instead:

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x = 15, y = 16, rule = B3/S23
5bo$3b2o$4b2o2$2bo$obo4bob2o$b2o4b2obo2bo$10bobobo$10bo2bo$8bobo$5bo2b
2o$4b2o$5bo$5bo3b2o$4bo4bo$4bo2bobo!
x₁=ηx
V ⃰_η=c²√(Λη)
K=(Λu²)/2
Pₐ=1−1/(∫^∞_t₀(p(t)ˡ⁽ᵗ⁾)dt)

$$x_1=\eta x$$
$$V^*_\eta=c^2\sqrt{\Lambda\eta}$$
$$K=\frac{\Lambda u^2}2$$
$$P_a=1-\frac1{\int^\infty_{t_0}p(t)^{l(t)}dt}$$

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Re: Synthesis components

Post by 2718281828 » August 12th, 2019, 6:13 pm

2G+1G block to ship component, based on 2G+block on block collision:

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x = 10, y = 20, rule = LifeHistory
9.A$7.A.A$8.2A6$4.2D$2C.CAD$2C.2C7$7.2A$6.A.A$8.A!
Edit1:
Another one, based on a boat+2g collision:
3G boat to mango, it might help in situations as illustrated:

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x = 125, y = 89, rule = LifeHistory
$43.D$39.2C.2CD$39.2C.C.CD$5.2C6.2B6.2B20.C.D$5.C.C3.6B.6B20.D$6.C2.
16B28.A7.A$8.2D15B26.A.A5.2A$9.7BA7BA27.2A6.2A$10.4BABA5B2AB$10.5B2A
6B2A$11.13B$11.12B$12.11B$13.9B$14.8B$15.B.4B8$40.2A$39.A.A$41.A13$
115.A$9.A.2A16.A.2A.2A13.A.2A.2A13.A.2A.2A13.A.2A.2A13.A.2A.A.A$9.2A.
A2.2A12.2A.A.A.A12.2A.A.A.A12.2A.A.A.A12.2A.A.A.A12.2A.A.A2.A$14.2A
19.A19.A19.A.A17.A.A3.A.A11.A.A$16.A43.A15.A19.A4.2A13.A$58.2A42.A$
55.2A2.2A34.2A$55.A.A37.A.A$55.A39.A15$95.A$10.A.2A16.A.2A.2A13.A.2A.
2A32.A.2A.A.A$10.2A.A2.2A12.2A.A.A.A12.2A.A.A.A31.2A.A.A2.A$15.2A19.A
19.A38.A.A$17.A78.A$66.A7.A$64.A.A5.2A$65.2A6.2A16$53.2A$52.A.A$54.A!

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Re: Synthesis components

Post by 2718281828 » August 13th, 2019, 5:56 am

more stuff,might be known:

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x = 69, y = 67, rule = B3/S23
2$10bo$8bobo17bo22bo$9b2o15bobo20bobo$27b2o21b2o5$7b2o18b2o21b2o$7b2o
18b2o21b2o$14b2o19bo21b2o$13b2o19b2o20b2o$15bo18bobo21bo17$10bobo$11b
2o40bo$11bo39bobo$52b2o4$7b2o$7b2o39b2o$15b2o31b2o$15bobo38b2o$15bo39b
2o$57bo9$6bo24bo$4bobo22bobo$5b2o23b2o4$13b3o$13bo$14bo15b2ob2o$6b2ob
2o19b2ob2o4b3o$6b2ob2o28bo$40bo!
The latter two are no components, still nice.
The second row allows this pseudo still life in 4G:

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x = 25, y = 21, rule = B3/S23
6$17bo$15bobo$16b2o5$9b2ob2o$9b2ob2o$20b2o$19b2o$21bo!

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Re: Synthesis components

Post by Kazyan » August 13th, 2019, 10:14 am

Block on snake-end to siamese shillelagh. Improvable if a clean 3G checker spark inserter can be found that fits; the B activation on top disappears cleanly if left alone, but the checker spark here doesn't.

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x = 26, y = 18, rule = B3/S23
13bo10bo$4bobo5bo10bo$5b2o5b3o8b3o$5bo5$4b2ob2o$3bobob2o$2bo14bobo$bo
15b2o$o11bobo3bo$2o10b2o$13bo$15bo$14b2o$14bobo!
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Re: Synthesis components

Post by 2718281828 » August 15th, 2019, 7:17 am

Maybe someone finds a way for to insert the methuselah:

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x = 22, y = 9, rule = LifeHistory
5.3A6.3A$4.A2.2A4.2A2.A$3.2A12.2A$4.A2.A2.2D2.A2.A$9.D2.D$8.D.2C.D$9.
C2.C$2A8.2C8.2A$2A18.2A!
for a hive to honeycomb.
It is a consequence of this sequence:

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x = 7, y = 9, rule = B3/S23
2bo$2o$2o$2bo$2o$ob4o$2bo3bo$2b2obo$4bo!
or this:

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x = 37, y = 57, rule = B3/S23
2$24bo$23bobo$23bobo$24bo2$9bo9b2o7b2o$7b3o8bo2bo5bo2bo$7bobo9b2o7b2o$
7bo$24bo$23bobo$23bobo$24bo2$15bo$15bo$15bo9b2o$25b2o12$25b2o$15bo9b2o
$15bo$15bo2$24bo$23bobo$23bobo$24bo$7bo$7bobo9b2o7b2o$7b3o8bo2bo5bo2bo
$9bo9b2o7b2o2$24bo$23bobo$23bobo$24bo!
It also allows this:

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x = 22, y = 15, rule = LifeHistory
9.A$7.2A$7.2A$9.A$7.2A$7.A.4A$9.A3.A$9.2A.A$11.A3$2E18.2E$2E18.2E$10.
2E$10.2E!

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Re: Synthesis components

Post by BlinkerSpawn » August 15th, 2019, 11:11 am

2718281828 wrote:Maybe someone finds a way for to insert the methuselah:

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x = 22, y = 9, rule = LifeHistory
5.3A6.3A$4.A2.2A4.2A2.A$3.2A12.2A$4.A2.A2.2D2.A2.A$9.D2.D$8.D.2C.D$9.
C2.C$2A8.2C8.2A$2A18.2A!
for a hive to honeycomb.
This works, although an optimal solution to the original problem would be up to two gliders cheaper, depending on the cost of the block:

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x = 26, y = 24, rule = B3/S23
17bo$17bobo$17b2o2$8bo$9b2o$8b2o3$3bobo14bobo$4b2o14b2o$4bo16bo$12b2o$
12b2o2$12b2o$11bo2bo$3o9b2o9b3o$2bo20bo$bo22bo2$3b2o16b2o$2bobo16bobo$
4bo16bo!
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Re: Synthesis components

Post by Extrementhusiast » August 15th, 2019, 4:20 pm

Kazyan wrote:Block on snake-end to siamese shillelagh. Improvable if a clean 3G checker spark inserter can be found that fits; the B activation on top disappears cleanly if left alone, but the checker spark here doesn't.

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RLE
The first of many possibilities:

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x = 15, y = 16, rule = B3/S23
5bo4bo$6bob2o$4b3o2b2o4$ob2ob2o$2obob2o3bo$9bo$9b3o3$8bo$8b2o2bobo$7bo
bo2b2o$13bo!
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Re: Synthesis components

Post by testitemqlstudop » September 14th, 2019, 12:05 am

I have ran transfer.py on all unsynthesized xs20 still lives to get a list of usable components.

https://gist.githubusercontent.com/test ... onents.sjk

It solves at least five still lives:

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xs17_25a88bdzx252>25 -3/-14 6 2 5 15 -3/-9 7/@0l8 -7>xs20_0giligzo9a40252
xs17_ol30ga6z6221>25 -3/-14 6 2 5 15 -3/-9 7/@0L-1 -7>xs20_3ia408ozra8421
xs17_0db0ga6z6511>25 -3/-14 6 2 5 15 -3/-9 7/@0L-1 -7>xs20_3ia408ozol5421
xs17_69606icz06421>45 -10/-12 8 -1 -2 8 5 10 -9 24 4/35 -2/@0L-7 -1>xs20_c88b5wkczw35421
xs17_2ll2wkczw3421>45 -10/-12 8 -1 -2 8 5 10 -9 24 4/35 -2/@0b-1 -7>xs20_c88b5w8ozw178421

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Re: Synthesis components

Post by calcyman » September 14th, 2019, 4:06 am

testitemqlstudop wrote:I have ran transfer.py on all unsynthesized xs20 still lives to get a list of usable components.

https://gist.githubusercontent.com/test ... onents.sjk

It solves at least five still lives:

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xs17_25a88bdzx252>25 -3/-14 6 2 5 15 -3/-9 7/@0l8 -7>xs20_0giligzo9a40252
xs17_ol30ga6z6221>25 -3/-14 6 2 5 15 -3/-9 7/@0L-1 -7>xs20_3ia408ozra8421
xs17_0db0ga6z6511>25 -3/-14 6 2 5 15 -3/-9 7/@0L-1 -7>xs20_3ia408ozol5421
xs17_69606icz06421>45 -10/-12 8 -1 -2 8 5 10 -9 24 4/35 -2/@0L-7 -1>xs20_c88b5wkczw35421
xs17_2ll2wkczw3421>45 -10/-12 8 -1 -2 8 5 10 -9 24 4/35 -2/@0b-1 -7>xs20_c88b5w8ozw178421
Nice! I'll look at any new unsynthesised left-hand-sides and parallelise transfer.py on those, in the hope of finding some multi-step solutions.
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Re: Synthesis components

Post by BlinkerSpawn » September 16th, 2019, 7:44 pm

A component which should significantly reduce the spider:

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x = 38, y = 47, rule = B3/S23
10$28bo$20b2o6bobo$19bo2bo5b2o$19bo2bo$20b2o4$7bo$8b2o15b2obo$7b2o8b3o
4bo2b2o$23bobo3b2o$24bob2o3bo$26bob3o$26bobo$20b3o2b2o$26bobo$26bob3o$
10b3o11bob2o3bo$12bo10bobo3b2o$4b2o5bo5b3o4bo2b2o$5b2o18b2obo$4bo4$20b
2o$19bo2bo$19bo2bo5b2o$20b2o6bobo$28bo!
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