How to get two gliders in place for a gun

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Awesomeness
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How to get two gliders in place for a gun

Post by Awesomeness » July 10th, 2010, 10:10 am

This:

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x = 278, y = 154, rule = B3/S23
13$203b2o$202bobo$204bo5$172b3o$173bo$173bo2bo$173bo2bo$174bobo4$191b
3o$191bo$174bo17bo$174b2o$174b2o$174b2o$172bo$172bo3bo$174bo2bo$176bo
7$207b3o$207bo19b3o$208bo18b3o$227b3o$224b3o$224b3o$224b3o$191bo$190b
2o29bo$190bobo27bobo$220b2o$90bo133b2o$224bobo$88b3obo126b2o5bo$87bob
2o128b2o5b2o$87b2obo119bo$85bob3o120b2o$209bobo$87bo$58bobo22bo$57bo
24bobo$58bo2bo20b2o$60b3o23b2o128bobo$86bobo118bo11bo23bo$81b2o5bo117b
2o7bo4bo2b2o6bo11b3o$81b2o5b2o99bo16bobo6b2obo2bob2o4b3o14bo23b2o$189b
3o27b2o7bo16b2o23bo$192bo35b2o38bobo$173bo17b2o71b2ob3o$161bo11b3o19bo
38bo4bo24bob2o$159b3o14bo18b2o35b2ob3o2bo3b2o19b3o$67b2o74bo14bo16b2o
17bob2o35b2obo7bobo15b5o$68b2o73b3o12b2o35b3o4b2o30bob2obo6bo15b3o$67b
o78bo46b5o3bo2bo31b2o6b3o$78b4o23bo39b2o8bo37bo2bo7bo19bo10bo$77bo7b2o
6bo11b3o44b5o22bob2o11bo9bo5b2o11b3o12bo27bo$51bo25bo3b2o2b2o4b3o14bo
23b2o16bo3bob2o21b4o18b2obo4bobo10b2o2bo8bo2bo27b3o$51b3o24bo2b2o7bo
16b2o23bo13b4o4bo2b2o20bo3bo9bo3bo3b2o6bo16b2o9bo$54bo35b2o38bobo13b4o
3bo2b2o7b2o13b3o9bo4bo10b2o13b3ob2o29bobo6b2o$35bo17b2o18b2o51b2o2b2o
17b3o13b2o13b3o41bo2b2o30bo3b2ob2o$23bo11b3o34b2o52b2o52bo11b2o2bo5b2o
19b3o6b2o30b3o3b2o$21b3o14bo35bo119b2o6b2o22b2o4bo19b2o11bo4bobo$5bo
14bo16b2o58b3o13b2o40b2o69b2o6bo16bobo18bo$5b3o12b2o42b2o33bo13bobo39b
2o76b2o16bo20b2o$8bo30b3o22b2o33bo13bo5bo36bo72b2o19b2o4b2o$7b2o23b2o
5bo55bob2o19bo2b2o39b2o36b2o17bo9bo24bo2bo$25b3o3bo2b2o4bo24bo6b2o20b
2o21bo5bo38bo19b2o10bo5bobo16bobo8b3o21b2o$27bo2bo5bo27bobo4bobo46b2ob
2o39bo16bobo9bobo6bo16b2o11bo30b2o$8b2o15bob2o2b3o2bo18b3o5bo2bo4bo44b
o3b4o39b2o16bo10bo9b2o59b2o$8b2o15bob2obo3b3o17bo2bo4bo2bo4b2o45bo4bo
36b2o19b2o4b2o6bobo$27bob2o26bo24bo35b3o38bo24bo2bo6b2o$32bo20bo4bo3bo
2bo14b6o8b2o24bo11b2o26b3o21b2o27b2o$16bo7b2o3bo2bo19bo5b3o3b2o14b2o2b
2o8bo19b2o16bobo27bo49bobo$15b3o33bo6b2o36bo16bobo18bo11bo65bo$14b2o2b
o32b4ob3o25bo10b2o16bo20b2o9bo65b2o$14bob4o32b2o3bo22b2o2bo6b2o19b2o4b
2o27bo125b2o$14bo4bo4b2o36b2o16b2o3bo5bo24bo2bo9bo13bo129bo$14bo2b2o5b
o19b2o16bobo19bo7b3o21b2o10b3o11bob2o3b3o119bobo$16b2o8bo16bobo18bo17b
obo9bo29b2o3b2o11bo6bo2bo118b2o$25b2o16bo20b2o17bo40bo16b2o4bo4bo66b3o
$12bo8b2o19b2o4b2o9bo63bo3bo75b2o13bo2bo42bob2o$12bobo6bo24bo2bo9bo63b
o3b2o17bo5bo50bo14b2obo41b5o$12b2o8b3o21b2o7bo19b2o47bo4b2o70bobo18b2o
29bo9b4o$24bo31bo17bobo70b2o4bo47b2o19b2o6b2o21b3o$55bobo16bo50bo5bo
17b2o3bo66bo2bo3bo2bo24bo7b3o$73b2o75bo3bo67b2o4b2o4b2o19b2o7b3o$125bo
4bo4b2o16bo40bo17b2o20bo16b2o12bo$5b2o118bo2bo6bo11b2o3b2o29bo9bobo17b
o18bobo16bo$4bobo47b2o70b3o3b2obo11b3o10b2o21b3o7bo19bobo16b2o19bo$4bo
129bo13bo9bo2bo24bo5bo3b2o16b2o36b2o$3b2o125bo27b2o4b2o19b2o6bo2b2o$
65b2o65bo9b2o20bo16b2o10bo$65bo65bo11bo18bobo16bo$59bo3bobo49bo27bobo
16b2o19bo8b2o2b2o31bo3bo$56bo6b2o27b2o21b3o26b2o11bo24b2o8b6o30b3obo2b
o18bo$56bo2bo22b2o6bo2bo24bo38b3o35bo32bobobo19bo3bo$55b3o23bobo6b2o4b
2o19b2o36bo4bo73bo17bo3bo11b2o$11b3o41b3o16b2o9bo10bo16b2o39b4o3bo72b
2o16bobo13b2o$10bo2bo31bo9bo2bo16bo6bobo9bobo16bo39b2ob2o70bo3bobo$15b
o6b2o21b3o8bobo16bobo5bo10b2o19bo38bo5bo21b2o48bobo$9bo5bo4bo2bo24bo7b
3o17b2o36b2o39b2o2bo19b2obo37b2o47b2o$10bo4bo4b2o4b2o19b2o72bo36bo5bo
13bo19b2o16b2o2b2o47bo$4b2o6bo13bo16b2o76b2o39bobo13bo19b2o15bobo38b2o
12b3o$5bo18bobo16bo77b2o40b2o13b3o34bo23b2o16bo14bo$5bobo16b2o19bo168b
2o23bo14b3o$6b2o36b2o51bo52b2o47b2o39b3o11bo$95b3o13b2o13b3o17b2o2b2o
47bo42bo$95b3o13b2o7b2o2bo3b4o13bobo38b2o12b3o$94bo3bo20b2o2bo4b4o13bo
23b2o16bo14bo$95b4o21b2obo3bo16b2o23bo14b3o$22b2o21bo49b2obo22b5o44b3o
11bo$21b4obo15bobob2o34b2o38bo8b2o39bo$19b2o3bob2o14bo3b2o12b2o16b2o2b
2o47bo$19b2ob2o2bo33b2o15bobo38b2o12b3o$20b6o20bo30bo23b2o16bo14bo$24b
o19bobo29b2o23bo14b3o$12b2o37b2o8b2o39b3o11bo$8b2o2b2o47bo42bo$7bobo
38b2o12b3o$7bo23b2o16bo14bo$6b2o23bo14b3o$32b3o11bo$34bo!
Needs to fire this:

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x = 29, y = 20, rule = B3/S23
12bo$12b2o$11bobo6$19b2o$20b2o$19bo!
If I move either slide gun into place (the right one 9 pixels up and right or the left one 9 pixels down and left) it blows up. How can I fit this in?

Jason Summers
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Re: How to get two gliders in place for a gun

Post by Jason Summers » July 10th, 2010, 4:43 pm

There are many ways that a glider can suppress the switch engine smoke, but this might be the only one that lets your sideways glider slip past:

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x = 211, y = 177, rule = B3/S23
172boo$171bobo$173bo6$179b3o$181bo$180bo6$140boo$139bobo$141bo5$109b3o
$110bo36b3o$110bobbo35bo$110bobbo34bo$111bobo4$128b3o$128bo$129bo7$
115b3o$117bo$116bo5$144b3o$144bo$129boo14bo$129bobo$129bo5$83b3o$85bo$
84bo5$160b3o$160bo$145boo14bo$145bobo$145bo5$51b3o$53bo$52bo5$176b3o$
176bo$161boo14bo$161bobo$161bo5$19b3o$21bo$bobo6bobo7bo$o9bobo$bobbo6b
o$3b3o$$192b3o$192bo$177boo14bo$177bobo$177bo3$33boo$33bobo$33bo6$16b
oo$15boo191b3o$17bo190bo$193boo14bo$193bobo$193bo3$49boo$49bobo$49bo6$
32boo$31boo$33bo6$65boo$65bobo$65bo6$48boo$47boo$49bo6$81boo$81bobo$
81bo6$64boo$63boo$65bo6$97boo$97bobo$97bo6$80boo$79boo$81bo!
A dual glider gun for this will be a little harder to build, though.

Awesomeness
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Re: How to get two gliders in place for a gun

Post by Awesomeness » July 10th, 2010, 8:25 pm

I tried repositioning one of the guns, and it fits, but the gliders collide. How can I avoid this?

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x = 190, y = 198, rule = B3/S23
10$96b3o$98bo$97bo5$104b2o$103bobo$105bo7$64b3o$66bo$65bo5$72b2o$71bob
o$73bo2$26bo$25bobo5bo$31b2ob2o$25b3o2bo3b2o6b2o$31b2ob2o6bobo$31b4o7b
o7$40b2o$39bobo$41bo5$58b2o$58bobo$58bo$42b3o$42bo$43bo11$74b2o$74bobo
$74bo$58b3o$58bo$59bo11$90b2o$90bobo$90bo$74b3o$74bo$75bo8$123bo$122b
3o$121bob3o$108b2o10bo3bo$108bobo8bo3bo$108bo9b3obo$92b3o24b3o$92bo27b
o$93bo22bo$115bobo$115b2o$119b2o$119bobo$114b2o5bo$114b2o5b2o5$101b2o$
102b2o$101bo$106b3o11b2o22bo$106bo9b2o2b2o2b2o6bo11b3o$107bo8b2o2bo2bo
bo4b3o14bo23b2o$84bo37b3o4bo16b2o23bo$84b3o35b2o5b2o38bobo$87bo46bo30b
2o2b2o$68bo17b2o50bo26b2o$56bo11b3o62bobo3bo4b4o$54b3o14bo61bo5b2o3bo
2b2o$38bo14bo16b2o67b2o4bo2b2o$38b3o12b2o42b2o25b3o10bo7bo2bo$41bo55bo
2bo23bobo9b2ob2o5b2o$40b2o17bo4bo46b2o9bo3bo10bobo26bobo$57b2ob3o2bo3b
2o17b3o6bo2bo4b2o3bobo9bob2o2bo37bo2bo$58b2obo7bobo15bo2bo5bo2bo4bobo
3bo11bo3bo38bo3bo$41b2o16bob2obo6bo15b2obo5bobo5bo4b2o13b2o41bobo$41b
2o18b2o6b3o25bo5b2o25bo33b2o$49bo10bo63bo5bo2b2o29bo7bo$48b3o12bo27bo
5b2o25bo4bo3bo19b2o10bo2bob2obo$47b2o2bo8bo2bo27b3o3b2o28b3o5bo16bobo
10b3o5bo$51b2o9bo71b2o16bo20b2o$48b3ob2o29bobo6b2o36b2o19b2o4b2o$49bo
2b2o30bo3b2ob2o37bo24bo2bo$48b3o6b2o30b3o3b2o22bobo9b3o21b2o$51b2o4bo
19b2o11bo4bobo21b2o12bo30b2o$51b2o6bo16bobo18bo22bo43b2o$58b2o16bo20b
2o$54b2o19b2o4b2o$44bo9bo24bo2bo31b2o$44bobo8b3o21b2o32bobo$44b2o11bo
30b2o23bo$88b2o22b2o$174b2o$174bo$38b2o81bo50bobo$37bobo80b3o49b2o$37b
o81b2o2bo$36b2o81bo$98b2o19b3o$98bo20b2ob2o30bo$96bobo23bob2o5b2o21b3o
$96b2o23b2o2bo3bo2bo24bo6b3o$44b3o76b2o4b2o4b2o19b2o8bo$43bo2bo42bob2o
20b2o20bo16b2o11b3o$43b2obo41b5o21bo18bobo16bo$47b2o29bo9b4o22bobo16b
2o19bo$47b2o6b2o21b3o34b2o36b2o$46bo2bo3bo2bo24bo7b3o$47b2o4b2o4b2o19b
2o7b3o$37b2o20bo16b2o12bo39b2o$38bo18bobo16bo51b2ob3o$38bobo16b2o19bo
49b2obobo$39b2o36b2o53bob2o17bo$152b2o15b2o$136bo16b2o14b2o2$54bo3bo$
53b3obo2bo18bo41b2o47b2o$53bobobo19bo3bo35b2o2b2o47bo$59bo17bo3bo11b2o
21bobo38b2o12b3o$59b2o16bobo13b2o21bo23b2o16bo14bo$53bo3bobo55b2o23bo
14b3o$57bobo81b3o11bo$45b2o47b2o47bo$45b2o47bo$81b2o12b3o$64b2o16bo14b
o$64bo14b3o$65b3o11bo$67bo!

Jason Summers
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Re: How to get two gliders in place for a gun

Post by Jason Summers » July 11th, 2010, 3:33 pm

This is a pathological case where most of the usual glider-insertion methods fail. But there are countless ways to collide gliders and spaceships to produce a glider. Some of them are bound to work, such as

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x = 321, y = 146, rule = B3/S23
133bo$133bobo$133boo10$16boo$16bobo$16bo$3o$o116bo$bo115bobo$117boo5$
320bo$318boo$319boo3$32boo$32bobo$32bo$16b3o$16bo84bo$17bo83bobo$101b
oo5$304bo$302boo$303boo3$48boo$48bobo$48bo$32b3o$32bo52bo$33bo51bobo$
85boo5$288bo$286boo$287boo3$64boo$64bobo$64bo$48b3o$48bo20bo$49bo19bob
o$69boo$74boo30boo30boo30boo30boo30boo30boo$73booboo27booboo27booboo
27booboo27booboo27booboo27booboo$74b4o28b4o28b4o28b4o28b4o28b4o28b4o$
75boo30boo30boo30boo30boo30boo30boo$$282boo$71bo211bo$71boo201b9o$70bo
bo200bob6obb3o$276b4obbobbo$272bobo8boo$272boo$64b3o205bo$64bo203boobb
obo$65bo191b3o8bobbobbooboo$259bo9bobob4obo$258bo11bobbobbo$271boobobo
$272bobobobo$271bobboobobo$271boo4bobo$277boo$55bo$55boo$54bobo4$80b3o
$80bo$81bo159b3o$243bo$242bo6$39bo$39boo$38bobo4$96b3o$96bo$97bo127b3o
$227bo$226bo6$23bo$23boo$22bobo4$112b3o$112bo$113bo8$7bo$7boo$6bobo4$
128b3o$128bo$129bo!

Awesomeness
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Re: How to get two gliders in place for a gun

Post by Awesomeness » July 11th, 2010, 6:32 pm

Okay, thanks.

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