The Hunting of the Periodic Herschel Conduits

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Re: The Hunting of the Periodic Herschel Conduits

Post by Jormungant » November 25th, 2021, 2:05 pm

Well well, glad to know you found a solution anyways, as I missed that one... In any case, congrats! That makes a very nice periodic g-to-h. Remains to deal with the natural glider (though, it is not 100% needed as you might know).

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x = 80, y = 44, rule = LifeHistory
3$11.2A37.2A$10.A2.A35.A2.A$9.A.A.A34.A.A.A$9.A2.A35.A2.A$8.A38.A$9.A
.A36.A.A3$2.2A37.2A$3.A38.A$3.A.A36.A.A$4.2A37.2A2$16.2A37.2A13B$16.
2A37.2A13B.B$16.2B37.15B.B$16.B38.B.3B.B.2B6.B$16.B38.B7.3B5.B$14.2A
37.2A9.C2B.2C.B$5.2A5.A4.A.2A3.C3.2C14.2A5.A4.A.2A3.C.C2B.C$6.2A12.A
2.C.CB2.C15.2A12.A2.C.CB2.C$5.A12.2A3.2C3.C15.A12.2A3.C4.C$10.8A2.A2C
4.C21.8A2.2AC.5C.C$10.2A7.A3.5C.C19.2A7.A2.C.C4.2C$9.2A9.2C.C4.2C18.
2A9.C.C.C.2C$9.A11.C.C.2C21.A11.2C.C.C$21.C.C.C37.C.C$5.2A2.3A10.C2.C
18.2A2.3A12.2C$5.A2.A.2A2.2A7.2C19.A2.A.2A2.2A$6.A.A4.A.A29.A.A4.A.A$
7.A2.A2.2A31.A2.A2.2A$8.2A.A.A33.2A.A.A$9.A.A.A.A32.A.A.A.A$9.A.2A.A.
A31.A.2A.A.A$10.A3.A2.A31.A3.A2.A$11.3A.A.A32.3A.A.A$13.A.2A35.A.2A!
I like the fact that a glider horizontally shifted by 2-4 just goes through unharmed as it stands. And the theoretical recovery time of 44, which well is not exactly true with that natural glider /possible follow ups.
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Re: The Hunting of the Periodic Herschel Conduits

Post by Sokwe » November 25th, 2021, 2:27 pm

Jormungant wrote:
November 25th, 2021, 1:25 pm
hotdogPi wrote:
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Discussion moved from that accidental discoveries thread.
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Re: The Hunting of the Periodic Herschel Conduits

Post by JP21 » November 25th, 2021, 2:33 pm

Smaller population:

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x = 27, y = 34, rule = B3/S23
5bobo$8bo$4bo2bo$3bobobo$3bo2bo$4b2o$2o$bo$bobo$2b2o2$13b2o$13b2o4$3bo
$3b2o11b2o3bo3b2o$2bobo4b6o2bo2bobo3bo$8bo6b2o3b2o3bo$17b3o4bo$7b2o5bo
bo3b5obo$6bo4b2o4b3o5b2o$5b2o12bo2b2o$5b2o15bo$6b2o15bo$3b2o2bo2bo11b
2o$5bo4b3o$2bob5o4bo$2bo5b5o$3b5o2bo$7bo$5bo$5b2o!

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Re: The Hunting of the Periodic Herschel Conduits

Post by EvinZL » November 25th, 2021, 5:24 pm

Replaced the mold with a catalyst, reducing population

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x = 28, y = 35, rule = B3/S23
6b2o$6b2o2$6b4o$6bo2bo3$2o$bo$bobo$2b2o$10b2o$11b2ob2o$10bo3b2o4$12b2o
$10bo4bob2o3bo3b2o$18bo2bobo3bo$16b2o3b2o3bo$8b8o2b3o4bo$8b2o7bo3b5ob
o$7b2o9b3o5b2o$7bo12bo2b2o$23bo$5b3o16bo$5b4o2bo11b2o$4bo6b3o$4b6o4bo
$3bo5b5o$4b5o2bo$8bo$6bo$6b2o!

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Re: The Hunting of the Periodic Herschel Conduits

Post by cvojan » November 26th, 2021, 1:41 am

Syringe that works at p52

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x = 36, y = 47, rule = LifeHistory
9.2A$8.A2.A18.2A$6.AB.A.A16.2B2AB$6.3B.A17.4B$6.AB2A17.4B$7.A2B18.5B$
10.2B16.7B$10.3B15.7B$2A8.3B14.7B2A$.A7.6B10.9B2A$.A.AB4.7B2.2B2.11B.
B$2.2AB2.18BA6B$3.22BABA4B$4.5BA4B2A9B3A4B$4.5B2A3B2A11BA4B$7.BABA20B
$6.9B.3B.B2.2B$5.4B3.3B9.B$4.4B3.4B8.2AB2.A$3.4B3.6B7.A.ABABA.2A$2.4B
4.6A5.A.A.ABA.2A.A$.4B4.A.A2BA.A3.A.A.2A3B$4B5.AB.2B.BA3.A.A.A3BAB2A$
3B4.2A2.A2BA2.2A.A.A.B2A.B2.A$2B4.A2.3B2A3B2.A.2A.A.A.2A$B5.A2.2BA2.A
2B2.A3.2A.A.A$4.2A.2A.2A2B2A.2A.2A3.2A.A$5.A.A.4AB3A.A.A.2A3.A$5.A2.A
.2A.B.ABAB.A3.3A$6.A.A.3A.B2A.A.A3.A$4.A.A.A.2AB.BA.2A.2A$4.2A2.A.4B.
A3.A2.A$8.2A2.3A.2A2.2A$9.A3.2A.A$6.3A3.A3.A$6.A4.2B3A$10.3A$9.B2A2.
2A$9.AB.2A.A$10.2B2A.A.2A$10.AB.A.A2.A$9.BA.BA.2A$9.A.B.A.A$10.2ABA.A
$14.A$8.6A$8.A2.A!

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Re: The Hunting of the Periodic Herschel Conduits

Post by MathAndCode » December 1st, 2021, 1:03 am

Here is a periodic way to convert a Herschel into a glider.

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x = 41, y = 34, rule = B3/S23
18b2o18bo$19bo17b3o$19bobo14b5o$20b2o6$36b5o$37b3o$38bo2$2o$b2o9b2o$2o
10b2o$o4$36b2o$36b2o4$36b2o$36b2o$22b2o$21bobo$21bo$20b2o8b2o$30bo$31b
3o$33bo!
I'm certain that it works at other periods.
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Re: The Hunting of the Periodic Herschel Conduits

Post by cvojan » December 6th, 2021, 8:20 pm

P2 H-to-R:

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x = 24, y = 13, rule = LifeHistory
7.3B$6.6B10.2A$5.8B9.A$6.6B2.2B3.BA.A$6.12B.B2A$3.17B$.10B3C6B$.2BC
16B$3BCDC14B$.2BACA13B$.4BA4B3.B.B$2.7B4.B2AB$14.2A!
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Re: The Hunting of the Periodic Herschel Conduits

Post by MathAndCode » December 8th, 2021, 3:59 am

cvojan wrote:
December 6th, 2021, 8:20 pm
P2 H-to-R:

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x = 24, y = 13, rule = LifeHistory
7.3B$6.6B10.2A$5.8B9.A$6.6B2.2B3.BA.A$6.12B.B2A$3.17B$.10B3C6B$.2BC
16B$3BCDC14B$.2BACA13B$.4BA4B3.B.B$2.7B4.B2AB$14.2A!
The junk the eater eats could potentially be useful
The block-B-heptomino interaction is the beginning of BLx19R. The second R-sequence soon hits the blinker, but a fishhook can convert that R-sequence into a glider (which was already known as BNW5T30).

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x = 24, y = 17, rule = LifeHistory
22.2A$22.A$20.A.A$20.2A2$8.3E$C$C.C$3C$2.C14.2A$11.2A4.A.A$11.2A5.2A2$15.2A$16.A$13.3A$13.A!
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Re: The Hunting of the Periodic Herschel Conduits

Post by Entity Valkyrie 2 » December 8th, 2021, 4:33 am

cvojan wrote:
December 6th, 2021, 8:20 pm
P2 H-to-R:

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x = 24, y = 13, rule = LifeHistory
7.3B$6.6B10.2A$5.8B9.A$6.6B2.2B3.BA.A$6.12B.B2A$3.17B$.10B3C6B$.2BC
16B$3BCDC14B$.2BACA13B$.4BA4B3.B.B$2.7B4.B2AB$14.2A!
The junk the eater eats could potentially be useful
Here is the equivalent P1 H-to-R and an H-to-B:

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x = 42, y = 13, rule = B3/S23
o$3o9b2o13b2o11b2o$3bo7bobo14bo10bobo$2b2o7bo16bobo8bo$10b2o17b2o7b2o
2$10b2o26b2o$9bobo25bobo$10bo27bo$bo9b3o15bo9b3o$bobo9bo15bobo9bo$b3o
25b3o$3bo27bo!
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Re: The Hunting of the Periodic Herschel Conduits

Post by MathAndCode » December 28th, 2021, 7:44 pm

MathAndCode wrote:
December 27th, 2021, 12:44 pm
The weld at the right is unnecessary.

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x = 50, y = 47, rule = LifeHistory
25.2A$24.A.A$20.2B2.BA$18.7B$16.10B$B8.2B3.12B$2B5.5BC12B$3B4.6BC10B$
4B.8B2C7B$.11B2C10B$2.10BC12B7.A$3.21B6.3A$4.4B.5B2E7B6.A$5.4B.4B2E7B
6.2A$6.16B4.5B$7.13B6.3B$8.11B5.7B$9.11B3.9B$10.10B4.7B$10.11B3.7B$7.
B.13B.9B$6.2AB.12B2.7B$6.2A13B2.9B.B3.B$7.35B.B$7.38B$9.37B$9.37B$9.37B
$9.35B.B2A$7.2AB.33B.BA.A$6.A.AB.4B3.26B4.A$6.A5.3B.5B.3B2.13B2.4B2.2A
$5.2A9.2A9.13B4.2A$17.A10.10B6.A$14.3A11.6B2.B8.3A$14.A13.6B13.A$27.7B
$27.6B$28.6B$28.5B$27.6B$27.6B$28.5B$28.3D2B$29.BDB$29.3D$30.B!
Using a V-sparker lets the glider escape.

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x = 53, y = 46, rule = LifeHistory
20.2A$19.A.A$20.A5$7.2C$8.2C$7.2C$7.C19.A$25.3A$9.2E13.A$9.2E13.2A8$.
2A$.2A5$45.8A$45.A.4A.A$2.2A41.8A$.A.A$.A$2A9.2A$12.A$9.3A$9.A8$23.3D
$25.D$24.3D!
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Re: The Hunting of the Periodic Herschel Conduits

Post by EvinZL » December 28th, 2021, 9:10 pm

MathAndCode wrote:
December 28th, 2021, 7:44 pm
Using a V-sparker lets the glider escape.

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x = 53, y = 46, rule = LifeHistory
20.2A$19.A.A$20.A5$7.2C$8.2C$7.2C$7.C19.A$25.3A$9.2E13.A$9.2E13.2A8$.
2A$.2A5$45.8A$45.A.4A.A$2.2A41.8A$.A.A$.A$2A9.2A$12.A$9.3A$9.A8$23.3D
$25.D$24.3D!
simpler

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x = 53, y = 46, rule = LifeHistory
20.2A$19.A.A$20.A5$7.2C$8.2C$7.2C$7.C19.A$25.3A$9.2E13.A$9.2E13.2A8$.
2A$.2A48.2A$50.A.A$48.3A$47.A3.A$43.5A2.2A$42.3A.2A$43.5A2.2A$2.2A43.
A3.A$.A.A44.3A$.A48.A.A$2A9.2A38.2A$12.A$9.3A$9.A8$23.3D$25.D$24.3D!

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Re: The Hunting of the Periodic Herschel Conduits

Post by MathAndCode » December 28th, 2021, 10:55 pm

EvinZL wrote:
December 28th, 2021, 9:10 pm

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x = 53, y = 46, rule = LifeHistory
20.2A$19.A.A$20.A5$7.2C$8.2C$7.2C$7.C19.A$25.3A$9.2E13.A$9.2E13.2A8$.
2A$.2A48.2A$50.A.A$48.3A$47.A3.A$43.5A2.2A$42.3A.2A$43.5A2.2A$2.2A43.
A3.A$.A.A44.3A$.A48.A.A$2A9.2A38.2A$12.A$9.3A$9.A8$23.3D$25.D$24.3D!
Domino sparks also work.

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x = 50, y = 46, rule = LifeHistory
20.2A$19.A.A$20.A5$7.2C$8.2C$7.2C$7.C19.A$25.3A$9.2E13.A$9.2E13.2A7$46.
3A$.2A46.A$.2A42.A3.A$44.A.A2.A$42.A2.A.A$42.A3.A$42.A$43.3A2$2.2A$.A
.A$.A$2A9.2A$12.A$9.3A$9.A8$23.3D$25.D$24.3D!
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Re: The Hunting of the Periodic Herschel Conduits

Post by Entity Valkyrie 2 » August 20th, 2022, 5:02 am

p5/p6 H-to-LWSS:

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x = 25, y = 135, rule = B3/S23
2b2o$3bo$3bobo$4b2o$18bo$16b3o$15bo$15b2o4$20b2o$20bo$18bobo$18b2o6$o$
obo$3o$2bo12$4b2o3b2o$4b2o3b2o5$7b2o$8bo$5b3o$5bo$11b6o$10bo6bo$6b2obo
8bob2o$6b2obo8bob2o$13b2o2$10b3o2b3o2$7b3o8b3o$9bo8bo$3b2obobo10bobob
2o$3bob2obobo6bobob2obo$9b2o6b2o19$2b2o$3bo$3bobo$4b2o$18bo$16b3o$15bo
$15b2o4$20b2o$20bo$18bobo$18b2o6$o$obo$3o$2bo12$4b2o3b2o$4b2o3b2o5$7b
2o$8bo$5b3o$5bo2$10b8o$8b3ob4ob3o$7bo12bo$8b7o2b2obo$18b2o$10bob5o$9bo
bo5b3o$9bobo3b2o3bo$8b2ob2obobob2o$15bo2bo$16bobo$14bobob2o$14b2o!
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Re: The Hunting of the Periodic Herschel Conduits

Post by Entity Valkyrie 2 » August 24th, 2022, 2:20 am

Crossposting a P5 G-to-H by Kazyan, attached to a R64:

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x = 51, y = 33, rule = B3/S23
13bobo$14b2o$14bo4$11b2o$4b2o5b2o$4b2o40b2o$34b2obob2o5bo$34bob2obobo
5bo$6b2o33bo4b2o$6b2o33bob2o$2o35bo3bobob5o$2o35bobobo8bo$38b2o3b5ob2o
$38bo3bobo$38bo6bo$21bo16bo6bo$21bo16bo3bobo$19b3o9b2o5b2o3b5ob2o$19bo
11b2o4bobobo8bo$37bo3bobob5o$41bob2o$41bo4b2o$15b2ob2o14bob2obobo5bo$
14bobobo2bo12b2obob2o5bo$15bo2bob2o24b2o$7b3o8bo$9bo7b2o$9b2o3bobo2b2o
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Re: The Hunting of the Periodic Herschel Conduits

Post by C28 » August 24th, 2022, 7:31 am

Entity Valkyrie 2 wrote:
August 24th, 2022, 2:20 am
Crossposting a P5 G-to-H by Kazyan, attached to a R64:

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x = 51, y = 33, rule = B3/S23
13bobo$14b2o$14bo4$11b2o$4b2o5b2o$4b2o40b2o$34b2obob2o5bo$34bob2obobo
5bo$6b2o33bo4b2o$6b2o33bob2o$2o35bo3bobob5o$2o35bobobo8bo$38b2o3b5ob2o
$38bo3bobo$38bo6bo$21bo16bo6bo$21bo16bo3bobo$19b3o9b2o5b2o3b5ob2o$19bo
11b2o4bobobo8bo$37bo3bobob5o$41bob2o$41bo4b2o$15b2ob2o14bob2obobo5bo$
14bobobo2bo12b2obob2o5bo$15bo2bob2o24b2o$7b3o8bo$9bo7b2o$9b2o3bobo2b2o
$14b2o2bo2bo$19b2o!
glider shift

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x = 42, y = 28, rule = B3/S23
4bobo$5b2o$5bo6$37b2o$25b2obob2o5bo$25bob2obobo5bo$32bo4b2o$32bob2o$28b
o3bobob5o$bo26bobobo8bo$obo26b2o3b5ob2o$obo26bo3bobo$bo27bo6bo$29bo6b
o$29bo3bobo$22b2o5b2o3b5ob2o$22b2o4bobobo8bo$28bo3bobob5o$32bob2o$32b
o4b2o$25bob2obobo5bo$25b2obob2o5bo$37b2o!
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x = 11, y = 15, rule = B3/S23
9bo$8bobo$8bobo$9bo8$b3o$b3o$obo$2o!
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Re: The Hunting of the Periodic Herschel Conduits

Post by Jormungant » August 24th, 2022, 8:35 am

carsoncheng wrote:
August 24th, 2022, 6:19 am
Two blocks are transparent in this pattern:

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x = 14, y = 25, rule = B3/S23
5b2o$5b2o4$6b3o$6bo$7bo7$5b2o$5b2o7$2o3bo2bo3b2o$5o4b5o$2o3bo2bo3b2o!
Useless G-to-block factory:

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x = 36, y = 13, rule = B3/S23
20b2o$20b2o2$3b4o$2b6o21b2o$b8o12b3o4bobo$2o6b2o11bo5b3o$b8o13bo4b2o$
2b6o20bobo$3b4o22bobo2b2o$30bo2bobo$31b4o$32b2o!

Well, here is a periodic g-to-(g+r) then!

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x = 63, y = 43, rule = LifeHistory
8$8.3A$8.3A$9.A$9.A$9.A25.2A$8.A.A6.2A12.2A3.A$17.2A7.2C3.2A2.A$25.A.
C7.2A$8.A.A16.C$9.A$9.A$9.A33.2D$8.3A33.2D$8.3A30.2BDB$40.6B$40.8B$
40.10B$40.5B.4B$40.2BD10BD$40.2B2D10BD$40.B2D11B2D$40.13B2D$41.12BD$
31.2A9.B2.8B$32.A12.2B3.B$29.3A14.AB$29.A15.A.A$45.2A!
It can be upgraded as a P5 period instead of p15 too:

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x = 71, y = 40, rule = LifeHistory
5$9.2A$10.A5.2A.A.2A$9.A5.A.A.2A.A$9.2A4.A2.B$12.2A.2A2B$7.5A.A.A.2AB
$6.A2.B3.B.A.A.AB6.B$6.2A.2B4A.2AB2A5.2B16.2A$10.A.B.2BA3BAB3.B2A12.
2A3.A$9.2B2A3.4BA2B.2B2A7.2C3.2A2.A$9.2B2A3.4BA7B6.A.C7.2A$10.A.B.2BA
3BAB.5B8.C$6.2A.2B4A.2AB2A3.4B$6.A2.B3.B.A.A.AB5.2B$7.5A.A.A.2AB7.B
24.2D$12.2A.2A2B34.2D$9.2A4.A2.B31.2BDB$9.A5.A.A.2A.A26.6B$10.A5.2A.A
.2A26.8B$9.2A38.10B$49.5B.4B$49.2BD10BD$49.2B2D10BD$49.B2D11B2D$49.
13B2D$50.12BD$40.2A9.B2.8B$41.A12.2B3.B$38.3A14.AB$38.A15.A.A$54.2A!
Its repeat time of 120 is not so great, but at least it makes this work.

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x = 79, y = 57, rule = LifeHistory
38.4B34.3B$39.4B32.4B$40.4B30.4B$41.4B28.4B$42.4B26.4B$43.2B2A24.4B$
44.2A2B22.4B$34.4B7.BA2B20.4B$33.6B7.4B18.4B$33.8B6.4B16.4B$20.B13.7B
7.4B14.4B$19.BAB11.9B7.4B12.4B$19.3A11.10B7.4B10.4B$18.ABABA10.10B8.
4B8.4B$18.ABABA6.14B9.4B6.4B$17.2B3A2B4.15B3.2A5.4B4.4B$17.3BA3B3.B2A
12B2A3.A6.4B2.4B$16.9B.2B2A7B2D3B2A2.A8.8B$16.22BD4B3.2A8.2B3AB$17.3B
A3B.13BD4B4.2B8.3BA$17.2B3A2B2.17B3.5B5.3BA2B$18.ABABA5.14B4.6B3.8B$
18.ABABA6.B2.8BA10B3.2D2B2.4B$19.3A9.8B3A10B.2B2D4.4B$19.BAB8.8BABABA
11BDB6.4B$20.B8.8B2A3B2A13B6.4B9.A$28.9BA3B2A16B5.4B6.3A$27.14BA11B2A
6B4.4B4.A$26.4B.21BAB2A.4B4.5B.B.2A$25.4B4.3B4.12BADBA8BD10B$24.3AB
14.10BACD2AB3A4BD7B$23.3BA16.9BDC2B2A2BA4B2D6B$22.3BA18.3B.6BA5BA3B2D
6B$21.4B.3B.B2.4B5.4B3.6BA2B2A4BD7B$14.18B.4B5.2A5.5B2.2A11B.3B$13.
16B2A5B2A5.A6.2B4.2B3.B2.B.B3.B2A$13.16B2A5B2A2.3A14.AB5.B2AB2.BA.A$
13.22B.B3.A15.A.A6.2A4.B2A$11.21B2AB21.2A11.4B$10.13B2.7B2A35.2A$10.
10B6.8B36.A$11.7B7.7B35.3A$9.8B6.10B34.A$9.2A5B2A2.13B$8.B2A8BA12B$6.
B.6B2A4B2A8B$5.2A6B2A6BA8B$5.2A5B3A2B2A2BA8B$6.4B.6B2ABA8B$6.4B2.B.3B
.B2.2B$23.3B$23.3B2A2.B$22.4A4B2A$22.3AB2A2B2A$23.B2.BA3B$28.3B!

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Re: The Hunting of the Periodic Herschel Conduits

Post by iNoMed » September 3rd, 2022, 4:18 am

Here's an extra-thin (dependent) HSE9 conduit, works at p7 and above:

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x = 15, y = 21, rule = B3/S23
9b6o$11b4o$9bobo$8b2o$6b2obo2bo$6b2obo3bo$7bo3bob2o$8bo2bob2o$11b2o$2b
2o5bobo$3bo2b4o$2bo3b6o$2b2o5$o$obo$3o$2bo!
This was initially found for an improvement to the period-154 glider gun.

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x = 35, y = 5, rule = B3/S23
4b2o3b2o3bo3b2ob2o3b2ob2o$2o2bobo3bo2bobobobobobobobobobo$obobo2bo2bob
o2bobo2bo2bobo3bobo$2bobo3bobobobo2bo5bobo3bobob2o$b2ob2o3b2ob2o3b2o3b
2ob2o3b2ob2o!

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Re: The Hunting of the Periodic Herschel Conduits

Post by pzq_alex » September 3rd, 2022, 4:33 am

iNoMed wrote:
September 3rd, 2022, 4:18 am
Here's an extra-thin (dependent) HSE9 conduit, works at p7 and above:

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x = 15, y = 21, rule = B3/S23
9b6o$11b4o$9bobo$8b2o$6b2obo2bo$6b2obo3bo$7bo3bob2o$8bo2bob2o$11b2o$2b
2o5bobo$3bo2b4o$2bo3b6o$2b2o5$o$obo$3o$2bo!
This was initially found for an improvement to the period-154 glider gun.
That also implies a super small G+H->LWSS:

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x = 16, y = 12, rule = B3/S23
2b2o$3bo9bo$2bo10bobo$2b2o9b2o5$o$obo$3o$2bo!
The previous only one I knew of is this:

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x = 18, y = 27, rule = LifeHistory
CBC8.5B$B2CB7.5B$.C3B6.5B$2.4B5.5B$3.4B4.5B$4.4B3.5B$5.4B2.5B$6.4B.5B
$7.9B$8.8B$9.7B$B9.2B3DB$8B3.BD2BD$4BC4B2.BD3B$2B3C4B2.BD3B$2BCBC4B.3B
DBD$2BC13B$17B$2.14B2A$4.12B2A$5.12B$4.13B$4.7B2.2B$2.2AB.3B$.A.AB$.A
$2A!
\sum_{n=1}^\infty H_n/n^2 = \zeta(3)

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Re: The Hunting of the Periodic Herschel Conduits

Post by GUYTU6J » September 26th, 2022, 6:22 am

F131_Bx106 Herschel duplicator with a p7 pipsquirter, shown attached to a dependent F166:

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x = 68, y = 54, rule = B3/S23
27bo$18b2o5b3o$18b2o4bo$24b2o2$8bo$8bo14b2o$6b3o9b2o3b2o$6bo11b2o2$30b
2ob2o4b2o$29bob2obo4bo$29bo4bob2obo$27b2ob4obobo2b2o$26bo3bo4bo2bobo$
2o24bobo2bo3bob2o2bo$bo23b2o3bo4bo3b2o$bobo24b2o4bo2b2o$2b2o18b2o2b2o
4bo5bo$28b4o5bo$25b2obo8b2o$26bobob2o$26bobob2o$27bo35b2o$64bo$2bo60bo
$2bobo58b2o$2b3o$4bo$34bo$34bo$23b2o9b3ob2o$23b2o11bob2o26b2o$66b2o7$
12b2ob2o$11bobobobo$9b3o3bobo43b2o$8bo4bobob3o41b2o$9b3ob2obo3bo$11bo
4bo2b2o$13b3o31b2o$12b2o34bo$45b3o$45bo$57b2o$57bo$58b3o$60bo!
Two questions:
1) Is there a catalyst to remove the junk and complete a stable H splitter?
2) Is there another sparker that has better southern clearance to leave room for an eater 1 as in Fx77 or F117?

Useless variant of pure Bx106:

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x = 30, y = 48, rule = B3/S23
27bo$18b2o5b3o$18b2o4bo$24b2o2$8bo$8bo14b2o$6b3o9b2o3b2o$6bo11b2o7$2o$
bo21b2o$bobo18bobo$2b2o18b2o$26b2o$26bobo$28bo$28b2o3$2bo$2bobo$2b3o$
4bo12$12b2ob2o$11bobobobo$9b3o3bobo$8bo4bobob3o$9b3ob2obo3bo$11bo4bo2b
2o$13b3o$12b2o!

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Re: The Hunting of the Periodic Herschel Conduits

Post by Jormungant » September 27th, 2022, 3:22 pm

GUYTU6J wrote:
September 26th, 2022, 6:22 am
Useless variant of pure Bx106:

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x = 30, y = 48, rule = B3/S23
27bo$18b2o5b3o$18b2o4bo$24b2o2$8bo$8bo14b2o$6b3o9b2o3b2o$6bo11b2o7$2o$
bo21b2o$bobo18bobo$2b2o18b2o$26b2o$26bobo$28bo$28b2o3$2bo$2bobo$2b3o$
4bo12$12b2ob2o$11bobobobo$9b3o3bobo$8bo4bobob3o$9b3ob2obo3bo$11bo4bo2b
2o$13b3o$12b2o!
Limited use indeed, but I noted that one can remove the eater that manages the natural block from the hershel, and that this unlikely connection works:

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x = 68, y = 72, rule = LifeHistory
7$21.D$20.3D$19.2D2BD4.2A$18.6B5.A$18.6B2.3A$17.9BA$16.9B$16.9B$16.9B
$16.9B$15.11B$15.11B$14.12B$13.14B4.B26.A$12.4B.10B3.3B16.2A5.3A$11.
16B2.6B14.2A4.A$10.17B.7B2.4B14.2A$9.4B.27B$8.4B2.25BDB$7.4B3.23BDBDB
13.2A$7.3B3.21B2AB3DB8.2A3.2A$7.2B4.21B2ABD3B8.2A$7.B4.29B$13.26B$14.
20B2.B$11.B.B.20B$10.2A24B$10.2A25B$11.2B.12B2.5B.4B$13.13B3.4B2.4B
15.2A$11.B.11B12.4B13.A.A$10.2A12B13.4B12.2A$10.2AB.10B14.3B16.2A$11.
B4.6B.B2A13.2B16.A.A$18.4B.BA.A13.B18.A$16.5B5.A32.2A$16.2A8.2A$17.A$
14.3A16.C$14.A18.C.C$33.3C$35.C12$43.2A.2A$42.A.A.A.A$40.3A3.A.A$39.A
4.A.A.3A$40.3A.2A.A3.A$42.A4.A2.2A$44.3A$43.2A!
works with 2 other h-to-b, but the init H is difficult to attach to in all cases...

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Re: The Hunting of the Periodic Herschel Conduits

Post by Entity Valkyrie 2 » October 5th, 2022, 7:03 am

Useless pi-to-H:

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x = 52, y = 30, rule = B3/S23
5b2o$5bobo9bobo$6b2o9bobo$2b2o13b3o11bo$bobo27bo$bo29b3o3b2o$2o31bo3b
2o3$8bo$7bobo$6bo2bo$7b2o8bo26b2o$16bobo25bobob2obo$15bobo28bobob2o$
13b3o2b3o3b2o20b2o$12bo3b2o3bo2b2o$13b3o2b2obo$15bobo2bo24b2o$16bobo
26b2o$17bo2$39b2o$34b2o3b2o4b2o3b2o$35bo9b3o2b2o$32b3o8b2obo$32bo8bo3b
o$40bo4bo$40bo3bo$41bo!
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Re: The Hunting of the Periodic Herschel Conduits

Post by C28 » November 2nd, 2022, 1:40 pm

p46 Herschel to U-turner

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x = 40, y = 11, rule = B3/S23
18b2o2bobo$17b3obo3bo12b2o$3o13b2o6bo13b2o$bo15bob5o$b3o14b3o2$18b3o$
17bob5o$11b2o3b2o6bo13b2o$11b2o4b3obo3bo12b2o$18b2o2bobo!
a middleweight sparker with a period of 8 or more can replace the twin bees shuttle, but every one i've tried thus far gets destroyed by a stray dot spark.
- Christopher D'Agostino

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x = 11, y = 15, rule = B3/S23
9bo$8bobo$8bobo$9bo8$b3o$b3o$obo$2o!
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Re: The Hunting of the Periodic Herschel Conduits

Post by Jormungant » November 2nd, 2022, 5:47 pm

C28 wrote:
November 2nd, 2022, 1:40 pm
p46 Herschel to U-turner

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x = 40, y = 11, rule = B3/S23
18b2o2bobo$17b3obo3bo12b2o$3o13b2o6bo13b2o$bo15bob5o$b3o14b3o2$18b3o$
17bob5o$11b2o3b2o6bo13b2o$11b2o4b3obo3bo12b2o$18b2o2bobo!
a middleweight sparker with a period of 8 or more can replace the twin bees shuttle, but every one i've tried thus far gets destroyed by a stray dot spark.
It works with an p32 oscillator too, and, while I am not sure it is a first, it seems this allows a full fledged periodic circuit with valid input and output for that infamously difficult to manage u-turner:

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x = 149, y = 64, rule = LifeHistory
6$60.2A5.2A$60.2A5.2A3$7.2A5.2A$7.2A5.2A4$106.B4$108.4B2.2B2A4.B2A4.
4B$60.A7.A39.3B3.B.A7.A.B3.3B$59.A.A5.A.A36.2B2AB.B.B2.3A.3A2.B3.B2A
2B$62.A3.A9.16B14.2B2ABAB.B4.A.A4.B2.AB2A2B$59.A2.A3.A2.A5.15B17.4B.A
6.3B6.A.4B$7.A7.A44.A.A3.A.A.2B4.2A13B18.A.4B2.7B2.4B.A$6.A.A5.A.A45.
2A.2A4.B4.2A14B18.AB2A2B.7B.2B2ABA$9.A3.A45.2A.2A.2A.2AB5.15B20.B2A
13B2AB$6.A2.A3.A2.A42.2A2.A.A2.2AB6.11B23.3B2.9B2.3B$7.A.A3.A.A.2B41.
3A3.3A.B7.4BD3B26.2B.11B.2B$9.2A.2A4.B42.A5.A2.B7.3B3D2B28.13B$6.2A.
2A.2A.2AB5.B46.B7.2B2D2BD4.2A24.2B3AB3A2B$6.2A2.A.A2.2AB5.B46.B8.6B4.
A23.2AB.7B.B2A$7.3A3.3A.B4.BA46.B8.6B.BA.A22.A.AB.2B3A2B.BA.A$8.A5.A
2.B5.3A12.A21.2A8.B9.5B.B2A23.A4.3BA3B4.A6.D$17.B8.A9.3A21.2A8.B9.7B
24.2A4.2BABA2B4.2A4.3D$17.B7.2A8.A34.4B6.6B31.3BA3B9.2D2BD4.2A$17.B7.
4B4.B.2A29.D.D.3B7.6B30.4BA3B8.6B4.A$7.2A8.B7.6B2A4B30.D10.7B4.B26.8B
8.6B.BA.A$7.2A8.B8.5B2A2B44.6B.B.2BA24.9B7.7B.B2A$17.5B4.11B41.11BA.A
23.9B8.8B$13.D.D.3B6.12B40.5BD4B.BA24.13B4.7B$14.D10.13B37.2D2.3B3D3B
29.2BDBD.3B6.7B$26.11B28.C7.2D.D3.2BD5B32.D10.7B4.B$25.12B.B26.C.C5.
3D5.4B.B45.6B.B.2BA$25.5BD7B2A25.3C5.2D56.11BA.A$22.2D2.3B3D6B2A27.C
63.5BD4B.BA$12.C7.2D.D3.2BD7B.B46.2A.A39.2D2.3B3D3B$12.C.C5.3D5.9B48.
2AB3A27.C7.2D.D3.2BD5B$12.3C5.2D69.A26.C.C5.3D5.4B.B$14.C60.BA3.2A3.
2A.3A27.3C5.2D$32.2A.A38.2A.B2.A5.A.A31.C$32.2AB3A36.B.2A3.3A2.A.A49.
2A.A$38.A36.AB6.A3.A50.2AB3A$22.BA3.2A3.2A.3A106.A$21.2A.B2.A5.A.A92.
BA3.2A3.2A.3A$21.B.2A3.3A2.A.A91.2A.B2.A5.A.A$22.AB6.A3.A92.B.2A3.3A
2.A.A$128.AB6.A3.A2$131.D!
I did look into your collection, but that h-to-u-to-r-to-g is all I saw could work, but if you keep on looking there might be more periodic circuits, we have a lot of sparky p32 oscillators now, atop of "classical" p46 and p30 ones.

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Re: The Hunting of the Periodic Herschel Conduits

Post by hotcrystal0 » November 2nd, 2022, 6:19 pm

This reaction might be useful.

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x = 15, y = 19, rule = B3/S23
3bo$3bobo$3b3o$5bo5$2bo2b5o2bo$bo2b2o3b2o2bo$bo11bo$3bo2bobo2bo$b2obo
5bob2o$bob2ob3ob2obo$o4bobobo4bo$b3obobobob3o$3bob2obo2bo$8bobo$8b2o!

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x = 192, y = 53, rule = B3/S23
33$42b4o$41b6o$40b2ob4o$41b2o3$41b2o$39bo6bo$38bo8bo$38bo8bo$38b9o3$42b
4o$41b6o$40b2ob4o$41b2o!

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Re: The Hunting of the Periodic Herschel Conduits

Post by C28 » November 2nd, 2022, 7:13 pm

Jormungant wrote:
November 2nd, 2022, 5:47 pm
I did look into your collection, but that h-to-u-to-r-to-g is all I saw could work
an H-to-U-to-G

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x = 48, y = 29, rule = B3/S23
18bobo2b2o$3b2o12bo3bob3o4b2o$3b2o13bo6b2o3b2o$19b5obo$22b3o2$22b3o14b
3o$19b5obo15bo$3b2o13bo6b2o13b3o$3b2o12bo3bob3o$18bobo2b2o7$46bo$45bo
bo$46bo$2o12b4o5b3o$2o12bob2o7bo$14bo7bob2o$15b2o5b2o2$15b2o5b2o$14bo
7bob2o$2o12bob2o7b4o$2o12b4o5b6o!
i believe that a few other ones could be made.
Jormungant wrote:
November 2nd, 2022, 5:47 pm
but if you keep on looking there might be more periodic circuits, we have a lot of sparky p32 oscillators now, atop of "classical" p46 and p30 ones.
i've been thinking of testing U-turner+twin bee shuttle interactions for a while now

also, i just found that an obo! spark parent can catalyse the H into a U-turner as well

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x = 11, y = 8, rule = B3/S23
3b3o$2bo2bo$2b2o2bo$5b2o2b2o$8b3o$2bo5b2o$2o$b2o!
edit: p30 version with amazing clearance

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x = 21, y = 25, rule = B3/S23
2b2o6b2o$bo2bo4bo2bo$6o2b6o$bo2bo4bo2bo$2b2o6b2o$19b2o$16b2o2bo$15b2o
b2o$9bo5b2o$8bo6b2o$10bo4b2ob2o$7bo3bo4b2o2bo$7b3o9b2o9$6bo$4bobo$4b3o
$4bo!
it can even connect to UR36C

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x = 24, y = 25, rule = B3/S23
5b2o6b2o$4bo2bo4bo2bo$3b6o2b6o$4bo2bo4bo2bo$5b2o6b2o$22b2o$19b2o2bo$18b
2ob2o$12bo5b2o$3bo7bo6b2o$b3o9bo4b2ob2o$o9bo3bo4b2o2bo$2o8b3o9b2o9$9b
o$7bobo$7b3o$7bo!
- Christopher D'Agostino

adopted father of the U-turner

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x = 11, y = 15, rule = B3/S23
9bo$8bobo$8bobo$9bo8$b3o$b3o$obo$2o!
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