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Re: Thread for your speculative elementary conduits
Posted: September 26th, 2023, 6:58 am
by confocaloid
Haycat2009 wrote: ↑September 26th, 2023, 6:55 am
Can anyone help complete this partial HR(x)74B conduit? The topmost block turns into a tail, but none of the replacement catalysts for that situation work. Alternatively, is there a way to turn that beehive back to a block with a stable catalyst? (Shown with BFx59H)
Code: Select all
x = 12, y = 24, rule = B3/S23
3b2o$3b2o8$2bo$2bobo$2b3o5b2o$4bo5b2o7$7b2obo$7bob2o2$2o$2o!
Pseudo-stable R133 (HR133H) using the trick from
p8 glider reflector:
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x = 14, y = 53, rule = B3/S23
4b2o$4b2o3$3bo$4b2o$4bo$4o$b2o$2o$2o$2o3b2o$5b2o8$4bo$4bobo$4b3o5b2o$
6bo5b2o7$9b2obo$9bob2o2$2b2o$2b2o16$b3o$bo$2o!
p1064 oscillator with p133 H/B loop:
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x = 70, y = 70, rule = B3/S23
50b2o$50b2o3$49bo$50b2o$50bo$46b4o$47b2o$46b2o$22b2o22b2o$22b2o6b2o14b
2o3b2o$31bo19b2o$30bo$30b2o3$11b2o8b3o$2o3bo5b2o9bo$2o3b2o13b3o$4bo2bo
25b2o15bo$7b2o24b2o15bobo$7b5o38b3o5b2o$7bob3o40bo5b2o7$55b2obo$55bob
2o2$48b2o$48b2o$20b2o$20b2o2$11b2obo$11bob2o7$10b2o5bo40b3obo$10b2o5b
3o38b5o$17bobo15b2o24b2o$19bo15b2o25bo2bo$47b3o13b2o3b2o$47bo9b2o5bo3b
2o$46b3o8b2o3$38b2o$39bo$17b2o19bo$17b2o3b2o14b2o6b2o$22b2o22b2o$22b2o
$21b2o$20b4o$19bo$18b2o$20bo3$18b2o$18b2o!
Edit: the partial was posted in
viewtopic.php?p=16662#p16662
Edit 2: tag: HRx74B
viewtopic.php?p=152194#p152194
Re: Thread for your speculative elementary conduits
Posted: September 26th, 2023, 7:28 am
by Entity Valkyrie 2
confocaloid wrote: ↑September 26th, 2023, 6:58 am
Haycat2009 wrote: ↑September 26th, 2023, 6:55 am
Can anyone help complete this partial HR(x)74B conduit? The topmost block turns into a tail, but none of the replacement catalysts for that situation work. Alternatively, is there a way to turn that beehive back to a block with a stable catalyst? (Shown with BFx59H)
Pseudo-stable R133 (HR133H) using the trick from
p8 glider reflector:
p1064 oscillator with p133 H/B loop:
Edit: the partial was posted in
viewtopic.php?p=16662#p16662
Edit 2: tag: HRx74B
viewtopic.php?p=152194#p152194
This was already known, since it had been in my
2022 oscillator stamp collection.
Re: Thread for your speculative elementary conduits
Posted: September 26th, 2023, 9:52 am
by affamatodidio
These reactions could lead somewhere.
Code: Select all
x = 213, y = 32, rule = B3/S23
111bo$22b2o86bobob2o$22bobo85bob2obo$24bo84b2o$20b4ob2o81bo3b6o42b2o$
20bo2bobobo81b3o6bo41bo2b2o$25bobo83bob2obo2bo41bobobo$25bo2b2o82bobo
b2obo40b2o3bo46bo$24b2o4bo84bo3bob2o37bo2bobobo42b3o$26b5o66b2o17b2ob
o2bo38b2obob2o41bo$26bo4b2o64b2o18bobobo40bobo44b2o$29b2o2bo82bo2bob2o
38bo2bo$30bob2o83b2o4bo38b2ob2o$30bo87bob3o40bobo41b2o$29b2o87bobo42b
obo40bo2bo$bo44bo44bo27bo16bo27bo16bo25b2o$obo16b2o24bobo16b2o24bobo16b
2o24bobo16b2o24bobo16b2o8b3o$bo16b2o26bo16b2o26bo16b2o26bo16b2o26bo16b
2o7b2o2bo$19bo44bo44bo44bo44bo8bo$207bo$207b2o4$63bo$59b2obobob2o$60b
obobobo$57b3o2bobobo$57bo4bob2o$63bo$61bobo$61b2o!
Re: Thread for your speculative elementary conduits
Posted: September 26th, 2023, 10:12 am
by confocaloid
affamatodidio wrote: ↑September 26th, 2023, 9:52 am
These reactions could lead somewhere.
The penultimate reaction could make a longboat factory, if there is a compact way to get the R-pentomino in
Code: Select all
x = 45, y = 33, rule = LifeHistory
35.2A$9.A7.2D13.A2.A$A8.3A5.2D4.2D5.3A3.3A$3A9.A10.D5.A3.3A3.A$3.A7.
2A8.D.D6.3A3.A.2A$2.2A17.2D9.A.2A$33.A.A.2A.A$36.2A.2A5$.C26.D$.C.C
13.A8.3D$.3C12.A.A8.D$3.C11.A2.A$16.2A2$13.2D$12.D.D$12.D$11.2D$43.D$
42.D.D$41.D.D$41.2D5$28.A$27.A.A$28.A!
Edit: something like this, but smaller:
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x = 151, y = 111, rule = LifeHistory
66.2A$62.2A.A.A9.A$63.A.A9.3A$63.A.2A7.A$60.2A.A.4B5.2A$60.A2.4A4BA4B
3.2A$61.2A2.BA3BABAB5.A.A$63.3A.2BA2BA2B.BA.A.3A$63.A4.2B2A3B.B2A5.A
23.2A$61.A.A4.9B6.2A23.A$61.2A5.9B6.4B18.BA.A$68.9B8.3B14.2A.B2A8.A$
67.3B2D2BDB2.B2.3B.4B12.B2A2B8.3A$66.4BD2B2D21B6.4B7.A$65.6BD2BD4B2A
11BD4B3.6B7.2A$64.7B3D5B2A9B3D4B2.6B9.2B$63.27BDBD4B.7B8.5B$62.4B2.
22BD15B7.6B13.2A$61.4B6.B.B.5B3.2B2.20B5.6B14.A8.2A$60.4B6.2BA2B.B13.
21B.7B2.6B2.BA.A5.A2.A$59.4B7.BABAB17.36B.B2A4.3A3.3A$58.4B3.2A3.BABA
B3.2A13.37B5.A3.3A3.A$57.4B4.A.BA3BA3BAB.A12.38B6.3A2.BAB2A$56.4B6.3A
B.3B.B3A13.40B6.A.2A2B$55.4B9.3B.B.3B13.2AB.3B2.33B6.BABA.2A.A$54.4B
6.7AB.B7A8.A.AB6.20B2.14B4.3B2A.2A$53.4B7.A2.B2.BA.AB2.B2.A8.A8.22B.
23B$52.4B9.A.A.2A3.2A.A.A8.2A8.11B2.32B$51.4B11.2A.A5.A.2A17.10B6.8B
2.21B$24.A25.4B17.A.A22.2A2.6B6.7B4.9B2D10B$22.3A24.4B17.2A.2A22.A3.B
.B8.2A9.8BD2BD9B$21.A26.4B42.3A5.3B8.A9.9B2D12B$10.A10.2A24.4B43.A6.B
2AB5.3A11.23B$9.A.A6.5B23.4B52.2A6.A13.23B$9.A.A5.4B24.4B74.26B$7.3A.
2A3.6B11.A10.4B74.27B$6.A4.B4.6B9.3A9.4B74.4B2.23B$A6.3AB2AB.7B8.A11.
4B74.4B2.24B$3A6.A.2AB2.6B.2B5.2A9.4B4.2A68.4B2.4B.20B$3.A7.21B8.4B4.
B2AB11.2A.A.2A48.4B2.4B4.18B$2.2A3.B5.17B9.4B6.3B4.A.2A.A2.A.2A2.A46.
4B2.4B5.11B.5BDB$2.8B2.15B2A2B7.4B6.B.B5.2A.A.2A.A4.A.A44.4B2.4B6.16B
DBD$4.22BA2BA2B5.4B7.5B8.B2.5A.A44.4B2.4B6.16BDBD$4.23B2A3B4.4B8.6B6.
2ABA4.A45.4B2.4B4.16B2.B2D$3.19B3.9B.4B9.8B4.2A.A.AB2.A43.4B2.4B4.13B
$.21B4.12B11.13B2.A.A2B.A15.2A24.4B2.4B5.12B$23B4.10B10.13B5.A2B.2A
15.A24.4B2.4B7.11B$BC14B4.4B3.9B10.15B3.3B16.BA.A23.4B2.4B9.10B$BCBC
4B.6B6.4B.9B11.15B3.2B14.2A.B2A23.4B2.4B12.3BA4B$B3C4B2.B.5B5.4B.7B
11.17B.4B12.B2A2B24.4B2.4B13.2BABA3B$3BC4B7.2A6.10B12.29B6.4B23.4B2.
4B16.BA2B$7B8.A8.4B.2B13.13B2A11BD4B3.6B22.4B2.4B17.4B$16.3A6.4B10.2A
2.14B2A9B3D4B2.6B22.4B2.4B19.2B$18.A7.4B9.A2.2AB3.20BDBD4B.7B21.4B2.
4B$27.4B9.2AB.A4.19BD15B19.4B2.4B$28.4B11.A5.6B3.B2.2B2.20B17.4B2.4B$
29.4B7.3A5.6B14.18B15.4B2.4B$30.4B5.A7.9B14.16B14.4B2.4B$31.4B4.2A5.
4B4.2A15.14B14.4B2.4B$32.9B4.4B5.A15.16B12.4B2.4B$33.6B5.4B7.3A12.14B
.B2A9.4B2.4B$33.8B2.4B10.A10.2AB.3B3.6B.BA.A7.4B2.4B$31.15B21.A.AB7.
6B4.A6.4B2.4B$31.14B22.A9.2B2D2BD4.2A4.4B2.4B$31.13B22.2A4.2A2.4B3DB
9.4B2.4B$29.2AB.10B28.A.A7BD4B6.4B2.4B$28.A.AB3.B2A3B30.A3.11B5.4B2.
4B$28.A6.B2A3B29.2A3.4B2A5B4.4B2.4B$27.2A6.4B37.3B2A5B3.4B2.4B$36.3B
37.10B2.4B2.4B$37.2B.BA35.9B.4B2.4B$36.B2ABA.A34.13B2.4B$35.BABABA.A
34.12B2.4B$33.A2.A.A.A.A.2A32.10B2.4B$33.4A.2A2.A2.A33.8B2.4B$37.A4.
2A35.7B2.4B$35.A.A41.6B2.4B$35.2A41.7B.4B$78.6B.4B$78.10B$77.10B$76.
10B$75.10B$74.10B$73.6B3D2B$72.4B.4BD2B$71.4B.4B3DB$70.14B$69.15B$68.
16B$67.16B$66.14B$64.17B$53.2A8.19B$52.A.A6.21B.B$43.2A7.BA7.22B2A.2A
$44.A8.2B5.21B.B.A.A$44.A.AB2.5B2.B.23BA.A.A.A$45.2AB.30B.B.2A3.2A$
47.33B$47.33B$47.34B$48.34BA$50.3B2.17B.7B2.3A$48.3B.B.8B.7B3.7B5.A$
48.2A3.6B5.5B4.7B4.2A$49.A3.4B8.4B6.5B$46.3A4.2B2AB7.4B7.2B.B2A$46.A
8.2A8.B2AB10.BA.A$66.2A14.A$82.2A!
Re: Thread for your speculative elementary conduits
Posted: September 26th, 2023, 2:42 pm
by Extrementhusiast
H-to-pi plus other usable junk:
Code: Select all
x = 29, y = 22, rule = LifeHistory
2A$A.A24.2D$2.3A22.D$.A3.A9.3D7.D.D$.2A.2A11.D7.2D$15.3D6$23.2D$23.D$
24.3D$22.C3.D$21.C.C$22.C2$9.3C7.2A$10.C8.A.A$10.3C8.A$21.2A!
These first two catalysts seem like they could also lead elsewhere.
Re: Thread for your speculative elementary conduits
Posted: September 26th, 2023, 2:53 pm
by AlbertArmStain
Extrementhusiast wrote: ↑September 26th, 2023, 2:42 pm
H-to-pi plus other usable junk:
Code: Select all
x = 29, y = 22, rule = LifeHistory
2A$A.A24.2D$2.3A22.D$.A3.A9.3D7.D.D$.2A.2A11.D7.2D$15.3D6$23.2D$23.D$
24.3D$22.C3.D$21.C.C$22.C2$9.3C7.2A$10.C8.A.A$10.3C8.A$21.2A!
These first two catalysts seem like they could also lead elsewhere.
For a second I thought that was the same reaction in the Herschel transmitter because it was orientated strangely.
Re: Thread for your speculative elementary conduits
Posted: September 26th, 2023, 8:36 pm
by yoleo
That partial has been noticed before as HRx74B: there is a clever pseudo stable solution from this post
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=4993&p=167836&hilit=HRx74B#p167836.
Code: Select all
x = 15, y = 24, rule = B3/S23
5b2o$5b2o3$5bo$4b3o$2b2ob2o$bo2bo$4bo2$o2bo$b2o3b2o$6b2o8$5bo$5bobo$5b
3o5b2o$7bo5b2o!
I'll try running barrister on it briefly and see if anything comes up
Re: Thread for your speculative elementary conduits
Posted: September 26th, 2023, 11:46 pm
by Entity Valkyrie 2
yoleo wrote: ↑September 26th, 2023, 8:36 pm
That partial has been noticed before as HRx74B: there is a clever pseudo stable solution from this post
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=4993&p=167836&hilit=HRx74B#p167836.
Code: Select all
x = 15, y = 24, rule = B3/S23
5b2o$5b2o3$5bo$4b3o$2b2ob2o$bo2bo$4bo2$o2bo$b2o3b2o$6b2o8$5bo$5bobo$5b
3o5b2o$7bo5b2o!
I'll try running barrister on it briefly and see if anything comes up
This was known from 2022, since the corresponding p1064 oscillators were in my 2022 oscillator collection.
Re: Thread for your speculative elementary conduits
Posted: October 5th, 2023, 9:50 pm
by yoleo
Is there anything that can be done about the pair of blocks? Each side of the reaction allows for a pi-to-B, so if one of the sides be coaxed into eliminating those blocks, it'd be a pi-to-B. And it does connect to conduit 1.
Code: Select all
x = 27, y = 56, rule = LifeHistory
10.3D$11.D$9.3D16$9.2E$9.2E8.A$18.A.A$3.A7.D6.A.A$.3A6.3D4.2A.3A$A8.
2DBDB4.B4.A$2A6.6B3.2AB3A$9.6B2.2A.A$8.11B$8.9B$9.9B$10.8B7.2A$8.11B
6.A$8.11B3.BA.A$7.10B3.3B2A$6.2D9B.6B$6.2D12B2AB$7.12BA2BA$9.3C8B2A$
10.BC7B$9.3C8B2A$7.12BA2BA$6.2D12B2AB$6.2D9B.6B$7.10B3.3B2A$8.11B3.BA
.A$8.11B6.A$10.8B7.2A$9.9B$8.9B$8.11B$9.6B2.2A.A$8.6B3.2AB3A$9.2DBDB
4.B4.A$10.3D4.2A.3A$11.D6.A.A$18.A.A$19.A!
I came across that pair of transparent beehives when running barrister searches on symmetric regions--I believe I've seen it before, but I'm not sure it's well-known.
Re: Thread for your speculative elementary conduits
Posted: October 9th, 2023, 10:19 pm
by yoleo
Recent finds from running barrister on the start of the speed tunnel:
top row: G-to-octomino, a few G-to-edgy-beehive (with the known one for comparison), and a G-to-2 blocks.
middle row: near misses on a stable reflector. Two where the glider crashes into a catalyst, and one where there's a block left behind.
bottom row: G-to-driftiness. Maybe a G-to-wire-signal with a bit more work.
Code: Select all
x = 149, y = 113, rule = LifeHistory
138.A5.2A$21.2A115.3A3.A2.2A$20.A2.A117.A3.2A.A$20.A.2A116.2A4.A$18.B
2A119.3B.B.A$9.D5.B.2B3.2A20.3B5.2A21.2B8.2A48.2B5.2BA.A.A$8.3D8B3A2.
A18.4B5.A21.4B7.A48.B2DB3.2BA.A.2A$7.BDBD6B.BA2.A.A18.5B.BA.A20.7B2.B
A.A47.2B2D6BA.A$7.3B2D7B2.A.A19.5B.B2A19.9B2.B2A46.12B.2A$7.12B3.A11.
B8.7B14.B4.15B8.3D15.2A2.3D13.12B$6.14B13.3B6.8B13.3B.3B2D11B9.D17.A
5.D10.5B2D9B$5.14B4.A.A7.4B4.8B4.2A8.6BD2BD10B9.D14.A3.3A2.D9.6B2D8B$
4.15B3.A.2A8.15B3.A.A9.6B2D9B11.D8.3B3.4A3.A.D9.14B$.18B3.A11.2D13B3.
A11.16B12.D7.2D5B3.B.A.A.D9.13B$2.18B.2A10.D2BD13B.2A11.16B12.D6.D2BD
6B2AB2A2.D9.14B$2.19B13.2D15B14.16B11.D5.2B2D7B2A5.D9.15B$4.17B3.2A9.
16B3.2A11.14B11.D5.11B3.2A2.D10.14B$9.3BC8B.B2.A13.3BC8B.B2.A13.3BC8B
11.D6.3BC6B4.A2.D11.4BC8B$9.4BC8B3A15.3BC8B3A14.4BC6B12.D7.3BC5B3.A3.
D11.5BC6B$9.2B3C6B.BA18.3C6B.BA17.B3C6B12.D8.3C6B2.2A2.D12.2B3C6B$10.
10B3.2A16.9B3.2A16.9B12.D8.9B6.D13.10B$11.9B4.A16.9B4.A16.9B12.D8.9B
6.D14.9B$11.2B2A3B.B2A2.A.2A13.2B2A3B.B2A2.A.2A13.2B2A3B.B2A10.D8.2B
2A3B.B2A4.D14.2B2A3B.B2A$9.3BA2BA2B.BA.A.A.2A11.3BA2BA2B.BA.A.A.2A11.
3BA2BA2B.BA.A9.D6.3BA2BA2B.BA.A3.D12.3BA2BA2B.BA.A$8.2A3BABAB5.A.A13.
2A3BABAB5.A.A13.2A3BABAB5.A9.D5.2A3BABAB5.A3.D11.2A3BABAB5.A$4.2A.A.A
B.2BA4B3.A.A9.2A.A.AB.2BA4B3.A.A12.A.AB.2BA4B3.2A8.D.2A.A.AB.2BA4B3.
2A2.D10.A.AB.2BA4B3.2A$5.A.A.2B6.2A4.A11.A.A.2B6.2A4.A13.A.2B6.2A13.D
2.A.A.2B6.2A7.D10.A.2B6.2A$4.A2.2AB7.A16.A2.2AB7.A17.A.2AB7.A14.D.A2.
2AB7.A8.D8.A.2AB7.A$5.2A2.B8.3A14.2A2.B8.3A13.A.A2.B8.3A11.D2.2A2.B8.
3A5.D7.A.A2.B8.3A$7.2A11.A16.2A11.A13.A2.2A11.A11.D4.2A11.A5.D7.A2.2A
11.A$7.A29.A27.A.A24.D4.A18.D8.A.A$8.A29.A25.2A2.A23.D5.A17.D7.2A2.A$
7.2A28.2A28.2A23.D4.2A17.D10.2A$92.3D19.3D8$7.A13.2A$7.3A10.A2.A15.2A
$10.A9.A.2A16.A5.2A16.2A$9.2A3.2D2.B2A17.A8.A17.A$9.4BDBD.2B3.2A14.5A
.3A18.A.A15.A$.B9.4BD3B3A2.A6.B10.A.A21.2A13.3A$.2B7.7B.BA2.A.A6.2B5.
2A2.BA36.A$.3B6.9B2.A.A7.3B5.A2.3B35.2A$.4B5.9B3.A8.4B4.A.A5B30.5B$2.
4B4.10B12.4B4.2A6B29.3B$3.16B4.A.A7.4B5.2B3DB5.2A18.2D.6B$.B2.15B3.A.
2A8.4B4.2BD3B4.A.A18.DBD7B$2AB.15B3.A12.4B3.3BD2B4.A20.D9B$2A18B.2A
13.4B2.8B.2A21.9B3.2A$.20B16.14B13.B3.14B3.A.A$.20B3.2A12.13B3.2A7.2A
B.15B3.A$3.B5.3BC8B.B2.A13.3BC8B.B2.A7.2A7BC10B.2A$10.3BC8B3A15.3BC8B
3A9.9BC10B$11.3C6B.BA18.3C6B.BA11.7B3C10B3.2A$11.9B3.2A16.9B3.2A11.B
5.4B2D6B.B2.A$11.9B4.A16.9B4.A18.3B2D7B3A$11.2B2A3B.B2A2.A.2A13.2B2A
3B.B2A2.A.2A16.9B.BA$9.3BA2BA2B.BA.A.A.2A11.3BA2BA2B.BA.A.A.2A16.9B3.
2A$8.2A3BABAB5.A.A13.2A3BABAB5.A.A19.9B4.A2.A$4.2A.A.AB.2BA4B3.A.A9.
2A.A.AB.2BA4B3.A.A19.2B2A3B.B2A2.A.A.A$5.A.A.2B6.2A4.A11.A.A.2B6.2A4.
A18.3BA2BA2B.BA.A.A.A.A$4.A2.2AB7.A16.A2.2AB7.A23.2A3BABAB5.A.A.2A$5.
2A2.B8.3A14.2A2.B8.3A16.2A.A.AB.2BA4B3.2A$7.2A11.A16.2A11.A17.A.A.2B
6.2A$7.A29.A29.A2.2AB7.A$8.A29.A29.2A2.B8.3A$7.2A28.2A31.2A11.A$70.A$
71.A$70.2A$25.2A$26.A$18.2A2.A.A$16.A2.4A.2A$12.A.4A7.B$12.2A4.3A4.4B
2.2A$15.2A3.AB2.2B2ABA2.A$10.5A2.3A2B.2BABAB3A$10.A3.A.A2.3BAB.A.A$
11.A2.BABAB.B.4A.3A$10.2A3.BA3B.B4.A3.A$16.4B2.3A.A2.A$14.5B4.A2.A.A$
13.5B3.A3.A.A$12.7B2.2A3.A$8.B2.8B$5.14B$4.15B$4.16B$4.17B$2.2AB2.14B
$.A.AB4.3BC8B$.A8.3BC6B$2A9.3C6B$11.9B$11.9B$11.2B2A3B.B2A$9.3BA2BA2B
.BA.A$8.2A3BABAB5.A$4.2A.A.AB.2BA4B3.2A$5.A.A.2B6.2A$4.A2.2AB7.A$5.2A
2.B8.3A$7.2A11.A$7.A$8.A$7.2A!
Some of these perhaps belong in a different thread, but I'd rather write 1 post instead of 3. I'm guessing one of those edgy beehives can be made into a Gn-to-H, so it fits well enough.
Re: Thread for your speculative elementary conduits
Posted: October 10th, 2023, 3:52 pm
by AlbertArmStain
Here are some starting conduits that have been proven to be very robust but haven't been used much (with one exception):
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x = 474, y = 190, rule = LifeHistory
84.2A$85.A$85.A.A$81.A.2A.A.A.2A.A$81.2A.A.A.A.A.2A212.2A$86.A.A217.A
$85.2A.2A217.3A$309.A3.2A$313.2A2$384.2A82.2A$384.A.A2.2A77.2A$381.A4.
A3.A81.A$16.2A363.5A.3A78.5A$16.A368.A.A79.A$13.A4.A2.2A358.3A.A.A80.
A.3A$13.5A.A2.A357.A2.A.2A82.2A2.A$19.2A.A.2A354.2A90.2A$11.4A.3A3.A2.
A222.2A214.2A$11.A2.A.A3.2A.A147.2A73.A2.A214.2A2.2A$21.A.2A145.A2.A72.
3A219.2A$21.A149.3A$20.2A224.3A$170.A.2A72.A2.A$170.2A2.A73.2A$173.2A
2$.C74.C74.C74.C74.C74.C74.C$.C.C72.C.C72.C.C72.C.C72.C.C72.C.C72.C.C
$.3C72.3C72.3C72.3C72.3C72.3C72.3C$3.C74.C74.C74.C74.C74.C74.C72$.C74.
C74.C74.C74.C$.C.C72.C.C72.C.C72.C.C72.C.C$.3C72.3C16.2A54.3C72.3C72.
3C$3.C74.C16.A57.C74.C74.C$93.A.A$16.2A66.A8.2A$16.A.A64.A.A2.A73.A$18.
A65.A3.3A70.A.A$17.2A.2A69.A69.A.A$16.A2.A.A64.4A.3A68.A$16.3A67.A2.A
4.A62.A9.A$13.A77.3A62.A.A7.A.A$13.4A73.2A63.A.A4.A4.A.A134.2A$16.A138.
A5.A.A5.A134.A.A$15.A140.A4.A.A4.A132.2A.A2.A$15.2A136.3A2.A3.A3.A2.3A
61.2A4.A3.2A56.A2.3A.A$152.A3.3A7.3A3.A59.A.A3.A.A3.A58.A3.2A$152.3A15.
3A59.A2.2A2.A3.A58.2A.A$155.6A3.6A63.2A2.2A3.A61.A.3A$154.A6.A.A6.A65.
A2.4A.A59.A3.A$155.A.A.2A3.2A.A.A67.A.A3.A.A57.2A$156.2A.A5.A.2A69.A3.
A2.A$161.A.A79.2A$160.2A.2A31$80.A$80.3A$83.A$82.A$81.A$81.2A6$A10.2A
62.A74.A74.A$3A9.A62.3A72.3A72.3A$3.A8.A.2A62.A74.A23.A50.A$2.2A9.A.A
61.2A73.2A21.3A49.2A$174.A$175.A$173.A.A$173.2A$19.2A$19.2A$.C74.C74.
C21.2A51.C$.C.C72.C.C72.C.C19.2A51.C.C$.3C72.3C72.3C72.3C$3.C74.C74.C
74.C4$242.2A$242.A.A$244.A$242.A.2A$242.2A2.A$245.2A!
yoleo wrote: ↑October 9th, 2023, 10:19 pm
Recent finds from running barrister on the start of the speed tunnel:
top row: G-to-octomino, a few G-to-edgy-beehive (with the known one for comparison), and a G-to-2 blocks.
middle row: near misses on a stable reflector. Two where the glider crashes into a catalyst, and one where there's a block left behind.
bottom row: G-to-driftiness. Maybe a G-to-wire-signal with a bit more work.
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x = 149, y = 113, rule = LifeHistory
138.A5.2A$21.2A115.3A3.A2.2A$20.A2.A117.A3.2A.A$20.A.2A116.2A4.A$18.B
2A119.3B.B.A$9.D5.B.2B3.2A20.3B5.2A21.2B8.2A48.2B5.2BA.A.A$8.3D8B3A2.
A18.4B5.A21.4B7.A48.B2DB3.2BA.A.2A$7.BDBD6B.BA2.A.A18.5B.BA.A20.7B2.B
A.A47.2B2D6BA.A$7.3B2D7B2.A.A19.5B.B2A19.9B2.B2A46.12B.2A$7.12B3.A11.
B8.7B14.B4.15B8.3D15.2A2.3D13.12B$6.14B13.3B6.8B13.3B.3B2D11B9.D17.A
5.D10.5B2D9B$5.14B4.A.A7.4B4.8B4.2A8.6BD2BD10B9.D14.A3.3A2.D9.6B2D8B$
4.15B3.A.2A8.15B3.A.A9.6B2D9B11.D8.3B3.4A3.A.D9.14B$.18B3.A11.2D13B3.
A11.16B12.D7.2D5B3.B.A.A.D9.13B$2.18B.2A10.D2BD13B.2A11.16B12.D6.D2BD
6B2AB2A2.D9.14B$2.19B13.2D15B14.16B11.D5.2B2D7B2A5.D9.15B$4.17B3.2A9.
16B3.2A11.14B11.D5.11B3.2A2.D10.14B$9.3BC8B.B2.A13.3BC8B.B2.A13.3BC8B
11.D6.3BC6B4.A2.D11.4BC8B$9.4BC8B3A15.3BC8B3A14.4BC6B12.D7.3BC5B3.A3.
D11.5BC6B$9.2B3C6B.BA18.3C6B.BA17.B3C6B12.D8.3C6B2.2A2.D12.2B3C6B$10.
10B3.2A16.9B3.2A16.9B12.D8.9B6.D13.10B$11.9B4.A16.9B4.A16.9B12.D8.9B
6.D14.9B$11.2B2A3B.B2A2.A.2A13.2B2A3B.B2A2.A.2A13.2B2A3B.B2A10.D8.2B
2A3B.B2A4.D14.2B2A3B.B2A$9.3BA2BA2B.BA.A.A.2A11.3BA2BA2B.BA.A.A.2A11.
3BA2BA2B.BA.A9.D6.3BA2BA2B.BA.A3.D12.3BA2BA2B.BA.A$8.2A3BABAB5.A.A13.
2A3BABAB5.A.A13.2A3BABAB5.A9.D5.2A3BABAB5.A3.D11.2A3BABAB5.A$4.2A.A.A
B.2BA4B3.A.A9.2A.A.AB.2BA4B3.A.A12.A.AB.2BA4B3.2A8.D.2A.A.AB.2BA4B3.
2A2.D10.A.AB.2BA4B3.2A$5.A.A.2B6.2A4.A11.A.A.2B6.2A4.A13.A.2B6.2A13.D
2.A.A.2B6.2A7.D10.A.2B6.2A$4.A2.2AB7.A16.A2.2AB7.A17.A.2AB7.A14.D.A2.
2AB7.A8.D8.A.2AB7.A$5.2A2.B8.3A14.2A2.B8.3A13.A.A2.B8.3A11.D2.2A2.B8.
3A5.D7.A.A2.B8.3A$7.2A11.A16.2A11.A13.A2.2A11.A11.D4.2A11.A5.D7.A2.2A
11.A$7.A29.A27.A.A24.D4.A18.D8.A.A$8.A29.A25.2A2.A23.D5.A17.D7.2A2.A$
7.2A28.2A28.2A23.D4.2A17.D10.2A$92.3D19.3D8$7.A13.2A$7.3A10.A2.A15.2A
$10.A9.A.2A16.A5.2A16.2A$9.2A3.2D2.B2A17.A8.A17.A$9.4BDBD.2B3.2A14.5A
.3A18.A.A15.A$.B9.4BD3B3A2.A6.B10.A.A21.2A13.3A$.2B7.7B.BA2.A.A6.2B5.
2A2.BA36.A$.3B6.9B2.A.A7.3B5.A2.3B35.2A$.4B5.9B3.A8.4B4.A.A5B30.5B$2.
4B4.10B12.4B4.2A6B29.3B$3.16B4.A.A7.4B5.2B3DB5.2A18.2D.6B$.B2.15B3.A.
2A8.4B4.2BD3B4.A.A18.DBD7B$2AB.15B3.A12.4B3.3BD2B4.A20.D9B$2A18B.2A
13.4B2.8B.2A21.9B3.2A$.20B16.14B13.B3.14B3.A.A$.20B3.2A12.13B3.2A7.2A
B.15B3.A$3.B5.3BC8B.B2.A13.3BC8B.B2.A7.2A7BC10B.2A$10.3BC8B3A15.3BC8B
3A9.9BC10B$11.3C6B.BA18.3C6B.BA11.7B3C10B3.2A$11.9B3.2A16.9B3.2A11.B
5.4B2D6B.B2.A$11.9B4.A16.9B4.A18.3B2D7B3A$11.2B2A3B.B2A2.A.2A13.2B2A
3B.B2A2.A.2A16.9B.BA$9.3BA2BA2B.BA.A.A.2A11.3BA2BA2B.BA.A.A.2A16.9B3.
2A$8.2A3BABAB5.A.A13.2A3BABAB5.A.A19.9B4.A2.A$4.2A.A.AB.2BA4B3.A.A9.
2A.A.AB.2BA4B3.A.A19.2B2A3B.B2A2.A.A.A$5.A.A.2B6.2A4.A11.A.A.2B6.2A4.
A18.3BA2BA2B.BA.A.A.A.A$4.A2.2AB7.A16.A2.2AB7.A23.2A3BABAB5.A.A.2A$5.
2A2.B8.3A14.2A2.B8.3A16.2A.A.AB.2BA4B3.2A$7.2A11.A16.2A11.A17.A.A.2B
6.2A$7.A29.A29.A2.2AB7.A$8.A29.A29.2A2.B8.3A$7.2A28.2A31.2A11.A$70.A$
71.A$70.2A$25.2A$26.A$18.2A2.A.A$16.A2.4A.2A$12.A.4A7.B$12.2A4.3A4.4B
2.2A$15.2A3.AB2.2B2ABA2.A$10.5A2.3A2B.2BABAB3A$10.A3.A.A2.3BAB.A.A$
11.A2.BABAB.B.4A.3A$10.2A3.BA3B.B4.A3.A$16.4B2.3A.A2.A$14.5B4.A2.A.A$
13.5B3.A3.A.A$12.7B2.2A3.A$8.B2.8B$5.14B$4.15B$4.16B$4.17B$2.2AB2.14B
$.A.AB4.3BC8B$.A8.3BC6B$2A9.3C6B$11.9B$11.9B$11.2B2A3B.B2A$9.3BA2BA2B
.BA.A$8.2A3BABAB5.A$4.2A.A.AB.2BA4B3.2A$5.A.A.2B6.2A$4.A2.2AB7.A$5.2A
2.B8.3A$7.2A11.A$7.A$8.A$7.2A!
I don't think I've seen the bottom drifter before, here's a reduction to it:
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x = 33, y = 37, rule = LifeHistory
24.2A$25.A$18.A.A3.A$17.A.2A3.2A$15.3A7.B$11.2A.A3.3A4.4B2.2A$11.A3.2A
3.AB2.2B2ABA2.A$12.3A2.3A2B.2BABAB3A$14.A.A2.3BAB.A.A$14.BABAB.B.4A.3A
$15.BA3B.B4.A3.A$16.4B2.3A.A2.2A$14.5B4.A.A$13.5B3.A$12.7B2.2A$8.B2.8B
$5.14B$4.15B$4.16B$4.17B$2.2AB2.14B$.A.AB4.3BC8B$.A8.3BC6B$2A9.3C6B$11.
9B$11.9B$11.2B2A3B.B2A$9.3BA2BA2B.BA.A$8.2A3BABAB5.A$4.2A.A.AB.2BA4B3.
2A$5.A.A.2B6.2A$4.A2.2AB7.A$5.2A2.B8.3A$7.2A11.A$7.A$8.A$7.2A!
A partial 175-tick Herschel conduit from Carson Cheng’s Catfore oscillator search:
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x = 30, y = 47, rule = LifeHistory
21.2A$20.A2.A$21.2A3.A$18.3A2.4A$17.A4.A$18.3A.A2.2A$20.A.A.A.3A$22.A
.A4.A$22.A.4A.A$21.2A4.2A$24.2A$5.A19.A.2A$5.3A17.A2.A$8.A17.2A$7.2A7$
6.C$6.C.C$6.3C16.2A$8.C16.A.A$27.A$27.2A11$D11.2A$3D9.2A$D.D$2.D3$21.
2A$21.A.A$23.A$23.2A!
Useless h-to-r + block:
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x = 20, y = 24, rule = LifeHistory
8.A5.2A$8.3A3.A.A$11.A4.A$10.2A3.A.2A$15.A.A.A$14.2A.A.A$18.A3$14.2D$
14.2D3$C$C.C12.D$3C10.3D$2.C11.D5$8.A$7.A.A$7.2A!
Re: Thread for your speculative elementary conduits
Posted: October 17th, 2023, 3:37 pm
by yoleo
A complete W-to-G. I'm not sure if it connects to anything, though: the left edge of the top catalyst causes problems.
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x = 26, y = 28, rule = LifeHistory
13.2A$13.A.A$15.A3.2A$11.4A4.A$11.A3.3A.A$13.BA2.2A$13.B2A2B$10.6B$9.
6B$9.6B$6.10B$5.13B$2.7B2C9B3.3D$10BC10B.3BD$8B2C14BD$.7BC16B$2.23B$
2.22B$4.20B$5.5B4.10B$6.3B6.8B$7.B8.5B$17.2B$15.4B$15.2A$16.A$13.3A$
13.A!
edit: a C-to-Pi that looks similarly unconnectable, this time due to output clearance.
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x = 23, y = 24, rule = LifeHistory
15.A2.A$15.4A2$13.4A$13.A3.A$9.2B3.B.2A$8.7B$7.9B2A$3.12BA.AB$2.13B2A
2B$2.15B.B2A$2.13B3.BA.A$.12B8.A$2.12B7.2A$.5B3C5B$.7BC6B$.4BCB2C6B$
5B2C9B$.16B$.16B3D$.16B2.D$2.4B.2B4.4B3D$4.B8.5B$15.B!
edit 2: If we had a version of HF157R that didn't emit the glider, this would be connectable, but alas. R's just don't like to form on the edge of the reaction envelope in this orientation. Neat catalyst though.
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x = 20, y = 16, rule = LifeHistory
3.2A2.2A$3.A4.A$2A.A4.A.2A.2A$A2.2AB3.A.A.A2.A$.2A2.2B3.2B3.2A$3.4A6B
$3.A2.BA5B$4.4A4B$7.6B$4.2A2.2BC6BD$4.A2.3B2C6BD$2.A.A3.B2C7B2D$2.2A
4.9B2D$9.8BD$10.B.5B$14.B!
Re: Thread for your speculative elementary conduits
Posted: October 18th, 2023, 7:12 am
by C28
yoleo wrote: ↑October 17th, 2023, 3:37 pm
A complete W-to-G. I'm not sure if it connects to anything, though: the left edge of the top catalyst causes problems.
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x = 26, y = 28, rule = LifeHistory
13.2A$13.A.A$15.A3.2A$11.4A4.A$11.A3.3A.A$13.BA2.2A$13.B2A2B$10.6B$9.
6B$9.6B$6.10B$5.13B$2.7B2C9B3.3D$10BC10B.3BD$8B2C14BD$.7BC16B$2.23B$
2.22B$4.20B$5.5B4.10B$6.3B6.8B$7.B8.5B$17.2B$15.4B$15.2A$16.A$13.3A$
13.A!
never seen that eater 1 replacement before. does anyone know if it's new?
Re: Thread for your speculative elementary conduits
Posted: October 24th, 2023, 7:39 pm
by Disaster16439
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x = 19, y = 21, rule = B3/S23
5b2o$5b2o3$16bo$16b3o$16bobo$18bo12$2o$2o!
Ugh, 2 cells away from a perfect conduit. Sad. Why I posted it here is because there might be a way to add a transparent object to shift the block back.
My 106th post!!
106=2x53
Re: Thread for your speculative elementary conduits
Posted: October 24th, 2023, 7:52 pm
by confocaloid
Disaster16439 wrote: ↑October 24th, 2023, 7:39 pm
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x = 19, y = 21, rule = B3/S23
5b2o$5b2o3$16bo$16b3o$16bobo$18bo12$2o$2o!
Ugh, 2 cells away from a perfect conduit.
Could be used as-is in a symmetric pattern:
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x = 85, y = 62, rule = LifeHistory
42.2A32.4B.4B$41.B2AB13.2A15.4B.4B$41.3B12.2B2AB13.4B.4B$42.B13.4B13.
4B.4B$40.5B11.5B5.10B.4B$39.2B3DB11.6B3.4BC5B.4B$39.3BD2B12.6B2.4B3C
2B.4B$39.B3D2B12.12BCBC6B$39.6B11.15BC5B$39.6B10.21B$39.6B9.21B$40.5B
8.21B$40.6B7.20B$39.6B8.19B$B38.7B6.19B$2B38.6B5.11B3.6B$3B37.6B6.19B
$4B36.6B5.21B$.4B34.8B3.22B$2.4B33.8B2.23B$3.4B32.14B2C2D15B$4.4B30.
15B2C2D14B$5.4B29.23B2.8B$6.4B28.22B3.8B$7.4B7.A19.21B5.6B$8.4B6.3A
18.19B6.6B$9.4B8.A17.6B3.11B5.6B$10.4B6.2A17.19B6.7B$11.4B5.6B12.19B
8.6B$12.4B6.5B10.20B7.6B$13.4B4.7B8.21B8.5B$14.4B2.8B7.21B9.6B$15.14B
2.2B.21B10.6B$16.22BD15B11.6B$12.2A3.21BDBD12B12.2B3DB$13.A4.20B3D4B
2.6B12.2BD3B$13.A.AB.22BD4B3.6B11.B3D2B$14.2A28B5.5B11.5B$15.17B.4B
13.4B13.B$17.19B13.B2A2B12.3B$8.A10.16B15.2A14.B2AB$8.3A8.15B33.2A$
11.A7.14B$10.2A3.B3.13B$10.8B.12B$12.18B$12.17B$11.17B$9.18B$7.19B$7.
2BC15B$6.3BCBC14B$7.2B3C13B$6.5BC5B3.5B$5.11B2.5B$4.4B3.4B3.2A$4.3B3.
4B5.A$2.4B3.4B3.3A$2.2A4.4B4.A$3.A3.4B$3A3.4B$A4.4B!
Re: Thread for your speculative elementary conduits
Posted: November 2nd, 2023, 11:50 am
by yoleo
Pi-to-B with bad input clearance. Can't find anything that connects. The first placement is the same as PF*81H in the ECC, so you'd think it'd connect to
something...
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x = 26, y = 26, rule = LifeHistory
4.A$3.A.A$3.A.A11.A$.3A.2A8.3A$A4.B8.A$.3AB2AB5.B2A$3.A.2AB.7B$5.9B$
6.8B$6.8B5.2A$5.10B2.BA.AB$6.B3C8B2A2B$9.C10B.B2A$6.B3C8B3.BA.A$5.13B
6.A$5.11B2E6.2A$4.9B.2B2E$5.12B$6.9B$6.9B$8.6B$9.5B$9.5B$9.BDB2D$10.
3D$11.D!
A compilation of other completed-but-bad-clearance results--I might've posted the first two of these before. Catalysts may not be reduced--please resist the urge to respond with stator minimizations.
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x = 404, y = 37, rule = LifeHistory
144.2A228.2A$143.B2AB5.2A219.B2AB5.2A$15.A2.A125.3B5.A81.2B29.2B107.
3B5.A$15.4A22.2A26.2A74.B3.BA.A80.4B5.2A20.3B37.2A38.2A29.B3.BA.A$41.
A.A20.2A2.A.A70.7B.B2A81.4B5.A20.5B.B34.A.A.2A34.A.A.2A21.7B.B2A10.2A
$13.4A26.A3.2A15.A3.A33.A7.2A28.10B82.6B.BA.A17.2B.8B35.A.2A36.A.2A
20.10B11.B2AB$13.A3.A21.4A4.A17.3A.4A29.3A6.A28.7B2AB82.6B.B2A17.2A
10B23.A10.BA27.A10.BA23.7B2EB12.3B$9.2B3.B.2A21.A3.3A.A19.A.A3.A31.A
2.3A29.6BA2BA81.9B19.2A10B23.3A6.2A.A.2A24.3A6.2A.A.2A20.6BE2BE11.B.B
$8.7B26.BA2.2A16.3ABA2B2.2A24.2A4.2A2.A29.2AB.5B2AB43.2B7.2A28.8B20.B
.9B26.A3.2B2AB2A.A27.A3.2B2AB2A.A18.2AB.5B2EB10.6B$7.9B2A23.B2A2B16.A
2.AB2A30.A4.3B.B28.A.AB.8B42.4B5.A.A28.8B22.10B24.2A3.7B.A.2A23.2A3.
7B.A.2A14.A.AB.8B10.6B$3.12BA.AB19.6B18.2A2.4B29.A.AB3.4B6.3B18.A4.8B
3.2B37.4B2.B2.BA7.A19.10B16.B.15B23.12B.A.2A23.12B.A.2A14.A4.8B3.2B5.
7B$2.13B2A2B18.6B23.4B30.2AB.7B.B.5BD16.2A5.12B33.B4.9B6.3A18.D9B12.
21B26.9B.2A28.9B.2A16.2A5.12B6.6B$2.15B.B2A16.6B23.6B30.8B.6B3DB22.
14B29.2D15B4.A20.2D10B9.D22B26.9B.A2.2A25.9B.A2.2A20.14B5.5B$2.13B3.B
A.A12.10B22.7B23.2A5.14BDBDB22.15B11.2A14.DBD14B4.2BA18.2D11B8.B3D19B
20.3B2.11B2.2A.A19.2B2.11B2.2A.A20.15B2.9B2.2B$.12B8.A11.13B19.9B22.A
2.AB2.B2C11BD3B20.18B5.2A4.A14.D8B2C10BA.A19.2D11B8.DBD19B18.17B25.
15B25.17B2.3B2E7B2A$2.12B7.2A7.7B2C9B3.3D11.2B3C4B23.3AB.C.BC15B18.
21B4.A.A.A16.2DBD3BC2BC10B2A21.12B10.D19B18.2B2C13B23.2B2C13B23.19B.
3BE2BE6B2A$.5B3C5B14.10BC10B.3BD11.4BC4B26.BC3BC15B18.2BC19B5.A.2A3.A
13.2D2BC3BC11B24.3C8B11.2B2.2B2.3C8B15.3D2B2C12B22.4B2C12B23.2BC21B2E
5B.2B$.7BC6B13.8B2C14BD10.3BCB2C6B17.2A.A.2AB.CBC17B16.3BCBC17B4.B2A
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.4BCB2C6B14.7BC16B10.3B2C8B17.A.2A.A3.BC19B16.2B3C17B5.2B.2A.A.A16.2B
C9B4.2A22.3C8B19.3C8B15.2D2BC4B2D7B23.3BC13B24.2B3C9BD14B$5B2C9B14.
23B10.2BD11B21.A4.19B16.5BC23B4.A.A17.11B5.A22.8B22.8B21.3D4B2D7B24.
6BD9B23.5BC8BDBD12B$.16B13.22B11.2BDBD9B21.2A7.10B22.8B.20B3.A20.8B8.
3A18.8B22.8B25.14B23.5B3D7B25.8B.7BD10B$.16B3D12.20B11.2B2D8B.B2A29.
5B24.4B8.21B2A21.6B11.A18.7B23.7B27.13B24.4BDBD7B23.4B8.2BD2BD11B$.
18BD13.5B4.10B10.4B2.2B6.BA.A29.2B26.2A10.20BA2.2A20.4B31.9B21.9B25.
13B24.3B2D9B23.2A10.2B3D12B$2.4B.2B4.4B3D14.3B6.8B10.4B14.A57.2A11.
19B3A2.A19.4B34.5B2A.2A20.5B2A.2A22.13B22.17B21.2A10.17B$4.B8.5B17.B
8.5B11.4B15.2A69.8BDBD8B3.A.A20.2B35.5B.A.2A20.5B.A.2A22.10B2E2B19.
20B33.14B3.2A$15.B29.2B12.4B89.6BDBD2B.3B2.2A.2A58.4BA.A23.4BA.A25.
10B2EB19.21B35.10B6.A$43.4B11.4B90.6B3DB2.2B4.A61.2B3A.A23.2B3A.A24.
13B19.15B2E5B2.2A31.8B.6B.A.2A$43.2A13.3B91.10B8.A.2A57.2BA3.A23.2BA
3.A24.13B19.16B2E3B.BA2.A31.8B2.2A2BA.2A.A$44.A106.7B13.A.A56.A2.4A
23.A2.4A26.7B2.5B2.2A14.22B3A31.7B4.A2.A.A$41.3A107.6B73.3A27.3A32.4B
5.A2BA2.A15.6B.8B2.B.2B34.6B6.3A.A$41.A110.4B77.2A28.2A30.3B5.B6A17.
5B2.6B6.B2A.A.2A28.4B10.A$152.4B76.A2.A26.A2.A37.3B23.B5.6B7.A.2A.A
28.4B9.A$233.2A28.2A39.2A.3A27.5B6.A46.2A$305.A.A2.A26.5B.B3.2A$303.A
.A.A.A28.5B2A$303.2A3.A29.3B.B2A$339.B3.B!
Re: Thread for your speculative elementary conduits
Posted: November 2nd, 2023, 4:35 pm
by confocaloid
yoleo wrote: ↑November 2nd, 2023, 11:50 am
The first placement is the same as PF*81H in the ECC, so you'd think it'd connect to
something...
I think that conduit in the ECC is mislabeled: there are two other "PF*81H" conduits at the top of the pi-to-H section, where the input pi is oriented differently relative to the output Herschel:
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x = 156, y = 331, rule = LifeHistory
7.F$7.F$7.F$7.F$7.F$156F$7.F$7.F$7.F$7.F$7.F$7.F$7.F$7.F$7.F$7.F$7.F$
7.F$7.F$7.F$7.F$7.F$7.F$7.F92.4D2.5D8.3D4.D3.D3.D.D$7.F4.4D2.5D8.3D4.
D3.D3.D53.D3.D.D5.D.D.D.D3.D2.2D3.D3.D.D$7.F4.D3.D.D5.D.D.D.D3.D2.2D
3.D3.D53.D3.D.D6.3D2.D3.D3.D3.D3.D.4D$7.F4.D3.D.D6.3D2.D3.D3.D3.D3.D
2.4D47.4D2.3D3.5D2.3D4.D3.5D.D3.D$7.F4.4D2.3D3.5D2.3D4.D3.5D.D3.D47.D
5.D6.3D2.D3.D3.D3.D3.D.D3.D$7.F4.D5.D6.3D2.D3.D3.D3.D3.D.D3.D47.D5.D
5.D.D.D.D3.D3.D3.D3.D.D3.D$7.F4.D5.D5.D.D.D.D3.D3.D3.D3.D.D3.D47.D5.D
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7.F$7.F$7.F$7.F102.2A$7.F12.2A89.A6.2A$7.F13.A6.2A81.A.AB.2B2AB$7.F
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10.3A3.9B78.A2.9B$7.F13.A2.9B77.2A.11B2.2B2.5B$7.F12.2A.11B2.2B2.4B
66.23BD2B$7.F12.23BDB67.21BDBD$7.F14.21BDBD64.12B2E9B3DB$7.F12.12B2E
9B3DB62.13B2E11BD$7.F11.13B2E11BD63.26B$7.F11.27B62.12B.2B.3B.4B$7.F
10.12B.2B.3B.4B66.11B8.4B$7.F10.11B6.6B68.14B3.4B$7.F11.14B2.5B71.3C
15B$7.F13.3C11B.3B72.2BC14B$7.F14.BC12B.B72.B3C13B$7.F12.B3C11B73.18B
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3.D$7.F25.4D2.3D3.5D3.D5.D5.D3.5D$7.F25.D5.D6.3D4.D4.D6.D3.D3.D$7.F
25.D5.D5.D.D.D3.D3.D7.D3.D3.D$7.F25.D5.D12.3D2.D6.3D2.D3.D$7.F$7.F$7.
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19B.B2A$7.F24.23B$7.F24.22B21.B$7.F24.23B19.3B$7.F24.24B16.6B$7.F25.
24B.2B6.4B2.7B$7.F25.4B3C22B2.15B$7.F27.4BC27BD11B$7.F27.2B3C27BDBD9B
$7.F28.31B3DB2E6B$7.F27.34BDB2E6B$7.F26.45B$7.F27.30B3.11B$7.F28.21B
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26.3A5.12B20.5B$7.F26.A8.10B21.4B$7.F34.A2.B4.5B$7.F33.A.A9.2A$7.F34.
A10.A$7.F46.3A$7.F48.A$7.F$7.F$7.F$7.F$7.F$7.F$7.F$7.F$7.F$7.F$7.F$7.
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3.D.D6.3D2.D3.D3.D3.D3.D$7.F25.4D2.3D3.5D2.3D4.D3.5D$7.F25.D5.D6.3D2.
D3.D3.D3.D3.D$7.F25.D5.D5.D.D.D.D3.D3.D3.D3.D$7.F25.D5.D12.3D3.3D2.D
3.D$7.F$7.F$7.F$7.F$7.F$7.F$7.F32.2B7.2A$7.F30.5B5.B2AB$7.F30.5B6.2B$
7.F29.7B4.2B$7.F29.7B2.6B$7.F29.7B2.7B$7.F29.8B.7B$7.F27.19B$7.F26.
23B3.2B2.2B$7.F27.32BD$7.F27.32BDBD$7.F27.5B3C13B2E9B3D$7.F28.4BC.C
13B2E11BD$7.F26.6BC.C25B$7.F24.A.2A5B.11B2.2B.3B.B$7.F22.3AB2AB2.B3.
10B$7.F21.A4.B10.8B$7.F22.3A.2A11.4B$7.F24.A.A$7.F24.A.A$7.F25.A$7.F$
7.F$7.F$7.F$7.F$7.F$7.F$7.F$7.F$7.F!
it was posted here:
Extrementhusiast wrote: ↑May 12th, 2021, 7:59 pm
PR*91H, not currently able to connect from anything stable that I examined, although not entirely unreasonable, either:
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x = 41, y = 21, rule = LifeHistory
19.2A$19.2A8$2.D$D.D$3D9.2C13.3C$D11.2C13.C.C$27.C.C$34.2A.A$34.2A.3A
$40.A$34.2A.3A$35.A.A$35.A.A$36.A!
Re: Thread for your speculative elementary conduits
Posted: November 2nd, 2023, 11:45 pm
by yoleo
Some leads on a new G-to-X:
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x = 156, y = 36, rule = LifeHistory
104.2A$.BC19.A19.C39.C20.A2.A15.C$CBC17.3A17.C.C37.C.C21.2A14.C.C$.2C
16.A21.2C17.A20.2C18.3A17.2C$19.2A37.3A34.2A4.A2.4A$25.A31.A7.A29.2A
7.A3.A$23.3A31.2A4.3A39.3A.A.2A$22.A39.A44.A.A.2A22.D$22.2A38.2A45.A
24.D.D$108.2A24.D.D$135.D7.3D$66.2A75.D2.D$66.A75.D2.2D5.A$43.A20.A.A
75.2D7.A.A$43.3A18.2A85.A.A$46.A103.2A.2A$45.2A102.A2.A$92.D57.A.A$
90.D.D56.2A.A.2A$22.2E38.2E26.3D9.2E38.2E4.A2.A.A.A$22.2E3.2D33.2E26.
D11.2E38.2E4.2A3.A$26.D2.D119.A.A.A$27.2D58.2A38.2A9.D9.A2.2A$86.A2.A
36.A2.A8.D9.2A$86.3A37.3A9.D$8.A39.A35.2A38.2A18.2A$8.3A37.3A33.A2.4A
20.2A11.A2.4A13.A.A$11.A16.2A21.A34.2A3.A19.A.A12.2A3.A14.A$10.2A4.2E
10.A21.2A4.2E32.2A4.2E15.A16.2A4.2E8.2A$15.E2.E10.3A23.E2.E36.E2.E14.
2A20.E2.E$15.E.E13.A23.E.E37.E.E37.E.E$16.E3.2A34.E3.2A34.E3.2A34.E3.
2A$12.2A6.A.A29.2A6.A.A29.2A6.A.A29.2A6.A.A$13.A8.A30.A8.A30.A8.A30.A
8.A$10.3A9.2A26.3A9.2A26.3A9.2A26.3A9.2A$10.A39.A39.A39.A!
I'm running a CatForce search with one transparent block/beehive/loaf, one sacrificial block, and 3 normal catalysts--the intent was to use barrister to replace the sacrificial block. But it searches configurations where the G hits the sacrificial block as well, which is how I came across this really compact transparent loaf + 3 fishhook arrangement. It sends stuff quite far, with surprisingly little debris left behind.
Re: Thread for your speculative elementary conduits
Posted: November 3rd, 2023, 9:53 am
by Jormungant
yoleo wrote: ↑November 2nd, 2023, 11:45 pm
Some leads on a new G-to-X:
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x = 156, y = 36, rule = LifeHistory
104.2A$.BC19.A19.C39.C20.A2.A15.C$CBC17.3A17.C.C37.C.C21.2A14.C.C$.2C
16.A21.2C17.A20.2C18.3A17.2C$19.2A37.3A34.2A4.A2.4A$25.A31.A7.A29.2A
7.A3.A$23.3A31.2A4.3A39.3A.A.2A$22.A39.A44.A.A.2A22.D$22.2A38.2A45.A
24.D.D$108.2A24.D.D$135.D7.3D$66.2A75.D2.D$66.A75.D2.2D5.A$43.A20.A.A
75.2D7.A.A$43.3A18.2A85.A.A$46.A103.2A.2A$45.2A102.A2.A$92.D57.A.A$
90.D.D56.2A.A.2A$22.2E38.2E26.3D9.2E38.2E4.A2.A.A.A$22.2E3.2D33.2E26.
D11.2E38.2E4.2A3.A$26.D2.D119.A.A.A$27.2D58.2A38.2A9.D9.A2.2A$86.A2.A
36.A2.A8.D9.2A$86.3A37.3A9.D$8.A39.A35.2A38.2A18.2A$8.3A37.3A33.A2.4A
20.2A11.A2.4A13.A.A$11.A16.2A21.A34.2A3.A19.A.A12.2A3.A14.A$10.2A4.2E
10.A21.2A4.2E32.2A4.2E15.A16.2A4.2E8.2A$15.E2.E10.3A23.E2.E36.E2.E14.
2A20.E2.E$15.E.E13.A23.E.E37.E.E37.E.E$16.E3.2A34.E3.2A34.E3.2A34.E3.
2A$12.2A6.A.A29.2A6.A.A29.2A6.A.A29.2A6.A.A$13.A8.A30.A8.A30.A8.A30.A
8.A$10.3A9.2A26.3A9.2A26.3A9.2A26.3A9.2A$10.A39.A39.A39.A!
I'm running a CatForce search with one transparent block/beehive/loaf, one sacrificial block, and 3 normal catalysts--the intent was to use barrister to replace the sacrificial block. But it searches configurations where the G hits the sacrificial block as well, which is how I came across this really compact transparent loaf + 3 fishhook arrangement. It sends stuff quite far, with surprisingly little debris left behind.
There is probably a way to make a g3-to-h here (with some parity delay constraint due to annoying blinker to suppress), but here is a periodic g4-to-g in the mean time:
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x = 80, y = 91, rule = LifeHistory
10$71.C$69.2C$70.2C31$40.C$39.C2B$38.B3C$37.4B$16.2A18.4B$17.A17.4B$
15.A2.2A14.4B$15.2A.A.A12.4B$16.A.A.AB10.4B$16.A2.A3B8.4B$7.2A4.BA.A
4.4B5.4B$8.A2.B.B2A5.6B2.4B$8.A.A3B7.11B3.B$9.2A2B.2B4.18B$11.6B2.14B
2D3B$10.2B2E18BD2BDB2A$10.BE2BE18B2D2B2AB$10.2BEBE4B.14B.4B$11.2BE4B
3D11B2.7B$10.5B.3B.12B.8B$10.2A4.25B$11.A5.24B$8.3A7.4B2E5B2D10B$8.A
7.4B.B2E5BDB2D8B.2B$16.2A3.11BD10B2A$17.A4.8BDBD8B.B2A$14.3A6.7B2D9B
2.B$14.A7.10B.7B$19.2A.2A3B4.B.8B$19.A.2A.ABAB3.B2.7B$22.2B2A.A6.7B$
20.2ABAB2.3A5.8BA$20.A3.3A3.A4.7BA.A$21.3A3.3A5.8BA$24.A2.A7.6B.B$23.
2A10.5B$34.7B$33.2AB.5B$32.A.A2B.5B$32.A3.B.B.4B$31.2A3.B.B2.4B$42.3B
$43.2B!
Re: Thread for your speculative elementary conduits
Posted: November 6th, 2023, 12:35 pm
by affamatodidio
Almost R-G. Should be complete-able with a replacement catalyst.
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x = 18, y = 26, rule = B3/S23
4bo$3bobo$3bobo$b3ob2o$o9b2o$b3ob2o3b2o$3bob2o2$9b2o$8bo2bo$9bobo$10b
o$14b2o$14b2o2$5b2o$6b2o$6bo$14b2o$14bo$15b3o$6b2ob2o6bo$7bobobo$6bo2b
ob3o$7b2o5bo$13b2o!
Re: Thread for your speculative elementary conduits
Posted: November 6th, 2023, 1:01 pm
by Period1GliderGun
affamatodidio wrote: ↑November 6th, 2023, 12:35 pm
Almost R-G. Should be complete-able with a replacement catalyst.
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x = 18, y = 26, rule = B3/S23
4bo$3bobo$3bobo$b3ob2o$o9b2o$b3ob2o3b2o$3bob2o2$9b2o$8bo2bo$9bobo$10b
o$14b2o$14b2o2$5b2o$6b2o$6bo$14b2o$14bo$15b3o$6b2ob2o6bo$7bobobo$6bo2b
ob3o$7b2o5bo$13b2o!
You can do it with an odd traffic stop:
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x = 29, y = 29, rule = B3/S23
4b2obo$4bob2o2$5b5o$2o2bo4bo$o2bo2bo$bobob2o$2obo5bo$3bo4bobo8bo$3b2o
2bo2bo6b3o$8b2o6bo$16b2o$11b3o2$15bo$15bo$15bo7bo$7b2o12b3o$6bobo2b3o
6bo$6bo13b2o5b2o$5b2o19bobo$26bo$12b2o11b2o$11bo2bo9bo$11bobo10b3o$12b
o14bo$19bo4b2obo$18b3o3bobo$18bo!
There is definitely a stable solution out there.
EDIT: Completion in LakeLife; maybe something like this can be engineered:
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x = 21, y = 13, rule = B3/S235e
15bo$13b3o$12bo$2ob2o7b2o5b2o$2obo14bobo$3bo14bo$3bobo11b2o$4bobo9bo$
3b3o10b3o$19bo$b3o7bo4b2obo$o2bo6b3o3bobo$b2o7bo!
Re: Thread for your speculative elementary conduits
Posted: November 7th, 2023, 2:27 pm
by Disaster16439
Another sad one:
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x = 15, y = 28, rule = B3/S23
10b2o$10b2o2$b2obo$bob2o7$2o5bo$2o5b3o$7bobo$9bo8$7b2o$7b2o2b2o$12bo$
11bo$12b3o$14bo!
Can anyone search for a catalyst?
There is also this one which is even sadder:
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x = 12, y = 25, rule = B3/S23
10b2o$10b2o2$b2obo$bob2o7$2o5bo$2o5b3o$7bobo$9bo8$7b2o$6bo2bo$7b2o!
Ikm convinced that there is something like this that will work:
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x = 12, y = 33, rule = B3/S23
10b2o$10b2o2$b2obo$bob2o7$2o5bo$2o5b3o$7bobo$9bo8$7b2o$6bobo$7bo5$8b2o
$8bo$9b3o$11bo!
My 122th post!
112=2x61
Re: Thread for your speculative elementary conduits
Posted: November 7th, 2023, 2:46 pm
by dvgrn
Disaster16439 wrote: ↑November 7th, 2023, 2:27 pm
Another sad one:
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x = 15, y = 28, rule = B3/S23
10b2o$10b2o2$b2obo$bob2o7$2o5bo$2o5b3o$7bobo$9bo8$7b2o$7b2o2b2o$12bo$
11bo$12b3o$14bo!
Can anyone search for a catalyst?
It might be a good idea to get in the habit of posting conduits with their input in standard orientation. That way you can more easily figure out what the systematic name would be -- it's a 133-step right turn in this case.
If you search the forums for "R133", it will turn out that there have been some (periodic, or actually pseudo-stable) solutions
already posted for this problem, in this same thread just a couple of months ago.
That's not to say that there isn't a stable solution out there somewhere -- just that the problem has been looked at before, quite recently.
Re: Thread for your speculative elementary conduits
Posted: November 7th, 2023, 6:07 pm
by AlbertArmStain
Here's an interesting partial conduit:
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x = 20, y = 33, rule = LifeHistory
10.A.2A.2A$8.3A.A3.A$7.A5.2A$8.A.2A.A.4A$7.2A.2A.A.A2.A$14.A10$C$C.C$
3C$2.C7$11.D$10.3D$12.D2$17.2A$16.A2.A$17.A.A$18.A!
yoleo wrote: ↑November 7th, 2023, 2:17 pm
EDIT: in a similar vein, here's some very very sparky ways to eat the block from a H
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x = 40, y = 27, rule = LifeHistory
36.2A$37.A$35.A$7.2A24.4A$7.A24.A5.2A$8.A22.A2.4A.A$5.3A.A2.2A18.2A.A
$4.A4.A3.A19.A$4.A.A.A.3A20.A$5.2A.A.A20.A.A.2A$9.A21.2A.A.A$34.A$34.
2A7$4.C29.C$4.C.C27.C.C$4.3C27.3C$6.C29.C3$2A28.2A$2A28.2A!
This can be welded with an eater 2 and ship to make another conduit
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x = 16, y = 20, rule = LifeHistory
3.2A5.A$3.A5.A.A$4.A4.A.A$.3A.A2.2A.2A$A4.A$A.A.A.4A.2A$.2A.A.A2.A.2A
$5.A$14.2A$13.A.A$13.2A6$C$C.C$3C$2.C!
Re: Thread for your speculative elementary conduits
Posted: November 8th, 2023, 12:45 pm
by AlbertArmStain
yoleo wrote: ↑October 5th, 2023, 9:50 pm
Is there anything that can be done about the pair of blocks? Each side of the reaction allows for a pi-to-B, so if one of the sides be coaxed into eliminating those blocks, it'd be a pi-to-B. And it does connect to conduit 1.
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x = 27, y = 56, rule = LifeHistory
10.3D$11.D$9.3D16$9.2E$9.2E8.A$18.A.A$3.A7.D6.A.A$.3A6.3D4.2A.3A$A8.
2DBDB4.B4.A$2A6.6B3.2AB3A$9.6B2.2A.A$8.11B$8.9B$9.9B$10.8B7.2A$8.11B
6.A$8.11B3.BA.A$7.10B3.3B2A$6.2D9B.6B$6.2D12B2AB$7.12BA2BA$9.3C8B2A$
10.BC7B$9.3C8B2A$7.12BA2BA$6.2D12B2AB$6.2D9B.6B$7.10B3.3B2A$8.11B3.BA
.A$8.11B6.A$10.8B7.2A$9.9B$8.9B$8.11B$9.6B2.2A.A$8.6B3.2AB3A$9.2DBDB
4.B4.A$10.3D4.2A.3A$11.D6.A.A$18.A.A$19.A!
This is perfect for a Hf factory though, you don’t even need to get rid of those blocks:
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x = 52, y = 56, rule = LifeHistory
35.3D$36.D$34.3D16$34.2E$34.2E8.A$43.A.A$25.2A.A7.D6.A.A$25.A.2A6.3D4.
2A.3A$34.2DBDB4.B4.A$33.6B3.2AB3A$4.A29.6B2.2A.A$4.3A26.11B$7.A25.9B$
6.2A26.9B$35.8B7.2A$33.11B6.A$2A31.11B3.BA.A$.A6.3C21.10B3.3B2A$.A.A5.
C21.2E9B.6B$2.2A3.3C21.2E12B2AB$32.12BA2BA$16.2D16.11B2A$15.D2.D16.9B
$16.2D16.11B2A$32.12BA2BA$31.2E12B2AB$31.2E9B.6B$32.10B3.3B2A$33.11B3.
BA.A$33.11B6.A$35.8B7.2A$34.9B$33.9B$33.11B$34.6B2.2A.A$33.6B3.2AB3A$
34.2DBDB4.B4.A$35.3D4.2A.3A$36.D6.A.A$43.A.A$44.A!
The most obvious way to get rid of the beehive while still having good clearance would be to use a Fx119 following the BFx59H and a snark.