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Debris-Laying Herschel Conduit Wanted
Posted: October 30th, 2010, 12:31 am
by Extrementhusiast
I am looking for a stable Herschel conduit that "edgeshoots" a block (or a ship, as that works, too), but does not necessarily release another Herschel. (It could also "push" a block, with the same requirements.) I have found four glider-Herschel collisions that produce what I want:
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x = 5, y = 18, rule = LifeHistory
2.A$A.A$.2A13$.3C$2.C$2.3C!
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x = 11, y = 18, rule = LifeHistory
2.A$A.A$.2A13$7.3C$8.C$8.3C!
(temporarily)
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x = 11, y = 16, rule = LifeHistory
2.A$A.A$.2A11$7.3C$8.C$8.3C!
Especially this one:
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x = 21, y = 24, rule = B3/S23
obo$b2o$bo19$17b3o$18bo$18b3o!
It would be very helpful if it generated an R-loaf in the right orientation.
Re: Debris-Laying Herschel Conduit Wanted
Posted: October 30th, 2010, 6:18 am
by calcyman
There are plenty of Herschel conduits that produce blocks beyond the edge of the pattern.
My favourite is Brice's converter, which leaves a huge gap between the output block and the remainder of the pattern.
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x = 34, y = 24, rule = LifeHistory
8.2A$9.A13.2A$9.A.AB9.B2A2B3.2B$10.2A5B6.4B2.2B2D$12.7B2.10B2D$12.21B
$13.20B$12.22B$10.24B$8.26B$8.2BC22B$7.3BCBC4B.14B$8.2B3C4B2.13B$7.5B
C4B.13B$6.10B.13B$5.4B6.15B$4.4B7.14B$4.3B8.13B$2.4B10.12B$2.2A9.B.
12B$3.A8.2A11B$3A9.2A12B$A12.B.10B$15.9B!
The next converter comes in two isomers:
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x = 42, y = 58, rule = LifeHistory
21.2A$12.2A6.B2AB$13.A7.3B$13.A.AB3.B.B$14.2AB2.6B$16.9B8.2A$7.2A7.
12B3.2B2AB$8.A8.12B2.4B3.B$8.A.AB6.23B$9.2AB.3B2.23B$11.21B3D5B2D$11.
23BD5B2D$12.20B3D6B$11.29B$9.21B.9B$7.19B6.7B$7.2BC15B8.6B$6.3BCBC4B.
7B7.5B$7.2B3C4B2.6B7.2A$6.5BC4B3.6B7.A$5.10B6.4B4.3A$4.4B12.B2A2B4.A$
3.4B14.2A.B2A$2.4B18.BA.A$2.2A23.A$3.A23.2A$3A$A3$21.2A$12.2A6.B2AB5.
A$13.A7.3B5.3A$13.A.AB3.B.B9.A$14.2AB2.6B6.2A$16.9B6.5B$7.2A7.12B5.6B
$8.A8.12B3.7B$8.A.AB6.22B$9.2AB.3B2.22B$11.21B3D6B$11.23BD5B2D$12.20B
3D5B2D$11.30B$9.21B.10B$7.19B5.4B3.B$7.2BC15B6.2B2AB$6.3BCBC4B.7B9.2A
$7.2B3C4B2.6B$6.5BC4B3.6B$5.10B6.4B$4.4B12.B2A2B$3.4B14.2A.B2A$2.4B
18.BA.A$2.2A23.A$3.A23.2A$3A$A!
And the simplest one, known since antiquity, is this:
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x = 10, y = 11, rule = LifeHistory
4.A$3.A.A$4.A$5.4B$3.5B2D$.7B2D$.2BC6B$3BCBC4B$.2B3C4B$.4BC4B$2.7B!
Re: Debris-Laying Herschel Conduit Wanted
Posted: October 30th, 2010, 3:28 pm
by Extrementhusiast
I figure I need something like this:
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x = 17, y = 16, rule = LifeHistory
A$3A$3.A$2.2A$2.4B$3.4B5.2D$3.5B2.2B2DB$3.13B$3.13B$3.14B$3.13B$3.13B
$3.12B$4.11B$6.8B$9.3B!
Catalysts can be on the other (bottom) side, though, but somewhat far away from the right-hand side.
Just realized that a beehive edgeshooting conduit would also work, though the edgeshooting requirements would be far more stringent.
Re: Debris-Laying Herschel Conduit Wanted
Posted: November 2nd, 2010, 11:22 pm
by Extrementhusiast
Got something close to what I wanted:
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x = 120, y = 105, rule = LifeHistory
12$70.4B19.4B$71.4B17.4B$72.4B15.4B$73.4B13.4B$74.4B11.4B$70.2B3.4B9.
4B$69.4B3.4B7.4B$69.4B4.4B5.4B$68.6B4.4B3.4B$68.7B.B2.4B.4B$68.10B2.
7B$69.10B2.5B$58.B7.B.11B2.5B2.3B$57.3B4.29B$56.27B.10B$55.27B3.9B$
51.2B.28B4.9B$49.33B4.4BD4B$46.8B.29B4.BDBD4B$45.41B2.D2BD4B$45.41B.
2B2D6B$45.51B$45.51B2D$45.44B2D5B2D$45.44B2D6B$45.51B$45.44B2.4B$45.
44B$45.9B2D22B2D7B$45.6B2.D2BD21B2D8B$46.4B2.2B2D33B$52.16B2.21B$53.
15B2.8B.13B$53.2B3D8B6.5B2.15B$53.3BD8B8.2B2.18B$53.3B3D6B12.18B.B$
53.9B2.B2A9.2A20B$53.7B4.BA.A8.2A21B$52.8B7.A9.B.20B$51.8B8.2A10.20B$
50.9B21.19B$49.4B.6B20.19B$48.4B.7B19.8B.11B$47.4B2.6B15.2A3.7B3.10B$
46.4B3.8B4.B8.A3.11B.9B$45.4B5.B2A6B.4B3.BA.A3.15B.5B$44.4B5.2B2A13B.
B2A4.12B5.2B$43.4B7.18B6.12B4.B2AB$42.4B9.17B5.4B.4B3CB5.2A$41.4B13.
13B6.2A4.4BC2B$40.4B13.12B9.A4.2B3C2B$39.4B14.10B8.3A6.6B$38.4B14.11B
8.A8.7B$37.4B15.7B.2B20.B.4B$36.4B15.11B23.4B$35.4B17.11B23.4B$34.4B
18.11B24.3B$33.4B19.11B26.B2A$32.4B18.2AB2.4B3CB26.BA.A$31.4B18.A.AB
3.4BC2B29.A$30.4B19.A6.2B3C2B29.2A$29.4B19.2A7.6B$29.3B29.7B$29.2B32.
B.4B$29.B36.4B$67.3B$69.B2A$69.BA.A$72.A$72.2A!
Unfortunately, it does leave a little debris. (I stuck a 77 conduit on because the right-hand Herschel did not create the block fast enough.) Both areas of unneeded debris can be cleared with a single glider each, with the left one (the beehive) being able to be cleaned up by a Rectifier. (The right one can also be cleared by an LWSS.)
Want a toad? Here is (in my opinion, at least) a neat way to make one from a Herschel:
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x = 12, y = 19, rule = LifeHistory
3.B$.B3DB$.3D2B$.6B$.6B$9B$.8B$4B2C4B$4B2C4B$.8B$.9B$2.7B$2.9B$2.2B3C
5B$3.2BC6B$3.2B3C3B$3.6B$4.5B$6.B!
The same situation has come up time and time again: How do you edgeshoot a Herschel?