Truth in Quetzals

[Book]

This thread is just about quetzals, please.

I recently reformatted the quetzal page on the wiki for, I hope, improved readability. Used the old content. Added pattern images/viewers where I could, and made a few other minor edits.

The purpose of this thread is to solicit anyone who has more correct or up-to-date information for that page to either do the edits or post them here so I or someone else can do them.

I'm especially interested in missing patterns (Q55, 57, 60) and citations.

[Sokwe]

I think we need to determine what exactly we want on that page. I think the table is a good idea, but what should be the example pattern? The first quetzal? The smallest? Is the following a p59 quetzal?

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x = 312, y = 388, rule = B3/S23
73bo$73b3o5b2o$76bo4bo$58b2o15bo3bobo$59bo14bo3bobo$59bobo12b2o3bo$60b
2o2b2o37bo$64b2o35b3o17b2o$100bo20bo$87b2o11b2o20bo$87b2o32b2o$76b2o
19b2o$75b3o12bo7b2o34b2o$71b2o4bo11b2o3b2o38bo$71bo2b2o12b2o3b2o19bo2b
o3b2o9bobo$72b2o15b2o4bo18bo17b2o$73bo16b2o24b2obo$110b3o3bob2obo7b2o$
58b2o50bo2b3o2b2obo6bobo$57bobo16b2o26bo5bo5bo2bo8bo$57bo18bobo26b2o4b
2o2bo3b3o7b4o$56b2o20bo25b2o7b2o18bo$66b2o4b2o4b2o24b2o23b2ob2o$65bo2b
o3bo2bo23b2o3bo25bobo$66b2o6b2o23bo3bobo24bobo$66b2o18b2o12bo3bobo24bo
9bo$62b2obo19bobo13bo4bo32b3o$62bo2bo19bo12b3o5b2o30bo$63b3o18b2o12bo
39b2o$123b3o$124bo6b2o$125bo6b2o$25b2o12bo90b3o$26bo12b3o5b2o81b2o$26b
obo13bo4bo$27b2o12bo3bobo24bo$40bo3bobo24bobo$40b2o3bo25bobo$12bo57b2o
b2o$12b3o30bo28bo65b2o$15bo5b2o22b2o7b2o4b3o7b4o62b2o2bo$14b2o4bob3o
19bobo5b2ob2o12bo51b2o13bobobo$20bo4bo26bo8bo7bobo48bobo16bo$17b2obob
3o8bo18bo4bobobo8b2o48bo$17bo2bobo8b2o20bo8bo56b2o16bo$18b2o11b3o2b2o
17b3o4bo10b2o61bobo$30bo5b2o18bobo4bo9bobo61bo$31bo4b3o20bo3bo11bo54b
3o5b3o$31bo3bo2b2o20bo14b2o53bo2bo6bo$33bo5bo89bo3bo$28b2o32b2o65bobob
2o$7bob2o4b2o11b2o11b2o20bo66b2ob2o$7b2obo3bo2bo23bo20bo68b3o$14b2ob2o
23b3o17b2o$17bobo24bo$19b2o$16bo3bo107b2obobo$16bo2bo108b2obobo$17b3o
111b3o$128b3o$128b3o$43bo12b2o62b2o$34b2o5b3o12bo63bo2bo8b3o$35bo4bo
13bobo59b2o4b2o$10bo24bobo3bo12b2o42b2o17bo20b2o$9bobo24bobo3bo56bo17b
obo18bo$9bobo25bo3b2o55bo19b2o16bobo$8b2ob2o23b2o32bo27b2o36b2o$8bo18b
2o7b2o30b3o$9b4o7b3o3bo2b2o4b2o23b2o5bo17b2o38b2o3b2o$13bo8bo2bo5bo5bo
20b3obo4b2o17bo38bobo2bobo$11bobo6bob2o2b3o2bo25bo4bo23bobo14b2o22b2o
3b2o$11b2o7bob2obo3b3o26b3obob2o21b2o12b2o2bo22b2o2bo$22bob2o24b2o8bob
o2bo35bo5bob2o18b3o$8b2o17bo18bo4b2o10b2o25b2o19bo18bo$7bobo9b2o3bo2bo
19b2o3b2o36bobo10b2o6bo$7bo38b2o3b2o39bo7bo3bo5b2o$6b2o34b2o7bo36b4o7b
3o3bo$43b2o42bo12b2o3bo3bo20b2o$19b2o32b2o32b2ob2o15bo22b2o2b2o$19bo
20b2o11b2o10b3o4b2obo12bobo26b2ob2o12bobo$20bo20bo22b2o2bo3bob2o12bobo
24bobo3bo14bo$19b2o17b3o22bo3b2o20bo24bobo3bo15b2o$38bo23bo2b3o46bo4bo
$61bo2b2o47b2o5b3o$61bo2bo57bo$62bo2bo$62bo2bo30b3o$63b3o30bo2bo$96bo
2bo$39bo57bo2bo$39b3o5b2o47b2o2bo$42bo4bo46b3o2bo23bo$24b2o15bo3bobo
24bo20b2o3bo22b3o17b2o$25bo14bo3bobo24bobo12b2obo3bo2b2o22bo20bo$25bob
o12b2ob2o26bobo12bob2o4b3o10b2o11b2o20bo$26b2o2b2o22bo15b2ob2o32b2o32b
2o$30b2o20bo3bo3b2o12bo42b2o$56bo3b3o7b4o36bo7b2o34b2o$50b2o5bo3bo7bo
39b2o3b2o38bo$50bo6b2o10bobo36b2o3b2o19bo2bo3b2o9bobo$31bo18bo19b2o25b
2o10b2o4bo18bo17b2o$30b3o18b2obo5bo35bo2bobo8b2o24b2obo$29bo2b2o22bo2b
2o12b2o21b2obob3o26b3o3bob2obo7b2o$28b2o3b2o22b2o14bobo23bo4bo25bo2b3o
2b2obo6bobo$29bobo2bobo38bo17b2o4bob3o20bo5bo5bo2bo8bo$30b2o3b2o38b2o
17bo5b2o23b2o4b2o2bo3b3o7b4o$91b3o30b2o7b2o18bo$24b2o36b2o27bo32b2o23b
2ob2o$23bobo16b2o19bo55b2o3bo25bobo$23bo18bobo17bo56bo3bobo24bobo$22b
2o20bo17b2o42b2o12bo3bobo24bo$38b2o4b2o59bobo13bo4bo$27b3o8bo2bo63bo
12b3o5b2o$40b2o62b2o12bo136b2o3b2o$31b3o221b2o2bob3o$31b3o225bo4bo$28b
3o111b3o110b4ob2o2bo$28bobob2o108bo2bo109bo2bobobob2o$28bobob2o107bo3b
o112bobobobo$141b2o116b2obobo$117bo24bobo118bo$98b2o17b3o23b2ob2o$28b
3o68bo20bo23bo2bo3bob2o94b2o$27b2ob2o66bo20b2o11b2o11b2o4b2obo95bo7b2o
$27b2obobo65b2o32b2o116bobo5b2o$28bo3bo89bo5bo122b2o$21bo6bo2bo53b2o
14bo20b2o2bo3bo$21b3o5b3o54bo11bo3bo20b3o4bo$24bo61bobo9bo4bobo18b2o5b
o$23bobo61b2o10bo4b3o17b2o2b3o11b2o$24bo16b2o56bo8bo20b2o8bobo2bo110b
3o$41bo48b2o8bobobo4bo18bo8b3obob2o112bo11bo$22bo16bobo48bobo7bo8bo26b
o4bo114bo4b2o7b2o$21bobobo13b2o51bo12b2ob2o5bobo19b3obo4b2o113bo7b2o$
21bo2b2o62b4o7b3o4b2o7b2o22b2o5bo115b3o$20b2o65bo28bo30b3o114bo$87b2ob
2o57bo$88bobo25bo3b2o$88bobo24bobo3bo$89bo24bobo3bo12b2o$114bo4bo13bob
o$30b2o81b2o5b3o12bo$29b3o90bo12b2o$28b2o6bo$29b2o6bo203bo$36b3o202b2o
$22b2o39bo12b2o18b3o141bobo9b2o3b2o26bo$23bo30b2o5b3o12bo19bo2bo150b3o
bo2b2o24bobo$20b3o32bo4bo13bobo19bob2o149bo4bo29b2o$20bo9bo24bobo3bo
12b2o18b2o153bo2b2ob4o43bo$29bobo24bobo3bo23b2o6b2o152b2obobobo2bo41b
3o$29bobo25bo3b2o23bo2bo3bo2bo152bobobobo43bo$28b2ob2o23b2o24b2o4b2o4b
2o153bobob2o44b2o$28bo18b2o7b2o25bo20b2o144bo$29b4o7b3o3bo2b2o4b2o26bo
bo18bo$33bo8bo2bo5bo5bo26b2o16bobo158b2o42b2ob2o$31bobo6bob2o2b3o2bo
50b2o150b2o7bo44bob2o$31b2o7bob2obo3b3o202b2o5bobo32b3o9bo$42bob2o24b
2o16bo172b2o33b3o7b3o$28b2o17bo18bo4b2o15b2o136b2o67bo3bo5bo3b2o$27bob
o9b2o3bo2bo19b2o3b2o12b2o2bo134bobo67bob2o6b4o2bo$27bo38b2o3b2o11bo4b
2o136bo18bo44b2o3b3o9bob2o$26b2o34b2o7bo12b3o159bobo41bobo12b3o2bo$63b
2o19b2o160b2o42bo13bo5bo$39b2o32b2o214b2o14b5o$39bo20b2o11b2o14bo161b
2o54bo$40bo20bo27bo162bo7b2o$39b2o17b3o29bo158b3o7b2o10bo$58bo190bo2b
3o6bo7b5o$82bo3b2o162bo3bo13bo5bo$81bobo3bo159b3o4bobo12b3o2bo$80bobo
3bo17bo142bo7b2o15bob2o$80bo4bo19bo163b4o2bo$79b2o5b3o14b3o158b2o3bo3b
2o$88bo10b2o110b2o51b2o4b3o13bo$98b2o112b2o58bo12bo$100bo110bo19bobo
38bob2o9b3o$231b2o38b2ob2o$232bo2$252b3o8b2o$254bo8bo$253bo10b3o$266bo
3$118bo$119b2o138bo$118b2o139b3o$113b3o80b3o63bo9bo$113bo84bo18bo43b2o
7b2o$114bo82bo18bo54b2o$216b3o$253b2o$238bo14bo$238b2o10b2obo$237bobo
10bo2b3o4b2o$251b2o3bo3b2o$253b4o$75b2o3b2o21b2o3b2o143bo15b2o$75b2o2b
ob3o19b2o2bob3o142b3o12bobo$79bo4bo22bo4bo21bo122bo13bo6bo$75b4ob2o2bo
18b4ob2o2bo19bobo117b5o14b2o3b3o$75bo2bobobob2o17bo2bobobob2o15bo3b2o
47bo68bo14bo8bo$78bobobobo21bobobobo15b2o52b2o66bo2b2o9bobo8b2o$79b2ob
obo22b2obobo15bobo50bobo19bo45bob2obo10b2o$83bo27bo89b2o40b2o4bo$202b
2o37bo2bo2b2ob4o29b2ob2o$69b2o26b2o142b2obobobo4bo30bob2o$70bo27bo7b2o
115b2o19bobobob2o32bo$70bobo25bobo121bobo19bob4o26b2o4b3o$71b2o6bo19b
2o123bo20b2obo27b2o3bo3b2o$79bo26b2o140bobo30b4o2bo$78bobo25b2obo138b
3o7b2o7b2o15bob2o$79b2o17bo8b2o137b2obo8bo7bobo12b3o2bo$79b2o15b3o9bo
137b2o8bobo7bo13bo5bo$95bo51bobo95b4o7b2o7b2o14b5o$95b2o51b2o94b2o2bo
22bobo9bo$81b2o26b2o32b2o3bo18b2o59bo14b2o26b2o$81bo27bo33bobo20bobo
59b3o27bo13bo$82b3o8b2o15b3o17b2o11bo24bo11b2o5bo10bo32bo26b3o$58b2o
24bo7bo2bo16bo17bo50bo5bobo6b3o31b2o29bo$59bo61bobo63b2o6bo64b2o$57bo
34b3o27b2o71b2o49b2o$57b5o14b2o7b2o35bo85b2o12b2o8b3o12bo$62bo6bo6bo7b
obo122b2o11bo8bo3bo8b3o$59b3o6b3o3bobo7bo123bo10b2obo7bo5bo7bo$58bo8b
5ob3o7b2o31b2o101bo2b3o4bo3bo3bo19b3o$58b4o4b2o3b3o43bo24bo26bo21bo28b
2o3bo3bo2bobo22bo4bo$56b2o3bo3b3o3b3o23bo19bobo21b3o24b3o19b3o29b4o3bo
3bo24bo3bo7b2o$46b2o7bo2b3o5b2o3b2o20b2obobo19b2o20bo2bo24bo2bo17bo2bo
29bo7bo8bo30bobo$46bobo5bobobo8b5o20bobobobo32bo7b3o2b2o20b2o2b3o7bo7b
3o2b2o28b3o5bo3bob2obo19bo2b2o7bo$48bo4bo2bobo9b3o18bo2bobobobob2o4bo
7b2o14bobo7b2o3b2o8b2obo6b2o3b2o7bobo7b2o3b2o30bo5b3o5bo6bo16bo7b2o$
44b4ob2o2bobo2b2o9bo19b4ob2o2bo2bo4b3o5b2o24b2o2b2o7bob3o8b2o2b2o17b2o
2b2o26b5o14b2o3b3o14bobo$44bo4bobobob2o36bo4b2o9bo20b3o19bob2o23b3o38b
o23bo14b2o$47bo3bobo34bob2obo14b2o45bo63bo2b2o20b2o12bo5bo$47bo5bo12b
2o20b2o2bo59bobo47b2o14bob2obo34bobo3bo$51b2o14bo23bo38b3o46b3o20bo9b
2o4bo36b2obobobo4bo$47bobo14b3o3b2o14b5o26b2o2b2o17b2o2b2o20b2o2b2o24b
2o5b3o4bo2bo2b2ob4o19bo9b2o2bobo2b2ob4o$38b2o7bo16bo6bo5b3o5bo30b2o3b
2o7bobo7b2o3b2o18b2o3b2o7bobo14b2o7bo4b2obobobobo2bo18b3o9bobo2bo4bo$
39bo7b2o2bo19bob2obo3bo5b3o28b2o2b3o7bo7b3o2b2o20b2o2b3o7bo32bobobobo
20b5o8bobobo5bobo$39bobo30bo8bo7bo29bo2bo17bo2bo24bo2bo20b2o19bobob2o
20b2o3b2o5b3o2bo7b2o$40b2o7bo3bo24bo3bo3b4o29b3o19b3o24b3o21bobo19bo
23b3o3b3o3bo3b2o$49bo4bo22bobo2bo3bo3b2o28bo21bo26bo24bo43b3o3b2o4b4o$
52b3o19bo3bo3bo4b3o2bo101b2o31b2o7b3ob5o8bo$67bo7bo5bo7bob2o10bo123bo
7bobo3b3o6b3o$65b3o8bo3bo8bo11b2o122bobo7bo6bo6bo$64bo12b3o8b2o12b2o
85bo35b2o7b2o14b5o$64b2o49b2o71b2o27b3o34bo$50b2o64bo6b2o63bobo61bo$
50bo29b2o31b3o6bobo5bo50bo17bo16bo2bo7bo24b2o$51b3o26bo32bo10bo5b2o11b
o24bo11b2o17b3o15b2o8b3o$39bo13bo27b3o59bobo20bobo33bo27bo$39b2o26b2o
14bo59b2o22b2o32b2o26b2o$28bo9bobo22bo2b2o147b2o$26b5o14b2o7b2o7b4o
149bo$25bo5bo13bo7bobo8b2o137bo9b3o15b2o$25bo2b3o12bobo7bo8bob2o137b2o
8bo17b2o$24b2obo15b2o7b2o7b3o138bob2o25bobo$24bo2b4o30bobo140b2o26bo$
25b2o3bo3b2o27bob2o20bo123b2o19bo6b2o$27b3o4b2o26b4obo19bobo121bobo25b
obo$27bo32b2obobobo19b2o115b2o7bo27bo$24b2obo30bo4bobobob2o142b2o26b2o
$24b2ob2o29b4ob2o2bo2bo37b2o$62bo4b2o40b2o89bo27bo$45b2o10bob2obo45bo
19bobo50bobo15bobob2o22bobob2o$35b2o8bobo9b2o2bo66b2o52b2o15bobobobo
21bobobobo$36bo8bo14bo68bo52bo15b2obobobo2bo17b2obobobo2bo$33b3o3b2o
14b5o139bo2b2ob4o18bo2b2ob4o$33bo6bo13bo144bo4bo22bo4bo$40bobo12b3o
142b3obo2b2o19b3obo2b2o$41b2o15bo143b2o3b2o21b2o3b2o$55b4o$50b2o3bo3b
2o$50b2o4b3o2bo10bobo$58bob2o10b2o$58bo14bo$57b2o$93b3o$39b2o54bo18bo
82bo$40b2o7b2o43bo18bo84bo$39bo9bo63b3o80b3o$50b3o$52bo4$45bo$45b3o10b
o$48bo8bo$47b2o8b3o2$79bo$36b2ob2o38b2o$24b3o9b2obo38bobo19bo110bo$26b
o12bo58b2o112b2o$25bo13b3o4b2o51b2o110b2o$37b2o3bo3b2o$36bo2b4o$36b2ob
o15b2o$37bo2b3o12bobo2bo$37bo5bo13bo2b3o$38b5o7bo6b3o3bo$40bo10b2o7b3o
$50b2o7bo$4bo54b2o$2b5o14b2o$bo5bo13bo42b2o$bo2b3o12bobo41bobo$2obo9b
3o3b2o44bo18bo142bo$o2b4o6b2obo67bobo138bobo$b2o3bo5bo3bo67b2o140b2o$
3b3o7b3o33b2o$3bo9b3o32bobo5b2o$2obo44bo7b2o$2ob2o42b2o2$61bo$11b2o44b
2obobo$12bo43bobobobo$9b3o41bo2bobobob2o$9bo43b4ob2o2bo$26b2o29bo4bo$
26bobo24b2o2bob3o$26bo26b2o3b2o9bobo168bobo$69b2o170b2o$70bo170bo9$47b
o$47b3o$41b2o7bo$40b2o7b2o4bo200bo$42bo11bo202bo$54b3o198b3o5$59b2o$
52b2o5bobo$52b2o7bo$61b2o2$48bo$47bobob2o$47bobobobo$46b2obobobo2bo
213bo$47bo2b2ob4o214b2o$47bo4bo217b2o$48b3obo2b2o$50b2o3b2o11$286bo$
284bobo$285b2o13$299bobo$300b2o$300bo!

A more quetzal-like p59 gun could be built using the same reaction as in the p58 gun.

[Book]

My modest objective is to have an example for each period, with no criteria other than it be a valid Quetzal, based on the definition in that article, however imprecise (we have a number of such terms in our vernacular). I believe we now have such for all but Q60 and Q58. So if anyone can point me to a valid example, please do.

[GUYTU6J]

If you have spent some time reading old posts, or at least tried searching on the forums, you will be able to find some posts such as this one.

[Sokwe]

I believe we now have such for all but Q60 and Q58.

Q58 is here. Q60 is the following (from jslife):

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x = 100, y = 72, rule = B3/S23
19bo$19b3o5b2o18b2o$22bo4bo19bo24b2o15bo$4b2o15bo3bobo20b3o6b2o13bo8b
2o5bobo$5bo14bo3bobo23bo6b2o11bobo7bo2bo5bo$5bobo12b2o3bo44b2o9bobo$6b
2o2b2o52b2o11b4obo4b5o$10b2o51b3ob2o8b2ob2o5bo4bo$23bo2bo35b2o3b2o11bo
9bo2bo$22bo3b2o18bo4bobo7bo2bobo23b2obo2bo$22bo3bo17b2ob2o2bo2bobo3b2o
2b3o20bo5bobobo$22bo3bo12b2o3bo2bo5b3o5b2obobo19bobo4bo2bo$23bo2bo12b
2o4b2o3b2o2bo7bo23bo2bo2b2o$25bo23bo2bo19bo14b2o$50b2o21bo8bo$6bobo62b
3o6b2ob2o$7bo75b2o$79bo3bobo$4b2o36b2o$3bobo16b2o19bo24b2o3bo6bo$3bo7b
o10bobo17bo13b2o3b2o5bo3bobo6b3o$2b2o5b4o11bo17b2o13bo3bo7bo3b2o6b3o$
8b2o3bo4b2o4b2o28b3o5b3o5bo9b2o$8b5o5bo2bo32bo9bo3bob5o4b2o14b2o$10b2o
8b2o45bobo4bo16b2o2bo$11bo55bo2b3obob2o13bobobo$11bo54b2o4bo2bobo16bo$
73bobo$74b2o11bo4bo$88b2obobo$87b2o3bo$93b3o$95bo4$86bo$bo83b3o$b3o80b
2o2bo$4bo78bob4o$3bobo77bobo$4bo6bo9b2o60b3o$9b2ob2o7bobo$2bo5b2ob3o5b
obo2bo4b2o50b2ob2o$bobobo2b5o6b2obob3o2bo51b5o$bo2b2o3b3o10bo4bobo45b
2o3bo2b3ob3o$2o8bo11b5obo3bo9bo32bo2b4o$26bo5b3o5b3o28b2o4b2o2b2o$22b
2o3bo7bo3bo13b2o17bo20b2o$22bobo3bo5b2o3b2o13bo17bobo18bo$23bo3b2o24bo
19b2o16bobo$53b2o36b2o$78b3o$76b2o$26bo11bo37b2obob2o$27b2o9bo15b2o20b
4o2bo10b2o$8b2o12bobobo11bo14bo2bo20bo4bo10b2o$2ob2o2bo2bo11bobo28bo4b
o19b4o$2obo4bobo31b2o10b6o12bobo3b2o$3bo5bo31bob2o12bob2o11b2o18b3o$2o
bob2o33bo2bo13bobo13bo18b2obo2b2o$2obo2bo9bo24b2o14b2o35b2o2b2o$4bo4bo
5b2ob2o74b2o$5b5o4bob4o$13bobo9b2o44bo3b2o$7bo5bo2bo7bobo11b2o6bo23bob
o3bo$6bobo5b2o8bo13b2o6b3o20bobo3bo$7bo15b2o24bo19bo4bo$48b2o18b2o5b3o
4b2o$77bo5bo8bo$80b3o10bo$80bo10b3o!

[Book]

Thanks! Truth in Quetzals!

[Book]

According to The Book, no Q59 has been found (8.5.3 Quetzals: True-Period 52, 54–58, and 61 Guns). According to the wiki page Quetzals, a Period-59 glider gun is a Q59, and that had been on the wiki page since 2009. What is the truth?

[Entity Valkyrie 2]

Also, as of the discovery of HRx65R, stable Herschel conduits can now output gliders at periods as low as 58. Does that mean that now 57 is the highest "quetzal" period?