(Engineered) diehards

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Re: (Engineered) diehards

Post by HotWheels9232 » July 22nd, 2022, 1:19 pm

I know that we are already to like 99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999..........9999999999999999999999999999999 digits and this is only 3 digits but just this boat:

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x = 99, y = 100, rule = B3/S23
21bobo$22b2o$22bo13bob2ob2o$36b2obobo2bo$43b2o2$35b2ob2o$34bobobo$35bo
2bo$36b2o31$2o$2o3$3b2o$3b2o11$97b2o$97b2o$92b2o$92b2o3$59bo$58bobo2$
58bobo$58b3o$59bo2$47b2o$47b2o10b2o$59b2o$87b2o$88bo$85b3o$85bo22$77b
2o$76bobo$77bo!
Edit 1:
1 time turner fever:

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x = 98, y = 100, rule = B3/S23
20bobo$21b2o$21bo13bob2ob2o$35b2obobo2bo$42b2o2$34b2ob2o$33bobobo$34bo
2bo$35b2o21$9b2o$9b2o12$bo$obo6b2o$b2o5bobo$9bo10$96b2o$96b2o$91b2o$
91b2o3$58bo$57bobo2$57bobo$57b3o$58bo2$46b2o$46b2o10b2o$58b2o$86b2o$
87bo$84b3o$84bo22$76b2o$75bobo$76bo!
Does this count?

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x = 98, y = 100, rule = B3/S23
20bobo$21b2o$21bo13bob2ob2o$35b2obobo2bo$42b2o2$34b2ob2o$33bobobo$34bo
2bo$35b2o21$9b2o$9b2o12$bo$obo$b2o7b2o$9bobo$10bo9$96b2o$96b2o$91b2o$
91b2o3$58bo$57bobo2$57bobo$57b3o$58bo2$46b2o$46b2o10b2o$58b2o$86b2o$
87bo$84b3o$84bo22$76b2o$75bobo$76bo!
My rules:
B34q/S23-k(ObliquePufferLife) and
B2n3-n4c5c/S234cz5cPM me to get some help on making rules!

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x = 8, y = 5, rule = B3-k/S23
2o3b2o$obo2bobo$2bo2bo$bo$b2o!

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Re: (Engineered) diehards

Post by Kazyan » July 25th, 2022, 2:59 pm

This is almost a tetrational diehard with more layers:

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x = 108, y = 92, rule = LifeHistory
6.A2.A10.2A25.A.4A.A.A.A$7.2A10.A2.A24.A6.A.A$20.2A27.A6.A$49.3A2.A.A
27.2A15.A$4.2A4.2A35.A10.A25.2A8.2A5.A$4.3A2.3A28.2A13.2A36.A2.A4.A$
7.2A32.A52.2A8.2A$5.A4.A30.A.A6.2A29.2A21.A.A$4.A6.A30.2A6.A.A28.2A
22.A$7.2A44.A7.2A$5.2A2.2A25.3A11.A2.A7.2A21.2A8.A$7.2A18.2A6.3A15.A
30.2A6.3A4.2A$27.2A13.A7.A.A38.A7.2A$41.A.A6.2A39.2A$42.A$20.2A17.A5.
A50.2A7.3A$20.2A6.A9.A.A3.A.A18.A30.2A6.A.A$28.2A7.A.A5.A3.2A13.A.A
37.A$28.2A6.A.A3.A6.2A14.2A32.A2.A.A.2A$29.A5.A.A3.A.A9.A5.2A22.A.A
13.2A3.2A.A$34.A.A5.A9.A.A3.A2.A23.A17.A.A.A$33.A.A17.A.A3.2A20.A.A
21.2A$32.A.A19.A.A24.A23.A$31.A.A21.A24.A.A$30.A.A6.2A5.2A4.A27.2A$
18.2A3.2A4.A.A7.2A5.A4.A.A3.2A20.A$19.5A6.A13.A.A5.A4.A.A20.2A$19.2A.
2A20.2A12.2A13.2A6.A$19.2A.2A10.2A37.2A$20.3A4.2A5.2A$27.2A23.2A22.2A
$52.A23.2A$39.A10.A.A13.2A$38.A.A9.2A14.A.A13.2A$18.2A4.2A5.2A4.A.2A
26.2A4.2A6.A.A4.3A$19.A4.A.A4.2A3.2A.2A22.A9.2A6.2A5.3A$16.3A6.2A10.A
.2A21.A.A13.A8.A3.A$16.A21.A.A22.A6.A6.A.A8.5A10.A.A$28.A10.A29.A.A4.
A.A10.4A11.4A$27.A.A39.A.A3.A.A24.A.2A$A21.2A4.A.A39.A5.A6.A18.A4.A$A
23.A4.A.A25.2A8.A5.A7.3A18.3A.2A$A20.A8.A25.A.A7.A.A3.A.A5.A7.2A13.3A
.A$22.2A31.A2.A.A6.A5.A6.2A6.2A12.A3.2A$40.A14.2A2.2A3.A5.A33.A.A$17.
A16.2A3.A.A10.A10.A.A3.A.A12.A17.A2.A.A$17.C2A14.2A4.A10.A.A10.A5.A7.
A5.A18.A.A$.A13.2D3.A31.A8.A5.A9.3A4.A$.A14.2D.2A39.A.A3.A.A7.A3.A8.A
$.A44.A14.A5.A7.A.3A.A7.A$45.A.A10.A5.A11.5A8.A$4.A41.A.A8.A.A3.A.A$
4.A4.2A.A34.2A9.A5.A$4.A4.3A4.2A.2A40.A$9.A.A.A2.A3.A39.A.A$9.A3.A3.
3A41.A$4.A2.2A2.4A20.A33.A25.2A$.A5.A.4A22.2A6.A25.3A22.A2.A$.A.2A.2A
.4A4.3A14.A.A5.A.A27.A22.A.A$A7.A3.A3.A3.A21.2A5.A21.2A15.2A6.A$.2A5.
2A6.2A.2A27.A.A29.2A6.2A$A7.A.A.A.2A33.A3.2A25.A$A7.8A36.A.A26.3A$2A.
A3.3A3.2A24.A12.2A29.A7.2A$A2.A8.2A25.2A7.A42.2A9.A2.A.A$.4A4.A.3A25.
2A6.A.A53.A.A.A$.4A3.4A28.A7.2A38.2A14.A$2.2A.2A.A2.A76.2A17.A$105.A$
103.2A2.A$12.A.3A10.A15.2A57.3A.2A$12.A.4A7.A.A15.2A4.A7.2A5.A37.2A3.
A$12.A5.A7.2A20.A.A5.A.A4.A.A36.A.A.2A$13.A.A.A2.3A26.A6.A6.2A38.A$
14.A.A.4A24.A8.2A45.3A2.A$15.A2.A.2A23.A.A54.2A.A.A$15.A3.3A.A18.A3.A
$16.3A2.2A.A15.3A8.2A.2A14.A$22.A16.A11.A.2A2.A2.2A3.A4.2A$23.A2.A12.
2A15.2A2.2A2.2A5.2A$24.A2.A37.2A4.A26.3A4.A$25.2A3.A16.2A.2A14.A3.A
26.A2.A4.2A$26.5A16.A.2A2.A43.A2.A2.A.A.A$27.4A21.2A50.2A.A$27.A.A72.
A.A.2A$26.A.2A.A11.2A.2A14.A2.2A23.A13.A$26.A3.A.A10.A.2A2.A10.3A2.2A
2.A16.A.5A3.2A5.2A.A$26.A2.A2.2A14.2A13.2A2.3A18.2A.2A4.A4.A.2A.A$27.
2A.A.2A29.2A2.3A19.2A2.2A11.A$29.A2.2A5.2A.2A19.2A6.A2.A9.2A2.2A.A14.
A$30.A8.A.2A2.A18.A6.3A10.A3.2A.6A2.2A$31.3A10.2A39.A2.A3.5A2.2A!
There's supposed to be a glider on the red calls, in order to complete the crab cleanup salvo, but I haven't found a predecessor of anything to insert that missing glider into the salvo while keeping the eater in place.

EDIT: Completed, with a lot of space dust. Every two boats functions like one toad, and the blinker at the back of the boats is harmlessly mowed over, so this has 16 layers.

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x = 108, y = 92, rule = B3/S23
20b2o25bob4obobobo$5bo2bo10bo2bo24bo6bobo$6b2o12b2o27bo6bo$49b3o2bobo
27b2o15bo$47bo10bo25b2o8b2o5bo$3b2o4b2o29b2o13b2o36bo2bo4bo$3b3o2b3o
30bo52b2o8b2o$6b2o33bobo6b2o29b2o21bobo$4bo4bo32b2o6bobo28b2o22bo$3bo
6bo42bo7b2o$6b2o28b3o11bo2bo7b2o21b2o8bo$4b2o2b2o17b2o6b3o15bo30b2o6b
3o4b2o$6b2o19b2o13bo7bobo38bo7b2o$41bobo6b2o39b2o$42bo$20b2o17bo5bo50b
2o7b3o$20b2o6bo9bobo3bobo18bo30b2o6bobo$28b2o7bobo5bo3b2o13bobo37bo$
28b2o6bobo3bo6b2o14b2o32bo2bobob2o$29bo5bobo3bobo9bo5b2o22bobo13b2o3b
2obo$34bobo5bo9bobo3bo2bo23bo17bobobo$33bobo17bobo3b2o20bobo21b2o$32bo
bo19bobo24bo23bo$31bobo21bo24bobo$30bobo6b2o5b2o4bo27b2o$18b2o3b2o4bob
o7b2o5bo4bobo3b2o20bo$19b5o6bo13bobo5bo4bobo20b2o$19b2ob2o20b2o12b2o
13b2o6bo$19b2ob2o10b2o37b2o$20b3o4b2o5b2o$27b2o23b2o22b2o$52bo23b2o$
39bo10bobo13b2o$38bobo9b2o14bobo13b2o$18b2o4b2o5b2o4bob2o26b2o4b2o6bob
o4b3o$19bo4bobo4b2o3b2ob2o22bo9b2o6b2o5b3o$16b3o6b2o10bob2o21bobo13bo
8bo3bo$16bo21bobo22bo6bo6bobo8b5o10bobo$28bo10bo29bobo4bobo10b4o11b4o$
2o4bobo4bo13bobo39bobo3bobo24bob2o$6bobo3bo2bo2bo3b2o4bobo39bo5bo6bo
18bo4bo$o2b3o3b4obo3bo5bo4bobo25b2o8bo5bo7b3o18b3ob2o$o2bo3bo3bo2b3obo
2bo8bo25bobo7bobo3bobo5bo7b2o13b3obo$o2bob5obobobo6b2o31bo2bobo6bo5bo
6b2o6b2o12bo3b2o$bob2obo6b2o3bo21bo14b2o2b2o3bo5bo33bobo$2o2bo2b2o3bo
2bobo16b2o3bobo10bo10bobo3bobo12bo17bo2bobo$2b2obo4bob2o5bo14b2o4bo10b
obo10bo5bo7bo5bo18bobo$5bo3b2o2b2obo2bo32bo8bo5bo9b3o4bo$2o6bobo6bobo
40bobo3bobo7bo3bo8bo$ob2o3b2o6b2o2b2o25bo14bo5bo7bob3obo7bo$4ob2o4bob
3obob2o24bobo10bo5bo11b5o8bo$4b2ob2o2b2obo3b2o26bobo8bobo3bobo$3b2o2bo
5bo5b2o26b2o9bo5bo$obo2bo6bobo5bo40bo$2bo2b2o2bobobobo2bo41bobo$o6bob
3o3bob3o41bo$b2o4b2o8b2o16bo33bo25b2o$ob2obo3bobo2b2o3bo15b2o6bo25b3o
22bo2bo$2o2bo2bo5bob2obo15bobo5bobo27bo22bobo$obo5b2o3bob2o2bo22b2o5bo
21b2o15b2o6bo$ob2o2b2ob2ob2ob2o2b2o27bobo29b2o6b2o$o3b2o5b2o2b4o30bo3b
2o25bo$o3b2o2bob2o3bo3b2o31bobo26b3o$4b3o2bobo2bo4b2o18bo12b2o29bo7b2o
$2ob5o4b8o19b2o7bo42b2o9bo2bobo$6b2obobo4bob2o19b2o6bobo53bobobo$3obob
2o3bo2bob4o20bo7b2o38b2o14bo$b2obo4bo2bobob2o70b2o17bo$bo2b3obobo94bo$
o2bobobo95b2o2bo$12bob3o10bo15b2o57b3ob2o$12bob4o7bobo15b2o4bo7b2o5bo
37b2o3bo$12bo5bo7b2o20bobo5bobo4bobo36bobob2o$13bobobo2b3o26bo6bo6b2o
38bo$14bobob4o24bo8b2o45b3o2bo$15bo2bob2o23bobo54b2obobo$15bo3b3obo18b
o3bo$16b3o2b2obo15b3o8b2ob2o14bo$22bo16bo11bob2o2bo2b2o3bo4b2o$23bo2bo
12b2o15b2o2b2o2b2o5b2o$24bo2bo37b2o4bo26b3o4bo$25b2o3bo16b2ob2o14bo3bo
26bo2bo4b2o$26b5o16bob2o2bo43bo2bo2bobobo$27b4o21b2o50b2obo$27bobo72bo
bob2o$26bob2obo11b2ob2o14bo2b2o23bo13bo$26bo3bobo10bob2o2bo10b3o2b2o2b
o16bob5o3b2o5b2obo$26bo2bo2b2o14b2o13b2o2b3o18b2ob2o4bo4bob2obo$27b2ob
ob2o29b2o2b3o19b2o2b2o11bo$29bo2b2o5b2ob2o19b2o6bo2bo9b2o2b2obo14bo$
30bo8bob2o2bo18bo6b3o10bo3b2ob6o2b2o$31b3o10b2o39bo2bo3b5o2b2o!
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Re: (Engineered) diehards

Post by Pavgran » July 26th, 2022, 9:02 am

Kazyan wrote:
July 25th, 2022, 2:59 pm
EDIT: Completed, with a lot of space dust. Every two boats functions like one toad, and the blinker at the back of the boats is harmlessly mowed over, so this has 16 layers.

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x = 108, y = 92, rule = B3/S23
20b2o25bob4obobobo$5bo2bo10bo2bo24bo6bobo$6b2o12b2o27bo6bo$49b3o2bobo
27b2o15bo$47bo10bo25b2o8b2o5bo$3b2o4b2o29b2o13b2o36bo2bo4bo$3b3o2b3o
30bo52b2o8b2o$6b2o33bobo6b2o29b2o21bobo$4bo4bo32b2o6bobo28b2o22bo$3bo
6bo42bo7b2o$6b2o28b3o11bo2bo7b2o21b2o8bo$4b2o2b2o17b2o6b3o15bo30b2o6b
3o4b2o$6b2o19b2o13bo7bobo38bo7b2o$41bobo6b2o39b2o$42bo$20b2o17bo5bo50b
2o7b3o$20b2o6bo9bobo3bobo18bo30b2o6bobo$28b2o7bobo5bo3b2o13bobo37bo$
28b2o6bobo3bo6b2o14b2o32bo2bobob2o$29bo5bobo3bobo9bo5b2o22bobo13b2o3b
2obo$34bobo5bo9bobo3bo2bo23bo17bobobo$33bobo17bobo3b2o20bobo21b2o$32bo
bo19bobo24bo23bo$31bobo21bo24bobo$30bobo6b2o5b2o4bo27b2o$18b2o3b2o4bob
o7b2o5bo4bobo3b2o20bo$19b5o6bo13bobo5bo4bobo20b2o$19b2ob2o20b2o12b2o
13b2o6bo$19b2ob2o10b2o37b2o$20b3o4b2o5b2o$27b2o23b2o22b2o$52bo23b2o$
39bo10bobo13b2o$38bobo9b2o14bobo13b2o$18b2o4b2o5b2o4bob2o26b2o4b2o6bob
o4b3o$19bo4bobo4b2o3b2ob2o22bo9b2o6b2o5b3o$16b3o6b2o10bob2o21bobo13bo
8bo3bo$16bo21bobo22bo6bo6bobo8b5o10bobo$28bo10bo29bobo4bobo10b4o11b4o$
2o4bobo4bo13bobo39bobo3bobo24bob2o$6bobo3bo2bo2bo3b2o4bobo39bo5bo6bo
18bo4bo$o2b3o3b4obo3bo5bo4bobo25b2o8bo5bo7b3o18b3ob2o$o2bo3bo3bo2b3obo
2bo8bo25bobo7bobo3bobo5bo7b2o13b3obo$o2bob5obobobo6b2o31bo2bobo6bo5bo
6b2o6b2o12bo3b2o$bob2obo6b2o3bo21bo14b2o2b2o3bo5bo33bobo$2o2bo2b2o3bo
2bobo16b2o3bobo10bo10bobo3bobo12bo17bo2bobo$2b2obo4bob2o5bo14b2o4bo10b
obo10bo5bo7bo5bo18bobo$5bo3b2o2b2obo2bo32bo8bo5bo9b3o4bo$2o6bobo6bobo
40bobo3bobo7bo3bo8bo$ob2o3b2o6b2o2b2o25bo14bo5bo7bob3obo7bo$4ob2o4bob
3obob2o24bobo10bo5bo11b5o8bo$4b2ob2o2b2obo3b2o26bobo8bobo3bobo$3b2o2bo
5bo5b2o26b2o9bo5bo$obo2bo6bobo5bo40bo$2bo2b2o2bobobobo2bo41bobo$o6bob
3o3bob3o41bo$b2o4b2o8b2o16bo33bo25b2o$ob2obo3bobo2b2o3bo15b2o6bo25b3o
22bo2bo$2o2bo2bo5bob2obo15bobo5bobo27bo22bobo$obo5b2o3bob2o2bo22b2o5bo
21b2o15b2o6bo$ob2o2b2ob2ob2ob2o2b2o27bobo29b2o6b2o$o3b2o5b2o2b4o30bo3b
2o25bo$o3b2o2bob2o3bo3b2o31bobo26b3o$4b3o2bobo2bo4b2o18bo12b2o29bo7b2o
$2ob5o4b8o19b2o7bo42b2o9bo2bobo$6b2obobo4bob2o19b2o6bobo53bobobo$3obob
2o3bo2bob4o20bo7b2o38b2o14bo$b2obo4bo2bobob2o70b2o17bo$bo2b3obobo94bo$
o2bobobo95b2o2bo$12bob3o10bo15b2o57b3ob2o$12bob4o7bobo15b2o4bo7b2o5bo
37b2o3bo$12bo5bo7b2o20bobo5bobo4bobo36bobob2o$13bobobo2b3o26bo6bo6b2o
38bo$14bobob4o24bo8b2o45b3o2bo$15bo2bob2o23bobo54b2obobo$15bo3b3obo18b
o3bo$16b3o2b2obo15b3o8b2ob2o14bo$22bo16bo11bob2o2bo2b2o3bo4b2o$23bo2bo
12b2o15b2o2b2o2b2o5b2o$24bo2bo37b2o4bo26b3o4bo$25b2o3bo16b2ob2o14bo3bo
26bo2bo4b2o$26b5o16bob2o2bo43bo2bo2bobobo$27b4o21b2o50b2obo$27bobo72bo
bob2o$26bob2obo11b2ob2o14bo2b2o23bo13bo$26bo3bobo10bob2o2bo10b3o2b2o2b
o16bob5o3b2o5b2obo$26bo2bo2b2o14b2o13b2o2b3o18b2ob2o4bo4bob2obo$27b2ob
ob2o29b2o2b3o19b2o2b2o11bo$29bo2b2o5b2ob2o19b2o6bo2bo9b2o2b2obo14bo$
30bo8bob2o2bo18bo6b3o10bo3b2ob6o2b2o$31b3o10b2o39bo2bo3b5o2b2o!
Wow, that's a nice design!.. Potentially. Unfortunately, it doesn't work. The second sawtooth's block-pulling reaction just cleanly deletes the boat:

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x = 231, y = 211, rule = LifeSuper
171.2Q$171.Q.Q$141.2Q29.Q$140.Q2.Q33.Q$141.2Q33.Q.Q$176.Q2.Q25.2M$
177.2Q26.2M8.2Q4.3Q$161.2M51.Q2.Q$162.M52.2Q8.2Q$162.M.M9.2M26.2M21.Q
.Q$163.2M8.M3.M24.2M22.Q$158.O13.M5.M3.2M$156.O2.O12.M3.M.2M2.2M21.2M
8.M$148.2Q6.O2.O12.M5.M26.2M6.3M4.2M$148.2Q7.O15.M3.M34.M7.2M$168.M5.
2M36.2M$166.M.M$141.2M24.2M48.2M$141.2M6.2O35.Q30.2M$148.O36.Q.Q15.2M
2.M$151.O34.2Q32.2M$149.2O29.2Q21.M3.M12.2M7.M$179.Q2.Q20.M23.3M$180.
2Q22.M.M19.M$141.3M82.2M$204.3M$141.M.M16.2O5.2O19.M$140.5M15.2O5.O
18.2M$139.2M3.2M19.O.O19.2M$139.2M3.2M19.2O27.2M$155.2O37.2M23.M$155.
2O61.M$173.2M22.2M17.M.M$173.M23.2M19.M$163.M7.M.M41.M.M$163.M.M5.2M
42.M$139.2M11.2M12.2M26.2M19.M.M$140.M11.2M12.2M26.2M13.2M5.2M$137.3M
26.2M41.2M$137.M25.M.M31.M$163.M33.M.M12.2M$197.2M13.2M14.Q$144.O59.M
22.Q.Q$143.2O6.3M48.3M22.Q2.Q$143.2O6.M49.M7.2M17.2Q$143.O8.M48.2M6.
2M$197.M27.Q$138.M34.O21.2M27.Q.Q$138.M2O8.2W21.O.O21.2M6.3Q18.2Q$
141.O6.W24.O7.2M$140.2O9.W28.2M$149.2W31.M26.3Q3$196.2M3.2M2$197.M3.M
$198.3M$198.3M15.2Q$164.O50.Q2.Q$163.O.O50.Q.Q$163.2O44.2M6.Q$201.2M
6.2M$201.M$202.3M$160.2O11.2pA29.M7.2M$159.O13.2pA9.2M26.2M11.Q$162.O
21.M.M37.Q.Q$160.2O22.M24.2M14.2Q$209.2M$129.W$129.W99.Q$129.W98.Q.Q$
185.Q43.2Q$125.2W57.Q.Q$124.W.W57.2Q$125.W2$121.2W$120.W.W88.2M$121.W
59.2M5.2M20.2M$181.2M5.2M22.M$117.2W107.2M$116.W.W66.2M28.2M9.M$117.W
67.2M25.2M2.M10.3M$189.3M20.M2.M4.2M7.M$113.2W73.2M.M21.3M4.2M$112.W.
W72.2M.M$113.W74.M.M17.2M7.2M8.Q$189.2M4.M12.2M7.2M7.Q.Q$109.2W82.M.M
31.2Q$108.W.W83.2M9.2M5.2M$109.W95.2M5.2M6.2M$220.2M$105.2W108.2Q$
104.W.W108.2Q$105.W$202.2M$101.2W99.M.M$100.W.W101.M$101.W102.2M2$97.
2W$96.W.W$97.W2$93.2W$92.W.W$93.W2$89.2W$88.W.W$89.W2$85.2W$84.W.W$
85.W2$81.2W$80.W.W$81.W2$77.2W$76.W.W$77.W2$73.2W$72.W.W$73.W2$69.2W$
68.W.W$69.W2$65.2W$64.W.W$65.W2$61.2W$60.W.W$61.W2$57.2W$56.W.W$57.W
2$53.2W$52.W.W$53.W2$49.2W$48.W.W$49.W2$45.2W$44.W.W$45.W2$41.2W$40.W
.W$41.W2$37.2W$36.W.W$37.W2$33.2W$32.W.W$33.W2$29.2W$28.W.W$29.W2$25.
2W$24.W.W$25.W2$21.2W$20.W.W$21.W2$17.2W$16.W.W$17.W2$13.2W$12.W.W$
13.W2$9.2W$8.W.W$9.W2$5.2W$4.W.W$5.W2$.2W$W.W$.W9$3.2pA$3.2pA!
Also, two initial gliders that are bouncing off the c/3 to make a delaying block place it near the boat-row, and reactions from that block supposed to eat a few pairs of second sawtooth's gliders interact with boats and explode. But that's a minor problem as these gliders are completely unnecessary.

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Re: (Engineered) diehards

Post by Kazyan » July 26th, 2022, 9:35 am

Yikes, I should have been more careful when measuring distances! The boat deletion event is supposed to look like this:

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x = 49, y = 25, rule = B3/S23
13b2o26b2o$12bobo25bobo$13bo27bo2$9b2o26b2o$8bobo25bobo$9bo27bo2$5b2o
10bo15b2o12bo$4bobo9bo15bobo11bo$5bo3bobo4b3o14bo5bobo4b3o$9b2o28b2o$b
2o7bo18b2o9bo$obo25bobo$bo27bo9$b2o28b2o$b2o28b2o!
...which simply requires moving the crabstretcher and copperhead activation downwards by 2 cells, which I can finagle with some more time in LLS.
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Re: (Engineered) diehards

Post by Pavgran » July 26th, 2022, 10:42 am

Kazyan wrote:
July 26th, 2022, 9:35 am
Yikes, I should have been more careful when measuring distances! The boat deletion event is supposed to look like this:

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x = 49, y = 25, rule = B3/S23
13b2o26b2o$12bobo25bobo$13bo27bo2$9b2o26b2o$8bobo25bobo$9bo27bo2$5b2o
10bo15b2o12bo$4bobo9bo15bobo11bo$5bo3bobo4b3o14bo5bobo4b3o$9b2o28b2o$b
2o7bo18b2o9bo$obo25bobo$bo27bo9$b2o28b2o$b2o28b2o!
...which simply requires moving the crabstretcher and copperhead activation downwards by 2 cells, which I can finagle with some more time in LLS.
...Except the fuse-burning reaction destroys the c/3 ship in that case :(

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Re: (Engineered) diehards

Post by HotWheels9232 » July 26th, 2022, 11:54 am

Pavgran wrote:
July 26th, 2022, 10:42 am
Kazyan wrote:
July 26th, 2022, 9:35 am
Yikes, I should have been more careful when measuring distances! The boat deletion event is supposed to look like this:

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x = 49, y = 25, rule = B3/S23
13b2o26b2o$12bobo25bobo$13bo27bo2$9b2o26b2o$8bobo25bobo$9bo27bo2$5b2o
10bo15b2o12bo$4bobo9bo15bobo11bo$5bo3bobo4b3o14bo5bobo4b3o$9b2o28b2o$b
2o7bo18b2o9bo$obo25bobo$bo27bo9$b2o28b2o$b2o28b2o!
...which simply requires moving the crabstretcher and copperhead activation downwards by 2 cells, which I can finagle with some more time in LLS.
...Except the fuse-burning reaction destroys the c/3 ship in that case :(
But that is exactly what we want for the pattern to die out!
My rules:
B34q/S23-k(ObliquePufferLife) and
B2n3-n4c5c/S234cz5cPM me to get some help on making rules!

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x = 8, y = 5, rule = B3-k/S23
2o3b2o$obo2bobo$2bo2bo$bo$b2o!

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Re: (Engineered) diehards

Post by Kazyan » July 26th, 2022, 12:26 pm

Welp, back to the drawing board of finding a fuse that will puff objects that eat the block.
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Re: (Engineered) diehards

Post by toroidalet » August 2nd, 2022, 9:03 pm

A very slight improvement to the current record:

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x = 111, y = 90, rule = LifeSuper
21.6Q23.8Q.Q$19.10Q21.2Q.Q.Q4.3Q24.2M15.Q$21.Q4.Q26.Q3.2Q28.2M8.Q6.Q$
43.2M13.2Q2.Q34.2Q5.Q$44.M12.Q40.Q8.2Q$44.M.M6.2M3.Q.Q.Q21.2M21.Q.Q$
45.2M6.M.M28.2M22.Q$56.M7.2M$39.3O11.M2.M7.2M21.2M8.M$30.2Q6.3O15.M
30.2M6.3M4.2M$30.2Q13.pA7.M.M38.M7.2M$44.pA.pA6.2M39.2M$45.pA$23.2M
17.pA5.pA50.2M7.3M$23.2M6.O9.pA.pA3.pA.pA18.Q30.2M6.M.M$31.2O7.pA.pA
5.pA3.2pA13.Q.Q37.M$31.2O6.pA.pA3.pA6.2pA14.2Q32.M2.M.M.2M$32.O5.pA.pA
3.pA.pA9.pA5.2Q22.M.M13.2M3.2M.M$37.pA.pA5.pA9.pA.pA3.Q2.Q23.M17.M.M.
M$36.pA.pA17.pA.pA3.2Q20.M.M21.2M$35.pA.pA19.pA.pA24.M23.M$34.pA.pA
21.pA24.M.M$33.pA.pA6.2O5.2O4.pA27.2M$21.2M3.2M4.pA.pA7.2O5.O4.pA.pA
3.2pA20.M$22.5M6.pA13.O.O5.pA4.pA.pA20.2M$22.2M.2M20.2O12.2pA13.2M6.M
$22.2M.2M10.2O37.2M$23.3M4.2pA5.2O$30.2pA23.2M22.2M$55.M23.2M$42.M10.
M.M13.2pA$41.M.M9.2M14.pA.pA13.2S$21.2M4.2pA5.2M4.M.2M26.2pA4.2M6.S.S
4.3M$22.M4.pA.pA4.2M3.2M.2M22.pA9.2M6.2S5.3M$19.3M6.2pA10.M.2M21.pA.pA
13.S8.M3.M$19.M21.M.M22.pA6.S6.S.S8.5M10.Q.Q$31.pA10.M29.S.S4.S.S10.
4M11.4Q$30.pA.pA39.S.S3.S.S24.Q.2Q$25.2O4.pA.pA39.S5.S6.M18.Q4.Q$27.O
4.pA.pA25.2S8.S5.S7.3M18.3Q.2Q$24.O8.pA25.S.S7.S.S3.S.S5.M7.2M13.3Q.Q
$25.2O31.S2.S.S6.S5.S6.2M6.2M12.Q3.2Q$43.pA14.2S2.2S3.S5.S33.Q.Q$20.O
16.2pA3.pA.pA10.O10.S.S3.S.S12.Q17.Q2.Q.Q$20.3O8.W5.2pA4.pA10.O.O10.S
5.S7.M5.Q18.Q.Q$23.O7.2W22.O8.S5.S9.3M4.Q$13.W8.2O7.2W9.U20.S.S3.S.S
7.M3.M8.Q$12.W6.W12.W9.U.U19.S5.S7.M.3M.M7.Q$12.3W3.W.W6.W14.2U17.S5.
S11.5M8.Q$17.W2.W6.2W31.S.S3.S.S$17.W.W7.2W32.S5.S$18.W3.W5.W35.S$21.
W.W39.S.S$21.W2.W39.S$22.W.W47.S25.Q$12.W10.W22.O25.3S23.2Q$12.W.W4.W
25.O.O27.S23.2Q$5.W6.2W5.2W24.2O5.S21.2S15.2M$4.W14.2W30.S.S29.2M6.2M
$4.3W13.W31.S3.2S25.M$15.W9.M29.S.S26.3M$15.2W7.M2.M14.O12.2S29.M7.2M
$15.2W4.2M.M2.M14.2O7.S42.2M9.Q2.Q.Q$16.W5.M5.M13.2O6.S.S53.Q.Q.Q$11.
W11.5M15.O7.2S38.2M14.Q$11.2W11.M.M.M62.2M17.Q$11.2W11.5M79.Q$W11.W
12.M7.M72.2Q2.Q$W.W4.W18.4M75.3Q.2Q$2W5.2W18.M3.2M19.pA7.2S5.Q37.2Q3.
Q$7.2W4.W.W17.M17.pA.pA5.S.S4.Q.Q36.Q.Q.2Q$8.W4.2W19.M2.M14.pA6.S6.2Q
38.Q$W13.W20.M13.pA8.2S45.3Q2.Q$.3W.W29.M12.pA.pA54.2Q.Q.Q$.W2.2W43.pA
5.U$4.W31.M17.U2.U15.M$W.2W.W30.M.2M.M4.2pA6.U2.U5.2M3.M4.2M$2W33.2M.
M.M.2M2.2pA8.U6.2M2.2M5.2M$W35.M.3M27.2M4.M26.3M4.M$.W.W33.2M.M3.M6.
2U16.M3.M26.M2.M4.2M$38.3M.2M6.U2.U46.M2.M2.M.M.M$40.M10.U2.U52.2M.M$
41.2M4.U4.2U51.M.M.2M$9.4W29.M3.U2.U6.2U7.M2.2M23.M13.M$9.W3.W2.2W2.
2W3.W20.U2.U5.U2.U4.3M2.2M2.M16.M.5M3.2M5.2Q.Q$9.W6.3W4.W10.2W.W.W2.W
5.U5.U2.U8.2M2.3M18.2M.2M4.M4.Q.2Q.Q$10.W4.4W.W2.W11.W.W3.W13.2U9.2M
2.3M19.2M2.2M11.Q$15.2W.W.W.W.W10.W4.2W3.2W19.2M6.M2.M9.2M2.2M.M14.Q$
16.10W10.3W2.2W.W22.M6.3M10.M3.2M.6M2.M$35.9W2.W41.M2.M3.5Q2.2M!
The main improvement is the MWSS edgeshooter and extra glider, allowing the second LWSS and glider salvo to be advanced, which moves the c/5 ship forward (as does the new LWSS edgeshooter), restoring a block and block eater (the snakes-siamese-carriers have been replaced with toads and mangos—available wherever snakes-siamese-carrier are sold!). A pink tub has also been restored, and some still-lives have been replaced with predecessors for the entirely whimsical purpose of making the population exactly 1,000 cells.
Before the fuse version renders this obsolete, some possible improvements include using a predecessor to advance the first glider/LWSS salvo (thereby hopefully advancing the second one), using a different LWSS edgeshooter to give us two mangoes instead of one, and restoring the block-creating gliders.
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Re: (Engineered) diehards

Post by Pavgran » July 7th, 2023, 12:47 pm

Something along these lines could potentially work:

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x = 108, y = 92, rule = LifeSuper
8.2W$8.2W$18.6Q23.8Q.Q$5.W6.W3.10Q21.2Q.Q.Q4.3Q24.2M15.Q$6.2W2.2W6.Q
4.Q26.Q3.2Q28.2M8.Q6.Q$40.2M13.2Q2.Q34.2Q5.Q$7.W2.W30.M12.Q40.Q8.2Q$
6.W.2W.W29.M.M6.2M3.Q.Q.Q21.2M21.Q.Q$7.4W31.2M6.M.M28.2M22.Q$7.W2.W
42.M7.2M$8.2W26.3O11.M2.M7.2M21.2M8.M$8.2W17.2Q6.3O15.M30.2M6.3M4.2M$
27.2Q13.pA7.M.M38.M7.2M$41.pA.pA6.2M39.2M$42.pA$20.2M17.pA5.pA50.2M7.
3M$20.2M6.O9.pA.pA3.pA.pA18.Q30.2M6.M.M$28.2O7.pA.pA5.pA3.2pA13.Q.Q
37.M$28.2O6.pA.pA3.pA6.2pA14.2Q32.M2.M.M.2M$29.O5.pA.pA3.pA.pA9.pA5.
2Q22.M.M13.2M3.2M.M$34.pA.pA5.pA9.pA.pA3.Q2.Q23.M17.M.M.M$33.pA.pA17.
pA.pA3.2Q20.M.M21.2M$32.pA.pA19.pA.pA24.M23.M$31.pA.pA21.pA24.M.M$30.
pA.pA6.2O5.2O4.pA27.2M$18.2M3.2M4.pA.pA7.2O5.O4.pA.pA3.2pA20.M$19.5M
6.pA13.O.O5.pA4.pA.pA20.2M$19.2M.2M20.2O12.2pA13.2M6.M$19.2M.2M10.2O
37.2M$20.3M4.2pA5.2O$27.2pA23.2M22.2M$52.M23.2M$39.M10.M.M13.2pA$38.M
.M9.2M14.pA.pA13.2S$18.2M4.2pA5.2M4.M.2M26.2pA4.2M6.S.S4.3M$19.M4.pA.
pA4.2M3.2M.2M22.pA9.2M6.2S5.3M$16.3M6.2pA10.M.2M21.pA.pA13.S8.M3.M$
16.M21.M.M22.pA6.S6.S.S8.5M10.Q.Q$28.pA10.M29.S.S4.S.S10.4M11.4Q$27.pA
.pA39.S.S3.S.S24.Q.2Q$22.2O4.pA.pA39.S5.S6.M18.Q4.Q$24.O4.pA.pA25.2S
8.S5.S7.3M18.3Q.2Q$3W18.O8.pA25.S.S7.S.S3.S.S5.M7.2M13.3Q.Q$22.2O31.S
2.S.S6.S5.S6.2M6.2M12.Q3.2Q$55.2S2.2S3.S5.S33.Q.Q$17.O34.O10.S.S3.S.S
12.Q17.Q2.Q.Q$17.3O31.O.O10.S5.S7.M5.Q18.Q.Q$20.O31.O8.S5.S9.3M4.Q$
19.2O39.S.S3.S.S7.M3.M8.Q$.3W57.S5.S7.M.3M.M7.Q$58.S5.S11.5M8.Q$57.S.
S3.S.S$58.S5.S$4.3W54.S$17.2W.2W38.S.S$17.W3.W39.S$10.W.W5.3W48.S25.Q
$10.2W7.W19.W3.O25.3S23.2Q$3.2W6.W7.W17.2W3.O.O27.S23.2Q$3.W14.3W17.
2W2.2O5.S21.2S15.2M$W5.3W4.2W2.W3.W26.S.S29.2M6.2M$W.W3.2W2.W.W.W2.2W
.2W27.S3.2S25.M$2W6.2W3.W38.S.S26.3M$9.2W28.O12.2S29.M7.2M$4.W5.2W8.W
18.2O7.S42.2M9.Q2.Q.Q$2.2W6.2W7.W.W17.2O6.S.S53.Q.Q.Q$3.2W5.W8.W2.W
17.O7.2S38.2M14.Q$7.W12.2W66.2M17.Q$7.W.W95.Q$7.2W21.W72.2Q2.Q$12.M.
3M13.W71.3Q.2Q$12.M.4M12.W17.W8.2S5.Q37.2Q3.Q$12.M5.M2.2D3.5W16.W.W6.
S.S4.Q.Q36.Q.Q.2Q$13.M.M.M2.3M19.W5.W.W5.S6.2Q38.Q$14.M.M.4M20.W.W4.
2W4.2S45.3Q2.Q$15.M2.M.2M20.2W58.2Q.Q.Q$15.M3.3M.M$16.3M2.2M.M7.2W36.
M$22.M9.W.W25.2M3.M4.2M$23.M2.M6.W.W24.2M2.2M5.2M$24.M2.M6.W30.2M4.M
26.3M4.M$25.2M3.M35.M3.M26.M2.M4.2M$26.5M66.M2.M2.M.M.M$27.4M73.2M.M$
27.M.M72.M.M.2M$26.M.2M.M11.2U.2U14.M2.2M23.M13.M$26.M3.M.M10.U.2U2.U
10.3M2.2M2.M16.M.5M3.2M5.2Q.Q$26.M2.M2.2M14.2U13.2M2.3M18.2M.2M4.M4.Q
.2Q.Q$27.2M.M.2M29.2M2.3M19.2M2.2M11.Q$29.M2.2M5.2U.2U19.2M6.M2.M9.2M
2.2M.M14.Q$30.M8.U.2U2.U18.M6.3M10.M3.2M.6M2.M$31.3M10.2U39.M2.M3.5Q
2.2M!
Wick is changed close to the c/5 ship to avoid harming it, crab dies cleanly (that block is safely destroyed by block-pulling spark), wick-changing explosion is tamed, the resulting constellation absorbs 3 block-pulling salvos and all that's left is 3 still lives. The resulting number of boats is not as big as it could be, but at least it's something.

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Re: (Engineered) diehards

Post by toroidalet » July 9th, 2023, 1:59 pm

One more layer!

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x = 107, y = 93, rule = LifeSuper
6.2W2.W6.6Q23.8Q.Q$3.W.W.2W.W4.10Q21.2Q.Q.Q4.3Q24.2M$17.Q4.Q26.Q3.2Q
28.2M8.2Q4.3Q$5.W2.W2.W27.2M13.2Q2.Q33.Q2.Q$5.2W2.2W.W27.M12.Q39.2Q8.
2Q$6.4W2.W27.M.M11.Q.Q.Q21.2M21.Q.Q$3.W2.W.W.W30.2M5.4M28.2M22.Q$5.W.
W2.3W23.O10.4M9.2M$3.W.W2.W2.2W21.O2.O9.M2.M9.2M21.2M8.M$3.W6.2W14.2Q
6.O2.O9.4M32.2M6.3M4.2M$4.8W14.2Q7.O5.pA6.4M38.M7.2M$3.3W5.2W27.pA.pA
8.M38.2M$8.2W31.pA$19.2M17.pA5.pA50.2M7.3M$19.2M6.2O8.pA.pA3.pA.pA18.
Q30.2M6.M.M$26.O9.pA.pA5.pA3.2pA13.Q.Q19.M17.M$29.O5.pA.pA3.pA6.2pA
14.2Q19.2M11.M2.M.M.2M$20.M6.2O5.pA.pA3.pA.pA9.pA5.2Q24.M.M11.2M3.2M.
M$19.M.M11.pA.pA5.pA9.pA.pA3.Q2.Q41.M.M.M$18.M3.M9.pA.pA17.pA.pA3.2Q
44.2M$18.5M8.pA.pA19.pA.pA48.M$17.2M3.2M6.pA.pA21.pA$18.5M6.pA.pA6.2O
5.2O4.pA36.M$19.3M6.pA.pA7.2O5.O4.pA.pA3.2pA15.M12.2M.2M$20.M8.pA13.O
.O5.pA4.pA.pA13.3M11.2M.2M$43.2O12.2pA12.2M2.M11.M.3M$33.2O36.2M13.3M
$26.2pA5.2O36.2M9.2M$26.2pA23.2M20.M.M6.2M$51.M23.M$41.2M5.2M.M13.2pA
$40.M.M7.M14.pA.pA13.2S$17.2M4.2pA5.2M7.3M4.M19.2pA4.2M6.S.S$18.M4.pA
.pA4.2M6.3M4.M2.M13.pA9.2M6.2S5.2M$15.3M6.2pA13.3M4.2M13.pA.pA13.S9.
2M$15.M24.M.M19.pA6.S6.S.S23.Q.Q$2.W24.pA13.2M25.S.S4.S.S12.2M11.4Q$
2.W23.pA.pA39.S.S3.S.S13.2M9.Q.2Q$.3W18.O4.pA.pA39.S5.S6.M18.Q4.Q$.2W
18.2O5.pA.pA25.2S8.S5.S7.3M18.3Q.2Q$.2W18.2O6.pA25.S.S7.S.S3.S.S5.M7.
2M13.3Q.Q$.2W18.O32.S2.S.S6.S5.S6.2M6.2M12.Q3.2Q$.3W35.pA14.2S2.2S3.S
5.S33.Q.Q$2.W13.O16.2pA3.pA.pA10.O10.S.S3.S.S30.Q2.Q.Q$2.W13.3O14.2pA
4.pA10.O.O10.S5.S12.3Q17.Q.Q$19.O31.O8.S5.S$18.2O39.S.S3.S.S$3W23.2W
32.S5.S10.M9.3Q$26.2W29.S5.S12.3M$56.S.S3.S.S10.5M$57.S5.S10.M.M.M.M$
3.3W54.S13.2M3.2M$16.2W.2W38.S.S$2W5.2W2.W4.W3.W9.3W27.S$.W2.W2.W2.W.
2W3.3W9.W2.2W34.S8.M16.2Q$2W2.W.2W.2W7.W10.2W.W.W7.O25.3S5.M.M14.Q2.Q
$W2.W.W3.W2.2W4.W15.2W5.O.O27.S4.M17.Q.Q$W5.W2.2W.W4.3W3.2W8.2W6.2O5.
S21.2S5.M2.M6.2M6.Q$W2.W.6W2.W2.W3.W.W2.W21.S.S30.M6.2M$3W.2W3.4W3.2W
.2W.W.W23.S3.2S25.M$.W4.W.W2.W11.W27.S.S26.3M$W6.W4.W25.2O11.2S29.M7.
2M$W2.5W2.W2.W5.W17.O9.S42.2M9.Q2.Q.Q$W.W.W2.2W2.W.W4.W.W19.O5.S.S53.
Q.Q.Q$W6.2W3.2W4.W2.W16.2O7.2S38.2M8.M5.Q$2.W2.W2.W2.3W.W3.2W66.2M8.M
8.Q$W.2W5.2W4.W78.5M5.Q$.W3.W3.W32.2pA50.4M4.2Q2.Q$42.2pA49.2M3.M2.3Q
.2Q$48.pA7.2S5.Q30.2M2.M2.2Q3.Q$11.M8.2W14.2W9.pA.pA5.S.S4.Q.Q29.2M2.
M3.2Q.2Q$10.M2.M6.2W14.W.W9.pA6.S6.2Q30.2M6.Q$7.2M.M2.M23.W.W5.pA8.2S
37.3M.2M2.3Q2.Q$8.M5.M2.M20.W5.pA.pA49.M4.2Q.Q.Q$9.5M4.M26.pA49.2M$
10.M.M.M35.3U42.3M$10.5M22.W13.3U5.2M5.2M11.M$11.M7.M15.2W22.2M5.2M9.
M.2M$12.4M20.2W38.2M.M24.M$13.M3.2M8.2W17.3U14.2M13.M25.2M$19.M7.W.W
17.3U13.2M37.M.M.M$20.M2.M4.W.W67.2M3.2M.M$21.M7.W68.M2.M.M.2M$21.M
21.2U22.2M34.M$42.U2.U21.2M17.2M7.2M5.2Q.Q$22.M.M18.U2.U39.2M7.2M4.Q.
2Q.Q$19.M.M2.M2.M16.2U59.Q$19.M3.M2.3M9.3U7.2U22.M10.2M5.2M13.Q$24.2M
.M11.3U5.U2.U19.M.M10.2M5.2M6.2M$21.M.M2.4M.M14.U2.U22.M25.2M$19.M.M.
2M.M2.M.M15.2U19.M2.M2.M18.2Q$20.5M9.3U31.M.M.2M.M17.2Q$21.2M3.4M.M3.
3U30.M3.2M.2M!
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Re: (Engineered) diehards

Post by EvinZL » July 9th, 2023, 2:49 pm

This loaf-making fuse works to delete a block pull far enough from the c/5 ship

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x = 114, y = 111, rule = B3/S23
109bo$108bo3b2o$108bob2o$107bobo$106bobo$105bobo$104bobo$103bobo$102b
obo$101bobo$100bobo$99bobo$98bobo$97bobo$96bobo$95bobo$94bobo$93bobo$
92bobo$91bobo$90bobo$89bobo$88bobo$87bobo$86bobo$85bobo$84bobo$83bobo
$82bobo$81bobo$80bobo$79bobo$78bobo$77bobo$76bobo$75bobo$74bobo$73bob
o$72bobo$71bobo$70bobo$69bobo$68bobo$67bobo$66bobo$65bobo$64bobo$63bo
bo$62bobo$61bobo$60bobo$59bobo$58bobo$57bobo$56bobo$55bobo$54bobo$53b
obo$52bobo$51bobo$50bobo$49bobo$48bobo$47bobo$46bobo$45bobo$44bobo$43b
obo$42bobo$41bobo$40bobo$39bobo$38bobo$37bobo$36bobo13b2o$35bobo14b2o
$34bobo$33bobo$32bobo$31bobo$30bobo$29bobo$28bobo$27bobo$26bobo$25bob
o$24bobo$23bobo7b2o$22bobo6b6o$21bobo6bo2b5o$20bobo7bo6b2o$19bobo9b2o
4b2o$18bobo11b3o2b2o$17bobo17b2o$3bo2bo9bobo15bo3bo$3bo11bobo16b2obo$
4bo9bobo18bobo2b2o$obo3b2obo3bobo25b2o$2o5bo2bobobo28bo$bo6b2o3bo29b2o
$44bo$10b2o$10b2o34b5o$44b2ob5o$7bobo41b2o$7b2o35b2o5b2o$8bo36b2obo2b
3o$48bo2b3o$48b2o2bo$49bo2bo$50b2o!

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x = 14, y = 14, rule = B3/S23
2bo$bobo$o2bo$b2o3$12bo$11bo$4bobo4b3o$4b2o$5bo2$5b2o$5b2o!
The block deletion produces two extra blinkers, but those get harmlessly mowed over.

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Re: (Engineered) diehards

Post by Pavgran » July 17th, 2023, 3:27 pm

toroidalet wrote:
July 9th, 2023, 1:59 pm
One more layer!

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x = 107, y = 93, rule = LifeSuper
6.2W2.W6.6Q23.8Q.Q$3.W.W.2W.W4.10Q21.2Q.Q.Q4.3Q24.2M$17.Q4.Q26.Q3.2Q
28.2M8.2Q4.3Q$5.W2.W2.W27.2M13.2Q2.Q33.Q2.Q$5.2W2.2W.W27.M12.Q39.2Q8.
2Q$6.4W2.W27.M.M11.Q.Q.Q21.2M21.Q.Q$3.W2.W.W.W30.2M5.4M28.2M22.Q$5.W.
W2.3W23.O10.4M9.2M$3.W.W2.W2.2W21.O2.O9.M2.M9.2M21.2M8.M$3.W6.2W14.2Q
6.O2.O9.4M32.2M6.3M4.2M$4.8W14.2Q7.O5.pA6.4M38.M7.2M$3.3W5.2W27.pA.pA
8.M38.2M$8.2W31.pA$19.2M17.pA5.pA50.2M7.3M$19.2M6.2O8.pA.pA3.pA.pA18.
Q30.2M6.M.M$26.O9.pA.pA5.pA3.2pA13.Q.Q19.M17.M$29.O5.pA.pA3.pA6.2pA
14.2Q19.2M11.M2.M.M.2M$20.M6.2O5.pA.pA3.pA.pA9.pA5.2Q24.M.M11.2M3.2M.
M$19.M.M11.pA.pA5.pA9.pA.pA3.Q2.Q41.M.M.M$18.M3.M9.pA.pA17.pA.pA3.2Q
44.2M$18.5M8.pA.pA19.pA.pA48.M$17.2M3.2M6.pA.pA21.pA$18.5M6.pA.pA6.2O
5.2O4.pA36.M$19.3M6.pA.pA7.2O5.O4.pA.pA3.2pA15.M12.2M.2M$20.M8.pA13.O
.O5.pA4.pA.pA13.3M11.2M.2M$43.2O12.2pA12.2M2.M11.M.3M$33.2O36.2M13.3M
$26.2pA5.2O36.2M9.2M$26.2pA23.2M20.M.M6.2M$51.M23.M$41.2M5.2M.M13.2pA
$40.M.M7.M14.pA.pA13.2S$17.2M4.2pA5.2M7.3M4.M19.2pA4.2M6.S.S$18.M4.pA
.pA4.2M6.3M4.M2.M13.pA9.2M6.2S5.2M$15.3M6.2pA13.3M4.2M13.pA.pA13.S9.
2M$15.M24.M.M19.pA6.S6.S.S23.Q.Q$2.W24.pA13.2M25.S.S4.S.S12.2M11.4Q$
2.W23.pA.pA39.S.S3.S.S13.2M9.Q.2Q$.3W18.O4.pA.pA39.S5.S6.M18.Q4.Q$.2W
18.2O5.pA.pA25.2S8.S5.S7.3M18.3Q.2Q$.2W18.2O6.pA25.S.S7.S.S3.S.S5.M7.
2M13.3Q.Q$.2W18.O32.S2.S.S6.S5.S6.2M6.2M12.Q3.2Q$.3W35.pA14.2S2.2S3.S
5.S33.Q.Q$2.W13.O16.2pA3.pA.pA10.O10.S.S3.S.S30.Q2.Q.Q$2.W13.3O14.2pA
4.pA10.O.O10.S5.S12.3Q17.Q.Q$19.O31.O8.S5.S$18.2O39.S.S3.S.S$3W23.2W
32.S5.S10.M9.3Q$26.2W29.S5.S12.3M$56.S.S3.S.S10.5M$57.S5.S10.M.M.M.M$
3.3W54.S13.2M3.2M$16.2W.2W38.S.S$2W5.2W2.W4.W3.W9.3W27.S$.W2.W2.W2.W.
2W3.3W9.W2.2W34.S8.M16.2Q$2W2.W.2W.2W7.W10.2W.W.W7.O25.3S5.M.M14.Q2.Q
$W2.W.W3.W2.2W4.W15.2W5.O.O27.S4.M17.Q.Q$W5.W2.2W.W4.3W3.2W8.2W6.2O5.
S21.2S5.M2.M6.2M6.Q$W2.W.6W2.W2.W3.W.W2.W21.S.S30.M6.2M$3W.2W3.4W3.2W
.2W.W.W23.S3.2S25.M$.W4.W.W2.W11.W27.S.S26.3M$W6.W4.W25.2O11.2S29.M7.
2M$W2.5W2.W2.W5.W17.O9.S42.2M9.Q2.Q.Q$W.W.W2.2W2.W.W4.W.W19.O5.S.S53.
Q.Q.Q$W6.2W3.2W4.W2.W16.2O7.2S38.2M8.M5.Q$2.W2.W2.W2.3W.W3.2W66.2M8.M
8.Q$W.2W5.2W4.W78.5M5.Q$.W3.W3.W32.2pA50.4M4.2Q2.Q$42.2pA49.2M3.M2.3Q
.2Q$48.pA7.2S5.Q30.2M2.M2.2Q3.Q$11.M8.2W14.2W9.pA.pA5.S.S4.Q.Q29.2M2.
M3.2Q.2Q$10.M2.M6.2W14.W.W9.pA6.S6.2Q30.2M6.Q$7.2M.M2.M23.W.W5.pA8.2S
37.3M.2M2.3Q2.Q$8.M5.M2.M20.W5.pA.pA49.M4.2Q.Q.Q$9.5M4.M26.pA49.2M$
10.M.M.M35.3U42.3M$10.5M22.W13.3U5.2M5.2M11.M$11.M7.M15.2W22.2M5.2M9.
M.2M$12.4M20.2W38.2M.M24.M$13.M3.2M8.2W17.3U14.2M13.M25.2M$19.M7.W.W
17.3U13.2M37.M.M.M$20.M2.M4.W.W67.2M3.2M.M$21.M7.W68.M2.M.M.2M$21.M
21.2U22.2M34.M$42.U2.U21.2M17.2M7.2M5.2Q.Q$22.M.M18.U2.U39.2M7.2M4.Q.
2Q.Q$19.M.M2.M2.M16.2U59.Q$19.M3.M2.3M9.3U7.2U22.M10.2M5.2M13.Q$24.2M
.M11.3U5.U2.U19.M.M10.2M5.2M6.2M$21.M.M2.4M.M14.U2.U22.M25.2M$19.M.M.
2M.M2.M.M15.2U19.M2.M2.M18.2Q$20.5M9.3U31.M.M.2M.M17.2Q$21.2M3.4M.M3.
3U30.M3.2M.2M!
Increased multiplier by delaying initial gliders even further and rewinding a bit.
EDIT: Also added one more level in the tower by fitting extra toad.

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x = 107, y = 93, rule = LifeSuper
6.2W2.W6.6Q23.8Q.Q$3.W.W.2W.W4.10Q21.2Q.Q.Q4.3Q24.2M$17.Q4.Q26.Q3.2Q
28.2M8.2Q4.3Q$5.W2.W2.W27.2M13.2Q2.Q33.Q2.Q$5.2W2.2W.W27.M12.Q39.2Q8.
2Q$6.4W2.W27.M.M6.2M3.Q.Q.Q21.2M21.Q.Q$3.W2.W.W.W30.2M6.M.M28.2M22.Q$
5.W.W2.3W23.O13.3M7.2M$3.W.W2.W2.2W21.O2.O13.3M6.2M21.2M8.M$3.W6.2W
14.2Q6.O2.O12.3M30.2M6.3M4.2M$4.8W14.2Q7.O5.pA7.M.M38.M7.2M$3.3W5.2W
27.pA.pA6.2M39.2M$8.2W31.pA$19.2M17.pA5.pA50.2M7.3M$19.2M6.2O8.pA.pA
3.pA.pA18.Q30.2M6.M.M$26.O9.pA.pA5.pA3.2pA13.Q.Q37.M$29.O5.pA.pA3.pA
6.2pA14.2Q35.M.M.2M$27.2O5.pA.pA3.pA.pA9.pA5.2Q23.M19.2M.M$33.pA.pA5.
pA9.pA.pA3.Q2.Q20.M20.M.M.M$32.pA.pA17.pA.pA3.2Q21.M11.M10.2M$31.pA.pA
19.pA.pA23.2M12.M.M8.M$30.pA.pA21.pA24.M.M11.2M5.2M$29.pA.pA6.2O5.2O
4.pA26.3M18.M.M$17.2M.M.2M4.pA.pA7.2O5.O4.pA.pA3.2pA20.M20.M$29.pA13.
O.O5.pA4.pA.pA20.2M6.M10.2M$17.M5.M19.2O12.2pA13.2M5.2M5.2M$33.2O37.
2M12.2M$18.2M.2M3.2pA5.2O25.2pA24.M14.M$20.M5.2pA23.2M7.2pA13.2M24.M$
51.M23.2M13.3M8.M$38.M10.M.M13.2pA24.3M$37.M.M9.2M14.pA.pA13.2S$17.2M
4.2pA5.2M3.2M3.M25.2pA4.2M6.S.S$18.M4.pA.pA4.2M3.2M3.M21.pA9.2M6.2S5.
2M$15.3M6.2pA9.2M3.M20.pA.pA13.S9.2M$15.M21.M.M22.pA6.S6.S.S23.Q.Q$2.
W24.pA10.M29.S.S4.S.S12.2M11.4Q$2.W23.pA.pA39.S.S3.S.S13.2M9.Q.2Q$.3W
18.O4.pA.pA39.S5.S6.M18.Q4.Q$.2W18.2O5.pA.pA25.2S8.S5.S7.3M18.3Q.2Q$.
2W18.2O6.pA25.S.S7.S.S3.S.S5.M7.2M13.3Q.Q$.2W18.O32.S2.S.S6.S5.S6.2M
6.2M12.Q3.2Q$.3W35.pA14.2S2.2S3.S5.S33.Q.Q$2.W13.O16.2pA3.pA.pA10.O
10.S.S3.S.S30.Q2.Q.Q$2.W13.3O8.2W4.2pA4.pA10.O.O10.S5.S6.3M3.3Q17.Q.Q
$19.O6.W24.O8.S5.S9.3M$18.2O9.W29.S.S3.S.S7.M3.M$3W24.2W31.S5.S7.M5.M
6.3Q$47.2S8.S5.S11.M3.M$24.2W20.S.S7.S.S3.S.S11.3M$24.2W19.S2.S.S6.S
5.S$3.3W39.2S2.2S3.S5.S$16.2W.2W32.S.S3.S.S$2W5.2W2.W4.W3.W9.3W21.S5.
S6.pA$.W2.W2.W2.W.2W3.3W9.W2.2W17.S5.S8.pA.pA25.2Q$2W2.W.2W.2W7.W10.
2W.W.W7.O7.S.S3.S.S8.pA25.Q2.Q$W2.W.W3.W2.2W4.W15.2W5.O.O7.S5.S36.Q.Q
$W5.W2.2W.W4.3W3.2W8.2W6.2O5.S5.S32.2M6.Q$W2.W.6W2.W2.W3.W.W2.W21.S.S
3.S.S23.2M6.2M$3W.2W3.4W3.2W.2W.W.W23.S5.S18.S5.M$.W4.W.W2.W11.W27.S
15.2S4.3S4.3M$W6.W4.W25.2O10.S.S14.2S7.S5.M7.2M$W2.5W2.W2.W5.W17.O9.S
3.S10.S12.2S13.2M9.Q2.Q.Q$W.W.W2.2W2.W.W4.W.W19.O5.S.S13.3S37.Q.Q.Q$W
6.2W3.2W4.W2.W16.2O7.2S16.S21.2M14.Q$2.W2.W2.W2.3W.W3.2W43.2S21.2M17.
Q$W.2W5.2W4.W88.Q$.W3.W3.W32.2pA58.2Q2.Q$42.2pA57.3Q.2Q$48.pA7.2S5.Q
37.2Q3.Q$11.M8.2W14.2W9.pA.pA5.S.S4.Q.Q37.2Q.2Q$10.M2.M6.2W14.W.W9.pA
6.S6.2Q38.Q$7.2M.M2.M23.W.W5.pA8.2S45.3Q2.Q$8.M5.M2.M20.W5.pA.pA54.2Q
.Q.Q$9.5M4.M26.pA$10.M.M.M35.3U16.2M$10.5M22.W13.3U5.2M8.M.M$11.M7.M
15.2W22.2M10.M26.M$12.4M20.2W4.pA26.3M25.3M4.M$13.M3.2M8.2W12.pA.pA2.
3U14.2M31.M2.2M3.2M$19.M7.W.W12.pA4.3U13.2M37.M.M.M$20.M2.M4.W.W72.2M
.M$21.M7.W8.pA62.M.M.2M$21.M15.pA.pA3.2U22.2M34.M$38.pA3.U2.U21.2M17.
2M7.2M5.2Q.Q$22.M.M18.U2.U39.2M7.2M4.Q.2Q.Q$19.M.M2.M2.M6.pA9.2U59.Q$
19.M3.M2.3M4.pA.pA2.3U7.2U22.M10.2M5.2M13.Q$24.2M.M6.pA4.3U5.U2.U19.M
.M10.2M5.2M6.2M$21.M.M2.4M.M14.U2.U22.M25.2M$19.M.M.2M.M2.M.M15.2U19.
M2.M2.M18.2Q$20.5M9.3U31.M.M.2M.M17.2Q$21.2M3.4M.M3.3U30.M3.2M.2M!

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Re: (Engineered) diehards

Post by toroidalet » July 18th, 2023, 1:17 am

3 more layers thanks to EvinZL's idea:

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x = 110, y = 90, rule = LifeSuper
6.2W.2W.W.W5.6Q23.8Q.Q$10.2W2.W3.10Q21.2Q.Q.Q4.3Q24.2M$6.W.W11.Q4.Q
26.Q3.2Q28.2M8.2Q4.3Q$9.3W30.2M13.2Q2.Q33.Q2.Q$9.2W2.3W27.M12.Q39.2Q
8.2Q$6.2W4.W.2W27.M.M6.M4.Q.Q.Q21.2M21.Q.Q$10.W2.W30.2M6.2M29.2M22.Q$
6.W.W.W3.2W23.O7.2M4.2M8.2M$7.2W.W.W2.W21.O2.O6.2M4.3M7.2M21.2M8.M$6.
W.W20.2Q6.O2.O6.2M4.2M31.2M6.3M4.2M$7.W.5W.W13.2Q7.O5.pA7.2M39.M7.2M$
12.W.W28.pA.pA6.M40.2M$6.2W3.2W.W29.pA$22.2M17.pA5.pA50.2M7.3M$22.2M
6.2O8.pA.pA3.pA.pA18.Q30.2M6.M.M$29.O9.pA.pA5.pA3.2pA13.Q.Q37.M$32.O
5.pA.pA3.pA6.2pA14.2Q35.M.M.2M$25.M4.2O5.pA.pA3.pA.pA9.pA5.2Q22.2M19.
2M.M$24.M11.pA.pA5.pA9.pA.pA3.Q2.Q21.3M9.M7.M.M.M$24.M10.pA.pA17.pA.pA
3.2Q20.3M10.M10.2M$34.pA.pA19.pA.pA24.M12.3M8.M$33.pA.pA21.pA45.2M$
20.2M3.2M5.pA.pA6.2O5.2O4.pA27.3M17.M.M$23.M7.pA.pA7.2O5.O4.pA.pA3.2pA
21.M19.M$20.M5.M5.pA13.O.O5.pA4.pA.pA20.3M5.M10.2M$21.2M.2M20.2O12.2pA
13.2M12.2M$22.M.M11.2O37.2M12.2M$23.M5.2pA5.2O51.M14.M$23.M5.2pA23.2M
22.2M24.M$54.M23.2M13.3M8.M$42.M9.M.M13.2pA24.3M$40.M.M9.2M14.pA.pA
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2M6.2S5.2M$18.3M6.2pA10.M.M22.pA.pA13.S9.2M$18.M21.M.M22.pA6.S6.S.S
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3.W21.O4.pA.pA39.S5.S6.M18.Q4.Q$3.W20.2O5.pA.pA25.2S8.S5.S7.3M18.3Q.
2Q$3.W20.2O6.pA25.S.S7.S.S3.S.S5.M7.2M13.3Q.Q$24.O32.S2.S.S6.S5.S6.2M
6.2M12.Q3.2Q$42.pA5.2pA7.2S2.2S3.S5.S33.Q.Q$19.O16.2pA3.pA.pA3.pA.pA
4.O10.S.S3.S.S30.Q2.Q.Q$19.3O8.2W4.2pA4.pA4.pA5.O.O10.S5.S7.M4.3Q17.Q
.Q$4.W17.O6.W16.2pA6.O8.S5.S9.M.M$4.W16.2O9.W29.S.S3.S.S7.M3.M$4.W25.
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7.W20.W19.S2.S.S6.S5.S$7.W11.2W.2W2.2W12.2U6.2S2.2S3.S5.S$19.W3.W16.
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4.W10.2W19.U.U6.O7.S.S3.S.S8.pA25.Q2.Q$20.3W14.U6.O.O7.S5.S36.Q.Q$19.
W3.W.2W7.U9.2O5.S5.S32.2M6.Q$3.2W14.2W.2W.2W6.U.U14.S.S3.S.S23.2M6.2M
$3.W10.2W18.U16.S5.S18.S5.M$W5.3W4.W.W38.S15.2S4.3S4.3M$W.W3.2W2.W.W.
W26.2O10.S.S14.2S7.S5.M7.2M$2W6.2W3.W20.U5.O9.S3.S10.S12.2S13.2M9.Q2.
Q.Q$9.2W22.U.U7.O5.S.S13.3S37.Q.Q.Q$3.W6.2W22.U6.2O7.2S16.S21.2M14.Q$
3.W.W4.2W19.U35.2S21.2M17.Q$3.2W5.W15.U3.U.U74.Q$7.W9.M6.U2.U3.U3.2U
8.2pA58.2Q2.Q$7.W.W6.M2.M4.U2.U7.U9.2pA57.3Q.2Q$7.2W4.2M.M2.M5.U10.3U
12.pA7.2S5.Q37.2Q3.Q$14.M5.M17.U11.pA.pA5.S.S4.Q.Q37.2Q.2Q$15.5M15.U.
U13.pA6.S6.2Q38.Q$16.M.M.M14.2U11.pA8.2S45.3Q2.Q$16.5M26.pA.pA54.2Q.Q
.Q$17.M7.M22.pA$18.4M31.3U$19.M3.2M29.3U5.2M7.3M$25.M36.2M9.M$26.M2.M
15.pA27.M27.M5.M$27.M16.pA.pA2.3U14.2M4.M27.3M4.2M$27.M17.pA4.3U13.2M
31.2M.M2.M.M.M$99.2M5.2M.M$28.M.M70.M2.M.M.2M$25.M.M2.M2.M11.3U16.M2.
2M23.M8.4M.M$25.M3.M2.3M11.3U13.3M2.2M2.M16.M.5M3.2M.2M2.2Q.Q$30.2M.M
31.2M2.3M18.2M.2M4.M.2M.Q.2Q.Q$27.M.M2.4M.M27.2M2.3M19.2M2.2M5.M5.Q$
25.M.M.2M.M2.M.M3.3U21.2M6.M2.M9.2M2.2M.M8.2M4.Q$26.5M11.3U21.M6.3M
10.M3.2M.6M2.2M$27.2M3.4M.M49.M2.M3.5Q3.M!
It's a bit funny how the records seem to go back and forth. First the ship gets pulled really far in, then we bring it out, then it goes back in... (the guns have been delayed just over a full cycle as well)

I'm also a little surprised by how much low-hanging fruit there still is, such as backing up the guns more and the pink eater.
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Re: (Engineered) diehards

Post by calcyman » July 18th, 2023, 6:41 am

toroidalet wrote:
July 18th, 2023, 1:17 am
3 more layers thanks to EvinZL's idea:
10 more loaves (I don't know how that translates into layers):

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x = 110, y = 90, rule = LifeSuper
6.W7.4Q2.6Q23.8Q.Q$3.W.3W8.12Q21.2Q.Q.Q4.3Q24.2M$2.6W9.2Q5.2Q26.Q3.2Q
28.2M8.2Q4.3Q$2.3W.W14.Q20.2M13.2Q2.Q33.Q2.Q$3.W16.2Q21.M12.Q39.2Q8.
2Q$43.M.M6.M4.Q.Q.Q21.2M21.Q.Q$23.W20.2M6.2M29.2M22.Q$23.2W14.O7.2M4.
2M8.2M$23.2W12.O2.O6.2M4.3M7.2M21.2M8.M$24.W4.2Q6.O2.O6.2M4.2M31.2M6.
3M4.2M$2.W26.2Q7.O5.pA7.2M39.M7.2M$2.W40.pA.pA6.M40.2M$2.W41.pA$22.2M
17.pA5.pA50.2M7.3M$22.2M6.2O8.pA.pA3.pA.pA18.Q30.2M6.M.M$29.O9.pA.pA
5.pA3.2pA13.Q.Q37.M$32.O5.pA.pA3.pA6.2pA14.2Q35.M.M.2M$25.M4.2O5.pA.pA
3.pA.pA9.pA5.2Q22.2M19.2M.M$24.M11.pA.pA5.pA9.pA.pA3.Q2.Q21.3M9.M7.M.
M.M$24.M10.pA.pA17.pA.pA3.2Q20.3M10.M10.2M$34.pA.pA19.pA.pA24.M12.3M
8.M$33.pA.pA21.pA45.2M$20.2M3.2M5.pA.pA6.2O5.2O4.pA27.3M17.M.M$3.W19.
M7.pA.pA7.2O5.O4.pA.pA3.2pA21.M19.M$3.W.W14.M5.M5.pA13.O.O5.pA4.pA.pA
20.3M5.M10.2M$3.2W16.2M.2M20.2O12.2pA13.2M12.2M$22.M.M11.2O37.2M12.2M
$23.M5.2pA5.2O51.M14.M$7.W15.M5.2pA23.2M22.2M24.M$6.W47.M23.2M13.3M8.
M$6.3W33.M9.M.M13.2pA24.3M$40.M.M9.2M14.pA.pA13.2S$2W18.2M4.2pA5.2M4.
M.M27.2pA4.2M6.S.S$W.W18.M4.pA.pA4.2M3.M2.M23.pA9.2M6.2S5.2M$W17.3M6.
2pA10.M.M22.pA.pA13.S9.2M$18.M21.M.M22.pA6.S6.S.S23.Q.Q$30.pA11.M28.S
.S4.S.S12.2M11.4Q$3.3W23.pA.pA39.S.S3.S.S13.2M9.Q.2Q$3.W21.O4.pA.pA
39.S5.S6.M18.Q4.Q$4.W19.2O5.pA.pA25.2S8.S5.S7.3M18.3Q.2Q$24.2O6.pA25.
S.S7.S.S3.S.S5.M7.2M13.3Q.Q$24.O32.S2.S.S6.S5.S6.2M6.2M12.Q3.2Q$9.2W
31.pA5.2pA7.2S2.2S3.S5.S33.Q.Q$7.2W2.2W6.O16.2pA3.pA.pA3.pA.pA4.O10.S
.S3.S.S30.Q2.Q.Q$9.2W8.3O8.2W4.2pA4.pA4.pA5.O.O10.S5.S7.M4.3Q17.Q.Q$
6.W6.W8.O6.W16.2pA6.O8.S5.S9.M.M$7.W4.W8.2O9.W29.S.S3.S.S7.M3.M$9.2W
19.2W31.S5.S9.3M8.3Q$6.3W2.3W12.2W22.2S8.S5.S10.2M3.2M$6.2W4.2W11.W
23.S.S7.S.S3.S.S$28.W19.S2.S.S6.S5.S$19.2W.2W2.2W12.2U6.2S2.2S3.S5.S$
9.2W8.W3.W16.2U14.S.S3.S.S$3.W.W2.W2.W8.3W34.S5.S6.pA$3.2W10.2W20.U
16.S5.S8.pA.pA25.2Q$4.W10.2W19.U.U6.O7.S.S3.S.S8.pA25.Q2.Q$20.3W14.U
6.O.O7.S5.S36.Q.Q$19.W3.W.2W7.U9.2O5.S5.S32.2M6.Q$3.2W14.2W.2W.2W6.U.
U14.S.S3.S.S23.2M6.2M$3.W10.2W18.U16.S5.S18.S5.M$W5.3W4.W.W38.S15.2S
4.3S4.3M$W.W3.2W2.W.W.W26.2O10.S.S14.2S7.S5.M7.2M$2W6.2W3.W20.U5.O9.S
3.S10.S12.2S13.2M9.Q2.Q.Q$9.2W22.U.U7.O5.S.S13.3S37.Q.Q.Q$3.W6.2W22.U
6.2O7.2S16.S21.2M14.Q$3.W.W4.2W19.U35.2S21.2M17.Q$3.2W5.W15.U3.U.U74.
Q$7.W9.M6.U2.U3.U3.2U8.2pA58.2Q2.Q$7.W.W6.M2.M4.U2.U7.U9.2pA57.3Q.2Q$
7.2W4.2M.M2.M5.U10.3U12.pA7.2S5.Q37.2Q3.Q$14.M5.M17.U11.pA.pA5.S.S4.Q
.Q37.2Q.2Q$15.5M15.U.U13.pA6.S6.2Q38.Q$16.M.M.M14.2U11.pA8.2S45.3Q2.Q
$16.5M26.pA.pA54.2Q.Q.Q$17.M7.M22.pA$18.4M31.3U$19.M3.2M29.3U5.2M7.3M
$25.M36.2M9.M$26.M2.M15.pA27.M27.M5.M$27.M16.pA.pA2.3U14.2M4.M27.3M4.
2M$27.M17.pA4.3U13.2M31.2M.M2.M.M.M$99.2M5.2M.M$28.M.M70.M2.M.M.2M$
25.M.M2.M2.M11.3U16.M2.2M23.M8.4M.M$25.M3.M2.3M11.3U13.3M2.2M2.M16.M.
5M3.2M.2M2.2Q.Q$30.2M.M31.2M2.3M18.2M.2M4.M.2M.Q.2Q.Q$27.M.M2.4M.M27.
2M2.3M19.2M2.2M5.M5.Q$25.M.M.2M.M2.M.M3.3U21.2M6.M2.M9.2M2.2M.M8.2M4.
Q$26.5M11.3U21.M6.3M10.M3.2M.6M2.2M$27.2M3.4M.M49.M2.M3.5Q3.M!
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Re: (Engineered) diehards

Post by Pavgran » July 18th, 2023, 6:43 am

calcyman wrote:
July 18th, 2023, 5:59 am

What does the salmon eater to the north of the spark coil accomplish, exactly, and can it be moved at all? The reason I ask is because I'm trying to lengthen the Copperhead sequence; I've managed to make some progress but I'm stuck at the salmon eater:
It directs gliders during self-destruction. You can see it working in the destruction demonstration pattern I posted earlier:

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x = 94, y = 101, rule = LifeSuper
34.2Q$34.Q.Q$4.2Q29.Q$3.Q2.Q33.Q$4.2Q33.Q.Q$39.Q2.Q25.2M15.Q$40.2Q26.
2M8.2Q5.Q$24.2M51.Q2.Q4.Q$25.M52.2Q8.2Q$25.M.M6.2M29.2M21.Q.Q$26.3M5.
M.M28.2M22.Q$28.3M6.M7.2M$20.3O5.M2.M2.M2.M7.2M21.2M8.M$11.2Q6.3O7.2M
6.M30.2M6.3M4.2M$11.2Q21.M.M38.M7.2M$34.2M39.2M2$4.2M74.2M$4.2M6.O36.
Q30.2M$12.2O20.M13.Q.Q$12.2O21.2M12.2Q32.2M$13.O20.2M7.2Q22.M.M13.2M
7.M$6.2M34.Q2.Q23.M20.3M$43.2Q20.M.M21.M$65.M23.2M$64.M.M$23.2O5.2O
32.2M$2.2M3.2M14.2O5.O32.M$3.5M20.O.O33.2M18.2M$3.2M.2M20.2O27.2M6.M
19.2M$3.2M.2M10.2O26.M10.2M25.M$4.3M11.2O25.M$36.2M7.3M12.2M$36.M23.
2M$23.M10.M.M$22.M.M9.2M$2.2M11.2M4.M.2M32.2M13.3M$3.M11.2M3.2M.2M32.
2M13.3M4.2M$3M8.M9.M.2M46.M3.M4.M$M9.2M10.M.M47.5M2.M.M$10.M.M10.M49.
4M$91.Q$67.M22.Q.Q$5.2O50.M7.3M22.Q2.Q$7.O47.2M7.M7.2M17.2Q$4.O34.3M
14.2M6.2M6.2M$5.2O32.M48.Q$36.O3.M27.Q18.Q.Q$O34.O.O24.M5.Q19.2Q$3O
33.O24.3M4.Q$3.O51.M4.M3.M8.Q$2.2O50.M4.M.3M.M7.Q$54.3M3.5M8.Q3$20.2pA
$20.2pA2$79.2Q$78.Q2.Q$26.O52.Q.Q$25.O.O44.2M6.Q$25.2O16.2M19.2M6.2M$
5.M.3M32.2M20.M$5.M.4M33.M20.3M$5.M5.M24.2pA29.M7.2M$6.M.M.M2.3M6.O
13.2pA37.2M11.Q$7.M.M.4M7.2O63.Q.Q$8.M2.M.2M7.2O48.2M14.2Q$8.M3.3M.M
6.O48.2M$9.3M2.2M.M$15.M76.Q$16.M2.M71.Q.Q$17.M2.M27.Q43.2Q$18.2M3.M
23.Q.Q$19.5M23.2Q20.3M$20.4M45.M$20.M.M47.M$19.M.2M.M$19.M3.M.M28.M$
19.M2.M2.2M17.2M3.M4.2M$20.2M.M.2M17.2M2.2M5.2M$22.M2.2M22.2M4.M26.3M
4.2M$23.M26.M3.M26.M2.M4.M$24.3M54.M2.M5.3M$92.M$81.M$81.M3.M$71.2M9.
M.M5.Q$71.2M10.M5.Q.Q$90.2Q$68.2M5.2M$68.2M5.2M6.2M$61.M21.2M$62.2M
14.2Q$61.2M15.2Q2$65.2M$65.M.M$67.M$67.2M!
It can be moved together with other OTTs, but there's little wiggle space there. I think by sacrificing other delay circuitry, we can get more room.

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Re: (Engineered) diehards

Post by Pavgran » July 18th, 2023, 6:59 am

After reaching 110x90, we can expand one border 'for free', to 111x90, while still staying under 10000 limit. That allows for one more layer.

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x = 111, y = 90, rule = LifeSuper
7.W7.4Q2.6Q23.8Q.Q$4.W.3W8.12Q21.2Q.Q.Q4.3Q24.2M$3.6W9.2Q5.2Q26.Q3.2Q
28.2M8.2Q4.3Q$3.3W.W14.Q20.2M13.2Q2.Q33.Q2.Q$4.W16.2Q21.M12.Q39.2Q8.
2Q$44.M.M6.M4.Q.Q.Q21.2M21.Q.Q$24.W20.2M6.2M29.2M22.Q$24.2W14.O7.2M4.
2M8.2M$24.2W12.O2.O6.2M4.3M7.2M21.2M8.M$25.W4.2Q6.O2.O6.2M4.2M31.2M6.
3M4.2M$3.W26.2Q7.O5.pA7.2M39.M7.2M$3.W40.pA.pA6.M40.2M$3.W41.pA$23.2M
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3.M!
calcyman wrote:
July 18th, 2023, 6:41 am
10 more loaves (I don't know how that translates into layers):
They translate directly. Each loaf adds one level.
Last edited by Pavgran on July 18th, 2023, 7:21 am, edited 1 time in total.

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Re: (Engineered) diehards

Post by calcyman » July 18th, 2023, 7:15 am

Pavgran wrote:
July 18th, 2023, 6:59 am
After reaching 110x90, we can expand one border 'for free', to 111x90, while still staying under 10000 limit. That allows for one more layer.

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x = 110, y = 90, rule = LifeSuper
That's still 110x90. Did you mean to post this instead (with the crab moved SW by 1fd, and the copperhead moved south by 2 cells)?

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x = 111, y = 90, rule = LifeSuper
7.W7.4Q2.6Q23.8Q.Q$4.W.3W8.12Q21.2Q.Q.Q4.3Q24.2M$3.6W9.2Q5.2Q26.Q3.2Q
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2M.M8.2M4.Q$27.5M11.3U21.M6.3M10.M3.2M.6M2.2M$28.2M3.4M.M49.M2.M3.5Q
3.M!
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Re: (Engineered) diehards

Post by Pavgran » July 18th, 2023, 7:21 am

calcyman wrote:
July 18th, 2023, 7:15 am
That's still 110x90. Did you mean to post this instead (with the crab moved SW by 1fd, and the copperhead moved south by 2 cells)?
Yep. I guess I copied the wrong pattern. Fixed, thanks.

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Re: (Engineered) diehards

Post by calcyman » July 18th, 2023, 8:16 am

Pavgran wrote:
July 18th, 2023, 7:21 am
calcyman wrote:
July 18th, 2023, 7:15 am
That's still 110x90. Did you mean to post this instead (with the crab moved SW by 1fd, and the copperhead moved south by 2 cells)?
Yep. I guess I copied the wrong pattern. Fixed, thanks.
Another 9 levels:

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x = 111, y = 90, rule = LifeSuper
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3M4.2M$28.M17.pA4.3U13.2M31.2M.M2.M.M.M$100.2M5.2M.M$29.M.M70.M2.M.M.
2M$26.M.M2.M2.M11.3U16.M2.2M23.M8.4M.M$26.M3.M2.3M11.3U13.3M2.2M2.M
16.M.5M3.2M.2M2.2Q.Q$31.2M.M31.2M2.3M18.2M.2M4.M.2M.Q.2Q.Q$28.M.M2.4M
.M27.2M2.3M19.2M2.2M5.M5.Q$26.M.M.2M.M2.M.M3.3U21.2M6.M2.M9.2M2.2M.M
8.2M4.Q$27.5M11.3U21.M6.3M10.M3.2M.6M2.2M$28.2M3.4M.M49.M2.M3.5Q3.M!
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Re: (Engineered) diehards

Post by calcyman » July 18th, 2023, 9:10 am

calcyman wrote:
July 18th, 2023, 8:16 am
Another 9 levels:
Now 310 loaves:

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x = 111, y = 90, rule = LifeSuper
21.6Q23.8Q.Q$19.10Q21.2Q.Q.Q4.3Q24.2M$21.2Q2.2Q26.Q3.2Q28.2M8.2Q4.3Q$
43.2M13.2Q2.Q33.Q2.Q$44.M12.Q39.2Q8.2Q$44.M.M6.M4.Q.Q.Q21.2M21.Q.Q$
45.2M6.2M29.2M22.Q$40.O7.2M4.2M8.2M$38.O2.O6.2M4.3M7.2M21.2M8.M$30.2Q
6.O2.O6.2M4.2M31.2M6.3M4.2M$30.2Q7.O5.pA7.2M39.M7.2M$44.pA.pA6.M40.2M
$45.pA$23.2M17.pA5.pA50.2M7.3M$23.2M6.2O8.pA.pA3.pA.pA18.Q30.2M6.M.M$
30.O9.pA.pA5.pA3.2pA13.Q.Q37.M$33.O5.pA.pA3.pA6.2pA14.2Q35.M.M.2M$26.
M4.2O5.pA.pA3.pA.pA9.pA5.2Q22.2M19.2M.M$25.M11.pA.pA5.pA9.pA.pA3.Q2.Q
21.3M9.M7.M.M.M$25.M10.pA.pA17.pA.pA3.2Q20.3M10.M10.2M$35.pA.pA19.pA.
pA24.M12.3M8.M$34.pA.pA21.pA45.2M$21.2M3.2M5.pA.pA6.2O5.2O4.pA27.3M
17.M.M$24.M7.pA.pA7.2O5.O4.pA.pA3.2pA21.M19.M$21.M5.M5.pA13.O.O5.pA4.
pA.pA20.3M5.M10.2M$22.2M.2M20.2O12.2pA13.2M12.2M$23.M.M11.2O37.2M12.
2M$24.M12.2O51.M14.M$24.M30.2M22.2M24.M$55.M23.2M13.3M8.M$29.2A12.M9.
M.M13.2pA24.3M$28.A.A10.M.M9.2M14.pA.pA13.2S$21.2M4.A6.2M4.M.M27.2pA
4.2M6.S.S$22.M3.A7.2M3.M2.M23.pA9.2M6.2S5.2M$5.2A12.3M3.A14.M.M22.pA.
pA13.S9.2M$6.A12.M4.A16.M.M22.pA6.S6.S.S23.Q.Q$6.A.A14.A7.pA11.M28.S.
S4.S.S12.2M11.4Q$7.2A13.A7.pA.pA39.S.S3.S.S13.2M9.Q.2Q$21.A4.O4.pA.pA
39.S5.S6.M18.Q4.Q$.2A17.A4.2O5.pA.pA25.2S8.S5.S7.3M18.3Q.2Q$A.A16.A5.
2O6.pA25.S.S7.S.S3.S.S5.M7.2M13.3Q.Q$.A13.2A.A6.O32.S2.S.S6.S5.S6.2M
6.2M12.Q3.2Q$14.A.2A25.pA5.2pA7.2S2.2S3.S5.S33.Q.Q$14.A5.O16.2pA3.pA.
pA3.pA.pA4.O10.S.S3.S.S30.Q2.Q.Q$13.2A5.3O8.2W4.2pA4.pA4.pA5.O.O10.S
5.S7.M4.3Q17.Q.Q$23.O6.W16.2pA6.O8.S5.S9.M.M$22.2O9.W29.S.S3.S.S7.M3.
M$15.2A14.2W31.S5.S9.3M8.3Q$15.2A10.2W22.2S8.S5.S10.2M3.2M$26.W23.S.S
7.S.S3.S.S$12.A16.W19.S2.S.S6.S5.S$10.A2.A6.2W.2W2.2W12.2U6.2S2.2S3.S
5.S$10.A2.A6.W3.W16.2U14.S.S3.S.S$4.W.W4.A9.3W34.S5.S6.pA$4.2W10.2W
20.U16.S5.S8.pA.pA25.2Q$5.W10.2W19.U.U6.O7.S.S3.S.S8.pA25.Q2.Q$21.3W
14.U6.O.O7.S5.S36.Q.Q$20.W3.W.2W7.U9.2O5.S5.S32.2M6.Q$4.2W14.2W.2W.2W
6.U.U14.S.S3.S.S23.2M6.2M$4.W10.2W18.U16.S5.S18.S5.M$.W5.3W4.W.W38.S
15.2S4.3S4.3M$.W.W3.2W2.W.W.W26.2O10.S.S14.2S7.S5.M7.2M$.2W6.2W3.W20.
U5.O9.S3.S10.S12.2S13.2M9.Q2.Q.Q$10.2W22.U.U7.O5.S.S13.3S37.Q.Q.Q$4.W
6.2W22.U6.2O7.2S16.S21.2M14.Q$4.W.W4.2W19.U35.2S21.2M17.Q$4.2W5.W15.U
3.U.U74.Q$8.W9.M6.U2.U3.U3.2U8.2pA58.2Q2.Q$8.W.W6.M2.M4.U2.U7.U9.2pA
57.3Q.2Q$8.2W4.2M.M2.M5.U10.3U12.pA7.2S5.Q37.2Q3.Q$15.M5.M17.U11.pA.pA
5.S.S4.Q.Q37.2Q.2Q$16.5M15.U.U13.pA6.S6.2Q38.Q$17.M.M.M14.2U11.pA8.2S
45.3Q2.Q$17.5M26.pA.pA54.2Q.Q.Q$18.M7.M22.pA$19.4M31.3U$20.M3.2M29.3U
5.2M7.3M$26.M36.2M9.M$27.M2.M15.pA27.M27.M5.M$28.M16.pA.pA2.3U14.2M4.
M27.3M4.2M$28.M17.pA4.3U13.2M31.2M.M2.M.M.M$100.2M5.2M.M$29.M.M70.M2.
M.M.2M$26.M.M2.M2.M11.3U16.M2.2M23.M8.4M.M$26.M3.M2.3M11.3U13.3M2.2M
2.M16.M.5M3.2M.2M2.2Q.Q$31.2M.M31.2M2.3M18.2M.2M4.M.2M.Q.2Q.Q$28.M.M
2.4M.M27.2M2.3M19.2M2.2M5.M5.Q$26.M.M.2M.M2.M.M3.3U21.2M6.M2.M9.2M2.
2M.M8.2M4.Q$27.5M11.3U21.M6.3M10.M3.2M.6M2.2M$28.2M3.4M.M49.M2.M3.5Q
3.M!
EDIT: make that 320 loaves by simply extending an 8-cell barge into a 12-cell barge:

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x = 111, y = 90, rule = LifeSuper
21.6Q23.8Q.Q$19.10Q21.2Q.Q.Q4.3Q24.2M$21.2Q2.2Q26.Q3.2Q28.2M8.2Q4.3Q$
43.2M13.2Q2.Q33.Q2.Q$44.M12.Q39.2Q8.2Q$44.M.M6.M4.Q.Q.Q21.2M21.Q.Q$
45.2M6.2M29.2M22.Q$40.O7.2M4.2M8.2M$38.O2.O6.2M4.3M7.2M21.2M8.M$30.2Q
6.O2.O6.2M4.2M31.2M6.3M4.2M$30.2Q7.O5.pA7.2M39.M7.2M$44.pA.pA6.M40.2M
$45.pA$23.2M17.pA5.pA50.2M7.3M$23.2M6.2O8.pA.pA3.pA.pA18.Q30.2M6.M.M$
30.O9.pA.pA5.pA3.2pA13.Q.Q37.M$33.O5.pA.pA3.pA6.2pA14.2Q35.M.M.2M$26.
M4.2O5.pA.pA3.pA.pA9.pA5.2Q22.2M19.2M.M$25.M11.pA.pA5.pA9.pA.pA3.Q2.Q
21.3M9.M7.M.M.M$25.M10.pA.pA17.pA.pA3.2Q20.3M10.M10.2M$35.pA.pA19.pA.
pA24.M12.3M8.M$34.pA.pA21.pA45.2M$21.2M3.2M5.pA.pA6.2O5.2O4.pA27.3M
17.M.M$24.M7.pA.pA7.2O5.O4.pA.pA3.2pA21.M19.M$21.M5.M5.pA13.O.O5.pA4.
pA.pA20.3M5.M10.2M$22.2M.2M20.2O12.2pA13.2M12.2M$23.M.M11.2O37.2M12.
2M$24.M12.2O51.M14.M$24.M30.2M22.2M24.M$55.M23.2M13.3M8.M$29.2A12.M9.
M.M13.2pA24.3M$28.A.A10.M.M9.2M14.pA.pA13.2S$21.2M4.A6.2M4.M.M27.2pA
4.2M6.S.S$22.M3.A7.2M3.M2.M23.pA9.2M6.2S5.2M$5.2A12.3M3.A3.pA10.M.M
22.pA.pA13.S9.2M$6.A12.M4.A3.pA.pA10.M.M22.pA6.S6.S.S23.Q.Q$6.A.A14.A
5.pA.pA11.M28.S.S4.S.S12.2M11.4Q$7.2A13.A7.pA.pA39.S.S3.S.S13.2M9.Q.
2Q$21.A4.O4.pA.pA39.S5.S6.M18.Q4.Q$.2A17.A4.2O5.pA.pA25.2S8.S5.S7.3M
18.3Q.2Q$A.A16.A5.2O6.pA25.S.S7.S.S3.S.S5.M7.2M13.3Q.Q$.A13.2A.A6.O
32.S2.S.S6.S5.S6.2M6.2M12.Q3.2Q$14.A.2A25.pA5.2pA7.2S2.2S3.S5.S33.Q.Q
$14.A5.O16.2pA3.pA.pA3.pA.pA4.O10.S.S3.S.S30.Q2.Q.Q$13.2A5.3O8.2W4.2pA
4.pA4.pA5.O.O10.S5.S7.M4.3Q17.Q.Q$23.O6.W16.2pA6.O8.S5.S9.M.M$22.2O9.
W29.S.S3.S.S7.M3.M$15.2A14.2W31.S5.S9.3M8.3Q$15.2A10.2W22.2S8.S5.S10.
2M3.2M$26.W23.S.S7.S.S3.S.S$12.A16.W19.S2.S.S6.S5.S$10.A2.A6.2W.2W2.
2W12.2U6.2S2.2S3.S5.S$10.A2.A6.W3.W16.2U14.S.S3.S.S$4.W.W4.A9.3W34.S
5.S6.pA$4.2W10.2W20.U16.S5.S8.pA.pA25.2Q$5.W10.2W19.U.U6.O7.S.S3.S.S
8.pA25.Q2.Q$21.3W14.U6.O.O7.S5.S36.Q.Q$20.W3.W.2W7.U9.2O5.S5.S32.2M6.
Q$4.2W14.2W.2W.2W6.U.U14.S.S3.S.S23.2M6.2M$4.W10.2W18.U16.S5.S18.S5.M
$.W5.3W4.W.W38.S15.2S4.3S4.3M$.W.W3.2W2.W.W.W26.2O10.S.S14.2S7.S5.M7.
2M$.2W6.2W3.W20.U5.O9.S3.S10.S12.2S13.2M9.Q2.Q.Q$10.2W22.U.U7.O5.S.S
13.3S37.Q.Q.Q$4.W6.2W22.U6.2O7.2S16.S21.2M14.Q$4.W.W4.2W19.U35.2S21.
2M17.Q$4.2W5.W15.U3.U.U74.Q$8.W9.M6.U2.U3.U3.2U8.2pA58.2Q2.Q$8.W.W6.M
2.M4.U2.U7.U9.2pA57.3Q.2Q$8.2W4.2M.M2.M5.U10.3U12.pA7.2S5.Q37.2Q3.Q$
15.M5.M17.U11.pA.pA5.S.S4.Q.Q37.2Q.2Q$16.5M15.U.U13.pA6.S6.2Q38.Q$17.
M.M.M14.2U11.pA8.2S45.3Q2.Q$17.5M26.pA.pA54.2Q.Q.Q$18.M7.M22.pA$19.4M
31.3U$20.M3.2M29.3U5.2M7.3M$26.M36.2M9.M$27.M2.M15.pA27.M27.M5.M$28.M
16.pA.pA2.3U14.2M4.M27.3M4.2M$28.M17.pA4.3U13.2M31.2M.M2.M.M.M$100.2M
5.2M.M$29.M.M70.M2.M.M.2M$26.M.M2.M2.M11.3U16.M2.2M23.M8.4M.M$26.M3.M
2.3M11.3U13.3M2.2M2.M16.M.5M3.2M.2M2.2Q.Q$31.2M.M31.2M2.3M18.2M.2M4.M
.2M.Q.2Q.Q$28.M.M2.4M.M27.2M2.3M19.2M2.2M5.M5.Q$26.M.M.2M.M2.M.M3.3U
21.2M6.M2.M9.2M2.2M.M8.2M4.Q$27.5M11.3U21.M6.3M10.M3.2M.6M2.2M$28.2M
3.4M.M49.M2.M3.5Q3.M!
There hasn't really been any effort in the left hand side, other than placing the reflectors to get the correct mod-24 timing, so we can probably get even more loaves.
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Re: (Engineered) diehards

Post by Pavgran » July 18th, 2023, 10:00 am

363 loaves, if I'm counting correctly:

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x = 110, y = 90, rule = LifeSuper
6.W13.6Q23.8Q.Q$5.W.W10.10Q21.2Q.Q.Q4.3Q24.2M$6.2W12.2Q2.2Q26.Q3.2Q
28.2M8.2Q4.3Q$2.2W38.2M13.2Q2.Q33.Q2.Q$2.W40.M12.Q39.2Q8.2Q$W.W40.M.M
6.M4.Q.Q.Q21.2M21.Q.Q$2W42.2M6.2M29.2M22.Q$39.O7.2M4.2M8.2M$37.O2.O6.
2M4.3M7.2M21.2M8.M$11.W17.2Q6.O2.O6.2M4.2M31.2M6.3M4.2M$2W8.W.W16.2Q
7.O5.pA7.2M39.M7.2M$W.W8.W.W29.pA.pA6.M40.2M$W11.2W30.pA$22.2M17.pA5.
pA50.2M7.3M$.W20.2M6.2O8.pA.pA3.pA.pA18.Q30.2M6.M.M$W.W26.O9.pA.pA5.pA
3.2pA13.Q.Q37.M$.2W29.O5.pA.pA3.pA6.2pA14.2Q35.M.M.2M$25.M4.2O5.pA.pA
3.pA.pA9.pA5.2Q22.2M19.2M.M$15.W8.M11.pA.pA5.pA9.pA.pA3.Q2.Q21.3M9.M
7.M.M.M$15.2W7.M10.pA.pA17.pA.pA3.2Q20.3M10.M10.2M$7.2W6.2W17.pA.pA
19.pA.pA24.M12.3M8.M$.2W5.W7.W16.pA.pA21.pA45.2M$.2W2.3W12.2M3.2M5.pA
.pA6.2O5.2O4.pA27.3M17.M.M$5.W17.M7.pA.pA7.2O5.O4.pA.pA3.2pA21.M19.M$
.2W17.M5.M5.pA13.O.O5.pA4.pA.pA20.3M5.M10.2M$W.6W13.2M.2M20.2O12.2pA
13.2M12.2M$W4.W2.W13.M.M11.2O37.2M12.2M$.3W3.2W14.M12.2O51.M14.M$3.2W
18.M30.2M22.2M24.M$54.M23.2M13.3M8.M$10.2W16.2S12.M9.M.M13.2pA24.3M$
10.W16.S.S10.M.M9.2M14.pA.pA13.2S$4.2W6.W7.2M4.S6.2M4.M.M27.2pA4.2M6.
S.S$4.2W5.2W8.M3.S7.2M3.M2.M23.pA9.2M6.2S5.2M$18.3M3.S3.pA10.M.M22.pA
.pA13.S9.2M$18.M4.S3.pA.pA10.M.M22.pA6.S6.S.S23.Q.Q$22.S5.pA.pA11.M
28.S.S4.S.S12.2M11.4Q$21.S7.pA.pA39.S.S3.S.S13.2M9.Q.2Q$20.S4.O4.pA.pA
39.S5.S6.M18.Q4.Q$19.S4.2O5.pA.pA25.2S8.S5.S7.3M18.3Q.2Q$18.S5.2O6.pA
25.S.S7.S.S3.S.S5.M7.2M13.3Q.Q$14.2S.S6.O32.S2.S.S6.S5.S6.2M6.2M12.Q
3.2Q$13.S.2S25.pA5.2pA7.2S2.2S3.S5.S33.Q.Q$13.S5.O16.2pA3.pA.pA3.pA.pA
4.O10.S.S3.S.S30.Q2.Q.Q$5.W6.2S5.3O8.2W4.2pA4.pA4.pA5.O.O10.S5.S7.M4.
3Q17.Q.Q$3.2W17.O6.W16.2pA6.O8.S5.S9.M.M$4.2W15.2O9.W29.S.S3.S.S7.M3.
M$14.2S14.2W31.S5.S9.3M8.3Q$2.W11.2S10.2W22.2S8.S5.S10.2M3.2M$W2.W21.
W23.S.S7.S.S3.S.S$W2.W7.S16.W19.S2.S.S6.S5.S$.W7.S2.S6.2W.2W2.2W12.2U
6.2S2.2S3.S5.S$5.W3.S2.S6.W3.W16.2U14.S.S3.S.S$3.2W5.S9.3W34.S5.S6.pA
$4.2W9.2W20.U16.S5.S8.pA.pA25.2Q$15.2W19.U.U6.O7.S.S3.S.S8.pA25.Q2.Q$
20.3W14.U6.O.O7.S5.S36.Q.Q$4.2W13.W3.W.2W7.U9.2O5.S5.S32.2M6.Q$3.4W.W
10.2W.2W.2W6.U.U14.S.S3.S.S23.2M6.2M$.W4.2W6.2W18.U16.S5.S18.S5.M$W6.
W.W3.W.W38.S15.2S4.3S4.3M$3W5.2W2.W.W26.2O10.S.S14.2S7.S5.M7.2M$8.2W
3.W20.U5.O9.S3.S10.S12.2S13.2M9.Q2.Q.Q$4.W28.U.U7.O5.S.S13.3S37.Q.Q.Q
$3.W7.W22.U6.2O7.2S16.S21.2M14.Q$3.3W4.2W19.U35.2S21.2M17.Q$8.W17.U3.
U.U74.Q$7.W9.M6.U2.U3.U3.2U8.2pA58.2Q2.Q$7.3W6.M2.M4.U2.U7.U9.2pA57.
3Q.2Q$13.2M.M2.M5.U10.3U12.pA7.2S5.Q37.2Q3.Q$14.M5.M17.U11.pA.pA5.S.S
4.Q.Q37.2Q.2Q$15.5M15.U.U13.pA6.S6.2Q38.Q$16.M.M.M14.2U11.pA8.2S45.3Q
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Re: (Engineered) diehards

Post by calcyman » July 18th, 2023, 10:39 am

Pavgran wrote:
July 18th, 2023, 10:00 am
363 loaves, if I'm counting correctly:
This should be 13131937954518 loaves, if I'm counting correctly, but there are a couple of issues:

1. The bounding box is 112x90, but that should hopefully be improvable using a SAT solver;
2. I had to delete two mint-green toads to get this to work; are these necessary for self-destruction?

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x = 112, y = 90, rule = LifeSuper
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Re: (Engineered) diehards

Post by Pavgran » July 18th, 2023, 10:58 am

calcyman wrote:
July 18th, 2023, 10:39 am
This should be 13131937954518 loaves, if I'm counting correctly, but there are a couple of issues:

1. The bounding box is 112x90, but that should hopefully be improvable using a SAT solver;
2. I had to delete two mint-green toads to get this to work; are these necessary for self-destruction?
Wow, impressive!
No, these toads just add two more layers.

Meanwhile, I was working on this:

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x = 112, y = 90, rule = LifeSuper
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Re: (Engineered) diehards

Post by EvinZL » July 18th, 2023, 12:03 pm

calcyman wrote:
July 18th, 2023, 10:39 am
This should be 13131937954518 loaves, if I'm counting correctly, but there are a couple of issues:

1. The bounding box is 112x90, but that should hopefully be improvable using a SAT solver;
2. I had to delete two mint-green toads to get this to work; are these necessary for self-destruction?

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x = 112, y = 90, rule = LifeSuper
<snip>
111x90 via spacedust

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x = 111, y = 90, rule = LifeSuper
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Re: (Engineered) diehards

Post by dvgrn » July 18th, 2023, 12:40 pm

Pavgran wrote:
July 18th, 2023, 10:00 am
363 loaves, if I'm counting correctly:
calcyman wrote:
July 18th, 2023, 10:39 am
This should be 13131937954518 loaves, if I'm counting correctly...
Wow. That space that Pavgran added fifty loaves by filling is now completely empty again. It seems like it might not be impossible to re-fill it and add another ~50 loaves, but it looks like it would take another rework of the fuse ignition mechanism... and +50 suddenly doesn't look like such an impressive change any more.

For anyone who is curious, the interaction that ultimately triggers the fuse is now happening around T = 315,166,510,908,180, when a block is finally pulled all the way back into the diehard mechanism from the c/5 spaceship for ... I think the fifth time? Somewhere around there ... and blocks a suppressing glider.

That's a slightly larger number than T ~ 7,500, so don't try getting to that generation number with LifeViewer -- the current version can't quite handle the required grid size.

EDIT: For the patched 111x90 version from the previous message, the number seems to be a couple of orders of magnitude bigger, just as implied by the "121x loaf". Now it's T = 38,135,147,819,990,575.

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