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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by towerator » November 4th, 2013, 2:55 pm

a way to get an easy synthesis of loaf siamese loaf?

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x = 6, y = 6, rule = B3/S23
2bo$bobobo$obo2bo$bo2$b2o!
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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by mniemiec » November 9th, 2013, 1:15 pm

towerator wrote:a way to get an easy synthesis of loaf siamese loaf?
This can already be synthesized from a mere 4 gliders. Doing it from the barge and two domino sparks would take 9.

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x = 26, y = 8, rule = B3/S23
6bo$4bobo15b2o$5b2o14bo2bo$b2o18bobobo$obo4bo14bo2bo$2bo4bobo6b2o5b2o$
7b2o7bobo$16bo!

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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by towerator » November 9th, 2013, 1:24 pm

The wiki says 8 gliders...
P.S. Oddly enough, using a long barge creates a beehive at beehive.
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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by mniemiec » November 9th, 2013, 2:06 pm

towerator wrote:The wiki says 8 gliders...
P.S. Oddly enough, using a long barge creates a beehive at beehive.
The original synthesis was the 8-glider one devised by David Buckingham (who did most of the work on synthesizing small objects). I think most of the small object syntheses on this wiki came from my web site (currently down), which in turn came from his synthesis library. The last time I updated that was in 1998, and there have been many small improvements since that time. Dean Hickerson found a 5-glider synthesis, and more recently. B. Shemyakin found the 4-glider one.

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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by towerator » November 9th, 2013, 2:31 pm

1998 you say?
Meh...
I wasn't born...
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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by mniemiec » November 9th, 2013, 6:48 pm

towerator wrote:1998 you say?
Meh...
I wasn't born...
I guess this means that, at least from your own perspective (and likely also for most other people who are on this site), Life is prehistoric!

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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by towerator » November 9th, 2013, 7:00 pm

Sure, life is thrice as old as me...
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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by MikeP » December 17th, 2013, 2:28 pm

I've got a sneaking suspicion that I've seen these p46 shuttle stabilisations somewhere before, but I have no idea where. Does anyone know if they're new?

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x = 32, y = 49, rule = B3/S23
22b2o$23bo$23bob2ob2obo$24bobobob2o2$17b2o$2o15bobo$2o17bo$17b3o4$17b
3o7b2o$2o17bo7b2o$2o15bobo$17b2o15$22b2o$23bo$23bob2ob2obo$24bobobob2o
2$17b2o$2o15bobo$2o17bo$17b3o4$17b3o$2o17bo$2o15bobo$17b2o7b2o$26bobo$
28bo$28b2o!

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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by Freywa » December 17th, 2013, 11:01 pm

MikeP wrote:I've got a sneaking suspicion that I've seen these p46 shuttle stabilisations somewhere before, but I have no idea where. Does anyone know if they're new?

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x = 32, y = 49, rule = B3/S23
22b2o$23bo$23bob2ob2obo$24bobobob2o2$17b2o$2o15bobo$2o17bo$17b3o4$17b
3o7b2o$2o17bo7b2o$2o15bobo$17b2o15$22b2o$23bo$23bob2ob2obo$24bobobob2o
2$17b2o$2o15bobo$2o17bo$17b3o4$17b3o$2o17bo$2o15bobo$17b2o7b2o$26bobo$
28bo$28b2o!
That is totally new. Your "sneaking suspicion" may derive from the fact that the hook-with-tail/snake stabilisation is a rock, just like this well-known hat cap:

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x = 29, y = 11, rule = B3/S23
10b2o$9bobo$9bo$3bo5b3o13bo$b3o21b3o$o27bo$b3o21b3o$3bo5b3o13bo$9bo$9b
obo$10b2o!
Oh, and did you use Bellman to find that?
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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by codeholic » December 18th, 2013, 6:44 pm

(8,1)c/63 pi crawler:

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x = 82, y = 111, rule = B3/S23
obo$b2o$bo21$18bo$19bo$17b3o22$34bo$35b2o$34b2o22$52bo$50bobo$51b2o22$
67bobo$68b2o$68bo4$80bo$79bobo$78bo2bo$78bo2bo5$80b2o$80b2o!
(10,7)c/75 pi crawler:

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x = 116, y = 141, rule = B3/S23
2bo$obo$b2o27$26bobo$27b2o$27bo26$53bo$54bo$52b3o27$78bo$79b2o$78b2o
27$105bo$103bobo$104b2o13$113bo$112bobo$111bo3bo$112bobo5$112bo$111bob
o$112bo!
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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by MikeP » December 21st, 2013, 1:02 pm

Freywa wrote:Oh, and did you use Bellman to find that?
Yes, they were Bellman finds. Here are a couple more:

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x = 31, y = 43, rule = B3/S23
24b2o$24b2o2$17b2o$2o15bobo5b2o$2o17bo5b2o$17b3o2$26bo$26b3o$17b3o9bo$
2o17bo6b2o2bo$2o15bobo7bob2o$17b2o8bo$26b2o$27bob2o$25bobob2o$25b2o8$
24b2o$23bobo$24bo$17b2o$2o15bobo$2o17bo$17b3o4$17b3o$2o17bo8b2o$2o15bo
bo8b2o$17b2o2$25bo$24bobo$24b2o!

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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by Herik Zorneck » March 7th, 2014, 12:33 am

Hello to all

I not find this p5 oscillator and this still life in lists of known objects of life. I wondering if it is something new , not discovered yet.

thanks for you feedback!

Herik

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x = 36, y = 17, rule = B3/S23
24b2o3b2o$24bobobobo$3b2o3b2o16bobo$3bobobobo16bobo$5bobo18bobo$2o2b2o
b2o2b2o6b2o4bo3bo4b2o$o2bo5bo2bo6bo4bo5bo4bo$b3o5b3o8b4o7b4o2$b3o5b3o
8b4o7b4o$o2bo5bo2bo6bo4bo5bo4bo$2o2b2ob2o2b2o6b2o4bo3bo4b2o$5bobo18bob
o$3bobobobo16bobo$3b2o3b2o16bobo$24bobobobo$24b2o3b2o!

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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by Herik Zorneck » March 7th, 2014, 2:30 am

a well know Queen Bee Shuttle oscillator

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x = 24, y = 24, rule = B3/S23
9b2o$9bo2bo$13bo$13bo$13bo$9bo2bo$9b2o3$17b2o3b2o$2b3o12bo5bo$bo3bo$
18bo3bo$o5bo12b3o$2o3b2o3$13b2o$11bo2bo$10bo$10bo$10bo$11bo2bo$13b2o!
my 2 "new" Queen Bee Shuttle oscillators :

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x = 75, y = 88, rule = B3/S23
14b2o9b2o$12bo2bo9bo2bo$11bo17bo$11bo17bo$11bo17bo$12bo2bo9bo2bo$14b2o
9b2o$2b3o$bo3bo2$o5bo$2o3b2o25b3o$31bo3bo2$30bo5bo$30b2o3b2o7$2b2o3b2o
$2bo5bo2$3bo3bo$4b3o25b2o3b2o$32bo5bo2$33bo3bo$34b3o$12b2o9b2o$10bo2bo
9bo2bo$9bo17bo$9bo17bo$9bo17bo$10bo2bo9bo2bo$12b2o9b2o5$51bobo$49bo3bo
$49bo$48bo4bo$49bo$49bo3bo$51bobo3$42bo$41b3o$40b5o13b3o$39b2o3b2o11bo
3bo$40b5o$40bo3bo11bo5bo$41bobo12b2o3b2o$42bo$49b2o$47bo2bo7b2o$46bo7b
2o4bo$46bo6bo6bo$46bo7b6o$47bo2bo12b2o$49b2o12bo2bo$54b6o7bo$53bo6bo6b
o$53bo4b2o7bo$54b2o7bo2bo$63b2o$71bo$51b2o3b2o12bobo$51bo5bo11bo3bo$
69b5o$52bo3bo11b2o3b2o$53b3o13b5o$70b3o$71bo3$60bobo$60bo3bo$64bo$60bo
4bo$64bo$60bo3bo$60bobo!

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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by Herik Zorneck » March 7th, 2014, 10:34 pm

I not find this p5 oscillator and this still life in lists of known objects of life
the oscillator is a harbor but the still life still unknow for me. :(

P.S. : I'm still in doubt about these two still lifes, if they are not discovered yet. if someone can tell me I am very grateful.

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x = 13, y = 27, rule = B3/S23
3b2o3b2o$3bobobobo$5bobo$2o2b2ob2o2b2o$o2bo5bo2bo$b3o5b3o2$b3o5b3o$o2b
o5bo2bo$2o2b2ob2o2b2o$5bobo$3bobobobo$3b2o3b2o4$4bo3bo$3bobobobo$2bo2b
obo2bo$bo3bobo3bo$2b3o3b3o2$2b3o3b3o$bo3bobo3bo$2bo2bobo2bo$3bobobobo$
4bo3bo!

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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by Kazyan » March 10th, 2014, 3:50 pm

Is this methuselah known? I found it in a 10-cell form, but the following generation is only 9 cells, and it's hard to believe anything with a single-digit number of cells isn't known by now. It's definitely not an acorn derivative (found a couple of those earlier) and its lifespan isn't in the "longest-lived methuselahs" section of the wiki.

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#C "Jaydot" stabilizes at generation 6930 and fits in a 5x5 bounding box.
#C Following generation is 9 cells and fits in a 3x6 box.
x = 5, y = 5, rule = B3/S23
b4o$2bo$2bo$obobo$bo!
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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by mniemiec » March 13th, 2014, 6:54 pm

Herik Zorneck wrote:I'm still in doubt about these two still lifes, if they are not discovered yet. if someone can tell me I am very grateful.
All still-lifes up to 24 bits have been counted, but there has not, as yet, been any attempt to systematically list or count larger ones. Still, since there are over 4 million 24-bit ones, and each bit added increases the number by approximately 2.45, there should be around 6 trillion 40-bit ones and 11 quintillion 56-bit ones, so you can understand why nobofy takes great note of them unless they have some particularly notable features (such as occurring spontaneously from soups, or being useful as eaters, etc.). The 40-bit one with the four large loaves looks like it should be fairly easy to synthesize (there are a few other large ones with similar structures). I'm not sure abot the 56-bit one with the 8 bookends - I'll have to look into it when I have some time.
Kazyan wrote:Is this methuselah known? I found it in a 10-cell form, but the following generation is only 9 cells, and it's hard to believe anything with a single-digit number of cells isn't known by now. It's definitely not an acorn derivative (found a couple of those earlier) and its lifespan isn't in the "longest-lived methuselahs" section of the wiki.

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#C "Jaydot" stabilizes at generation 6930 and fits in a 5x5 bounding box.
#C Following generation is 9 cells and fits in a 3x6 box.
x = 5, y = 5, rule = B3/S23
b4o$2bo$2bo$obobo$bo!
Back in the '80s (I think), Thompson ran all objects up to 10 bits, so he must have come across this at some point. Still, I don't recall ever seeing it, so it should probably get added to the wiki. I'll add it to my own lists once I figure out how to synthesize it from gliders (which looks like it shouldn't be too difficult).

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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by Herik Zorneck » March 14th, 2014, 3:45 pm

mniemiec wrote: All still-lifes up to 24 bits have been counted, but there has not, as yet, been any attempt to systematically list or count larger ones. Still, since there are over 4 million 24-bit ones, and each bit added increases the number by approximately 2.45, there should be around 6 trillion 40-bit ones and 11 quintillion 56-bit ones, so you can understand why nobofy takes great note of them unless they have some particularly notable features (such as occurring spontaneously from soups, or being useful as eaters, etc.). The 40-bit one with the four large loaves looks like it should be fairly easy to synthesize (there are a few other large ones with similar structures). I'm not sure abot the 56-bit one with the 8 bookends - I'll have to look into it when I have some time.
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sorry... i had no idea it was so hard and that there were so many still lifes.
if you can tell me something about the 56 bit pattern when you have some time I thank you very much. :-)

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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by Extrementhusiast » March 16th, 2014, 10:07 pm

Pretty simple p56 agar that may or may not have been discovered already:

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x = 40, y = 40, rule = B3/S23:T40,40
11b2o$11bobo$13b2o$11bobo$11b2o3bo$15b3o$14bo3bo$14b2ob2o4$2ob2o$o3bo$
b3o$2bo3b2o$5bobo$4b2o$5bobo$6b2o2$31b2o$31bobo$33b2o$31bobo$31b2o3bo$
35b3o$34bo3bo$34b2ob2o4$20b2ob2o$20bo3bo$21b3o$22bo3b2o$25bobo$24b2o$
25bobo$26b2o!
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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by mniemiec » March 20th, 2014, 6:53 pm

Kayzan wrote:"Jaydot" stabilizes at generation 6930 and fits in a 5x5 bounding box. Following generation is 9 cells and fits in a 3x6 box.
The 9-bit successor and a trivial relative can be easily synthesized from four gliders in several different ways:

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x = 69, y = 45, rule = B3/S23
4bo39bo$3bo39bo$3b3o37b3o$$obo37bobo$boo38boo$bo21boo16bo21boo$22b3o
37b3o$$23bo25bo13bo$23boobbo19boo14boo$boo19bo5bo12boo5boo12bo$obo5boo
30bobo25bo$bbo4boo33bo24bo$9bo16$bbo39bo$3bo39bo$b3o37b3o$$4bobo37bobo
$4boo38boo$5bo16boo21bo16boo$22b3o37b3o$$23bo25bo13bo$23boobbo19boo14b
oo$boo19bo5bo12boo5boo12bo$obo5boo30bobo25bo$bbo4boo33bo24bo$9bo!

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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by Kazyan » April 26th, 2014, 8:32 pm

Looks like it might be synthesis-compatible, but, well, this thread.

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# Eater siamese eater and a blinker from 6x6 soup
x = 6, y = 6, rule = B3/S23
5o$b3o$2bobo$4obo$3b3o$4obo!
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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by Splarka » May 17th, 2014, 5:05 pm

Blinker + 3 gliders makes bakery + blinker. Give just the right period/speed rake, and this makes a strange puffer, where the debris goes off in another direction and period. Is there a name for things like this? Specifically. how it diverges in direction.

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# Divergent pseudoperiod P76 bakery puffer using C/4 P24 rake and blinker
x = 66, y = 67, rule = B3/S23
46bo$45bo$47b2o$46b2obo$46b2o2bo$45b3ob2o$44bobo2bo$44bo$45b4o$4bobo4b
2o33b2o$2o2b6o2bo3b2o6bo20b2o$2bo5b4obobo3b2o2b2o18b4o$6bob6o3bo6bo18b
o2bo$17bo3b2o23bo$19bob2o20bo2bo$14b2obo3bo23b2o$16b3ob2o22bo$16b2ob2o
23b3o$16bo27b3o$16bob3o27b2o$20b2o2bo22bobo$9bo9b2o4b2o20bobo$9bob2obo
bo3b2o2bo11bobobo4b2obo$12bobo4bob2o6b3obobo2b2obo2b3obo$31bobo7bo2bob
2o$15b2o3bo8b2o7b3o17b2o$17b3o9b6o25bo$34b3obo8b2o5bobo3b2o$32bo3b3o3b
o4bobo3bobo4b2o$31bobo2bo2bo2bobob2obo8bo$31b2o4b2o3bobo5bobo3bo5b2obo
$31bo16bo3bobobobobo4bo$31b2o16bobo7b2ob2obo$23b6o2b3o$31b2o16bobo7b2o
b2obo$31bo16bo3bobobobobo4bo$31b2o4b2o3bobo5bobo3bo5b2obo$19bo11bobo2b
o2bo2bobob2obo8bo$17b4o11bo3b3o3bo4bobo3bobo4b2o$17b4o13b3obo8b2o5bobo
3b2o$16bo4b2o6b6o25bo$12b2o2bo5b2o5b2o7b3o17b2o$11b3o2bo6bo2bo4bobo7bo
2bob2o$11bo8bo4b2o2b3obobo2b2obo2b3obo$19bo2bo3bo9bobobo4b2obo$3b3o12b
ob3o24bobo$16b2o29bobo$16bo3b3o25b2o$22bo21b3o$16bobobo23b3o$17bobo24b
o$10b4o5bob4o20b2o$8b2o4b2obobob3obo17bo2bo$2bo11b2o2b2o4b3o19bo$2bob
2obo6bo2bo6b2o17bo2bo$5bobobo2b2o29b4o$45b2o$46b2o$45b4o$44bo$44bobo2b
o$45b3ob2o$46b2o2bo$46b2obo$47b2o$45bo$46bo!

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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by Extrementhusiast » May 17th, 2014, 7:52 pm

Splarka wrote:Blinker + 3 gliders makes bakery + blinker. Give just the right period/speed rake, and this makes a strange puffer, where the debris goes off in another direction and period. Is there a name for things like this? Specifically. how it diverges in direction.

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# Divergent pseudoperiod P76 bakery puffer using C/4 P24 rake and blinker
x = 66, y = 67, rule = B3/S23
46bo$45bo$47b2o$46b2obo$46b2o2bo$45b3ob2o$44bobo2bo$44bo$45b4o$4bobo4b
2o33b2o$2o2b6o2bo3b2o6bo20b2o$2bo5b4obobo3b2o2b2o18b4o$6bob6o3bo6bo18b
o2bo$17bo3b2o23bo$19bob2o20bo2bo$14b2obo3bo23b2o$16b3ob2o22bo$16b2ob2o
23b3o$16bo27b3o$16bob3o27b2o$20b2o2bo22bobo$9bo9b2o4b2o20bobo$9bob2obo
bo3b2o2bo11bobobo4b2obo$12bobo4bob2o6b3obobo2b2obo2b3obo$31bobo7bo2bob
2o$15b2o3bo8b2o7b3o17b2o$17b3o9b6o25bo$34b3obo8b2o5bobo3b2o$32bo3b3o3b
o4bobo3bobo4b2o$31bobo2bo2bo2bobob2obo8bo$31b2o4b2o3bobo5bobo3bo5b2obo
$31bo16bo3bobobobobo4bo$31b2o16bobo7b2ob2obo$23b6o2b3o$31b2o16bobo7b2o
b2obo$31bo16bo3bobobobobo4bo$31b2o4b2o3bobo5bobo3bo5b2obo$19bo11bobo2b
o2bo2bobob2obo8bo$17b4o11bo3b3o3bo4bobo3bobo4b2o$17b4o13b3obo8b2o5bobo
3b2o$16bo4b2o6b6o25bo$12b2o2bo5b2o5b2o7b3o17b2o$11b3o2bo6bo2bo4bobo7bo
2bob2o$11bo8bo4b2o2b3obobo2b2obo2b3obo$19bo2bo3bo9bobobo4b2obo$3b3o12b
ob3o24bobo$16b2o29bobo$16bo3b3o25b2o$22bo21b3o$16bobobo23b3o$17bobo24b
o$10b4o5bob4o20b2o$8b2o4b2obobob3obo17bo2bo$2bo11b2o2b2o4b3o19bo$2bob
2obo6bo2bo6b2o17bo2bo$5bobobo2b2o29b4o$45b2o$46b2o$45b4o$44bo$44bobo2b
o$45b3ob2o$46b2o2bo$46b2obo$47b2o$45bo$46bo!
I don't think there's a name per se, but this concept has been discussed a couple of times.
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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by Splarka » May 17th, 2014, 8:06 pm

Extrementhusiast wrote: I don't think there's a name per se, but this concept has been discussed a couple of times.
Hmm, I see. Per the second link, part of the flying wing can be isolated as another example easily:

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x = 27, y = 28, rule = B3/S23
16bo$17bobobo$19bo2bo$22b2o$24bo$22b4o$14bo6bo4bo$14bob2o5bo2bo$17bo5b
o2bo$17bo7bo$19bob4o$19bo3bo$10b6o6bo$9bo5bo2b5o$15bo$9bo4bo3b5o$11b2o
9bo$16bo2bo3bo$19bob4o$b3o5bo5bobo7bo$bobo4bo8bo5bo2bo$b3o4b3o4b3o5bo
2bo$21bo4bo$22b4o$24bo$22b2o$19bo2bo$19bobo!
Maybe "smoker" or "nimby puffer". Heh. I wonder if anyone collects these.

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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by dvgrn » May 18th, 2014, 11:40 am

Splarka wrote:Hmm, I see. Per the second link, part of the flying wing can be isolated as another example easily...
Conversely, you can build a flying-wing-type growing spaceship out of your original example:

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x = 445, y = 138, rule = B3/S23
184bo$183bobo$183bo$185b2o$185b3o$183bo3b2o$182bobo$182b2o2bo$184b2o$
139bobo8bo34bo$139bobob3o3b2o3b2o5bo$139bo4bob4o3bob3o4b2o18b3o$144bo
6b3obob2o2bo19b2o2bo$145bo4bob2obobobo22bo$152b2obob3o21bob2o$152b2o5b
o21bob2o$155b2obo$155bob2o24b2o$155bo24b2obo$152b2o3b2o27b2o$155bo2bo
2bobo22b2o$148bo9bo4bo21bo$146b2o2bobo5b2o3bo3b2o6bobo6bobo$150b6o5bo
9bobobo2b2obob2obo$154b4obo8bobob2o4b2obo3bo81bo$152bob5o9bo4b5o18b2o
68bobo$168b5ob2o20b2o68bo$167bo6bo11bo4b2o2b2obo69b2o$156bo12bobo3bobo
2bo4b2o6bob2ob2o68b3o$171bo2bo2bo2b3o2bobo4b2o2bo69bo3b2o$156b3o10b2o
4b2o4b2o2bo2bob5obo4b2o62bobo$169bo17b2obo3bo4bob3o61b2o2bo$155b3o6bo
5bo16b3o6b3o2b2o64b2o$153b2ob3obo3bo5bo51bobo8bo34bo$154b2ob2obo3bo5bo
16b3o6b3o2b2o19bobob3o3b2o3b2o5bo$169bo17b2obo3bo4bob3o18bo4bob4o3bob
3o4b2o18b3o$142bo26b2o4b2o4b2o2bo2bob5obo4b2o24bo6b3obob2o2bo19b2o2bo$
141bo29bo2bo2bo2b3o2bobo4b2o2bo31bo4bob2obobobo22bo$141b3o12b3o10bobo
3bobo2bo4b2o6bob2ob2o35b2obob3o21bob2o$154b2o3bo7bo6bo11bo4b2o2b2obo
36b2o5bo21bob2o$168b5ob2o20b2o40b2obo$151bobo4bob2o6bo4b5o18b2o40bob2o
24b2o$130bo17bob2obobo3b2o2bo4bobob2o4b2obo3bo52bo24b2obo$129bo18bo9b
2o4b2o5bobobo2b2obob2obo48b2o3b2o27b2o$129b3o27b2o2bo3b2o6bobo6bobo51b
o2bo2bobo22b2o$155bob3o25bo45bo9bo4bo21bo$155bo30b2o41b2o2bobo5b2o3bo
3b2o6bobo6bobo$155b2ob2o26b2o45b6o5bo9bobobo2b2obob2obo$118bo36b3ob2o
19b2obo53b4obo8bobob2o4b2obo3bo$117bo35b2obo3bo22b2o50bob5o9bo4b5o18b
2o63b3o$117b3o38bob2o89b5ob2o20b2o63b3o$156bo3b2o19bob2o65bo6bo11bo4b
2o2b2obo64b2o$145bob6o3bo6bo17bob2o54bo12bobo3bobo2bo4b2o6bob2ob2o65bo
$141bo5b4obobo3b2o2b2o18bo71bo2bo2bo2b3o2bobo4b2o2bo65bo3bo$106bo32b2o
2b6o2bo3b2o6bo17b2o2bo53b3o10b2o4b2o4b2o2bo2bob5obo4b2o57bobo2bo$105bo
37bobo4b2o30b3o67bo17b2obo3bo4bob3o55bobo$105b3o130b3o6bo5bo16b3o6b3o
2b2o59b3o$185bo50b2ob3obo3bo5bo47b2o2bo4bo$184b2o51b2ob2obo3bo5bo16b3o
6b3o2b2o14b3o2bo5b2o2bo5bobo$182b2o2bo65bo17b2obo3bo4bob3o13bo4bo4bo3b
ob2obo3bo20b2o$94bo87bobo40bo26b2o4b2o4b2o2bo2bob5obo4b2o20b4o2b2o2bob
o4bo18b2o2bo$93bo89bo3b2o35bo29bo2bo2bo2b3o2bobo4b2o2bo26b6obo2bobo2bo
21bo2bo$93b3o89b3o36b3o12b3o10bobo3bobo2bo4b2o6bob2ob2o25b2o4bobob3o
21bo$185b2o50b2o3bo7bo6bo11bo4b2o2b2obo32b3o25bob2o$183bo67b5ob2o20b2o
33bob2obo21b2obo$183bobo48bobo4bob2o6bo4b5o18b2o32b2o3b2o21b2ob2o$82bo
101bo28bo17bob2obobo3b2o2bo4bobob2o4b2obo3bo44b2obo25bo$81bo130bo18bo
9b2o4b2o5bobobo2b2obob2obo44b6o23bo3b2o$81b3o128b3o27b2o2bo3b2o6bobo6b
obo46bo2bo2b2o24bo$238bob3o25bo39bo13b3o20bo$238bo30b2o37bobo8b5o4b2o
5bo2bo6bobo$238b2ob2o26b2o37bobob3o3bobo7b2o5bobobob2o3b2o$70bo130bo
36b3ob2o19b2obo46bob6o8bob3o5bo3bobo$69bo130bo35b2obo3bo22b2o45bo15bo
2b2o2b3o19bo66b3o$69b3o128b3o38bob2o69bo12bob2obo2b2o20b2o66b3o$239bo
3b2o19bob2o48b2o10bo17bo5b2o3bo69b2o$228bob6o3bo6bo17bob2o61b2obo3b3ob
o6b2o3b2o3bob2o68bo$224bo5b4obobo3b2o2b2o18bo52bo9b2ob2o4b2obob2obo7bo
3bob2o65bo3bo$58bo130bo32b2o2b6o2bo3b2o6bo17b2o2bo49bo9b3o4b2o6bobo3bo
bo2bo3b2o3bo60bobo2bo$57bo130bo37bobo4b2o30b3o50bo8b2o18b5o2bobo2bo2b
2o59bobo$57b3o128b3o124bo11b3o27b3o3bo62b3o$268bo46bob2o2b2ob9o49b2o2b
o4bo$267b2o46b2obobo6b3o27b3o3bo17b3o2bo5b2o2bo5bobo$265b2o2bo57b2o18b
5o2bobo2bo2b2o17bo4bo4bo3bob2obo3bo20b2o$46bo130bo87bobo36bo23b3o4b2o
6bobo3bobo2bo3b2o3bo23b4o2b2o2bobo4bo18b2o2bo$45bo130bo89bo3b2o30b2o
24b2ob2o4b2obob2obo7bo3bob2o26b6obo2bobo2bo21bo2bo$45b3o128b3o89b3o32b
2o24b2obo3b3obo6b2o3b2o3bob2o28b2o4bobob3o21bo$268b2o44bob5o7bo17bo5b
2o3bo37b3o25bob2o$266bo49b4obo5bob2obo2b2o20b2o36bob2obo21b2obo$266bob
o43b6o5bo5bo2b2o2b3o19bo35b2o3b2o21b2ob2o$34bo130bo101bo24bo15b2o2bobo
5b2o3bo3bob3o5bo3bobo48b2obo25bo$33bo130bo125b2o18bo9bo4bo2b2o5bobobob
2o3b2o47b6o23bo3b2o$33b3o128b3o124b2o24bo2bo2bobo2b2o5bo2bo6bobo49bo2b
o2b2o24bo$314b2o3b2o24bo43bo13b3o20bo$317bo30bo40bobo8b5o4b2o5bo2bo6bo
bo$317bob2o22bo3b2o40bobob3o3bobo7b2o5bobobob2o3b2o$22bo130bo126bo36b
2obo21bo51bob6o8bob3o5bo3bobo$21bo130bo125b2o34b2o5bo19b2ob2o48bo15bo
2b2o2b3o19bo$21b3o128b3o124b2o33b2obob3o19b2obo50bo12bob2obo2b2o20b2o$
307bo4bob2obobobo20bob2o51b2o10bo17bo5b2o3bo$306bo6b3obob2o2bo18bo67b
2obo3b3obo6b2o3b2o3bob2o$301bo4bob4o3bob3o4b2o17bo2bo52bo9b2ob2o4b2obo
b2obo7bo3bob2o$10bo130bo126bo32bobob3o3b2o3b2o5bo18b2o2bo52bo9b3o4b2o
6bobo3bobo2bo3b2o3bo$9bo130bo125b2o33bobo8bo31b2o53bo8b2o18b5o2bobo2bo
2b2o$9b3o128b3o124b2o127bo11b3o27b3o3bo$396bob2o2b2ob9o$345b3o48b2obob
o6b3o27b3o3bo$13bo328bobo63b2o18b5o2bobo2bo2b2o$13bo16bo98bo6b2o118bo
86bobo2bo36bo23b3o4b2o6bobo3bobo2bo3b2o3bo$13bo16bo16bo80bo7b2o15b2o
99b2o89bo3bo33b2o24b2ob2o4b2obob2obo7bo3bob2o$17b2o11bo16bo16bo63b3o
22b2o15b2o83b2o91bo35b2o24b2obo3b3obo6b2o3b2o3bob2o$2o14bo2bo14b2o11bo
16bo16bo88b2o15b2o157b2o47bob5o7bo17bo5b2o3bo$2o14bobo14bo2bo14b2o11bo
16bo16bo88b2o15b2o138b3o50b4obo5bob2obo2b2o20b2o$17bo15bobo14bo2bo14b
2o11bo16bo16bo88b2o15b2o121b3o46b6o5bo5bo2b2o2b3o19bo$34bo15bobo14bo2b
o14b2o11bo16bo16bo5bo82b2o15b2o2b3o128bo15b2o2bobo5b2o3bo3bob3o5bo3bob
o$51bo15bobo14bo2bo14b2o11bo16bo5bo10bo5bo82b2o131b2o18bo9bo4bo2b2o5bo
bobob2o3b2o$68bo15bobo14bo2bo27bo5bo10bo5bo10bo5bo70b2o108bo3bo14b2o
24bo2bo2bobo2b2o5bo2bo6bobo$85bo15bobo13b3o29bo5bo10bo5bo10bo5bo52bo9b
2o99bo3bo37b2o3b2o24bo$102bo31b3o29bo5bo10bo5bo10bo5bo44bo2bo14b2o80b
2obo2bo40bo30bo$151b3o29bo5bo10bo5bo10bo5bo28bobo13bo2bo14b2o64bo2b3o
40bob2o22bo3b2o$168b3o29bo5bo10bo5bo13b2o10bo3bob2o12bobo13bo2bo14b2o
46b2o8bo36b2obo21bo$185b3o29bo5bo12b3o9bobo3bo2bo8bo3bob2o12bobo13bo2b
o14b2o33bo2b3o34b2o5bo19b2ob2o$202b3o32b2o9bo2bo3bobo7bobo3bo2bo8bo3bo
b2o12bobo13bo2bo14b2o14bobo2bob2o33b2obob3o19b2obo$219b3o27b2obo3bo8bo
2bo3bobo7bobo3bo2bo8bo3bob2o12bobo13bo2bo14bo2bo30bo4bob2obobobo20bob
2o$251bobo12b2obo3bo8bo2bo3bobo7bobo3bo2bo8bo3bob2o12bobo14b3o30bo6b3o
bob2o2bo18bo$251bo2bo13bobo12b2obo3bo8bo2bo3bobo7bobo3bo2bo8bo3bob2o
40bo4bob4o3bob3o4b2o17bo2bo$252b2o14bo2bo13bobo12b2obo3bo8bo2bo3bobo7b
obo3bo2bo39bobob3o3b2o3b2o5bo18b2o2bo$269b2o14bo2bo13bobo12b2obo3bo8bo
2bo3bobo39bobo8bo31b2o$286b2o14bo2bo13bobo12b2obo3bo$303b2o14bo2bo13bo
bo$320b2o14bo2bo86b3o$337b2o84bobo$424bobo2bo$426bo3bo$429bo$427b2o$
425b3o$425b3o!
Splarka wrote:Maybe "smoker" or "nimby puffer". Heh. I wonder if anyone collects these.
I was thinking maybe "tethered spaceship", by analogy to "tethered rake", where support for a moving active reaction turns a gun or multi-glider shotgun into a sort-of-rake. In this case an expanding stable object turns a simple rake into a sort-of-growing sort-of-spaceship.

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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by Splarka » May 18th, 2014, 1:06 pm

dvgrn wrote:
Splarka wrote:Hmm, I see. Per the second link, part of the flying wing can be isolated as another example easily...
Conversely, you can build a flying-wing-type growing spaceship out of your original example:

I was thinking maybe "tethered spaceship", by analogy to "tethered rake", where support for a moving active reaction turns a gun or multi-glider shotgun into a sort-of-rake. In this case an expanding stable object turns a simple rake into a sort-of-growing sort-of-spaceship.
Nice.

Hmm. How about this for a horrible pun: Call the ones in front "Unicorns", the structure the "Unicorn Horn", and the one at back that eats them "Red Bulls". This is stretching the analogy, but for a good reason. Red Bull gives you wings.

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