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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by Scorbie » January 12th, 2016, 9:55 am

Huh... Didn't expect anything based on that one! You might want to see Mike's other optimizations.

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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by praosylen » January 14th, 2016, 4:57 pm

I just found a Spartan catalyst that may or may not be considered transparent, depending on one's definition of "transparent":

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x = 8, y = 13, rule = B3/S23
b2o$b2o3$2o4bo$2o3bobo$6bo$bo$obo2$3o2$2bo!
It is, in some ways, a counterpart to Bellman One, in that it attacks the pre-TL from the opposite side. Unfortunately, it cannot catalyze a straight-up pre-TL, instead requiring another pattern to perturb the pre-TL as well. It may or may not be useful.
Edit: A variant:

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x = 9, y = 13, rule = B3/S23
b2o$b2o$7b2o$6bobo$2o4bo$2o3b2o2$bo$obo2$3o2$o!
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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by Sphenocorona » January 16th, 2016, 3:44 am

Fairly robust 3c/14 movement:

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x = 15, y = 7, rule = LifeHistory
3.3C3.3C$2.C3.C.C3.C$2.C3.C.C3.C$2.C3.C.C3.C$C2.3C3.3C2.C$C13.C$C13.C
!
It reappears exactly as it starts, but it gets destroyed by some extra blinkers it makes. It doesnt need a blinker to push it, but the blinker has the nice advantage that it reappears exactly where it needs to be. The form I discovered it in leads to the above state by pushing the pre-pulsar with some other reaction that didn't involve a blinker.

I don't imagine that this speed will be made into a spaceship any time soon, but this engine seems like it would be a good start for such a search.

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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by drc » January 17th, 2016, 3:38 pm

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x = 8, y = 6, rule = B3/S23
b2o$ob2o$2bo$5bo$4b2obo$5b2o!
Possible P5/P10 pi flipper

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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by praosylen » January 18th, 2016, 11:45 am

A transparent loaf catalyst that I found looking through old catalyst test results:

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x = 19, y = 16, rule = B3/S23
17b2o$17bo$15bobo$15b2o2$7b2o$6bo2bo$7bobo$8bo$bo$2o3b3o$5bobo$4bo3bo$
8bo$8bo$7bo!
It has a multitude of variations. May or may not be useful.
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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by gmc_nxtman » January 18th, 2016, 2:31 pm

drc wrote:

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x = 8, y = 6, rule = B3/S23
b2o$ob2o$2bo$5bo$4b2obo$5b2o!
Possible P5/P10 pi flipper
Unfortunately, the corresponding wick is in jslife's "w00010.lif":

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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by Scorbie » January 21st, 2016, 3:40 am

Here are some of the results digged up from the archives that may possibly useful / suggest a possibly useful search area.

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x = 92, y = 34, rule = B3/S23
84b3o$84b3o$85bo$85bo$85bo$84bobo3$84bobo$85bo$85bo$85bo$84b3o$84b3o4$
2bo$2ob2o75b2o8b2o$o79b2o7b2o$o3bo36bo11b2o6b2o27bo$b3o37b3o8bo2bo4bo
2bo$44bo7bo2bo4bo2bo$43b2o7bo2bo4bo2bo$6b2o45b2o6b2o$5bo2bo$5bo2bo$6b
2o3$8bo31b2o4bo$8bo31b2o3b3o$8bo$46bo!

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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by Kazyan » January 24th, 2016, 1:34 am

This looks familiar, but I don't see an "HR48B" in the November 11th conduit collection. Is it known?

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x = 27, y = 19, rule = LifeHistory
6.A$6.3A$9.A10.2A$8.2A3.B5.B2AB.2A$8.8B4.3B.2A$10.8B.6B$10.13B$9.14B.
2B$7.18B2A$5.18B.B2A$5.2BC15B2.B$4.3BCBC4B.7B$5.2B3C4B2.6B$4.5BC4B2.
6B$3.10B4.2D2BD$2.4B12.3D$.4B14.D$4B$.2B!
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Post by dvgrn » January 24th, 2016, 2:34 am

Kazyan wrote:This looks familiar, but I don't see an "HR48B" in the November 11th conduit collection. Is it known?
Pretty sure that one's new. Some of Guam's mechanisms look kind of like it, but those are pi inputs feeding into a modified R64 turn.

I suppose in the 1990's someone might have quietly discarded it because they didn't know about our new reliable salvage-a-B-output BBx187H yet. Or there's a B-to-G that can connect to it, too -- BNW39T172.

Are there other B-input circuits that fit? I wish there were more -- it's such a nice Spartan conduit. BRx46B can technically be attached, but then I don't know what to do with that output B.

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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by simeks » January 24th, 2016, 2:59 pm

Kazyan wrote:This looks familiar, but I don't see an "HR48B" in the November 11th conduit collection. Is it known?
Very nice discovery! (Oh, and this too!)

Did you notice it makes a perfect period doubler? Are there any smaller known color-preserving semi-Snarks than these?

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x = 228, y = 70, rule = LifeHistory
19.A130.A$17.3A128.3A$16.A130.A$16.2A129.2A$30.A130.A$28.3A128.3A$27.
A130.A$27.2A129.2A3$24.2A129.2A$6.A11.A4.A.A111.A11.A4.A.A$5.A2.A7.A
2.A3.3A2.A.A105.A2.A7.A2.A3.3A2.A.A$6.A.3A3.2A3.A4.A5.A106.A.3A3.2A3.
A4.A5.A$6.A.2A.2A.2A3.A6.A3.A106.A.2A.2A.2A3.A6.A3.A$10.A2.3A10.A2.A
111.A2.3A10.A2.A$2.2A7.A.2A2.2A8.A105.2A7.A.2A2.2A8.A$.A.A7.A.2A.A2.A
112.A.A7.A.2A.A2.A$.A10.A3.A3.A111.A10.A3.A3.A$2A15.A.A111.2A15.A.A$
18.A130.A3$17.2A129.2A$17.2A129.2A3$6.2A129.2A$5.A.A128.A.A$5.A130.A$
4.2A66.A62.2A66.A$10.2A52.2A6.3A66.2A60.3A$11.A45.2A6.A9.A10.2A54.A
45.2A16.A10.2A$8.3A46.A7.A.A6.2A10.2A2.2A47.3A46.A16.2A10.2A2.2A$8.A
50.A6.2A22.2A47.A50.A30.2A$58.2A129.2A2$44.2A129.2A$45.A45.2A83.A45.
2A$45.A.2A42.2A83.A.2A42.2A$46.A2.A127.A2.A$47.2A129.2A$62.2A129.2A$
62.2A129.2A5$70.A3.2A125.A3.2A$69.A.A3.A124.A.A3.A$65.2A.A.A3.A21.A
99.2A.A.A3.A$65.2A.A4.A20.3A99.2A.A4.A21.2A$69.5A.A17.A106.5A.A19.A$
64.A.3A5.2A17.2A100.A.3A5.2A17.A.A$64.2A3.4A122.2A3.4A20.2A$54.2A11.
2A2.A.3A109.2A11.2A2.A.3A$54.2A12.A6.A109.2A12.A6.A$67.A130.A$67.2A
129.2A3$220.2A$88.2A130.2A$88.A2.A$89.2A.A$92.A$87.A4.A.2A$85.3A3.2A.
2A$84.A$84.2A!

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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by Kazyan » January 26th, 2016, 4:30 pm

So, here's something happily frustrating:

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x = 17, y = 22, rule = LifeHistory
9.2A$8.B2A2B$9.4B$7.6B.BA$7.7BA.A$5.10BA$4.6B2AB.B$2.8B2A$.3D9B$BD4B
2C5B$.3D3B2C4B$3.4BC6B$4.10B$5.8B2A$5.6B.B2A$4.7B2.B$4.6B$4.6B$5.B.B$
6.3B$5.B2AB$6.2A!
This is the exact opposite displacement as the P30BR I found a few days ago. Those two conduits don't fit with each other, unfortunately:

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x = 29, y = 28, rule = LifeHistory
A$3A$3.A$2.2A2$10.2A$10.2A2$6.A$5.A.A$4.A2.A$5.2A$12.3C11.2A$12.C.C
10.A2.A$3.2A7.C.C11.2A$4.A$.3A$.A11.D$11.3D$12.D$21.2A$15.2A4.2A$15.
2A2$8.2A$8.2A8.A$17.A.A$18.A!
However, there may be a way to tame this potential p87 into working if the leftwards plume from the R can create a block so as to replace the lower left eater required by the Pi on each cycle.
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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by praosylen » January 28th, 2016, 10:52 pm

It appears as if the block/hat/table eater 2 variant also has some unique catalyses:

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x = 21, y = 14, rule = LifeHistory
8.A10.2A$5.2A$6.A11.A$3.A2.A10.A2.A$3.A.A11.A.A$4.A13.A2$A2.C.2C7.A2.
C.2C$4A.2C7.4A.2C2$2.2A.2A9.2A.2A$3.A.A11.A.A$3.A.A11.A.A$4.A13.A!
Edit: Another eater 2 variant with a unique catalysis:

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x = 9, y = 15, rule = LifeHistory
7.A$7.2A$8.A$6.A$2.A2.A$3.A.A$4.A$2A$A2.C.2C$.3A.2C2$.3A.2A$A2.A.A$2A
5.A$6.2A!
Edit: Yet another stabilization of baker's dozen:

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x = 15, y = 21, rule = B3/S23
7bo$6bobo$6bobo$5b2ob2o$12bo$5b2ob5o$5b2obo$11b2o$7bo4bo$6bobo3bobo$2o
3bo2bo4b2o$obo3b2o$2bo$2b2o$6bob2o$2b5ob2o$2bo$5b2ob2o$6bobo$6bobo$7bo
!
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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by muzik » February 8th, 2016, 12:39 pm

House is a replicator!


Here is generation 30:

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x = 25, y = 17, rule = 23/3
11b3o$10bo3bo$10b2ob2o3$3bo17bo$b3o3b2o7b2o3b3o$o4bo2bo7bo2bo4bo$o3bo
15bo3bo$o5b4o5b4o5bo$b2o4b2o7b2o4b2o$3b3o13b3o$4b2o13b2o$5bo3bo5bo3bo
2$6bo2bo5bo2bo$7bobo5bobo!

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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by dvgrn » February 8th, 2016, 12:57 pm

muzik wrote:House is a replicator!
Well, a messy propagator, anyway. That's been old news for a while, probably since 1970. For example:

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#C pi-heptomino conduits: Dean Hickerson, 17 February 1997
#C Herschel-to-pi stage by Paul Callahan (part of Fx176)
x = 151, y = 75, rule = B3/S23
124bo3bo$123boo3boo6$104boo6boo25boo6boo$103bobbo4bobbo23bobbo4bobbo$
102b6obb6o21b6obb6o$103bobbo4bobbo23bobbo4bobbo$104boo6boo25boo6boo6$
107b4o$106b6o$105b8o$104boo6boo$105b8o$35bo17bo17bo17bo16b6o$34bobo15b
obo15bobo15bobo16b4o$135b3o$134bo3bo$34b3o15b3o15b3o15b3o43bo3bo$34b3o
15b3o15b3o15b3o44b3o$35bo17bo17bo17bo$95boo$95boo$35bo17bo17bo17bo$34b
3o15b3o15b3o15b3o44b3o$34b3o15b3o15b3o15b3o43bo3bo$134bo3bo$135b3o$34b
obo15bobo15bobo15bobo$11boo8boo12bo17bo17bo17bo$12bo8boo$12bobo$13boo
$$126boo$7boo117boo$8bo$8bobo$9boo$$116bobboboobobbo$116b4oboob4o$116b
obboboobobbo3$9bo$9bobo$9b3o$11bo$$21boo$21boobboo8bo17bo17bo17bo$25bo
bo6bobo15bobo15bobo15bobo17boo$bboo23bo80boo$3bo23boo$3o31b3o15b3o15b
3o15b3o$o33b3o15b3o15b3o15b3o$35bo17bo17bo17bo3$35bo17bo17bo17bo$34b3o
15b3o15b3o15b3o$34b3o15b3o15b3o15b3o3$34bobo15bobo15bobo15bobo$35bo17b
o17bo17bo!
-- Hey, is there a way to get a signal out of one of these periodic tracks yet? I haven't checked the Elementary Conduits Collection recently.

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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by drc » February 8th, 2016, 7:50 pm

What is this?:

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x = 49, y = 141, rule = B3/S23
5b3o11b3o$4bo3bo9bo3bo$3b2o4bo7bo4b2o$2bobob2ob2o5b2ob2obobo$b2obo4bob
2ob2obo4bob2o$o4bo3bo2bobo2bo3bo4bo$12bobo$2o7b2obobob2o7b2o$12bobo$6b
3o9b3o$6bo9bo3bo$11b3o4bobo$5b2o4bo2bo$11bo$11bo$11bo$11bo$12bo$19b2o$
15b4ob2o$15b6o$16b4o2$26b4o$25bo3bo$29bo$21b2o2bo2bo$21b3o$21b2o2bo2bo
$29bo$25bo3bo$26b4o3$20b2o$16b4ob2o$16b6o$17b4o$25bo15bo$26bo13bo$26bo
13bo$26bo13bo$23bo2bo13bo2bo$24b3o13b3o55$23bo19bo$24bo17bo$24bo17bo$
24bo17bo$21bo2bo17bo2bo$22b3o17b3o7$13b2o$12b3o$12b3o$12b2obo$13b3o$
14bo8$20bo25bo$21bo23bo$21bo23bo$21bo23bo$21bo23bo$18bo2bo23bo2bo$19b
3o23b3o4$29b2o5b2o$22bobo3b2obo3bob2o3bobo$21bo5bo2bo5bo2bo5bo$21bo3bo
15bo3bo$21bo3bo15bo3bo$21bo7bob2ob2obo7bo$21bo2bo4b3o3b3o4bo2bo$21b3o
6bo5bo6b3o!
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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by dvgrn » February 8th, 2016, 10:53 pm

drc wrote:What is this?...
(observe for 1million gens)
Which phenomenon do you want a name for? Looks like the rightmost parasite gets killed off around T=1000000, I'm not sure why -- something gets in the way of either the glider heading NE or the glider bouncing back SW. Must be a pretty rare event, whatever it is.

"Parasite" is from Mitchell Riley, who saw these things growing on a p8 backrake in August 2009, I think. It might have been Bill Gosper who called them "parasites". See this old blog post, or the following sample pattern (from the blog post) with a couple of parasites breeding, or something:

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x = 30, y = 45, rule = B3/S23
6bo13bo$5b3o11b3o$3b2ob3o9b3ob2o$4bo2bob2o5b2obo2bo$b2obo4bobo3bobo4bo
b2o$b2obobo2bob2ob2obo2bobob2o$bo8bobobobo8bo$2o7b2obobob2o7b2o$12bobo
$7b3obo3bob3o$6b2o11b2o$6bo5bo4b2o2bo$5b2o4b3o3b2o2bo$11bob2o3b3o$12b
3o4bo$12b3o$12b3o$12b2o2$19bobo$20b2o$15b2o3bo$8b2o6b2o$7b2o6bo$9bo3$
17b2o$10bo6b3o$9b3obo3b3o$8b2obo5b3o$8b2o6bob2o$8b2o6b3o4b2o$8b2ob2o4b
o5bo$9b2o11b2o$10b3obo3bob3o$15bobo$3b2o7b2obobob2o7b2o$4bo8bobobobo8b
o$4b2obobo2bob2ob2obo2bobob2o$4b2obo4bobo3bobo4bob2o$7bo2bob2o5b2obo2b
o$6b2ob3o9b3ob2o$8b3o11b3o$9bo13bo!

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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by drc » February 8th, 2016, 11:05 pm

dvgrn wrote:
drc wrote:What is this?...
(observe for 1million gens)
Which phenomenon do you want a name for? Looks like the rightmost parasite gets killed off around T=1000000, I'm not sure why -- something gets in the way of either the glider heading NE or the glider bouncing back SW. Must be a pretty rare event, whatever it is.

"Parasite" is from Mitchell Riley, who saw these things growing on a p8 backrake in August 2009, I think. It might have been Bill Gosper who called them "parasites". See this old blog post, or the following sample pattern (from the blog post) with a couple of parasites breeding, or something:

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x = 30, y = 45, rule = B3/S23
6bo13bo$5b3o11b3o$3b2ob3o9b3ob2o$4bo2bob2o5b2obo2bo$b2obo4bobo3bobo4bo
b2o$b2obobo2bob2ob2obo2bobob2o$bo8bobobobo8bo$2o7b2obobob2o7b2o$12bobo
$7b3obo3bob3o$6b2o11b2o$6bo5bo4b2o2bo$5b2o4b3o3b2o2bo$11bob2o3b3o$12b
3o4bo$12b3o$12b3o$12b2o2$19bobo$20b2o$15b2o3bo$8b2o6b2o$7b2o6bo$9bo3$
17b2o$10bo6b3o$9b3obo3b3o$8b2obo5b3o$8b2o6bob2o$8b2o6b3o4b2o$8b2ob2o4b
o5bo$9b2o11b2o$10b3obo3bob3o$15bobo$3b2o7b2obobob2o7b2o$4bo8bobobobo8b
o$4b2obobo2bob2ob2obo2bobob2o$4b2obo4bobo3bobo4bob2o$7bo2bob2o5b2obo2b
o$6b2ob3o9b3ob2o$8b3o11b3o$9bo13bo!
I meant the parasites. Damn. 5 years late

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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by Kazyan » February 9th, 2016, 7:25 am

This reaction isn't immediately useful, but I'm sure someone can do something with it:

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x = 11, y = 12, rule = B3/S23
5bo$4bobo$5bo2$bo$obo3b2o$bo3bobo$5b2o$9bo$8bobo$8bobo$9b2o!
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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by Xenonquark » February 13th, 2016, 7:53 pm

Kazyan wrote:This reaction isn't immediately useful, but I'm sure someone can do something with it:

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x = 11, y = 12, rule = B3/S23
5bo$4bobo$5bo2$bo$obo3b2o$bo3bobo$5b2o$9bo$8bobo$8bobo$9b2o!
The product of this reaction looks somewhat like a face!

EDIT: Also here's a soup that generates a pentadecathlon and a spaceship:

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#CXRLE Pos=0,0
x = 16, y = 16, rule = B3/S23
2o2b3o3bob2obo$5o10bo$bobobob7o$2o2b3ob2obob2o$2bobo6bo$bo3bobo2bobob
2o$2obo2bo2bo2bobo$o3bo2bo2bo$b4o3b6obo$3bobob3o2bob2o$4bobo2b2o3bo$ob
2obo2bobobo2bo$o4b3ob2o4bo$o3b3o5bobo$o3bob2obo$3b3o2b2ob3o!
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Post by Saka » February 16th, 2016, 4:22 am

Xenonquark wrote:
EDIT: Also here's a soup that generates a pentadecathlon and a spaceship:

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#CXRLE Pos=0,0
x = 16, y = 16, rule = B3/S23
2o2b3o3bob2obo$5o10bo$bobobob7o$2o2b3ob2obob2o$2bobo6bo$bo3bobo2bobob
2o$2obo2bo2bo2bobo$o3bo2bo2bo$b4o3b6obo$3bobob3o2bob2o$4bobo2b2o3bo$ob
2obo2bobobo2bo$o4b3ob2o4bo$o3b3o5bobo$o3bob2obo$3b3o2b2ob3o!
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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by muzik » February 16th, 2016, 6:41 am

Now THIS is a sexy reaction, unfortunately I can't extend this past 3 blocks since the smoke doesn't hit itself and die.

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x = 45, y = 15, rule = B3/S23
2$2o3b2o3b2o7bo12b2o3b2o3b2o$2o3b2o3b2o6b3o2b3o6b2o3b2o3b2o$24bo!

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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by muzik » February 16th, 2016, 6:57 am

Not sure about this, maybe this could be used to make a spaceship? Or, at the very least, a shuttle oscillator?

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x = 16, y = 18, rule = B3/S23
$6b2ob2o$6b2ob2o4$5bo5bo$3b2ob2ob2ob2o$3b2ob2ob2ob2o2$2b2ob2o3b2ob2o$
2b2ob2o3b2ob2o$4bo7bo!

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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by NoLongerBreathedIn » February 16th, 2016, 8:20 pm

Saka: When someone says ‘spaceship’ they never mean ‘glider’ if they aren't being very rigorous. Gliders are way too common.

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Post by Saka » February 17th, 2016, 4:12 am

NoLongerBreathedIn wrote:Saka: When someone says ‘spaceship’ they never mean ‘glider’ if they aren't being very rigorous. Gliders are way too common.
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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by muzik » February 17th, 2016, 4:23 am

Anyone else tried to fly a glider on space?


Or a caterpillar, spider, or crab, on that matter?

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