Thread for your unsure discoveries
Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries
Huh... Didn't expect anything based on that one! You might want to see Mike's other optimizations.
 praosylen
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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries
I just found a Spartan catalyst that may or may not be considered transparent, depending on one's definition of "transparent":
It is, in some ways, a counterpart to Bellman One, in that it attacks the preTL from the opposite side. Unfortunately, it cannot catalyze a straightup preTL, instead requiring another pattern to perturb the preTL as well. It may or may not be useful.
Edit: A variant:
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x = 8, y = 13, rule = B3/S23
b2o$b2o3$2o4bo$2o3bobo$6bo$bo$obo2$3o2$2bo!
Edit: A variant:
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x = 9, y = 13, rule = B3/S23
b2o$b2o$7b2o$6bobo$2o4bo$2o3b2o2$bo$obo2$3o2$o!
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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries
Fairly robust 3c/14 movement:
It reappears exactly as it starts, but it gets destroyed by some extra blinkers it makes. It doesnt need a blinker to push it, but the blinker has the nice advantage that it reappears exactly where it needs to be. The form I discovered it in leads to the above state by pushing the prepulsar with some other reaction that didn't involve a blinker.
I don't imagine that this speed will be made into a spaceship any time soon, but this engine seems like it would be a good start for such a search.
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x = 15, y = 7, rule = LifeHistory
3.3C3.3C$2.C3.C.C3.C$2.C3.C.C3.C$2.C3.C.C3.C$C2.3C3.3C2.C$C13.C$C13.C
!
I don't imagine that this speed will be made into a spaceship any time soon, but this engine seems like it would be a good start for such a search.
Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries
Code: Select all
x = 8, y = 6, rule = B3/S23
b2o$ob2o$2bo$5bo$4b2obo$5b2o!
 praosylen
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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries
A transparent loaf catalyst that I found looking through old catalyst test results:
It has a multitude of variations. May or may not be useful.
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x = 19, y = 16, rule = B3/S23
17b2o$17bo$15bobo$15b2o2$7b2o$6bo2bo$7bobo$8bo$bo$2o3b3o$5bobo$4bo3bo$
8bo$8bo$7bo!
former username: A for Awesome
praosylen#5847 (Discord)
The only decision I made was made
of flowers, to jump universes to one of springtime in
a land of former winter, where no invisible walls stood,
or could stand for more than a few hours at most...
praosylen#5847 (Discord)
The only decision I made was made
of flowers, to jump universes to one of springtime in
a land of former winter, where no invisible walls stood,
or could stand for more than a few hours at most...
 gmc_nxtman
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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries
Unfortunately, the corresponding wick is in jslife's "w00010.lif":drc wrote:Possible P5/P10 pi flipperCode: Select all
x = 8, y = 6, rule = B3/S23 b2o$ob2o$2bo$5bo$4b2obo$5b2o!
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x = 389, y = 182, rule = LifeHistory
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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries
Here are some of the results digged up from the archives that may possibly useful / suggest a possibly useful search area.
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x = 92, y = 34, rule = B3/S23
84b3o$84b3o$85bo$85bo$85bo$84bobo3$84bobo$85bo$85bo$85bo$84b3o$84b3o4$
2bo$2ob2o75b2o8b2o$o79b2o7b2o$o3bo36bo11b2o6b2o27bo$b3o37b3o8bo2bo4bo
2bo$44bo7bo2bo4bo2bo$43b2o7bo2bo4bo2bo$6b2o45b2o6b2o$5bo2bo$5bo2bo$6b
2o3$8bo31b2o4bo$8bo31b2o3b3o$8bo$46bo!
Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries
This looks familiar, but I don't see an "HR48B" in the November 11th conduit collection. Is it known?
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x = 27, y = 19, rule = LifeHistory
6.A$6.3A$9.A10.2A$8.2A3.B5.B2AB.2A$8.8B4.3B.2A$10.8B.6B$10.13B$9.14B.
2B$7.18B2A$5.18B.B2A$5.2BC15B2.B$4.3BCBC4B.7B$5.2B3C4B2.6B$4.5BC4B2.
6B$3.10B4.2D2BD$2.4B12.3D$.4B14.D$4B$.2B!
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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries
Pretty sure that one's new. Some of Guam's mechanisms look kind of like it, but those are pi inputs feeding into a modified R64 turn.Kazyan wrote:This looks familiar, but I don't see an "HR48B" in the November 11th conduit collection. Is it known?
I suppose in the 1990's someone might have quietly discarded it because they didn't know about our new reliable salvageaBoutput BBx187H yet. Or there's a BtoG that can connect to it, too  BNW39T172.
Are there other Binput circuits that fit? I wish there were more  it's such a nice Spartan conduit. BRx46B can technically be attached, but then I don't know what to do with that output B.
Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries
Very nice discovery! (Oh, and this too!)Kazyan wrote:This looks familiar, but I don't see an "HR48B" in the November 11th conduit collection. Is it known?
Did you notice it makes a perfect period doubler? Are there any smaller known colorpreserving semiSnarks than these?
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x = 228, y = 70, rule = LifeHistory
19.A130.A$17.3A128.3A$16.A130.A$16.2A129.2A$30.A130.A$28.3A128.3A$27.
A130.A$27.2A129.2A3$24.2A129.2A$6.A11.A4.A.A111.A11.A4.A.A$5.A2.A7.A
2.A3.3A2.A.A105.A2.A7.A2.A3.3A2.A.A$6.A.3A3.2A3.A4.A5.A106.A.3A3.2A3.
A4.A5.A$6.A.2A.2A.2A3.A6.A3.A106.A.2A.2A.2A3.A6.A3.A$10.A2.3A10.A2.A
111.A2.3A10.A2.A$2.2A7.A.2A2.2A8.A105.2A7.A.2A2.2A8.A$.A.A7.A.2A.A2.A
112.A.A7.A.2A.A2.A$.A10.A3.A3.A111.A10.A3.A3.A$2A15.A.A111.2A15.A.A$
18.A130.A3$17.2A129.2A$17.2A129.2A3$6.2A129.2A$5.A.A128.A.A$5.A130.A$
4.2A66.A62.2A66.A$10.2A52.2A6.3A66.2A60.3A$11.A45.2A6.A9.A10.2A54.A
45.2A16.A10.2A$8.3A46.A7.A.A6.2A10.2A2.2A47.3A46.A16.2A10.2A2.2A$8.A
50.A6.2A22.2A47.A50.A30.2A$58.2A129.2A2$44.2A129.2A$45.A45.2A83.A45.
2A$45.A.2A42.2A83.A.2A42.2A$46.A2.A127.A2.A$47.2A129.2A$62.2A129.2A$
62.2A129.2A5$70.A3.2A125.A3.2A$69.A.A3.A124.A.A3.A$65.2A.A.A3.A21.A
99.2A.A.A3.A$65.2A.A4.A20.3A99.2A.A4.A21.2A$69.5A.A17.A106.5A.A19.A$
64.A.3A5.2A17.2A100.A.3A5.2A17.A.A$64.2A3.4A122.2A3.4A20.2A$54.2A11.
2A2.A.3A109.2A11.2A2.A.3A$54.2A12.A6.A109.2A12.A6.A$67.A130.A$67.2A
129.2A3$220.2A$88.2A130.2A$88.A2.A$89.2A.A$92.A$87.A4.A.2A$85.3A3.2A.
2A$84.A$84.2A!
Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries
So, here's something happily frustrating:
This is the exact opposite displacement as the P30BR I found a few days ago. Those two conduits don't fit with each other, unfortunately:
However, there may be a way to tame this potential p87 into working if the leftwards plume from the R can create a block so as to replace the lower left eater required by the Pi on each cycle.
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x = 17, y = 22, rule = LifeHistory
9.2A$8.B2A2B$9.4B$7.6B.BA$7.7BA.A$5.10BA$4.6B2AB.B$2.8B2A$.3D9B$BD4B
2C5B$.3D3B2C4B$3.4BC6B$4.10B$5.8B2A$5.6B.B2A$4.7B2.B$4.6B$4.6B$5.B.B$
6.3B$5.B2AB$6.2A!
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x = 29, y = 28, rule = LifeHistory
A$3A$3.A$2.2A2$10.2A$10.2A2$6.A$5.A.A$4.A2.A$5.2A$12.3C11.2A$12.C.C
10.A2.A$3.2A7.C.C11.2A$4.A$.3A$.A11.D$11.3D$12.D$21.2A$15.2A4.2A$15.
2A2$8.2A$8.2A8.A$17.A.A$18.A!
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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries
It appears as if the block/hat/table eater 2 variant also has some unique catalyses:
Edit: Another eater 2 variant with a unique catalysis:
Edit: Yet another stabilization of baker's dozen:
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x = 21, y = 14, rule = LifeHistory
8.A10.2A$5.2A$6.A11.A$3.A2.A10.A2.A$3.A.A11.A.A$4.A13.A2$A2.C.2C7.A2.
C.2C$4A.2C7.4A.2C2$2.2A.2A9.2A.2A$3.A.A11.A.A$3.A.A11.A.A$4.A13.A!
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x = 9, y = 15, rule = LifeHistory
7.A$7.2A$8.A$6.A$2.A2.A$3.A.A$4.A$2A$A2.C.2C$.3A.2C2$.3A.2A$A2.A.A$2A
5.A$6.2A!
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x = 15, y = 21, rule = B3/S23
7bo$6bobo$6bobo$5b2ob2o$12bo$5b2ob5o$5b2obo$11b2o$7bo4bo$6bobo3bobo$2o
3bo2bo4b2o$obo3b2o$2bo$2b2o$6bob2o$2b5ob2o$2bo$5b2ob2o$6bobo$6bobo$7bo
!
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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries
House is a replicator!
Here is generation 30:
Here is generation 30:
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x = 25, y = 17, rule = 23/3
11b3o$10bo3bo$10b2ob2o3$3bo17bo$b3o3b2o7b2o3b3o$o4bo2bo7bo2bo4bo$o3bo
15bo3bo$o5b4o5b4o5bo$b2o4b2o7b2o4b2o$3b3o13b3o$4b2o13b2o$5bo3bo5bo3bo
2$6bo2bo5bo2bo$7bobo5bobo!
Help wanted: How can we accurately notate any 1D replicator?
Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries
Well, a messy propagator, anyway. That's been old news for a while, probably since 1970. For example:muzik wrote:House is a replicator!
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#C piheptomino conduits: Dean Hickerson, 17 February 1997
#C Herscheltopi stage by Paul Callahan (part of Fx176)
x = 151, y = 75, rule = B3/S23
124bo3bo$123boo3boo6$104boo6boo25boo6boo$103bobbo4bobbo23bobbo4bobbo$
102b6obb6o21b6obb6o$103bobbo4bobbo23bobbo4bobbo$104boo6boo25boo6boo6$
107b4o$106b6o$105b8o$104boo6boo$105b8o$35bo17bo17bo17bo16b6o$34bobo15b
obo15bobo15bobo16b4o$135b3o$134bo3bo$34b3o15b3o15b3o15b3o43bo3bo$34b3o
15b3o15b3o15b3o44b3o$35bo17bo17bo17bo$95boo$95boo$35bo17bo17bo17bo$34b
3o15b3o15b3o15b3o44b3o$34b3o15b3o15b3o15b3o43bo3bo$134bo3bo$135b3o$34b
obo15bobo15bobo15bobo$11boo8boo12bo17bo17bo17bo$12bo8boo$12bobo$13boo
$$126boo$7boo117boo$8bo$8bobo$9boo$$116bobboboobobbo$116b4oboob4o$116b
obboboobobbo3$9bo$9bobo$9b3o$11bo$$21boo$21boobboo8bo17bo17bo17bo$25bo
bo6bobo15bobo15bobo15bobo17boo$bboo23bo80boo$3bo23boo$3o31b3o15b3o15b
3o15b3o$o33b3o15b3o15b3o15b3o$35bo17bo17bo17bo3$35bo17bo17bo17bo$34b3o
15b3o15b3o15b3o$34b3o15b3o15b3o15b3o3$34bobo15bobo15bobo15bobo$35bo17b
o17bo17bo!
Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries
What is this?:
(observe for 1million gens)
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x = 49, y = 141, rule = B3/S23
5b3o11b3o$4bo3bo9bo3bo$3b2o4bo7bo4b2o$2bobob2ob2o5b2ob2obobo$b2obo4bob
2ob2obo4bob2o$o4bo3bo2bobo2bo3bo4bo$12bobo$2o7b2obobob2o7b2o$12bobo$6b
3o9b3o$6bo9bo3bo$11b3o4bobo$5b2o4bo2bo$11bo$11bo$11bo$11bo$12bo$19b2o$
15b4ob2o$15b6o$16b4o2$26b4o$25bo3bo$29bo$21b2o2bo2bo$21b3o$21b2o2bo2bo
$29bo$25bo3bo$26b4o3$20b2o$16b4ob2o$16b6o$17b4o$25bo15bo$26bo13bo$26bo
13bo$26bo13bo$23bo2bo13bo2bo$24b3o13b3o55$23bo19bo$24bo17bo$24bo17bo$
24bo17bo$21bo2bo17bo2bo$22b3o17b3o7$13b2o$12b3o$12b3o$12b2obo$13b3o$
14bo8$20bo25bo$21bo23bo$21bo23bo$21bo23bo$21bo23bo$18bo2bo23bo2bo$19b
3o23b3o4$29b2o5b2o$22bobo3b2obo3bob2o3bobo$21bo5bo2bo5bo2bo5bo$21bo3bo
15bo3bo$21bo3bo15bo3bo$21bo7bob2ob2obo7bo$21bo2bo4b3o3b3o4bo2bo$21b3o
6bo5bo6b3o!
Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries
Which phenomenon do you want a name for? Looks like the rightmost parasite gets killed off around T=1000000, I'm not sure why  something gets in the way of either the glider heading NE or the glider bouncing back SW. Must be a pretty rare event, whatever it is.drc wrote:What is this?...
(observe for 1million gens)
"Parasite" is from Mitchell Riley, who saw these things growing on a p8 backrake in August 2009, I think. It might have been Bill Gosper who called them "parasites". See this old blog post, or the following sample pattern (from the blog post) with a couple of parasites breeding, or something:
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x = 30, y = 45, rule = B3/S23
6bo13bo$5b3o11b3o$3b2ob3o9b3ob2o$4bo2bob2o5b2obo2bo$b2obo4bobo3bobo4bo
b2o$b2obobo2bob2ob2obo2bobob2o$bo8bobobobo8bo$2o7b2obobob2o7b2o$12bobo
$7b3obo3bob3o$6b2o11b2o$6bo5bo4b2o2bo$5b2o4b3o3b2o2bo$11bob2o3b3o$12b
3o4bo$12b3o$12b3o$12b2o2$19bobo$20b2o$15b2o3bo$8b2o6b2o$7b2o6bo$9bo3$
17b2o$10bo6b3o$9b3obo3b3o$8b2obo5b3o$8b2o6bob2o$8b2o6b3o4b2o$8b2ob2o4b
o5bo$9b2o11b2o$10b3obo3bob3o$15bobo$3b2o7b2obobob2o7b2o$4bo8bobobobo8b
o$4b2obobo2bob2ob2obo2bobob2o$4b2obo4bobo3bobo4bob2o$7bo2bob2o5b2obo2b
o$6b2ob3o9b3ob2o$8b3o11b3o$9bo13bo!
Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries
I meant the parasites. Damn. 5 years latedvgrn wrote:Which phenomenon do you want a name for? Looks like the rightmost parasite gets killed off around T=1000000, I'm not sure why  something gets in the way of either the glider heading NE or the glider bouncing back SW. Must be a pretty rare event, whatever it is.drc wrote:What is this?...
(observe for 1million gens)
"Parasite" is from Mitchell Riley, who saw these things growing on a p8 backrake in August 2009, I think. It might have been Bill Gosper who called them "parasites". See this old blog post, or the following sample pattern (from the blog post) with a couple of parasites breeding, or something:
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x = 30, y = 45, rule = B3/S23 6bo13bo$5b3o11b3o$3b2ob3o9b3ob2o$4bo2bob2o5b2obo2bo$b2obo4bobo3bobo4bo b2o$b2obobo2bob2ob2obo2bobob2o$bo8bobobobo8bo$2o7b2obobob2o7b2o$12bobo $7b3obo3bob3o$6b2o11b2o$6bo5bo4b2o2bo$5b2o4b3o3b2o2bo$11bob2o3b3o$12b 3o4bo$12b3o$12b3o$12b2o2$19bobo$20b2o$15b2o3bo$8b2o6b2o$7b2o6bo$9bo3$ 17b2o$10bo6b3o$9b3obo3b3o$8b2obo5b3o$8b2o6bob2o$8b2o6b3o4b2o$8b2ob2o4b o5bo$9b2o11b2o$10b3obo3bob3o$15bobo$3b2o7b2obobob2o7b2o$4bo8bobobobo8b o$4b2obobo2bob2ob2obo2bobob2o$4b2obo4bobo3bobo4bob2o$7bo2bob2o5b2obo2b o$6b2ob3o9b3ob2o$8b3o11b3o$9bo13bo!
Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries
This reaction isn't immediately useful, but I'm sure someone can do something with it:
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x = 11, y = 12, rule = B3/S23
5bo$4bobo$5bo2$bo$obo3b2o$bo3bobo$5b2o$9bo$8bobo$8bobo$9b2o!
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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries
The product of this reaction looks somewhat like a face!Kazyan wrote:This reaction isn't immediately useful, but I'm sure someone can do something with it:
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x = 11, y = 12, rule = B3/S23 5bo$4bobo$5bo2$bo$obo3b2o$bo3bobo$5b2o$9bo$8bobo$8bobo$9b2o!
EDIT: Also here's a soup that generates a pentadecathlon and a spaceship:
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#CXRLE Pos=0,0
x = 16, y = 16, rule = B3/S23
2o2b3o3bob2obo$5o10bo$bobobob7o$2o2b3ob2obob2o$2bobo6bo$bo3bobo2bobob
2o$2obo2bo2bo2bobo$o3bo2bo2bo$b4o3b6obo$3bobob3o2bob2o$4bobo2b2o3bo$ob
2obo2bobobo2bo$o4b3ob2o4bo$o3b3o5bobo$o3bob2obo$3b3o2b2ob3o!
Twelve plus one is equal to eleven plus two, anagram or not.
Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries
Yes... a lot of spaceships... count them, it's not just one...Xenonquark wrote:
EDIT: Also here's a soup that generates a pentadecathlon and a spaceship:Code: Select all
#CXRLE Pos=0,0 x = 16, y = 16, rule = B3/S23 2o2b3o3bob2obo$5o10bo$bobobob7o$2o2b3ob2obob2o$2bobo6bo$bo3bobo2bobob 2o$2obo2bo2bo2bobo$o3bo2bo2bo$b4o3b6obo$3bobob3o2bob2o$4bobo2b2o3bo$ob 2obo2bobobo2bo$o4b3ob2o4bo$o3b3o5bobo$o3bob2obo$3b3o2b2ob3o!
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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries
Now THIS is a sexy reaction, unfortunately I can't extend this past 3 blocks since the smoke doesn't hit itself and die.
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x = 45, y = 15, rule = B3/S23
2$2o3b2o3b2o7bo12b2o3b2o3b2o$2o3b2o3b2o6b3o2b3o6b2o3b2o3b2o$24bo!
Help wanted: How can we accurately notate any 1D replicator?
Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries
Not sure about this, maybe this could be used to make a spaceship? Or, at the very least, a shuttle oscillator?
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x = 16, y = 18, rule = B3/S23
$6b2ob2o$6b2ob2o4$5bo5bo$3b2ob2ob2ob2o$3b2ob2ob2ob2o2$2b2ob2o3b2ob2o$
2b2ob2o3b2ob2o$4bo7bo!
Help wanted: How can we accurately notate any 1D replicator?

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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries
Saka: When someone says ‘spaceship’ they never mean ‘glider’ if they aren't being very rigorous. Gliders are way too common.
Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries
*terminology joke, didn't really mean itNoLongerBreathedIn wrote:Saka: When someone says ‘spaceship’ they never mean ‘glider’ if they aren't being very rigorous. Gliders are way too common.
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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries
Anyone else tried to fly a glider on space?
Or a caterpillar, spider, or crab, on that matter?
Or a caterpillar, spider, or crab, on that matter?
Help wanted: How can we accurately notate any 1D replicator?