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x = 48, y = 19, rule = B3/S23
18bo28bo$19bo25b2o$17b3o26b2o9$29bo6bo$30bo3b2o$28b3o4b2o2$b4o18b4o$o
3bo17bo3bo$4bo21bo$o2bo18bo2bo!
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x = 48, y = 19, rule = B3/S23
18bo28bo$19bo25b2o$17b3o26b2o9$29bo6bo$30bo3b2o$28b3o4b2o2$b4o18b4o$o
3bo17bo3bo$4bo21bo$o2bo18bo2bo!
It also works with HWSS:2718281828 wrote:This side-shoot LWSS-to-MWSS mechanism is known, isn't it?Code: Select all
x = 48, y = 19, rule = B3/S23 18bo28bo$19bo25b2o$17b3o26b2o9$29bo6bo$30bo3b2o$28b3o4b2o2$b4o18b4o$o 3bo17bo3bo$4bo21bo$o2bo18bo2bo!
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x = 17, y = 9, rule = B3/S23
9bo6bo$10bo3b2o$8b3o4b2o2$b6o$o5bo$6bo$o4bo$2b2o!
Well it looks like a standard MWSS synthesis but with one glider replaced with an XWSS.danny wrote:It also works with HWSS:2718281828 wrote:This side-shoot LWSS-to-MWSS mechanism is known, isn't it?Code: Select all
x = 48, y = 19, rule = B3/S23 18bo28bo$19bo25b2o$17b3o26b2o9$29bo6bo$30bo3b2o$28b3o4b2o2$b4o18b4o$o 3bo17bo3bo$4bo21bo$o2bo18bo2bo!
Don't quite know if it's known.Code: Select all
x = 17, y = 9, rule = B3/S23 9bo6bo$10bo3b2o$8b3o4b2o2$b6o$o5bo$6bo$o4bo$2b2o!
You're right. I should have noticed that.BlinkerSpawn wrote:Well it looks like a standard MWSS synthesis but with one glider replaced with an XWSS.
The first glider collides with the input XWSS to make a preblock in essentially the same way two gliders do.
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x = 78, y = 121, rule = B3/S23
2$14bo$7b4o3bobo$6bo3bo3b2o$10bo35bobo$6bo2bo9b2o25b2o$19bobo25bo$19bo
2$46b4o$45bo3bo$49bo$45bo2bo$15b2o$14b2o30b3o$16bo31bo$8b4o35bo$7bo3bo
$11bo$7bo2bo$18b3o$18bo$19bo22$12bo6bo$13bo3b2o$11b3o4b2o2$6b4o$5bo3bo
$9bo$5bo2bo53b4o3bobo$61bo3bo3b2o$65bo4bo$61bo2bo4$10bo$9bo$9b3o57b3o$
69bo$70bo$7b4o$6bo3bo$10bo5b2o$6bo2bo5b2o$17bo8$14bo$7b4o3bobo$6bo3bo
3b2o$10bo$6bo2bo10bo$19b2o$19bobo6$7bobo$8b2o$8bo$13b3o$13bo$6b4o4bo$
5bo3bo$9bo$5bo2bo10$6bo$7b2o$6b2o4bobo$13b2o$13bo3$9b4o$8bo3bo$12bo$8b
o2bo!
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x = 26, y = 14, rule = B3/S23
12bo$13b2o$12b2o2$10b2o$9bobo$11bo$24bo$bo21b2o$b2o20bobo$obo3b2o$7b2o
5bo$6bo7b2o$13bobo!
That is 17.168 aka 17#101. The best synthesis I had listed for it took 8 gliders, so this is a definite improvement!gmc_nxtman wrote:Assuming this is known: ...
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x = 26, y = 19, rule = B3/S23
13bo$11bobo$12b2o8$10bo11bobo$10b2o11b2o$9bobo11bo2$23b3o$3o22bo$2bo3b
2o16bo$bo3bobo$7bo!
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x = 27, y = 26, rule = B3/S23
6bobo$7b2o$7bo10$13b2o$3b2o7b2o$4b2o2bo5bo$3bo3b2o$7bobo$2o$b2o$o2$24b
2o$24bobo$11b3o10bo$11bo$12bo!
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8b2o$8b2o$o$o$o$8b3o$8bo$9bo!
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b2o$b2o$o5bo$5b2o$2o3bo$bo!
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x = 81, y = 96, rule = LifeHistory
58.2A$58.2A3$59.2A17.2A$59.2A17.2A3$79.2A$79.2A2$57.A$56.A$56.3A4$27.
A$27.A.A$27.2A21$3.2A$3.2A2.2A$7.2A18$7.2A$7.2A2.2A$11.2A11$2A$2A2.2A
$4.2A18$4.2A$4.2A2.2A$8.2A!
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x = 501, y = 381, rule = B3/S23
67bo$65b3o$58b2o4bo$58bo5b2o$49b2o5bobo$48b3o5b2o3b2o$36bo8bob2o11bobo $36bobo6bo2bo13bo$24b2o11bobo5bob2o$24b2o11bo2bo7b3o$37bobo9b2o$36bobo $36bo9bo$47b2o4b3o$46b2o7bo$54bo2$80b2o$16b2o62b2o$16b2o2$48b2o$7b2o 39b2o$8bo$8bobo$9b2o2$12b3o$12bo$13bo63b2o3b2o$9bo69b3o$9b3o66bo3bo$ 12bo66bobo$11b2o67bo$20b2o470b2o$20bobo45bobo421bo$20bo48b2o422bo$69bo 422b2o$81b3o$11b2o3b2o57bobo$11b2o3b2o10b2o45b2o4bobo$12b5o3bo7b2o37b 2o7bo3b5o$13bobo4b2o45b2o10b2o3b2o$19bobo57b2o3b2o$13b3o2$76bo$74bobo 406b2o$75b2o405bobo$16bo67b2o398bo$15bobo66bo$14bo3bo66b3o$15b3o69bo$ 13b2o3b2o14b2o$33b2o25bobo$35bo24b2o$61bo4$42bo4b2o$41b2o4b2o42bo$41bo bo45bobo$90b2o$15b2o$15b2o3$49b2o47bo$48b2o49bo$50bo9bo36b3o360b3o$58b obo401bo$46b2o9bobo401bo$46b3o7bo2bo11b2o$48b2obo5bobo11b2o$48bo2bo6bo bo$48b2obo8bo45bo$39b2o5b3o55bobo346b2o$38bobo5b2o57b2o248b2o95bobo$ 31b2o5bo155b2o159b2o97bo$32bo4b2o155b2o$29b3o$29bo3$254bo99b3o$253bobo 97b2ob2o$252bo3b2o6b2o87b2ob2o$238b2o12bo3bob2o4bobo86b5o$191b2obob2o 38bo2bo12bo3bob3o4b3o84b2o3b2o$223bobo9bo17bobob2o2bo4b3o6b2o$121bo69b o5bo25bo3bo7bo18bo4b2o4b3o7b2o$119bobo105bo7bo28bobo87b2o82b2o$120b2o 70b2ob2o16b2o8bo4bo7bo2bo24b2o87b5o79bobo$194bo18b2o12bo10b2o113bo85bo $223bo3bo23bo103b3o$223bobo8bobo14bobo103bo$235b2o14b2o102b2o$128bo 106bo119b2o$129bo$127b3o67bo232b3o$191b3o4b2o150b2o3b2o75bo$190bo3bo2b 2o44b3o104bobobobo74bo$241bo4bo104b5o5bobo$189bo5bo45bo4bo105b3o7b2o$ 189b2o3b2o45bo3bo107bo8bo$136bo$134bobo67b3o$135b2o$203bo$203bo165bo$ 203bo2bo42bobo118b2o$204b2o44b2o100b2o15b2o$250bo101b2o$358b2o$212bo 145bo56b3o$213b2o131bo9bobo58bo$196b3o13b2o35bo95bobo8b2o58bo$188b3o7b o50b2o84b2o6b2o3bo$187bo3bo5bo50bobo83bobo4b2obo3bo$186bo5bo131b2o7b3o 4b3obo3bo$187bo3bo132b2o6b3o4bo2b2obobo$188b3o142b3o4b2o4bo61b2o$188bo 2bo86bo55bobo70bobo$189b3o78b2o4b3o56b2o72bo$189b2obo77b2o3bo108bo$ 190bobo71bobo8b2o72bo35b2o$191bo73b2o80bobo34b2o$158bo106bo82b2o$159bo $157b3o28b2o3b2o32bo109b2o61b3o$188bobobobo33b2o39bo67bo64bo$189b5o33b 2o40b2o55bobo6bobo15b2o46bo$190b3o75bobo55bo2bo5b2o11b2o3bo37bobo$191b o67bo51bo6bo10b2o17b2o4b3o35b2o$258bobo49bobo5bo8bo3b2o23bo28b2o5bo7bo $166bo90bo3b2o8bo31b2o4bob2o6bo9b2o55b2o10b4o$164bobo79b2o9bo3b2o5b4o 31b2o3b2ob2o9b2o2bo2bo55bo11bobob2o$165b2o79b2o9bo3b2o4b4o38bob2o5b3o 2bo2bobo67bo2bob3o8b2o$258bobo6bo2bo28bo10bobo7b4o73bobob2o9b2o$226b2o 31bo7b4o20b2o4b3o11bo9b2o70b2o3b4o$191b2o34b2o39b4o6b2o11b2o3bo95bobo 5bo$191b2o33bo44bo6bobo15b2o94bo$280bo110b2o$280b2o43b2o2b2o$242bo81bo 3bobo$243b2o80bo4bo$219bo22b2o$219b2o105bo5b2o$218bobo105bo2bo2bo$276b 2o9b3o37b2o4b3o$181bo94bo2bo9bo45bo$179bobo86b5o7bo7bo5bo$180b2o85bo5b o6bo12b4o5bo$267bo3b2o7bo11b2obobo5b2o$211b2o55bo7bo2bo11b3obo2bo3b2o$ 212b2o62b2o14b2obob2o$211bo81b4ob3o$188bo105bo4bobo$189bo111bo$187b3o 111b2o5$355b2o$196bo159b2o$194bobo158bo$195b2o6b2o$201bo3bo$200bo5bo$ 199b2obo3bo8b2o$200bo5bo8b2o$196b2o3bo3bo$195bobo5b2o$195bo$194b2o7$ 332bo$333b2o$332b2o3$280b2o$281b2o$280bo14$187b2o$188bo$188bobo5b2o$ 189b2o3bo3bo$193bo5bo8b2o$192b2obo3bo8b2o$193bo5bo$194bo3bo$196b2o$ 362bo$363b2o$362b2o2$330bo$322b2o4b3o$322b2o3bo$180b3o111b2o31b2o$182b o111bo$181bo105bo4bobo$204bo81b4ob3o$205b2o62b2o14b2obob2o$204b2o55bo 7bo2bo11b3obo2bo3b2o24b2o$260bo3b2o7bo11b2obobo5b2o24b2o$173b2o85bo5bo 6bo12b4o5bo25bo$172bobo86b5o7bo7bo5bo22b2o$174bo94bo2bo9bo26bo3bo$269b 2o9b3o25bo5bo7bo$211bobo84b2o8bo3bob2o4bobo$212b2o84b2o8bo5bo3b2o$212b o22b2o72bo3bo4b2o31bo$236b2o72b2o6b2o17bo5b2o4b3o$235bo84bobo7b2o3bobo 5b2o3bo$273b2o47bo7bobo3b2o10b2o$273bo58bo65b2o$184b2o33bo44bo6bobo15b 2o41b2o65bo$184b2o34b2o39b4o6b2o11b2o3bo109bobo5bo$219b2o31bo7b4o20b2o 4b3o107b2o3b4o$251bobo6bo2bo28bo111bobob2o9b2o$158b2o79b2o9bo3b2o4b4o 139bo2bob3o8b2o$157bobo79b2o9bo3b2o5b4o75b2o50bo11bobob2o$159bo90bo3b 2o8bo57bo5b2o9bobo51b2o10b4o$251bobo66bo3bo3b3o10bo50b2o5bo7bo$184bo 41bobo23bo71bo5b2obo11bo53b2o$183b3o41b2o32bobo55bo5bo4bo2bo10b2o52bob o$182b5o33b2o5bo34b2o55b2o9b2obo9b2o3b2o58bo$181bobobobo33b2o39bo65b3o 11b3o64bo$150b3o28b2o3b2o32bo107b2o13b2o62b3o$152bo191b2o5b2o$151bo 106bo86bo5bobo$184bo73b2o93bo37b2o$183bobo71bobo8b2o83b2o37b2o$182b2ob o77b2o3bo122bo$182b3o78b2o4b3o144bo$181bo2bo86bo142bobo$181b3o231b2o$ 180bo3bo$179bo5bo198bo$180bo3bo5bo50bobo140b2o$181b3o7bo50b2o139bobo$ 189b3o13b2o35bo$206b2o$135b3o67bo$137bo$136bo106bo115b2o$197b2o44b2o 114b2o15b2o$196bo2bo42bobo132b2o$196bo179bo$196bo$128b2o$127bobo67b3o$ 129bo$182b2o3b2o45bo3bo121bo8bo$182bo5bo45bo4bo119b3o7b2o$234bo4bo118b 5o5bobo$183bo3bo2b2o44b3o118bobobobo74bo$184b3o4b2o164b2o3b2o75bo$120b 3o67bo246b3o$122bo$121bo106bo133b2o$228b2o14b2o116b2o$216bobo8bobo14bo bo117bo$216bo3bo23bo117b3o$187bo18b2o12bo10b2o127bo85bo$113b2o70b2ob2o 16b2o8bo4bo7bo2bo24b2o101b5o79bobo$112bobo105bo7bo28bobo101b2o82b2o$ 114bo69bo5bo25bo3bo7bo18bo4b2o4b3o7b2o$216bobo9bo17bobob2o2bo4b3o6b2o$ 184b2obob2o38bo2bo12bo3bob3o4b3o98b2o3b2o$231b2o12bo3bob2o4bobo100b5o$ 245bo3b2o6b2o101b2ob2o$246bobo111b2ob2o$247bo113b3o3$22bo$22b3o$25bo4b 2o155b2o$24b2o5bo155b2o173b2o97bo$31bobo5b2o321b2o95bobo$27b2o3b2o5b3o 418b2o$27bobo11b2obo8bo$27bo13bo2bo6bobo$41b2obo5bobo11b2o$39b3o7bo2bo 11b2o$39b2o9bobo415bo$51bobo415bo$43bo9bo36b3o374b3o$41b2o49bo$42b2o 47bo3$8b2o$8b2o466bo$83b2o389bobo$34bobo45bobo390b2o$34b2o4b2o42bo$35b o4b2o4$54bo$53b2o$53bobo$6b2o3b2o$8b3o69bo$7bo3bo66b3o$8bobo66bo$9bo 67b2o412bo$68b2o419bobo$67bobo420b2o$69bo2$6b3o$12bobo57b2o3b2o$6bobo 4b2o45b2o10b2o3b2o419bo$5b5o3bo7b2o37b2o7bo3b5o421bo$4b2o3b2o10b2o45b 2o4bobo420b3o$4b2o3b2o57bobo$74b3o$62bo436b2o$13bo48b2o436bo$13bobo45b obo435bo$13b2o484b2o$4b2o67bo$5bo66bobo$2b3o66bo3bo$2bo69b3o$6bo63b2o 3b2o$5bo$5b3o2$2b2o$bobo$bo$2o39b2o4bo$41b2o4b2o$46bobo$9b2o$9b2o62b2o $73b2o3$39b2o$40b2o$29bo9bo$29bobo$30bobo9b2o$17b2o11bo2bo7b3o$17b2o 11bobo5bob2o$29bobo6bo2bo13bo$29bo8bob2o11bobo$41b3o5b2o3b2o$42b2o5bob o$51bo5b2o$51b2o4bo$58b3o$60bo!
It seems to be a p30 crossover that works by splitting a p30 stream into 2 inverted p60 streams, then weaves them together, and then finally merging them using a NOR gate. Quite different from a triple XOR crossover.Hunting wrote:A "bridge".Code: Select all
viewer bridge
Thaaat's...not good. Why do people steal patterns?MikeP wrote:It looks remarkably similar to this: viewtopic.php?f=2&t=81&start=0#p275
I doubt it, their posting style is too different (particularly, PM 2Ring's posts are typically more intelligent than Hunting's, and I doubt they'd have "regressed" after eight years). Furthermore, I think someone returning after eight years of absence would announce it. This looks like a Gustavo-like attempt to grab attention on Hunting's part.danny wrote:EDIT: Although, it is possible Hunting is actually PM 2Ring. That member doesn't post anymore, so it is plausible.
Whaaaaaaaaaaaat?! I think I construct a new pattern with a NOR gate that I've just learned and I was "Steal" patterns?MikeP wrote:It looks remarkably similar to this: viewtopic.php?f=2&t=81&start=0#p275
danny wrote: Thaaat's...not good. Why do people steal patterns?
Hmm, the RLE's dimensions are the same.MikeP wrote:It looks remarkably similar to this: viewtopic.php?f=2&t=81&start=0#p275
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o3b2ob2obo3b2o2b2o$bo3b2obob3o3bo2bo$2bo2b3o5b3ob4o$3o3bo2bo2b3o3b3o$
4bo4bobo4bo$2o2b2o2b4obo2bo3bo$2ob4o3bo2bo2bo2bo$b2o3bobob2o$3bobobo5b
obobobo$3bobobob2o3bo2bobo!
There probably are several hundred DIFFERENT ways to make this crossover... and you happen to post the exact same one in the exact same phase as someone else, with the exact same "example glider loops"... and you happen to call it a "bridge" instead of the umptillion different words that can explain that transformation.Hunting wrote:Whaaaaaaaaaaaat?! I think I construct a new pattern with a NOR gate that I've just learned and I was "Steal" patterns?MikeP wrote:It looks remarkably similar to this: viewtopic.php?f=2&t=81&start=0#p275
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x = 17, y = 1, rule = B3/S23
4o2b4ob6o!
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x = 14, y = 17, rule = B3/S23
2bo$3bo$b3o2$9bo$9bo$9bo$o$o4b3o3b3o$o$9bo$9bo$9bo2$b3o$3bo$2bo!
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x = 9, y = 13, rule = B3/S23
bo$2bo$3o$7b2o$7b2o4$7b2o$7b2o$3o$2bo$bo!
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x = 31, y = 5, rule = B3/S23
o$2o4bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo$3o3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo$2o4bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo
3bo$o!
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x = 5, y = 9, rule = B3-jqr/S01c2-in3
3bo$4bo$o2bo$2o2$2o$o2bo$4bo$3bo!
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x = 7, y = 5, rule = B3/S2-i3-y4i
4b3o$6bo$o3b3o$2o$bo!
I think that it isHdjensofjfnen wrote:Messing around with 1xn soups gave me this:and this:Code: Select all
x = 17, y = 1, rule = B3/S23 4o2b4ob6o!
and this:Code: Select all
x = 14, y = 17, rule = B3/S23 2bo$3bo$b3o2$9bo$9bo$9bo$o$o4b3o3b3o$o$9bo$9bo$9bo2$b3o$3bo$2bo!
and this ludicrous failed fuse:Code: Select all
x = 9, y = 13, rule = B3/S23 bo$2bo$3o$7b2o$7b2o4$7b2o$7b2o$3o$2bo$bo!
Any of them new?Code: Select all
x = 31, y = 5, rule = B3/S23 o$2o4bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo$3o3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo$2o4bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo 3bo$o!
Okay Okay don't talk ABOUT me now77topaz wrote:Are we sure this isn't Gustavo? Aside from the fake discoveries (like Gustavo's "CIA transmissions" or whatever), their English is also similarly bad.
Yeah Yeah Yeah that's right and PM 2Ring is "Dead" in this forum nowRhombic wrote:There probably are several hundred DIFFERENT ways to make this crossover... and you happen to post the exact same one in the exact same phase as someone else, with the exact same "example glider loops"... and you happen to call it a "bridge" instead of the umptillion different words that can explain that transformation.Hunting wrote:Whaaaaaaaaaaaat?! I think I construct a new pattern with a NOR gate that I've just learned and I was "Steal" patterns?MikeP wrote:It looks remarkably similar to this: viewtopic.php?f=2&t=81&start=0#p275
Either randomness is quantised to a horrendously crazy degree or you could at least not pretend to be that surprised.
What are you even trying to say? That, because PM 2Ring is no longer active on this forum, it's okay to copy their patterns and paste them without attribution, as if you discovered them? Because that's nonsense.Hunting wrote:Yeah Yeah Yeah that's right and PM 2Ring is "Dead" in this forum now
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410b3o4$398b3o4$386b3o4$374b3o4$362b3o4$350b3o4$338b3o4$326b3o4$314b3o4$302b3o4$290b3o4$278b3o4$266b3o4$254b3o4$242b3o4$230b3o4$218b3o4$206b3o4$194b3o4$182b3o4$170b3o4$158b3o4$146b3o4$134b3o4$122b3o4$110b3o4$98b3o4$86b3o4$74b3o4$62b3o4$50b3o4$38b3o4$26b3o4$14b3o11$9b3o$7b2o2bo$2o5bo2b2o$2o5b3o!
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265b3o$279bo$279bo$279bo$
253b3o$267bo$267bo$267bo$241b3o$255bo$255bo$255bo$229b3o$243bo$243bo$
243bo$217b3o$231bo$231bo$231bo$205b3o$219bo$219bo$219bo$193b3o$207bo$
207bo$207bo$181b3o$195bo$195bo$195bo$169b3o$183bo$183bo$183bo$157b3o$
171bo$171bo$171bo$145b3o$159bo$159bo$159bo$133b3o$147bo$147bo$147bo$
121b3o$135bo$135bo$135bo$109b3o$123bo$123bo$123bo$97b3o$111bo$111bo$
111bo$85b3o$99bo$99bo$99bo$73b3o$87bo$87bo$87bo$61b3o$75bo$75bo$75bo$
49b3o$63bo$63bo$63bo$37b3o$51bo$51bo$51bo$25b3o$39bo$39bo$39bo$13b3o$
27bo$27bo$27bo2$15bo$15bo$15bo9$10bo$8b4o$7b2o3bo$2o4bo3b2o$2o5b4o$8bo!
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x = 81, y = 96, rule = LifeHistory
58.2A$58.2A3$59.2A17.2A$59.2A17.2A3$79.2A$79.2A2$57.A$56.A$56.3A4$27.
A$27.A.A$27.2A21$3.2A$3.2A2.2A$7.2A18$7.2A$7.2A2.2A$11.2A11$2A$2A2.2A
$4.2A18$4.2A$4.2A2.2A$8.2A!
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x = 14, y = 17, rule = LifeHistory
9.2D.2D$7.D2.2D.D$7.2D$12.2A$12.2A5$10.A$9.A.A$10.A$2A$.2A$2A$A9.2A$
10.2A!
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