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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries
Posted: January 12th, 2020, 8:52 pm
by Entity Valkyrie 2
Hdjensofjfnen wrote: ↑January 12th, 2020, 8:40 pm
Billabob wrote: ↑January 2nd, 2019, 7:22 am
Entity Valkyrie wrote:Is this the smallest
single strict still life that produces an LWSS when hit by a glider?
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x = 13, y = 9, rule = B3/S23
bo10bo$b3o6b2o$4bo6b2o$3bo2bo$3bob2o$2b2o$3bo$3o$o!
No,
Pentadecathlon.com lists this 14-cell still life:
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x = 10, y = 7, rule = B3/S23
b2o$o2bo$bo2bo$2b2obo$4bo2b2o$bobo3bobo$b2o4bo!
That has 15 cells. I've independently found another SL with 15 cells that fits the criteria:
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x = 11, y = 7, rule = B3/S23
bo6b2o$2bo4bo2bo$3o2bo2b2o$5b2obo$8bo$8bobo$9b2o!
That "14-cell" still life
is 14 cells.
Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries
Posted: January 12th, 2020, 9:32 pm
by hkoenig
About 15 years ago I finished up a survey of all collisions of a single Glider with all stable objects of up to 17 bits in size, and oscillators up to 16. Here's a sample of
the smallest objects producing all three size Spaceships--
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x=11, y=38
2b2o$o2bo$3o2$2b3o$bo2bo$b2o2$3bo$3b2o$2bobo8$6b2o$b2o2b2o$o2bo3bo$4o2$2b
2o$3bo$3o$o5$2o3b2o3bo$obobobob2o$b2obo4b2o$4b2o$4bo$5bo$4b2o!
And try this one for amusement, the longest lived--
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x=9, y=10
7b2o$4b2o2bo$3bobobo$2bo3bo$bo$o$2o$3b2o$3bobo$3bo!
(15370 generations)
Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries
Posted: January 12th, 2020, 9:48 pm
by Hdjensofjfnen
Entity Valkyrie 2 wrote: ↑January 12th, 2020, 8:52 pm
That "14-cell" still life
is 14 cells.
So it does. I forgot to erase one of the glider's cells.
Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries
Posted: January 22nd, 2020, 8:27 am
by Pavgran
How to stop Loafer with LWSS:
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x = 301, y = 201, rule = LifeHistory
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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries
Posted: January 22nd, 2020, 3:48 pm
by computer_kid
Hey everyone, I stumbled across a 5-cell pattern in a 3x3 bounding box that lasts 1104 generations, so 1 generation longer than the r-pentomino.
I would be surprised if no one found it yet, since it is so small, but I'm still putting this here since I could not find it anywhere:
x0x
xx0
x00
Does anyone know if this pattern has been documented yet and if yes, why it is not in the wiki "list of long-lived methuselahs"?
Thanks!
Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries
Posted: January 22nd, 2020, 3:53 pm
by muzik
computer_kid wrote: ↑January 22nd, 2020, 3:48 pm
Hey everyone, I stumbled across a 5-cell pattern in a 3x3 bounding box that lasts 1104 generations, so 1 generation longer than the r-pentomino.
I would be surprised if no one found it yet, since it is so small, but I'm still putting this here since I could not find it anywhere:
x0x
xx0
x00
Does anyone know if this pattern has been documented yet and if yes, why it is not in the wiki "list of long-lived methuselahs"?
Thanks!
I'd recommend evolving it one generation and then looking at it
Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries
Posted: January 22nd, 2020, 4:07 pm
by computer_kid
Ah, that explains why it lasts exactly one generation longer than the r-pentomino
Thanks!
Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries
Posted: February 5th, 2020, 9:37 pm
by GUYTU6J
10G Cloverleaf interchange:
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x = 65, y = 26, rule = B3/S23
51bo$50bo$50b3o$48bo$46bobo$47b2o4$36bo14bobo$34bobo14b2o$35b2o15bo$
42bo$42bobo$42b2o$bo60b2o$2b2o57bo2bo$b2o59b2o$6bo$6b2o$2o3bobo38b3o7b
3o$b2o45bo7bo$o46bo9bo$51bo$51bo$51bo!
Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries
Posted: February 8th, 2020, 11:05 pm
by GUYTU6J
GUYTU6J wrote: ↑February 4th, 2020, 12:28 am
5G
xs23_39e0o4czc970123 improved from 8G, thanks to a 3G pi+boat given by synthesise_patt_v1.2.py:
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x = 25, y = 34, rule = B3/S23
6bo$4bobo$5b2o13$18bo$18b2o2b2o$17bobo2bobo$22bo5$11b2o$10bobo$12bo6$b
2o$obo$2bo!
The pi+boat reaction on the left around gen 69 is a good way to synthesis adjacent bookends. It is even compatible with 3G boat-tie-house reactions, which has fifteen 3G pathways (duplicates not excluded) according to synthesise_patt_v1.2.py:
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x = 21, y = 10, rule = B3/S23
bo$2b2o4bo$b2o3b2o$7b2o10bo$18bo$bo16b3o$b2o11b3o$obo5bo5bo$7bobo5bo$
7b2o!
Something tied to boat is preserved after the reaction:
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x = 21, y = 13, rule = B3/S23
bo$2bo$3o16bo$4b3o11bo$6bo11b3o$5bo8b3o$8bo5bo$7bobo5bo$7b2o$5b2o$4bob
o$4bo$3b2o!
The reaction on the right is also modifiable. For instance this R-loaf:
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x = 20, y = 13, rule = B3/S23
16bo$15bo$15b3o$bo$2bo6bo$3o7b2o6bo$9b2o6b2o$17bobo$4b3o$6bo$5bo3bo$8b
obo$8b2o!
With some edgeshooting house and boat-tie-house reactions, a wickstretching mechanism is likely doable. However I've not found one.
It's also notable that in the quote above there is one of the eighteen 3G reactions giving a boat+pi combo at sweet spot.
Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries
Posted: February 8th, 2020, 11:43 pm
by dvgrn
GUYTU6J wrote: ↑February 8th, 2020, 11:05 pm
With some edgeshooting house and boat-tie-house reactions, a wickstretching mechanism is likely doable. However I've not found one.
It's also notable that in the quote above there is one of the eighteen 3G reactions giving a boat+pi combo at sweet spot.
------
Is everything above known?
It's not known to me (not that that means all that much, glider synthesis not being my strong point).
I'd say that if
Catagolue doesn't know that 7G recipe for the 28-bit still life, the mechanism can't be too generally known.
Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries
Posted: February 9th, 2020, 1:04 am
by mniemiec
GUYTU6J wrote: ↑February 8th, 2020, 11:05 pm
With some edgeshooting house and boat-tie-house reactions, a wickstretching mechanism is likely doable. However I've not found one.
It's also notable that in the quote above there is one of the eighteen 3G reactions giving a boat+pi combo at sweet spot.
------
Is everything above known?
The mechanism of attacking a boat (or otherwise anchored tub-like bonding site) with something with an attached line-or-two, like a ship, has been known for a long time. However, I don't recall it ever being used to add a house to make a line-of-five.
However, the reverse has been known for a long time. Dave Buckingham used it in his Hustler synthesis; it's one of the steps in the mechanism to move an inductor from one side of a billiard table to the opposite side (which is probably doable with 3 gliders today).
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x = 37, y = 22, rule = B3/S23
7booboo15booboo$7bo3bo15bo3bo$8b3o17b3o$$10b3o17b3o$9bo3boboo12bo3bob
oo$9bo3boboo12bo3boboo$6boobo3bo12boobo3bo$6boobobobo12boobobobo$10b3o
17b3o$$12b3o13b3ob3o$o10bo3bo11bobbobobbo$boobb3o3booboo11boo5boo$oo5b
o$6bo$$4b3o18boo$4bobbo17boo$4bo$4bo$5bobo!
Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries
Posted: February 9th, 2020, 9:34 am
by dvgrn
GUYTU6J wrote: ↑February 8th, 2020, 11:05 pm
With some edgeshooting house and boat-tie-house reactions, a wickstretching mechanism is likely doable. However I've not found one.
With the recipe that starts with a boat and ends with a new tied boat, this wickstretcher recipe comes to mind immediately:
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x = 268, y = 267, rule = LifeSuper
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.pA.pA15.O17.W17.M17.S17.pA17.O17.W$136.pA$133.2M.pA.pA$134.M2.2pA$
132.W.W$132.2W$130.2W$129.W.W$125.2W2.W$125.W.W.WM$127.W$125.W.W.2M$
125.2W2.M$129.S.S$130.2S!
#C [[ THUMBNAIL THUMBSIZE 2 AUTOSTART Y 104 Z 8 TRACKLOOP 36 0 -1/4 ]]
Plain two-state RLE:
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x = 268, y = 267, rule = B3/S23
4bo$5b2o248bo$4b2o247b2o$254b2o10bo$265bo$265b3o2$245bo$245bobo$245b2o
9$250bo$17bo230b2o$18b2o229b2o$6bo10b2o$7bo$5b3o2$27bo$25bobo$26b2o9$
22bo$23b2o212bo$22b2o211b2o$236b2o10bo$247bo$247b3o2$227bo$227bobo$
227b2o9$232bo$35bo194b2o$36b2o193b2o$24bo10b2o$25bo$23b3o2$45bo$43bobo
$44b2o9$40bo$41b2o176bo$40b2o175b2o$218b2o10bo$229bo$229b3o2$209bo$
209bobo$209b2o9$214bo$53bo158b2o$54b2o157b2o$42bo10b2o$43bo$41b3o2$63b
o$61bobo$62b2o9$58bo$59b2o140bo$58b2o139b2o$200b2o10bo$211bo$211b3o2$
191bo$191bobo$191b2o9$196bo$71bo122b2o$72b2o121b2o$60bo10b2o$61bo$59b
3o2$81bo$79bobo$80b2o9$76bo$77b2o104bo$76b2o103b2o$182b2o10bo$193bo$
193b3o2$173bo$173bobo$173b2o9$178bo$89bo86b2o$90b2o85b2o$78bo10b2o$79b
o$77b3o2$99bo$97bobo$98b2o9$94bo$95b2o68bo$94b2o67b2o$164b2o10bo$175bo
$175b3o2$155bo$155bobo$155b2o9$160bo$107bo50b2o$108b2o49b2o$96bo10b2o$
97bo$95b3o2$117bo$115bobo$116b2o9$112bo$113b2o32bo$112b2o31b2o$146b2o
10bo$157bo$157b3o2$137bo$137bobo$137b2o9$142bo$125bo14b2o$126b2o13b2o$
114bo10b2o$115bo$113b3o2$135bo$133bobo$134b2o3$130bo$3o15b3o15b3o15b3o
15b3o15b3o15b3o18bobo12b3o15b3o15b3o15b3o15b3o15b3o15b3o$2bo17bo17bo
17bo17bo17bo17bo19b2o12bo17bo17bo17bo17bo17bo17bo$bo17bo17bo17bo17bo
17bo17bo22b2o11bo17bo17bo17bo17bo17bo17bo$9b3o15b3o15b3o15b3o15b3o15b
3o15b3o12bobo18b3o15b3o15b3o15b3o15b3o15b3o15b3o$11bo17bo17bo17bo17bo
17bo17bo14bo2b2o14bo17bo17bo17bo17bo17bo17bo$10bo17bo17bo17bo17bo17bo
17bo14b2obobo15bo17bo17bo17bo17bo17bo17bo$136bo$133b2obobo$134bo2b2o$
132bobo$132b2o$130b2o$129bobo$125b2o2bo$125bobob2o$127bo$125bobob2o$
125b2o2bo$129bobo$130b2o!
Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries
Posted: February 13th, 2020, 8:11 pm
by North_of_East
A blasting cap can burn through an oblique wick of boats at (15,3)c/63 while emitting gliders, one per two boats burnt through, and leaving behind some blocks and blinkers
No clue how useful this is or if it's known
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x = 32, y = 108, rule = B3/S23
22b2o$21bobo$22bo3$27b2ob2o$28bobo$29bo8$19b2o$18bobo$19bo13$16b2o$15b
obo$16bo13$13b2o$12bobo$13bo13$10b2o$9bobo$10bo13$7b2o$6bobo$7bo13$4b
2o$3bobo$4bo13$b2o$obo$bo!
Found while playing around with block interactions
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x = 5, y = 11, rule = B3/S23
3b2o$3b2o2$2ob2o$2ob2o5$2o$2o!
Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries
Posted: February 14th, 2020, 4:54 pm
by Ian07
I feel like this component should be known:
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x = 10, y = 10, rule = B3/S23
bo$bo5bo$bo4bobo$6bobo$5b2ob2o3$3o$2bo$bo!
Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries
Posted: February 16th, 2020, 2:00 am
by Entity Valkyrie 2
Can this be synthesized?
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x = 10, y = 6, rule = B3/S23
obob2ob2o$obo3b2o$2b3o4bo$bo2b2o2b2o$o2bo3b2o$b2o4b2o!
Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries
Posted: February 16th, 2020, 2:27 am
by GUYTU6J
Entity Valkyrie 2 wrote: ↑February 16th, 2020, 2:00 am
Can this be synthesized?
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x = 10, y = 6, rule = B3/S23
obob2ob2o$obo3b2o$2b3o4bo$bo2b2o2b2o$o2bo3b2o$b2o4b2o!
The final 2xblock+beehive constellation in 4G:
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x = 19, y = 14, rule = B3/S23
18bo$16b2o$17b2o2$13bobo$13b2o$8bobo3bo$9b2o$9bo3$bo$b2o$obo!
Is the evolutionary sequence useful for something like a spaceship synthesis?
Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries
Posted: February 16th, 2020, 4:49 am
by Bullet51
GUYTU6J wrote: ↑February 16th, 2020, 2:27 am
Is the evolutionary sequence useful for something like a spaceship synthesis?
Yes, it's a proposed reaction for the synthesis of 56P6H1V0:
Bullet51 wrote: ↑February 8th, 2020, 9:53 am
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x = 69, y = 31, rule = B3/S23
59bobob2ob2o$10bo19bo28bobo3b2o$2b2o5b2o11b2o5b2o22b2o6b3o4bo$2b2o5b2o
bo2bo6b2o5b2obo20b2o5bo2b2o2b2o$8bobo2b2o13bobo2b3o23bo2bo3b2o$2b4o3b
3o2bo7b4o3b3o2bobo16b4o3b2o4b2o$bo4bo14bo4bo25bo4bo$b2o2b2o14b2o2b2o
25b2o2b2o$2bo2bo4b2o10bo2bo4b2o21bo2bo4b2o$o6bobobo8bo6bobobo19bo6bobo
bo$9o4bo6b9o4bo17b9o2$2o2b2ob4o9b2o2b2ob4o20b2o2b2ob4o$2o2b2obo2bo9b2o
2b2obo2bo20b2o2b2obo2bo5$9b2o18bo$2b2o5b2o11b2o5b2o$2b2o4b3obo2bo6b2o
4b3o4bo$10bo2b2o15bob3o$2b4o3b3o2bo7b4o3b3obo2bo$bo4bo14bo4bo$b2o2b2o
14b2o2b2o$2bo2bo4b2o10bo2bo4b2o$o6bobobo8bo6bobobo$9o4bo6b9o4bo2$2o2b
2ob4o9b2o2b2ob4o$2o2b2obo2bo9b2o2b2obo2bo!
Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries
Posted: February 16th, 2020, 5:55 am
by Entity Valkyrie 2
Also, synthesizing this is also fine:
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x = 9, y = 6, rule = B3/S23
b2o$4b2o2bo$o$o3bobobo$b3o3bo$2bo!
Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries
Posted: February 17th, 2020, 3:24 pm
by Hdjensofjfnen
dvgrn wrote: ↑February 9th, 2020, 9:34 am
GUYTU6J wrote: ↑February 8th, 2020, 11:05 pm
With some edgeshooting house and boat-tie-house reactions, a wickstretching mechanism is likely doable. However I've not found one.
With the recipe that starts with a boat and ends with a new tied boat, this wickstretcher recipe comes to mind immediately:
That wick also burns cleanly at 18c/44o:
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x = 14, y = 113, rule = B3/S23
5bo$4bobo$5b2o$7b2o$7bobo$9bo2b2o$8b2obobo$11bo$8b2obobo$9bo2b2o$7bob
o$7b2o$5b2o$4bobo$2o2bo$obob2o$2bo$obob2o$2o2bo$4bobo$5b2o$7b2o$7bobo
$9bo2b2o$8b2obobo$11bo$8b2obobo$9bo2b2o$7bobo$7b2o$5b2o$4bobo$2o2bo$o
bob2o$2bo$obob2o$2o2bo$4bobo$5b2o$7b2o$7bobo$9bo2b2o$8b2obobo$11bo$8b
2obobo$9bo2b2o$7bobo$7b2o$5b2o$4bobo$2o2bo$obob2o$2bo$obob2o$2o2bo$4b
obo$5b2o$7b2o$7bobo$9bo2b2o$8b2obobo$11bo$8b2obobo$9bo2b2o$7bobo$7b2o
$5b2o$4bobo$2o2bo$obob2o$2bo$obob2o$2o2bo$4bobo$5b2o$7b2o$7bobo$9bo2b
2o$8b2obobo$11bo$8b2obobo$9bo2b2o$7bobo$7b2o$5b2o$4bobo$2o2bo$obob2o$
2bo$obob2o$2o2bo$4bobo$5b2o$7b2o$7bobo$9bo2b2o$8b2obobo$11bo$8b2obobo
$9bo2b2o$7bobo$7b2o$5b2o$4bobo$2o2bo$obob2o$2bo$obob2o$2o2bo$4bobo$5b
2o$8bo$7b2o!
Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries
Posted: March 9th, 2020, 6:55 pm
by JP21
Is this known? I don't see it anywhere else (p16 bumper):
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x = 42, y = 23, rule = B3/S23
2o24b2o$bo25bo$bobo9bobo11bobo9bobo$2b2o9b2o13b2o9b2o$14bo25bo2$6b2o
24b2o$5bo2bo22bo2bo$6bobo23bobo$7bo25bo5$6b3o24b3o2$9b2ob2o14b2ob2o$8b
obob2o14b2obobo$7bo26bo$7bo4bo16bo4bo$7bo4bo16bo4bo$7b2o2bo18bo2b2o$7b
2o24b2o!
Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries
Posted: March 11th, 2020, 7:41 am
by Freywa
JP21 wrote: ↑March 9th, 2020, 6:55 pm
Is this known? I don't see it anywhere else (p16 bumper):
The bumper is known and the Rob's p16's interactions are known. This could be considered new, but anywhere it could be used, a p8 bumper could be used, and the oscillators used for p8 bumpers take up smaller space than Rob's p16.
Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries
Posted: March 13th, 2020, 6:29 am
by Entity Valkyrie 2
I updated the bumper and bouncer gallery.
EDIT: That was risky, since it was too late I found that it wasn't in my list of "galleries" in my user page. However, it seems like I've made almost all the edits in this page (other than one edit by Ian07).
EDIT: Both of the P16 bumper variants have a smaller bounding box than the p8 bumper with the blocker.
Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries
Posted: March 16th, 2020, 8:19 am
by gameoflifemaniac
I discovered this new p240
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x = 16, y = 11, rule = B3/S23
14bo$14bo$5b3o5bobo$14bo$2ob2o9bo$2obobo8bo$6bo7bo$bo4bo6bobo$bo4bo7bo
$2bo2b2o7bo$5b2o!
Was this already discovered before me after the discovery of Rob's p16?
EDIT: Also this p48 which LifeWiki told it could be made only trivially
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x = 19, y = 13, rule = B3/S23
b2o$b2o2bo$bo4bo$bo4bo$bo$2bobob2o4b2o$3b2ob2o4b2o2$3o9bo$11bobo$11bo
2bo2b2o$15bob2o$13b2o!
Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries
Posted: March 16th, 2020, 8:56 am
by JP21
gameoflifemaniac wrote: ↑March 16th, 2020, 8:19 am
I discovered this new p240
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x = 16, y = 11, rule = B3/S23
14bo$14bo$5b3o5bobo$14bo$2ob2o9bo$2obobo8bo$6bo7bo$bo4bo6bobo$bo4bo7bo
$2bo2b2o7bo$5b2o!
Was this already discovered before me after the discovery of Rob's p16?
You've discovered (or rather, posted) it first but it had already been imagined/thought of before.
Ian07 wrote: ↑February 10th, 2020, 5:17 pm
Sokwe wrote: ↑February 10th, 2020, 3:29 pm
It has a few weak sparks, so it will probably give some smaller LCM oscillators, although I'm not sure if it will be useful beyond that.
Unfortunately, I wasn't able to reduce any other low periods using this, as the spark is too close to avoid destroying the oscillator. p240 can be easily done using a pentadecathlon, but it looks like the p48, p80, p96, and p144 pages won't need updating unless I'm missing something. Either way, massive congrats to Rob Liston!
Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries
Posted: March 16th, 2020, 9:00 am
by gameoflifemaniac
EDIT: Also this p48 which LifeWiki told it could be made only trivially
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x = 19, y = 13, rule = B3/S23
b2o$b2o2bo$bo4bo$bo4bo$bo$2bobob2o4b2o$3b2ob2o4b2o2$3o9bo$11bobo$11bo
2bo2b2o$15bob2o$13b2o!
I still found this one though