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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries
Posted: December 25th, 2020, 7:01 pm
by goldenratio
MathAndCode wrote: ↑December 25th, 2020, 3:50 pm
Yes, but along with Kazyan's recent c/61 orthogonal partial and a couple of other examples where a common object or arrangement of common objects happens to form from almost the same setup except translated or glide-reflected, it could suggest that looking for high-period spaceships where one phase happens to form again because it's composed of common objects might be worthwhile.
Well, that's exactly what apgsearch does, and since we haven't discovered a new high-period spaceship in 175 trillion soups, it's safe to assume that any such spaceship would have to be really complicated.
Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries
Posted: December 25th, 2020, 7:24 pm
by MathAndCode
goldenratio wrote: ↑December 25th, 2020, 7:01 pm
Well, that's exactly what apgsearch does, and since we haven't discovered a new high-period spaceship in 175 trillion soups, it's safe to assume that any such spaceship would have to be really complicated. Like I've said before, a new high period object from apgsearch is probably more likely to be a "moving blob" like copperhead or Rob's p16 than some perfectly timed reactions.
The problem with that is they would only be detected if they formed at the edge of the reaction envelope because otherwise, the spaceship would crash into another object before escaping. Even if the spaceship were created at the edge of the reaction envelope and happened to be facing in the right way, it would likely be slow enough to get destroyed by a glider, XWSS, or possibly even a B-heptomino that got formed later. Thanks to apgsearch, we can rule some possibilities, such as two synchronized common active objects and one common stationary object, out with near certainty, but there are still more possibilities remaining than you might think.
Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries
Posted: December 25th, 2020, 7:32 pm
by bubblegum
MathAndCode wrote: ↑December 25th, 2020, 7:24 pm
The problem with that is they would only be detected if they formed at the edge of the reaction envelope because otherwise, the spaceship would crash into another object before escaping. Even if the spaceship were created at the edge of the reaction envelope and happened to be facing in the right way, it would likely be slow enough to get destroyed by a glider, XWSS, or possibly even a B-heptomino that got formed later. Thanks to apgsearch, we can rule some possibilities, such as two synchronized common active objects and one common stationary object, out with near certainty, but there are still more possibilities remaining than you might think.
c/98o is clearly fast enough.
Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries
Posted: December 25th, 2020, 7:43 pm
by MathAndCode
bubblegum wrote: ↑December 25th, 2020, 7:32 pm
c/98o is clearly fast enough.
What are you referring to?
Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries
Posted: December 25th, 2020, 9:00 pm
by calcyman
MathAndCode wrote: ↑December 25th, 2020, 7:43 pm
bubblegum wrote: ↑December 25th, 2020, 7:32 pm
c/98o is clearly fast enough.
What are you referring to?
Probably this:
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x = 16, y = 31, rule = B36/S23
o2bob4o5bo$3obob2o3b3obo$o6b3o5bo$bo2b5o2b3o$obo3b2ob7o$4bo3b6obo$o2b
2o3bo2b5o$3bo2b3obo3bo$2obo2bo3b3o2bo$3b2o2bobobo3bo$bobo4bob6o$2o2bo
3bobo3b2o$2o6bob6o$3bo2b2o3b3obo$2bob3ob2o3bo$2bo2b3obo2bobo$2bob3ob2o
3bo$3bo2b2o3b3obo$2o6bob6o$2o2bo3bobo3b2o$bobo4bob6o$3b2o2bobobo3bo$2o
bo2bo3b3o2bo$3bo2b3obo3bo$o2b2o3bo2b5o$4bo3b6obo$obo3b2ob7o$bo2b5o2b3o
$o6b3o5bo$3obob2o3b3obo$o2bob4o5bo!
Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries
Posted: December 25th, 2020, 9:04 pm
by MathAndCode
calcyman wrote: ↑December 25th, 2020, 9:00 pm
Probably this:
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x = 16, y = 31, rule = B36/S23
o2bob4o5bo$3obob2o3b3obo$o6b3o5bo$bo2b5o2b3o$obo3b2ob7o$4bo3b6obo$o2b
2o3bo2b5o$3bo2b3obo3bo$2obo2bo3b3o2bo$3b2o2bobobo3bo$bobo4bob6o$2o2bo
3bobo3b2o$2o6bob6o$3bo2b2o3b3obo$2bob3ob2o3bo$2bo2b3obo2bobo$2bob3ob2o
3bo$3bo2b2o3b3obo$2o6bob6o$2o2bo3bobo3b2o$bobo4bob6o$3b2o2bobobo3bo$2o
bo2bo3b3o2bo$3bo2b3obo3bo$o2b2o3bo2b5o$4bo3b6obo$obo3b2ob7o$bo2b5o2b3o
$o6b3o5bo$3obob2o3b3obo$o2bob4o5bo!
Thank you.
bubblegum wrote: ↑December 25th, 2020, 7:32 pm
c/98o is clearly fast enough.
Yes, but most of the time, the spaceship wouldn't form cleanly. Soups that create more objects create more objects, so soups that are more likely to create such a spaceship also create more objects that it could crash into.
Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries
Posted: December 25th, 2020, 9:09 pm
by bubblegum
MathAndCode wrote: ↑December 25th, 2020, 9:04 pm
Yes, but most of the time, the spaceship wouldn't form cleanly. Soups that create more objects create more objects, so soups that are more likely to create such a spaceship also create more objects that it could crash into.
Hm, I was actually under the impression that the soup did not form it cleanly, based on a comment by codeholic a few years back. Oh well.
Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries
Posted: December 31st, 2020, 9:13 pm
by drlobster
I think I may have discovered a new fuse, although I'm not quite sure
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x = 7, y = 36, rule = B3/S23
b2ob2o$obobobo2$b2ob2o$b2ob2o$b2ob2o2$b2ob2o$b2ob2o2$b2ob2o$b2ob2o2$b
2ob2o$b2ob2o2$b2ob2o$b2ob2o2$b2ob2o$b2ob2o2$b2ob2o$b2ob2o2$b2ob2o$b2ob
2o2$b2ob2o$b2ob2o2$b2ob2o$b2ob2o2$b2ob2o$b2ob2o!
is this interesting?
Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries
Posted: December 31st, 2020, 9:17 pm
by MathAndCode
drlobster wrote: ↑December 31st, 2020, 9:13 pm
I think I may have discovered a new fuse, although I'm not quite sure
I haven't seen it before, but it seems simple enough that it seems likely that someone else has found it before.
Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries
Posted: December 31st, 2020, 10:04 pm
by yujh
Sadly I think almost everything found by hand is not new.
Nice (re)discovery though!
Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries
Posted: December 31st, 2020, 11:10 pm
by Scorbie
Wait it may make an entertaining version of the c/2 variable-period rake/puffer/ etc
Edit: I was talking about this one, but I can see that the spacing is a bit off...
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x = 108, y = 46, rule = B3/S23
39bo$36b4o$36b2o$34bo$34b4o$33bo10bo$32b3o2bo4b3o$33b3o5b2o$34bo6bo$
35b3obobo$35bo2b2o5b4o$36b2o3bo2b6o$37b4o2b2ob4o$44b2o$37b4o$36b2o3bo$
35bo2b2o$13bo21b3obobobo22b4o$10b4o11b4o5bo6bobo21b6o$10b2o6bo5b6o3b3o
5b2obo4bobo12b2ob4o$8bo7b3o4b2ob4o2b3o2bo4b2o6b2o13b2o$8b6ob2o7b2o7bo
9bo6bo4bobo20b4o$5bobo9b4o13b4o18b2o20bo3bo$4b7obo4bo3bo12bo21bo4bobo
4b2o8bo$3b2o7bo4b3o16b2o24b2o15bo2bo$2b2o4b2o4b2o3bobobo12b4o22bo4bobo
$3b2o4bo2bo8bobo15bo28b2o$10bobo8b2obo4bobo36bo33b2o$3b2o17b2o6b2o62b
2o7b2o$2b2o2b2o4bobo8bo6bo4bobo2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o35bo2bo5bo$b2o2b3o
4bo23b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2bobo35b2o$3obo6bo2bo45b2o$b2o2b3o4bo23b2o2b2o
2b2o2b2o2b2o2bo5bo$2b2o2b2o4bobo8bo6bo4bobo2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2bo3b2o$3b
2o17b2o6b2o25bo37b2o$10bobo8b2obo4bobo63b3o$3b2o4bo2bo8bobo37bo2bo30b
2o$2b2o4b2o4b2o3bobobo36bo12bo$3b2o7bo4b3o40bo3bo6bo3bo$4b7obo4bo3bo
38b4o6bo$5bobo9b4o49bo4bo$8b6ob2o7b2o44b5o29b2o$8bo7b3o4b2ob4o72bo4bo$
10b2o6bo5b6o71bo$10b4o11b4o72bo5bo$13bo87b6o!
Edit2: Oh the fuse is in jslife... :(
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x = 220, y = 180, rule = B3/S23
210bobobo2$210bo$90bo3bobobo$143bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo
3bo3bob2o11bobobo3bobobo$90bo3bo3bo44b39obo2bo3bo$183bo2bo15bo3bo3bo3b
o$51bo4b4o22bobobo3bo3bo3bo44b2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2o6b
3o$b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o2b2o4b2o3bo2bob2obobo12bo68b2ob2ob2o
b2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2o18bobobo3bobobo$o2bobo2bobo2bobo2bobo
2bobo2bobo2bobo2bob2o4b3obo10b3o10bo7bo3bo3bo3bo3bo$b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b
2o3b2o3b2o3b2o2b2o4b2o3bo2bob2obobo12bo127bo$51bo4b4o22bobobo3bo3bobob
o$202bo$82bo2$82bo3$209bobobo2$209bo2$87bo3bobobo105bobobo3bobobo$143b
o2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo3b2o$55bo5bo25bo3bo3bo47b38o20bo
3bo3bo3bo$50b2o3bobo3bo$b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o2b2o4b4o2bo4b2o
20bobobo3bo3bo3bo47b38o20bobobo3bobobo$o2bobo2bobo2bobo2bobo2bobo2bobo
2bobo2bob2o4b2obo2bo3b3o84bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo3b2o$b
2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o2b2o4b4o2bo4b2o20bo3bo3bo3bo3bo105bo$50b
2o3bobo3bo$55bo5bo17bobobo3bo3bobobo105bo2$79bo2$79bo7$89bobobo85b2o
34bobobo$182bo$89bo81bo4bo6bo31bo$171b2o3bo$b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b
2o3b2o2b2o4b4obo29bobobo3bobobo39bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo4b
3o3b2o6bo21bobobo3bobobo$o2bobo2bobo2bobo2bobo2bobo2bobo2bobo2bob2o4b
2obo2bo80b35o5b2o2bo3b2o2b2ob2o4b2o4b2o$b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b
2o2b2o4b4obo29bo3bo7bo76bo7bo3bob5o5b2o4b2o5bo3bo3bo3bo$133b38o3b2o3b
2obob2obo$81bobobo3bobobo39bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo6bo6b
4o20bobobo3bobobo$174bobo$81bo93bo31bo2$81bo125bo9$87bobobo2$87bo2$56b
o22bobobo3bobobo$50b2o3bobo$b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o2b2o4b4o2bo
26bo3bo7bo118bobobo$o2bobo2bobo2bobo2bobo2bobo2bobo2bobo2bob2o4b2obo2b
o5bo3b2o3b2o$b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o2b2o4b4obo4b3o2bo2bobo2bo
9bobobo3bobobo118bo$62b2o3b2o$79bo99b2o5b4o12bobobo3bobobo$179b3o3bo2b
2o$79bo55bob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob3ob2obo4b2ob5o9bo3bo3b
o3bo$135b2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2obo11b2ob3o$189b3o10bobo
bo3bobobo$135b2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2o$134bob2ob2ob2ob2o
b2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2o28bo$134bo$133b2o67bo8$86bobobo2$6b2o2b2o2b
2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o7b2o21bo3bo122bobobo$ob2o2b
2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b3obo4b2o114b2o5b4o$2ob
o53bob2o17bobobo3bobobo88b3o3bo2b2o23bo$4b52o3b2o74bob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob
2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob3ob2obo4b2ob5o$57bob2o17bo3bo3bo3bo44b2ob2ob2ob2o
b2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2obo11b2ob3o13bobobo3bobobo$6b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o
2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b3obo4b2o124b3o$6b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o
2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o7b2o13bobobo3bobobo44b2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob
2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2o2bo29bo3bo3bo3bo$135b2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2o
b2ob2ob2ob2obo5b3o$78bo96bob2o2b2o5bo16bobobo3bobobo$179b2o7bo$78bo
100bo25bo2$205bo8$85bobobo$213bobobo$23b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o
2b2o28bo3bo$23b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o81b2o77bo$56b2ob3o15b
obobo3bobobo49bo$59b3o77bob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2o38bobobo3bobobo$
21b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o4bo17bo3bo3bo3bo50b2ob2ob2ob2ob2o
b2ob2ob2ob3o$21b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o109bo40bo3bo7bo$77bo
bobo3bobobo50b2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2o$140b2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2o42bob
obo3bobobo$77bo$205bo$77bo$205bo7$214bobobo2$85bo3bobobo120bo$67bo70b
2o43b2o4b2o$59bo7b2o16bo7bo45bo35b3o5b2o4b2o15bobobo3bobobo$10bo2bo2bo
2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo8b2o3bo5bobo70bob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2o
9bo2bobo$8b37o2bo3b3o7bo15bobobo3bo3bobobo46b2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2obo
b2o4b2o2bo29bo3bo3bo3bo$7bo37b4o3b2o2bobobo100bo4b5obo$7b37o5bobo3b2o
20bo3bo3bo3bo50b2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2o3bo3bo4b2o2bo29bobobo3bobobo$45b4o
3b2o2bobobo79b2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2o3bob2o6bo2bobo$7b38o2bo3b3o7bo15bobo
bo3bo3bobobo81b3o5b2o4b2o15bo$7bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo
2bo8b2o3bo5bobo114b2o4b2o$59bo7b2o8bo128bo$67bo$77bo4$212bobobo$138b2o
$139bo72bo$83bobobo51bob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2o$140b2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2o
44bobobo3bobobo$83bo81bo5bo5bo$46bobob2o3b2o83b2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2o
b4o2bobo3bobo25bo3bo3bo3bo$16b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3bobob2o3b2o18bobo
bo3bobobo52b2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2obo3bo5bo$15bo2bobo2bobo2bobo2bob
o2bobo2bobo2b2o154bobobo3bobobo$15bo2bobo2bobo2bobo2bobo2bobo2bobob3o
25bo3bo7bo$16b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b5ob2o150bo$50b4o2b2o17bobobo3bob
obo$56b2o146bo$75bo2$75bo3$82bobobo$211bobobo$82bo$211bo$46bobob2o2b2o
18bobobo3bobobo81bo$16b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3bobo5b2o87b2ob2ob2ob2ob
2ob2ob2ob2obobo2bo30bobobo3bobobo$15bo2bobo2bobo2bobo2bobo2bobo2bobobo
2bo23bo3bo7bo56b2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2o3b4o$15bo2bobo2bobo2bobo2bobo2b
obo2bobobo2bo152bo3bo3bo3bo$16b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3bobo5b2o18bobobo
3bobobo56b2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2o3b4o$46bobob2o2b2o87b2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob
2ob2ob2obobo2bo30bobobo3bobobo$74bo93bo$203bo$74bo$203bo!
Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries
Posted: January 1st, 2021, 3:37 am
by ColorfulGalaxy
Scorbie wrote: ↑December 31st, 2020, 11:10 pm
Wait it may make an entertaining version of the c/2 variable-period rake/puffer/ etc
Edit: I was talking about this one, but I can see that the spacing is a bit off...
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x = 108, y = 46, rule = B3/S23
39bo$36b4o$36b2o$34bo$34b4o$33bo10bo$32b3o2bo4b3o$33b3o5b2o$34bo6bo$
35b3obobo$35bo2b2o5b4o$36b2o3bo2b6o$37b4o2b2ob4o$44b2o$37b4o$36b2o3bo$
35bo2b2o$13bo21b3obobobo22b4o$10b4o11b4o5bo6bobo21b6o$10b2o6bo5b6o3b3o
5b2obo4bobo12b2ob4o$8bo7b3o4b2ob4o2b3o2bo4b2o6b2o13b2o$8b6ob2o7b2o7bo
9bo6bo4bobo20b4o$5bobo9b4o13b4o18b2o20bo3bo$4b7obo4bo3bo12bo21bo4bobo
4b2o8bo$3b2o7bo4b3o16b2o24b2o15bo2bo$2b2o4b2o4b2o3bobobo12b4o22bo4bobo
$3b2o4bo2bo8bobo15bo28b2o$10bobo8b2obo4bobo36bo33b2o$3b2o17b2o6b2o62b
2o7b2o$2b2o2b2o4bobo8bo6bo4bobo2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o35bo2bo5bo$b2o2b3o
4bo23b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2bobo35b2o$3obo6bo2bo45b2o$b2o2b3o4bo23b2o2b2o
2b2o2b2o2b2o2bo5bo$2b2o2b2o4bobo8bo6bo4bobo2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2bo3b2o$3b
2o17b2o6b2o25bo37b2o$10bobo8b2obo4bobo63b3o$3b2o4bo2bo8bobo37bo2bo30b
2o$2b2o4b2o4b2o3bobobo36bo12bo$3b2o7bo4b3o40bo3bo6bo3bo$4b7obo4bo3bo
38b4o6bo$5bobo9b4o49bo4bo$8b6ob2o7b2o44b5o29b2o$8bo7b3o4b2ob4o72bo4bo$
10b2o6bo5b6o71bo$10b4o11b4o72bo5bo$13bo87b6o!
Edit2: Oh the fuse is in jslife...
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x = 220, y = 180, rule = B3/S23
210bobobo2$210bo$90bo3bobobo$143bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo
3bo3bob2o11bobobo3bobobo$90bo3bo3bo44b39obo2bo3bo$183bo2bo15bo3bo3bo3b
o$51bo4b4o22bobobo3bo3bo3bo44b2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2o6b
3o$b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o2b2o4b2o3bo2bob2obobo12bo68b2ob2ob2o
b2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2o18bobobo3bobobo$o2bobo2bobo2bobo2bobo
2bobo2bobo2bobo2bob2o4b3obo10b3o10bo7bo3bo3bo3bo3bo$b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b
2o3b2o3b2o3b2o2b2o4b2o3bo2bob2obobo12bo127bo$51bo4b4o22bobobo3bo3bobob
o$202bo$82bo2$82bo3$209bobobo2$209bo2$87bo3bobobo105bobobo3bobobo$143b
o2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo3b2o$55bo5bo25bo3bo3bo47b38o20bo
3bo3bo3bo$50b2o3bobo3bo$b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o2b2o4b4o2bo4b2o
20bobobo3bo3bo3bo47b38o20bobobo3bobobo$o2bobo2bobo2bobo2bobo2bobo2bobo
2bobo2bob2o4b2obo2bo3b3o84bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo3b2o$b
2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o2b2o4b4o2bo4b2o20bo3bo3bo3bo3bo105bo$50b
2o3bobo3bo$55bo5bo17bobobo3bo3bobobo105bo2$79bo2$79bo7$89bobobo85b2o
34bobobo$182bo$89bo81bo4bo6bo31bo$171b2o3bo$b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b
2o3b2o2b2o4b4obo29bobobo3bobobo39bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo4b
3o3b2o6bo21bobobo3bobobo$o2bobo2bobo2bobo2bobo2bobo2bobo2bobo2bob2o4b
2obo2bo80b35o5b2o2bo3b2o2b2ob2o4b2o4b2o$b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b
2o2b2o4b4obo29bo3bo7bo76bo7bo3bob5o5b2o4b2o5bo3bo3bo3bo$133b38o3b2o3b
2obob2obo$81bobobo3bobobo39bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo6bo6b
4o20bobobo3bobobo$174bobo$81bo93bo31bo2$81bo125bo9$87bobobo2$87bo2$56b
o22bobobo3bobobo$50b2o3bobo$b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o2b2o4b4o2bo
26bo3bo7bo118bobobo$o2bobo2bobo2bobo2bobo2bobo2bobo2bobo2bob2o4b2obo2b
o5bo3b2o3b2o$b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o2b2o4b4obo4b3o2bo2bobo2bo
9bobobo3bobobo118bo$62b2o3b2o$79bo99b2o5b4o12bobobo3bobobo$179b3o3bo2b
2o$79bo55bob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob3ob2obo4b2ob5o9bo3bo3b
o3bo$135b2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2obo11b2ob3o$189b3o10bobo
bo3bobobo$135b2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2o$134bob2ob2ob2ob2o
b2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2o28bo$134bo$133b2o67bo8$86bobobo2$6b2o2b2o2b
2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o7b2o21bo3bo122bobobo$ob2o2b
2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b3obo4b2o114b2o5b4o$2ob
o53bob2o17bobobo3bobobo88b3o3bo2b2o23bo$4b52o3b2o74bob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob
2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob3ob2obo4b2ob5o$57bob2o17bo3bo3bo3bo44b2ob2ob2ob2o
b2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2obo11b2ob3o13bobobo3bobobo$6b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o
2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b3obo4b2o124b3o$6b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o
2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o7b2o13bobobo3bobobo44b2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob
2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2o2bo29bo3bo3bo3bo$135b2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2o
b2ob2ob2ob2obo5b3o$78bo96bob2o2b2o5bo16bobobo3bobobo$179b2o7bo$78bo
100bo25bo2$205bo8$85bobobo$213bobobo$23b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o
2b2o28bo3bo$23b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o81b2o77bo$56b2ob3o15b
obobo3bobobo49bo$59b3o77bob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2o38bobobo3bobobo$
21b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o4bo17bo3bo3bo3bo50b2ob2ob2ob2ob2o
b2ob2ob2ob3o$21b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o109bo40bo3bo7bo$77bo
bobo3bobobo50b2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2o$140b2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2o42bob
obo3bobobo$77bo$205bo$77bo$205bo7$214bobobo2$85bo3bobobo120bo$67bo70b
2o43b2o4b2o$59bo7b2o16bo7bo45bo35b3o5b2o4b2o15bobobo3bobobo$10bo2bo2bo
2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo8b2o3bo5bobo70bob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2o
9bo2bobo$8b37o2bo3b3o7bo15bobobo3bo3bobobo46b2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2obo
b2o4b2o2bo29bo3bo3bo3bo$7bo37b4o3b2o2bobobo100bo4b5obo$7b37o5bobo3b2o
20bo3bo3bo3bo50b2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2o3bo3bo4b2o2bo29bobobo3bobobo$45b4o
3b2o2bobobo79b2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2o3bob2o6bo2bobo$7b38o2bo3b3o7bo15bobo
bo3bo3bobobo81b3o5b2o4b2o15bo$7bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo2bo
2bo8b2o3bo5bobo114b2o4b2o$59bo7b2o8bo128bo$67bo$77bo4$212bobobo$138b2o
$139bo72bo$83bobobo51bob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2o$140b2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2o
44bobobo3bobobo$83bo81bo5bo5bo$46bobob2o3b2o83b2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2o
b4o2bobo3bobo25bo3bo3bo3bo$16b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3bobob2o3b2o18bobo
bo3bobobo52b2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2obo3bo5bo$15bo2bobo2bobo2bobo2bob
o2bobo2bobo2b2o154bobobo3bobobo$15bo2bobo2bobo2bobo2bobo2bobo2bobob3o
25bo3bo7bo$16b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b5ob2o150bo$50b4o2b2o17bobobo3bob
obo$56b2o146bo$75bo2$75bo3$82bobobo$211bobobo$82bo$211bo$46bobob2o2b2o
18bobobo3bobobo81bo$16b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3bobo5b2o87b2ob2ob2ob2ob
2ob2ob2ob2obobo2bo30bobobo3bobobo$15bo2bobo2bobo2bobo2bobo2bobo2bobobo
2bo23bo3bo7bo56b2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2o3b4o$15bo2bobo2bobo2bobo2bobo2b
obo2bobobo2bo152bo3bo3bo3bo$16b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o3bobo5b2o18bobobo
3bobobo56b2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2o3b4o$46bobob2o2b2o87b2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob
2ob2ob2obobo2bo30bobobo3bobobo$74bo93bo$203bo$74bo$203bo!
The former one is called a
restarter-based rake.
Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries
Posted: January 6th, 2021, 1:33 pm
by iNoMed
Is a glider synthesis for xs28_69ak8gzx122dik8gzy53452 known or not? Catagolue seems to suggest that it isn't known (As is the case for many of the objects common in higher symmetries), but the existance of this 10G synthesis (based on a slightly-modified variant of the 6G synth for xs21_69ak8gzx122dik8) clearly contradicts things:
Code: Select all
x = 32, y = 32, rule = B3/S23
9bo$10bo$8b3o4$7bo12bo$5bobo11bo$2bo3b2o11b3o$obo$b2o3$30b2o$25b2o2b2o
$24b2o5bo$26bo4$17b3o$17bo$18bo2$15bo8b2o$14b2o7b2o$14bobo8bo3$14bo$
13b2o$13bobo!
Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries
Posted: January 6th, 2021, 1:41 pm
by bubblegum
iNoMed wrote: ↑January 6th, 2021, 1:33 pm
Is a glider synthesis for xs28_69ak8gzx122dik8gzy53452 known or not? Catagolue seems to suggest that it isn't known (As is the case for many of the objects common in higher symmetries), but the existance of this 10G synthesis (based on a slightly-modified variant of the 6G synth for xs21_69ak8gzx122dik8) clearly contradicts things:
I'd imagine "known, just forgot to tell Catagolue".
Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries
Posted: January 8th, 2021, 10:50 am
by C28
Code: Select all
x = 12, y = 12, rule = B3/S23
10b2o$7b2o2bo$7bob2o7$2bo$b3o$2o2bo!
Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries
Posted: January 8th, 2021, 9:13 pm
by Entity Valkyrie 2
yujh wrote: ↑December 31st, 2020, 10:04 pm
Sadly I think almost everything found by hand is not new.
Nice (re)discovery though!
Then I have no point of being here
Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries
Posted: January 8th, 2021, 9:22 pm
by yujh
Entity Valkyrie 2 wrote: ↑January 8th, 2021, 9:13 pm
yujh wrote: ↑December 31st, 2020, 10:04 pm
Sadly I think almost everything found by hand is not new.
Nice (re)discovery though!
Then I have no point of being here
Play the optimization game.(and make guns!)
Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries
Posted: January 10th, 2021, 5:02 pm
by C28
Code: Select all
x = 103, y = 122, rule = B3/S23
97b2o$97b2o31$65b2o$65b2o3$101b2o$101b2o27$33b2o$33b2o3$69b2o$69b2o27$
b2o$b2o3$37b2o$37b2o18$2bo$b3o$2o2bo!
EDIT:
Code: Select all
x = 37, y = 34, rule = B3/S23
3b2o$3b2o2$35b2o$35b2o22$28bo$27b3o$26b2o2bo4$2o$2o!
Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries
Posted: January 11th, 2021, 8:52 pm
by Ian07
C28 wrote: ↑January 10th, 2021, 5:02 pm
EDIT:
Code: Select all
x = 37, y = 34, rule = B3/S23
3b2o$3b2o2$35b2o$35b2o22$28bo$27b3o$26b2o2bo4$2o$2o!
This is the reaction used in the
Period-256 glider gun.
Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries
Posted: January 15th, 2021, 10:14 am
by JP21
Code: Select all
x = 10, y = 7, rule = B3/S23
2o6b2o$bo6bo$bo6bo$2o6b2o2$3b4o$3bo2bo!
Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries
Posted: January 21st, 2021, 5:06 pm
by C28
Code: Select all
x = 10, y = 4, rule = B3/S23
b2o3b2o$obo3bobo$2bo5bo$8b2o!
Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries
Posted: January 21st, 2021, 5:12 pm
by MathAndCode
C28 wrote: ↑January 21st, 2021, 5:06 pm
Code: Select all
x = 10, y = 4, rule = B3/S23
b2o3b2o$obo3bobo$2bo5bo$8b2o!
I suspect that all of the three-glider collisions with four degrees of freedom have been investigated.
Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries
Posted: January 21st, 2021, 6:51 pm
by bubblegum
MathAndCode wrote: ↑January 21st, 2021, 5:12 pm
I suspect that all of the three-glider collisions with four degrees of freedom have been investigated.
Well, all glider+object-with-17-or-less-cells collisions have, anyway.
Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries
Posted: January 30th, 2021, 6:10 pm
by MathAndCode
Here's a potential synthesis base:
Code: Select all
x = 5, y = 7, rule = B3/S23
4bo$2bobo$4bo2$2bo$2o$bo!
Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries
Posted: January 31st, 2021, 2:39 pm
by Hdjensofjfnen
MathAndCode wrote: ↑January 21st, 2021, 5:12 pm
C28 wrote: ↑January 21st, 2021, 5:06 pm
Code: Select all
x = 10, y = 4, rule = B3/S23
b2o3b2o$obo3bobo$2bo5bo$8b2o!
I suspect that all of the three-glider collisions with four degrees of freedom have been investigated.
I remember finding that collision
a while back.