## Black holes in CGOL

For discussion of specific patterns or specific families of patterns, both newly-discovered and well-known.
bibunsekibun
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### Re: Black holes in CGOL

If there are black holes, are there also white holes?
In other words, the internal pattern cannot be interfered with from the outside, and all the internal patterns are emitted to the outside.
This is a prototype I made.

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4B\$13.4B3.B.9B.B3.4B!
``````
The central red part is the singularity of White Hole. Objects that enter the interior are converted into a glider and bounced off. It also repels intrusion from the outside.
The problem is that the glider may not be able to decompose the internal patterns, in which case the structure will be destroyed. This can also occur when repelling spaceships attempting to enter from the outside.
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### Re: Black holes in CGOL

dvgrn wrote:
December 25th, 2022, 9:33 pm
hotcrystal0 wrote:
December 25th, 2022, 9:11 pm
One clarification: Why aren't you using something like this to clean the gliders?
It seems unnecessarily complicated (for the definition of "black hole" from the first post) and it doesn't work reliably:

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``````x = 25, y = 43, rule = TripleB3S23
22.G\$20.3G\$19.G\$19.2G3\$24.G\$22.3G\$21.G\$20.G.G\$21.G3\$19.2G\$19.2G4\$18.
2G\$16.G2.G2\$16.G2.G\$17.G2.G\$18.G.G\$19.G2\$18.2G\$10.2G6.2G\$.2A7.2G\$A.A
7.G.G2.2G\$2.A3.G4.2G2.2G\$5.G.G\$6.G\$11.G\$11.2G\$10.2G.G\$9.G2.3G\$8.G.G.G
\$7.G.G.G\$5.3G2.G\$6.G.2G\$7.2G\$8.G!``````
So if two different 4x4 patterns put a glider on the same lane but with different timings -- and obviously there are a whole bunch of 4x4 patterns that are in fact different phases of a glider on the same lane, so we're bound to get exactly that -- then it's dangerous to put periodic stuff on that lane. You can eliminate the problematic periods with a careful sequence of sparkers in different phases, but why not just use something stable?

-- The other answer is that this really seems more like a thought experiment to me, not so much like the kind of project that anyone would really want to complete. 4x4 is fairly easy to make an "information trap" for, but 5x5 ... not so much.

And above that it's just kind of a proof-by-induction situation: it's theoretically possible at any size, but not really very interesting to work on in practice.
but... what if we want to construct a repeatable black hole that can delete the ash from its interior? That's when the periodic thing can be used.

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``````x = 192, y = 53, rule = B3/S23
33\$42b4o\$41b6o\$40b2ob4o\$41b2o3\$41b2o\$39bo6bo\$38bo8bo\$38bo8bo\$38b9o3\$42b
4o\$41b6o\$40b2ob4o\$41b2o!``````

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### Re: Black holes in CGOL

hotcrystal0 wrote:
December 26th, 2022, 9:55 am
but... what if we want to construct a repeatable black hole that can delete the ash from its interior? That's when the periodic thing can be used.
At 4x4, that's theoretically completable, but it would be extraordinarily painful to build and test, and ultimately it doesn't seem (to me) to solve a problem that makes a whole lot of sense.

One of the really deep assumptions that 99.99% of CA research is based on, is that you lay out a pattern at T=0 and see how it runs. If cells can magically change after T=0, it's not really a CA any more -- might as well just play a video.

The exceptions that prove the rule are various attempts to invent a controller system for the Quest for Tetris project, and the BananaCode experiments that showed that you could get universal construction if you had complete control over just three cells in a banana-spark pattern.

Even if someone does want to build a repeatable black hole for 4x4, it still seems possible that it will be easier to use only stable stuff, no sparkers. It's hard to come up with a set of sparkers all on one side of a glider lane, that can destroy any glider coming along that lane no matter what its timing is. Unless you artificially constrain the times that the 4x4 patterns can re-spawn in the middle, for safety's sake you'll have to design your glider catchers to deal with all possible glider phases.

Also, sparkers destroy information by simply removing the gliders. It might be useful for the ash-cleanup part of the project to know exactly which lanes the output gliders.

-- Probably not, though. There are probably enough different 4x4 patterns that don't produce any output gliders, and therefore can't be differentiated by the information they emit, that the only reasonable way to handle the cleanup will be with something like Andrew Wade's ash-cleaning mechanism. Which means the cleanup will take an inordinately long time, and probably it will need a few months of extra testing to make sure that none of the 4x4 starting patterns cause any unlucky ash-clearing resets as they're being cleaned up, that emit unexpected gliders that might escape from the black hole.

For a bit of perspective, here's the 4x4 pattern that creates the highest-population ash cloud. The cleanup project would have to be able to handle all eight orientations of this mess, along with thousands of other smaller random ash clouds.

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``````x = 4, y = 4, rule = Life
3bo\$4o\$2obo\$3o!
``````

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### Re: Black holes in CGOL

dvgrn wrote:
December 26th, 2022, 10:54 am
hotcrystal0 wrote:
December 26th, 2022, 9:55 am
but... what if we want to construct a repeatable black hole that can delete the ash from its interior? That's when the periodic thing can be used.
At 4x4, that's theoretically completable, but it would be extraordinarily painful to build and test, and ultimately it doesn't seem (to me) to solve a problem that makes a whole lot of sense.

One of the really deep assumptions that 99.99% of CA research is based on, is that you lay out a pattern at T=0 and see how it runs. If cells can magically change after T=0, it's not really a CA any more -- might as well just play a video.

The exceptions that prove the rule are various attempts to invent a controller system for the Quest for Tetris project, and the BananaCode experiments that showed that you could get universal construction if you had complete control over just three cells in a banana-spark pattern.

Even if someone does want to build a repeatable black hole for 4x4, it still seems possible that it will be easier to use only stable stuff, no sparkers. It's hard to come up with a set of sparkers all on one side of a glider lane, that can destroy any glider coming along that lane no matter what its timing is. Unless you artificially constrain the times that the 4x4 patterns can re-spawn in the middle, for safety's sake you'll have to design your glider catchers to deal with all possible glider phases.

Also, sparkers destroy information by simply removing the gliders. It might be useful for the ash-cleanup part of the project to know exactly which lanes the output gliders.

-- Probably not, though. There are probably enough different 4x4 patterns that don't produce any output gliders, and therefore can't be differentiated by the information they emit, that the only reasonable way to handle the cleanup will be with something like Andrew Wade's ash-cleaning mechanism. Which means the cleanup will take an inordinately long time, and probably it will need a few months of extra testing to make sure that none of the 4x4 starting patterns cause any unlucky ash-clearing resets as they're being cleaned up, that emit unexpected gliders that might escape from the black hole.

For a bit of perspective, here's the 4x4 pattern that creates the highest-population ash cloud. The cleanup project would have to be able to handle all eight orientations of this mess, along with thousands of other smaller random ash clouds.

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``````x = 4, y = 4, rule = Life
3bo\$4o\$2obo\$3o!
``````
So... that basically means a 4×4 black hole has to be at least 320 by 320.

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``````x = 192, y = 53, rule = B3/S23
33\$42b4o\$41b6o\$40b2ob4o\$41b2o3\$41b2o\$39bo6bo\$38bo8bo\$38bo8bo\$38b9o3\$42b
4o\$41b6o\$40b2ob4o\$41b2o!``````

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### Re: Black holes in CGOL

bibunsekibun wrote:
December 26th, 2022, 4:32 am
If there are black holes, are there also white holes?
In other words, the internal pattern cannot be interfered with from the outside, and all the internal patterns are emitted to the outside.

The problem is that the glider may not be able to decompose the internal patterns, in which case the structure will be destroyed. This can also occur when repelling spaceships attempting to enter from the outside.
Here's a thing to know: Since you said it nothing can interfere from the OUTSIDE, you probably won't have to care about random blocks that need to be deleted. You only need to care about spaceships.

By the way, there's another flaw. Sometimes one too many gliders will be emitted, which might cause some problems for the pattern. Here's an example:

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``````x = 286, y = 501, rule = B3/S23Super
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.9B.B3.4B!``````
In the example, a LWSS is turned into a beehive, but due to timing reasons, one of the streams lets out two gliders instead of one. A blocker(shown in white) filters out the problematic glider. However, if it were to be removed, then the glider would collide with the pond, and it would destroy the pattern.

By the way, you only need to filter out every OTHER glider so you might want to use this P92 gun.

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``````x = 51, y = 25, rule = B3/S23Super
4.2A\$5.A16.2A\$5.A.AB10.2A2.A\$6.3A.2A5.3A.2A\$8.2ABAB3.A4.B\$8.3AB5.3AB2A
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\$3.A6.4B11.3B\$2.2A4.5B13.2B\$8.2A\$9.A\$6.3A\$6.A!``````
Basically, for every period n white hole with your design, all the guns except the final two should be period 2n.

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``````x = 192, y = 53, rule = B3/S23
33\$42b4o\$41b6o\$40b2ob4o\$41b2o3\$41b2o\$39bo6bo\$38bo8bo\$38bo8bo\$38b9o3\$42b
4o\$41b6o\$40b2ob4o\$41b2o!``````

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### Re: Black holes in CGOL

bibunsekibun wrote:
December 26th, 2022, 4:32 am
If there are black holes, are there also white holes?
In other words, the internal pattern cannot be interfered with from the outside, and all the internal patterns are emitted to the outside.
This is a prototype I made.

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``````x = 502, y = 529, rule = LifeHistory
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The central red part is the singularity of White Hole. Objects that enter the interior are converted into a glider and bounced off. It also repels intrusion from the outside.
The problem is that the glider may not be able to decompose the internal patterns, in which case the structure will be destroyed. This can also occur when repelling spaceships attempting to enter from the outside.
Generally nope. You can’t distinguish 2 sparks from each other once the white hole became 6x6.
For ones with bounding box smaller than 6x6, if you’re trying to make the information out of it, then the retriever of the hole constructed with still lives must be very close to the pattern, and it must generate different ashes which an identifier can use to rebuild the pattern. This machine would eventually recreate the set of still lives that first died with their honorable achievements of extracting some informations from a pattern, but can never see the identification result. Kinda reminds me of a Chinese sci-fi book named “朝闻道” (OK I’ll stop. It’s too far from what I’m originally talking about)
Actually, since it can’t process another pattern while in it’s ‘repeat time’ of regenerating the retriever, there will never be a complete fast white hole with retrivablilty of more than 2x2. Probably possible with 1x1 or 2x2, I think?
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something useless:

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`````` #CXRLE Pos=-8,-6
x = 11, y = 10, rule = B3/S23
5bo\$6bo\$4b3o\$9b2o\$9b2o3\$3o\$2bo\$bo!
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### Re: Black holes in CGOL

Here's an improved white hole prototype:

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``````#CXRLE Pos=24,-7 Gen=990
x = 304, y = 521, rule = LifeHistory
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2AB3.B2A2B\$29.2A.B2AB3.B2AB.2A5.2A5.2A\$33.2A5.2A!
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``````x = 192, y = 53, rule = B3/S23
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### Re: Black holes in CGOL

Technically, the definition of a white hole is a time-reversed black hole. In other words, it is a causally disconnected piece of space-time which is impossible to enter without traveling faster than c. There is no rule saying objects inside a white hole must exit, only that the flow of information must not point inwards. Information can leave, but it does not have to, just as black holes don't require everything in the observable universe to enter them. Would such a white hole be easier to construct? Would it still be impossible?

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``````x = 36, y = 28, rule = TripleLife
17.G\$17.3G\$20.G\$19.2G11\$9.EF\$8.FG.GD\$8.DGAGF\$10.DGD5\$2.2G\$3.G30.2G\$3G
25.2G5.G\$G27.G.G.3G\$21.2G7.G.G\$21.2G7.2G!
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### Re: Black holes in CGOL

Wyirm wrote:
January 24th, 2023, 3:40 pm
Would such a white hole be easier to construct? Would it still be impossible?
They both seem pretty much equally unlikely to exist, at least to me -- to the point where I wouldn't even know how to start thinking about trying to build one that would work. There are always going to be so many highly inviting points of attack, for getting information into a candidate white hole.

As a quick example, here's hotcrystal0's latest white hole prototype. I'll just start adding gliders until I get through the protective layer...

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``````x = 513, y = 527, rule = LifeHistory
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So three gliders is plenty, and two is probably enough, and most likely one glider is actually all you need to breach that perimeter. That's even ignoring the glider sources, which might be the obvious points of attack -- I didn't bother trying to harden the top and bottom against outside radiation, so it wouldn't have been fair to attack there.

I don't really understand what the red diamond area is about, but if I'm supposed to attack there, I will be able to get through with no problem -- it just might take a few more gliders.

squareroot12621
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### Re: Black holes in CGOL

dvgrn wrote:
January 24th, 2023, 3:54 pm
…and most likely one glider is actually all you need to breach that perimeter.…
Correct.

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2A5.2A!``````
(The last twin bees shuttle is destroyed at generation 14,415.)
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``````x = 70, y = 7, rule = B34w/S02-n3
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9bobo\$28bo6bo2bo28bobo\$28bo7b2o29bobo\$68bo! [[ THEME Mono ]]``````