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amling questionable searches/ideas firehose

Post by amling » May 27th, 2023, 5:13 pm

I have enough terrible ideas and run enough terrible searches that I'm a little reticent to pollute the main thread with them all. Instead I'm gonna start dumping them here, no matter how half-baked they are. If this thread is just me howling into the void alone I can accept that, but if my two most common co-conspirators skim even 10% of this and engage if they have any ideas that would be glorious...

EDIT: It occurs to me that I'm not sure what the etiquette would normally be on this sort of thing but anyone should feel absolutely 100% free to make off with and any of these ideas to finish, alter, or extend them. In fact, I'm mostly making this thread to try to encourage others to do that sort of thing. I aspire to be an anti-hoarder of GoL ideas.
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Re: amling questionable searches/ideas firehose

Post by amling » May 27th, 2023, 5:26 pm

amling wrote:
May 24th, 2023, 7:08 pm
HartmutHolzwart wrote:
May 16th, 2023, 1:50 am
Did you also post steeper decents for c/5 greyships that I forgot about?
I had decided I would try a few things here...

(1) Run an LGOL f2b search from the most common joint. This would at least detect cycles to find completely self-contained components. This is how I've found most of my earlier greyship stuff and tends to find long, thin components (maybe not the best when looking for a steep component).
I did post two results from this on the main thread. The widest search I ran stopped here:

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My real problem here is I don't have a good way to distinguish interesting partials to output them. LGOL can find cycles which correspond to standalone components but I don't think I'm gonna get that lucky here.

I've sketched hacks for LLSSS to detect a split similar to the two results I put on the main thread (where the "left" is a common joint and the "right" is whatever that then has to be solved to the side) but there are still serious problems. Mainly LLSSS recentering displays ends as (a) a full connected graph of pieces that can be stitched together, which is extremely difficult to read and (b) the thinnest possible result which isn't really what we want when looking for steep backs. I did spot the shallower of the two main thread results in its output, but not the other:

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The last running search is from the "all blanks" joint. The last width to have finished so far did find these two candidates...

Would-be 10c/79:

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Would-be 16c/129:

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I am not sure if the next width up will get anywhere before filling memory. Either way I will make a note to follow up on these two candidates.

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Re: amling questionable searches/ideas firehose

Post by amling » May 27th, 2023, 6:24 pm

Another sketchy idea has been to try to split and turn out some version of this 2c/5 p11 wick. Nothing got very far, two possible partials:

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x = 33, y = 84, rule = B3/S23
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4bobo4b3o!
I of course have full 5-generation versions of them if anyone wants them, but they don't seem very good and I'm not sure if 2c/5 searches to complete these have any hope.

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Re: amling questionable searches/ideas firehose

Post by amling » May 28th, 2023, 12:06 am

amling wrote:
May 27th, 2023, 5:26 pm
Would-be 10c/79:

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I am not sure if the next width up will get anywhere before filling memory. Either way I will make a note to follow up on these two candidates.
The former is just too crowded. The latter produced modest partials s2s, but I could not solve it, at least not quickly. It is painful to stitch partials back together to show in just one generation, but here is what was probably the best:

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x = 262, y = 195, rule = B3/S23
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b2o$11bo2bo2bobo$10b18o!

amling
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Re: amling questionable searches/ideas firehose

Post by amling » May 28th, 2023, 12:15 am

I gave a similar treatment to c/6, specifically I guessed up "common" joints in the style of the common c/5 joint and ran searches from these as well as the "all blanks" joint. Each of these were set to output splits with a known joint. The results are many, the most probable-looking of which are:

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| *.*.*.*.*.*.**.......... | *.*.*.*.*.*.**.......... | *.*.*.*.*.*.**.......... | *.*.*.*.*.*.**.......... | *.*.*.*.*.*.**.......... | *.*.*.*.*.*..*.......... |
| *.*.*.*.*.*..*.......... | *.*.*.*.*.*..*.......... | *.*.*.*.*.*...*......... | *.*.*.*.*.*...*......... | *.*.*.*.*..*.*.......... | *.*.*.*.*..*.*.......... |
| *.*.*.*.*.*.*........... | *.*.*.*.*.*.**.......... | *.*.*.*.*.*...*......... | *.*.*.*.*............... | *.*.*.*.*............... | *.*.*.*.**.............. |
| *.*.*.*.**..*........... | *.*.*.*.**..**.......... | *.*.*.*.*............... | *.*.*.*.*............... | *.*.*.*.*............... | *.*.*.*.*...*........... |
| *.*.*.*.....*........... | *.*.*.*.*...*........... | *.*.*.*.**.............. | *.*.*.*.**..*........... | *.*.*.*.**.***.......... | *.*.*.*.*****........... |
| *.*.*.*.*.*.**.......... | *.*.*.*....***.......... | *.*.*.*....***.......... | *.*.*.*....***.......... | *.*.*.*...*............. | *.*.*.*...*..*.......... |
| *.*.*.*................. | *.*.*.*................. | *.*.*.*.....*........... | *.*.*.*....***.......... | *.*.*.*...*..*.......... | *.*.*..*.***............ |
| *.*.*.**................ | *.*.*.**................ | *.*.*.**................ | *.*.*.**...*............ | *.*.*...*..*............ | *.*.*..***.**........... |
| *.*.*....*..*........... | *.*.*.....*.*........... | *.*.*.*...*.*........... | *.*.*.**.**............. | *.*.*..*.*.*............ | *.*.*.**...*............ |
| *.*.*.....***........... | *.*.**....***........... | *.*.**...**.*........... | *.*.**...**............. | *.*.***.***............. | *.*.****................ |
| *.*.*................... J *.*.......*............. J *.*.......*............. J *.*..................... J *.*......*.............. J *.*...*...*............. |
J *.*.......*............. J *.*..................... J *.*.......**............ J *.*......*.*............ J *.*...*.*............... J *.*...*****............. |
J *.*...*...*............. | *.**......**............ | *.**..*..*.*............ | *.**.***.*.*............ | *.**.*.*.*.*............ | *.**...*.*.............. |
| *.*......**............. | *.*..***.***............ | *....**.*............... | *.....**..*............. | *......*.**............. | *.*.*..*................ |
| *.*.*.**..*............. |                          |                          |                          |                          |                          |
The first is with a joint analogous to the c/5 joint, the rest are the all-blanks joint. To go from here to c/6 component you'd have to solve the right side of the split in the limit space available which seems like a very tall order, at least for my limited willpower, skills, and computing power. I may try a quick s2s search and post a partial later...

EDIT: Nope nope nope, c/6 is just so hard. This s2s search cleared its edges to become a normal s2s search but a c/6 s2s search is just so much to ask for!

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x = 200, y = 190, rule = B3/S23
199o2$199o2$199o2$199o2$199o2$199o2$199o2$198o$198bo$197obo$196bob2o$
194o5bo$192bobo$190o3bo3bobo$189bo8bo$189o3bo$188bo3b3o$187o3b2o3bo$
189bobo3bo$185o$184bo2bob2ob3obo$182o3b4ob2ob2o$182bo4b2o2bob2o$181obo
4b2obob2obo$180bob2o$178o4b2o3b10o$178bo3bo$174o3bo4bo$173bo8bo$174o2b
o$172b2o2b3o$170o3b3obobo$175bo$169o3b2ob5o$168bo2bob2obob2o$166o3bo$
166bo12bo$165obo4b3ob3o$164bo8bo3b2o$162o9b10o$159bo2bo2b2o$158o7b3o$
158bo$156o2bobo$162bo$153o3b2obobo$153bo2bo6bo$153o3b2o5bo$152b2o3b2ob
o2bo$150o12b2o$150bo5bo3bo$149o7b3ob2o$148b2o5bo5b2o$146o3bo5b10o$143b
obo3bobo$143o6bobo$142b2o6bo$139o4bo$138b8o$137o3b2o4bo$137bobo2bo3bo$
136o4bobo3b3o$136b2o2b3o4b2o$134o7bobob3o$140bo2b2obo$133o6b3ob2obo$
133bo12b2o$128obo3bo5b10o$129bo2b2o$126o2bo4bobo$124bo2bo6bo$123obo$
122bo4b3o$122o6bobo$123bo2bo2b2o$120ob4ob2o2bobo$119b2o3bo2bobo$117o
10bobo2bo$117bo5bo$117o6b6obo$115bobo5bobobob4o$111obo4b2o4b10o$111bob
o2b2o$110o2bo3b2o$118bo$107o4bo$106b2o3b3o$107o7bo$107b4obobo$104ob2ob
ob2o2b2o$103b4ob2obob3o$101o$101bo5bobo3bo$100obo4b2obob2obo$99bob2o4b
obobo2bo$97o5bo3b10o$95bobo$93o3bo3bobo$92bo8bo$92o3bo$91bo3b3o$90o3b
2o3bo$92bobo3bo$88o$87bo2bob2ob3obo$85o3b4ob2ob2o$85bo4b2o2bob2o$84obo
4b2obob2obo$83bob2o$81o4b2o3b10o$81bo3bo$77o3bo4bo$76bo8bo$77o2bo$75b
2o2b3o$73o3b3obobo$78bo$72o3b2ob5o$71bo2bob2obob2o$69o3bo$69bo12bo$68o
bo4b3ob3o$67bo8bo3b2o$65o9b10o$62bo2bo2b2o$61o7b3o$61bo$59o2bobo$65bo$
56o3b2obobo$56bo2bo6bo$56o3b2o5bo$55b2o3b2obo2bo$53o12b2o$53bo5bo3bo$
52o7b3ob2o$51b2o5bo5b2o$49o3bo5b10o$46bobo3bobo$46o6bobo$45b2o6bo$42o
4bo$41b8o$40o3b2o4bo$40bobo2bo3bo$39o4bobo3b3o$39b2o2b3o4b2o$37o7bobob
3o$43bo2b2obo$36o6b3ob2obo$36bo12b2o$31obo3bo5b10o$32bo2b2o$29o2bo4bob
o$27bo2bo6bo$26obo$25bo4b3o$25o6bobo$26bo2bo2b2o$23ob4ob2o2bobo$22b2o
3bo2bobo$20o10bobo2bo$20bo5bo$20o6b6obo$18bobo5bobobob4o$14obo4b2o4b
10o$14bobo2b2o$13o2bo3b2o$21bo$10o4bo$9b2o3b3o$10o7bo$10b4obobo$7ob2ob
ob2o2b2o$6b4ob2obob3o$4o$4bo5bobo3bo$3obo4b2obob2obo$2bob2o4bobobo2bo$
5bo3b10o2$3bobo$4bo!

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Re: amling questionable searches/ideas firehose

Post by amling » June 2nd, 2023, 3:25 am

I think I haven't revisited 2c/6 perpendicular greyships since LLSSS recentering and it occurs to me one of the things we had wanted to do was somehow take advantage of the possibility of c/3 support. LGOL was not super well suited to this as all the existing tricks to manage limited non-period-dividing cells were going to count the perpendicular stripes on the one side toward the non-c/3 cells. LLSSS recentering however builds its view of the world in a way that is quite conducive to this.

I've reworked LLSSS recentering's notion of "inertness" (what it does not count towards its effective window width) to instead be a notion of "closure" (which is what it was actually doing to implement it). So we start with your left bumper, apply whatever closure(s) you've configured, start with right bumper, apply whatever closure(s) you've configured for that side, then do however many totally-arbitrary "middle" steps you've configured and intersect/filter for liveness of whatever we end up with. This lets me, for example, configure one side to do some limited number of c/3-only steps in between the "unlimited U copy" closure that is closuring all-zeros and the arbitrary middle steps that are doing full 2c/6. TBD how to tune all the various knobs (middle step size, c/3 step size, initial rows, etc.) and if I can actually make anything of this.

Do we have any guesses for 2c/6 joint to search from? My best guess is the obvious analog of a certain "all still-life" 2c/4 joint:

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|         |         |         | ....... | ....... | ....... |
| ***.... | ***.... | ***.... | ***.... | ***.... | ***.... |
| ...*... | ...*... | ...*... |         |         |         |
I'm neither sure how we picked that joint for finding 2c/4 perpendicular parts nor whether there is anything better. All the other slices in simplest known 2c/4 perpendicular level edge do not have such an obvious elongation to 2c/6.

amling
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Re: amling questionable searches/ideas firehose

Post by amling » June 2nd, 2023, 1:57 pm

Much earlier someone was asking about making a width-2 chickenwire version of max which seems quite tough. I ran LGOL double-wrapped searches looking for possible front edges at 4c/8 x (2c/4, 2c/5, 2c/6, 2c/7, 2c/8, and 4c/8). No results, but some of the partials for later speeds were longer than I would have expected. Unfortunately a negative result here is a negative result, there is no knob to tweak to make it slower and try harder (I could search even higher period speeds, but 8 is already unlikely to be completable even if I find an edge). Here is the longest 4c/8 x 4c/8 partial:

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x = 68, y = 155, rule = B3/S23
o$o$bo$2o$b2obo$obobo$2b2obo$o3b2o$o4b2obo$bo2bobobo$b3o2b2obo$2o2bo3b
2o$ob3o4b2obo$2bo2bo2bobobo$2o3b3o2b2obo$2o2b2o2bo3b2o$3b2ob3o4b2obo$o
5bo2bo2bobobo$4b2o3b3o2b2obo$4b2o2b2o2bo3b2o$3bo3b2ob3o4b2obo$ob3o5bo
2bo2bobobo$3bo4b2o3b3o2b2obo$2o6b2o2b2o2bo3b2o$3o4bo3b2ob3o4b2obo$2o2b
ob3o5bo2bo2bobobo$bo5bo4b2o3b3o2b2obo$4b2o6b2o2b2o2bo3b2o$bo2b3o4bo3b
2ob3o4b2obo$2ob3o2bob3o5bo2bo2bobobo$5bo5bo4b2o3b3o2b2obo$2bo5b2o6b2o
2b2o2bo3b2o$obo2bo2b3o4bo3b2ob3o4b2obo$bo2b2ob3o2bob3o5bo2bo2bobobo$b
3o5bo5bo4b2o3b3o2b2obo$3bo2bo5b2o6b2o2b2o2bo3b2o$o2b2obo2bo2b3o4bo3b2o
b3o4b2obo$5bo2b2ob3o2bob3o5bo2bo2bobobo$bobob3o5bo5bo4b2o3b3o2b2obo$2o
5bo2bo5b2o6b2o2b2o2bo3b2o$4bo2b2obo2bo2b3o4bo3b2ob3o4b2obo$9bo2b2ob3o
2bob3o5bo2bo2bobobo$b3obobob3o5bo5bo4b2o3b3o2b2obo$b2ob2o5bo2bo5b2o6b
2o2b2o2bo3b2o$bo6bo2b2obo2bo2b3o4bo3b2ob3o4b2obo$o12bo2b2ob3o2bob3o5bo
2bo2bobobo$5b3obobob3o5bo5bo4b2o3b3o2b2obo$3bob2ob2o5bo2bo5b2o6b2o2b2o
2bo3b2o$2b2obo6bo2b2obo2bo2b3o4bo3b2ob3o4b2obo$2b3o12bo2b2ob3o2bob3o5b
o2bo2bobobo$2b2o5b3obobob3o5bo5bo4b2o3b3o2b2obo$bo5bob2ob2o5bo2bo5b2o
6b2o2b2o2bo3b2o$bo4b2obo6bo2b2obo2bo2b3o4bo3b2ob3o4b2obo$bo4b3o12bo2b
2ob3o2bob3o5bo2bo2bobobo$6b2o5b3obobob3o5bo5bo4b2o3b3o2b2obo$bo3bo5bob
2ob2o5bo2bo5b2o6b2o2b2o2bo3b2o$o4bo4b2obo6bo2b2obo2bo2b3o4bo3b2ob3o4b
2obo$2b2obo4b3o12bo2b2ob3o2bob3o5bo2bo2bobobo$3o7b2o5b3obobob3o5bo5bo
4b2o3b3o2b2obo$2bo2bo3bo5bob2ob2o5bo2bo5b2o6b2o2b2o2bo3b2o$2o2bo4bo4b
2obo6bo2b2obo2bo2b3o4bo3b2ob3o4b2obo$2b2o2b2obo4b3o12bo2b2ob3o2bob3o5b
o2bo2bobobo$2o2b3o7b2o5b3obobob3o5bo5bo4b2o3b3o2b2obo$2b2o2bo2bo3bo5bo
b2ob2o5bo2bo5b2o6b2o2b2o2bo3b2o$2o2b2o2bo4bo4b2obo6bo2b2obo2bo2b3o4bo
3b2ob3o4b2obo$2b2o2b2o2b2obo4b3o12bo2b2ob3o2bob3o5bo2bo2bobobo$2o2b2o
2b3o7b2o5b3obobob3o5bo5bo4b2o3b3o2b2obo$2b2o2b2o2bo2bo3bo5bob2ob2o5bo
2bo5b2o6b2o2b2o2bo3b2o$2o2b2o2b2o2bo4bo4b2obo6bo2b2obo2bo2b3o4bo3b2ob
3o4b2o$2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2obo4b3o12bo2b2ob3o2bob3o5bo2bo2bobo$2o2b2o2b2o2b
3o7b2o5b3obobob3o5bo5bo4b2o3b3o2b2o$2b2o2b2o2b2o2bo2bo3bo5bob2ob2o5bo
2bo5b2o6b2o2b2o2bo$2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2bo4bo4b2obo6bo2b2obo2bo2b3o4bo3b2ob
3o$2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2obo4b3o12bo2b2ob3o2bob3o5bo2bo$2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b
3o7b2o5b3obobob3o5bo5bo4b2o3b3o$2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2bo2bo3bo5bob2ob2o5bo
2bo5b2o6b2o2b2o$2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2bo4bo4b2obo6bo2b2obo2bo2b3o4bo3b2ob
2o$2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2obo4b3o12bo2b2ob3o2bob3o5bo$2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b
2o2b3o7b2o5b3obobob3o5bo5bo4b2o$2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2bo2bo3bo5bob2ob2o
5bo2bo5b2o6b2o$2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2bo4bo4b2obo6bo2b2obo2bo2b3o4bo3b
o$2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2obo4b3o12bo2b2ob3o2bob3o$2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b
2o2b2o2b3o7b2o5b3obobob3o5bo5bo$2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2bo2bo3bo5bob
2ob2o5bo2bo5b2o$2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2bo4bo4b2obo6bo2b2obo2bo2b3o
4bo$2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2obo4b3o12bo2b2ob3o2bob2o$2o2b2o2b2o
2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b3o7b2o5b3obobob3o5bo5bo$2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o
2bo2bo3bo5bob2ob2o5bo2bo5b2o$2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2bo4bo4b2ob
o6bo2b2obo2bo2b3o$2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2obo4b3o12bo2b2ob
3o$2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b3o7b2o5b3obobob3o5bo$2b2o2b2o2b2o2b
2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2bo2bo3bo5bob2ob2o5bo2bo$2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o
2b2o2b2o2bo4bo4b2obo6bo2b2obo2bo$2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o
2b2obo4b3o12bo2b2obo$2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b3o7b2o5b3obob
ob3o$2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2bo2bo3bo5bob2ob2o5bo2bo$2o2b
2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2bo4bo4b2obo6bo2b2obo$2b2o2b2o2b2o2b
2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2obo4b3o12bo$2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b
2o2b2o2b2o2b3o7b2o5b3obobob3o$2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o
2bo2bo3bo5bob2ob2o5bo$2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2bo4bo
4b2obo6bo2bo$2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2obo4b3o$2o
2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b3o7b2o5b3obobo$2b2o2b2o2b2o
2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2bo2bo3bo5bob2ob2o$2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o
2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2bo4bo4b2obo$2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o
2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2obo4b3o$2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o
2b2o2b2o2b3o7b2o5b3o$2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o
2bo2bo3bo5bob2o$2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2bo
4bo4b2obo$2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2obo4b
3o$2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b3o7b2o$2b2o2b2o
2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2bo2bo3bo5bo$2o2b2o2b2o2b
2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2bo4bo4b2o$2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o
2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2obo4b2o$2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o
2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b3o7b2o$2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o
2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2bo2bo3bo$2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b
2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2bo4bo$2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o
2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2obo$2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o
2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b3o$2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o
2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2bo2bo$2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o
2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2bo$2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b
2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o$2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o
2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b3o$2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o
2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2bo$2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o
2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o$2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o
2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o$2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b
2o2b2o2b2o2b2o$2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b
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amling
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Re: amling questionable searches/ideas firehose

Post by amling » June 6th, 2023, 5:49 pm

amling wrote:
June 2nd, 2023, 3:25 am
I've reworked LLSSS recentering's notion of "inertness" (what it does not count towards its effective window width) to instead be a notion of "closure" (which is what it was actually doing to implement it). So we start with your left bumper, apply whatever closure(s) you've configured, start with right bumper, apply whatever closure(s) you've configured for that side, then do however many totally-arbitrary "middle" steps you've configured and intersect/filter for liveness of whatever we end up with. This lets me, for example, configure one side to do some limited number of c/3-only steps in between the "unlimited U copy" closure that is closuring all-zeros and the arbitrary middle steps that are doing full 2c/6. TBD how to tune all the various knobs (middle step size, c/3 step size, initial rows, etc.) and if I can actually make anything of this.

Do we have any guesses for 2c/6 joint to search from? My best guess is the obvious analog of a certain "all still-life" 2c/4 joint:

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I'm neither sure how we picked that joint for finding 2c/4 perpendicular parts nor whether there is anything better. All the other slices in simplest known 2c/4 perpendicular level edge do not have such an obvious elongation to 2c/6.
For all my fiddling I didn't really get anywhere. I believe the code works, but even after all my best guess of joints and parameter values for the various limits the longest result I have to show is from a search I could have done with the old code, old-style recentering from joint guessed above with 12 "middle steps":

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x = 45, y = 39, rule = B3/S23
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Re: amling questionable searches/ideas firehose

Post by amling » June 6th, 2023, 11:46 pm

HartmutHolzwart wrote:
May 16th, 2023, 1:50 am
Did you also post steeper decents for c/5 greyships that I forgot about?
I had also decided to try LGOL double-wrapped searches. I've run 2c/N up to N=33 with no results. Some partials are very, very long, but the current steepest slope would require N <= 20 to beat where the partials weren't quite so hot. Long partials aren't really the great anyway since they still have to be solved.

I just now started working through 4c/N and there is already a hit at 4c/16:

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x = 160, y = 155, rule = B3/S23
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obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$24b3ob
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2bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
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obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
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bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo
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bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo
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bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$32b2obo2bo3bobobobobobobobobobobobobobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo
bobobobobobobobobobo$32bo5bo2bo2bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo
bobobobo$37bo3bobo2bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
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2bob4o3bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
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40bo3b2o3b2obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo
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obo$44b3obo4b2obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
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obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobo$44b2o5b2ob2o2bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
o$48b2o4b2ob2obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$48b2o3b2o2bo2bobobobobobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo
bobobobobobobobobo$49bo3bobo3bo2bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$52b2obo2b
o3bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$52bo5bo2bo2bobobobobobobobobobobobobobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$
57bo3bobo2bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$53b2o2bob4o3bobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
o$57b2obo4b2obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$57b3o2bo2bobo2bobobobobobobobobobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo
$58bo3bo7bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$60bo3b2o3b2obobobobobobobobobobobobobobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$62b2o8bob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobo$61bo2b3obo5bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$64b3obo4b2obobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$
66bo2bo3bo2bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobo$64b2o5b2ob2o2bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
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bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo
bobo$68b2o3b2o2bo2bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo
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bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$72b2obo2bo3bobobobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo
$72bo5bo2bo2bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo
bobobobobobobobobo$77bo3bobo2bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$73b2o2bob4o3bobobobobobobobobobobobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$77b2obo4b2obobobobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$77b3o
2bo2bobo2bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobo$78bo3bo7bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo
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obobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$82b2o8bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$81bo2b3obo5bobobobobobobobobobobobo
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bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$86bo2bo3bo2bobobobobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$84b2o5b2ob2o2bo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$88b2o4b2o
b2obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$88b2o
3b2o2bo2bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$
89bo3bobo3bo2bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
o$92b2obo2bo3bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
o$92bo5bo2bo2bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$
97bo3bobo2bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$93b2o
2bob4o3bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$97b2obo
4b2obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$97b3o2bo2bobo
2bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$98bo3bo7bobobobobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$100bo3b2o3b2obobobobobobobobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$102b2o8bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo
bobobobobobobobobo$101bo2b3obo5bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobo$104b3obo4b2obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$106bo
2bo3bo2bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$104b2o5b2ob2o2bobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$108b2o4b2ob2obobobobobobobobobo
bobobobobobobobobobobo$108b2o3b2o2bo2bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobo$109bo3bobo3bo2bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$112b2obo
2bo3bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$112bo5bo2bo2bobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobo$117bo3bobo2bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$
113b2o2bob4o3bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$117b2obo4b2obobobobobo
bobobobobobobobobobobo$117b3o2bo2bobo2bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$
118bo3bo7bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$120bo3b2o3b2obobobobobobobobob
obobobobobo$122b2o8bobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$121bo2b3obo5bobobobobo
bobobobobobobobo$124b3obo4b2obobobobobobobobobobobobo$126bo2bo3bo2bobo
bobobobobobobobobobo$124b2o5b2ob2o2bobobobobobobobobobobo$128b2o4b2ob
2obobobobobobobobobobo$128b2o3b2o2bo2bobobobobobobobobobo$129bo3bobo3b
o2bobobobobobobobobo$132b2obo2bo3bobobobobobobobobo$132bo5bo2bo2bobobo
bobobobobo$137bo3bobo2bobobobobobobo$133b2o2bob4o3bobobobobobobo$137b
2obo4b2obobobobobobo$137b3o2bo2bobo2bobobobobo$138bo3bo7bobobobobo$
140bo3b2o3b2obobobobo$142b2o8bobobobo$141bo2b3obo5bobobo$144b3obo4b2ob
obo$146bo2bo3bo2bobo$144b2o5b2ob2o2bo$148b2o4b2ob2o$148b2o3b2o2bo$149b
o3bobo3bo$152b2obo2bo$152bo5bo$157bo$153b2o2bobo$157b2o$157b3o$158bo!
I will probably continue poking around in other double-wrapped searches before moving on to trying to connect it up with known edges. I will eventually stop reiterating this on this thread, but anyone should feel free to scoop me and solve this themselves. The glory is in the result existing, not in the process.

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Re: amling questionable searches/ideas firehose

Post by HartmutHolzwart » June 7th, 2023, 5:54 am

Great find.

Not sure I understand your terminology. I would see a steep decent grey ship component of speed c/5 with the grain and 4c/16 against the grain.

If ever you can show some of your longer partials, I would be interested to understand your method!

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Re: amling questionable searches/ideas firehose

Post by HartmutHolzwart » June 7th, 2023, 7:03 am

amling wrote:
June 6th, 2023, 5:49 pm
amling wrote:
June 2nd, 2023, 3:25 am
I've reworked LLSSS recentering's notion of "inertness" (what it does not count towards its effective window width) to instead be a notion of "closure" (which is what it was actually doing to implement it). So we start with your left bumper, apply whatever closure(s) you've configured, start with right bumper, apply whatever closure(s) you've configured for that side, then do however many totally-arbitrary "middle" steps you've configured and intersect/filter for liveness of whatever we end up with. This lets me, for example, configure one side to do some limited number of c/3-only steps in between the "unlimited U copy" closure that is closuring all-zeros and the arbitrary middle steps that are doing full 2c/6. TBD how to tune all the various knobs (middle step size, c/3 step size, initial rows, etc.) and if I can actually make anything of this.

Do we have any guesses for 2c/6 joint to search from? My best guess is the obvious analog of a certain "all still-life" 2c/4 joint:

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|         |         |         | ....... | ....... | ....... |
| ***.... | ***.... | ***.... | ***.... | ***.... | ***.... |
| ...*... | ...*... | ...*... |         |         |         |
I'm neither sure how we picked that joint for finding 2c/4 perpendicular parts nor whether there is anything better. All the other slices in simplest known 2c/4 perpendicular level edge do not have such an obvious elongation to 2c/6.
For all my fiddling I didn't really get anywhere. I believe the code works, but even after all my best guess of joints and parameter values for the various limits the longest result I have to show is from a search I could have done with the old code, old-style recentering from joint guessed above with 12 "middle steps":

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|                  |                  |                  | ................ | ................ | ................ |
| **.............. | **.............. | **.............. | **.............. | **.............. | **.............. |
| ..*............. | ..*............. | ..*............. | ..*............. | ..*............. | ..**............ |
| ***............. | ***............. | ***............. | ***............. | ***.*........... | ***.**.......... |
| ...**........... | ...**........... | ...**........... | ...***.......... | ...***.......... | ....**.......... |
| ***..*.......... | ***..*.......... | ***..**......... | ***...*......... | ***...*......... | ***...**........ |
| ....*........... | ...*.**......... | ...***.*........ | ...***.*........ | ...***.**....... | ...***..*....... |
| ***...**........ | ***...**........ | ***....*........ | ***....**....... | ***....**....... | ***....**....... |
| ...***..*....... | ...***..*....... | ...***..*....... | ...***..*....... | ...***.......... | ...***.......... |
| ***...***....... | ***...***....... | ***...***....... | ***...****...... | ***...*****..... | ***...*****..... |
| ...***.......... | ...***.......... | ...***....*..... | ...***....**.... | ...***.....*.... | ...**......*.... |
| ***...*****..... | ***...******.... | ***...******.... | ***...******.... | ***..*****.*.... | ***..****..**... |
| ...**......**... | ...*.*......*... | ...*.*.......... | ...*............ | ...*.......*.... | ...***....*..... |
| ***...**..***... | ***...**..*..... | ***....*..*.*... | ***..*.*..*..... | ***..*.*........ | ***............. |
| ...***.*...*.... | ...***.*..***... | ...***.*****.... | ...**.**....*... | ...**......*.... | ...***.**....... |
| ***...*......... | ***.....*....... | ***.....*..*.... | ***..*.**..*.... | ***..*.**....... | ***..***........ |
| ...***.**....... | ...*****........ | ...**........... | ...*............ | ...**.*......... | ...*****........ |
| ***............. | ***..****....... | ***.....*....... | ***..*.......... | ***............. | ***............. |
| ...**..*........ | ...*............ | ...***.*........ | ...**........... | ...***.......... | ...***.......... |
| ***............. | ***..*.......... | ***............. | ***...*......... | ***..*.......... | ***..*.......... |
| ...***.......... | ...**........... | ...***.......... | ...**........... | ...*.*.*........ | ...***.*........ |
| ***............. | ***...*..**..... | ***......**..... | ***...*.*..*.... | ***...*.*..**... | ***.....*****... |
| ...****.****.... | ...***...*..*... | ...****.****.... | ...***.**..**... | ...****.**.**... | ...****.**...*.. |
| ***.......***... | ***....*....*... | ***.....*...**.. | ***.....*...*... | ***........**... | ***....***.**... |
| ...****......*.. | ...****..*...*.. | ...****..**..... | ...*******...... | ...****..*...... | ...***.......... |
| ***....*.**.*... | ***....****..... | ***....*........ | ***....**....... | ***............. | ***....**....... |
| ...**.*..*...... | ...****..**..... | ...*****........ | ...***.**....... | ...**.**.*...... | ...*..**.*...... |
| ***..*.**....... | ***..*...*...... | ***....*........ | ***......*...... | ***....***...... | ***.......*..... |
| ...*..**.*...... | ...**.**.**..... | ....***.***..... | ....***...*..... | ....******...... | ....*.....*..... |
| ****.....**..... | ****.......*.... | *****...**.*.... | *****..**....... | *****.***.*..... | ****......*..... |
| .........***.... | .........*.*.... | ................ | .........**..... | .....*..***..... | .....**......... |
| ******.......... | ******...*...... | *******...*..... | ******....*..... | *****...*.**.... | *****.....**.... |
| .....*....**.... | .....**......... | ........***..... | .......**.*..... | .......**....... | .....*.**....... |
| *****..*........ | *****.***.**.... | *****...**...... | ******.**....... | ******..*.**.... | *******.**.*.... |
| .......**..*.... | .......**....... | .....**...*..... | .....**...**.... | ......*.....*... | ......**.**.*... |
| *****......*.... | *****...*.*.*... | *****..***.**... | *****...*****... | ****..*..*..*... | ***...**...***.. |
| ....*....*...*.. | .....*.....*.*.. | .....***.....*.. | ....**.......... | .....**.....*... | ...**..*.*...... |
| ****.*...*.***.. | ****.**.*.**.*.. | ***....*.***.... | ***..*.*.**.*... | ***..**..*****.. | *****..*........ |
| ....**.*....*... | .....**...*..... | ...*..*..*...*.. | ...**...**..**.. |                  |                  |
| ***.*......*.*.. |                  |                  |                  |                  |                  |

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x = 45, y = 39, rule = B3/S23
33o$33bo$34o$34b2o$34o2bo$35bo$34o3b2o$34b3o2bo$34o3b3o$34b3o$34o3b5o$
34b2o6b2o$34o3b2o2b3o$34b3obo3bo$34o3bo$34b3ob2o$34o$34b2o2bo$34o$34b
3o$34o$34b4ob4o$34o7b3o$34b4o6bo$34o4bob2obo$34b2obo2bo$34o2bob2o$34bo
2b2obo$35o5b2o$40b3o$37o$36bo4b2o$36o2bo$38b2o2bo$36o6bo$35bo4bo3bo$
35obo3bob3o$35b2obo4bo$34obo6bobo!
I was imagining searching with a fixed width chanel between the agar on the one side and an unknown border of strictly p3 c/3 cells on the other (where we have two rows of p3 in between). In a second step, one would then try to complete the p3 part with ordinary p3 c/3 searches. I implemented something like this as a lifersc hack years ago and used it to find an 3c/6 block eater (the one in jslife). Unfortunately, I lost the sources in a hard disk crash and never got around to reimplementing it.

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Re: amling questionable searches/ideas firehose

Post by amling » June 7th, 2023, 12:43 pm

HartmutHolzwart wrote:
June 7th, 2023, 5:54 am
Great find.

Not sure I understand your terminology. I would see a steep decent grey ship component of speed c/5 with the grain and 4c/16 against the grain.

If ever you can show some of your longer partials, I would be interested to understand your method!
The amling search program principles brain dump thread contains a lot of details about LGOL, but mainly a "double wrapped" search is one where I've set it to search for a pattern that repeats with two different periods. In this case one "period" is (0, -1, 5), or "c/5 north" so it will find a pattern that moves north at c/5. In these searches I am varying the other period. The result above was found with a second period of (4, 0, 16) or "4c/16 east".

Here is an example partial, (one phase of) the longest partial from 2c/19:

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x = 80, y = 203, rule = B3/S23
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobo$obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobo$obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$obobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$obobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$obobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobo$obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobo$obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$obobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
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obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$obobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$
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obobobobo$2bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobo$2bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$2bobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$b2obobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$b2obobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$
bo2bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobo$o3bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo
bobobobobobobobobo$2bo3bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobo$2o4bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$3b2obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$o2bobo2bobobobobobobobobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$o7bobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$2b4o2bobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$2b
5obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo
bobo$o4bobo2bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo
bobobobobobo$o2b2o2bob2obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo
bobobobobobobobobobobo$3b2o3bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$2ob2o5bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$5o4bo2bobobobobobobobobobobobobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$b2o2bob3o2bobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$2b2o3bo2bobobobobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$b2o4bo4bo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$o6b
o3b2obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
o$2o6b2ob2obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobo$obo2bo3bobo2bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo
bobobobobobobobo$3b3o2b3o3bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo
bobobobobobobobobobobo$obobo4bo2bo3bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$obo7b2o4bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$obob2obo5b2obobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$b2obo2bo2bo2bobo2bobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$b2obob2o2bo7bobobobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$2bobob2o4b4o2bo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$2bobob3o
3b5obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$b2o
3bo2b2o4bobo2bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obo$3o3bo3bo2b2o2bob2obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo
bobobobobo$4bobo6b2o3bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobo$2bobo5b2ob2o5bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobo$bo6bob5o4bo2bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo
bobobobobobobobobo$bo2b2o2b2ob2o2bob3o2bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobo$bo2bo7b2o3bo2bobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$5bobo3b2o4bo4bobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$3b5o2bo6bo3b2obobobobobobobobobobobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$4bob2o2b2o6b2ob2obobobobobobobobobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$6bobobobo2bo3bobo2bobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$4b2o3bo3b3o2b3o3bobobobobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$5bo4bobobo4bo2bo3bobobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$5b2o3bobo7b2o4bobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$6bobobobob2obo5b2obobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$8bo2b2obo2bo2bo2bob
o2bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$11b2obob2o2bo7b
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$8b2o2bobob2o4b4o2b
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$12bobob3o3b5obobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$8b2ob2o3bo2b2o4bobo2bo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$9b4o3bo3bo2b2o2bob2ob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$14bobo6b2o3bobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$12bobo5b2ob2o5bobobobobobobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$11bo6bob5o4bo2bobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$11bo2b2o2b2ob2o2bob3o2bobobobobobobobobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$11bo2bo7b2o3bo2bobobobobobobobobobobobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobo$15bobo3b2o4bo4bobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobo$13b5o2bo6bo3b2obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobo$14bob2o2b2o6b2ob2obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo
bobobo$16bobobobo2bo3bobo2bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo
bo$14b2o3bo3b3o2b3o3bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$15b
o4bobobo4bo2bo3bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$15b2o3bobo
7b2o4bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$16bobobobob2obo5b2ob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$18bo2b2obo2bo2bo2bobo2bobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$21b2obob2o2bo7bobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobo$18b2o2bobob2o4b4o2bobobobobobobobobobobobobo
bobobobobobobobo$22bobob3o3b5obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo
bo$18b2ob2o3bo2b2o4bobo2bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$19b4o
3bo3bo2b2o2bob2obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$24bobo6b2o3bobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$22bobo5b2ob2o5bobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobo$21bo6bob5o4bo2bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo
bobobo$21bo2b2o2b2ob2o2bob3o2bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$
21bo2bo7b2o3bo2bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$25bobo3b2o4bo
4bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$23b5o2bo6bo3b2obobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobo$24bob2o2b2o6b2ob2obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo
bobobo$26bobobobo2bo3bobo2bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$24b2o3b
o3b3o2b3o3bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$25bo4bobobo4bo2bo3bobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$25b2o3bobo7b2o4bobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobo$26bobobobob2obo5b2obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$28bo2b
2obo2bo2bo2bobo2bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$31b2obob2o2bo7bobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobo$28b2o2bobob2o4b4o2bobobobobobobobobobobobobo
bobobo$32bobob3o3b5obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$28b2ob2o3bo2b2o4b
obo2bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$29b4o3bo3bo2b2o2bob2obobobobobobobo
bobobobobobobo$34bobo6b2o3bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$32bobo5b2ob
2o5bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$31bo6bob5o4bo2bobobobobobobobobobobo
bobobo$31bo2b2o2b2ob2o2bob3o2bobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$31bo2bo7b2o
3bo2bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$35bobo3b2o4bo4bobobobobobobobobobob
obobobo$33b5o2bo6bo3b2obobobobobobobobobobobobobo$34bob2o2b2o6b2ob2obo
bobobobobobobobobobobobo$36bobobobo2bo3bobo2bobobobobobobobobobobobobo
$34b2o3bo3b3o2b3o3bobobobobobobobobobobobobo$35bo4bobobo4bo2bo3bobobob
obobobobobobobobo$35b2o3bobo7b2o4bobobobobobobobobobobobo$36bobobobob
2obo5b2obobobobobobobobobobobobo$38bo2b2obo2bo2bo2bobo2bobobobobobobob
obobobo$41b2obob2o2bo7bobobobobobobobobobobo$38b2o2bobob2o4b4o2bobobob
obobobobobobobo$42bobob3o3b5obobobobobobobobobobobo$38b2ob2o3bo2b2o4bo
bo2bobobobobobobobobobo$39b4o3bo3bo2b2o2bob2obobobobobobobobobo$44bobo
6b2o3bobobobobobobobobobobo$42bobo5b2ob2o5bobobobobobobobobobo$41bo6bo
b5o4bo2bobobobobobobobobo$41bo2b2o2b2ob2o2bob3o2bobobobobobobobobo$41b
o2bo7b2o3bo2bobobobobobobobobobo$45bobo3b2o4bo4bobobobobobobobobo$43b
5o2bo6bo3b2obobobobobobobobo$44bob2o2b2o6b2ob2obobobobobobobobo$46bobo
bobo2bo3bobo2bobobobobobobobo$44b2o3bo3b3o2b3o3bobobobobobobobo$45bo4b
obobo4bo2bo3bobobobobobobo$45b2o3bobo7b2o4bobobobobobobo$46bobobobob2o
bo5b2obobobobobobobo$48bo2b2obo2bo2bo2bobo2bobobobobobo$51b2obob2o2bo
7bobobobobobo$48b2o2bobob2o4b4o2bobobobobobo$52bobob3o3b5obobobobobobo
$48b2ob2o3bo2b2o4bobo2bobobobobo$49b4o3bo3bo2b2o2bob2obobobobo$54bobo
6b2o3bobobobobobo$52bobo5b2ob2o5bobobobobo$51bo6bob5o4bo2bobobobo$51bo
2b2o2b2ob2o2bob3o2bobobobo$51bo2bo7b2o3bo2bobobobobo$55bobo3b2o4bo4bob
obobo$53b5o2bo6bo3b2obobobo$54bob2o2b2o6b2ob2obobobo$56bobobobo2bo3bob
o2bobobo$54b2o3bo3b3o2b3o3bobobo$55bo4bobobo4bo2bo3bobo$55b2o3bobo7b2o
4bobo$56bobobobob2obo5b2obobo$58bo2b2obo2bo2bo2bobo2bo$61b2obob2o2bo7b
o$58b2o2bobob2o4b4o2bo$62bobob3o3b5obo$58b2ob2o3bo2b2o4bobo$59b4o3bo3b
o2b2o2bobo$64bobo6b2o3bo$62bobo5b2ob2o$61bo6bob5o4bo$61bo2b2o2b2ob2o2b
ob3o$61bo2bo7b2o3bo$65bobo3b2o4bo$63b5o2bo6bo$64bob2o2b2o6b2o$66bobobo
bo2bo3bo$64b2o3bo3b3o2b2o$65bo4bobobo4bo$65b2o3bobo$66bobobobob2obo$
68bo2b2obo2bo$71b2obob2o$68b2o2bobob2o$72bobob3o$68b2ob2o3bo2bo$69b4o
3bo$74bobo$72bobo$71bo6bo$71bo2b2o2b2o$71bo2bo$75bobo$73b5o$74bob2o$
76bobo$74b2o3bo$75bo$75b2o$76bobo$78bo2$78b2o2$78b2o$79bo!
It's probably not long enough to really verify the 2c/19 itself, but you can see c/5 and (-2, -4, 1) directly (which generate the same rank 2 lattice of translations).

I've focused on searching this way because it's a trick LGOL can do and it's exhaustive in a sense, but it can only really find backs which have a small second period (and are thus often quite thick).

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Re: amling questionable searches/ideas firehose

Post by amling » June 7th, 2023, 1:04 pm

HartmutHolzwart wrote:
June 7th, 2023, 7:03 am
I was imagining searching with a fixed width chanel between the agar on the one side and an unknown border of strictly p3 c/3 cells on the other (where we have two rows of p3 in between). In a second step, one would then try to complete the p3 part with ordinary p3 c/3 searches. I implemented something like this as a lifersc hack years ago and used it to find an 3c/6 block eater (the one in jslife). Unfortunately, I lost the sources in a hard disk crash and never got around to reimplementing it.
Ah, LlsssEdgePd (with LlsssEdgeAny) I think can do that, but my recollection is I've never gotten a search with any variant of LlsssEdgeAny to not explode and fill memory instantly. I'm also slightly pessimistic about being able to extend an arbitrary, possible-quite-long 2-column slice of c/3 into a complete pattern.

A search done in a very different way a long time back had found a result that meets that sort of description:

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x = 42, y = 44, rule = B3/S23
32o2b3o4bo$32b2o2bo$32o6b3o$32b2o3b5o$32o2bo5b2o$32b3ob2ob2o$32o9bo$
32b2o3bo$32o2b3o$32b4o3bo$32o2bob3ob2o$32b5o4bo$32o4bo$32bo5b3o$32o5b
5o$32b3o5b2o$32o2bob2ob2o$32bo8bo$32o5bo$32b5o$32o2b2o3bo$32bo3b3ob2o$
32o2b3o4bo$32b2o2bo$32o6b3o$32b2o3b5o$32o2bo5b2o$32b3ob2ob2o$32o9bo$
32b2o3bo$32o2b3o$32b4o3bo$32o2bob3ob2o$32b5o4bo$32o4bo$32bo5b3o$32o5b
5o$32b3o5b2o$32o2bob2ob2o$32bo8bo$32o5bo$32b5o$32o2b2o3bo$32bo3b3ob2o!
This should be considered entirely as 4c/1 north (0, -4, 1). On the west side where it meets the agar it is spatial period 22 (0, 22, 0) which, mod 4c/1 north, is equivalent to 2c/6 north (0, -2, 6). On the east side where it is incomplete it is spatial period 11 (0, 11, 0) which, mod 4c/1 north, is equivalent to c/3 north (0, -1, 3). I'm not sure how hard I tried to solve the c/3 side of it. I probably only verified it does not have a solution which is also spatial period 11 and c/3 north.

This search [project] was all LGOL double-wrapped searches, 2c/6 and varying f2b-like second period, searched s2s-like to try to find a period reduction to c/3 for a 2c/6 perpendicular stripes agar edge. There were some other results but they are even harder to show as they're slanted.

Here is an example connection to parallel stripes (so it's a complete edge and I can just show one generation):

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x = 56, y = 122, rule = B3/S23
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$obobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$obobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobo$obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobo$obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$obobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$obobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobo$obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobo$obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$obobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$obobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobo$obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobo$obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$obobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$obobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobo$obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobo$obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$obobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$obobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobo$obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobo$obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$obobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$obobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobo$obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobo$obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$obobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$obobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobo$obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobo$obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$bo2bobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$4bobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobo$bob2obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobo$ob2o2bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$ob
o2b2obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$2bo3bobobobobobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$ob2ob3obo2bobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobo$o2bob2o5bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo
bobobo$2o2bobo2bob2obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$2o3b2ob
ob2o2bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$bo5b2obo2b2obobobobobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$2o5bo2bo3bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo
bobobobobobo$3bo4bob2ob3obo2bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$4o3b
2o2bob2o5bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$6bob2o2bobo2bob2obobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobo$10o3b2obob2o2bobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobo$9bo5b2obo2b2obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$10o5bo2bo3bobobobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobo$11bo4bob2ob3obo2bobobobobobobobobobobobobob
o$12o3b2o2bob2o5bobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$14bob2o2bobo2bob2obobobob
obobobobobobobobobo$18o3b2obob2o2bobobobobobobobobobobobobo$17bo5b2obo
2b2obobobobobobobobobobobobo$18o5bo2bo3bobobobobobobobobobobobobo$19bo
4bob2ob3obo2bobobobobobobobobobo$20o3b2o2bob2o5bobobobobobobobobobo$
22bob2o2bobo2bob2obobobobobobobobobo$26o3b2obob2o2bobobobobobobobobo$
25bo5b2obo2b2obobobobobobobobo$26o5bo2bo3bobobobobobobobobo$27bo4bob2o
b3obo2bobobobobobo$28o3b2o2bob2o5bobobobobobo$30bob2o2bobo2bob2obobobo
bobo$34o3b2obob2o2bobobobobo$33bo5b2obo2b2obobobobo$34o5bo2bo3bobobobo
bo$35bo4bob2ob3obo2bobo$36o3b2o2bob2o5bobo$38bob2o2bobo2bob2obo$42o3b
2obob2o2bo$41bo5b2obo2b2o$42o5bo2bo3bo$43bo4bob2ob3o$44o3b2o2bob2o$46b
ob2o2bobo$50o3b2o$49bo5bo$50o5bo$51bo$52o3bo$54bo$56o2$56o2$56o2$56o2$
56o2$56o2$56o2$56o2$56o2$56o2$56o2$56o2$56o2$56o2$56o2$56o2$56o2$56o!
In the end I gave up on the project because those that reduced to c/3 but not to parallel stripes seemed like they were going to be very tough to solve into edges and all of it seemed utterly hopeless to solve corners for eventually given how thick and complex they were getting.
Last edited by amling on June 8th, 2023, 4:37 am, edited 1 time in total.

amling
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Re: amling questionable searches/ideas firehose

Post by amling » June 7th, 2023, 2:46 pm

amling wrote:
June 6th, 2023, 11:46 pm
(was looking for c/5 greyship backs)

I just now started working through 4c/N and there is already a hit at 4c/16:

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The search had even continued on into empty space and found this wave before I killed it:

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x = 100, y = 82, rule = B3/S23:T100,82-80
o$b2o$3bo$3bo$b2o2b2o$6bo$5b2o$5b2o2b2o$10bo$9bo3bo$9bo4bo$10bo3bo$12b
2ob2o$14b4o$15b4o$19bo$19b2o$18bo2b2o$23bo$23bo$21b2o2b2o$26bo$25b2o$
25b2o2b2o$30bo$29bo3bo$29bo4bo$30bo3bo$32b2ob2o$34b4o$35b4o$39bo$39b2o
$38bo2b2o$43bo$43bo$41b2o2b2o$46bo$45b2o$45b2o2b2o$50bo$49bo3bo$49bo4b
o$50bo3bo$52b2ob2o$54b4o$55b4o$59bo$59b2o$58bo2b2o$63bo$63bo$61b2o2b2o
$66bo$65b2o$65b2o2b2o$70bo$69bo3bo$69bo4bo$70bo3bo$72b2ob2o$74b4o$75b
4o$79bo$79b2o$78bo2b2o$83bo$83bo$81b2o2b2o$86bo$85b2o$85b2o2b2o$90bo$
89bo3bo$89bo4bo$90bo3bo$92b2ob2o$94b4o$95b4o$99bo$99bo$98bo!
Not sure how interested we are in more random c/5 waves. jslife-moving has a few, but not a lot. I will make a note to follow up and try to find wave guides.

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Re: amling questionable searches/ideas firehose

Post by HartmutHolzwart » June 7th, 2023, 3:22 pm

I'm very interested in all of this!

But obviously I'm obsessed with 2c/6 against the grain...

amling
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Re: amling questionable searches/ideas firehose

Post by amling » June 15th, 2023, 8:39 pm

amling wrote:
June 6th, 2023, 11:46 pm
(about c/5 greyship backs)

[T]here is already a hit at 4c/16:

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x = 160, y = 155, rule = B3/S23
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobo$obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$obobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$obobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobo$obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$obobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobo$obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$obobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$obobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobo$obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$obobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobo$obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$obobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$obobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobo$obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$2bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$2bobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$
bo2bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobo$bobo2bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$3o3bobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$o4b2obobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobo$2bo2bobo2bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobo$2bo7bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$o3b2o3b2obobobobobobobobobobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$2b2o8bobobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo
bo$bo2b3obo5bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo
bobobobobobobobobo$4b3obo4b2obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$6bo2bo3bo2bobobobobobobobobobobobobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$4b2o5b2ob2o2bobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$8b2o4b
2ob2obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobo$8b2o3b2o2bo2bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo
bobobobobobobobobo$9bo3bobo3bo2bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$12b2obo2bo3bobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$12bo5bo2bo2bobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$17bo3bobo2bobobobobobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$13b2o2bob4o3bobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$17b2obo4b
2obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$17b3o
2bo2bobo2bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$
18bo3bo7bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$
20bo3b2o3b2obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo
$22b2o8bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$21bo
2b3obo5bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$24b3ob
o4b2obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$26bo2bo3bo
2bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$24b2o5b2ob2o2b
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$28b2o4b2ob2obobobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$28b2o3b2o2bo2bobobobobobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$29bo3bobo3bo2bobobobobobobobobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$32b2obo2bo3bobobobobobobobobobobobobobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo
bobobobobobobobobobo$32bo5bo2bo2bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo
bobobobo$37bo3bobo2bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$33b2o
2bob4o3bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$37b2obo4b2obobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$37b3o2bo2bobo2bobobobobobobobobobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo
bobobobobobobobobobo$38bo3bo7bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$
40bo3b2o3b2obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$42b2o8bobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobo$41bo2b3obo5bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obo$44b3obo4b2obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$46bo2bo3bo2bobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobo$44b2o5b2ob2o2bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
o$48b2o4b2ob2obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$48b2o3b2o2bo2bobobobobobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo
bobobobobobobobobo$49bo3bobo3bo2bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$52b2obo2b
o3bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$52bo5bo2bo2bobobobobobobobobobobobobobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$
57bo3bobo2bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$53b2o2bob4o3bobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
o$57b2obo4b2obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$57b3o2bo2bobo2bobobobobobobobobobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo
$58bo3bo7bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$60bo3b2o3b2obobobobobobobobobobobobobobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$62b2o8bob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobo$61bo2b3obo5bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$64b3obo4b2obobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$
66bo2bo3bo2bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobo$64b2o5b2ob2o2bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$68b2o4b2ob2obobobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo
bobo$68b2o3b2o2bo2bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$69bo3bobo3bo2bobobobobobobobobobobobobobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$72b2obo2bo3bobobobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo
$72bo5bo2bo2bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo
bobobobobobobobobo$77bo3bobo2bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$73b2o2bob4o3bobobobobobobobobobobobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$77b2obo4b2obobobobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$77b3o
2bo2bobo2bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobo$78bo3bo7bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo
bobobobobobobobobo$80bo3b2o3b2obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$82b2o8bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$81bo2b3obo5bobobobobobobobobobobobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$84b3obo4b2obobobobobobobobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$86bo2bo3bo2bobobobobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$84b2o5b2ob2o2bo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$88b2o4b2o
b2obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$88b2o
3b2o2bo2bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$
89bo3bobo3bo2bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
o$92b2obo2bo3bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
o$92bo5bo2bo2bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$
97bo3bobo2bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$93b2o
2bob4o3bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$97b2obo
4b2obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$97b3o2bo2bobo
2bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$98bo3bo7bobobobobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$100bo3b2o3b2obobobobobobobobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$102b2o8bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo
bobobobobobobobobo$101bo2b3obo5bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobo$104b3obo4b2obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$106bo
2bo3bo2bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$104b2o5b2ob2o2bobo
bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$108b2o4b2ob2obobobobobobobobobo
bobobobobobobobobobobo$108b2o3b2o2bo2bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob
obobobo$109bo3bobo3bo2bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$112b2obo
2bo3bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$112bo5bo2bo2bobobobobobobob
obobobobobobobobobobo$117bo3bobo2bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$
113b2o2bob4o3bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$117b2obo4b2obobobobobo
bobobobobobobobobobobo$117b3o2bo2bobo2bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$
118bo3bo7bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$120bo3b2o3b2obobobobobobobobob
obobobobobo$122b2o8bobobobobobobobobobobobobobo$121bo2b3obo5bobobobobo
bobobobobobobobo$124b3obo4b2obobobobobobobobobobobobo$126bo2bo3bo2bobo
bobobobobobobobobobo$124b2o5b2ob2o2bobobobobobobobobobobo$128b2o4b2ob
2obobobobobobobobobobo$128b2o3b2o2bo2bobobobobobobobobobo$129bo3bobo3b
o2bobobobobobobobobo$132b2obo2bo3bobobobobobobobobo$132bo5bo2bo2bobobo
bobobobobo$137bo3bobo2bobobobobobobo$133b2o2bob4o3bobobobobobobo$137b
2obo4b2obobobobobobo$137b3o2bo2bobo2bobobobobo$138bo3bo7bobobobobo$
140bo3b2o3b2obobobobo$142b2o8bobobobo$141bo2b3obo5bobobo$144b3obo4b2ob
obo$146bo2bo3bo2bobo$144b2o5b2ob2o2bo$148b2o4b2ob2o$148b2o3b2o2bo$149b
o3bobo3bo$152b2obo2bo$152bo5bo$157bo$153b2o2bobo$157b2o$157b3o$158bo!
I will probably continue poking around in other double-wrapped searches before moving on to trying to connect it up with known edges.
Not much luck, so far best/longest partials for side weld and back corner look something like:

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x = 251, y = 303, rule = B3/S23
81bo$80bo2bo$70bo$69bo2bo6b2o3bo$59bo19b5o$58bo2bo6b2o3bo8bo$48bo19b5o
5b6o$47bo2bo6b2o3bo8bo7bo3bo$37bo19b5o5b6o6bo3bo$36bo2bo6b2o3bo8bo7bo
3bo6bo$26bo19b5o5b6o6bo3bo5b2obo$25bo2bo6b2o3bo8bo7bo3bo6bo9bo2bo$15bo
19b5o5b6o6bo3bo5b2obo7b5o$14bo2bo6b2o3bo8bo7bo3bo6bo9bo2bo8bob2o$4bo
19b5o5b6o6bo3bo5b2obo7b5o8b2o$3bo2bo6b2o3bo8bo7bo3bo6bo9bo2bo8bob2o$
13b5o5b6o6bo3bo5b2obo7b5o8b2o9b2o$2b2o3bo8bo7bo3bo6bo9bo2bo8bob2o18bob
2o$2b5o5b6o6bo3bo5b2obo7b5o8b2o9b2o7b5o$5bo7bo3bo6bo9bo2bo8bob2o18bob
2o6bo2bo$b6o6bo3bo5b2obo7b5o8b2o9b2o7b5o6b2obo$2bo3bo6bo9bo2bo8bob2o
18bob2o6bo2bo8bo7bo8b3o2bo2bo$2bo3bo5b2obo7b5o8b2o9b2o7b5o6b2obo8bo3bo
4bo6b2obo4b2o$2bo9bo2bo8bob2o18bob2o6bo2bo8bo10bo3bo6bo2b2obobo3b2o$b
2obo7b5o8b2o9b2o7b5o6b2obo8bo3bo5b6o5bo3b2ob2o2bo2bo$bo2bo8bob2o18bob
2o6bo2bo8bo10bo3bo9bo5b2o3bo3b2obo$b5o8b2o9b2o7b5o6b2obo8bo3bo5b6o6b5o
4bo4b4o5b2o$2bob2o18bob2o6bo2bo8bo10bo3bo9bo7b2o3bo4bo7b2o5bo$3b2o9b2o
7b5o6b2obo8bo3bo5b6o6b5o18b2o4bo5bo$13bob2o6bo2bo8bo10bo3bo9bo7b2o3bo
6bo2bo9bo3bobo$3b2o7b5o6b2obo8bo3bo5b6o6b5o19bo10b3o4bobobo$2bob2o6bo
2bo8bo10bo3bo9bo7b2o3bo6bo2bo17bob2obobo3bo$b5o6b2obo8bo3bo5b6o6b5o19b
o11b2o5bo4bo3b2obo$bo2bo8bo10bo3bo9bo7b2o3bo6bo2bo18bo10b2obo3bo3b2o$b
2obo8bo3bo5b6o6b5o19bo11b2o6bo3bo7b2o2b2o5b2o$2bo10bo3bo9bo7b2o3bo6bo
2bo18bo10bobo15bo2b2o$2bo3bo5b6o6b5o19bo11b2o6bo3bo6bobo12b3obob3o$2bo
3bo9bo7b2o3bo6bo2bo18bo10bobo7b4o10bo4bo4bo$b6o6b5o19bo11b2o6bo3bo6bob
o7bo4bo9bob2obo2bobo$5bo7b2o3bo6bo2bo18bo10bobo7b4o6b3o2bo9bo3bobo$2b
5o19bo11b2o6bo3bo6bobo7bo4bo5bo2b2o7bobo2b3obo3bo$2b2o3bo6bo2bo18bo10b
obo7b4o6b3o2bo17bobo3bo2b3o$15bo11b2o6bo3bo6bobo7bo4bo5bo2b2o7b2o9bobo
2b2o2b2o$3bo2bo18bo10bobo7b4o6b3o2bo18b2o9b2o3b3o$4bo11b2o6bo3bo6bobo
7bo4bo5bo2b2o7b2o9b2o9b2o7bo$14bo10bobo7b4o6b3o2bo18b2o7bo6b2o8bo2b2o$
5b2o6bo3bo6bobo7bo4bo5bo2b2o7b2o9b2o9b2o3bo10bob3o2b2o$3bo10bobo7b4o6b
3o2bo18b2o7bo6b2o3b3o2b3o7bo3b2o2b2o$2bo3bo6bobo7bo4bo5bo2b2o7b2o9b2o
9b2o3bo7b2obo7bo5bo2bob2o$3bobo7b4o6b3o2bo18b2o7bo6b2o3b3o2b3o5bo3bo4b
o3bo3bo2b3o$2bobo7bo4bo5bo2b2o7b2o9b2o9b2o3bo7b2obo6b6o4b3o8bo$2b4o6b
3o2bo18b2o7bo6b2o3b3o2b3o5bo3bo4bo7bo11b2o$bo4bo5bo2b2o7b2o9b2o9b2o3bo
7b2obo6b6o4b15o2bo$b3o2bo18b2o7bo6b2o3b3o2b3o5bo3bo4bo7bo17b2ob2o$bo2b
2o7b2o9b2o9b2o3bo7b2obo6b6o4b26o$14b2o7bo6b2o3b3o2b3o5bo3bo4bo7bo29b2o
3b4o$2b2o9b2o9b2o3bo7b2obo6b6o4b39o2b2o2b3o$3b2o7bo6b2o3b3o2b3o5bo3bo
4bo7bo42bo3bobo$2b2o9b2o3bo7b2obo6b6o4b51o4b2o2bo$bo6b2o3b3o2b3o5bo3bo
4bo7bo55b3o5bo$2b2o3bo7b2obo6b6o4b64o2bob2obo$2b3o2b3o5bo3bo4bo7bo67bo
5bo$4b2obo6b6o4b76o5bob2obo$4bo3bo4bo7bo80b2obob2obo$3b6o4b90o4b3o$2bo
7bo92bo$2b101o4b2o2b2o$105bo3bob3o$106o$110bo$107o3bo3b2o$108b2o2b3o2b
o$109ob3o4bo$110b2ob2o$110o$111b2o3b4o$112o2b2o2b3o$113bo3bobo$113o4b
2o2bo$115b3o5bo$115o2bob2obo$116bo5bo$116o5bob2obo$118b2obob2obo$119o
4b3o$119bo$119o4b2o2b2o$121bo3bob3o$122o$126bo$123o3bo3b2o$124b2o2b3o
2bo$125ob3o4bo$126b2ob2o$126o$127b2o3b4o$128o2b2o2b3o$129bo3bobo$129o
4b2o2bo$131b3o5bo$131o2bob2obo$132bo5bo$132o5bob2obo$134b2obob2obo$
135o4b3o$135bo$135o4b2o2b2o$137bo3bob3o$138o$142bo$139o3bo3b2o$140b2o
2b3o2bo$141ob3o4bo$142b2ob2o$142o$143b2o3b4o$144o2b2o2b3o$145bo3bobo$
145o4b2o2bo$147b3o5bo$147o2bob2obo68b3o$148bo5bo67bo2b2o3b2obo2b3o5b2o
$148o5bob2obo62bo4bo8b5o2bo6b2o$150b2obob2obo62bobo2bo3bo2bobo3bo3bo2b
ob3o$151o4b3o61bobo5bobo3b2o6bob2obobo$151bo57b2o8b2o3bo2bobo2bo2b2o2b
obobo3b3o$151o4b2o2b2o47bo2b2o11bo8b2ob2ob2o2b4ob2o$153bo3bob3o46bo4b
2ob2ob2o3b2obo4b3o3bob2o4bo2b2o$154o46bo4bo4bo8b2o11bo8bo3bo4bo$158bo
41b6o5bo4bo2bo8b2o3b2obo4bobob2o$155o3bo3b2o32b2o11b2o5bob2o8b3o5bob2o
bob2obobobo$156b2o2b3o2bo30b2ob2obo2bo2b2o4bob2o11b2o12bo2b2o2bo$157ob
3o4bo32bobobo9b2ob2ob2o10bo16bo$158b2ob2o35bo5b3o5b2ob2o$158o38b2o2b3o
2bobo5bo2bo$159b2o3b4o23bo3bo3b2o3b2o9b3o$160o2b2o2b3o21bob2obo4bo3b2o
9b2o$161bo3bobo22b4o3bobo4bo$161o4b2o2bo26bo3bo$163b3o5bo19bo3bo$163o
2bob2obo18bo$164bo5bo3bo12bob3obo$164o5bo3b2o10b5o3bo$166b2obob2o11b2o
3b5o$167o4b2o15bo4bo$167bo5b2o2bo2bob4o2b3o$167o7bob4o2b3o$169bo5bo2bo
4bo$170o3bobo2b3o5bo$170bo2bo2b2o2bo3bo$170o4bo6bo2bo$174b2o$170o4bo6b
o2bo$170bo2bo2b2o2bo3bo$170o3bobo2b3o5bo$169bo5bo2bo4bo$167o7bob4o2b3o
$167bo5b2o2bo2bob4o2b3o$167o4b2o15bo4bo$166b2obob2o11b2o3b5o$164o5bo3b
2o10b5o3bo$164bo5bo3bo12bob3obo$163o2bob2obo18bo$163b3o5bo19bo3bo$161o
4b2o2bo26bo3bo$161bo3bobo22b4o3bobo4bo$160o2b2o2b3o21bob2obo4bo3b2o9b
2o$159b2o3b4o23bo3bo3b2o3b2o9b3o$158o38b2o2b3o2bobo5bo2bo$158b2ob2o35b
o5b3o5b2ob2o$157ob3o4bo32bobobo9b2ob2ob2o10bo16bo$156b2o2b3o2bo30b2ob
2obo2bo2b2o4bob2o11b2o12bo2b2o2bo$155o3bo3b2o32b2o11b2o5bob2o8b3o5bob
2obob2obobobo$158bo41b6o5bo4bo2bo8b2o3b2obo4bobob2o$154o46bo4bo4bo8b2o
11bo8bo3bo4bo$153bo3bob3o46bo4b2ob2ob2o3b2obo4b3o3bob2o4bo2b2o$151o4b
2o2b2o47bo2b2o11bo8b2ob2ob2o2b4ob2o$151bo57b2o8b2o3bo2bobo2bo2b2o2bobo
bo3b3o$151o4b3o61bobo5bobo3b2o6bob2obobo$150b2obob2obo62bobo2bo3bo2bob
o3bo3bo2bob3o$148o5bob2obo62bo4bo8b5o2bo6b2o$148bo5bo67bo2b2o3b2obo2b
3o5b2o$147o2bob2obo68b3o$147b3o5bo$145o4b2o2bo$145bo3bobo$144o2b2o2b3o
$143b2o3b4o$142o$142b2ob2o$141ob3o4bo$140b2o2b3o2bo$139o3bo3b2o$142bo$
138o$137bo3bob3o$135o4b2o2b2o$135bo$135o4b3o$134b2obob2obo$132o5bob2ob
o$132bo5bo$131o2bob2obo$131b3o5bo$129o4b2o2bo$129bo3bobo$128o2b2o2b3o$
127b2o3b4o$126o$126b2ob2o$125ob3o4bo$124b2o2b3o2bo$123o3bo3b2o$126bo$
122o$121bo3bob3o$119o4b2o2b2o$119bo$119o4b3o$118b2obob2obo$116o5bob2ob
o$116bo5bo$115o2bob2obo$115b3o5bo$113o4b2o2bo$113bo3bobo$112o2b2o2b3o$
111b2o3b4o$110o$110b2ob2o$109ob3o4bo$108b2o2b3o2bo$107o3bo3b2o$110bo$
106o$105bo3bob3o$2b101o4b2o2b2o$2bo7bo92bo$3b6o4b90o4b3o$4bo3bo4bo7bo
80b2obob2obo$4b2obo6b6o4b76o5bob2obo$2b3o2b3o5bo3bo4bo7bo67bo5bo$2b2o
3bo7b2obo6b6o4b64o2bob2obo$bo6b2o3b3o2b3o5bo3bo4bo7bo55b3o5bo$2b2o9b2o
3bo7b2obo6b6o4b51o4b2o2bo$3b2o7bo6b2o3b3o2b3o5bo3bo4bo7bo42bo3bobo$2b
2o9b2o9b2o3bo7b2obo6b6o4b39o2b2o2b3o$14b2o7bo6b2o3b3o2b3o5bo3bo4bo7bo
29b2o3b4o$bo2b2o7b2o9b2o9b2o3bo7b2obo6b6o4b26o$b3o2bo18b2o7bo6b2o3b3o
2b3o5bo3bo4bo7bo17b2ob2o$bo4bo5bo2b2o7b2o9b2o9b2o3bo7b2obo6b6o4b15o2bo
$2b4o6b3o2bo18b2o7bo6b2o3b3o2b3o5bo3bo4bo7bo11b2o$2bobo7bo4bo5bo2b2o7b
2o9b2o9b2o3bo7b2obo6b6o4b3o8bo$3bobo7b4o6b3o2bo18b2o7bo6b2o3b3o2b3o5bo
3bo4bo3bo3bo2b3o$2bo3bo6bobo7bo4bo5bo2b2o7b2o9b2o9b2o3bo7b2obo7bo5bo2b
ob2o$3bo10bobo7b4o6b3o2bo18b2o7bo6b2o3b3o2b3o7bo3b2o2b2o$5b2o6bo3bo6bo
bo7bo4bo5bo2b2o7b2o9b2o9b2o3bo10bob3o2b2o$14bo10bobo7b4o6b3o2bo18b2o7b
o6b2o8bo2b2o$4bo11b2o6bo3bo6bobo7bo4bo5bo2b2o7b2o9b2o9b2o7bo$3bo2bo18b
o10bobo7b4o6b3o2bo18b2o9b2o3b3o$15bo11b2o6bo3bo6bobo7bo4bo5bo2b2o7b2o
9bobo2b2o2b2o$2b2o3bo6bo2bo18bo10bobo7b4o6b3o2bo17bobo3bo2b3o$2b5o19bo
11b2o6bo3bo6bobo7bo4bo5bo2b2o7bobo2b3obo3bo$5bo7b2o3bo6bo2bo18bo10bobo
7b4o6b3o2bo9bo3bobo$b6o6b5o19bo11b2o6bo3bo6bobo7bo4bo9bob2obo2bobo$2bo
3bo9bo7b2o3bo6bo2bo18bo10bobo7b4o10bo4bo4bo$2bo3bo5b6o6b5o19bo11b2o6bo
3bo6bobo12b3obob3o$2bo10bo3bo9bo7b2o3bo6bo2bo18bo10bobo15bo2b2o$b2obo
8bo3bo5b6o6b5o19bo11b2o6bo3bo7b2o2b2o5b2o$bo2bo8bo10bo3bo9bo7b2o3bo6bo
2bo18bo10b2obo3bo3b2o$b5o6b2obo8bo3bo5b6o6b5o19bo11b2o5bo4bo3b2obo$2bo
b2o6bo2bo8bo10bo3bo9bo7b2o3bo6bo2bo17bob2obobo3bo$3b2o7b5o6b2obo8bo3bo
5b6o6b5o19bo10b3o4bobobo$13bob2o6bo2bo8bo10bo3bo9bo7b2o3bo6bo2bo9bo3bo
bo$3b2o9b2o7b5o6b2obo8bo3bo5b6o6b5o18b2o4bo5bo$2bob2o18bob2o6bo2bo8bo
10bo3bo9bo7b2o3bo4bo7b2o5bo$b5o8b2o9b2o7b5o6b2obo8bo3bo5b6o6b5o4bo4b4o
5b2o$bo2bo8bob2o18bob2o6bo2bo8bo10bo3bo9bo5b2o3bo3b2obo$b2obo7b5o8b2o
9b2o7b5o6b2obo8bo3bo5b6o5bo3b2ob2o2bo2bo$2bo9bo2bo8bob2o18bob2o6bo2bo
8bo10bo3bo6bo2b2obobo3b2o$2bo3bo5b2obo7b5o8b2o9b2o7b5o6b2obo8bo3bo4bo
6b2obo4b2o$2bo3bo6bo9bo2bo8bob2o18bob2o6bo2bo8bo7bo8b3o2bo2bo$b6o6bo3b
o5b2obo7b5o8b2o9b2o7b5o6b2obo$5bo7bo3bo6bo9bo2bo8bob2o18bob2o6bo2bo$2b
5o5b6o6bo3bo5b2obo7b5o8b2o9b2o7b5o$2b2o3bo8bo7bo3bo6bo9bo2bo8bob2o18bo
b2o$13b5o5b6o6bo3bo5b2obo7b5o8b2o9b2o$3bo2bo6b2o3bo8bo7bo3bo6bo9bo2bo
8bob2o$4bo19b5o5b6o6bo3bo5b2obo7b5o8b2o$14bo2bo6b2o3bo8bo7bo3bo6bo9bo
2bo8bob2o$15bo19b5o5b6o6bo3bo5b2obo7b5o$25bo2bo6b2o3bo8bo7bo3bo6bo9bo
2bo$26bo19b5o5b6o6bo3bo5b2obo$36bo2bo6b2o3bo8bo7bo3bo6bo$37bo19b5o5b6o
6bo3bo$47bo2bo6b2o3bo8bo7bo3bo$48bo19b5o5b6o$58bo2bo6b2o3bo8bo$59bo19b
5o$69bo2bo6b2o3bo$70bo$80bo2bo$81bo!
The back I sort of assume I'll figure out eventually but the side connection does not look so great. I had picked the relative positions/phases of the two edges more or less at random but it's hard to want to go back and sketch the input files for lots of others and I'm not sure how [best] to have a computer help me do so.

EDIT: Back corner solved:

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x = 375, y = 303, rule = B3/S23
81bo$80bo2bo$70bo$69bo2bo6b2o3bo$59bo19b5o$58bo2bo6b2o3bo8bo$48bo19b5o
5b6o$47bo2bo6b2o3bo8bo7bo3bo$37bo19b5o5b6o6bo3bo$36bo2bo6b2o3bo8bo7bo
3bo6bo$26bo19b5o5b6o6bo3bo5b2obo$25bo2bo6b2o3bo8bo7bo3bo6bo9bo2bo$15bo
19b5o5b6o6bo3bo5b2obo7b5o$14bo2bo6b2o3bo8bo7bo3bo6bo9bo2bo8bob2o$4bo
19b5o5b6o6bo3bo5b2obo7b5o8b2o$3bo2bo6b2o3bo8bo7bo3bo6bo9bo2bo8bob2o$
13b5o5b6o6bo3bo5b2obo7b5o8b2o9b2o$2b2o3bo8bo7bo3bo6bo9bo2bo8bob2o18bob
2o$2b5o5b6o6bo3bo5b2obo7b5o8b2o9b2o7b5o$5bo7bo3bo6bo9bo2bo8bob2o18bob
2o6bo2bo$b6o6bo3bo5b2obo7b5o8b2o9b2o7b5o6b2obo$2bo3bo6bo9bo2bo8bob2o
18bob2o6bo2bo8bo7bo8b3o2bo2bo$2bo3bo5b2obo7b5o8b2o9b2o7b5o6b2obo8bo3bo
4bo6b2obo4b2o$2bo9bo2bo8bob2o18bob2o6bo2bo8bo10bo3bo6bo2b2obobo3b2o$b
2obo7b5o8b2o9b2o7b5o6b2obo8bo3bo5b6o5bo3b2ob2o2bo2bo$bo2bo8bob2o18bob
2o6bo2bo8bo10bo3bo9bo5b2o3bo3b2obo$b5o8b2o9b2o7b5o6b2obo8bo3bo5b6o6b5o
4bo4b4o5b2o$2bob2o18bob2o6bo2bo8bo10bo3bo9bo7b2o3bo4bo7b2o5bo$3b2o9b2o
7b5o6b2obo8bo3bo5b6o6b5o18b2o4bo5bo$13bob2o6bo2bo8bo10bo3bo9bo7b2o3bo
6bo2bo9bo3bobo$3b2o7b5o6b2obo8bo3bo5b6o6b5o19bo10b3o4bobobo$2bob2o6bo
2bo8bo10bo3bo9bo7b2o3bo6bo2bo17bob2obobo3bo$b5o6b2obo8bo3bo5b6o6b5o19b
o11b2o5bo4bo3b2obo$bo2bo8bo10bo3bo9bo7b2o3bo6bo2bo18bo10b2obo3bo3b2o$b
2obo8bo3bo5b6o6b5o19bo11b2o6bo3bo7b2o2b2o5b2o$2bo10bo3bo9bo7b2o3bo6bo
2bo18bo10bobo15bo2b2o$2bo3bo5b6o6b5o19bo11b2o6bo3bo6bobo12b3obob3o$2bo
3bo9bo7b2o3bo6bo2bo18bo10bobo7b4o10bo4bo4bo$b6o6b5o19bo11b2o6bo3bo6bob
o7bo4bo9bob2obo2bobo$5bo7b2o3bo6bo2bo18bo10bobo7b4o6b3o2bo9bo3bobo$2b
5o19bo11b2o6bo3bo6bobo7bo4bo5bo2b2o7bobo2b3obo3bo$2b2o3bo6bo2bo18bo10b
obo7b4o6b3o2bo17bobo3bo2b3o$15bo11b2o6bo3bo6bobo7bo4bo5bo2b2o7b2o9bobo
2b2o2b2o$3bo2bo18bo10bobo7b4o6b3o2bo18b2o9b2o3b3o$4bo11b2o6bo3bo6bobo
7bo4bo5bo2b2o7b2o9b2o9b2o7bo$14bo10bobo7b4o6b3o2bo18b2o7bo6b2o8bo2b2o$
5b2o6bo3bo6bobo7bo4bo5bo2b2o7b2o9b2o9b2o3bo10bob3o2b2o$3bo10bobo7b4o6b
3o2bo18b2o7bo6b2o3b3o2b3o7bo3b2o2b2o$2bo3bo6bobo7bo4bo5bo2b2o7b2o9b2o
9b2o3bo7b2obo7bo5bo2bob2o$3bobo7b4o6b3o2bo18b2o7bo6b2o3b3o2b3o5bo3bo4b
o3bo3bo2b3o$2bobo7bo4bo5bo2b2o7b2o9b2o9b2o3bo7b2obo6b6o4b3o8bo$2b4o6b
3o2bo18b2o7bo6b2o3b3o2b3o5bo3bo4bo7bo11b2o$bo4bo5bo2b2o7b2o9b2o9b2o3bo
7b2obo6b6o4b15o2bo$b3o2bo18b2o7bo6b2o3b3o2b3o5bo3bo4bo7bo17b2ob2o$bo2b
2o7b2o9b2o9b2o3bo7b2obo6b6o4b26o$14b2o7bo6b2o3b3o2b3o5bo3bo4bo7bo29b2o
3b4o$2b2o9b2o9b2o3bo7b2obo6b6o4b39o2b2o2b3o$3b2o7bo6b2o3b3o2b3o5bo3bo
4bo7bo42bo3bobo$2b2o9b2o3bo7b2obo6b6o4b51o4b2o2bo$bo6b2o3b3o2b3o5bo3bo
4bo7bo55b3o5bo$2b2o3bo7b2obo6b6o4b64o2bob2obo$2b3o2b3o5bo3bo4bo7bo67bo
5bo$4b2obo6b6o4b76o5bob2obo$4bo3bo4bo7bo80b2obob2obo$3b6o4b90o4b3o$2bo
7bo92bo$2b101o4b2o2b2o$105bo3bob3o$106o$110bo$107o3bo3b2o$108b2o2b3o2b
o$109ob3o4bo$110b2ob2o$110o$111b2o3b4o$112o2b2o2b3o$113bo3bobo$113o4b
2o2bo$115b3o5bo$115o2bob2obo$116bo5bo$116o5bob2obo$118b2obob2obo$119o
4b3o$119bo$119o4b2o2b2o$121bo3bob3o$122o$126bo$123o3bo3b2o$124b2o2b3o
2bo$125ob3o4bo$126b2ob2o$126o$127b2o3b4o$128o2b2o2b3o$129bo3bobo$129o
4b2o2bo$131b3o5bo$131o2bob2obo$132bo5bo$132o5bob2obo$134b2obob2obo$
135o4b3o$135bo$135o4b2o2b2o$137bo3bob3o$138o$142bo$139o3bo3b2o$140b2o
2b3o2bo$141ob3o4bo$142b2ob2o$142o$143b2o3b4o$144o2b2o2b3o$145bo3bobo$
145o4b2o2bo$147b3o5bo$147o2bob2obo$148bo5bo$148o5bob2obo$150b2obob2obo
$151o4b3o$151bo122bo$151o4b2o2b2o86b2o4bo19bo20b2o$153bo3bob3o72b2o11b
2o5b2ob2o14bobo14bo2bo2bo8b3o$154o79bo2bo10b2obob4o2bo14b2obo5bo6bo2bo
b3o6bo$158bo74b3o7bo5b2o2bo3b3o11bo4bo3b2obo6bo3bo7b2ob3o3b3o$155o3bo
3b2o74b2o2bo3bo2bo2bo6bo9b3o3b3o6bobo3b2o2bo6bo2bo2bo3bo$156b2o2b3o2bo
67b4o3b2o4bob2o6b3o8b3o10bo3b4o6bo4b2ob2o2bo3b2o$157ob3o4bo61bo9bo2b2o
4b2o3bo4b2o7b2o2bo7bobo4bo9b3o2b3o2b3o2b2o12bo$158b2ob2o63bobo2bo2b2ob
2o2bobo4bo2bo8bo4b2o10b2o3bo4b2o5bo4bo4b3o2bobo10bobo4b2o7b3obo3b2o$
158o67bo4bo3b2ob2o3bo7bo9b3obo12bo2b5o10bob3o4bo4b3o9b2o5bo2bo6b2obo3b
3o2b2o$159b2o3b4o60bo3b2o3b2o9b3o9b2o2bo13b2o3b2o11bo3bo3bo19bobob2o5b
o3bob2o6bo15bo5b3o$160o2b2o2b3o53b2obo3b3o16b2o12bo18bo41b2obobo6b2o3b
2o2bo3b3o7b2o3b5o$161bo3bobo53b3obo4bo90bo4b2ob2o4bo5bo2bo4b2o6bo8b6o
2bo$161o4b2o2bo51bo3bo93b3o8b2o9bo3b3o4bobobo5bo2bob2o4b2o$163b3o5bo
48bobo2b5o88b2obo9bo10bo7b2o3b3o5b2o3b2o$163o2bob2obo16b2o6b2o7bobo14b
ob4o86bo3bo2bobo27bobo2bo5b4o4bo$164bo5bo3bo11b4o6bo5bo2b2o5b2o7bob2o
3bob2o34b2o16b2o16bo8b2obob2obo31bo7bobob2o$164o5bo3b2o10b5o3bo2b2o4bo
3bo4b4o7bo7bo2bobob2o4bo17bo3bo2bo9b3o2b7o12b2ob2obobob4obo41bo4b3o$
166b2obob2o11b2o4b4o2bo4bo3bo5bo2b3o13b2o2bob3o2b2o6b2o9b2o3bobo5bo6bo
2bobobo3bob2o3bo5bo3b2o4b2o4bo38bo2bo3bo$167o4b2o19bo2b2o4b2obob2o3b2o
3bo2b2obo2bo5b5o4bob2obobob2o12bo9b3o4bo6bo8b2obo3bo8bob3o43bo$167bo5b
2o2bo2bob4o2bo2b3ob6o3b2ob2o2bo3b2obo2b3o8bo7b3o6bo10bo4b2o4b2ob2o12bo
3b6o3bobo3bob2ob2o2bobobo$167o7bob4o2b3o2b2o5bobo3b4ob2obo3b2ob2o2bobo
19bo4b2ob2obob3o3bo8b2o4bob3o6b2ob2obo6b7o8bobo2bo$169bo5bo2bo4bo6bo2b
2o6bo3b4o3b3o4b3o14b2o3bo5bob2o5bo3b2o10bo13bo13b2o14bo$170o3bobo2b3o
8b2o4bo3bo8bo3b3o22bo3bo5bo13bo3bo2bo2b3o$170bo2bo2b2o2bo3bob2o3bob3o
14bo25bo2bobo4b2ob4o2b2ob2obo4bobo6bo$170o4bo6bo2bo3b4o2b2o9b5o26b2ob
3o5bo2bo7b4obobo3b7o$174b2o16b4o45bo5b2o3b3o9b3o$170o4bo6bo2bo3b4o2b2o
9b5o26b2ob3o5bo2bo7b4obobo3b7o$170bo2bo2b2o2bo3bob2o3bob3o14bo25bo2bob
o4b2ob4o2b2ob2obo4bobo6bo$170o3bobo2b3o8b2o4bo3bo8bo3b3o22bo3bo5bo13bo
3bo2bo2b3o$169bo5bo2bo4bo6bo2b2o6bo3b4o3b3o4b3o14b2o3bo5bob2o5bo3b2o
10bo13bo13b2o14bo$167o7bob4o2b3o2b2o5bobo3b4ob2obo3b2ob2o2bobo19bo4b2o
b2obob3o3bo8b2o4bob3o6b2ob2obo6b7o8bobo2bo$167bo5b2o2bo2bob4o2bo2b3ob
6o3b2ob2o2bo3b2obo2b3o8bo7b3o6bo10bo4b2o4b2ob2o12bo3b6o3bobo3bob2ob2o
2bobobo$167o4b2o19bo2b2o4b2obob2o3b2o3bo2b2obo2bo5b5o4bob2obobob2o12bo
9b3o4bo6bo8b2obo3bo8bob3o43bo$166b2obob2o11b2o4b4o2bo4bo3bo5bo2b3o13b
2o2bob3o2b2o6b2o9b2o3bobo5bo6bo2bobobo3bob2o3bo5bo3b2o4b2o4bo38bo2bo3b
o$164o5bo3b2o10b5o3bo2b2o4bo3bo4b4o7bo7bo2bobob2o4bo17bo3bo2bo9b3o2b7o
12b2ob2obobob4obo41bo4b3o$164bo5bo3bo11b4o6bo5bo2b2o5b2o7bob2o3bob2o
34b2o16b2o16bo8b2obob2obo31bo7bobob2o$163o2bob2obo16b2o6b2o7bobo14bob
4o86bo3bo2bobo27bobo2bo5b4o4bo$163b3o5bo48bobo2b5o88b2obo9bo10bo7b2o3b
3o5b2o3b2o$161o4b2o2bo51bo3bo93b3o8b2o9bo3b3o4bobobo5bo2bob2o4b2o$161b
o3bobo53b3obo4bo90bo4b2ob2o4bo5bo2bo4b2o6bo8b6o2bo$160o2b2o2b3o53b2obo
3b3o16b2o12bo18bo41b2obobo6b2o3b2o2bo3b3o7b2o3b5o$159b2o3b4o60bo3b2o3b
2o9b3o9b2o2bo13b2o3b2o11bo3bo3bo19bobob2o5bo3bob2o6bo15bo5b3o$158o67bo
4bo3b2ob2o3bo7bo9b3obo12bo2b5o10bob3o4bo4b3o9b2o5bo2bo6b2obo3b3o2b2o$
158b2ob2o63bobo2bo2b2ob2o2bobo4bo2bo8bo4b2o10b2o3bo4b2o5bo4bo4b3o2bobo
10bobo4b2o7b3obo3b2o$157ob3o4bo61bo9bo2b2o4b2o3bo4b2o7b2o2bo7bobo4bo9b
3o2b3o2b3o2b2o12bo$156b2o2b3o2bo67b4o3b2o4bob2o6b3o8b3o10bo3b4o6bo4b2o
b2o2bo3b2o$155o3bo3b2o74b2o2bo3bo2bo2bo6bo9b3o3b3o6bobo3b2o2bo6bo2bo2b
o3bo$158bo74b3o7bo5b2o2bo3b3o11bo4bo3b2obo6bo3bo7b2ob3o3b3o$154o79bo2b
o10b2obob4o2bo14b2obo5bo6bo2bob3o6bo$153bo3bob3o72b2o11b2o5b2ob2o14bob
o14bo2bo2bo8b3o$151o4b2o2b2o86b2o4bo19bo20b2o$151bo122bo$151o4b3o$150b
2obob2obo$148o5bob2obo$148bo5bo$147o2bob2obo$147b3o5bo$145o4b2o2bo$
145bo3bobo$144o2b2o2b3o$143b2o3b4o$142o$142b2ob2o$141ob3o4bo$140b2o2b
3o2bo$139o3bo3b2o$142bo$138o$137bo3bob3o$135o4b2o2b2o$135bo$135o4b3o$
134b2obob2obo$132o5bob2obo$132bo5bo$131o2bob2obo$131b3o5bo$129o4b2o2bo
$129bo3bobo$128o2b2o2b3o$127b2o3b4o$126o$126b2ob2o$125ob3o4bo$124b2o2b
3o2bo$123o3bo3b2o$126bo$122o$121bo3bob3o$119o4b2o2b2o$119bo$119o4b3o$
118b2obob2obo$116o5bob2obo$116bo5bo$115o2bob2obo$115b3o5bo$113o4b2o2bo
$113bo3bobo$112o2b2o2b3o$111b2o3b4o$110o$110b2ob2o$109ob3o4bo$108b2o2b
3o2bo$107o3bo3b2o$110bo$106o$105bo3bob3o$2b101o4b2o2b2o$2bo7bo92bo$3b
6o4b90o4b3o$4bo3bo4bo7bo80b2obob2obo$4b2obo6b6o4b76o5bob2obo$2b3o2b3o
5bo3bo4bo7bo67bo5bo$2b2o3bo7b2obo6b6o4b64o2bob2obo$bo6b2o3b3o2b3o5bo3b
o4bo7bo55b3o5bo$2b2o9b2o3bo7b2obo6b6o4b51o4b2o2bo$3b2o7bo6b2o3b3o2b3o
5bo3bo4bo7bo42bo3bobo$2b2o9b2o9b2o3bo7b2obo6b6o4b39o2b2o2b3o$14b2o7bo
6b2o3b3o2b3o5bo3bo4bo7bo29b2o3b4o$bo2b2o7b2o9b2o9b2o3bo7b2obo6b6o4b26o
$b3o2bo18b2o7bo6b2o3b3o2b3o5bo3bo4bo7bo17b2ob2o$bo4bo5bo2b2o7b2o9b2o9b
2o3bo7b2obo6b6o4b15o2bo$2b4o6b3o2bo18b2o7bo6b2o3b3o2b3o5bo3bo4bo7bo11b
2o$2bobo7bo4bo5bo2b2o7b2o9b2o9b2o3bo7b2obo6b6o4b3o8bo$3bobo7b4o6b3o2bo
18b2o7bo6b2o3b3o2b3o5bo3bo4bo3bo3bo2b3o$2bo3bo6bobo7bo4bo5bo2b2o7b2o9b
2o9b2o3bo7b2obo7bo5bo2bob2o$3bo10bobo7b4o6b3o2bo18b2o7bo6b2o3b3o2b3o7b
o3b2o2b2o$5b2o6bo3bo6bobo7bo4bo5bo2b2o7b2o9b2o9b2o3bo10bob3o2b2o$14bo
10bobo7b4o6b3o2bo18b2o7bo6b2o8bo2b2o$4bo11b2o6bo3bo6bobo7bo4bo5bo2b2o
7b2o9b2o9b2o7bo$3bo2bo18bo10bobo7b4o6b3o2bo18b2o9b2o3b3o$15bo11b2o6bo
3bo6bobo7bo4bo5bo2b2o7b2o9bobo2b2o2b2o$2b2o3bo6bo2bo18bo10bobo7b4o6b3o
2bo17bobo3bo2b3o$2b5o19bo11b2o6bo3bo6bobo7bo4bo5bo2b2o7bobo2b3obo3bo$
5bo7b2o3bo6bo2bo18bo10bobo7b4o6b3o2bo9bo3bobo$b6o6b5o19bo11b2o6bo3bo6b
obo7bo4bo9bob2obo2bobo$2bo3bo9bo7b2o3bo6bo2bo18bo10bobo7b4o10bo4bo4bo$
2bo3bo5b6o6b5o19bo11b2o6bo3bo6bobo12b3obob3o$2bo10bo3bo9bo7b2o3bo6bo2b
o18bo10bobo15bo2b2o$b2obo8bo3bo5b6o6b5o19bo11b2o6bo3bo7b2o2b2o5b2o$bo
2bo8bo10bo3bo9bo7b2o3bo6bo2bo18bo10b2obo3bo3b2o$b5o6b2obo8bo3bo5b6o6b
5o19bo11b2o5bo4bo3b2obo$2bob2o6bo2bo8bo10bo3bo9bo7b2o3bo6bo2bo17bob2ob
obo3bo$3b2o7b5o6b2obo8bo3bo5b6o6b5o19bo10b3o4bobobo$13bob2o6bo2bo8bo
10bo3bo9bo7b2o3bo6bo2bo9bo3bobo$3b2o9b2o7b5o6b2obo8bo3bo5b6o6b5o18b2o
4bo5bo$2bob2o18bob2o6bo2bo8bo10bo3bo9bo7b2o3bo4bo7b2o5bo$b5o8b2o9b2o7b
5o6b2obo8bo3bo5b6o6b5o4bo4b4o5b2o$bo2bo8bob2o18bob2o6bo2bo8bo10bo3bo9b
o5b2o3bo3b2obo$b2obo7b5o8b2o9b2o7b5o6b2obo8bo3bo5b6o5bo3b2ob2o2bo2bo$
2bo9bo2bo8bob2o18bob2o6bo2bo8bo10bo3bo6bo2b2obobo3b2o$2bo3bo5b2obo7b5o
8b2o9b2o7b5o6b2obo8bo3bo4bo6b2obo4b2o$2bo3bo6bo9bo2bo8bob2o18bob2o6bo
2bo8bo7bo8b3o2bo2bo$b6o6bo3bo5b2obo7b5o8b2o9b2o7b5o6b2obo$5bo7bo3bo6bo
9bo2bo8bob2o18bob2o6bo2bo$2b5o5b6o6bo3bo5b2obo7b5o8b2o9b2o7b5o$2b2o3bo
8bo7bo3bo6bo9bo2bo8bob2o18bob2o$13b5o5b6o6bo3bo5b2obo7b5o8b2o9b2o$3bo
2bo6b2o3bo8bo7bo3bo6bo9bo2bo8bob2o$4bo19b5o5b6o6bo3bo5b2obo7b5o8b2o$
14bo2bo6b2o3bo8bo7bo3bo6bo9bo2bo8bob2o$15bo19b5o5b6o6bo3bo5b2obo7b5o$
25bo2bo6b2o3bo8bo7bo3bo6bo9bo2bo$26bo19b5o5b6o6bo3bo5b2obo$36bo2bo6b2o
3bo8bo7bo3bo6bo$37bo19b5o5b6o6bo3bo$47bo2bo6b2o3bo8bo7bo3bo$48bo19b5o
5b6o$58bo2bo6b2o3bo8bo$59bo19b5o$69bo2bo6b2o3bo$70bo$80bo2bo$81bo!
EDIT: Maybe a better take on the side weld as two branches (one f2b, one s2s), but neither solved yet:

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x = 376, y = 355, rule = B3/S23
91bo6bo$90b5ob2ob2o$93bo4b4o$95b2o4bo$92b2ob2o2bobo$91b2obob6o$92bo2bo
b2o$92bo3bo2b2obo$93b3o3bob2o$96bo4bo$93b5obobo$95b2o2b3o$92bobo6b2o$
92bo2bo2b2o$93bo3b2ob2o$92bo5bob2o$92b2o4bobo$92bo3bo3bo$91b3ob2o$95b
2o4bo$91b3o4bobo$91b2obob2ob2o$93b5ob3o$94b2ob2o2bo$95b2o$94b3o2bo$81b
o11bo4bo$80bo2bo9b2o2bo$70bo22b3ob3o$69bo2bo6b2o3bo8b3o2b2o$59bo19b5o
10bo5bo$58bo2bo6b2o3bo8bo10b2ob5o$48bo19b5o5b6o9bo7bo$47bo2bo6b2o3bo8b
o7bo3bo10bob3o2bo$37bo19b5o5b6o6bo3bo11bo4b3o$36bo2bo6b2o3bo8bo7bo3bo
6bo21b2o$26bo19b5o5b6o6bo3bo5b2obo11b2o$25bo2bo6b2o3bo8bo7bo3bo6bo9bo
2bo11bobo4b3o$15bo19b5o5b6o6bo3bo5b2obo7b5o13bo2bob2o$14bo2bo6b2o3bo8b
o7bo3bo6bo9bo2bo8bob2o11b2o$4bo19b5o5b6o6bo3bo5b2obo7b5o8b2o15bo2bo$3b
o2bo6b2o3bo8bo7bo3bo6bo9bo2bo8bob2o22b5obo$13b5o5b6o6bo3bo5b2obo7b5o8b
2o9b2o12bo3bo$2b2o3bo8bo7bo3bo6bo9bo2bo8bob2o18bob2o12bo2bobobo$2b5o5b
6o6bo3bo5b2obo7b5o8b2o9b2o7b5o11bo3bo3bo$5bo7bo3bo6bo9bo2bo8bob2o18bob
2o6bo2bo10b2ob5o$b6o6bo3bo5b2obo7b5o8b2o9b2o7b5o6b2obo10b2obo2b2o$2bo
3bo6bo9bo2bo8bob2o18bob2o6bo2bo8bo15b5o$2bo3bo5b2obo7b5o8b2o9b2o7b5o6b
2obo8bo3bo8b2o5bo$2bo9bo2bo8bob2o18bob2o6bo2bo8bo10bo3bo9bo3b3o$b2obo
7b5o8b2o9b2o7b5o6b2obo8bo3bo5b6o10b2ob2o$bo2bo8bob2o18bob2o6bo2bo8bo
10bo3bo9bo13bo$b5o8b2o9b2o7b5o6b2obo8bo3bo5b6o6b5o$2bob2o18bob2o6bo2bo
8bo10bo3bo9bo7b2o3bo9bobobo$3b2o9b2o7b5o6b2obo8bo3bo5b6o6b5o20b2o2bo$
13bob2o6bo2bo8bo10bo3bo9bo7b2o3bo6bo2bo10bo3bo$3b2o7b5o6b2obo8bo3bo5b
6o6b5o19bo12b2obo$2bob2o6bo2bo8bo10bo3bo9bo7b2o3bo6bo2bo17bo4bobobo$b
5o6b2obo8bo3bo5b6o6b5o19bo11b2o5bobo2b2obo$bo2bo8bo10bo3bo9bo7b2o3bo6b
o2bo18bo11bo2bobobo$b2obo8bo3bo5b6o6b5o19bo11b2o6bo3bo5b2ob2o2b4o$2bo
10bo3bo9bo7b2o3bo6bo2bo18bo10bobo9b2o3bo11bo$2bo3bo5b6o6b5o19bo11b2o6b
o3bo6bobo9b3o14bob2obobo4b2o4b3o2b3o$2bo3bo9bo7b2o3bo6bo2bo18bo10bobo
7b4o5b3o16bo2b2obo4bo10bo3b2o$b6o6b5o19bo11b2o6bo3bo6bobo7bo4bo6bo13bo
b2o3bo3bo5bo6b2o2bobo$5bo7b2o3bo6bo2bo18bo10bobo7b4o6b3o2bo3bo12bo3b2o
b4o2b3ob3obob2obo3bo2bo$2b5o19bo11b2o6bo3bo6bobo7bo4bo5bo2b2o5b3o8bob
2o4bo2bo2bo7bo2bob2o5bo$2b2o3bo6bo2bo18bo10bobo7b4o6b3o2bo18bobo4bo3bo
b2obo8b2o2bo3bob2o3b2o$15bo11b2o6bo3bo6bobo7bo4bo5bo2b2o7b2o11b2o11bo
3bo4bob2o2b2o4bo2bo2bo$3bo2bo18bo10bobo7b4o6b3o2bo18b2o9bo2b2ob2o3bo2b
4o5bo5b2ob4o2bo2b2o$4bo11b2o6bo3bo6bobo7bo4bo5bo2b2o7b2o9b2o10b4ob3o6b
2o3bobo2bo4bob2o7b2o$14bo10bobo7b4o6b3o2bo18b2o7bo6b2o4b2o2b2o4bobo3bo
bob3o4b2ob2o3b2ob2obobo$5b2o6bo3bo6bobo7bo4bo5bo2b2o7b2o9b2o9b2o3bo5b
3o5bob4o3bo3bob2o8bo3b4obo$3bo10bobo7b4o6b3o2bo18b2o7bo6b2o3b3o2b3o3bo
5bo2bo8b2ob3o4b8o7b2o$2bo3bo6bobo7bo4bo5bo2b2o7b2o9b2o9b2o3bo7b2obo4bo
4b2o3bo14bob3o3bobo3b5o$3bobo7b4o6b3o2bo18b2o7bo6b2o3b3o2b3o5bo3bo3b3o
2bo6b2o14bob2o4b3o6bo$2bobo7bo4bo5bo2b2o7b2o9b2o9b2o3bo7b2obo6b6o3b3o
2bo2bo4b3o6b3o2bo3bo3bobob2obo2bo$2b4o6b3o2bo18b2o7bo6b2o3b3o2b3o5bo3b
o4bo7bo12b2ob2o5b5ob2o5bo4bo2b2obo$bo4bo5bo2b2o7b2o9b2o9b2o3bo7b2obo6b
6o4b16o2bo13b2o2b2o5b2o5bo3b2o$b3o2bo18b2o7bo6b2o3b3o2b3o5bo3bo4bo7bo
18b2ob2o33bo$bo2b2o7b2o9b2o9b2o3bo7b2obo6b6o4b27o$14b2o7bo6b2o3b3o2b3o
5bo3bo4bo7bo30b2o3b4o$2b2o9b2o9b2o3bo7b2obo6b6o4b40o2b2o2b3o$3b2o7bo6b
2o3b3o2b3o5bo3bo4bo7bo43bo3bobo$2b2o9b2o3bo7b2obo6b6o4b52o4b2o2bo$bo6b
2o3b3o2b3o5bo3bo4bo7bo56b3o5bo$2b2o3bo7b2obo6b6o4b65o2bob2obo$2b3o2b3o
5bo3bo4bo7bo68bo5bo$4b2obo6b6o4b77o5bob2obo$4bo3bo4bo7bo81b2obob2obo$
3b6o4b91o4b3o$2bo7bo93bo$2b102o4b2o2b2o$106bo3bob3o$107o$111bo$108o3bo
3b2o$109b2o2b3o2bo$110ob3o4bo$111b2ob2o$111o$112b2o3b4o$113o2b2o2b3o$
114bo3bobo$114o4b2o2bo$116b3o5bo$116o2bob2obo$117bo5bo$117o5bob2obo$
119b2obob2obo$120o4b3o$120bo$120o4b2o2b2o$122bo3bob3o$123o$127bo$124o
3bo3b2o$125b2o2b3o2bo$126ob3o4bo$127b2ob2o$127o$128b2o3b4o$129o2b2o2b
3o$130bo3bobo$130o4b2o2bo$132b3o5bo$132o2bob2obo$133bo5bo$133o5bob2obo
$135b2obob2obo$136o4b3o$136bo$136o4b2o2b2o$138bo3bob3o$139o$143bo$140o
3bo3b2o$141b2o2b3o2bo$142ob3o4bo$143b2ob2o$143o$144b2o3b4o$145o2b2o2b
3o$146bo3bobo$146o4b2o2bo$148b3o5bo$148o2bob2obo$149bo5bo$149o5bob2obo
$151b2obob2obo$152o4b3o$152bo122bo$152o4b2o2b2o86b2o4bo19bo20b2o$154bo
3bob3o72b2o11b2o5b2ob2o14bobo14bo2bo2bo8b3o$155o79bo2bo10b2obob4o2bo
14b2obo5bo6bo2bob3o6bo$159bo74b3o7bo5b2o2bo3b3o11bo4bo3b2obo6bo3bo7b2o
b3o3b3o$156o3bo3b2o74b2o2bo3bo2bo2bo6bo9b3o3b3o6bobo3b2o2bo6bo2bo2bo3b
o$157b2o2b3o2bo67b4o3b2o4bob2o6b3o8b3o10bo3b4o6bo4b2ob2o2bo3b2o$158ob
3o4bo61bo9bo2b2o4b2o3bo4b2o7b2o2bo7bobo4bo9b3o2b3o2b3o2b2o12bo$159b2ob
2o63bobo2bo2b2ob2o2bobo4bo2bo8bo4b2o10b2o3bo4b2o5bo4bo4b3o2bobo10bobo
4b2o7b3obo3b2o$159o67bo4bo3b2ob2o3bo7bo9b3obo12bo2b5o10bob3o4bo4b3o9b
2o5bo2bo6b2obo3b3o2b2o$160b2o3b4o60bo3b2o3b2o9b3o9b2o2bo13b2o3b2o11bo
3bo3bo19bobob2o5bo3bob2o6bo15bo5b3o$161o2b2o2b3o53b2obo3b3o16b2o12bo
18bo41b2obobo6b2o3b2o2bo3b3o7b2o3b5o$162bo3bobo53b3obo4bo90bo4b2ob2o4b
o5bo2bo4b2o6bo8b6o2bo$162o4b2o2bo51bo3bo93b3o8b2o9bo3b3o4bobobo5bo2bob
2o4b2o$164b3o5bo48bobo2b5o88b2obo9bo10bo7b2o3b3o5b2o3b2o$164o2bob2obo
16b2o6b2o7bobo14bob4o86bo3bo2bobo27bobo2bo5b4o4bo$165bo5bo3bo11b4o6bo
5bo2b2o5b2o7bob2o3bob2o34b2o16b2o16bo8b2obob2obo31bo7bobob2o$165o5bo3b
2o10b5o3bo2b2o4bo3bo4b4o7bo7bo2bobob2o4bo17bo3bo2bo9b3o2b7o12b2ob2obob
ob4obo41bo4b3o$167b2obob2o11b2o4b4o2bo4bo3bo5bo2b3o13b2o2bob3o2b2o6b2o
9b2o3bobo5bo6bo2bobobo3bob2o3bo5bo3b2o4b2o4bo38bo2bo3bo$168o4b2o19bo2b
2o4b2obob2o3b2o3bo2b2obo2bo5b5o4bob2obobob2o12bo9b3o4bo6bo8b2obo3bo8bo
b3o43bo$168bo5b2o2bo2bob4o2bo2b3ob6o3b2ob2o2bo3b2obo2b3o8bo7b3o6bo10bo
4b2o4b2ob2o12bo3b6o3bobo3bob2ob2o2bobobo$168o7bob4o2b3o2b2o5bobo3b4ob
2obo3b2ob2o2bobo19bo4b2ob2obob3o3bo8b2o4bob3o6b2ob2obo6b7o8bobo2bo$
170bo5bo2bo4bo6bo2b2o6bo3b4o3b3o4b3o14b2o3bo5bob2o5bo3b2o10bo13bo13b2o
14bo$171o3bobo2b3o8b2o4bo3bo8bo3b3o22bo3bo5bo13bo3bo2bo2b3o$171bo2bo2b
2o2bo3bob2o3bob3o14bo25bo2bobo4b2ob4o2b2ob2obo4bobo6bo$171o4bo6bo2bo3b
4o2b2o9b5o26b2ob3o5bo2bo7b4obobo3b7o$175b2o16b4o45bo5b2o3b3o9b3o$171o
4bo6bo2bo3b4o2b2o9b5o26b2ob3o5bo2bo7b4obobo3b7o$171bo2bo2b2o2bo3bob2o
3bob3o14bo25bo2bobo4b2ob4o2b2ob2obo4bobo6bo$171o3bobo2b3o8b2o4bo3bo8bo
3b3o22bo3bo5bo13bo3bo2bo2b3o$170bo5bo2bo4bo6bo2b2o6bo3b4o3b3o4b3o14b2o
3bo5bob2o5bo3b2o10bo13bo13b2o14bo$168o7bob4o2b3o2b2o5bobo3b4ob2obo3b2o
b2o2bobo19bo4b2ob2obob3o3bo8b2o4bob3o6b2ob2obo6b7o8bobo2bo$168bo5b2o2b
o2bob4o2bo2b3ob6o3b2ob2o2bo3b2obo2b3o8bo7b3o6bo10bo4b2o4b2ob2o12bo3b6o
3bobo3bob2ob2o2bobobo$168o4b2o19bo2b2o4b2obob2o3b2o3bo2b2obo2bo5b5o4bo
b2obobob2o12bo9b3o4bo6bo8b2obo3bo8bob3o43bo$167b2obob2o11b2o4b4o2bo4bo
3bo5bo2b3o13b2o2bob3o2b2o6b2o9b2o3bobo5bo6bo2bobobo3bob2o3bo5bo3b2o4b
2o4bo38bo2bo3bo$165o5bo3b2o10b5o3bo2b2o4bo3bo4b4o7bo7bo2bobob2o4bo17bo
3bo2bo9b3o2b7o12b2ob2obobob4obo41bo4b3o$165bo5bo3bo11b4o6bo5bo2b2o5b2o
7bob2o3bob2o34b2o16b2o16bo8b2obob2obo31bo7bobob2o$164o2bob2obo16b2o6b
2o7bobo14bob4o86bo3bo2bobo27bobo2bo5b4o4bo$164b3o5bo48bobo2b5o88b2obo
9bo10bo7b2o3b3o5b2o3b2o$162o4b2o2bo51bo3bo93b3o8b2o9bo3b3o4bobobo5bo2b
ob2o4b2o$162bo3bobo53b3obo4bo90bo4b2ob2o4bo5bo2bo4b2o6bo8b6o2bo$161o2b
2o2b3o53b2obo3b3o16b2o12bo18bo41b2obobo6b2o3b2o2bo3b3o7b2o3b5o$160b2o
3b4o60bo3b2o3b2o9b3o9b2o2bo13b2o3b2o11bo3bo3bo19bobob2o5bo3bob2o6bo15b
o5b3o$159o67bo4bo3b2ob2o3bo7bo9b3obo12bo2b5o10bob3o4bo4b3o9b2o5bo2bo6b
2obo3b3o2b2o$159b2ob2o63bobo2bo2b2ob2o2bobo4bo2bo8bo4b2o10b2o3bo4b2o5b
o4bo4b3o2bobo10bobo4b2o7b3obo3b2o$158ob3o4bo61bo9bo2b2o4b2o3bo4b2o7b2o
2bo7bobo4bo9b3o2b3o2b3o2b2o12bo$157b2o2b3o2bo67b4o3b2o4bob2o6b3o8b3o
10bo3b4o6bo4b2ob2o2bo3b2o$156o3bo3b2o74b2o2bo3bo2bo2bo6bo9b3o3b3o6bobo
3b2o2bo6bo2bo2bo3bo$159bo74b3o7bo5b2o2bo3b3o11bo4bo3b2obo6bo3bo7b2ob3o
3b3o$155o79bo2bo10b2obob4o2bo14b2obo5bo6bo2bob3o6bo$154bo3bob3o72b2o
11b2o5b2ob2o14bobo14bo2bo2bo8b3o$152o4b2o2b2o86b2o4bo19bo20b2o$152bo
122bo$152o4b3o$151b2obob2obo$149o5bob2obo$149bo5bo$148o2bob2obo$148b3o
5bo$146o4b2o2bo$146bo3bobo$145o2b2o2b3o$144b2o3b4o$143o$143b2ob2o$142o
b3o4bo$141b2o2b3o2bo$140o3bo3b2o$143bo$139o$138bo3bob3o$136o4b2o2b2o$
136bo$136o4b3o$135b2obob2obo$133o5bob2obo$133bo5bo$132o2bob2obo$132b3o
5bo$130o4b2o2bo$130bo3bobo$129o2b2o2b3o$128b2o3b4o$127o$127b2ob2o$126o
b3o4bo$125b2o2b3o2bo$124o3bo3b2o$127bo$123o$122bo3bob3o$120o4b2o2b2o$
120bo$120o4b3o$119b2obob2obo$117o5bob2obo$117bo5bo$116o2bob2obo$116b3o
5bo$114o4b2o2bo$114bo3bobo$113o2b2o2b3o$112b2o3b4o$111o$111b2ob2o$110o
b3o4bo$109b2o2b3o2bo$108o3bo3b2o$111bo$107o$106bo3bob3o$2b102o4b2o2b2o
$2bo7bo93bo$3b6o4b91o4b3o$4bo3bo4bo7bo81b2obob2obo$4b2obo6b6o4b77o5bob
2obo$2b3o2b3o5bo3bo4bo7bo68bo5bo$2b2o3bo7b2obo6b6o4b65o2bob2obo$bo6b2o
3b3o2b3o5bo3bo4bo7bo56b3o5bo$2b2o9b2o3bo7b2obo6b6o4b52o4b2o2bo$3b2o7bo
6b2o3b3o2b3o5bo3bo4bo7bo43bo3bobo$2b2o9b2o9b2o3bo7b2obo6b6o4b40o2b2o2b
3o$14b2o7bo6b2o3b3o2b3o5bo3bo4bo7bo30b2o3b4o$bo2b2o7b2o9b2o9b2o3bo7b2o
bo6b6o4b27o$b3o2bo18b2o7bo6b2o3b3o2b3o5bo3bo4bo7bo18b2ob2o33bo$bo4bo5b
o2b2o7b2o9b2o9b2o3bo7b2obo6b6o4b16o2bo13b2o2b2o5b2o5bo3b2o$2b4o6b3o2bo
18b2o7bo6b2o3b3o2b3o5bo3bo4bo7bo12b2ob2o5b5ob2o5bo4bo2b2obo$2bobo7bo4b
o5bo2b2o7b2o9b2o9b2o3bo7b2obo6b6o3b3o2bo2bo4b3o6b3o2bo3bo3bobob2obo2bo
$3bobo7b4o6b3o2bo18b2o7bo6b2o3b3o2b3o5bo3bo3b3o2bo6b2o14bob2o4b3o6bo$
2bo3bo6bobo7bo4bo5bo2b2o7b2o9b2o9b2o3bo7b2obo4bo4b2o3bo14bob3o3bobo3b
5o$3bo10bobo7b4o6b3o2bo18b2o7bo6b2o3b3o2b3o3bo5bo2bo8b2ob3o4b8o7b2o$5b
2o6bo3bo6bobo7bo4bo5bo2b2o7b2o9b2o9b2o3bo5b3o5bob4o3bo3bob2o8bo3b4obo$
14bo10bobo7b4o6b3o2bo18b2o7bo6b2o4b2o2b2o4bobo3bobob3o4b2ob2o3b2ob2obo
bo$4bo11b2o6bo3bo6bobo7bo4bo5bo2b2o7b2o9b2o10b4ob3o6b2o3bobo2bo4bob2o
7b2o$3bo2bo18bo10bobo7b4o6b3o2bo18b2o9bo2b2ob2o3bo2b4o5bo5b2ob4o2bo2b
2o$15bo11b2o6bo3bo6bobo7bo4bo5bo2b2o7b2o11b2o11bo3bo4bob2o2b2o4bo2bo2b
o$2b2o3bo6bo2bo18bo10bobo7b4o6b3o2bo18bobo4bo3bob2obo8b2o2bo3bob2o3b2o
$2b5o19bo11b2o6bo3bo6bobo7bo4bo5bo2b2o5b3o8bob2o4bo2bo2bo7bo2bob2o5bo$
5bo7b2o3bo6bo2bo18bo10bobo7b4o6b3o2bo3bo12bo3b2ob4o2b3ob3obob2obo3bo2b
o$b6o6b5o19bo11b2o6bo3bo6bobo7bo4bo6bo13bob2o3bo3bo5bo6b2o2bobo$2bo3bo
9bo7b2o3bo6bo2bo18bo10bobo7b4o5b3o16bo2b2obo4bo10bo3b2o$2bo3bo5b6o6b5o
19bo11b2o6bo3bo6bobo9b3o14bob2obobo4b2o4b3o2b3o$2bo10bo3bo9bo7b2o3bo6b
o2bo18bo10bobo9b2o3bo11bo$b2obo8bo3bo5b6o6b5o19bo11b2o6bo3bo5b2ob2o2b
4o$bo2bo8bo10bo3bo9bo7b2o3bo6bo2bo18bo11bo2bobobo$b5o6b2obo8bo3bo5b6o
6b5o19bo11b2o5bobo2b2obo$2bob2o6bo2bo8bo10bo3bo9bo7b2o3bo6bo2bo17bo4bo
bobo$3b2o7b5o6b2obo8bo3bo5b6o6b5o19bo12b2obo$13bob2o6bo2bo8bo10bo3bo9b
o7b2o3bo6bo2bo10bo3bo$3b2o9b2o7b5o6b2obo8bo3bo5b6o6b5o20b2o2bo$2bob2o
18bob2o6bo2bo8bo10bo3bo9bo7b2o3bo9bobobo$b5o8b2o9b2o7b5o6b2obo8bo3bo5b
6o6b5o$bo2bo8bob2o18bob2o6bo2bo8bo10bo3bo9bo13bo$b2obo7b5o8b2o9b2o7b5o
6b2obo8bo3bo5b6o10b2ob2o$2bo9bo2bo8bob2o18bob2o6bo2bo8bo10bo3bo9bo3b3o
$2bo3bo5b2obo7b5o8b2o9b2o7b5o6b2obo8bo3bo8b2o5bo$2bo3bo6bo9bo2bo8bob2o
18bob2o6bo2bo8bo15b5o$b6o6bo3bo5b2obo7b5o8b2o9b2o7b5o6b2obo10b2obo2b2o
$5bo7bo3bo6bo9bo2bo8bob2o18bob2o6bo2bo10b2ob5o$2b5o5b6o6bo3bo5b2obo7b
5o8b2o9b2o7b5o11bo3bo3bo$2b2o3bo8bo7bo3bo6bo9bo2bo8bob2o18bob2o12bo2bo
bobo$13b5o5b6o6bo3bo5b2obo7b5o8b2o9b2o12bo3bo$3bo2bo6b2o3bo8bo7bo3bo6b
o9bo2bo8bob2o22b5obo$4bo19b5o5b6o6bo3bo5b2obo7b5o8b2o15bo2bo$14bo2bo6b
2o3bo8bo7bo3bo6bo9bo2bo8bob2o11b2o$15bo19b5o5b6o6bo3bo5b2obo7b5o13bo2b
ob2o$25bo2bo6b2o3bo8bo7bo3bo6bo9bo2bo11bobo4b3o$26bo19b5o5b6o6bo3bo5b
2obo11b2o$36bo2bo6b2o3bo8bo7bo3bo6bo21b2o$37bo19b5o5b6o6bo3bo11bo4b3o$
47bo2bo6b2o3bo8bo7bo3bo10bob3o2bo$48bo19b5o5b6o9bo7bo$58bo2bo6b2o3bo8b
o10b2ob5o$59bo19b5o10bo5bo$69bo2bo6b2o3bo8b3o2b2o$70bo22b3ob3o$80bo2bo
9b2o2bo$81bo11bo4bo$94b3o2bo$95b2o$94b2ob2o2bo$93b5ob3o$91b2obob2ob2o$
91b3o4bobo$95b2o4bo$91b3ob2o$92bo3bo3bo$92b2o4bobo$92bo5bob2o$93bo3b2o
b2o$92bo2bo2b2o$92bobo6b2o$95b2o2b3o$93b5obobo$96bo4bo$93b3o3bob2o$92b
o3bo2b2obo$92bo2bob2o$91b2obob6o$92b2ob2o2bobo$95b2o4bo$93bo4b4o$90b5o
b2ob2o$91bo6bo!

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Re: amling questionable searches/ideas firehose

Post by amling » June 21st, 2023, 8:03 pm

I realized there is an obvious choice for a c/6 greyship level edge, namely a certain c/1 x p5 edge (seen the other direction in c/4 greyships). Unfortunately LGOL searches, uh, "refused to engage the edge", a failure mode I have seen in such searches before. Longest partial for "wx" 10, "mx" 14:

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x = 18, y = 17, rule = B3/S23
obobobo2bo$obobobob2o$obobobobobo4bo$obobobobobo3bobo$obobobo7bobo$obo
bobo2bo5bo$obobobob2o$obobobobobo3b3o$obobobobobo3b3o$obobobo7bobo$obo
bobo2bo$obobobob2o6b2o$obobobobobo$obobobobobo2b5o$obobobo8b3o$obobobo
bo2bobo$obobobob2o7bo!
I may yet be able to do some tricks to force a better engage, we'll see.

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Re: amling questionable searches/ideas firehose

Post by amling » June 22nd, 2023, 4:44 pm

I had still been trying to get c/3 parallel greyship backs steeper. Since they were just shy of c/2 (14c/29 IIRC) I pushed a little on c/3 x Nc/2N double-wrapped LGOL searches. I ran N=1 through N=9, all with no results, the last taking ~2 weeks even on my very fancy non-laptop computer.

Longest partial for N=8:

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Longest partial for N=9:

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I can't quite tell if I still think c/2 sideways is achievable or somehow not. Either way I am sort of running out of ideas of how to come at it.

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Re: amling questionable searches/ideas firehose

Post by amling » June 23rd, 2023, 11:52 pm

amling wrote:
June 6th, 2023, 11:46 pm
(about c/5 greyship backs)

[T]here is already a hit at 4c/16:

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(snip)
There is also this hit at 6c/22 (c/3.666 > c/4 = 4c/16) which is even more unsolvable:

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x = 366, y = 210, rule = B3/S23
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2o3bo2bo8bobo4b5o$176o3b2o3b3o2b2o5b8obo4bo9bob2o2b3o4bo2bo5bo2b6ob2o
6b2o5bo10b2o4bo5bo7bobo4b2o5b3o5b2o6b2o2bob3o$175bo4bo5bo5bo7bo10bo5b
4obo6bo3b2obo4b2o3bo2bo2bo6b3o5b5o3bobo6bo4bo3b2o3b2o5bo9bobo5bo11b3o$
174o3bo3bo6bobo2bo7b3o7b3o2bo3b3o3b2obo4bo7bo10bo10bob5o4bo2bo5bobo2b
2o4bo2bob2o3b2o8bo9b2o4bo$173b2o8b2o3bo6bo6bobo7b4ob2o3bo3bo7b3o16b2o
3bo2bobo2bo6b2o4b4o6b3o2bobobo4bo2bo8bo2bo3b2ob2o3bo2bo$172o2bo2b6o2bo
3bo3bobo7bo2b2o4b2o8b2ob3o7bo2bo9bo3bobo2bo5bo2bo2b4o12bo5b2o4bo3b2o2b
3o10bo3b2o4b2o3bo$172bo6b2o5b2o2b2o5bob2o4b3o9bo4bo2b2ob3o4bo3b5o3bobo
3bo3bo5bo7bo3b2o4b2o15b2o2bo4b2obo12b2o3bo4bo$171o4bobo3b2obo7bo2b4o6b
o7bo2bo6bob2obo7bo20b3o6b3o4b4o2b2obo3bo2bo2bobo3b3o7bo7b2o10bo4bo$
171b2o2bobo4b4obo4bo7bo5b2o5b3obo4bo2bo4b2o4bo4b2o2b2o3bo6bo4bo4b2o2b
2o6bo2bo2b2ob2o4bo5bobo5bo3bo4b2o11b4o$173ob2o6b2ob2o10b4o5b2o3bo2bo8b
3o3b2o6bobo6bo3bo6bo2b3o4bob4o4bobobo2b3ob2obo4b2ob2o9b3o5b2obobo$170b
o3bo11bo10bo2bo13bo5bo10bo15b2ob2o2bo2bo4bo3bo5bobo2b2obo5bo2b4o5bo3bo
15b2o5b4o$168obob2obo9bobo2b2obo6bo2bo5b2obo2bo2b3o3bo8bo2bo2bo9bob5o
3bobo2bob2o4bo3bo2bo7bo6bobob4o3b2o15bo4bo3bo$168b2o3b4o9bobobo4bo3bob
o6b4o2bo5bo2bo2bo4b2o2bo3bo3bo5bobo9bo2b2o6bo2b2ob2o2b3ob2obo3bob2ob2o
3b3o6b3o4b2ob2o2b2o3bo$166ob3o2b2o3b6o5b2ob4obo4bo9bobo3b3o4bo2bo8b3o
2b3o7bo12b3o2bo2b2obo5b4o4bo2b3o9bo7bobo4bo4bob2o$166bobo2b2o5b2o12bo
3bo4bobo4b2obobo4bo6b3o3b3o6bo2bo7bo3bob3o2bob3o2b2ob2obo6b3o4b2ob2o2b
o10b2o3bob2o14bo$165o3bo3bo6bo2b2o9b2o13bo3bo5b3o4bo7bo7bo9bo8b2ob2o4b
2o2bobob2ob2o4b2obo2b5o9b3o5bobo4bobo3bobo$165b4obo8bob4obo6bo4bo3bob
2o2b2obo2bobo2bo6b2o16b2o3b4o2b2o4bo2bobo4b4obo4bo2b2o3bo4bo2bo9bo6b3o
bo2bo2bo$163o3b3o2b6o3bobob3o7b2o8bob2o6bobo2b2o5bobo14bobo3b2o3b4o3b
3o11b2o5bo4bo2b3o3b2o10b2o4bo7b2o$163bo7bo2b2obo4bo7b2o5b2o7b2o5bo2bo
2b2o6b3o2b2obo2b3o3bo4b2o8bo13b2obobo2b2o5bob2obo5bobo5b2o5bo4b2ob2o$
163o3b3o2bo5b2o4b8o6bo6bo2bo6b3o5bo4bob2ob2o3bob2o8bo4bob3o6b4o2bob3ob
o2bob2obo7bo5b3o5b2o6bo3b3o2bo$162b2o2b3o4b2o2b2o5b2o5bo5b2o5b2o10bo3b
2o6b3ob2o2b4o6bobo9bo4b2obo3b2o4bo4bo2b2o2bo2bo8bob2o17bo2bo$161o13bob
o11b3o7bo3b2o3bob2o2b3o7bo4b2o9b3o4bob2o2b2o4bo3b2ob4obobo2bo2bobobo2b
obo3b3o7b2o6b2ob2o9bo$161bo2bobo3b2o3bo12bo2bo10b3o10bo5bobo15bobo7b3o
bo5b3o4b3o3bo3bo2bo2b2ob3o3bo17b2ob3ob2obo$160obo3bo2b10o3bobo6b2o2bo
4bo3b3o2b4o3b2o9b4o5bo3bobo2b2o4b2o5b6o15b2o4bobob3obo2bo16bob3o2b3o$
163b2o5bob2o3b3ob2obobo4b2obo4b2o8bo5b2o5b2o2b4o5bo4bo2b2o8bob2obobo2b
o3b3o8b3o3bo4bo5b2o7bo4b3o2b2o3b3o$158obo5bob3obo2bo4bo3b3obo4bo7bob3o
4b2o4bo2bo3b2o6bo2bo9b2o8bobo2bob2obo2b2ob2ob5o3bo4bobo7bo7b3o10bobob
2o$159b2obo24bo4bobo4b2ob2o5bo7b2o4b2o7b2o9b2ob2obo11b3o2bo2b3o8bobobo
11bo2bo3bo2bo11b3o$157o2bob3o5bo4bo9b2ob2o4b2o15b3o3bo15b2o3bo5b3o3b2o
2b2ob2o6bobobo2bo6b2o4b4o10b2o7bo5b2o3b2o$161bo8b2ob2o9bo2b2o5b2obo2b
3o2b2o3bo6b2o6bo8b2o5bo2b4ob2ob3o4b2o2b2o2bo5bob2ob2o8bo9bo6b2o2bo2b3o
$155obob2o13bo2b3o6b2obo6bo2bob3o2b3o11bo14b2o4b2o6b3o2bo4b5o7bo2bob2o
bobobo4bo4bo7bo4bo2b2o5bo$158bo3b7o3bo2bo5b2o5b2o5bo2bob2o5bo2b2o6b2o
2bo3bo3bo5bo3bo9bo7b3ob5obo2bob3o6b2o3bo2bo8bobo4b5o$154o3b2o3b3o2b2o
5b8obo4bo9bob2o2b3o4bo2bo5bo2b6ob2o6b2o5bo10b2o4bo5bo7bobo4b2o5b3o5b2o
6b2o2bob3o$153bo4bo5bo5bo7bo10bo5b4obo6bo3b2obo4b2o3bo2bo2bo6b3o5b5o3b
obo6bo4bo3b2o3b2o5bo9bobo5bo11b3o$152o3bo3bo6bobo2bo7b3o7b3o2bo3b3o3b
2obo4bo7bo10bo10bob5o4bo2bo5bobo2b2o4bo2bob2o3b2o8bo9b2o4bo$151b2o8b2o
3bo6bo6bobo7b4ob2o3bo3bo7b3o16b2o3bo2bobo2bo6b2o4b4o6b3o2bobobo4bo2bo
8bo2bo3b2ob2o3bo2bo$150o2bo2b6o2bo3bo3bobo7bo2b2o4b2o8b2ob3o7bo2bo9bo
3bobo2bo5bo2bo2b4o12bo5b2o4bo3b2o2b3o10bo3b2o4b2o3bo$150bo6b2o5b2o2b2o
5bob2o4b3o9bo4bo2b2ob3o4bo3b5o3bobo3bo3bo5bo7bo3b2o4b2o15b2o2bo4b2obo
12b2o3bo4bo$149o4bobo3b2obo7bo2b4o6bo7bo2bo6bob2obo7bo20b3o6b3o4b4o2b
2obo3bo2bo2bobo3b3o7bo7b2o10bo4bo$149b2o2bobo4b4obo4bo7bo5b2o5b3obo4bo
2bo4b2o4bo4b2o2b2o3bo6bo4bo4b2o2b2o6bo2bo2b2ob2o4bo5bobo5bo3bo4b2o11b
4o$151ob2o6b2ob2o10b4o5b2o3bo2bo8b3o3b2o6bobo6bo3bo6bo2b3o4bob4o4bobob
o2b3ob2obo4b2ob2o9b3o5b2obobo$148bo3bo11bo10bo2bo13bo5bo10bo15b2ob2o2b
o2bo4bo3bo5bobo2b2obo5bo2b4o5bo3bo15b2o5b4o$146obob2obo9bobo2b2obo6bo
2bo5b2obo2bo2b3o3bo8bo2bo2bo9bob5o3bobo2bob2o4bo3bo2bo7bo6bobob4o3b2o
15bo4bo3bo$146b2o3b4o9bobobo4bo3bobo6b4o2bo5bo2bo2bo4b2o2bo3bo3bo5bobo
9bo2b2o6bo2b2ob2o2b3ob2obo3bob2ob2o3b3o6b3o4b2ob2o2b2o3bo$144ob3o2b2o
3b6o5b2ob4obo4bo9bobo3b3o4bo2bo8b3o2b3o7bo12b3o2bo2b2obo5b4o4bo2b3o9bo
7bobo4bo4bob2o$144bobo2b2o5b2o12bo3bo4bobo4b2obobo4bo6b3o3b3o6bo2bo7bo
3bob3o2bob3o2b2ob2obo6b3o4b2ob2o2bo10b2o3bob2o14bo$143o3bo3bo6bo2b2o9b
2o13bo3bo5b3o4bo7bo7bo9bo8b2ob2o4b2o2bobob2ob2o4b2obo2b5o9b3o5bobo4bob
o3bobo$143b4obo8bob4obo6bo4bo3bob2o2b2obo2bobo2bo6b2o16b2o3b4o2b2o4bo
2bobo4b4obo4bo2b2o3bo4bo2bo9bo6b3obo2bo2bo$141o3b3o2b6o3bobob3o7b2o8bo
b2o6bobo2b2o5bobo14bobo3b2o3b4o3b3o11b2o5bo4bo2b3o3b2o10b2o4bo7b2o$
141bo7bo2b2obo4bo7b2o5b2o7b2o5bo2bo2b2o6b3o2b2obo2b3o3bo4b2o8bo13b2obo
bo2b2o5bob2obo5bobo5b2o5bo4b2ob2o$141o3b3o2bo5b2o4b8o6bo6bo2bo6b3o5bo
4bob2ob2o3bob2o8bo4bob3o6b4o2bob3obo2bob2obo7bo5b3o5b2o6bo3b3o2bo$140b
2o2b3o4b2o2b2o5b2o5bo5b2o5b2o10bo3b2o6b3ob2o2b4o6bobo9bo4b2obo3b2o4bo
4bo2b2o2bo2bo8bob2o17bo2bo$139o13bobo11b3o7bo3b2o3bob2o2b3o7bo4b2o9b3o
4bob2o2b2o4bo3b2ob4obobo2bo2bobobo2bobo3b3o7b2o6b2ob2o9bo$139bo2bobo3b
2o3bo12bo2bo10b3o10bo5bobo15bobo7b3obo5b3o4b3o3bo3bo2bo2b2ob3o3bo17b2o
b3ob2obo$138obo3bo2b10o3bobo6b2o2bo4bo3b3o2b4o3b2o9b4o5bo3bobo2b2o4b2o
5b6o15b2o4bobob3obo2bo16bob3o2b3o$141b2o5bob2o3b3ob2obobo4b2obo4b2o8bo
5b2o5b2o2b4o5bo4bo2b2o8bob2obobo2bo3b3o8b3o3bo4bo5b2o7bo4b3o2b2o3b3o$
136obo5bob3obo2bo4bo3b3obo4bo7bob3o4b2o4bo2bo3b2o6bo2bo9b2o8bobo2bob2o
bo2b2ob2ob5o3bo4bobo7bo7b3o10bobob2o$137b2obo24bo4bobo4b2ob2o5bo7b2o4b
2o7b2o9b2ob2obo11b3o2bo2b3o8bobobo11bo2bo3bo2bo11b3o$135o2bob3o5bo4bo
9b2ob2o4b2o15b3o3bo15b2o3bo5b3o3b2o2b2ob2o6bobobo2bo6b2o4b4o10b2o7bo5b
2o3b2o$139bo8b2ob2o9bo2b2o5b2obo2b3o2b2o3bo6b2o6bo8b2o5bo2b4ob2ob3o4b
2o2b2o2bo5bob2ob2o8bo9bo6b2o2bo2b3o$133obob2o13bo2b3o6b2obo6bo2bob3o2b
3o11bo14b2o4b2o6b3o2bo4b5o7bo2bob2obobobo4bo4bo7bo4bo2b2o5bo$136bo3b7o
3bo2bo5b2o5b2o5bo2bob2o5bo2b2o6b2o2bo3bo3bo5bo3bo9bo7b3ob5obo2bob3o6b
2o3bo2bo8bobo4b5o$132o3b2o3b3o2b2o5b8obo4bo9bob2o2b3o4bo2bo5bo2b6ob2o
6b2o5bo10b2o4bo5bo7bobo4b2o5b3o5b2o6b2o2bob3o$131bo4bo5bo5bo7bo10bo5b
4obo6bo3b2obo4b2o3bo2bo2bo6b3o5b5o3bobo6bo4bo3b2o3b2o5bo9bobo5bo11b3o$
130o3bo3bo6bobo2bo7b3o7b3o2bo3b3o3b2obo4bo7bo10bo10bob5o4bo2bo5bobo2b
2o4bo2bob2o3b2o8bo9b2o4bo$129b2o8b2o3bo6bo6bobo7b4ob2o3bo3bo7b3o16b2o
3bo2bobo2bo6b2o4b4o6b3o2bobobo4bo2bo8bo2bo3b2ob2o3bo2bo$128o2bo2b6o2bo
3bo3bobo7bo2b2o4b2o8b2ob3o7bo2bo9bo3bobo2bo5bo2bo2b4o12bo5b2o4bo3b2o2b
3o10bo3b2o4b2o3bo$128bo6b2o5b2o2b2o5bob2o4b3o9bo4bo2b2ob3o4bo3b5o3bobo
3bo3bo5bo7bo3b2o4b2o15b2o2bo4b2obo12b2o3bo4bo$127o4bobo3b2obo7bo2b4o6b
o7bo2bo6bob2obo7bo20b3o6b3o4b4o2b2obo3bo2bo2bobo3b3o7bo7b2o10bo4bo$
127b2o2bobo4b4obo4bo7bo5b2o5b3obo4bo2bo4b2o4bo4b2o2b2o3bo6bo4bo4b2o2b
2o6bo2bo2b2ob2o4bo5bobo5bo3bo4b2o11b4o$129ob2o6b2ob2o10b4o5b2o3bo2bo8b
3o3b2o6bobo6bo3bo6bo2b3o4bob4o4bobobo2b3ob2obo4b2ob2o9b3o5b2obobo$126b
o3bo11bo10bo2bo13bo5bo10bo15b2ob2o2bo2bo4bo3bo5bobo2b2obo5bo2b4o5bo3bo
15b2o5b4o$124obob2obo9bobo2b2obo6bo2bo5b2obo2bo2b3o3bo8bo2bo2bo9bob5o
3bobo2bob2o4bo3bo2bo7bo6bobob4o3b2o15bo4bo3bo$124b2o3b4o9bobobo4bo3bob
o6b4o2bo5bo2bo2bo4b2o2bo3bo3bo5bobo9bo2b2o6bo2b2ob2o2b3ob2obo3bob2ob2o
3b3o6b3o4b2ob2o2b2o3bo$122ob3o2b2o3b6o5b2ob4obo4bo9bobo3b3o4bo2bo8b3o
2b3o7bo12b3o2bo2b2obo5b4o4bo2b3o9bo7bobo4bo4bob2o$122bobo2b2o5b2o12bo
3bo4bobo4b2obobo4bo6b3o3b3o6bo2bo7bo3bob3o2bob3o2b2ob2obo6b3o4b2ob2o2b
o10b2o3bob2o14bo$121o3bo3bo6bo2b2o9b2o13bo3bo5b3o4bo7bo7bo9bo8b2ob2o4b
2o2bobob2ob2o4b2obo2b5o9b3o5bobo4bobo3bobo$121b4obo8bob4obo6bo4bo3bob
2o2b2obo2bobo2bo6b2o16b2o3b4o2b2o4bo2bobo4b4obo4bo2b2o3bo4bo2bo9bo6b3o
bo2bo2bo$119o3b3o2b6o3bobob3o7b2o8bob2o6bobo2b2o5bobo14bobo3b2o3b4o3b
3o11b2o5bo4bo2b3o3b2o10b2o4bo7b2o$119bo7bo2b2obo4bo7b2o5b2o7b2o5bo2bo
2b2o6b3o2b2obo2b3o3bo4b2o8bo13b2obobo2b2o5bob2obo5bobo5b2o5bo4b2ob2o$
119o3b3o2bo5b2o4b8o6bo6bo2bo6b3o5bo4bob2ob2o3bob2o8bo4bob3o6b4o2bob3ob
o2bob2obo7bo5b3o5b2o6bo3b3o2bo$118b2o2b3o4b2o2b2o5b2o5bo5b2o5b2o10bo3b
2o6b3ob2o2b4o6bobo9bo4b2obo3b2o4bo4bo2b2o2bo2bo8bob2o17bo2bo$117o13bob
o11b3o7bo3b2o3bob2o2b3o7bo4b2o9b3o4bob2o2b2o4bo3b2ob4obobo2bo2bobobo2b
obo3b3o7b2o6b2ob2o9bo$117bo2bobo3b2o3bo12bo2bo10b3o10bo5bobo15bobo7b3o
bo5b3o4b3o3bo3bo2bo2b2ob3o3bo17b2ob3ob2obo$116obo3bo2b10o3bobo6b2o2bo
4bo3b3o2b4o3b2o9b4o5bo3bobo2b2o4b2o5b6o15b2o4bobob3obo2bo16bob3o2b3o$
119b2o5bob2o3b3ob2obobo4b2obo4b2o8bo5b2o5b2o2b4o5bo4bo2b2o8bob2obobo2b
o3b3o8b3o3bo4bo5b2o7bo4b3o2b2o3b3o$114obo5bob3obo2bo4bo3b3obo4bo7bob3o
4b2o4bo2bo3b2o6bo2bo9b2o8bobo2bob2obo2b2ob2ob5o3bo4bobo7bo7b3o10bobob
2o$115b2obo24bo4bobo4b2ob2o5bo7b2o4b2o7b2o9b2ob2obo11b3o2bo2b3o8bobobo
11bo2bo3bo2bo11b3o$113o2bob3o5bo4bo9b2ob2o4b2o15b3o3bo15b2o3bo5b3o3b2o
2b2ob2o6bobobo2bo6b2o4b4o10b2o7bo5b2o3b2o$117bo8b2ob2o9bo2b2o5b2obo2b
3o2b2o3bo6b2o6bo8b2o5bo2b4ob2ob3o4b2o2b2o2bo5bob2ob2o8bo9bo6b2o2bo2b3o
$111obob2o13bo2b3o6b2obo6bo2bob3o2b3o11bo14b2o4b2o6b3o2bo4b5o7bo2bob2o
bobobo4bo4bo7bo4bo2b2o5bo$114bo3b7o3bo2bo5b2o5b2o5bo2bob2o5bo2b2o6b2o
2bo3bo3bo5bo3bo9bo7b3ob5obo2bob3o6b2o3bo2bo8bobo4b5o$110o3b2o3b3o2b2o
5b8obo4bo9bob2o2b3o4bo2bo5bo2b6ob2o6b2o5bo10b2o4bo5bo7bobo4b2o5b3o5b2o
6b2o2bob3o$109bo4bo5bo5bo7bo10bo5b4obo6bo3b2obo4b2o3bo2bo2bo6b3o5b5o3b
obo6bo4bo3b2o3b2o5bo9bobo5bo11b3o$108o3bo3bo6bobo2bo7b3o7b3o2bo3b3o3b
2obo4bo7bo10bo10bob5o4bo2bo5bobo2b2o4bo2bob2o3b2o8bo9b2o4bo$107b2o8b2o
3bo6bo6bobo7b4ob2o3bo3bo7b3o16b2o3bo2bobo2bo6b2o4b4o6b3o2bobobo4bo2bo
8bo2bo3b2ob2o3bo2bo$106o2bo2b6o2bo3bo3bobo7bo2b2o4b2o8b2ob3o7bo2bo9bo
3bobo2bo5bo2bo2b4o12bo5b2o4bo3b2o2b3o10bo3b2o4b2o3bo$106bo6b2o5b2o2b2o
5bob2o4b3o9bo4bo2b2ob3o4bo3b5o3bobo3bo3bo5bo7bo3b2o4b2o15b2o2bo4b2obo
12b2o3bo4bo$105o4bobo3b2obo7bo2b4o6bo7bo2bo6bob2obo7bo20b3o6b3o4b4o2b
2obo3bo2bo2bobo3b3o7bo7b2o10bo4bo$105b2o2bobo4b4obo4bo7bo5b2o5b3obo4bo
2bo4b2o4bo4b2o2b2o3bo6bo4bo4b2o2b2o6bo2bo2b2ob2o4bo5bobo5bo3bo4b2o11b
4o$107ob2o6b2ob2o10b4o5b2o3bo2bo8b3o3b2o6bobo6bo3bo6bo2b3o4bob4o4bobob
o2b3ob2obo4b2ob2o9b3o5b2obobo$104bo3bo11bo10bo2bo13bo5bo10bo15b2ob2o2b
o2bo4bo3bo5bobo2b2obo5bo2b4o5bo3bo15b2o5b4o$102obob2obo9bobo2b2obo6bo
2bo5b2obo2bo2b3o3bo8bo2bo2bo9bob5o3bobo2bob2o4bo3bo2bo7bo6bobob4o3b2o
15bo4bo3bo$102b2o3b4o9bobobo4bo3bobo6b4o2bo5bo2bo2bo4b2o2bo3bo3bo5bobo
9bo2b2o6bo2b2ob2o2b3ob2obo3bob2ob2o3b3o6b3o4b2ob2o2b2o3bo$100ob3o2b2o
3b6o5b2ob4obo4bo9bobo3b3o4bo2bo8b3o2b3o7bo12b3o2bo2b2obo5b4o4bo2b3o9bo
7bobo4bo4bob2o$100bobo2b2o5b2o12bo3bo4bobo4b2obobo4bo6b3o3b3o6bo2bo7bo
3bob3o2bob3o2b2ob2obo6b3o4b2ob2o2bo10b2o3bob2o14bo$99o3bo3bo6bo2b2o9b
2o13bo3bo5b3o4bo7bo7bo9bo8b2ob2o4b2o2bobob2ob2o4b2obo2b5o9b3o5bobo4bob
o3bobo$99b4obo8bob4obo6bo4bo3bob2o2b2obo2bobo2bo6b2o16b2o3b4o2b2o4bo2b
obo4b4obo4bo2b2o3bo4bo2bo9bo6b3obo2bo2bo$97o3b3o2b6o3bobob3o7b2o8bob2o
6bobo2b2o5bobo14bobo3b2o3b4o3b3o11b2o5bo4bo2b3o3b2o10b2o4bo7b2o$97bo7b
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2o5b6o15b2o4bobob3obo2bo16bob3o2b3o!

amling
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Re: amling questionable searches/ideas firehose

Post by amling » June 25th, 2023, 5:58 pm

I rewrote LLSSS recentering's handling of "bumpers" to just be the same edges as used by fixed-board LLSSS. This is sort of a weird feature, but I can imagine searches to use it, especially searches that are fixed on one side.

As an example, I am now looking at trying to find 2c/5 perpendicular greyship front corners by...

(*) Start with "almost all zeros", which is slightly better than starting with all zeros and using the W cycle avoiding filter. It's a shame sketching the input files is so painful.

(*) Using a left edge of odd or even symmetry.

(*) Using a left closure of U copy or U toggle. This allows it to consider both all-zeros as free and any combination of mixed chicken wire as free. It also lets it consider "line ships" bits free although that is an unintended side-effect.

(*) Using a custom ends that will print out patterns where it has found a thin greyship joint some number of W rows back. More W rows back requires more downwards viability while upwards viability is sort of guaranteed by the front corner above it.

No hits yet although I haven't really started searching in earnest and have mostly just been running test searches to prototype all the mechanisms.

As an example a search for an input like:

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|                                   |                                   | ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ | ................................. | ................................. |
| ................................. | ................................. | ................................. | ................................. | ................................. |
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| **WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW.. |                                   |                                   |                                   |                                   |
And an even left edge can find a ship like this, even with low "mid_steps" (which you can think of as the width of the interesting part of the ship):

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#C [[ TRACK 0 -2/5 ]]
x = 40, y = 50, rule = B3/S23
19b2o$16bob4obo$14bo3bo2bo3bo$13b2o10b2o$12b2o2bo6bo2b2o$12bob2o8b2obo
$14bobo6bobo$15b3o4b3o$12b2o2b2o4b2o2b2o$12b3o10b3o$13bo3bo4bo3bo$17bo
4bo$10b2ob2obo6bob2ob2o$8b2ob2o2b10o2b2ob2o$8b2ob2o4b2o2b2o4b2ob2o$9bo
6bo2b2o2bo6bo$8b3o5bobo2bobo5b3o$9b2o4bo8bo4b2o$15b10o$15b10o$12bo14bo
$11bobo12bobo$10b2ob2o3b4o3b2ob2o$11bo5b2o2b2o5bo$11bo4bo2b2o2bo4bo$
11bo4b2ob2ob2o4bo$12bob4o4b4obo2$18b4o$13b2o3b4o3b2o$13bo5b2o5bo$12bo
3b2o4b2o3bo$13b3o8b3o$11bo16bo$12b3o10b3o$14b2o8b2o$10b2ob2o10b2ob2o$
9bo3bobo8bobo3bo$8bo22bo$8b2o20b2o$9bob2o14b2obo$10bo18bo$9b2o18b2o$6b
2o24b2o$2bo3bo2bo20bo2bo3bo$2ob2o2bobo20bobo2b2ob2o$2ob2o2bobo20bobo2b
2ob2o$bo36bo$3o34b3o$b2o34b2o!
A random even 2c/5 ship is likely not interesting, but it demonstrates how this sort of search might succeed. This was with mid_steps=12 which sort of corresponds to width 13 but given it double-counting the center column pair maybe width 12. Either way the resulting ship is a lot wider at the bottom because it has snaked off.

EDIT: And already a "real" hit, although perhaps of unclear viability:

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x = 21, y = 79, rule = B3/S23
10bo$4bo4bobo4bo$3bobo2bo3bo2bobo$2b2ob2o2bobo2b2ob2o$3bob2o7b2obo$3bo
2bo7bo2bo$3bo2b2o5b2o2bo$4bo3b2ob2o3bo$4bob2obobob2obo$3b2o2bobobobo2b
2o$3bob2o2bobo2b2obo$2b2o3bobobobo3b2o$2b2o2b2obobob2o2b2o$3bo2bob2ob
2obo2bo$3b3o2b2ob2o2b3o$10bo$3b2o11b2o$2bo2bo9bo2bo$2bo2bobo5bobo2bo$b
2obo2b2o3b2o2bob2o$2bobob3o3b3obobo$b3obo9bob3o$4bo11bo$bo2b2o9b2o2bo$
bob2o11b2obo$3b2o11b2o2$3b2ob2o5b2ob2o$4bobob2ob2obobo$2bo3bo2bobo2bo
3bo$3b2ob2obobob2ob2o$4b3o2bobo2b3o$9bobo$2bobo3b2ob2o3bobo$bob5obobob
5obo$4bob4ob4obo$4b2ob2o3b2ob2o$2bobo11bobo2$2bo15bo$2bo6b3o6bo$5bo3b
3o3bo$3bobo2bo3bo2bobo$2b2o2bob2ob2obo2b2o$2b3o2bo5bo2b3o$3b4ob2ob2ob
4o$5bo9bo$5bob3ob3obo$9bobo$5b2o2bobo2b2o$2b2ob2obo3bob2ob2o$2b2o13b2o
$bobo13bobo2$2b3o11b3o$3b2o11b2o$b4o11b4o$2o17b2o$2o8bo8b2o$4bo4b3o4bo
$3bob2o7b2obo$3bo5bobo5bo$5bobo5bobo$4b2o9b2o$5b2o7b2o$3bo3b2o3b2o3bo$
7bo2bo2bo$7b7o$4b2o9b2o$6b9o$3bo13bo$2b17o$2bo15bo$2b17o$3b2o11b2o$7b
7o$6bo7bo$7b7o$6b2obobob2o!
You can see the choice of thin joint 10 W rows back:

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TBD how picky we can be about downwards viability and spacing on the left side (more columns of perpendicular strips would be better generally).

amling
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Re: amling questionable searches/ideas firehose

Post by amling » June 27th, 2023, 9:38 pm

amling wrote:
June 21st, 2023, 8:03 pm
I realized there is an obvious choice for a c/6 greyship level edge, namely a certain c/1 x p5 edge (seen the other direction in c/4 greyships). Unfortunately LGOL searches, uh, "refused to engage the edge", a failure mode I have seen in such searches before. Longest partial for "wx" 10, "mx" 14:

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x = 18, y = 17, rule = B3/S23
obobobo2bo$obobobob2o$obobobobobo4bo$obobobobobo3bobo$obobobo7bobo$obo
bobo2bo5bo$obobobob2o$obobobobobo3b3o$obobobobobo3b3o$obobobo7bobo$obo
bobo2bo$obobobob2o6b2o$obobobobobo$obobobobobo2b5o$obobobo8b3o$obobobo
bo2bobo$obobobob2o7bo!
I may yet be able to do some tricks to force a better engage, we'll see.
LLSSS recentering is better at almost everything LGOL can do, including refusing to engage the prompt...

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x = 40, y = 51, rule = B3/S23
obobobobobobobobobobo2bo$obobobobobobobobobobob2o$obobobobobobobobobob
obobo11bo$obobobobobobobobobobobobo9bo3bo$obobobobobobobobobobo13bo3bo
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bobobobobobobobobo13bo$obobobobobobobobobobobobo10bobo$obobobobobobobo
bobobo15bo$obobobobobobobobobobo2bo$obobobobobobobobobobob2o12bobo$obo
bobobobobobobobobobobo11bob2o$obobobobobobobobobobobobo13b2o$obobobobo
bobobobobobo17b2o$obobobobobobobobobobo2bo11bobo$obobobobobobobobobobo
b2o11b3o$obobobobobobobobobobobobo$obobobobobobobobobobobobo9bo$obobob
obobobobobobobo13bo$obobobobobobobobobobo2bo10bo$obobobobobobobobobobo
b2o11bo$obobobobobobobobobobobobo10bobo$obobobobobobobobobobobobo13bo$
obobobobobobobobobobo13bo2bo$obobobobobobobobobobo2bo9b2o2bo$obobobobo
bobobobobobob2o8bo$obobobobobobobobobobobobo$obobobobobobobobobobobobo
7bo2bo$obobobobobobobobobobo13b2o$obobobobobobobobobobo2bo10b2o$obobob
obobobobobobobob2o7bo2bo$obobobobobobobobobobobobo6bob2o$obobobobobobo
bobobobobobo8bo$obobobobobobobobobobo10bo$obobobobobobobobobobo2bo7b3o
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obobobobobobobobobobo6b2o2bo$obobobobobobobobobobo9bo2b2o$obobobobobob
obobobobo2bo4bo5bo$obobobobobobobobobobob2o4b2o$obobobobobobobobobobob
obo5bo$obobobobobobobobobobobobo5bo$obobobobobobobobobobo6b2obo2bo$obo
bobobobobobobobobo2bo3b2o3b2o$obobobobobobobobobobob2o6b4o$obobobobobo
bobobobobobobo5b2obo$obobobobobobobobobobobobo2b2o$obobobobobobobobobo
bo6b3o3b2o$obobobobobobobobobobo3bo4b2o!
Like comically better at not engaging the prompt... Fortunately the way I'm running the searches such refusals are sort of partitioned off into their own search and I can filter them out. The best result I got that actually engaged was:

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x = 29, y = 36, rule = B3/S23
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obobo$obobobobobobobobobobobobo$obobobobobobobobobobo$obobobobobobobob
obobo2bo$obobobobobobobobobobob2o$obobobobobobobobobobobobo$obobobobob
obobobobobobobo$obobobobobobobobobobo$obobobobobobobobobobo2bo$obobobo
bobobobobobobob2o$obobobobobobobobobobobobo$obobobobobobobobobobobobo$
obobobobobobobobobobo$obobobobobobobobobobo2bo$obobobobobobobobobobob
2o$obobobobobobobobobobobobo$obobobobobobobobobobobobo$obobobobobobobo
bobobo$obobobobobobobobobobobo$obobobobobobobobobobob2o$obobobobobobob
obobobo2b2o$obobobobobobobobobob2ob3o$obobobobobobobobo2bo3b3o$obobobo
bobobobobo9bo$obobobobobobobob2o2bobo2b3o$obobobobobobobobob5o3b2o$obo
bobobobobobobobo4b2o3bo$obobobobobobobobobo3b4o$obobobobobobobobob2o2b
obobo$obobobobobobobob2o2b3o4b2o$obobobobobobobo12bo$obobobobobobobo4b
2o7bo$obobobobobobobobo3bob6o$obobobobobobobob2o2b2o2b2ob2o!
Still not very good.

amling
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Re: amling questionable searches/ideas firehose

Post by amling » June 28th, 2023, 2:19 am

On a whim as part of the 2c/5 perpendicular greyship front corner search I tried a very specific even front but did not solve in 60G:

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x = 52, y = 39, rule = B3/S23
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2b4o2bo2bo3bobob2o$4b3o3bo2bo4b6ob2ob6o4bo2bo3b3o$3bo3bo2bob2o4b2o3b2o
2b2o3b2o4b2obo2bo3bo$2bobo5bo6bob2o2bo4bo2b2obo6bo5bobo$3bo10b2obo3b2o
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2o3b2o2bo3b2o$4bo10bo2b2ob2obo2bob2ob2o2bo10bo$6bo2b2obo2b3ob2obobo2bo
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o3bo3bobo$11bo2bo7b2o4b2o7bo2bo$4bo2bo9bo4b3o2b3o4bo9bo2bo$4bobo6b2ob
2o4b2o4b2o4b2ob2o6bobo$7b2o11b2obo4bob2o11b2o$4bo7b2obo2bo2bo8bo2bo2bo
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bo$3b2o5b3obo2bobo2b2o4b2o2bobo2bob3o5b2o$6bo3b3ob2o3b3o8b3o3b2ob3o3bo
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obobo2b2o2b3o6b3o2b2o2bobobo!
This would be a second non-monotonic 2c/5 front, but I'm probably not gonna try any harder to solve it (via creative splitting or branching) and go back to trying to figure out 2c/5 perpendicular greyships.

amling
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Re: amling questionable searches/ideas firehose

Post by amling » June 29th, 2023, 11:37 am

amling wrote:
June 25th, 2023, 5:58 pm
(about 2c/5 perpendicular greyship front corners)

[A] "real" hit, although perhaps of unclear viability:

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x = 21, y = 79, rule = B3/S23
10bo$4bo4bobo4bo$3bobo2bo3bo2bobo$2b2ob2o2bobo2b2ob2o$3bob2o7b2obo$3bo
2bo7bo2bo$3bo2b2o5b2o2bo$4bo3b2ob2o3bo$4bob2obobob2obo$3b2o2bobobobo2b
2o$3bob2o2bobo2b2obo$2b2o3bobobobo3b2o$2b2o2b2obobob2o2b2o$3bo2bob2ob
2obo2bo$3b3o2b2ob2o2b3o$10bo$3b2o11b2o$2bo2bo9bo2bo$2bo2bobo5bobo2bo$b
2obo2b2o3b2o2bob2o$2bobob3o3b3obobo$b3obo9bob3o$4bo11bo$bo2b2o9b2o2bo$
bob2o11b2obo$3b2o11b2o2$3b2ob2o5b2ob2o$4bobob2ob2obobo$2bo3bo2bobo2bo
3bo$3b2ob2obobob2ob2o$4b3o2bobo2b3o$9bobo$2bobo3b2ob2o3bobo$bob5obobob
5obo$4bob4ob4obo$4b2ob2o3b2ob2o$2bobo11bobo2$2bo15bo$2bo6b3o6bo$5bo3b
3o3bo$3bobo2bo3bo2bobo$2b2o2bob2ob2obo2b2o$2b3o2bo5bo2b3o$3b4ob2ob2ob
4o$5bo9bo$5bob3ob3obo$9bobo$5b2o2bobo2b2o$2b2ob2obo3bob2ob2o$2b2o13b2o
$bobo13bobo2$2b3o11b3o$3b2o11b2o$b4o11b4o$2o17b2o$2o8bo8b2o$4bo4b3o4bo
$3bob2o7b2obo$3bo5bobo5bo$5bobo5bobo$4b2o9b2o$5b2o7b2o$3bo3b2o3b2o3bo$
7bo2bo2bo$7b7o$4b2o9b2o$6b9o$3bo13bo$2b17o$2bo15bo$2b17o$3b2o11b2o$7b
7o$6bo7bo$7b7o$6b2obobob2o!
You can see the choice of thin joint 10 W rows back:

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TBD how picky we can be about downwards viability and spacing on the left side (more columns of perpendicular strips would be better generally).
Nothing better came up for what I ran. Trying to continuing that edge only worked so/so:

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x = 35, y = 108, rule = B3/S23
17bo$11bo4b3o4bo$9b2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2o$9b2o3bo5bo3b2o$10bo3bo5bo3bo$9b2o
13b2o$10b6o3b6o$10b2o4bobo4b2o$11bob2obobob2obo$10bo3bobobobo3bo$12b3o
bobob3o$12bobobobobobo$11bobo2bobo2bobo$13bo7bo$10b3ob2o3b2ob3o$12bo3b
3o3bo$10b2o11b2o$9bo2b2o7b2o2bo$9bob2ob2o3b2ob2obo$8b2obo11bob2o$11bob
obo3bobobo$8b2o2b3o5b3o2b2o$8bo17bo$9bo2bo9bo2bo2$9b3o11b3o$12bo9bo$
10b2ob3o3b3ob2o$11bobob2ob2obobo$11bobo2bobo2bobo$10b2o2bobobobo2b2o$
10b2ob2obobob2ob2o$10b2o4bobo4b2o$9bobob2obobob2obobo$9bo15bo$16bobo$
11bo4bobo4bo$10b3o9b3o$10bo13bo$17bo$16bobo$11bo3bo3bo3bo$9b2ob4o3b4ob
2o$12b2ob2ob2ob2o2$9bo3b3o3b3o3bo2$13bob2ob2obo$12bobobobobobo$11b6ob
6o$9b2ob3o5b3ob2o$8bo17bo$10bo13bo$11bo11bo$9bobo11bobo$8bo3bo9bo3bo$
7b2o2bo11bo2b2o$10bo13bo$7b2o7b3o7b2o$11b2o3b3o3b2o$10bobo3bobo3bobo$
12bo9bo$12b2o7b2o$11bo11bo$12b3o5b3o$14b2o3b2o$13bo3bo3bo$13b9o$12bo9b
o$11b13o$9b2o13b2o$9bob13obo$8bo17bo$8bo3b11o3bo$9bo15bo$10bo3b7o3bo$
13bo7bo$7bo4bob7obo4bo$6b3o2b2o9b2o2b3o$6bo4bo2b7o2bo4bo$8b2ob3o7b3ob
2o$9bo4b7o4bo$3b3o4bo2bo7bo2bo4b3o$3bob2o3b2o2b7o2b2o3b2obo$3bobo4b4o
7b4o4bobo$5bob3o4b7o4b3obo$5bo3b5o7b5o3bo$3b3obob2o3b7o3b2obob3o$b2o3b
o3b4o7b4o3bo3b2o$5b2ob2obo2b7o2bob2ob2o$2b3o4bo3bo7bo3bo4b3o$obo3b2o6b
7o6b2o3bobo$5bo3b5o7b5o3bo$5bobobo4b7o4bobobo$4b2ob2o2b3o7b3o2b2ob2o$
3bobo3bobo2b7o2bobo3bobo$2b2obobobob3o7b3obobobob2o$bo5bo6b7o6bo5bo$2o
6bo3b2o7b2o3bo6b2o$4o5bo4b7o4bo5b4o$2o2b5o2b3o7b3o2b5o2b2o$bob3obo2bo
3b7o3bo2bob3obo$b2o3bo4b2o9b2o4bo3b2o$o5b2o3b2ob7ob2o3b2o5bo$4bobob2o
3bo7bo3b2obobo$ob2o10b7o10b2obo$o2b2o2bo2b2obo7bob2o2bo2b2o2bo$o2b3obo
4b11o4bob3o2bo!
So I guess back to the drawing board...

amling
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Re: amling questionable searches/ideas firehose

Post by amling » June 30th, 2023, 2:50 am

amling wrote:
June 28th, 2023, 8:34 pm
3c/7 I don't see any [non-monotonic] examples of and I will probably take a look at, at least a little.
I ran a few things. The particulars of how the searches are set up with wildcard initial conditions made it hard to run odd and even searches and so I only ran them where the row about to fall back is the earliest nonzero W row. This is not guaranteed to be true in general, but e.g. it was for longest asymmetric partials (even when allowing higher W rows). I have since written more fancy code to allow doing the full search but I don't think I'm gonna go back and do it (probably choosing instead to chase 3c/6 or 4c/8 non-monotonic).

Due to the way it was set up I had to run even and odd searches split up with a few would-be-wildcards manually filled. The problem is the CA checking that is done for wildcard initial conditions doesn't understand symmetry at the edges and so any wildcards in the left two columns are not checked completely. I instead made many copies of the input files, one for each legal choice of wildcards in those two columns.

The best result, by far, was odd symmetry for one particular setup:

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x = 31, y = 42, rule = B3/S23
15bo$6bo8bo8bo$5b3o5b5o5b3o$5bo2bob3o5b3obo2bo$7b2ob3o5b3ob2o$8bo2b2o
5b2o2bo$12bo5bo$10b3o5b3o$4b2o3b3o7b3o3b2o$4bobo3b2o7b2o3bobo$6bobob2o
7b2obobo$2bo2bo3bo4b3o4bo3bo2bo$b3o9bobobo9b3o$bo5bo4b2o3b2o4bo5bo$2b
5obo2bo3bo3bo2bob5o$2b3o6bo2b3o2bo6b3o$8bo2bo2bobo2bo2bo$5bo2bo2b2o5b
2o2bo2bo$5bo4b2o7b2o4bo$5b2o17b2o$11b2o5b2o$9bobo2bobo2bobo$4b3o7bobo
7b3o$4bo3b2o4bobo4b2o3bo$3bo2bo7bobo7bo2bo$4bo2bo2b2o7b2o2bo2bo$4bo4b
3ob2ob2ob3o4bo$5bo2bobo9bobo2bo$7b3o11b3o$9b3o7b3o$4b2o2b3o9b3o2b2o$3b
ob2obo13bob2obo$2b2o3bo3bo7bo3bo3b2o$2b2ob5ob2o5b2ob5ob2o$2bo2b2ob2o4b
obo4b2ob2o2bo$2bobo7bobobobo7bobo$2bobob3o5bobo5b3obobo$2b2obobobo3bo
3bo3bobobob2o$3bobo4bo9bo4bobo$2b2o2b2o4b2o3b2o4b2o2b2o$3ob5o3b2obob2o
3b5ob3o$8bobobob3obobobo!
Second, far behind it, was a different choice for odd symmetry:

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x = 33, y = 27, rule = B3/S23
9bo13bo$8bo2bo9bo2bo$7b2o2b2o2b3o2b2o2b2o$7bo3b4o3b4o3bo$12bobobobobo$
5b5o4bobobo4b5o$13b3ob3o$8b4o9b4o$5bo2bob2o2b2ob2o2b2obo2bo$4bo8bo5bo
8bo$4bo3bo4bobobobo4bo3bo$3bo3b2o4b2o3b2o4b2o3bo$2b2o4b4o9b4o4b2o$8b4o
9b4o$b3o4bo2b3o5b3o2bo4b3o$5o3b3ob2o5b2ob3o3b5o$2obo11bobo11bob2o$3bob
2o3bo2bobobobo2bo3b2obo$4b5o6bobo6b5o$b2obobo2b2o2b2o3b2o2b2o2bobob2o$
2b2o5b2o2b2o3b2o2b2o5b2o$4bo3bob2o4bo4b2obo3bo$bobo3b3o6bo6b3o3bobo$o
10b5ob5o10bo$o2bo2b2o4bob2ob2obo4b2o2bo2bo$2bo2b2obo7bo7bob2o2bo$o2bo
2bo2b3obob3obob3o2bo2bo2bo!
Then this even symmetry:

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x = 34, y = 24, rule = B3/S23
8bo16bo$7bo2bo12bo2bo$6b2o2b2o4b2o4b2o2b2o$10b6o2b6o$5bo8b6o8bo$8bob3o
8b3obo$4bobo2bo4bo4bo4bo2bobo$5bo3bo3b2o4b2o3bo3bo$4b2o4b2ob2o4b2ob2o
4b2o$4bo7bobob2obobo7bo$3bo12b2o12bo$4b4o3bo10bo3b4o$4bob2ob4o8b4ob2ob
o$4bo24bo$2bo3b2o3b2o8b2o3b2o3bo$2b2o2bobo2b2o8b2o2bobo2b2o$bob2o4bo3b
o6bo3bo4b2obo$b3obo2b2obob2o4b2obob2o2bob3o$o12bob4obo12bo$2bob2o3bo5b
4o5bo3b2obo$2b4o2b2o2bo8bo2b2o2b4o$obo5b2o2bo2b4o2bo2b2o5bobo$o2bo7bo
10bo7bo2bo$2b5obob2obobo2bobob2obob5o!
Several more behind is the best asymmetric result:

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x = 22, y = 30, rule = B3/S23
6$13bo$11bo2bo$3b3o4b2o2b2o$3b3o4b2o3bo$3bobo4bo$4bo5bo4bo$2bob3o3bob
2ob2o$13bo3bo$8b2o5b2o2$5bo2bobo3bobo$4bob2o2b4obob2o$5b3ob2obo2bobobo
$6bobo3b2o5b2o$7bo6b3o2b2o$5b2obobo2bobo!

amling
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Re: amling questionable searches/ideas firehose

Post by amling » June 30th, 2023, 9:59 pm

amling wrote:
June 30th, 2023, 2:50 am
amling wrote:
June 28th, 2023, 8:34 pm
3c/7 I don't see any [non-monotonic] examples of and I will probably take a look at, at least a little.
I ran a few things.

The best result, by far, was odd symmetry for one particular setup:

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x = 31, y = 42, rule = B3/S23
15bo$6bo8bo8bo$5b3o5b5o5b3o$5bo2bob3o5b3obo2bo$7b2ob3o5b3ob2o$8bo2b2o
5b2o2bo$12bo5bo$10b3o5b3o$4b2o3b3o7b3o3b2o$4bobo3b2o7b2o3bobo$6bobob2o
7b2obobo$2bo2bo3bo4b3o4bo3bo2bo$b3o9bobobo9b3o$bo5bo4b2o3b2o4bo5bo$2b
5obo2bo3bo3bo2bob5o$2b3o6bo2b3o2bo6b3o$8bo2bo2bobo2bo2bo$5bo2bo2b2o5b
2o2bo2bo$5bo4b2o7b2o4bo$5b2o17b2o$11b2o5b2o$9bobo2bobo2bobo$4b3o7bobo
7b3o$4bo3b2o4bobo4b2o3bo$3bo2bo7bobo7bo2bo$4bo2bo2b2o7b2o2bo2bo$4bo4b
3ob2ob2ob3o4bo$5bo2bobo9bobo2bo$7b3o11b3o$9b3o7b3o$4b2o2b3o9b3o2b2o$3b
ob2obo13bob2obo$2b2o3bo3bo7bo3bo3b2o$2b2ob5ob2o5b2ob5ob2o$2bo2b2ob2o4b
obo4b2ob2o2bo$2bobo7bobobobo7bobo$2bobob3o5bobo5b3obobo$2b2obobobo3bo
3bo3bobobob2o$3bobo4bo9bo4bobo$2b2o2b2o4b2o3b2o4b2o2b2o$3ob5o3b2obob2o
3b5ob3o$8bobobob3obobobo!
Ran as fixed board with that specific front it got a little farther:

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x = 33, y = 45, rule = B3/S23
16bo$7bo8bo8bo$6b3o5b5o5b3o$6bo2bob3o5b3obo2bo$8b2ob3o5b3ob2o$9bo2b2o
5b2o2bo$13bo5bo$11b3o5b3o$5b2o3b3o7b3o3b2o$5bobo3b2o7b2o3bobo$7bobob2o
7b2obobo$3bo2bo3bo4b3o4bo3bo2bo$2b3o9bobobo9b3o$2bo5bo4b2o3b2o4bo5bo$
3b5obo2bo3bo3bo2bob5o$3b3o6bo2b3o2bo6b3o$9bo2bo2bobo2bo2bo$6bo2bo2b2o
5b2o2bo2bo$6bo4b2o7b2o4bo$6b2o17b2o$12b2o5b2o$10bobo2bobo2bobo$5b3o7bo
bo7b3o$5bo3b2o4bobo4b2o3bo$4bo2bo7bobo7bo2bo$5bo2bo2b2o7b2o2bo2bo$5bo
4b3ob2ob2ob3o4bo$6bo2bobo9bobo2bo$8b3o11b3o$10bo2b3ob3o2bo$4b3ob2o5bob
o5b2ob3o$4b2o2b2o3bobobobo3b2o2b2o$4bobobo7bo7bobobo$3bo4bo2b2obo3bob
2o2bo4bo$2b4ob2o15b2ob4o$b2o5b2o4bo3bo4b2o5b2o$7bo4bo2b3o2bo4bo$6b3o
15b3o$2b3o3bo3b4ob4o3bo3b3o$bo4bo3bo4bobo4bo3bo4bo$3o4bobo4bo3bo4bobo
4b3o$3o5b3obobobobobob3o5b3o$8b3o2b7o2b3o$2o3bob2o2b2o3bo3b2o2b2obo3b
2o$3o2b2o3bo11bo3b2o2b3o!

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