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Re: Suggested LifeWiki edits

Post by rattlesnake » November 13th, 2022, 6:29 pm

Since guntrue_45 is no longer the smallest odd-period gun (this title belongs to guntrue_25), please update page p45 pi-heptomino hassler.

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Re: Suggested LifeWiki edits

Post by Ian07 » November 15th, 2022, 1:43 pm

rattlesnake wrote:
November 13th, 2022, 6:29 pm
Since guntrue_45 is no longer the smallest odd-period gun (this title belongs to guntrue_25), please update page p45 pi-heptomino hassler.
Done, thanks for pointing this out.

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Re: Suggested LifeWiki edits

Post by Bullet51 » November 16th, 2022, 2:39 am

What is the general rule on pattern optimization on LifeWiki?
There is a smaller variant of the P15_pre-pulsar_spaceship, both in terms of bounding box (39x51) and cells (252):

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x = 39, y = 51, rule = B3/S23
6bo25bo$4bo2bo23bo2bo$4bo2bo23bo2bo$2b2o4bo21bo4b2o$2b4o3bo19bo3b4o$4b
o4bo19bo4bo$4b2o27b2o$2bo4bo23bo4bo$2ob2o29b2ob2o$2bo2bo2bo21bo2bo2bo$
2bo5bo21bo5bo$6b2o23b2o$4bo29bo$6bo25bo2$4b2o27b2o$3b2o29b2o$2b2o31b2o
$4bo29bo$2b3o29b3o$5bo27bo$6b2o23b2o$6bo25bo$2b2o31b2o$2b2o4bo21bo4b2o
$bo6b2o19b2o6bo$2bob3o25b3obo2$7bo23bo$6bo25bo$3bobob2ob2o15b2ob2obobo
$2b2o6bo17bo6b2o$9bo19bo$2b3o4bo19bo4b3o$bo6b2o5b3o3b3o5b2o6bo$2bo6b2o
17b2o6bo$8bo4bo4bobo4bo4bo$8bo4bo4bobo4bo4bo$9b2o2bo4bobo4bo2b2o$9b2o
17b2o$8bo6b3o3b3o6bo$6bobo21bobo$4b5o21b5o$3bo3b2o21b2o3bo$2bo33bo$2bo
3bo25bo3bo$6bo25bo$5b3o23b3o$3b2o3bo21bo3b2o$b3o3bo23bo3b3o$b3o31b3o!
The optimization of the p8 heavyweight sparker results in title change of the page, but 48P9 is mentioned on the page without changing the title.
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Re: Suggested LifeWiki edits

Post by confocaloid » November 16th, 2022, 3:28 am

Bullet51 wrote:
November 16th, 2022, 2:39 am
What is the general rule on pattern optimization on LifeWiki?
There is a smaller variant of the P15_pre-pulsar_spaceship, both in terms of bounding box (39x51) and cells (252):

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rle
The optimization of the p8 heavyweight sparker results in title change of the page, but 48P9 is mentioned on the page without changing the title.
As far as I can tell, there's not much of a general rule to be followed. Maybe someone else can provide a better answer.

From a "purely logical" viewpoint, it might actually be more reasonable (and even more maintainable) to avoid "optimizing" patterns on LifeWiki, and prefer addition of new patterns instead of replacing/removing old versions of patterns (for example, create a new RLE instead of replacing/modifying an already existing RLE; create a new page for a new oscillator/spaceship instead of changing an existing page to describe a different thing).

Obviously things are not that simple, and having many pages has its own disadvantages. But that might still be better (and possibly easier to maintain) than (for example) having a single very long list page, or better than discarding old patterns.

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Re: Suggested LifeWiki edits

Post by Bullet51 » November 16th, 2022, 10:45 pm

Bullet51 wrote:
November 16th, 2022, 2:39 am

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#C Smaller (252 cells) p15 pre-pulsar spaceship.
#C The spaceship supporting the pre-pulsar reaction is discovered by Tim Coe:
#C https://conwaylife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2031&p=28770#p28770
x = 39, y = 51, rule = B3/S23
6bo25bo$4bo2bo23bo2bo$4bo2bo23bo2bo$2b2o4bo21bo4b2o$2b4o3bo19bo3b4o$4b
o4bo19bo4bo$4b2o27b2o$2bo4bo23bo4bo$2ob2o29b2ob2o$2bo2bo2bo21bo2bo2bo$
2bo5bo21bo5bo$6b2o23b2o$4bo29bo$6bo25bo2$4b2o27b2o$3b2o29b2o$2b2o31b2o
$4bo29bo$2b3o29b3o$5bo27bo$6b2o23b2o$6bo25bo$2b2o31b2o$2b2o4bo21bo4b2o
$bo6b2o19b2o6bo$2bob3o25b3obo2$7bo23bo$6bo25bo$3bobob2ob2o15b2ob2obobo
$2b2o6bo17bo6b2o$9bo19bo$2b3o4bo19bo4b3o$bo6b2o5b3o3b3o5b2o6bo$2bo6b2o
17b2o6bo$8bo4bo4bobo4bo4bo$8bo4bo4bobo4bo4bo$9b2o2bo4bobo4bo2b2o$9b2o
17b2o$8bo6b3o3b3o6bo$6bobo21bobo$4b5o21b5o$3bo3b2o21b2o3bo$2bo33bo$2bo
3bo25bo3bo$6bo25bo$5b3o23b3o$3b2o3bo21bo3b2o$b3o3bo23bo3b3o$b3o31b3o!
This pattern needs to be uploaded to LifeWiki to correct the # of cells of the smallest 3c/15 spaceship (252 instead of 494).
Still drifting.

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Re: Suggested LifeWiki edits

Post by rattlesnake » November 17th, 2022, 8:31 pm


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Re: Suggested LifeWiki edits

Post by Book » November 17th, 2022, 8:41 pm

rattlesnake wrote:
November 17th, 2022, 8:31 pm
https://conwaylife.com/patterns/period32glidergun.rle has a random cell at the top left.
Good catch; fixed

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Re: Suggested LifeWiki edits

Post by confocaloid » November 17th, 2022, 10:48 pm

rattlesnake wrote:
November 17th, 2022, 8:31 pm
https://conwaylife.com/patterns/period32glidergun.rle has a random cell at the top left.
Book wrote:
November 17th, 2022, 8:41 pm
Good catch; fixed
I think it was not a random cell, but rather an intentionally added extra cell to make the bounding box explicit. See post136951

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Re: Suggested LifeWiki edits

Post by rattlesnake » November 20th, 2022, 9:07 pm

https://conwaylife.com/patterns/eater2variant2.rle looks like:

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#C [[ GRID VIEWONLY ]]
x = 5, y = 10, rule = B3/S23
2o$bo$bo$2ob2o$3b2o2$2ob2o$bobo$bobo$2bo!
It should be

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#C [[ GRID VIEWONLY ]]
x = 5, y = 9, rule = B3/S23
2o$bo$bob2o$2ob2o2$2ob2o$bobo$bobo$2bo!

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Re: Suggested LifeWiki edits

Post by Book » November 20th, 2022, 9:11 pm

Good catch. Done.

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Re: Suggested LifeWiki edits

Post by rattlesnake » November 20th, 2022, 9:31 pm

SKOP 115 (93 cells):

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x = 25, y = 28, rule = B3/S23
4bo$4b3o4b2o$7bo3b2o$6b2o2$18b2o$2b2o14bo$2bo13bobo$4bo11b2o$3b2o6bo$
2bo6b3o$bob2o4bobo$o2bobo5bo$2o2bo2$15b2ob2o$8b2o5b2obobo$9bo8bobo$6b
3o6b2o3b2ob2o$6bo7bo2b2o5bo$14b2o3b2o$16b2obo$16bo2b4o$17bobo3bo$16b2o
bob2o$18bobo$18bobo$19bo!
SKOP 188 (68 cells):

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x = 37, y = 31, rule = B3/S23
13b2o$13b2o5$29b2o$29b2o$35b2o$3b2o15bo14bo$3b2o15bo12bobo$21bo11b2o$
14bo7bo$13bobo6b2o$13b2o6bobo$14bo7bo$2b2o11bo$bobo12bo15b2o$bo14bo15b
2o$2o$6b2o$6b2o4$7bobo$6bo15b2o$7bo2bo11b2o$7bobobo$8bo2bo$9b2o!
Please update SKOP, Oscillator.

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Re: Suggested LifeWiki edits

Post by Ian07 » November 21st, 2022, 10:13 pm

rattlesnake wrote:
November 20th, 2022, 9:31 pm
Please update SKOP, Oscillator.
Done.

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Post by Book » November 23rd, 2022, 2:32 pm

Need a Barrister article, or an expansion of the Bellman article to include Barrister.

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Re: Suggested LifeWiki edits

Post by hotcrystal0 » November 23rd, 2022, 7:25 pm

Suggested edit: Edit the P38 bouncer and bumper to the Bumpers And Bouncers gallery and the 44P38 page.

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x = 192, y = 53, rule = Conway's Life
33$42b4o$41b6o$40b2ob4o$41b2o3$41b2o$39bo6bo$38bo8bo$38bo8bo$38b9o3$42b
4o$41b6o$40b2ob4o$41b2o!

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x = 12, y = 12, rule = B3-ckq4cj5c8/S2-i34c5e
2b2o3b3o$3bo3bo2bo$o$2o5bo3bo$7b4o$8bo2$2ob2o$o3b2o$o3bo$bo2bo$3bo!

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Re: Suggested LifeWiki edits

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Re: Suggested LifeWiki edits

Post by Chris857 » November 27th, 2022, 2:32 pm

https://conwaylife.com/wiki/LifeWiki:Did_you_know/54
"...and there are still fourteen 17-bit p2s that have not been successfully synthesized?"

Assuming viewtopic.php?f=2&t=5863#p153955 was the list of those 14, I think it's down to 11 since xp2_j92g55hz11x3, xp2_318czw315b8o, and xp2_62k030288zx1148d have synths.

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Re: Suggested LifeWiki edits

Post by rattlesnake » November 28th, 2022, 6:40 pm

Please mention this p34 gun on page Period-34 glider gun:

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#C [[ THEME 6 GPS 5 ]]
x = 62, y = 31, rule = B3/S23
28b2o6bo$29bo6b3o$29bobo7bo$30b2o6bo$4b2o32bo2bo$5bo2b2o31bo$5bobobo3b
o12b2o13bo$6bo6b3o11bo$16bo10bobo11bo$2b2o11b2o11b2o4b2o3bobo$bo2bo28b
o2bo3b2o$bob2o5b3o20bobo25bo$2o8bo22b3o13b3o7b3o$3b2o6bo14b2o21bobo6b
o$3o2bo19bo2bo14b2o3bo2bo4bo2bo$o2b2obo2b2o4b3o6b2obo15bobo3b2o4bob2o
2bo$2bo2bo3b2o6bo7b2o16bo12bo2b3o$3bo11bobo39b2o$3o13bo5bo20bo6bo9b2o
$o20bobo19bo5bobo5b2obo$12b2o7bo21bo2bo10bo2bo$11bob2o6b3o8b2o12bo11b
2o$10bo2bo18bobo10bo$11b2o21bo11b3o6bo$34b2o12bo3bobobo$52b2o2bo$56b2o
$22b2o$22bo$23b3o$25bo!

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