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- rattlesnake
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Since guntrue_45 is no longer the smallest odd-period gun (this title belongs to guntrue_25), please update page p45 pi-heptomino hassler.
I have discovered SKOP for 115, 188, 492 and gun_ and guntrue_ for 200, 226, 339, 752, 1944, 6624.
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Done, thanks for pointing this out.rattlesnake wrote: ↑November 13th, 2022, 6:29 pmSince guntrue_45 is no longer the smallest odd-period gun (this title belongs to guntrue_25), please update page p45 pi-heptomino hassler.
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What is the general rule on pattern optimization on LifeWiki?
There is a smaller variant of the P15_pre-pulsar_spaceship, both in terms of bounding box (39x51) and cells (252):
The optimization of the p8 heavyweight sparker results in title change of the page, but 48P9 is mentioned on the page without changing the title.
There is a smaller variant of the P15_pre-pulsar_spaceship, both in terms of bounding box (39x51) and cells (252):
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x = 39, y = 51, rule = B3/S23
6bo25bo$4bo2bo23bo2bo$4bo2bo23bo2bo$2b2o4bo21bo4b2o$2b4o3bo19bo3b4o$4b
o4bo19bo4bo$4b2o27b2o$2bo4bo23bo4bo$2ob2o29b2ob2o$2bo2bo2bo21bo2bo2bo$
2bo5bo21bo5bo$6b2o23b2o$4bo29bo$6bo25bo2$4b2o27b2o$3b2o29b2o$2b2o31b2o
$4bo29bo$2b3o29b3o$5bo27bo$6b2o23b2o$6bo25bo$2b2o31b2o$2b2o4bo21bo4b2o
$bo6b2o19b2o6bo$2bob3o25b3obo2$7bo23bo$6bo25bo$3bobob2ob2o15b2ob2obobo
$2b2o6bo17bo6b2o$9bo19bo$2b3o4bo19bo4b3o$bo6b2o5b3o3b3o5b2o6bo$2bo6b2o
17b2o6bo$8bo4bo4bobo4bo4bo$8bo4bo4bobo4bo4bo$9b2o2bo4bobo4bo2b2o$9b2o
17b2o$8bo6b3o3b3o6bo$6bobo21bobo$4b5o21b5o$3bo3b2o21b2o3bo$2bo33bo$2bo
3bo25bo3bo$6bo25bo$5b3o23b3o$3b2o3bo21bo3b2o$b3o3bo23bo3b3o$b3o31b3o!
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As far as I can tell, there's not much of a general rule to be followed. Maybe someone else can provide a better answer.Bullet51 wrote: ↑November 16th, 2022, 2:39 amWhat is the general rule on pattern optimization on LifeWiki?
There is a smaller variant of the P15_pre-pulsar_spaceship, both in terms of bounding box (39x51) and cells (252):The optimization of the p8 heavyweight sparker results in title change of the page, but 48P9 is mentioned on the page without changing the title.Code: Select all
rle
From a "purely logical" viewpoint, it might actually be more reasonable (and even more maintainable) to avoid "optimizing" patterns on LifeWiki, and prefer addition of new patterns instead of replacing/removing old versions of patterns (for example, create a new RLE instead of replacing/modifying an already existing RLE; create a new page for a new oscillator/spaceship instead of changing an existing page to describe a different thing).
Obviously things are not that simple, and having many pages has its own disadvantages. But that might still be better (and possibly easier to maintain) than (for example) having a single very long list page, or better than discarding old patterns.
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This pattern needs to be uploaded to LifeWiki to correct the # of cells of the smallest 3c/15 spaceship (252 instead of 494).Bullet51 wrote: ↑November 16th, 2022, 2:39 amCode: Select all
#C Smaller (252 cells) p15 pre-pulsar spaceship. #C The spaceship supporting the pre-pulsar reaction is discovered by Tim Coe: #C https://conwaylife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2031&p=28770#p28770 x = 39, y = 51, rule = B3/S23 6bo25bo$4bo2bo23bo2bo$4bo2bo23bo2bo$2b2o4bo21bo4b2o$2b4o3bo19bo3b4o$4b o4bo19bo4bo$4b2o27b2o$2bo4bo23bo4bo$2ob2o29b2ob2o$2bo2bo2bo21bo2bo2bo$ 2bo5bo21bo5bo$6b2o23b2o$4bo29bo$6bo25bo2$4b2o27b2o$3b2o29b2o$2b2o31b2o $4bo29bo$2b3o29b3o$5bo27bo$6b2o23b2o$6bo25bo$2b2o31b2o$2b2o4bo21bo4b2o $bo6b2o19b2o6bo$2bob3o25b3obo2$7bo23bo$6bo25bo$3bobob2ob2o15b2ob2obobo $2b2o6bo17bo6b2o$9bo19bo$2b3o4bo19bo4b3o$bo6b2o5b3o3b3o5b2o6bo$2bo6b2o 17b2o6bo$8bo4bo4bobo4bo4bo$8bo4bo4bobo4bo4bo$9b2o2bo4bobo4bo2b2o$9b2o 17b2o$8bo6b3o3b3o6bo$6bobo21bobo$4b5o21b5o$3bo3b2o21b2o3bo$2bo33bo$2bo 3bo25bo3bo$6bo25bo$5b3o23b3o$3b2o3bo21bo3b2o$b3o3bo23bo3b3o$b3o31b3o!
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https://conwaylife.com/patterns/period32glidergun.rle has a random cell at the top left.
I have discovered SKOP for 115, 188, 492 and gun_ and guntrue_ for 200, 226, 339, 752, 1944, 6624.
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Good catch; fixedrattlesnake wrote: ↑November 17th, 2022, 8:31 pmhttps://conwaylife.com/patterns/period32glidergun.rle has a random cell at the top left.
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rattlesnake wrote: ↑November 17th, 2022, 8:31 pmhttps://conwaylife.com/patterns/period32glidergun.rle has a random cell at the top left.
I think it was not a random cell, but rather an intentionally added extra cell to make the bounding box explicit. See post136951
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https://conwaylife.com/patterns/eater2variant2.rle looks like:
It should be
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#C [[ GRID VIEWONLY ]]
x = 5, y = 10, rule = B3/S23
2o$bo$bo$2ob2o$3b2o2$2ob2o$bobo$bobo$2bo!
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#C [[ GRID VIEWONLY ]]
x = 5, y = 9, rule = B3/S23
2o$bo$bob2o$2ob2o2$2ob2o$bobo$bobo$2bo!
I have discovered SKOP for 115, 188, 492 and gun_ and guntrue_ for 200, 226, 339, 752, 1944, 6624.
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SKOP 115 (93 cells):
SKOP 188 (68 cells):
Please update SKOP, Oscillator.
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x = 25, y = 28, rule = B3/S23
4bo$4b3o4b2o$7bo3b2o$6b2o2$18b2o$2b2o14bo$2bo13bobo$4bo11b2o$3b2o6bo$
2bo6b3o$bob2o4bobo$o2bobo5bo$2o2bo2$15b2ob2o$8b2o5b2obobo$9bo8bobo$6b
3o6b2o3b2ob2o$6bo7bo2b2o5bo$14b2o3b2o$16b2obo$16bo2b4o$17bobo3bo$16b2o
bob2o$18bobo$18bobo$19bo!
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x = 37, y = 31, rule = B3/S23
13b2o$13b2o5$29b2o$29b2o$35b2o$3b2o15bo14bo$3b2o15bo12bobo$21bo11b2o$
14bo7bo$13bobo6b2o$13b2o6bobo$14bo7bo$2b2o11bo$bobo12bo15b2o$bo14bo15b
2o$2o$6b2o$6b2o4$7bobo$6bo15b2o$7bo2bo11b2o$7bobobo$8bo2bo$9b2o!
I have discovered SKOP for 115, 188, 492 and gun_ and guntrue_ for 200, 226, 339, 752, 1944, 6624.
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Need a Barrister article, or an expansion of the Bellman article to include Barrister.
Phil Bookman
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Suggested edit: Edit the P38 bouncer and bumper to the Bumpers And Bouncers gallery and the 44P38 page.
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x = 192, y = 53, rule = B3/S23
33$42b4o$41b6o$40b2ob4o$41b2o3$41b2o$39bo6bo$38bo8bo$38bo8bo$38b9o3$42b
4o$41b6o$40b2ob4o$41b2o!
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Need separate pages about people:
Matthew Cook, Edward Fredkin, Norman Margolus, John von Neumann, Tommaso Toffoli, Stanislaw Ulam,
Matthew Cook, Edward Fredkin, Norman Margolus, John von Neumann, Tommaso Toffoli, Stanislaw Ulam,
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https://conwaylife.com/wiki/LifeWiki:Did_you_know/54
"...and there are still fourteen 17-bit p2s that have not been successfully synthesized?"
Assuming viewtopic.php?f=2&t=5863#p153955 was the list of those 14, I think it's down to 11 since xp2_j92g55hz11x3, xp2_318czw315b8o, and xp2_62k030288zx1148d have synths.
"...and there are still fourteen 17-bit p2s that have not been successfully synthesized?"
Assuming viewtopic.php?f=2&t=5863#p153955 was the list of those 14, I think it's down to 11 since xp2_j92g55hz11x3, xp2_318czw315b8o, and xp2_62k030288zx1148d have synths.
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Please mention this p34 gun on page Period-34 glider gun:
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#C [[ THEME 6 GPS 5 ]]
x = 62, y = 31, rule = B3/S23
28b2o6bo$29bo6b3o$29bobo7bo$30b2o6bo$4b2o32bo2bo$5bo2b2o31bo$5bobobo3b
o12b2o13bo$6bo6b3o11bo$16bo10bobo11bo$2b2o11b2o11b2o4b2o3bobo$bo2bo28b
o2bo3b2o$bob2o5b3o20bobo25bo$2o8bo22b3o13b3o7b3o$3b2o6bo14b2o21bobo6b
o$3o2bo19bo2bo14b2o3bo2bo4bo2bo$o2b2obo2b2o4b3o6b2obo15bobo3b2o4bob2o
2bo$2bo2bo3b2o6bo7b2o16bo12bo2b3o$3bo11bobo39b2o$3o13bo5bo20bo6bo9b2o
$o20bobo19bo5bobo5b2obo$12b2o7bo21bo2bo10bo2bo$11bob2o6b3o8b2o12bo11b
2o$10bo2bo18bobo10bo$11b2o21bo11b3o6bo$34b2o12bo3bobobo$52b2o2bo$56b2o
$22b2o$22bo$23b3o$25bo!
I have discovered SKOP for 115, 188, 492 and gun_ and guntrue_ for 200, 226, 339, 752, 1944, 6624.
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Sorry for double posting, but here is a reduced p4 bouncer:
232 cells (old)
145 cells (new)JP21 wrote: ↑December 7th, 2022, 6:26 amThis reduced p4 bouncer could have been useful in the past.Code: Select all
x = 29, y = 21, rule = B3/S23 13bo$14bo$2b2o8b3o5b2o$bobo16bobo$bobob2o2b2o12bo$2bobobo2b2o2b2o3bo2b 2obo2b2o$4bo8bobobo4bobo3bo$3bo2bo7bo3bobobo2b3o$3bo5bo9bo2bo$3bo7bo7b 2obo2bo$3bo4b2o12bob2o$4bobo2b3ob5o2bobo2b2o$2bobobo4b3o3bo3bo3bob2o$b ob2obobobo3b3o4bobo$bo5b3obobo11b2o$2o8bob2ob2o5b3o$7b2o2bo4bo3bo3bo$ 8bobo2b3o4bo2b2obo$8bo2b2o8bobobobo$9b2o2bo9bo2bo$12b2o8b2o!
232 cells (old)
I have discovered SKOP for 115, 188, 492 and gun_ and guntrue_ for 200, 226, 339, 752, 1944, 6624.
Re: Suggested LifeWiki edits
Please delete Rule:TripleLifeImmortal3 and Rule:Immortaloverlap. Both are blank rules.
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Done.rowett wrote: ↑December 8th, 2022, 9:26 amPlease delete Rule:TripleLifeImmortal3 and Rule:Immortaloverlap. Both are blank rules.
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Would it be possible for the page Short table to be recovered alongside its edit history? The number of wiki pages detailing common sparks has increased substantially since 2014, and this one is quite common.
Help wanted: How can we accurately notate any 1D replicator?
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Expand the V spark article to mention the difference between instant V and delayed V, and mention short table there. Short table doesn't need its own page.muzik wrote: ↑December 9th, 2022, 11:43 amWould it be possible for the page Short table to be recovered alongside its edit history? The number of wiki pages detailing common sparks has increased substantially since 2014, and this one is quite common.
User:HotdogPi/My discoveries
Periods discovered: 5-16,⑱,⑳G,㉑G,㉒㉔㉕,㉗-㉛,㉜SG,㉞㉟㊱㊳㊵㊷㊹㊺㊽㊿,54G,55G,56,57G,60,62-66,68,70,73,74S,75,76S,80,84,88,90,96
100,02S,06,08,10,12,14G,16,17G,20,26G,28,38,47,48,54,56,72,74,80,92,96S
217,486,576
S: SKOP
G: gun
Periods discovered: 5-16,⑱,⑳G,㉑G,㉒㉔㉕,㉗-㉛,㉜SG,㉞㉟㊱㊳㊵㊷㊹㊺㊽㊿,54G,55G,56,57G,60,62-66,68,70,73,74S,75,76S,80,84,88,90,96
100,02S,06,08,10,12,14G,16,17G,20,26G,28,38,47,48,54,56,72,74,80,92,96S
217,486,576
S: SKOP
G: gun
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I'd still prefer it if the page's history were recovered prior to it being made a redirect.hotdogPi wrote: ↑December 9th, 2022, 11:46 amExpand the V spark article to mention the difference between instant V and delayed V, and mention short table there. Short table doesn't need its own page.muzik wrote: ↑December 9th, 2022, 11:43 amWould it be possible for the page Short table to be recovered alongside its edit history? The number of wiki pages detailing common sparks has increased substantially since 2014, and this one is quite common.
Help wanted: How can we accurately notate any 1D replicator?
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Since MediaWiki shenanigans have completely corrupted the page's history I've decided to boldly recreate short table manually, and as its own page, since there's information on the pattern itself that simply wouldn't make sense to include on the V spark page (such as the wick, where the V spark doesn't show up at all, as well as the pattern's name origin and why it doesn't work as an induction coil).
I've created an article for V's other pentomino grandparent, named Crotchet by me, as well. I know that this does kind of go in violation of the whole "using your own terminology on the wiki is a no-no" thing, but others in the spaceship syntheses thread seemed fine with the name (or at least, what the name used to refer to). If it doesn't end up sticking, moving is always an option. Due to the other cases where crotchets arise in B3/S23, an independent page was warranted here as well because "one of the many predecessors of this spark can be used as a tagalong", etc. just wouldn't make sense to include on the V spark page.
I've created an article for V's other pentomino grandparent, named Crotchet by me, as well. I know that this does kind of go in violation of the whole "using your own terminology on the wiki is a no-no" thing, but others in the spaceship syntheses thread seemed fine with the name (or at least, what the name used to refer to). If it doesn't end up sticking, moving is always an option. Due to the other cases where crotchets arise in B3/S23, an independent page was warranted here as well because "one of the many predecessors of this spark can be used as a tagalong", etc. just wouldn't make sense to include on the V spark page.
Help wanted: How can we accurately notate any 1D replicator?
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Found this while digging through old posts. Why haven't these been added to the wiki?Scorbie wrote: ↑July 8th, 2017, 8:04 amHere are new shorter symmetric ant wick stabilizers:The "emitter" on the right is smaller than the original in population, but the "reciever" on the left isn't.Code: Select all
x = 64, y = 58, rule = B3/S23 40b2o$40bobo$11b2o7b2o20bo2b2o$5bob2obo2bob2o4bo19b2obobo$5b2obob2obob 2o2bo24bo$3b2o3bobo2bo5b2o4b2o3b2o3b2o3bo3b2o8b2o5b2o$2bo2b2obobob2ob 2o6b2o3b2o3b2o3b2ob4o2bobob2ob2o6bo$bobobo5bobob2ob2obob2o3b2o3b2o3b2o 5bobob2obobo2bob3o$bo4bobobo2b2obob2o5b2o3b2o3b2o6bob2o4bo4bo2bo$2ob2o bobob2obo4b3o20b2o3bob2obob2ob2o2b2o$bobo2bob2o7bo22bo3b2o3bobo2bo6bo$ bobo2bo4b2o3bobo20bob3o2b3o3bobo6bobo$2bo4b3obo5bo21bo3bo2bo6bo8b2o$9b obo26b2o$10bo5$45b2o$39b2o3bo2bo$40bo4b2o$40bob3o$11b2o7b2o19bo3b4o$5b ob2obo2bob2o4bo21b2o4bo$5b2obob2obob2o2bo22b2o2b3o$3b2o3bobo2bo5b2o4b 2o3b2o3b2o3b3o2b2o$2bo2b2obobob2ob2o6b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o2bo$bobobo5bobob2o b2obob2o3b2o3b2o3b2o2bo$bo4bobobo2b2obob2o5b2o3b2o3b2o3b3o2b2o$2ob2obo bob2obo4b3o21b2o2b3o$bobo2bob2o7bo25b2o4bo$bobo2bo4b2o3bobo22bo3b4o$2b o4b3obo5bo22bob3o$9bobo28bo4b2o$10bo28b2o3bo2bo$45b2o4$16bo28b2o$6b2o 2bob2obobo21b2o3bo2bo$6b2o2b2obobobo22bo4b2o$15bob2o21bob3o$6b9o4bo21b o3b4o$5bo2bo5b2o3bo23b2o4bo$5b2o3b6o2bo23b2o2b3o$10bo3bo3b4o3b2o3b2o3b 2o3b3o2b2o$11bo3bo3bo3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o2bo$11bo3bo3bo3b2o3b2o3b2o3b2o2bo $10bo3bo3b4o3b2o3b2o3b2o3b3o2b2o$5b2o3b6o2bo23b2o2b3o$5bo2bo5b2o3bo23b 2o4bo$6b9o4bo21bo3b4o$15bob2o21bob3o$6b2o2b2obobobo22bo4b2o$6b2o2bob2o bobo21b2o3bo2bo$16bo28b2o!
The symmetric form has a smaller bounding box, although that depends on the length of the wick.
\sum_{n=1}^\infty H_n/n^2 = \zeta(3)
How much of current CA technology can I redevelop "on a desert island"?
How much of current CA technology can I redevelop "on a desert island"?