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Featured article blurb for glider says discovery was 1970, article says 1969
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I'd like to suggest that a "crotchet ship" entry be added to the wiki since I have used it a lot recently. I have provided some starting information for such an entry, if anyone thinks it is a good idea and wants to polish it up. Otherwise don't worry about it.
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A crotchet ship is a c/3 ship which contains one or more "crotchet" components on one end.
The other end must be stabilized with another component, typically an edge-repair spaceship.
Here is a typical one containing four extra crotchets attached to a crotchet which is integral to the edge-repair spaceship.
x = 40, y = 16
34bo$32b3ob3o$31boo6bo$26bo3bobbo3boo$25b4o$20bo3bo3bo$19b4o4bobbo$14b
o3bo3bo6bo$13b4o4bobbo$8bo3bo3bo6bo$7b4o4bobbo$bbo3bo3bo6bo$b4o4bobbo$
o3bo6bo$bobobbo$5bo!
Goldtiger997 found a reaction which can add a new crotchet to the end of an existing crotchet ship.
This allows the whole series of crotchet ships to be constructable since the initial edge-repair spaceship can also be constructed.
x = 59, y = 68
41bo$40bo$40b3o4$6bobo$7boo31bo$7bo32bobo$40boo17$18bo$16bobo$17boo7$
30bo$29boo$29bobo5$14bobo$15boo8b3o$15bo9bo$26bo$7b3o$9bo$bo6bo$boo$ob
o50bo$27boo22b3ob3o$27bobo20boo6bo$27bo17bo3bobbo3boo$44b4o$39bo3bo3bo
$38b4o4bobbo$33bo3bo3bo6bo$32b4o4bobbo$27bo3bo3bo6bo$26b4o4bobbo$25bo
3bo6bo$26bobobbo$30bo$$6boo$5bobo$7bo!
There are various ways to remove the end crotchet from a crotchet ship to make the next smaller one.
For example, a boat can be used for this purpose without being destroyed.
x = 22, y = 25
boo$bobo$bbo14$14bo$13b4o$8bo3bo3booboo$7b4o5bobboo$bbo3bo3bo7bobbo$b
4o4bobbo$o3bo6bo$bobobbo$5bo!
Goldtiger997 built a edge-repair spaceship to glider converter. By adding boats to this reaction as shown above, a converter can be made for any sized crotchet ship.
x = 20, y = 52, rule = B3/S23
15b2o$9b2o5bo$9bobob3o$3bo7bobo$3b3o5b2o$6bo$5b2o2$b2o$bobo14b2o$2bo
15b2o4$8bo$7b4o$2bo3bo3b2ob2o$b4o5bo2b2o$o3bo7bo2bo$bobo2bo$5bo26$7b3o
$6bo3b2obo$b3o2b3o3b3o$obob3o4bo3bo$bo4bo7bo$4b2o!
The end crotchet can react with various still lifes to release a glider while removing the crotchet.
This glider can then be used to rebuild the still life so that the reaction can be repeated,
and can also release a LWSS traveling upwards to eventually produce a glider convoy which can
add the crotchet back onto the advanding ship. This enables a psuedo-Heisenburp reaction to be built.
The first one of these was built on 1 February 2023.
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BCNU,
-dbell
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A crotchet ship is a c/3 ship which contains one or more "crotchet" components on one end.
The other end must be stabilized with another component, typically an edge-repair spaceship.
Here is a typical one containing four extra crotchets attached to a crotchet which is integral to the edge-repair spaceship.
x = 40, y = 16
34bo$32b3ob3o$31boo6bo$26bo3bobbo3boo$25b4o$20bo3bo3bo$19b4o4bobbo$14b
o3bo3bo6bo$13b4o4bobbo$8bo3bo3bo6bo$7b4o4bobbo$bbo3bo3bo6bo$b4o4bobbo$
o3bo6bo$bobobbo$5bo!
Goldtiger997 found a reaction which can add a new crotchet to the end of an existing crotchet ship.
This allows the whole series of crotchet ships to be constructable since the initial edge-repair spaceship can also be constructed.
x = 59, y = 68
41bo$40bo$40b3o4$6bobo$7boo31bo$7bo32bobo$40boo17$18bo$16bobo$17boo7$
30bo$29boo$29bobo5$14bobo$15boo8b3o$15bo9bo$26bo$7b3o$9bo$bo6bo$boo$ob
o50bo$27boo22b3ob3o$27bobo20boo6bo$27bo17bo3bobbo3boo$44b4o$39bo3bo3bo
$38b4o4bobbo$33bo3bo3bo6bo$32b4o4bobbo$27bo3bo3bo6bo$26b4o4bobbo$25bo
3bo6bo$26bobobbo$30bo$$6boo$5bobo$7bo!
There are various ways to remove the end crotchet from a crotchet ship to make the next smaller one.
For example, a boat can be used for this purpose without being destroyed.
x = 22, y = 25
boo$bobo$bbo14$14bo$13b4o$8bo3bo3booboo$7b4o5bobboo$bbo3bo3bo7bobbo$b
4o4bobbo$o3bo6bo$bobobbo$5bo!
Goldtiger997 built a edge-repair spaceship to glider converter. By adding boats to this reaction as shown above, a converter can be made for any sized crotchet ship.
x = 20, y = 52, rule = B3/S23
15b2o$9b2o5bo$9bobob3o$3bo7bobo$3b3o5b2o$6bo$5b2o2$b2o$bobo14b2o$2bo
15b2o4$8bo$7b4o$2bo3bo3b2ob2o$b4o5bo2b2o$o3bo7bo2bo$bobo2bo$5bo26$7b3o
$6bo3b2obo$b3o2b3o3b3o$obob3o4bo3bo$bo4bo7bo$4b2o!
The end crotchet can react with various still lifes to release a glider while removing the crotchet.
This glider can then be used to rebuild the still life so that the reaction can be repeated,
and can also release a LWSS traveling upwards to eventually produce a glider convoy which can
add the crotchet back onto the advanding ship. This enables a psuedo-Heisenburp reaction to be built.
The first one of these was built on 1 February 2023.
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BCNU,
-dbell
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Wiki article has been started.dbell wrote: ↑February 1st, 2023, 9:57 amI'd like to suggest that a "crotchet ship" entry be added to the wiki since I have used it a lot recently. I have provided some starting information for such an entry, if anyone thinks it is a good idea and wants to polish it up. Otherwise don't worry about it.
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BCNU,
-dbell
Phil Bookman
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https://conwaylife.com/wiki/LifeWiki:Did_you_know/24 needs to be changed to 107 cells.
I have discovered SKOP for 115, 188, 492 and gun_ and guntrue_ for 200, 226, 339, 752, 1944, 6624.
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Task completed.rattlesnake wrote: ↑February 2nd, 2023, 2:41 amhttps://conwaylife.com/wiki/LifeWiki:Did_you_know/24 needs to be changed to 107 cells.
Help wanted: How can we accurately notate any 1D replicator?
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Can someone do a systematic update to RLE:Trafficlighthasslers? As noted on the traffic light page it was from October 26, 2021. I reverted a recent attempt on the grounds of a single addition being incomplete with date and inconsistent with page.
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Harvest Moon
2-engine p45 gliderless HWSS gun
Small p2070 glider gun
Forgive me if I withhold my enthusiasm.
Harvest Moon
2-engine p45 gliderless HWSS gun
Small p2070 glider gun
Forgive me if I withhold my enthusiasm.
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Should we add (23,5)c/79 Herschel climber to Boat-crawling crawlers:
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#C [[ THEME 6 Z 8 X -20 Y 35 TRACK 5/79 -23/79 LOOP 158 AUTOSTART ]]
x = 68, y = 119, rule = B3/S23
65bobo$65b2o$66bo20$24b2o$24bobo$25bo44$14b2o$14bobo$15bo15$17bo$15b2o
$16b2o13$2b3o$3bo$3b3o8$bobo$bobo2$4bo4$obo$bo!
I have discovered SKOP for 115, 188, 492 and gun_ and guntrue_ for 200, 226, 339, 752, 1944, 6624.
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A climber and a crawler walk into a bar...rattlesnake wrote: ↑February 14th, 2023, 6:27 pmShould we add (23,5)c/79 Herschel climber to Boat-crawling crawlers:
Phil Bookman
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could someone rewrite the Conduit page? it seems more focused on Herschel conduits than the actual Herschel conduit page itself.
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adopted father of the U-turner
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x = 11, y = 15, rule = B3/S23
9bo$8bobo$8bobo$9bo8$b3o$b3o$obo$2o!
255P132
B3/S234z (Zlife)
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@Book What is the meaning of this post?Book wrote: ↑February 14th, 2023, 6:56 pmA climber and a crawler walk into a bar...rattlesnake wrote: ↑February 14th, 2023, 6:27 pmShould we add (23,5)c/79 Herschel climber to Boat-crawling crawlers:
I have discovered SKOP for 115, 188, 492 and gun_ and guntrue_ for 200, 226, 339, 752, 1944, 6624.
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I was hoping someone would be inspired to complete the gag...
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Please do not post irrelevant comments in this thread.
I have discovered SKOP for 115, 188, 492 and gun_ and guntrue_ for 200, 226, 339, 752, 1944, 6624.
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Bill Gosper points out that there's no listing for "Period-30 glider gun" in the Category:Guns list.
This is because there's no infobox on the Period-30 glider gun article, right? Is there a good way to fix this without adding an arbitrary infobox for one of the alternate p30 guns?
This is because there's no infobox on the Period-30 glider gun article, right? Is there a good way to fix this without adding an arbitrary infobox for one of the alternate p30 guns?
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I just added several categories manually, following the current version of period-60 glider gun.dvgrn wrote: ↑February 28th, 2023, 3:32 pmBill Gosper points out that there's no listing for "Period-30 glider gun" in the Category:Guns list.
This is because there's no infobox on the Period-30 glider gun article, right? Is there a good way to fix this without adding an arbitrary infobox for one of the alternate p30 guns?
It might be a good idea to have an alternative way of automatically putting pages into categories, without necessarily having an infobox (or without necessarily having a visible infobox).
Would it be a good idea to create an alternative invisible template for adding automatic categories?
Would it be a good idea to add an optional parameter that would hide the infobox, but still add automatic categories?
(I could (probably) just do something myself, but that has the usual disadvantages of making changes that affect multiple pages without first making sure there's a consensus for that.)
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Unlikely events happen.
My silence does not imply agreement, nor indifference. If I disagreed with something in the past, then please do not construe my silence as something that could change that.
Unlikely events happen.
My silence does not imply agreement, nor indifference. If I disagreed with something in the past, then please do not construe my silence as something that could change that.
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I'm not sure which solution would be the most robust and generally applicable, but I agree that this needs to be solved, as came up in the tiki bar discussion of the pitfalls of showing huge patterns in an infobox.confocaloid wrote: ↑February 28th, 2023, 4:21 pmIt might be a good idea to have an alternative way of automatically putting pages into categories, without necessarily having an infobox (or without necessarily having a visible infobox).
Would it be a good idea to create an alternative invisible template for adding automatic categories?
Would it be a good idea to add an optional parameter that would hide the infobox, but still add automatic categories?
(I could (probably) just do something myself, but that has the usual disadvantages of making changes that affect multiple pages without first making sure there's a consensus for that.)
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Is it technically possible to split the edit history of one page and move some revisions to the edit history of another revision? See Talk:Hybrid_rule for the context.
熠熠种花 - Glimmering Garden
Harvest Moon
2-engine p45 gliderless HWSS gun
Small p2070 glider gun
Forgive me if I withhold my enthusiasm.
Harvest Moon
2-engine p45 gliderless HWSS gun
Small p2070 glider gun
Forgive me if I withhold my enthusiasm.
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For more context, see also https://conwaylife.com/w/index.php?oldi ... ybrid_rule .GUYTU6J wrote: ↑March 7th, 2023, 12:02 pmIs it technically possible to split the edit history of one page and move some revisions to the edit history of another revision? See Talk:Hybrid_rule for the context.
Apparently this is a question to the mod team, but I'll anyway repeat my opinion from https://conwaylife.com/w/index.php?titl ... did=126293
If past experience is any guide, manipulations with edit history are usually a bad solution, because that requires a moderator to intervene. Something that does not require a non-moderator user to act like a moderator, neither a moderator to intervene, is clearly better than something that requires one of those.
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Could there be a page (or a subpage) that lists all of the pentadecathlon hasslers, including maybe the p47 pre-pulsar hassler, but only because it uses the signature phi sparks? If it were a subpage, it would just be an extension of the subpage already on the pentadecathlon page.
Helloshe, I like pentadecathlons and small-period motifs. I also don’t like how some people say that a hassler can’t be mutually supporting; a better metric would be that if there are any casing stator cells in the object being hassled.
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Done: link.
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The "Line Puffer" wiki article shows a p42 rake. Its description should be a "forward rake" instead of a "backrake".
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Can you create OCA:HighLife/p24 shuttle page?
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#C cis variant
x = 22, y = 7, rule = B36/S23
8b2o$7bob2o$8b2o$2b2o14b2o$bobo14bobo$bo18bo$2o18b2o!
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#C trans variant
x = 22, y = 11, rule = B36/S23
20b2o$20bo$18bobo$18b2o$8b2o$7bob2o$8b2o$2b2o$bobo$bo$2o!
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#C p24 reflector
x = 23, y = 23, rule = B36/S23
2bo$obo$b2o10bo$4b2o6bob2o$6bo4bo3bo$12bob2o$2bo10bo5b2o$bo17bobo$bo3b
o15bo$21b2o$2b3o$2bobo$2bobo$2b3o6$5b2o$5bo$6b3o$8bo!
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#C another p24 reflector
x = 35, y = 13, rule = B36/S23
15bo$13bobo$14b2o9bo$17bo3bo3bo$16bo2bo3b2obo$9bo11bo3bo$9bo3bo11bo5b
2o$8bob2o3bo2bo12bobo$9bo3bo3bo15bo$2b2o5bo23b2o$bobo$bo$2o!
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#C p24 gun
x = 37, y = 24, rule = B36/S23
21bo$19b3o$18bo$18b2o3$16bo$15bobo$14b2ob2o$14b2ob2o$15b3o$16bo4$35b2o
$2o33bo$bo31bobo$bobo29b2o$2b2o5bo17b2o$7b2obo15b2obo$7bo3bo4bobo8b2o$
7b2obo6b2o$9bo7bo!
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Edit page P49 R-pentomino hassler to say it is no longer SKOP 49 (superseded by p49 pi-heptomino hassler)
I have discovered SKOP for 115, 188, 492 and gun_ and guntrue_ for 200, 226, 339, 752, 1944, 6624.