language letters connect with continent shape by conway rules

[wln2024]

How can I show the cells pattern?

[dvgrn]

How can I show the cells pattern?

We explain this kind of thing to newcomers every now and then. See confocaloid's response to this post, for example.

Try replying to this email (EDIT: message, I meant) to see a sample of how to use "pattern" tags (surrounding the word with square brackets) to get a pattern that can be displayed and run in LifeViewer by clicking the "Show in viewer" link:

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.O.
..O
OOO

confocaloid's response talks about RLE encoding, which you can read about here on the LifeWiki.

I'll probably move this over to the "thread for basic questions" in a few days. We'd rather not have a new thread appear for every individual question along these lines.

[confocaloid]

I always thought an email and a forum post are two completely different things.

Would be interesting to see the actual pattern hidden behind the description "language letters connect with continent shape by conway rules".

[wln2024]

Hi，my friend,
This is a exciting discovery.
There are several examples for public to indicate relation between letters and continent shape by conway rules.
Before I get how to use this website,I describe the new discovery.
Letter R relates to Europe shape,and Chinese letter 'ren',relates to China shape,and so on, all these run out under Conway game in definite area.

[Citation needed]

You can send a private message to one of the other Chinese users, or to me.

[wln2024]

fine， ，I am a new comer here.
Now, i must let you know, whatever Chinese or English letters is the same thing under Conway rules.
By the way, how to send private message?

[confocaloid]

While it's completely fine to be a newcomer, the forum rules do say: viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2092

Please spend some time doing some research to familiarize yourself with what is and isn't already known about the Game of Life before posting your discoveries.

And since the forum rules say that about knowledge of CGoL/cellular automata, basically the same thing will likely be true for the basic knowledge about how to use the forums, how the internet works, etc. This is something people are expected to figure out (mostly) themselves.

[dvgrn]

By the way, how to send private message?

Don't worry about private messages for the moment.

You're welcome to share here whatever you'd like to share related to cellular automata -- but please avoid any links to advertising for classes or anything else you might want to sell. That applies both to public posts and to private messages.

EDIT 11/6/2024 -- no need for a separate post, I think:

PMs can also be reported (just like forum posts), and reporting a PM makes it visible to the mod team.

Exactly. Nobody on the admin/mod team is interested in reviewing everyone's private messages, even if we could -- but if someone starts sending unwanted advertising messages around and those messages get reported, that's not going to work out well. Advertising spam gets deleted quickly around here, and the spammers get banned.

Long story short, don't use the conwaylife.com forums for advertising purposes.

[Citation needed]

That applies both to public posts and to private messages.

I'm sorry to hear that. Does that mean that you can delete the messages that I receive, without me reporting?

[b-engine]

I'm sorry to hear that. Does that mean that you can delete the messages that I receive, without me reporting?

Maybe not. The point of private message is not to let anyone else know whatever you sent and read; not even moderators or administrators can.

[confocaloid]

I'm sorry to hear that. Does that mean that you can delete the messages that I receive, without me reporting?

Maybe not. The point of private message is not to let anyone else know whatever you sent and read; not even moderators or administrators can.

I think that depends on the board.

PMs can also be reported (just like forum posts), and reporting a PM makes it visible to the mod team.

[wln2024]

well，let's discuss just here.
But there is a problem that we need a finite area to run Conway game, and just under that circumstance can display continent shape from special letter matrix of different languages.
And if i can upload pictures, I think all of you would be shocked at the patterns.
And I try to describe one example:
111111
111111
110011
110011
111111
111111
1111
11011
110011
1100011
This is R shape,0 means empty, runs out to be Europe contient shape.

[b-engine]

well，let's discuss just here.
But there is a problem that we need a finite area to run Conway game, and just under that circumstance can display continent shape from special letter matrix of different languages.
And if i can upload pictures, I think all of you would be shocked at the patterns.
And I try to describe one example:
111111
111111
110011
110011
111111
111111
1111
11011
110011
1100011
This is R shape,0 means empty, runs out to be Europe contient shape.

This is the exact pattern that you posted:

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x = 7, y = 10, rule = B3/S23
6o$6o$2o2b2o$2o2b2o$6o$6o$4o$2ob2o$2o2b2o$2o3b2o!

This is a methuselah, with lifespan of 622 generations. Usually methuselahs aren't interesting, unless it's common or necessary in a notable (see LW:NB) pattern.

To open and run the pattern above, click or tap SHOW IN VIEWER, which opens LifeViewer. Then you can click the play button (indicated by the triangle at bottom-right) to run the pattern. LifeViewer can run a pattern in an 8192*8192 finite grid (which is basically infinite in most cases), but if you need more space you can consider Golly.

All the hyperlinks are enclosed in [wi‎ki][/wi‎ki] tags; clicking on them leads to LifeWiki, which is a very helpful resource of knowledge of Conway's Life.

[wln2024]

well，I give another example,the last example, Knowledge protection is needed.
the example is a Chinese character“Ren”,this must be under finite area to run comway rules.
11
11
11
11
11
11
1111
11111
1100011
110000011
110000000111
This initial pattern will run out China continent shape.
If any one is interested to join my group to find all continent shape letters,give me your reply.

[b-engine]

well，I give another example,the last example, Knowledge protection is needed.
the example is a Chinese character“Ren”,this must be under finite area to run comway rules.
11
11
11
11
11
11
1111
11111
1100011
110000011
110000000111
This initial pattern will run out China continent shape.
If any one is interested to join my group to find all continent shape letters,give me your reply.

Written in Chinese is 人. This is the exact RLE of the pattern:

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x = 12, y = 11, rule = B3/S23
4b2o$4b2o$4b2o$4b2o$4b2o$4b2o$3b4o$3b5o$2b2o3b2o$b2o5b2o$2o7b3o!

With only lifespan of 1402 generations, we didn't consider this as interesting.

Conway's Life is chaotic, meaning that even adding or removing a single cell from a methuselah will result in a completely different outcome. However, there are still some case that two different patterns evolve into same ash. Writing something in different syntax or even fonts results in different ash.

Read the forum rules.

This is an academic forum, not a chat or microblogging platform. Please spend some time doing some research to familiarize yourself with what is and isn't already known about the Game of Life before posting your discoveries.
Some places where you can look up what is known about Life include:

Jason Summers' Life page
Mark Niemiec's pattern searcher.
Our own LifeWiki.


Some specific examples of discoveries that won't be of interest to this community include:

A new still life.
A methuselah that lasts fewer than 20,000 generations or is larger than a 20-by-20 box.
An alternate stabilization for a reaction (unless it is smaller than the smallest currently known).


If you decide to share your discovery with the forums, please do not post an image of the pattern. Instead, post the RLE code of the pattern within "pattern" tags. The easiest way to obtain the RLE code of a pattern is to select the pattern in Golly (or in LifeViewer) and then copy it to your clipboard.

This implies that your project won't be our interest. Sorry for that.

[dvgrn]

well，I give another example,the last example, Knowledge protection is needed.
...
If any one is interested to join my group to find all continent shape letters,give me your reply.

I'm sorry, @wln2024, but you're really not putting in the effort that you would need to put in, for your posts to be welcome on these forums.

Several people have explained how to post patterns in a format (RLE) that won't get damaged by HTML display rules in a browser, and that can be easily viewed in LifeViewer. But the pattern you quoted in this latest post is in the same unusable format as before -- you're effectively making other people do your work for you.

More important, your claim that "knowledge protection is needed" and your insistence on people joining a separate group to be able to access your information ... really do not fit in at all with the rules of the community here.

By very long tradition and consensus, CA patterns are considered to be "mathematical facts", in the public domain and freely available to anyone as soon as they're shared. We try very hard to give credit where credit is due, attributing new discoveries to the correct people -- but we don't keep information locked up, private, or available only behind paywalls. That kind of thing is entirely contrary to the purpose of the conwaylife.com forums, which is to share information about cellular automata.

[wln2024]

fine，what i do, is commercializing theory discovery work, which is really and always a hard work,especially when there is no fund to support.
Nowadays,university all over the world is more and more like a joke,high payment,less to learn,low efficiency to cooperation.
Conway game has been only about 50 years,
Where comes tradition.
I come here just to announce that what is useful about comway rules,who are interested in this small area of mathematics,come to China to visit me,or follow my rules out of this website.
Some aspects of the website is not convenient, It is not proper to run the program under infinite area, you can't see the results.
So even if i find the way to want to show different country letters become different continent shapes on our earth, the software here
Can Not.

[wln2024]

i just know how to save pattern on the viewer,

[wln2024]

It seems whatever pattern save on viewer, you all has already found it.

[confocaloid]

[..] the software here
Can Not.

I think you are seriously underestimating what the software here can do.

fine，what i do, is commercializing theory discovery work, [...]
[...] payment [...]
[...] come to China to visit me,or follow my rules out of this website. [...]

Please stop advertising yourself.
These forums are for sharing knowledge about Conway's Life and other cellular automata.
If you are here for sharing CA reactions, mechanisms, constructed patterns, discussing related mathematics, ideas, concepts, then welcome.

If not, then I'd say these forums already saw way too much distracting spammish talk about various deficiencies of the real world, and about specific people (even though some of those people don't really deserve to be discussed in such depth), despite such distractions having nothing to do with CGoL or other CA.

[wln2024]

Let's do normal communication.
Some of the patterns on this website are fun.

[b-engine]

Let's do normal communication.
Some of the patterns on this website are fun.

What's the website you're referring to? You didn't provide any hyperlink.

[confocaloid]

Maybe they are referring to this website (conwaylife), but hard to tell for sure without further clarifications.

[otismo]

wln2024 Welcome to our Community !

Thank You for sharing/posting your Patterns !

It does take some imagination to see

Continents !

Here, the letter R

refers to the R Pentominoe

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x = 3, y = 3, rule = B3/S23
b2o$2o$bo!

[wln2024]

it's like Ukraine shape