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Re: Suggested LifeWiki edits

Post by confocaloid » June 12th, 2022, 7:30 pm

What is a reasonable alternative to using explicit linebreaks in wiki formatting? Explicit linebreaks are a problem since readers use devices with different screen sizes. My first impulse is to just remove explicit linebreaks when I see them, but are there better solutions?

Here is what I mean (from the current version of "Null reaction"):
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Re: Suggested LifeWiki edits

Post by Book » June 12th, 2022, 7:45 pm

confocaloid wrote:
June 12th, 2022, 7:30 pm
What is a reasonable alternative to using explicit linebreaks in wiki formatting? Explicit linebreaks are a problem since readers use devices with different screen sizes. My first impulse is to just remove explicit linebreaks when I see them, but are there better solutions?
1. I think a better practice would be to have the caption no wider than the viewer width.

2. Without breaks, the opposite problem occurs in wider screens, namely, excessively wide viewer captions.

Not sure simply removing the breaks is a good idea,
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Re: Suggested LifeWiki edits

Post by confocaloid » June 12th, 2022, 8:13 pm

The effect of manually inserted linebreaks is that it looks bad for almost everyone (I have attached a picture in my post above), except for those with the same screen width.

I like more the old version (without manually inserted linebreaks). I think it looks mostly good for sufficiently many readers. For comparison, here is how the old version looks like on my screen (with two different widths of the browser window):
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Re: Suggested LifeWiki edits

Post by Book » June 13th, 2022, 8:02 pm

To break or not to break? You make good points. Let me add one other thought. Where it fits the article, I prefer to move most text out of long captions and into body text.
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Re: Suggested LifeWiki edits

Post by carsoncheng » June 20th, 2022, 2:32 am

It appears that many pages about strict still lifes and induction coils are not notable. Examples include: There are many more of these short, potentially non-notable pages, so if you think they really aren't notable, make sure you check the "Strict still lifes" and "Induction coils" categories for similarly-structured pages.

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Re: Suggested LifeWiki edits

Post by Citation needed » June 20th, 2022, 7:50 pm

The list of 180-degree collisions on 2-glider_collision doesn't seem to match ColorfulGalaxy's stamp collection. It seems that either of them must have a mistake.

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Re: Suggested LifeWiki edits

Post by hotdogPi » June 21st, 2022, 2:49 am

carsoncheng wrote:
June 20th, 2022, 2:32 am
It appears that many pages about strict still lifes and induction coils are not notable. Examples include: There are many more of these short, potentially non-notable pages, so if you think they really aren't notable, make sure you check the "Strict still lifes" and "Induction coils" categories for similarly-structured pages.
All strict still lifes with 12 or fewer cells have pages. They mostly look the same, but I tried to add information such as "only 12-cell within a 7×3 box", "most common that works in B35/S23", "X times rarer than related 11-cell", "most common 12-ecll unsynthesizable in 4 gliders", etc. on the ones where it applied. I agree about the others except bookend siamese table, where I am borderline.
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Re: Suggested LifeWiki edits

Post by ihatecorderships » June 21st, 2022, 3:45 pm

Something's wrong with the P4-assisted_period-28_glider_gun page.
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Re: Suggested LifeWiki edits

Post by dvgrn » June 21st, 2022, 4:18 pm

ihatecorderships wrote:
June 21st, 2022, 3:45 pm
Something's wrong with the P4-assisted_period-28_glider_gun page.
Fixed -- looks like the reference section got updated, but without changing the actual reference in the embedded LifeViewer caption.

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Re: Suggested LifeWiki edits

Post by confocaloid » June 27th, 2022, 2:08 am

Are redirects with typos useful/appropriate? Should something be done with these? Two recent examples are Suprise and Polymino.
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Re: Suggested LifeWiki edits

Post by dvgrn » June 27th, 2022, 7:31 am

confocaloid wrote:
June 27th, 2022, 2:08 am
Are redirects with typos useful/appropriate? Should something be done with these? Two recent examples are Suprise and Polymino.
I think we can safely let Atavoidirc know that it's not a good idea to try to anticipate every possible way that somebody could misspell something. The misspellings will end up showing up on too many LifeWiki lists, and on balance they'll just confuse things rather than being helpful.

Redirects like that really need to be restricted to valid alternate spellings of things (which are relatively rare).

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Re: Suggested LifeWiki edits

Post by carsoncheng » June 29th, 2022, 5:10 am

Five suggested edits for the glider syntheses tutorial for LifeWiki:
  • We do not need a Python script for an RLE-to-apgcode anymore in the "Using Catagolue to find syntheses" section. Instead, we can use catagolue.hatsya.com/object to direct you to the object page.
  • We should complete the "popseq" section of the tutorial, which has been abandoned since September 2021.
  • The octo3obj database should be included in the "find-octohash-Python3.py" section.
  • inside 12x12 ➡️ inside a 12x12 bounding box

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Re: Suggested LifeWiki edits

Post by dvgrn » June 29th, 2022, 12:46 pm

carsoncheng wrote:
June 29th, 2022, 5:10 am
Five suggested edits for the glider syntheses tutorial for LifeWiki:
  • We do not need a Python script for an RLE-to-apgcode anymore in the "Using Catagolue to find syntheses" section. Instead, we can use catagolue.hatsya.com/object to direct you to the object page.
  • We should complete the "popseq" section of the tutorial, which has been abandoned since September 2021.
  • The octo3obj database should be included in the "find-octohash-Python3.py" section.
  • inside 12x12 ➡️ inside a 12x12 bounding box
I've made most of these changes. The 'find-preds.py' -> 'synthtools.py pred()' update is still a work in progress, since I personally can't seem to make a pred() call work in any even vaguely convenient way. I could probably make it work by rewriting pred() -- maybe calling it "find-pred.py" while I'm at it! -- but it doesn't seem to make sense to put all that annoying dependency-wrestling into the tutorial.

Can someone that finds it easy to run, say,

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p("xp46_330279cx1aad3y833zx4e93x855bc")
and get actual useful predecessors back instead of copies of the oscillator, please explain step-by-step exactly what they're doing?

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Re: Suggested LifeWiki edits

Post by carsoncheng » June 29th, 2022, 7:12 pm

This is a working version of the new findpreds.py, where most of the code is directly taken from Shinjuku, crossposted from Discord:

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import lifelib
sess = lifelib.load_rules('b3s23')
lt = sess.lifetree()
import sys, os, lifelib, ssl, random
ssl._create_default_https_context = ssl._create_unverified_context
rle = input("Apgcode: ")
sym = input("Symmetry: ")
lt = lifelib.load_rules('b3s23').lifetree(n_layers=1)
zero = lt.pattern()
pat = lt.pattern(rle)
rew = int(sys.argv[3]) if len(sys.argv) >= 4 else 50
max_soups = int(sys.argv[4]) if len(sys.argv) >= 5 else 1000
del_islands = True
def island_delete(soup, pat, rew):
    """Helper to pred() that deletes islands from soup[birth_t - rew] such that
    pat still persists at soup[birth_t + rew]. If birth_t < rew then return None,
    otherwise also return birth_t as the second argument of a tuple."""
    # Struzik search for the first generation where the given pattern occurs.
    # f(k) below is whether the soup has produced the object at generation k.
    period = pat.period
    def f(k):
        sn = soup[k]
        for p in range(period):
            if sn != sn.replace(pat[p], lt.pattern(), halo="3o$3o$3o", orientations="rotate4reflect"):
                return True
        return False
    for expo in range(64):
        if f(2 ** expo):
            lower, upper = 1, 2 ** expo
            break
    while upper - lower > 1:
        mid = (lower + upper) // 2
        if f(mid): upper = mid
        else: lower = mid
    if upper < rew: return None
    soup = soup[upper - rew]
    # Delete most unnecessary islands
    for c in soup.components(halo="3o$3o$3o"):
        soup -= c
        if not f(2 * rew): soup += c
    soup = soup[1]
    for c in soup.components(halo="3o$3o$3o"):
        soup -= c
        if not f(2 * rew): soup += c
    return (soup.centre(), upper)

mosaic = lt.pattern()
successful = 0
resultFile = open("samples.txt", "w")
try:
    souplist = list(enumerate(pat.download_samples()[sym]))
    print(len(souplist))
    souplist_old = souplist
    random.shuffle(souplist)
    for (n, soup) in souplist:
        if del_islands:
            try: soup, birth_t = island_delete(soup, pat, rew)
            except TypeError: continue
            print(f"{n} -> {birth_t}")
        mosaic += soup(successful // 10 * 100, successful % 10 * 100)
        successful += 1
    mosaic.save("soups.rle")
    os.remove("tempfile")
except KeyboardInterrupt:
    mosaic.save("soups.rle")
    os.remove("tempfile")

To use it, we just need to install lifelib if necessary, run the program, and paste the apgcode of the object you want to search in the input box that appears at the beginning of the program's execution. It has the additional features of shuffling the soup list and not losing your search results after you terminate a search early.

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Re: Suggested LifeWiki edits

Post by carsoncheng » July 1st, 2022, 6:28 am

hotdogPi wrote:
June 21st, 2022, 2:49 am
carsoncheng wrote:
June 20th, 2022, 2:32 am
It appears that many pages about strict still lifes and induction coils are not notable. Examples include: There are many more of these short, potentially non-notable pages, so if you think they really aren't notable, make sure you check the "Strict still lifes" and "Induction coils" categories for similarly-structured pages.
All strict still lifes with 12 or fewer cells have pages. They mostly look the same, but I tried to add information such as "only 12-cell within a 7×3 box", "most common that works in B35/S23", "X times rarer than related 11-cell", "most common 12-ecll unsynthesizable in 4 gliders", etc. on the ones where it applied. I agree about the others except bookend siamese table, where I am borderline.
Is it suitable to redirect these pages to the lists of still lifes with a given amount of cells (e.g., https://conwaylife.com/wiki/List_of_still_lifes_with_13_cells)? It's essentially what has been done for oscillators like 1 beacon.

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Re: Suggested LifeWiki edits

Post by May13 » July 1st, 2022, 7:14 am

https://conwaylife.com/wiki/Spaceship wrote: The following is an incomplete list of some higher-period ships which travel at the same velocities:
...
12c/28 | orthogonal | 3c/7 wave stabilization | 1434
...
Actual minimum # of cells is 307:

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x = 55, y = 52, rule = B3/S23
20b3o9b3o$20bo2bo7bo2bo$19b2o13b2o$17b2obo3bo5bo3bob2o$20b3ob2o3b2ob3o
$16bo21bo$17bobob5o3b5obobo$17bo3bo2b2o3b2o2bo3bo$17bo3b3o7b3o3bo$17bo
4bo9bo4bo$21b3o7b3o$20bo2b2o5b2o2bo$23b2o5b2o$19b2o4bo3bo4b2o$18bo3bo
3bobo3bo3bo$15b2ob3obobobobobobob3ob2o$14bo5b2o4bobo4b2o5bo$13bo4b2o
15b2o4bo$13b3o8bo5bo8b3o$22b2o7b2o$23bo2bobo2bo$15bo8b2o3b2o8bo$12bo3b
o7bo5bo7bo3bo$15bo23bo$10b2o31b2o$9bo2b2o27b2o2bo$9b2o2bo27bo2b2o$10b
2o2bo25bo2b2o$11bobo27bobo2$9b3o31b3o$9bo35bo$7b2o2bo31bo2b2o$6b2o39b
2o$5bo2bo37bo2bo$4b2o43b2o$3bo47bo$3b3o43b3o$4b2o43b2o2$5bobo39bobo$5b
obo39bobo2$5b2o4bo7bo7bo7bo7bo4b2o$3bo6bobo5bobo5bobo5bobo5bobo6bo$b2o
2bo3b2ob2o3b2ob2o3b2ob2o3b2ob2o3b2ob2o3bo2b2o$bo3bo3bo11bo3bo11bo3bo7b
o3bo$o2bo47bo2bo$o2bo47bo2bo$b2o49b2o$8bobo9bo5bo9bo5bo$9bo11bo3bo11bo
3bo!
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Re: Suggested LifeWiki edits

Post by pzq_alex » July 2nd, 2022, 3:07 am

May13 wrote:
July 1st, 2022, 7:14 am
https://conwaylife.com/wiki/Spaceship wrote: The following is an incomplete list of some higher-period ships which travel at the same velocities:
...
12c/28 | orthogonal | 3c/7 wave stabilization | 1434
...
Actual minimum # of cells is 307:

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x = 55, y = 52, rule = B3/S23
20b3o9b3o$20bo2bo7bo2bo$19b2o13b2o$17b2obo3bo5bo3bob2o$20b3ob2o3b2ob3o
$16bo21bo$17bobob5o3b5obobo$17bo3bo2b2o3b2o2bo3bo$17bo3b3o7b3o3bo$17bo
4bo9bo4bo$21b3o7b3o$20bo2b2o5b2o2bo$23b2o5b2o$19b2o4bo3bo4b2o$18bo3bo
3bobo3bo3bo$15b2ob3obobobobobobob3ob2o$14bo5b2o4bobo4b2o5bo$13bo4b2o
15b2o4bo$13b3o8bo5bo8b3o$22b2o7b2o$23bo2bobo2bo$15bo8b2o3b2o8bo$12bo3b
o7bo5bo7bo3bo$15bo23bo$10b2o31b2o$9bo2b2o27b2o2bo$9b2o2bo27bo2b2o$10b
2o2bo25bo2b2o$11bobo27bobo2$9b3o31b3o$9bo35bo$7b2o2bo31bo2b2o$6b2o39b
2o$5bo2bo37bo2bo$4b2o43b2o$3bo47bo$3b3o43b3o$4b2o43b2o2$5bobo39bobo$5b
obo39bobo2$5b2o4bo7bo7bo7bo7bo4b2o$3bo6bobo5bobo5bobo5bobo5bobo6bo$b2o
2bo3b2ob2o3b2ob2o3b2ob2o3b2ob2o3b2ob2o3bo2b2o$bo3bo3bo11bo3bo11bo3bo7b
o3bo$o2bo47bo2bo$o2bo47bo2bo$b2o49b2o$8bobo9bo5bo9bo5bo$9bo11bo3bo11bo
3bo!
I don’t think that counts as a wave stabilization because the section of the wave is finite and non-extensible, whereas the stablization using Spaghetti monsters counts and indeed has minpop 1434.
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Re: Suggested LifeWiki edits

Post by May13 » July 2nd, 2022, 3:17 am

pzq_alex wrote:
July 2nd, 2022, 3:07 am
May13 wrote:
July 1st, 2022, 7:14 am
https://conwaylife.com/wiki/Spaceship wrote: The following is an incomplete list of some higher-period ships which travel at the same velocities:
...
12c/28 | orthogonal | 3c/7 wave stabilization | 1434
...
Actual minimum # of cells is 307:

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x = 55, y = 52, rule = B3/S23
20b3o9b3o$20bo2bo7bo2bo$19b2o13b2o$17b2obo3bo5bo3bob2o$20b3ob2o3b2ob3o
$16bo21bo$17bobob5o3b5obobo$17bo3bo2b2o3b2o2bo3bo$17bo3b3o7b3o3bo$17bo
4bo9bo4bo$21b3o7b3o$20bo2b2o5b2o2bo$23b2o5b2o$19b2o4bo3bo4b2o$18bo3bo
3bobo3bo3bo$15b2ob3obobobobobobob3ob2o$14bo5b2o4bobo4b2o5bo$13bo4b2o
15b2o4bo$13b3o8bo5bo8b3o$22b2o7b2o$23bo2bobo2bo$15bo8b2o3b2o8bo$12bo3b
o7bo5bo7bo3bo$15bo23bo$10b2o31b2o$9bo2b2o27b2o2bo$9b2o2bo27bo2b2o$10b
2o2bo25bo2b2o$11bobo27bobo2$9b3o31b3o$9bo35bo$7b2o2bo31bo2b2o$6b2o39b
2o$5bo2bo37bo2bo$4b2o43b2o$3bo47bo$3b3o43b3o$4b2o43b2o2$5bobo39bobo$5b
obo39bobo2$5b2o4bo7bo7bo7bo7bo4b2o$3bo6bobo5bobo5bobo5bobo5bobo6bo$b2o
2bo3b2ob2o3b2ob2o3b2ob2o3b2ob2o3b2ob2o3bo2b2o$bo3bo3bo11bo3bo11bo3bo7b
o3bo$o2bo47bo2bo$o2bo47bo2bo$b2o49b2o$8bobo9bo5bo9bo5bo$9bo11bo3bo11bo
3bo!
I don’t think that counts as a wave stabilization because the section of the wave is finite and non-extensible, whereas the stablization using Spaghetti monsters counts and indeed has minpop 1434.
Wave can be extended in 2 ways:

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x = 289, y = 54, rule = B3/S23
20b3o9b3o17b3o9b3o17b3o9b3o17b3o9b3o51b3o9b3o57b3o9b3o$20bo2bo7bo2bo
17bo2bo7bo2bo17bo2bo7bo2bo17bo2bo7bo2bo51bo2bo7bo2bo57bo2bo7bo2bo$19b
2o13b2o15b2o13b2o15b2o13b2o15b2o13b2o49b2o13b2o55b2o13b2o$17b2obo3bo5b
o3bob2o11b2obo3bo5bo3bob2o11b2obo3bo5bo3bob2o11b2obo3bo5bo3bob2o45b2ob
o3bo5bo3bob2o51b2obo3bo5bo3bob2o$20b3ob2o3b2ob3o17b3ob2o3b2ob3o17b3ob
2o3b2ob3o17b3ob2o3b2ob3o51b3ob2o3b2ob3o57b3ob2o3b2ob3o$16bo21bo9bo21bo
9bo21bo9bo21bo43bo21bo49bo21bo$17bobob5o3b5obobo11bobob5o3b5obobo11bob
ob5o3b5obobo11bobob5o3b5obobo45bobob5o3b5obobo51bobob5o3b5obobo$17bo3b
o2b2o3b2o2bo3bo11bo3bo2b2o3b2o2bo3bo11bo3bo2b2o3b2o2bo3bo11bo3bo2b2o3b
2o2bo3bo45bo3bo2b2o3b2o2bo3bo51bo3bo2b2o3b2o2bo3bo$17bo3b3o7b3o3bo11bo
3b3o7b3o3bo11bo3b3o7b3o3bo11bo3b3o7b3o3bo45bo3b3o7b3o3bo51bo3b3o7b3o3b
o$17bo4bo9bo4bo11bo4bo9bo4bo11bo4bo9bo4bo11bo4bo9bo4bo45bo4bo9bo4bo51b
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o57bo2b2o5b2o2bo$23b2o5b2o23b2o5b2o23b2o5b2o23b2o5b2o57b2o5b2o63b2o5b
2o$19b2o4bo3bo4b2o15b2o4bo3bo4b2o15b2o4bo3bo4b2o15b2o4bo3bo4b2o49b2o4b
o3bo4b2o55b2o4bo3bo4b2o$18bo3bo3bobo3bo3bo13bo3bo3bobo3bo3bo13bo3bo3bo
bo3bo3bo13bo3bo3bobo3bo3bo47bo3bo3bobo3bo3bo53bo3bo3bobo3bo3bo$15b2ob
3obobobobobobob3ob2o7b2ob3obobobobobobob3ob2o7b2ob3obobobobobobob3ob2o
7b2ob3obobobobobobob3ob2o41b2ob3obobobobobobob3ob2o47b2ob3obobobobobob
ob3ob2o$14bo5b2o4bobo4b2o5bo5bo5b2o4bobo4b2o5bo5bo5b2o4bobo4b2o5bo5bo
5b2o4bobo4b2o5bo39bo5b2o4bobo4b2o5bo45bo5b2o4bobo4b2o5bo$13bo4b2o15b2o
4bo3bo4b2o15b2o4bo3bo4b2o15b2o4bo3bo4b2o15b2o4bo37bo4b2o15b2o4bo43bo4b
2o15b2o4bo$13b3o8bo5bo8b3o3b3o8bo5bo8b3o3b3o8bo5bo8b3o3b3o8bo5bo8b3o
37b3o8bo5bo8b3o43b3o8bo5bo8b3o$22b2o7b2o21b2o7b2o21b2o7b2o21b2o7b2o55b
2o7b2o61b2o7b2o$23bo2bobo2bo23bo2bobo2bo23bo2bobo2bo23bo2bobo2bo57bo2b
obo2bo63bo2bobo2bo$15bo8b2o3b2o10bo3bo10b2o3b2o10bo3bo10b2o3b2o10bo3bo
10b2o3b2o8bo41bo8b2o3b2o8bo47bo8b2o3b2o8bo$12bo3bo7bo5bo10bo3bo10bo5bo
10bo3bo10bo5bo10bo3bo10bo5bo7bo3bo35bo3bo7bo5bo7bo3bo41bo3bo7bo5bo7bo
3bo$15bo25bo3bo27bo3bo27bo3bo25bo41bo23bo47bo23bo$10b2o127b2o31b2o31b
2o37b2o31b2o$9bo2b2o123b2o2bo29bo2b2o27b2o2bo35bo2b2o27b2o2bo$9b2o2bo
26b7o25b7o25b7o26bo2b2o29b2o2bo27bo2b2o35b2o2bo27bo2b2o$10b2o2bo24bo2b
3o2bo23bo2b3o2bo23bo2b3o2bo24bo2b2o31b2o2bo25bo2b2o37b2o2bo25bo2b2o$
11bobo26bobobobo25bobobobo25bobobobo26bobo33bobo27bobo39bobo27bobo2$9b
3o29b5o27b5o27b5o29b3o29b3o31b3o35b3o31b3o$9bo32b3o29b3o29b3o32bo29bo
35bo35bo35bo$7b2o2bo127bo2b2o25b2o2bo31bo2b2o31b2o2bo31bo2b2o$6b2o135b
2o23b2o39b2o29b2o39b2o$5bo2bo133bo2bo21bo2bo37bo2bo27bo2bo37bo2bo$4b2o
139b2o19b2o43b2o25b2o43b2o$3bo143bo17bo47bo23bo47bo$3b3o139b3o17b3o43b
3o23b3o43b3o$4b2o139b2o19b2o43b2o25b2o43b2o2$5bobo135bobo21bobo39bobo
27bobo39bobo$5bobo135bobo21bobo39bobo27bobo39bobo2$5b2o4bo7bo7bo7bo7bo
7bo7bo7bo7bo7bo7bo7bo7bo7bo7bo7bo7bo4b2o21b2o4bo36b2o27b2o36bo4b2o$3bo
6bobo5bobo5bobo5bobo5bobo5bobo5bobo5bobo5bobo5bobo5bobo5bobo5bobo5bobo
5bobo5bobo5bobo6bo17bo6bobo101bobo6bo$b2o2bo3b2ob2o3b2ob2o3b2ob2o3b2ob
2o3b2ob2o3b2ob2o3b2ob2o3b2ob2o3b2ob2o3b2ob2o3b2ob2o3b2ob2o3b2ob2o3b2ob
2o3b2ob2o3b2ob2o3b2ob2o3bo2b2o13b2o2bo3b2ob2o5bo7bo7bo7bo7bo7bo7bo7bo
7bo7bo7bo7bo5b2ob2o3bo2b2o$bo3bo3bo11bo3bo11bo3bo11bo3bo11bo3bo11bo3bo
11bo3bo11bo3bo11bo3bo7bo3bo13bo3bo3bo8bobo5bobo5bobo5bobo5bobo5bobo5bo
bo5bobo5bobo5bobo5bobo5bobo8bo3bo3bo$o2bo143bo2bo11bo2bo13b2ob2o3b2ob
2o3b2ob2o3b2ob2o3b2ob2o3b2ob2o3b2ob2o3b2ob2o3b2ob2o3b2ob2o3b2ob2o3b2ob
2o13bo2bo$o2bo143bo2bo11bo2bo17bo3bo11bo3bo11bo3bo11bo3bo11bo3bo11bo3b
o17bo2bo$b2o145b2o13b2o11b2o95b2o11b2o$8bobo9bo5bo9bo5bo9bo5bo9bo5bo9b
o5bo9bo5bo9bo5bo9bo5bo31bobo2bo99bo2bobo$9bo11bo3bo11bo3bo11bo3bo11bo
3bo11bo3bo11bo3bo11bo3bo11bo3bo33bo4bobo93bobo4bo$178bo3bo5bo9bo5bo9bo
5bo9bo5bo9bo5bo9bo5bo3bo$183bo3bo11bo3bo11bo3bo11bo3bo11bo3bo11bo3bo!
Edit: 2 spaceships also can support non-skewed variant of wave:

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x = 255, y = 80, rule = B3/S23
64b3o9b3o97b3o9b3o$64bo2bo7bo2bo97bo2bo7bo2bo$63b2o13b2o95b2o13b2o$61b
2obo3bo5bo3bob2o91b2obo3bo5bo3bob2o$64b3ob2o3b2ob3o97b3ob2o3b2ob3o$60b
o21bo89bo21bo$61bobob5o3b5obobo91bobob5o3b5obobo$61bo3bo2b2o3b2o2bo3bo
91bo3bo2b2o3b2o2bo3bo$61bo3b3o7b3o3bo91bo3b3o7b3o3bo$61bo4bo9bo4bo91bo
4bo9bo4bo$65b3o7b3o99b3o7b3o$64bo2b2o5b2o2bo97bo2b2o5b2o2bo$67b2o5b2o
103b2o5b2o$63b2o4bo3bo4b2o95b2o4bo3bo4b2o$62bo3bo3bobo3bo3bo93bo3bo3bo
bo3bo3bo$59b2ob3obobobobobobob3ob2o87b2ob3obobobobobobob3ob2o$58bo5b2o
4bobo4b2o5bo85bo5b2o4bobo4b2o5bo$57bo4b2o15b2o4bo83bo4b2o15b2o4bo$57b
3o8bo5bo8b3o83b3o8bo5bo8b3o$66b2o7b2o101b2o7b2o$67bo2bobo2bo103bo2bobo
2bo$59bo8b2o3b2o8bo87bo8b2o3b2o8bo$56bo3bo7bo5bo7bo3bo81bo3bo7bo5bo7bo
3bo$59bo23bo87bo23bo$54b2o31b2o77b2o31b2o$53bo2b2o27b2o2bo75bo2b2o27b
2o2bo$53b2o2bo27bo2b2o75b2o2bo27bo2b2o$54b2o2bo25bo2b2o77b2o2bo25bo2b
2o$20b3o9b3o20bobo27bobo79bobo27bobo20b3o9b3o$20bo2bo7bo2bo185bo2bo7bo
2bo$19b2o13b2o17b3o31b3o75b3o31b3o17b2o13b2o$17b2obo3bo5bo3bob2o15bo
35bo75bo35bo15b2obo3bo5bo3bob2o$20b3ob2o3b2ob3o16b2o2bo31bo2b2o71b2o2b
o31bo2b2o16b3ob2o3b2ob3o$16bo21bo11b2o39b2o69b2o39b2o11bo21bo$17bobob
5o3b5obobo11bo2bo37bo2bo67bo2bo37bo2bo11bobob5o3b5obobo$17bo3bo2b2o3b
2o2bo3bo10b2o43b2o65b2o43b2o10bo3bo2b2o3b2o2bo3bo$17bo3b3o7b3o3bo9bo
47bo63bo47bo9bo3b3o7b3o3bo$17bo4bo9bo4bo9b3o43b3o63b3o43b3o9bo4bo9bo4b
o$21b3o7b3o14b2o43b2o65b2o43b2o14b3o7b3o$20bo2b2o5b2o2bo185bo2b2o5b2o
2bo$23b2o5b2o17bobo39bobo67bobo39bobo17b2o5b2o$19b2o4bo3bo4b2o13bobo
39bobo67bobo39bobo13b2o4bo3bo4b2o$18bo3bo3bobo3bo3bo181bo3bo3bobo3bo3b
o$15b2ob3obobobobobobob3ob2o9b2o41b2o67b2o41b2o9b2ob3obobobobobobob3ob
2o$14bo5b2o4bobo4b2o5bo6bo47bo63bo47bo6bo5b2o4bobo4b2o5bo$13bo4b2o15b
2o4bo3b2o2bo43bo2b2o59b2o2bo43bo2b2o3bo4b2o15b2o4bo$13b3o8bo5bo8b3o3bo
3bo43bo3bo59bo3bo43bo3bo3b3o8bo5bo8b3o$22b2o7b2o11bo2bo47bo2bo57bo2bo
47bo2bo11b2o7b2o$23bo2bobo2bo12bo2bo47bo2bo57bo2bo47bo2bo12bo2bobo2bo$
15bo8b2o3b2o14b2o49b2o59b2o49b2o14b2o3b2o8bo$12bo3bo7bo5bo193bo5bo7bo
3bo$15bo223bo$10b2o231b2o$9bo2b2o227b2o2bo$9b2o2bo227bo2b2o$10b2o2bo
225bo2b2o$11bobo227bobo2$9b3o231b3o$9bo235bo$7b2o2bo231bo2b2o$6b2o239b
2o$5bo2bo237bo2bo$4b2o243b2o$3bo247bo$3b3o243b3o$4b2o243b2o2$5bobo239b
obo$5bobo239bobo2$5b2o4bo7bo7bo7bo7bo7bo7bo7bo7bo7bo7bo7bo7bo7bo7bo7bo
7bo7bo7bo7bo7bo7bo7bo7bo7bo7bo7bo7bo7bo7bo4b2o$3bo6bobo5bobo5bobo5bobo
5bobo5bobo5bobo5bobo5bobo5bobo5bobo5bobo5bobo5bobo5bobo5bobo5bobo5bobo
5bobo5bobo5bobo5bobo5bobo5bobo5bobo5bobo5bobo5bobo5bobo5bobo6bo$b2o2bo
3b2ob2o3b2ob2o3b2ob2o3b2ob2o3b2ob2o3b2ob2o3b2ob2o3b2ob2o3b2ob2o3b2ob2o
3b2ob2o3b2ob2o3b2ob2o3b2ob2o3b2ob2o3b2ob2o3b2ob2o3b2ob2o3b2ob2o3b2ob2o
3b2ob2o3b2ob2o3b2ob2o3b2ob2o3b2ob2o3b2ob2o3b2ob2o3b2ob2o3b2ob2o3b2ob2o
3bo2b2o$bo3bo3bo11bo3bo11bo3bo11bo3bo11bo3bo11bo3bo11bo3bo11bo3bo11bo
3bo11bo3bo11bo3bo11bo3bo11bo3bo11bo3bo11bo3bo11bo3bo3bo$o2bo247bo2bo$o
2bo247bo2bo$b2o249b2o$8bobo9bo5bo9bo5bo9bo5bo9bo5bo9bo5bo9bo5bo9bo5bo
9bo5bo9bo5bo9bo5bo9bo5bo9bo5bo9bo5bo9bo5bo9bobo$9bo11bo3bo11bo3bo11bo
3bo11bo3bo11bo3bo11bo3bo11bo3bo11bo3bo11bo3bo11bo3bo11bo3bo11bo3bo11bo
3bo11bo3bo11bo!
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Re: Suggested LifeWiki edits

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Re: Suggested LifeWiki edits

Post by carsoncheng » July 9th, 2022, 11:31 pm

In the "popseq" section of Tutorials/Glider syntheses, it is mentioned that:
popseq.py was designed to operate on whatever set of gencols collision results you want it to search, so you might set up the script to use a database of 2-glider, 3-glider, or 4-glider collisions, or whatever custom collision set you might want to search. Setup details can be found in the above links.
However, this statement doesn't mention popseq.c, which should be compatible with different databases as well. Attempting to do these modifications by yourself is likely very inconvenient to people who are not familiar with LifeAPI. If you know how to do it, would you mind adding the link of the relevant forum post to the tutorial, or posting the details in threads related to popseq.c, and link your post to this tutorial?

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Re: Suggested LifeWiki edits

Post by carsoncheng » July 15th, 2022, 8:12 am

In the news item for the completion of the 14-in-9 project on July 15, the pattern naming, where the still life is named "snake-bridge-snake", is quite misleading. Snake bridge snake is xs12_ck3123z11, but the still life mentioned is xs14_dbgzw1qm. Since this pattern is unnamed, I guess it will be better for the apgcode of the object to be directly mentioned on the news item, and link the apgcode to the Catagolue page of the object.

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Re: Suggested LifeWiki edits

Post by Macbi » July 17th, 2022, 9:31 am

On Electric fence the pattern file links below the viewer in the middle of the page are broken. I tried to fix it by changing the pattern name to 'electricfence' instead of 'electricfences', but in the preview it showed that this broke the viewer. Can someone fix it?

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Post by Book » July 17th, 2022, 12:41 pm

Macbi wrote:
July 17th, 2022, 9:31 am
On Electric fence the pattern file links below the viewer in the middle of the page are broken. I tried to fix it by changing the pattern name to 'electricfence' instead of 'electricfences', but in the preview it showed that this broke the viewer. Can someone fix it?
Newly added RLEs are swept into the wiki database from time to time by a manual admin process. Thus the seemingly broken link. You can still get the RLE from the viewer using ctrl-c.
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Re: Suggested LifeWiki edits

Post by pzq_alex » July 18th, 2022, 10:06 am

#53 and #54 on the 14-cell sl list seem to be the same
\sum_{n=1}^\infty H_n/n^2 = \zeta(3)

How much of current CA technology can I redevelop "on a desert island"?

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Re: Suggested LifeWiki edits

Post by Book » July 18th, 2022, 12:53 pm

pzq_alex wrote:
July 18th, 2022, 10:06 am
#53 and #54 on the 14-cell sl list seem to be the same
nice catch; corrected
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