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Posted: **June 28th, 2022, 6:09 pm**

pzq_alex wrote: ↑
June 28th, 2022, 8:17 am
The LifeViewer in viewtopic.php?p=86546#p86532 failed to load, presumably because the preceding ruletable has no actual @RULE line (just the header), or the rule name starts with W.

It's because the rule needs to be added to the LifeWiki Rule namespace.

Posted: **June 28th, 2022, 9:41 pm**

Might be missing something obvious here as I tend to do, but the patterns in this post are showing up as "New Pattern", despite being very much not empty. The rule (Rule:BBM) didn't previously exist, but creating it on the wiki did not fix the issue.

Even more strangely, the following RLE (taken from the post immediately afterwards) shows up as a completely different pattern with completely different behavior from the intended rule:

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x = 11, y = 17, rule = BBM
5.D4$.H7.B3$2.P5.P$PAQP3.PQDP$2.P5.P3$.B7.H4$5.D!

Maybe "BBM" is being interpreted as something else here?

Posted: **June 29th, 2022, 2:47 am**

Ian07 wrote: ↑
June 28th, 2022, 9:41 pm
Might be missing something obvious here as I tend to do, but the patterns in this post are showing up as "New Pattern", despite being very much not empty. The rule (Rule:BBM) didn't previously exist, but creating it on the wiki did not fix the issue.

Maybe "BBM" is being interpreted as something else here?

BBM is a built-in alias for Margolus rule M0,8,4,3,2,5,9,7,1,6,10,11,12,13,14,15.

Help->Info->Pattern will report the alias. Help->Aliases will give you a list of all of the aliases that LifeViewer understands.

Aliases are checked first so you'll need to rename the rule on LifeWiki (and in your pattern) if you want it to be loaded.

Posted: **July 3rd, 2022, 6:36 am**

Identify can make the gen number out of the LOOP range.

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x = 3, y = 3, rule = B3/S23
obo$bo$bo!
[[ LOOP 3 ]]

Posted: **July 3rd, 2022, 11:53 am**

pzq_alex wrote: ↑
July 3rd, 2022, 6:36 am
Identify can make the gen number out of the LOOP range.

True. Identify temporarily disables LOOP while searching.

Posted: **July 30th, 2022, 7:32 pm**

Viewer has stopped working in Chrome 103.0.5060.134 for forums and the CGOL home page for last 24 hours. Works just fine in wiki. Works fine on same PC in Edge everywhere. Works fine on my laptop.

Displays no patterns. Does display "click to control." Yet it seems to run the patterns, just nothing visible but the black viewer.

I deleted all my cached stuff for the CGOL domain. No joy.

Any idea?

Update: and just like that, it is now not working on laptop as well. Same symptoms as desktop. Argh!

Posted: **July 31st, 2022, 3:44 pm**

Book wrote: ↑
July 30th, 2022, 7:32 pm
Viewer has stopped working in Chrome 103.0.5060.134 for forums and the CGOL home page for last 24 hours. Works just fine in wiki. Works fine on same PC in Edge everywhere. Works fine on my laptop.

Displays no patterns. Does display "click to control." Yet it seems to run the patterns, just nothing visible but the black viewer.

I deleted all my cached stuff for the CGOL domain. No joy.

Any idea?

Update: and just like that, it is now not working on laptop as well. Same symptoms as desktop. Argh!

Sorry no idea. It's working fine for me on the same Chrome version. I'm on Windows 11. There haven't been any changes to LifeViewer recently.

Posted: **July 31st, 2022, 4:43 pm**

Weird! Works fine on Edge, laptop (win 11) and PC (win 10).

Does not work on Chrome (which I uninstalled and reinstalled) on either computer.

Also does not work running PatMan which uses the plugin. Tried an old version of plugin and the latest.

And yet wiki viewers run fine.

So weird.

Update: per Discord, I am not alone. Another weirdness: works fine on Chrome on another Win 10 desktop on the same router.

Posted: **July 31st, 2022, 8:06 pm**

Since nobody has said it yet, there's no change in Safari. The "sometimes force reload" issue from before never went away, but Safari is not getting what everyone is now reporting is happening in Chrome.

Posted: **August 1st, 2022, 1:06 pm**

Book wrote: ↑
July 30th, 2022, 7:32 pm
Viewer has stopped working in Chrome 103.0.5060.134 for forums and the CGOL home page for last 24 hours. Works just fine in wiki. Works fine on same PC in Edge everywhere. Works fine on my laptop.

I put in an experimental fix for this in build 721. Please hard refresh your browser and try another Viewer. Check it is on the right build by clicking "Help" and the build number will be displayed at the top.

Please let me know how you get on.

Posted: **August 1st, 2022, 1:57 pm**

rowett wrote: ↑
August 1st, 2022, 1:06 pm

Book wrote: ↑
July 30th, 2022, 7:32 pm
Viewer has stopped working in Chrome 103.0.5060.134 for forums and the CGOL home page for last 24 hours. Works just fine in wiki. Works fine on same PC in Edge everywhere. Works fine on my laptop.
I put in an experimental fix for this in build 721. Please hard refresh your browser and try another Viewer. Check it is on the right build by clicking "Help" and the build number will be displayed at the top.

Please let me know how you get on.

Victory! Brilliant! What was it and how did you figure it out?

Note: you have to hard refresh Forum, Home, etc. Wherever you run into the problem.

Posted: **August 1st, 2022, 2:37 pm**

Book wrote: ↑
August 1st, 2022, 1:57 pm
Victory! Brilliant! What was it and how did you figure it out?

I searched the Chrome bug reports for recent reported issues and found one that looked similar. The report had a test case and potential workaround so I tried that and it worked.

Posted: **August 1st, 2022, 2:47 pm**

rowett wrote: ↑
August 1st, 2022, 2:37 pm

Book wrote: ↑
August 1st, 2022, 1:57 pm
Victory! Brilliant! What was it and how did you figure it out?
I searched the Chrome bug reports for recent reported issues and found one that looked similar. The report had a test case and potential workaround so I tried that and it worked.

Bravo! I assume the plugin will need to be updated.

Posted: **August 4th, 2022, 1:14 am**

This pattern mistakenly says "Life ended at generation 3" when it doesn't actually end.

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x = 8, y = 16, rule = 1/4/2super
2T$2T6$2M.2M$2M.2M6$2N.2N.2N$2N.2N.2N!
[[ LABEL 6 0 16 "One block is a block" ]]
[[ LABEL 6 7 16 "Two blocks half a block" ]]
[[ LABEL 6 14 16 "Three blocks no block" ]]

Posted: **August 4th, 2022, 1:53 pm**

When I try to run B2-a/S12Super (Just Friends) soup, the glider appears to get "stuck" and then "jump" a bit leaving a gap in the trail. This soup produces two heading NW and NE, and for some reason only the NE glider experiences this glitch.

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x = 38, y = 44, rule = B2-a/S12Super
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A3.2A!

Posted: **August 4th, 2022, 5:51 pm**

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x = 326, y = 343, rule = B3/S23Super
21.4B83.4B$22.4B83.4B$23.4B83.4B$24.4B83.4B$25.4B83.4B$26.4B83.4B$27.
4B83.4B$28.4B83.4B$29.4B83.4B$30.4B83.4B$31.4B83.4B$32.4B83.4B$33.4B83.
4B$34.4B83.4B$35.4B83.4B$36.4B83.4B$37.4B83.4B$38.4B83.4B$39.4B83.4B$
40.4B83.4B$41.4B83.4B$42.4B83.4B$43.4B83.4B$44.4B83.4B$45.4B83.4B$46.
4B83.4B$47.4B83.4B$48.4B83.4B$49.4B83.4B$50.4B83.4B$51.4B83.4B$52.4B83.
4B$53.4B83.4B$54.4B83.4B$55.4B83.4B$56.4B83.4B$57.4B83.4B$58.4B83.4B$
59.4B83.4B$60.4B83.4B$61.4B83.4B$62.4B83.4B$15.18P30.4B30.90P$15.18P31.
4B29.90P$15.18P32.4B28.155P$15.18P33.4B59.123P$15.18P34.4B58.123P$15.
18P35.4B57.123P$15.18P36.4B56.123P$15.18P37.4B55.123P$15.18P38.4B54.123P
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50.123P$15.18P43.4B49.123P$7.26P44.4B48.123P$7.26P45.4B47.123P$7.26P46.
4B46.123P$7.26P47.4B45.123P$7.26P48.4B44.123P$15.34P33.4B43.123P$15.34P
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40P38.4B38.123P$9.40P39.4B37.123P$9.40P40.4B36.123P$9.40P41.4B35.123P
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132P$9.104P18.4B58.132P$9.104P19.4B57.132P$9.104P20.4B56.132P$9.104P21.
4B55.132P$9.104P22.4B54.132P$9.104P23.4B53.132P$9.104P24.4B52.132P$9.
104P25.4B51.132P$9.104P26.4B50.132P$9.104P27.4B49.132P$9.104P28.4B48.
132P$9.104P29.4B47.132P$9.104P30.4B46.132P$9.104P31.4B45.132P$9.104P32.
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104P36.4B40.132P$9.104P37.4B39.132P$9.104P38.4B38.132P$9.104P39.4B37.
132P$9.104P40.4B36.132P$9.104P41.4B35.132P$9.104P42.4B34.132P$9.104P43.
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136P37.4B39.100P$9.136P38.4B38.100P$9.136P39.4B37.100P$9.136P40.4B36.
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124.201P$124.201P$124.172P$124.172P$124.172P$124.172P$124.172P$124.172P
$124.172P$124.172P!

Posted: **August 4th, 2022, 6:02 pm**

wirehead wrote: ↑

August 4th, 2022, 1:53 pm

When I try to run B2-a/S12Super (Just Friends) soup, the glider appears to get "stuck" and then "jump" a bit leaving a gap in the trail. This soup produces two heading NW and NE, and for some reason only the NE glider experiences this glitch.

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x = 38, y = 44, rule = B2-a/S12Super
A.2A2.2A.5A.3A.2A.A3.3A.A2.A.3A$A.A.2A.2A.3A.A4.5A2.A.4A.2A.A$.A8.A.A
.A2.A.5A4.A.6A.A$A3.A.2A.A.A.3A.3A.2A.3A2.6A$A.5A.A2.2A4.2A2.A.2A.A.A
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A3.2A!

XD try pressing f6 (or maybe don't, it might cause a crash)

Posted: **August 4th, 2022, 11:43 pm**

Citation needed wrote: ↑
August 4th, 2022, 1:14 am
This pattern mistakenly says "Life ended at generation 3" when it doesn't actually end.

Fixed, thanks!

Posted: **August 4th, 2022, 11:44 pm**

wirehead wrote: ↑
August 4th, 2022, 1:53 pm
When I try to run B2-a/S12Super (Just Friends) soup, the glider appears to get "stuck" and then "jump" a bit leaving a gap in the trail. This soup produces two heading NW and NE, and for some reason only the NE glider experiences this glitch.

Fixed, thanks!

Posted: **August 24th, 2022, 1:42 am**

Press Enter (play), then R (reset), then Ctrl+Y (redo play to ...). It worked for me before, but does not work now.

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x = 36, y = 9, rule = B3/S23
27bo$26b4o$9b2o14b2obobo$bo7bo2bo11b3obo2bo2b2o$o3b2o7bo11b2obobo3b2o$
o5bo6bo12b4o$b5o7bo7bo5bo$9bo2bo9bo$9b2o9b3o!

Posted: **August 24th, 2022, 3:09 am**

confocaloid wrote: ↑
August 24th, 2022, 1:42 am
Press Enter (play), then R (reset), then Ctrl+Y (redo play to ...). It worked for me before, but does not work now.

Fixed, thanks.

Posted: **August 27th, 2022, 8:41 am**

I don't know when this happened (I think it's been at least a week), but I noticed it just now: the Safari page reload issue is no longer existent. The issue I was describing before is gone.

Posted: **September 23rd, 2022, 12:09 am**

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x = 13, y = 13, rule = LifeHistory
8.A$4.2C.A.A$4.2C4.A$3.A.A4.A$3.C2.2AC$3.C.A.CACA$2C.C.AC2.CA$2C.C.A.
2C2.2A$3.C.A$2.A2.C6.A$3C.2C4.C$5.C2A2C$9.2C!

turn on autofit. start the pattern playing, and then (WITH IT STILL RUNNING) do these steps:
1:ctrl+a
2:wait until spaceship is away
3:del
4:select a tiny area.
5:hold del or ctrl+a. (perhaps there are other keys to do it, but im not motivated)
it will zoom on the spaceship.

Posted: **September 30th, 2022, 3:20 pm**

lifeviewer isn't working for me. it displays "click to control", and it seems to run patterns, but i can't see anything but a black screen.

(i think there was a problem very similar to this a month or 2 ago that was caused by something related to a chrome update, if memory serves me right.)

Posted: **September 30th, 2022, 3:51 pm**

C28 wrote: ↑
September 30th, 2022, 3:20 pm
lifeviewer isn't working for me. it displays "click to control", and it seems to run patterns, but i can't see anything but a black screen.

See here for a workaround.

ConwayLife.com

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