For the Catagolue database, use biggiemac's script (see the link at the bottom of the message for the Golly 4.x / Python3 version).RamenGuy217 wrote: ↑February 10th, 2021, 12:58 pmIs there a tool I can use to look up a pattern to find any that match it in the database? I remember using one in the past, but I don't remember what it was.
Thread for basic questions
Re: Thread for basic questions
Glider Eaters
does anyone have this p25 beat ?
if no then I offer it as challenge
Thank You for Your Interest !
Cheers !
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x = 46, y = 33, rule = B3/S23
4bo30b2o$3bobo29bobo$3bobo25bo4bo3b2o$b3ob2o24bobo5bobo$o13bo17bobo5bo
$b3ob2o7b2o16bo2bo$3bob2o2b2o4b2o15bobo5bo$9b2o4b3o13bobo5bobo$3bob2o
2b2o4b2o7bobo4bo4bo3b2o$b3ob2o7b2o9b2o8bobo$o13bo10bo9b2o$b3ob2o$3bobo
$3bobo$4bo$32bo$33b2o$32b2o3b2ob2obo$38bobob2o$38bobo$39b2o$31b2o$31bo
2bob2o$33b2obo$34bobo5b2obo$33bo2b3o3bob2o$34b2o3bo$36b4o$36bo$34bobob
2o$34b2o2bo$38bobo$39b2o!
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Re: Glider Eaters
Challenge of what? beat??
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x = 15, y = 20, rule = B3/S23
3bo$4bob2ob2obo$2b3o2bobob2o$7bobo$8b2o$2o$o2bob2o$2b2obo$3bobo5b2obo$
2bo2b3o3bob2o$3b2o3bo$5b4o$5bo$2b2obob2o$2bo2bobo$3b2o4bo$5b5o$5bo$7bo
$6b2o!
Re: Glider Eaters
looks like p32JP21 wrote: ↑February 12th, 2021, 10:20 amChallenge of what? beat??Code: Select all
x = 15, y = 20, rule = B3/S23 3bo$4bob2ob2obo$2b3o2bobob2o$7bobo$8b2o$2o$o2bob2o$2b2obo$3bobo5b2obo$ 2bo2b3o3bob2o$3b2o3bo$5b4o$5bo$2b2obob2o$2bo2bobo$3b2o4bo$5b5o$5bo$7bo $6b2o!
ok so new challenge
take time eating
don't want indigestion !
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Re: Glider Eaters
"p25" and "p32" mean "pattern repeats every 25 ticks" or "every 32 ticks". It would be a little clearer to say "this eater takes 25 ticks to restabilize; are there any eaters that take longer?"
("Recovery time" is a little different, since this eater actually recovers enough to accept another glider in only 16 ticks.)
The 25tick recovery eater is the slowest one in Dean Hickerson's 1998 eater collection, but as JP21's response indicates, some slower ones have been found in the decades since then.
Of course it's very easy to engineer an eater that takes as long to recover as you might want, using something like a trombone slide and some kind of signal circuitry, along the lines of early stable reflectors but with the outputs capped off with (more) eaters. So this challenge needs to be specifically a "direct fizzle" ... or some terminology like that, I'm not quite sure what. Some of these extendedfizzle reactions aren't exactly "elementary"...
Re: Glider Eaters
no No NO !dvgrn wrote: ↑February 12th, 2021, 11:19 am"p25" and "p32" mean "pattern repeats every 25 ticks" or "every 32 ticks". It would be a little clearer to say "this eater takes 25 ticks to restabilize; are there any eaters that take longer?"
("Recovery time" is a little different, since this eater actually recovers enough to accept another glider in only 16 ticks.)
The 25tick recovery eater is the slowest one in Dean Hickerson's 1998 eater collection, but as JP21's response indicates, some slower ones have been found in the decades since then.
Of course it's very easy to engineer an eater that takes as long to recover as you might want, using something like a trombone slide and some kind of signal circuitry, along the lines of early stable reflectors but with the outputs capped off with (more) eaters. So this challenge needs to be specifically a "direct fizzle" ... or some terminology like that, I'm not quite sure what. Some of these extendedfizzle reactions aren't exactly "elementary"...
I will NOT send my Viro ( a,k,a, Glider ) down some crazy Conduit rathole !
this whole Question is going to devolve upon the issue of exactly what constitutes being eaten
versus being a transmutated signal ( destructive ? ) or even Heisenburped  farted
( it has been my experience that if a thing can be burped, it can be farted as well... )
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Re: Thread for basic questions
ok I am going to postulate that we could theoretically have a reaction ( quantum ) that comprises the entire Universe
the CGoL Qbit, if you will
so now we need to move this to the Max Planck CA thread
Thank You !
the CGoL Qbit, if you will
so now we need to move this to the Max Planck CA thread
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Re: Thread for basic questions
I didn't know about this 5cell pi predecessor until I found it by accident — what is it actually used in?
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x = 3, y = 4, rule = B3/S23
bo$3o2$bo!
User:HotdogPi/My discoveries
Periods discovered: 516,⑱,⑳G,㉑G,㉒㉔㉕,㉗㉛,㉜SG,㉟,㊱,㊳S,㊵㊷㊹㊺㊽㊿,54G,55G,56,57G,60,6266,70,72,74S,75,76S,80,84,90,96,100,102S,108,110,112,114G,116,117G,120,126G,128,138,147,154,156,180,196S,217,486,576
S: SKOP
G: gun
Periods discovered: 516,⑱,⑳G,㉑G,㉒㉔㉕,㉗㉛,㉜SG,㉟,㊱,㊳S,㊵㊷㊹㊺㊽㊿,54G,55G,56,57G,60,6266,70,72,74S,75,76S,80,84,90,96,100,102S,108,110,112,114G,116,117G,120,126G,128,138,147,154,156,180,196S,217,486,576
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Re: Thread for basic questions
The only pimaking conduits that produce it are BF22P and HF2P.hotdogPi wrote: ↑February 13th, 2021, 2:13 pmI didn't know about this 5cell pi predecessor until I found it by accident — what is it actually used in?
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x = 3, y = 4, rule = B3/S23 bo$3o2$bo!
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Re: Thread for basic questions
* Use getrows.py from the qfind repo[/code] (instructions included)
* Move or copy the "initrows.txt" file to your ntzfind folder.
* Run
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./ntzfind <args> e initrows.txt
The latest version of the 5S Project contains over 226,000 spaceships. There is also a GitHub mirror of the collection. Tabulated pages up to period 160 (out of date) are available on the LifeWiki.
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Re: Thread for basic questions
are there any r pentomino to b heptomino converters?
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x = 11, y = 15, rule = B3/S23
9bo$8bobo$8bobo$9bo8$b3o$b3o$obo$2o!
387P132
can we make a (13,4)c/41 spaceship?

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Re: Thread for basic questions
Yes.
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x = 110, y = 263, rule = LifeHistory
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Re: Thread for basic questions
Four questions:
1.What is BADS notation, how is it related to the B/S notation and where is it used?
2.What is the asymptotic growth rate of infinite distinct Corderships gun?
3.How to understand the existence of oddperiod oscillators (possibly including p1 still lives) in alternating rules, particularly B0 rules? There is some discussion:
(EDIT: sorry, M&C — the "sawtooth" above breaks at gen ~8.6e10)
1.What is BADS notation, how is it related to the B/S notation and where is it used?
2.What is the asymptotic growth rate of infinite distinct Corderships gun?
3.How to understand the existence of oddperiod oscillators (possibly including p1 still lives) in alternating rules, particularly B0 rules? There is some discussion:
4.How to construct a working (linear) sawtooth pattern based on the following reaction?Layz Boi wrote: ↑February 11th, 2021, 6:59 pmIt doesn't have to be exactly selfcomplementary. Here's a p3 in a mazelike rule (B012456/S5).creeperman7002 wrote: ↑February 11th, 2021, 10:51 amOddperiod oscillators can exist in B0 rules, as long as the rule is selfcomplementary. Here is a p3 in B0124/S01235:HelicopterCat3 wrote: ↑February 11th, 2021, 10:29 amSo technically odd periods can't exist in B0 rules at all?Code: Select all
x = 14, y = 10, rule = B0124/S01235 4bo4bo$4bo4bo$2b4o2b4o$b5o2b5o$14o$14o$b5o2b5o$2b4o2b4o$4bo4bo$4bo4bo!
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x = 16, y = 16, rule = B012456/S5 5bob2obo$5b6o$2b2obob2obob2o$2b2obo4bob2o$5bob2obo$5o2b2o2b5o$bo12bo$ 3ob2o4b2ob3o$3ob2o4b2ob3o$bo12bo$5o2b2o2b5o$5bob2obo$2b2obo4bob2o$2b2o bob2obob2o$5b6o$5bob2obo!
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x = 104, y = 105, rule = B3jknr4ity5ijk6i8/S23a4city6c7c
54bo$53bobo$54bo10$bo24bo$obo12bo9bobo$bo12bobo9bo26bo$15b2o35bobo$52b
2o$18b2o29bo$17b3o19bo8b3o$18b2o18bobo7b3o$39bo5$54bo$53bobo$19bo34bo$
18bobo$19bo9$48bo$47bobo$13bo34bo$12bobo$13bo5$28bo$17b3o7bobo18b2o$
17b3o8bo19b3o$18bo29b2o29bo9bo$14b2o62bobo8bo$13bobo35b2o26bo8b4o$14bo
26bo9bobo37b2o$40bobo9bo35bobob2o$41bo50bo$66bo17b3o2b3o$58bo6bobo15bo
2bo$57bobo6bo16bo3bo$58bo24b2o2b2o$85bo3bo8b3o$86b3o9bobo$86b3o8bo2bo$
96b2o3b3o$96b2o5bo$13bo81bobobo2b2o$12bobo64b3o12b2o2bo$13bo65bobo6b3o
2b3o2b2o2bo$79b3o12b2o2bo$95bobobo2b2o$96b2o5bo$96b2o3b3o$97bo2bo$98bo
bo$98b3o2$95b2o$95b3o$95b2o2$98b3o$98bobo$97bo2bo$96b2o3b3o$96b2o5bo$
95bobobo2b2o$79b3o12b2o2bo$79bobo6b3o2b3o2b2o2bo$79b3o12b2o2bo$95bobob
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83bo3bo$83bo2bo$84b3o2b3o$92bo$88bobob2o$91b2o$88b4o$89bo$89bo!
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Why do most 2state OCA rules tend to get a diminishing span of interest and go into oblivion, like lost civilizations leaving little records for their beauty and power?
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Re: Thread for basic questions
It looks like that pattern is already a sawtooth; the spaceship merely goes off the screen before that behavior becomes apparent.
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Re: Thread for basic questions
It actually isn't a sawtooth. The gun is destroyed at gen 86,026,439,896 due to improper timing.
B2n3jn/S1c23y is an interesting rule. It has a replicator, a fake glider, an OMOS and SMOS, a wide variety of oscillators, and some signals. Also this rule is omniperiodic.
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Re: Thread for basic questions
Thank you. This seems to be the only timing that destroys the gun:creeperman7002 wrote: ↑February 15th, 2021, 12:34 pmIt actually isn't a sawtooth. The gun is destroyed at gen 86,026,439,896 due to improper timing.
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x = 184, y = 68, rule = B3jknr4ity5ijk6i8/S23a4city6c7c
54bo$53bobo$54bo5$50bo$50bo$53b3o$41b2o11b2o$40b2o$bo7b2o15bo13bo$obo
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2o$39bo5b2o$14b4o20bobo4b2o$15bobo21bo$15b2ob2o$18b2o3$10bo2bo40bo$10b
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Re: Thread for basic questions
thanks!MathAndCode wrote: ↑February 14th, 2021, 5:10 pmYes.Code: Select all
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x = 11, y = 15, rule = B3/S23
9bo$8bobo$8bobo$9bo8$b3o$b3o$obo$2o!
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Re: Thread for basic questions
You're welcome. In general, you can check the Elementary Conduits Collection.
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Re: Thread for basic questions
Terminology question: Normally, the rotor contains all cells that are moving, while the stator contains all cells that aren't. What happens when P2 oscillating sections are required for stabilization but aren't part of the main oscillating section, such as the P22 and P26 below? Are the P2 sections part of the rotor or stator?
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x = 83, y = 23, rule = B3/S23
12b2o5b2o$7b2o3bo7bo3b2o$8bo4bo5bo4bo$5b2obob3obo3bob3obob2o30b2o13b2o
$8bobo3bo3bo3bobo29b2obo2bob2o5b2obo2bob2o$6bobo5bobobo5bobo26bobob3o
3bo5bo3b3obobo$7bobo2b2obobob2o2bobo27bobo4b2o9b2o4bobo$8bo3bo2bobo2bo
3bo27b2obob2obob4ob4obob2obob2o$b2ob2o8b2ob2o8b2ob2o18bo2bobo2bo3bo2bo
bo2bo3b2obo4bo$2bobo23bobo19b3ob2o4bo11bo3b2o2b3o$2bobo6bo9bo6bobo22bo
2bo2b3o9b4obo2bo$b2ob2o3b2ob2o5b2ob2o3b2ob2o18b2obo2b3o8b2o7bob2ob2o$
2bobo6bo9bo6bobo20bobo3bobo6bobo4bo3bobobo$2bobo23bobo20bobob2obobo4b
3o4bobob2obobo$b2ob2o8b2ob2o8b2ob2o18b2obo2bo2bo4b3o6bo5bob2o$8bo3bo2b
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o3b2o$12b2o5b2o!
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Periods discovered: 516,⑱,⑳G,㉑G,㉒㉔㉕,㉗㉛,㉜SG,㉟,㊱,㊳S,㊵㊷㊹㊺㊽㊿,54G,55G,56,57G,60,6266,70,72,74S,75,76S,80,84,90,96,100,102S,108,110,112,114G,116,117G,120,126G,128,138,147,154,156,180,196S,217,486,576
S: SKOP
G: gun
Periods discovered: 516,⑱,⑳G,㉑G,㉒㉔㉕,㉗㉛,㉜SG,㉟,㊱,㊳S,㊵㊷㊹㊺㊽㊿,54G,55G,56,57G,60,6266,70,72,74S,75,76S,80,84,90,96,100,102S,108,110,112,114G,116,117G,120,126G,128,138,147,154,156,180,196S,217,486,576
S: SKOP
G: gun
Re: Thread for basic questions
They are part of the rotor, of course.hotdogPi wrote: ↑February 16th, 2021, 9:36 amWhat happens when P2 oscillating sections are required for stabilization but aren't part of the main oscillating section, such as the P22 and P26 below? Are the P2 sections part of the rotor or stator?
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x = 83, y = 23, rule = B3/S23 12b2o5b2o$7b2o3bo7bo3b2o$8bo4bo5bo4bo$5b2obob3obo3bob3obob2o30b2o13b2o $8bobo3bo3bo3bobo29b2obo2bob2o5b2obo2bob2o$6bobo5bobobo5bobo26bobob3o 3bo5bo3b3obobo$7bobo2b2obobob2o2bobo27bobo4b2o9b2o4bobo$8bo3bo2bobo2bo 3bo27b2obob2obob4ob4obob2obob2o$b2ob2o8b2ob2o8b2ob2o18bo2bobo2bo3bo2bo bo2bo3b2obo4bo$2bobo23bobo19b3ob2o4bo11bo3b2o2b3o$2bobo6bo9bo6bobo22bo 2bo2b3o9b4obo2bo$b2ob2o3b2ob2o5b2ob2o3b2ob2o18b2obo2b3o8b2o7bob2ob2o$ 2bobo6bo9bo6bobo20bobo3bobo6bobo4bo3bobobo$2bobo23bobo20bobob2obobo4b 3o4bobob2obobo$b2ob2o8b2ob2o8b2ob2o18b2obo2bo2bo4b3o6bo5bob2o$8bo3bo2b obo2bo3bo27b2ob2o8b3o9b3o$7bobo2b2obobob2o2bobo26bo3b2o8bobo6b2obo$6bo bo5bobobo5bobo24b2obo3bo8b2o5bo3bob2o$8bobo3bo3bo3bobo26bo2b2ob2o15b2o b2o2bo$5b2obob3obo3bob3obob2o25bo25bo$8bo4bo5bo4bo27b2o25b2o$7b2o3bo7b o3b2o$12b2o5b2o!

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Re: Thread for basic questions
Ok sorry for asking this again. (At least I know more this time.) I'm having trouble compiling. Yesterday I downloaded Microsoft Visual C++ 2008 Express Edition and followed this tutorial. I tried compiling ofind, and I got this:
Is this a simple programming error or something else?
I tried compiling dr too and got this:
Did I not select it properly? It's in a zip file, if that helps in any way.
Also, I know that the LifeWIki compiling tutorial uses Cygwin, but AFAIK that tutorial is outdated, so I didn't use it.
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c:\ofind>cl ofind.c
Microsoft (R) 32bit C/C++ Optimizing Compiler Version 15.00.30729.01 for 80x86
Copyright (C) Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
ofind.c
Microsoft (R) Incremental Linker Version 9.00.30729.01
Copyright (C) Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
/out:ofind.exe
ofind.obj
ofind.obj : error LNK2019: unresolved external symbol _random referenced in function _initHash
ofind.exe : fatal error LNK1120: 1 unresolved externals
I tried compiling dr too and got this:
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Setting environment for using Microsoft Visual Studio 2008 x86 tools.
C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Visual Studio 9.0\VC>cd c:\
c:\>cd c:\dr
c:\dr>dir
Volume in drive C has no label.
Volume Serial Number is 682F393C
Directory of c:\dr
02/16/2021 07:43 PM <DIR> .
02/16/2021 07:43 PM <DIR> ..
0 File(s) 0 bytes
2 Dir(s) 269,769,011,200 bytes free
c:\dr>cl dr.c
Microsoft (R) 32bit C/C++ Optimizing Compiler Version 15.00.30729.01 for 80x86
Copyright (C) Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
dr.c
c1 : fatal error C1083: Cannot open source file: 'dr.c': No such file or directory
Also, I know that the LifeWIki compiling tutorial uses Cygwin, but AFAIK that tutorial is outdated, so I didn't use it.
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Re: Thread for basic questions
WHY WOULD YOU WANT THAT FOR COMPILING ANYWAYS? Plain gcc is good.Schiaparelliorbust wrote: ↑February 17th, 2021, 3:17 amYesterday I downloaded Microsoft Visual C++ 2008 Express Edition

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Re: Thread for basic questions
I'll try that, thanks.
I also got mingw64, but couldn't figure out how to use it. All tutorials differed in the a step from what I saw.calcyman wrote: You compile them with a dedicated C/C++ compiler, like Microsoft Visual C++ 2008 Express Edition (downloadable for free).
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Re: Thread for basic questions
what is salt?(talking about CA)
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