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Re: Create your own terminology

Post by Hdjensofjfnen » January 6th, 2020, 11:49 pm

Clean puffer
Let the period of the main engine of a puffer be P. Then a puffer is clean if and only if its overall period is equal to P.

Dirty puffer
A puffer is dirty if and only if its overall period is a multiple of P due to the puffer's exhaust.

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x = 5, y = 9, rule = B3-jqr/S01c2-in3
3bo$4bo$o2bo$2o2$2o$o2bo$4bo$3bo!

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x = 7, y = 5, rule = B3/S2-i3-y4i
4b3o$6bo$o3b3o$2o$bo!

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Re: Create your own terminology

Post by toroidalet » January 7th, 2020, 1:54 am

So this puffer is clean? (run in Golly for at least 100 thousand generations to see the puffer-ness)

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x = 47, y = 24, rule = B2i3/S23-ce5ry6i
3o$o2bo$b3o19$43b3o$43bo2bo$44b3o!
Also, with this example, it's sort of hard to tell where the engine is. Similarly, what would be the engine of a caterpillar, an HBK, or a Gemini?
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Re: Create your own terminology

Post by Kazyan » January 14th, 2020, 12:23 am

"Don't like thing.": A joking phrase from the Discord server, to describe the sense that a Life pattern doesn't look like a Life pattern--it contradicts intuition. This is a subjective term, so no pattern is an objective "Don't like thing", but examples may include high-period oscillators and still lifes with unusual cell arrangements.
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Re: Create your own terminology

Post by Entity Valkyrie 2 » February 23rd, 2020, 4:01 am

toroidalet wrote:
January 7th, 2020, 1:54 am
So this puffer is clean? (run in Golly for at least 100 thousand generations to see the puffer-ness)

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x = 47, y = 24, rule = B2i3/S23-ce5ry6i
3o$o2bo$b3o19$43b3o$43bo2bo$44b3o!
Also, with this example, it's sort of hard to tell where the engine is. Similarly, what would be the engine of a caterpillar, an HBK, or a Gemini?
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Post by Entity Valkyrie 2 » February 23rd, 2020, 4:05 am

I think y'all already know what Athenic and Thessalonic means.
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Re: Create your own terminology

Post by dvgrn » February 23rd, 2020, 11:48 am

Entity Valkyrie 2 wrote:
February 23rd, 2020, 4:05 am
I think y'all already know what Athenic and Thessalonic means.
No, I haven't been able to figure it out. I could make vague guesses that might happen to be right, but there aren't enough specific examples to rule out other possibilities, and no definitions anywhere that I can find.

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Re: Create your own terminology

Post by Hunting » March 23rd, 2020, 8:19 pm

Magic (in the narrower definition): Combining multiple engines to create spaceships, puffers, rakes or guns.

Magical person: A person who is able to perform Magic.

Corderizing/AbhpzTaing: The activity of combining multiple engines.
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Re: Create your own terminology

Post by A for awesome » April 24th, 2020, 12:21 pm

Laminar: a descriptor for a wickstretcher (or growing ship or wick ship) stretching a wick with both spatial and temporal period 1 (i.e. one or more line wicks of arbitrary thickness).

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x = 4, y = 4, rule = B2ce3aj/S1e2-cn3a4aqr5i
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Re: Create your own terminology

Post by muzik » May 30th, 2020, 1:21 pm

Paragonal spaceship: a spaceship in a 3D or higher CA with displacement (x,x,x)

Metagonal spaceship: a spaceship in a 4D or higher CA with displacement (x,x,x,x)
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Re: Create your own terminology

Post by GUYTU6J » May 30th, 2020, 10:04 pm

muzik wrote:
May 30th, 2020, 1:21 pm
Paragonal spaceship: a spaceship in a 3D or higher CA with displacement (x,x,x)

Metagonal spaceship: a spaceship in a 4D or higher CA with displacement (x,x,x,x)
Then how to call "a spaceship in a 5D or higher CA with displacement (x,x,x,x,x)"? I don't see how the concept of orthogonal (as opposed to diagonal etc) is related to the prefix "ortho-" (as opposed to meta- and para- in arene chemistry).
I would prefer Moosey's suggestion because it is more generalizable:
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muzik wrote:For a 3D CA on a cubic honeycomb, would a spaceship with displacement (x,x,x) be described as diagonal, or would this apply to (x,x,0)?
I believe that's triagonal.
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Re: Create your own terminology

Post by ColorfulGalaxy » February 11th, 2021, 7:04 am

"Skywriter" - a suggested name for patterns like the one on the top of the Golly page. They can be puffers, guns, or rakes. (Sorry, I don't know how to actually define this)
"Metronome" - a suggested name for periodic patterns with adjustable period. This name might be obscure.

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x = 9, y = 9, rule = LifeColorful
6E.2B$6E.2B$7.2B$2D5.2B$2D5.2B$2D5.2B$2D$2D.6C$2D.6C!
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Re: Create your own terminology

Post by GUYTU6J » February 11th, 2021, 9:19 am

ColorfulGalaxy wrote:
February 11th, 2021, 7:04 am
"Skywriter" - a suggested name for patterns like the one on the top of the Golly page. ...
That's golly-ticker.rle, and therefore no new name invention is needed. Have you been familiar with all of the golly patterns?
"Metronome" - a suggested name for periodic patterns with adjustable period. This name might be obscure.
Like adjustable glider loops or spaceships/rakes with adjustable period?
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Re: Create your own terminology

Post by wwei47 » February 22nd, 2021, 11:15 pm

NCCA: Naive Cleanup Cost Addition: A way of estimating the cost of cleaning up a constellation by adding up the individual cleanup costs of each subpattern in the constellation.

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Re: Create your own terminology

Post by hotdogPi » March 3rd, 2021, 9:01 am

If we find a smaller snark and/or one with a lower repeat time, it should be called the baby snark (doo doo doo doo doo doo).

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Post by dvgrn » March 3rd, 2021, 9:25 am

hotdogPi wrote:
March 3rd, 2021, 9:01 am
If we find a smaller snark and/or one with a lower repeat time, it should be called the baby snark (doo doo doo doo doo doo).
Ha. Will the Silver reflector then become "Grandpa Snark"?

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Re: Create your own terminology

Post by MathAndCode » March 3rd, 2021, 6:37 pm

Hunting wrote:
March 23rd, 2020, 8:19 pm
Corderizing/AbhpzTaing: The activity of combining multiple engines.
I don't think that it should be called Corderizing because Charles Corderman did not arrange switch engines so that their debris cancels out. Corderships are instead called Corderships because the unstable puffer that serves as their engine was discovered by Charles Corderman. Unless that puffer is the switch engine, the act of arranging multiple copies of a puffer (whether stable or unstable) so that their debris cancels out should be named after the first person to arrange puffer engines so that their debris cancels out, i.e. it should be called Hickerizing, not Corderizing.
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Re: Create your own terminology

Post by bubblegum » March 3rd, 2021, 6:59 pm

The Herschel bears resemblance to the symbol of Saturn.
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Re: Create your own terminology

Post by Layz Boi » March 3rd, 2021, 7:09 pm

MathAndCode wrote:
March 3rd, 2021, 6:37 pm
Hunting wrote:
March 23rd, 2020, 8:19 pm
Corderizing/AbhpzTaing: The activity of combining multiple engines.
I don't think that it should be called Corderizing because Charles Corderman did not arrange switch engines so that their debris cancels out. Corderships are instead called Corderships because the unstable puffer that serves as their engine was discovered by Charles Corderman. Unless that puffer is the switch engine, the act of arranging multiple copies of a puffer (whether stable or unstable) so that their debris cancels out should be named after the first person to arrange puffer engines so that their debris cancels out, i.e. it should be called Hickerizing, not Corderizing.
I didn't know that! :o Neat! I just assumed they were called corderships because the uncorderized puffers/rakes would leave behind a trail of objects resembling a cord. And corderships usually involve terminating that 'cord' with more of the same puffer/rake.

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Re: Create your own terminology

Post by MathAndCode » March 3rd, 2021, 9:07 pm

bubblegum wrote:
March 3rd, 2021, 6:59 pm
The Herschel bears resemblance to the symbol of Saturn.
That's mentioned on the wiki page.
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Re: Create your own terminology

Post by bubblegum » March 3rd, 2021, 9:32 pm

MathAndCode wrote:
March 3rd, 2021, 9:07 pm
That's mentioned on the wiki page.
so did you get my point or not
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Re: Create your own terminology

Post by MathAndCode » March 3rd, 2021, 9:34 pm

bubblegum wrote:
March 3rd, 2021, 9:32 pm
so did you get my point or not
I didn't get it at first, but I get it now.
I have reduced the cost of universal construction to seventeen gliders and probably to sixteen. All that remains is for the universal operations to be found.

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Re: Create your own terminology

Post by otismo » March 3rd, 2021, 11:00 pm

a vertical hive looks like a hive

a horizontal hive looks like an egg

the numeral eight represents vertical

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23bo$23bobo$23b2o9$2b3o2$o5bo$o5bo$o5bo2$2b3o5b2o$10b2o3$2b2o$2b2o10$
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Re: Create your own terminology

Post by Hunting » March 4th, 2021, 3:13 am

MathAndCode wrote:
March 3rd, 2021, 6:37 pm
Hunting wrote:
March 23rd, 2020, 8:19 pm
Corderizing/AbhpzTaing: The activity of combining multiple engines.
I don't think that it should be called Corderizing because Charles Corderman did not arrange switch engines so that their debris cancels out. Corderships are instead called Corderships because the unstable puffer that serves as their engine was discovered by Charles Corderman. Unless that puffer is the switch engine, the act of arranging multiple copies of a puffer (whether stable or unstable) so that their debris cancels out should be named after the first person to arrange puffer engines so that their debris cancels out, i.e. it should be called Hickerizing, not Corderizing.
Can you stop nitpicking? It's the convention. Note I said Corderizing, not Cordermanning, that's the act of making a cordership (-like object).
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Re: Create your own terminology

Post by Macbi » March 4th, 2021, 7:20 am

Borrowing from the Rubik's Cube community, we could use the term God's Number to refer to the the number of gliders needed to synthesise any synthesisable still life. In other words the number bounded by 4 ≤ G < 18 from the exhaustive enumeration of all 3G collisions and the RCT.

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