Catagolue Oddities

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Re: Catagolue Oddities

Post by yujh » April 16th, 2021, 8:28 pm

ColorfulGabrielsp138 wrote:
April 16th, 2021, 8:25 pm
calcyman wrote:
March 20th, 2021, 5:18 pm
MathAndCode wrote:
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Why does Catagolue list xq4_163zzzzzzzzzzzyzym48e as requiring seven gliders?
Someone must have submitted an RLE containing this (possibly a Mark Niemiec mosaic of alternative syntheses for a glider) and it was misinterpreted as a synthesis for a pair of gliders:

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x = 42, y = 65, rule = B3/S23
35bobo$36b2o$36bo2$39bo$38bo2bo$38bo2bo$40bo49$o$b2o$2o2$7b2o$7bobo$2b
2o3bo$bobo$3bo!
I can't log in on Catagolue due to Google.
Hey, why quoting all this?
I think hmm another way to login is cool but Google is good. You don't necessarily need to login to uplode hauls or even spams!

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Re: Catagolue Oddities

Post by ColorfulGabrielsp138 » April 16th, 2021, 8:49 pm

yujh wrote:
April 16th, 2021, 8:28 pm
ColorfulGabrielsp138 wrote:
April 16th, 2021, 8:25 pm
I can't log in on Catagolue due to Google.
Hey, why quoting all this?
I think hmm another way to login is cool but Google is good. You don't necessarily need to login to uplode hauls or even spams!
How?

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x = 21, y = 21, rule = LifeColorful
11.E$10.3E$10.E.2E$13.E4$2.2B$.2B$2B$.2B15.2D$19.2D$18.2D$17.2D4$7.C$
7.2C.C$8.3C$9.C!

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Re: Catagolue Oddities

Post by yujh » April 16th, 2021, 8:50 pm

ColorfulGabrielsp138 wrote:
April 16th, 2021, 8:49 pm
yujh wrote:
April 16th, 2021, 8:28 pm
ColorfulGabrielsp138 wrote:
April 16th, 2021, 8:25 pm
I can't log in on Catagolue due to Google.
Hey, why quoting all this?
I think hmm another way to login is cool but Google is good. You don't necessarily need to login to uplode hauls or even spams!
How?
read lifewiki/tutorials

Edit: pls delete or remove these posts when done! :)

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Re: Catagolue Oddities

Post by ColorfulGabrielsp138 » April 16th, 2021, 8:58 pm

yujh wrote:
April 16th, 2021, 8:50 pm
ColorfulGabrielsp138 wrote:
April 16th, 2021, 8:49 pm
yujh wrote:
April 16th, 2021, 8:28 pm


Hey, why quoting all this?
I think hmm another way to login is cool but Google is good. You don't necessarily need to login to uplode hauls or even spams!
How?
read lifewiki/tutorials

Edit: pls delete or remove these posts when done! :)
I want to have a username there
EDIT: I also want to make a new symmetry like this

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#C 
x = 14, y = 17, rule = Conway's Life
6b2ob2o$6b2ob2o$b2o9b2o$b2o4b2o3b2o$7b2o$2ob2o5b2o$2ob2o5b2o$7b2o$4b2o
b2o3b2o$2o2b2o6b2o$2o7b2o$3b2o4b2o$3b2ob2o$2o4b2o3b2o$2o9b2o$3b2o3b2o
$3b2o3b2o!

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x = 21, y = 21, rule = LifeColorful
11.E$10.3E$10.E.2E$13.E4$2.2B$.2B$2B$.2B15.2D$19.2D$18.2D$17.2D4$7.C$
7.2C.C$8.3C$9.C!

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Re: Catagolue Oddities

Post by yujh » April 16th, 2021, 9:02 pm

ColorfulGabrielsp138 wrote:
April 16th, 2021, 8:58 pm
yujh wrote:
April 16th, 2021, 8:50 pm
ColorfulGabrielsp138 wrote:
April 16th, 2021, 8:49 pm

How?
read lifewiki/tutorials

Edit: pls delete or remove these posts when done! :)
I want to have a username there
EDIT: I also want to make a new symmetry like this

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#C 
x = 14, y = 17, rule = Conway's Life
6b2ob2o$6b2ob2o$b2o9b2o$b2o4b2o3b2o$7b2o$2ob2o5b2o$2ob2o5b2o$7b2o$4b2o
b2o3b2o$2o2b2o6b2o$2o7b2o$3b2o4b2o$3b2ob2o$2o4b2o3b2o$2o9b2o$3b2o3b2o
$3b2o3b2o!
Just call others to create a payosha256 key for you(since I can't)
There is that sym.

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Re: Catagolue Oddities

Post by ColorfulGabrielsp138 » April 16th, 2021, 9:07 pm

yujh wrote:
April 16th, 2021, 9:02 pm
ColorfulGabrielsp138 wrote:
April 16th, 2021, 8:58 pm
yujh wrote:
April 16th, 2021, 8:50 pm


read lifewiki/tutorials

Edit: pls delete or remove these posts when done! :)
I want to have a username there
EDIT: I also want to make a new symmetry like this

Code: Select all

#C 
x = 14, y = 17, rule = Conway's Life
6b2ob2o$6b2ob2o$b2o9b2o$b2o4b2o3b2o$7b2o$2ob2o5b2o$2ob2o5b2o$7b2o$4b2o
b2o3b2o$2o2b2o6b2o$2o7b2o$3b2o4b2o$3b2ob2o$2o4b2o3b2o$2o9b2o$3b2o3b2o
$3b2o3b2o!
Just call others to create a payosha256 key for you(since I can't)
There is that sym.
There is already an inflated symmetry but there doesn't seem to be a "blockspam" symmetry

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x = 21, y = 21, rule = LifeColorful
11.E$10.3E$10.E.2E$13.E4$2.2B$.2B$2B$.2B15.2D$19.2D$18.2D$17.2D4$7.C$
7.2C.C$8.3C$9.C!

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Re: Catagolue Oddities

Post by yujh » April 16th, 2021, 9:12 pm

ColorfulGabrielsp138 wrote:
April 16th, 2021, 9:07 pm
yujh wrote:
April 16th, 2021, 9:02 pm
ColorfulGabrielsp138 wrote:
April 16th, 2021, 8:58 pm


I want to have a username there
EDIT: I also want to make a new symmetry like this

Code: Select all

#C 
x = 14, y = 17, rule = Conway's Life
6b2ob2o$6b2ob2o$b2o9b2o$b2o4b2o3b2o$7b2o$2ob2o5b2o$2ob2o5b2o$7b2o$4b2o
b2o3b2o$2o2b2o6b2o$2o7b2o$3b2o4b2o$3b2ob2o$2o4b2o3b2o$2o9b2o$3b2o3b2o
$3b2o3b2o!
Just call others to create a payosha256 key for you(since I can't)
There is that sym.
There is already an inflated symmetry but there doesn't seem to be a "blockspam" symmetry
Dvgrn, pls tidy up the thread after we're done!

https://catagolue.hatsya.com/census/b3s ... test_stdin

@colorfulgalaxy here

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Re: Catagolue Oddities

Post by muzik » April 22nd, 2021, 2:06 pm

Something weird is going on here, not sure if the viewer is at fault or if it's catagolue:
https://catagolue.appspot.com/object/xp ... s/g17b3s23

EDIT: definitely seems to be a Catagolue thing as the RLE is the thing that's flawed:

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x = 9, y = 9, rule = S23/B3/17
3.pR.qJ$2.pNpFqFqBA$.pJ3pF2qB2A$.pFRJRpNpR2A$pB2RFpRAqB2A$.V2.J2A$J$.F$2.B!

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x = 9, y = 9, rule = 23/3/17
3.pR.qJ$2.pNpFqFqBA$.pJ3pF2qB2A$.pFRJRpNpR2A$pB2RFpRAqB2A$.V2.J2A$J$.F$2.B!
EDIT2: okay, there seems to be State 58 cells in here for some reason:

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x = 9, y = 9, rule = 23/3/58
3.pR.qJ$2.pNpFqFqBA$.pJ3pF2qB2A$.pFRJRpNpR2A$pB2RFpRAqB2A$.V2.J2A$J$.F$2.B!

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x = 9, y = 9, rule = 23/3/59
3.pR.qJ$2.pNpFqFqBA$.pJ3pF2qB2A$.pFRJRpNpR2A$pB2RFpRAqB2A$.V2.J2A$J$.F$2.B!

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Re: Catagolue Oddities

Post by calcyman » April 22nd, 2021, 4:44 pm

muzik wrote:
April 22nd, 2021, 2:06 pm
Something weird is going on here, not sure if the viewer is at fault or if it's catagolue:
https://catagolue.appspot.com/object/xp ... s/g17b3s23
Fixed in commit https://gitlab.com/apgoucher/catagolue/ ... 2495e5584f
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Re: Catagolue Oddities

Post by muzik » April 23rd, 2021, 6:08 am

Is it just me or are the images significantly offset to the side here?
https://catagolue.appspot.com/census/b2s34h/D12/xp10

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Re: Catagolue Oddities

Post by calcyman » April 23rd, 2021, 11:37 am

muzik wrote:
April 23rd, 2021, 6:08 am
Is it just me or are the images significantly offset to the side here?
https://catagolue.appspot.com/census/b2s34h/D12/xp10
Yes, it's because it uses the pattern's bounding box, which then becomes a parallelogram when you apply the affine transformation (to make the hexagonal cells regular), and that parallelogram is then used to determine the image's bounding box.
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Re: Catagolue Oddities

Post by cgoler2 » April 23rd, 2021, 12:12 pm

Why are there two p2s called "beacon on something" and ":D"?

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Re: Catagolue Oddities

Post by bubblegum » April 23rd, 2021, 12:51 pm

cgoler2 wrote:
April 23rd, 2021, 12:12 pm
Why are there two p2s called "beacon on something" and ":D"?
"something" was imported from an older census, and ":D" was Calcyman's idea of a joke.
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Re: Catagolue Oddities

Post by calcyman » April 23rd, 2021, 3:30 pm

bubblegum wrote:
April 23rd, 2021, 12:51 pm
cgoler2 wrote:
April 23rd, 2021, 12:12 pm
Why are there two p2s called "beacon on something" and ":D"?
"something" was imported from an older census, and ":D" was Calcyman's idea of a joke.
I don't think it was my idea; I copied it from an anonymous comment someone made on the page.
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Re: Catagolue Oddities

Post by bubblegum » April 23rd, 2021, 3:53 pm

Indeed. xp2_rhewehv0rr

:D
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Re: Catagolue Oddities

Post by MathAndCode » April 24th, 2021, 8:01 pm

xs19_0br0f96z321's name appears to have a typo. Dock should be replaced with block.
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Re: Catagolue Oddities

Post by Ian07 » May 1st, 2021, 9:05 pm

Someone apparently added some messless objects to the C1 census that don't meet the 500 threshold: https://catagolue.hatsya.com/census/b3s23/C1/messless

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Re: Catagolue Oddities

Post by yujh » May 1st, 2021, 9:08 pm

Ian07 wrote:
May 1st, 2021, 9:05 pm
Someone apparently added some messless objects to the C1 census that don't meet the 500 threshold: https://catagolue.hatsya.com/census/b3s23/C1/messless
I can’t see that, though
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Re: Catagolue Oddities

Post by ColorfulGabrielsp138 » May 1st, 2021, 9:11 pm

Also, Catagolue lists "xkcd" jokes patterns: xkcd_48jsj8gzwe9e

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x = 21, y = 21, rule = LifeColorful
11.E$10.3E$10.E.2E$13.E4$2.2B$.2B$2B$.2B15.2D$19.2D$18.2D$17.2D4$7.C$
7.2C.C$8.3C$9.C!

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Re: Catagolue Oddities

Post by Ian07 » May 2nd, 2021, 10:21 am

yujh wrote:
May 1st, 2021, 9:08 pm
I can’t see that, though
Scroll down.

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Re: Catagolue Oddities

Post by calcyman » May 3rd, 2021, 6:05 am

Ian07 wrote:
May 1st, 2021, 9:05 pm
Someone apparently added some messless objects to the C1 census that don't meet the 500 threshold: https://catagolue.hatsya.com/census/b3s23/C1/messless
The attribute logs exist:

https://catagolue.hatsya.com/attribute/messless_4h
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Re: Catagolue Oddities

Post by yujh » May 3rd, 2021, 7:00 am

calcyman wrote:
May 3rd, 2021, 6:05 am
Ian07 wrote:
May 1st, 2021, 9:05 pm
Someone apparently added some messless objects to the C1 census that don't meet the 500 threshold: https://catagolue.hatsya.com/census/b3s23/C1/messless
The attribute logs exist:

https://catagolue.hatsya.com/attribute/messless_4h
So that’s Dylan messing around—have you guys told him about this in the discord server?

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Re: Catagolue Oddities

Post by MathAndCode » May 8th, 2021, 8:24 pm

https://catagolue.hatsya.com/census/b3s ... -costs/xs0
Why does a vacuum cost three gliders?
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Re: Catagolue Oddities

Post by bubblegum » May 8th, 2021, 10:47 pm

MathAndCode wrote:
May 8th, 2021, 8:24 pm
Why does a vacuum cost three gliders?
Why would someone bother to optimally synthesise literal nothing?
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Re: Catagolue Oddities

Post by wwei47 » May 9th, 2021, 12:40 am

bubblegum wrote:
May 8th, 2021, 10:47 pm
Why would someone bother to optimally synthesise literal nothing?
I guess it's synthesis for the sake of synthesis.

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x = 19, y = 17, rule = Symbiosis
11.A$9.2A.A$3.A$2.3A3.A6.A$.A2.A3.2A5.A$A7.A.3A2.2A$A.3A4.A.4A.3A$.2A
2.B3.A4.A$B.B8.2A$13.A$12.2A$7.B3.2A4.2B$8.2A.A5.A$10.A3.A$9.2AB.B$8.
A2.2B4.B$8.B9.A!

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