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### Re: Thread for basic questions

ihatecorderships wrote:
May 12th, 2021, 8:47 am
Is it ok that I make posts this long?
Sure -- when questions need answering, do whatever you have to do to answer them!

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### Re: Thread for basic questions

What is the highest possible oscillator period in a 50x-100 torus? Trivial oscillators are fair game. Here's a P502320 I made a while ago:

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``````x = 96, y = 48, rule = B3/S23:T100,50
25b2o55b2o\$27bo55bo\$14b2o12bo52bo5b2o\$14b2o4bo7bo8b2o42b2o5bo\$3b2o6b2o
5b2o8bo8b2o49bob2o\$3b2o5b3o5bo2b2o4bo45bo7b2o2b2obo2bo\$11b2o6b5ob2o47b
o6b2o3bob2o\$14b2o4bo51b3o11bo\$14b2o69b2o2\$28bo7b3ob3o48b2o\$29bo6bo5bo
5b2o42bo\$27b3o8bobo7b2o2bo39bob2o\$37b2ob2o6bo4bo30b2o4b3o2bo\$22b3o11bo
5bo5bo4bo30b2o3bo3b2o\$24bo23bo40b4o\$13bo9bo25bobob2o20b2o15bo\$12bobo
35b2ob2o19bobo12b3o\$2o10b2obo8bobo47bo13bo\$2o10b2ob2o6bo2bo20b3o23b2o
14b5o\$12b2obo6b2o69bo\$12bobo5b2o3bo65bo\$13bo8b2o67b2o\$23bo2bo6b2o\$24bo
bo6bobo53b4o\$6b2o27bo49b2obo4bo\$6b2o27b2o48b2obo2b2obo\$27b2o59bo4bo\$7b
o17bo2bo18b2o39bob3o\$7b2o5bo32b2o23b2o15bo\$8bo4b2o50b2o4bo2bo15bo\$2o7b
ob2o12b2obo36b2o5bobo14b2o\$2ob2o5b2ob2o12bobo2b2o31b2o6bo\$4b2o6bobo13b
o4bo32bo\$6bo22bo35bobo9b2o\$7bo21bo2bo27b3obobo10bo\$6b2o52b4obo12b3o\$6b
obo55bo15bo\$5bobo25bo\$4b2ob2o23bobo\$31bo2bo\$32b2o3b2o\$36b2o\$38bo\$28b2o
\$27bobo\$27bo\$26b2o!
``````
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### Re: Thread for basic questions

wwei47 wrote:
May 12th, 2021, 11:40 pm
What is the highest possible oscillator period in a 50x-100 torus? Trivial oscillators are fair game. Here's a P502320 I made a while ago:

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``````x = 96, y = 48, rule = B3/S23:T100,50
25b2o55b2o\$27bo55bo\$14b2o12bo52bo5b2o\$14b2o4bo7bo8b2o42b2o5bo\$3b2o6b2o
5b2o8bo8b2o49bob2o\$3b2o5b3o5bo2b2o4bo45bo7b2o2b2obo2bo\$11b2o6b5ob2o47b
o6b2o3bob2o\$14b2o4bo51b3o11bo\$14b2o69b2o2\$28bo7b3ob3o48b2o\$29bo6bo5bo
5b2o42bo\$27b3o8bobo7b2o2bo39bob2o\$37b2ob2o6bo4bo30b2o4b3o2bo\$22b3o11bo
5bo5bo4bo30b2o3bo3b2o\$24bo23bo40b4o\$13bo9bo25bobob2o20b2o15bo\$12bobo
35b2ob2o19bobo12b3o\$2o10b2obo8bobo47bo13bo\$2o10b2ob2o6bo2bo20b3o23b2o
14b5o\$12b2obo6b2o69bo\$12bobo5b2o3bo65bo\$13bo8b2o67b2o\$23bo2bo6b2o\$24bo
bo6bobo53b4o\$6b2o27bo49b2obo4bo\$6b2o27b2o48b2obo2b2obo\$27b2o59bo4bo\$7b
o17bo2bo18b2o39bob3o\$7b2o5bo32b2o23b2o15bo\$8bo4b2o50b2o4bo2bo15bo\$2o7b
ob2o12b2obo36b2o5bobo14b2o\$2ob2o5b2ob2o12bobo2b2o31b2o6bo\$4b2o6bobo13b
o4bo32bo\$6bo22bo35bobo9b2o\$7bo21bo2bo27b3obobo10bo\$6b2o52b4obo12b3o\$6b
obo55bo15bo\$5bobo25bo\$4b2ob2o23bobo\$31bo2bo\$32b2o3b2o\$36b2o\$38bo\$28b2o
\$27bobo\$27bo\$26b2o!
``````
good question, maybe you could squeeze a fumarole in there.
need some help with the (13,1)c/31 spaceship

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### Re: Thread for basic questions

C28 wrote:
May 13th, 2021, 8:27 am
good question, maybe you could squeeze a fumarole in there.
P5 is already covered by the queen bees.
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### Re: Thread for basic questions

x11

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``````x = 96, y = 48, rule = B3/S23:T100,50
25b2o55b2o\$27bo55bo\$14b2o12bo52bo5b2o\$14b2o4bo7bo8b2o42b2o5bo\$3b2o6b2o
5b2o8bo8b2o49bob2o\$3b2o5b3o5bo2b2o4bo45bo7b2o2b2obo2bo\$11b2o6b5ob2o47b
o6b2o3bob2o\$14b2o4bo51b3o11bo\$14b2o69b2o2\$28bo7b3ob3o48b2o\$29bo6bo5bo
5b2o42bo\$27b3o8bobo7b2o2bo39bob2o\$37b2ob2o6bo4bo30b2o4b3o2bo\$22b3o11b
o5bo5bo4bo30b2o3bo3b2o\$24bo23bo40b4o\$13bo9bo25bobob2o20b2o15bo\$12bobo
35b2ob2o19bobo12b3o\$2o10b2obo8bobo47bo13bo\$2o10b2ob2o6bo2bo20b3o23b2o
14b5o\$12b2obo6b2o69bo\$12bobo5b2o3bo65bo\$13bo8b2o67b2o\$23bo2bo6b2o\$24b
obo6bobo53b4o\$6b2o27bo49b2obo4bo\$6b2o27b2o48b2obo2b2obo\$27b2o59bo4bo\$
7bo17bo2bo18b2o39bob3o\$7b2o5bo32b2o23b2o15bo\$8bo4b2o50b2o4bo2bo15bo\$2o
7bob2o12b2obo36b2o5bobo14b2o\$2ob2o5b2ob2o12bobo2b2o31b2o6bo\$4b2o6bobo
13bo4bo32bo\$6bo22bo35bobo9b2o\$7bo21bo2bo27b3obobo10bo8bo\$6b2o52b4obo12b
3o5b2o\$6bobo55bo15bo3bobob3o\$5bobo25bo46bob3obobobo\$4b2ob2o23bobo46bo
5bo2b3o\$31bo2bo47bo5b2o3bo\$32b2o3b2o42b2o7b3o\$36b2o52bo\$38bo\$28b2o\$27b
obo\$27bo\$26b2o!

``````
Last edited by ENORMOUS_NAME on May 13th, 2021, 8:44 am, edited 1 time in total.
https://www.conwaylife.com/forums/viewt ... 34#p111934

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``````x = 12, y = 5, rule = Symbiosis
10.B\$10.A\$3A6.A.A\$A.A7.A\$A.A7.B! ``````

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``````x = 10, y = 13, rule = Symbiosis
BA\$.A\$2.B2\$3.B\$3.A\$3.A\$2.B2A2.2A\$4.A2.A.A\$.B2A3.A\$2.A\$2.A\$2.B! ``````

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### Re: Thread for basic questions

p93'933'840 (x11(another)x17):

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``````x = 96, y = 48, rule = B3/S23:T100,50
30bo51b2o\$29bobo51bo\$12b2o14bo3b2o47bo5b2o\$12bobo13bo3b2o3b2o9b3o30b2o
5bo\$3b3ob2o4b3o12bo3b2o3b2o9bo39bob2o\$3b4o2bo4b3o12bobo17bo31b2o2b2obo
2bo\$7b2o4b3o7bo6bo50b2o3bob2o\$12bobo9b2o60bo\$12b2o9b2o60b2o\$75bob2obo\$
26bo10b2ob2o34b4obo9b2o\$26b2o8b2o3b2o5b2o26bo3bo11bo\$25bobo9b2ob2o5bo
44bob2o\$35bobo3bobo3b2o3b2o30b2o4b3o2bo\$30bobo3bo5bo4b3o34b2o3bo3b2o\$
31b2o15b2o2b3o34b4o\$10bo7bo12bo17bobob2o20b2o15bo\$8bobo5b4o30b2ob2o19b
obo12b3o\$2o4b2o8b2o2bo2b2o23b3o23bo13bo\$2o4b2o11b2o2b2o23bo24b2o14b5o\$
6b2o7bo10b2o20bo44bo\$8bobo4bo10b3o62bo\$10bo4bo10b2o63b2o\$23b2o8b2o41bo
bo\$23b2o8bobo40b2o11b4o\$6b2o27bo41bo7b2obo4bo\$5bo2bo26b2o48b2obob3obo\$
27b2o59bo4bo\$27b2o59bob3o\$6bo5bobo30bobo24b2o15bo\$bo5bob2obobo31b2o17b
2o4bo2bo15bo\$o3bo4bob2obo11b3o17bo17bo2bo4bobo14b2o\$o4bo4bob2o12b2obo
2b2o33bo5bo7b2o10bo\$bo9bobo14b2o2b2o33bo13bobo3b7o\$5b2o21b2o31bo3bobo
9b2o4bo2bo\$5bobo8bo43bo3bobo10bo4b2obob2o3b2o\$6bobo6bobo42bo4bo12b3o4b
obo5bo\$4b4o7bobo3b2o38b4o15bob2obo6bo\$7b2o3b2obob2o3bo10bo46bo2bobo5bo
\$4b3o6bobo6bob2o6bobo46b2o2bo4bo\$11bo2bobob3obo2bo5bo2bo50bobobo\$11b2o
bobo4bobo8b2o50b2ob2o\$14bobo2b2o2b2o\$14bobo3bobo\$15b2obobobo5b2o30bobo
\$17bobobo5bobo31b2o\$17bobo7bo33bo\$18b2o6b2o!
``````

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### Re: Thread for basic questions

What's the apgcode of

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``````x = 8, y = 5, rule = B3/S23
2o\$o\$b3o\$4bo\$3b2o\$3bo\$bobo\$b2o!``````
?

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### Re: Thread for basic questions

cgoler2 wrote:
May 13th, 2021, 8:54 am
What's the apgcode of

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``````x = 8, y = 5, rule = B3/S23
2o\$o\$b3o\$4bo\$3b2o\$3bo\$bobo\$b2o!``````
?
xs14_31ego8a6 (Integral siamese eater)
Edit: if you want to get apgcode of another still life, it might be hepful. Go to Dave Greene's link if you have Python3.
Last edited by May13 on May 13th, 2021, 9:25 am, edited 1 time in total.

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### Re: Thread for basic questions

P323226343440 (*3*31*37)

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``````x = 87, y = 50, rule = B3/S23:T100,50
obo3bobo\$bo5bo27bo11b4o24b2o\$34b3o3b2ob2o2b2o2bo22bobo\$19b2o12b2o2bo2b
2ob2o3bo2bo18b2o2bo\$19b2o12bo3bo11bo20bobob2o\$2b2o19bo9bob2o11bo23bo3b
o\$bo15b7o9b2o12b3o19bo2b5o\$b2o3b2o8bo12b2o11b2o3b2obo3b2o13b3o\$b3o11b
ob2o3b2o5bo11bo2bo4b2o4bo16bo3bo\$2b2o2b3o6bobo5bo2b2obo12b2o11bob2o12b
o5bo\$3bobob2o3b2obo6bo3bob2ob2o19b2ob2obo13b6o\$4b2ob2o3b2obo5bo9bo21b
o\$2b3o10bo4bo10bobo17bobo7b2o11b2o\$2bo12bobobo12b2o17b2o8b2o11b2o\$2bo
11b2ob2o17bo11bo\$32b5o11b5o\$32bo19bo3bo8bo5bo8bo\$34bo15bo4bobo6b2o5b2o
6bobo\$10b2o21b2o15b2o2bo2bo5bo2bo3bo2bo5bo2bo\$10bobo42b2o6bobo5bobo6b
2o\$b3ob2o4b3o7b2o41b2o5b2o\$b4o2bo4b3o6b2o\$5b2o4b3o\$10bobo37b2o33b2o\$10b
2o38b2o33b2o\$29b2obo2bob2o17b2o21b2o\$6b2o14b2o4bo2bo4bo2bo4b2o9bo2bo19b
o2bo\$5bo2bo13b2o5bobo4bobo5b2o8b2ob2o19b2ob2o\$30bo6bo18bo23bo2\$6bo5bo
bo\$bo5bob2obobo\$o3bo4bob2obo41bo23bo\$o4bo4bob2o40b2ob2o19b2ob2o\$bo9bo
bo16bo6bo17bo2bo19bo2bo\$5b2o15b2o5bobo4bobo5b2o10b2o21b2o\$5bobo14b2o4b
o2bo4bo2bo4b2o4b2o33b2o\$6bobo6bo13b2obo2bob2o11b2o33b2o\$4b4o6bobo\$7b2o
5bobo3b2o\$4b3o4b2obob2o3bo42b2o5b2o\$12bobo6bob2o30b2o6bobo5bobo6b2o\$10b
o2bobob3obo2bo29bo2bo5bo2bo3bo2bo5bo2bo\$10b2obobo4bobo10b2o15b2o3bobo
6b2o5b2o6bobo\$13bobo2b2o2b2o10bo15bo5bo8bo5bo8bo\$13bobo3bobo10bo19bo\$
14b2obobobo10b5o11b5o\$2b2ob2o9bobobo15bo11bo12b2o11b2o\$b2o3b2o8bobo11b
4o17b4o6b2o11b2o\$2b2ob2o10b2o11bo2bo17bo2bo!

``````
https://www.conwaylife.com/forums/viewt ... 34#p111934

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``````x = 12, y = 5, rule = Symbiosis
10.B\$10.A\$3A6.A.A\$A.A7.A\$A.A7.B! ``````

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``````x = 10, y = 13, rule = Symbiosis
BA\$.A\$2.B2\$3.B\$3.A\$3.A\$2.B2A2.2A\$4.A2.A.A\$.B2A3.A\$2.A\$2.A\$2.B! ``````

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### Re: Thread for basic questions

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### Re: Thread for basic questions

cgoler2 wrote:
May 13th, 2021, 9:26 am
Lua can't pull up arbitrary Internet URLs as easily as Python can. I suppose you could write out a local HTML file, then open it in Golly, and then have the user click the link -- but nobody has taken the time yet to put together that particular variant of biggiemac's script.

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### Re: Thread for basic questions

ENORMOUS_NAME wrote:
May 13th, 2021, 9:21 am
P323226343440 (*3*31*37)...
P15191638141680 (*47):

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``````x = 100, y = 50, rule = B3/S23:T100,50
28bobo31b2o\$29bobo29b3o22b2o\$b2o27b2o21b2ob2o2b2o2bo14b3o4bobo\$o22bobo
9bo17b2ob2o2bo3bo11b3obo7bo2b2o\$bob2o18b2obo4bo4bob2o8bo11bobo11bo2bo
2b2o5b2obobo\$2bobo17bob2obo4bo3bobobo6b3o23bo3b5o3b2obobo\$22bobob2obo
5bo4bo8b2o10b2ob2o7b3o4bo4b2o3bo2bo\$2bobo17bobo5bo8b2ob2o2b2o2b3ob2o7b
o3b2o6bo9b2obo2b3o\$bob2o6b2o3bo25bo7b2obo2bo11bo11bo5b2ob2o\$o11bo2bobo
24bo7b3ob2o12bob2o7bobo3bo5bo\$b2o7bo4bobo10bo2bo3b2ob2ob2ob2ob2obo14b
2ob2obo8bo4b6o\$10b5obo12b2o3bobobo5bo4bo16bo\$14bo18bo4bo5bo19bobo7b2o
11b2o\$3b2o5b2o3bo16bo5bob2o3b3o4b2o10b2o8b2o11b2o\$4bo5b2o4bo14bo3b2obo
b2o7bo2bo2bo5bo\$4bobo8b2o8bo4bo3bobobo6b5o4b2o5b5o\$5b2o16b3o4b2o2b2o2b
o6bo4b4o2b2o7bo3bo23bo\$22bo14bo9bo2bo3bo3bo4bo4bobo3b3o9b3o3bobo\$22b2o
6b7o9b2o4b2ob3o5b2o2bo2bo6bo7bo6bo2bo\$30bo22bo4b3o7b2o5bo2bo5bo2bo5b2o
\$33b2o7b2o7bobo2b2o2bo\$2b2o29b2o7b2o5b3obo4b2o16b4o3b4o\$2b2o8bo35bo4b
5o18b3o5b3o\$12b2o11b2o22b4o4bo5b2o3bo25bo3b2o\$11bob2o10bo4bo15bo6b4o6b
2o3bobo21bobo3b2o\$10b2o2b2o7bobo3bo17bo3b2o15bo3b2o15b2o3bo\$10b2o2b3o
6b2o7bo2b3ob3o2bo6bo2bo5bo8bo2b2o15b2o2bo\$4b2o4bo3b3o13bob2o9b2obo6b2o
3b3o9bob2o15b2obo\$3bobo8b4o12bo6bobo6bo10bo14bo17bo\$3bo11b2obo12b2o3bo
3bo3b2o11b2o\$2b2o27b5o5b5o\$17bo7b2o\$25b2o45bo17bo\$31b5o5b5o24bob2o15b
2obo\$16b3o12b2o3bo3bo3b2o8b3o12bo2b2o15b2o2bo\$5b2o9b3o11bo6bobo6bo21bo
3b2o15b2o3bo\$6bo10bo12bob2o9b2obo7bobo6b2o3bobo21bobo3b2o\$3b3o16b2o8bo
2b3ob3o2bo8b5o5b2o3bo25bo3b2o\$3bo8b2o8bobo4bo17bo4b2o3b2o17b3o5b3o\$12b
o4b2o5bo5bo15bo5b2o3b2o17b4o3b4o\$13bo3b2o5b2o\$14bo53b2o5bo2bo5bo2bo5b
2o\$12bob5o14b2o7b2o11bo11bo2bo6bo7bo6bo2bo\$11bobo4bo14b2o7b2o2b2o5b2o
8b2o3bobo3b3o9b3o3bobo\$11bobo2bo30bo15bo5bo23bo\$12bo3b2o27bo6bo12bo\$
45b5o11b5o\$30b3o16bo3bo2bo4bo12b2o11b2o\$28b2o13b4o8b2o7b4o6b2o11b2o\$
29b4o10bo2bo17bo2bo!``````
I'm not really any good at welding, so it's quite possible there's a way to free up a fair amount more room in this thing. Not sure it will be enough room to add anything else useful, though -- the prime periods that we haven't hit tend to need a lot of space.

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### Re: Thread for basic questions

Replace the queen bee shuttle with a fumarole. The Rob's P16+Thumb 1 should cover the P6 part.
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### Re: Thread for basic questions

What's the smallest still life where the smallest (including tied for smallest) (by population) predecessor contains at least one glider? Are there any still lives for which the smallest (again including tied for smallest) predecessor consists of only gliders?
I have historically worked on conduits, but recently, I've been working on glider syntheses and investigating SnakeLife.

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### Re: Thread for basic questions

MathAndCode wrote:
May 13th, 2021, 4:49 pm
What's the smallest still life where the smallest (including tied for smallest) (by population) predecessor contains at least one glider? Are there any still lives for which the smallest (again including tied for smallest) predecessor consists of only gliders?
Now that's quite confusing....

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``````x = 20, y = 5, rule = B3/S23
4bo8b3o\$3o12bo\$2bo11bo2b2o\$bo15bobo\$17bo!``````

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### Re: Thread for basic questions

MathAndCode wrote:
May 13th, 2021, 4:49 pm
What's the smallest still life where the smallest (including tied for smallest) (by population) predecessor contains at least one glider? Are there any still lives for which the smallest (again including tied for smallest) predecessor consists of only gliders?
JP21 wrote:
May 14th, 2021, 12:23 am
Now that's quite confusing....
Neither of those qualify, because a block's minimum predecessor is 3 bits, while these are 6 and 10 respectively - they are not minimal.

If pseudo-still-lifes were allowed, things like boat-bit-on-snake/carrier/eater would likely qualify, because they can be made by adding a glider to the underlying still-life, and the glider ties the boat for population (and no intermediate steps go below 5).

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Whats the difference between a semi-snark and a semi-cenark?
-- Kalan Warusa

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``````x = 4, y = 4, rule = B2ek3ij4-jnqrz/S23
2b2o\$3bo\$ob2o\$3o!
``````

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### Re: Thread for basic questions

ihatecorderships wrote:
May 14th, 2021, 10:42 am
Whats the difference between a semi-snark and a semi-cenark?
Semi-cenark is a variant of semi-Snark that produces a century output for every two input gliders.
Semi-cenark

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### Re: Thread for basic questions

Are these gliders on transparent lanes? If not, How should I make them on transparent lanes?

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``````x = 18, y = 31, rule = WWLife
A\$3.A\$A2.A\$2.3A\$2.3A\$.A2.A\$.A.A\$.3A2\$10.C17\$17.D\$16.D3\$4.C!``````

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``````x = 21, y = 21, rule = LifeColorful
11.E\$10.3E\$10.E.2E\$13.E4\$2.2B\$.2B\$2B\$.2B15.2D\$19.2D\$18.2D\$17.2D4\$7.C\$
7.2C.C\$8.3C\$9.C!``````
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### Re: Thread for basic questions

ColorfulGabrielsp138 wrote:
May 14th, 2021, 10:22 pm
Are these gliders on transparent lanes? If not, How should I make them on transparent lanes?

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``````x = 18, y = 31, rule = WWLife
A\$3.A\$A2.A\$2.3A\$2.3A\$.A2.A\$.A.A\$.3A2\$10.C17\$17.D\$16.D3\$4.C!``````
It's pretty easy to answer this kind of question, just by running the pattern in LifeViewer until the gliders come out, then editing the gliders to turn them 180 degrees on the same lane. Run the reversed gliders through the pattern. If they don't hit anything, the lanes are transparent.

In this case, what you have is the WWLife equivalent of a standard NW31 Herschel-to-2-glider converter, which does indeed include two transparent-lane outputs (plus one more optional output that's not transparent).

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``````x = 82, y = 78, rule = LifeSuper
5.B\$5.2B\$5.3B\$5.4B\$6.4B\$7.4B\$8.4B\$9.4B\$10.4B\$11.4B\$12.4B\$13.4B2.O\$14.
4B4.O\$15.4BO2.O\$16.4B.3O\$17.4B3O31.B\$18.2BOB.O9.O20.2B\$19.BOBO8.3O19.
3B\$20.3OB6.O21.4B\$21.4B5.2O19.4B\$22.4B24.4B\$23.4B22.4B\$24.4B20.4B\$25.
4B18.4B\$26.4B16.4B\$27.4B14.4B\$28.4B12.4B\$29.4B10.4B\$30.4B8.4B\$10.2O
19.4B6.4B\$10.2O20.4B4.4B\$33.4B2.4B\$34.8B\$35.6B\$36.4B\$35.6B\$34.8B\$33.
4B2.4B\$32.4B4.4B\$25.2O4.4B6.4B\$25.2O3.4B8.4B\$29.4B10.4B\$28.4B12.4B\$
27.4B14.4B\$26.4B16.4B\$25.4B18.4B\$24.4B20.4B\$23.4B22.4B\$22.4B24.4B\$21.
4B26.4B\$20.4B28.4B\$19.4B30.3B\$18.4B32.2B\$17.4B34.B\$16.4B16\$2A\$.2A\$A3\$
79.2A\$79.A.A\$79.A!``````

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### Re: Thread for basic questions

dvgrn wrote:
May 15th, 2021, 10:04 am
ColorfulGabrielsp138 wrote:
May 14th, 2021, 10:22 pm
Are these gliders on transparent lanes? If not, How should I make them on transparent lanes?

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``````x = 18, y = 31, rule = WWLife
A\$3.A\$A2.A\$2.3A\$2.3A\$.A2.A\$.A.A\$.3A2\$10.C17\$17.D\$16.D3\$4.C!``````
It's pretty easy to answer this kind of question, just by running the pattern in LifeViewer until the gliders come out, then editing the gliders to turn them 180 degrees on the same lane. Run the reversed gliders through the pattern. If they don't hit anything, the lanes are transparent.

In this case, what you have is the WWLife equivalent of a standard NW31 Herschel-to-2-glider converter, which does indeed include two transparent-lane outputs (plus one more optional output that's not transparent).

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``````x = 82, y = 78, rule = LifeSuper
5.B\$5.2B\$5.3B\$5.4B\$6.4B\$7.4B\$8.4B\$9.4B\$10.4B\$11.4B\$12.4B\$13.4B2.O\$14.
4B4.O\$15.4BO2.O\$16.4B.3O\$17.4B3O31.B\$18.2BOB.O9.O20.2B\$19.BOBO8.3O19.
3B\$20.3OB6.O21.4B\$21.4B5.2O19.4B\$22.4B24.4B\$23.4B22.4B\$24.4B20.4B\$25.
4B18.4B\$26.4B16.4B\$27.4B14.4B\$28.4B12.4B\$29.4B10.4B\$30.4B8.4B\$10.2O
19.4B6.4B\$10.2O20.4B4.4B\$33.4B2.4B\$34.8B\$35.6B\$36.4B\$35.6B\$34.8B\$33.
4B2.4B\$32.4B4.4B\$25.2O4.4B6.4B\$25.2O3.4B8.4B\$29.4B10.4B\$28.4B12.4B\$
27.4B14.4B\$26.4B16.4B\$25.4B18.4B\$24.4B20.4B\$23.4B22.4B\$22.4B24.4B\$21.
4B26.4B\$20.4B28.4B\$19.4B30.3B\$18.4B32.2B\$17.4B34.B\$16.4B16\$2A\$.2A\$A3\$
79.2A\$79.A.A\$79.A!``````
So this means that the first glider is on the transparent lane but the second is not?
I tried your way, and found that the first glider passed safely (if the boat was not present) and the second glider crashed and formed a boat.

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``````x = 21, y = 21, rule = LifeColorful
11.E\$10.3E\$10.E.2E\$13.E4\$2.2B\$.2B\$2B\$.2B15.2D\$19.2D\$18.2D\$17.2D4\$7.C\$
7.2C.C\$8.3C\$9.C!``````
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### Re: Thread for basic questions

ColorfulGabrielsp138 wrote:
May 16th, 2021, 6:06 am
So this means that the first glider is on the transparent lane but the second is not?
I tried your way, and found that the first glider passed safely (if the boat was not present) and the second glider crashed and formed a boat.
Yes, in your WWLife version of the pattern, the FNG is on a transparent lane, but your duoplet catalyst gets in the way of the SNG transparent lane.

Obviously there's no problem porting a standard NW31 to WWLife, though -- that duoplet catalyst isn't really needed:

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``````x = 82, y = 67, rule = WWLife
19.A\$22.A\$19.A2.A\$21.3A\$21.3A\$20.A2.A9.A\$20.A.A8.3A\$20.3A7.A\$30.2A10\$
10.2A\$10.2A9\$25.2A\$25.2A30\$2A\$.2A\$A3\$79.2A\$79.A.A\$79.A!``````

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### Re: Thread for basic questions

What is this 19-bit still life? (Is this a strict or pseudo still life?)

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``````x = 7, y = 6, rule = B3/S23
5bo\$b2obobo\$b2ob2o2\$ob3obo\$2obob2o!
``````
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### Re: Thread for basic questions

Entity Valkyrie 2 wrote:
May 17th, 2021, 4:00 am
What is this 19-bit still life? (Is this a strict or pseudo still life?)

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``````x = 7, y = 6, rule = B3/S23
5bo\$b2obobo\$b2ob2o2\$ob3obo\$2obob2o!
``````
It's a pseudo still life, because it can be partitioned (by islands) into two stable patterns:

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``````x = 36, y = 6, rule = B3/S23
5bo28bo\$b2obobo12b2o12bobo\$b2ob2o13b2o12b2o2\$ob3obo11bob3obo\$2obob2o
11b2obob2o!``````
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Then which way is it?
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