## Catagolue Oddities

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calcyman
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### Re: Catagolue Oddities

muzik wrote:
April 22nd, 2021, 2:06 pm
Something weird is going on here, not sure if the viewer is at fault or if it's catagolue:
https://catagolue.appspot.com/object/xp ... s/g17b3s23
Fixed in commit https://gitlab.com/apgoucher/catagolue/ ... 2495e5584f
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muzik
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### Re: Catagolue Oddities

Is it just me or are the images significantly offset to the side here?
https://catagolue.appspot.com/census/b2s34h/D12/xp10

calcyman
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### Re: Catagolue Oddities

muzik wrote:
April 23rd, 2021, 6:08 am
Is it just me or are the images significantly offset to the side here?
https://catagolue.appspot.com/census/b2s34h/D12/xp10
Yes, it's because it uses the pattern's bounding box, which then becomes a parallelogram when you apply the affine transformation (to make the hexagonal cells regular), and that parallelogram is then used to determine the image's bounding box.
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### Re: Catagolue Oddities

Why are there two p2s called "beacon on something" and ":D"?

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### Re: Catagolue Oddities

cgoler2 wrote:
April 23rd, 2021, 12:12 pm
Why are there two p2s called "beacon on something" and ":D"?
"something" was imported from an older census, and ":D" was Calcyman's idea of a joke.
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sonata wrote:
July 2nd, 2020, 8:33 pm
conwaylife signatures are amazing[citation needed]
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calcyman
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### Re: Catagolue Oddities

bubblegum wrote:
April 23rd, 2021, 12:51 pm
cgoler2 wrote:
April 23rd, 2021, 12:12 pm
Why are there two p2s called "beacon on something" and ":D"?
"something" was imported from an older census, and ":D" was Calcyman's idea of a joke.
I don't think it was my idea; I copied it from an anonymous comment someone made on the page.
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bubblegum
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### Re: Catagolue Oddities

Indeed. xp2_rhewehv0rr

:D
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sonata wrote:
July 2nd, 2020, 8:33 pm
conwaylife signatures are amazing[citation needed]
anything

MathAndCode
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### Re: Catagolue Oddities

xs19_0br0f96z321's name appears to have a typo. Dock should be replaced with block.
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Ian07
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### Re: Catagolue Oddities

Someone apparently added some messless objects to the C1 census that don't meet the 500 threshold: https://catagolue.hatsya.com/census/b3s23/C1/messless

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### Re: Catagolue Oddities

Ian07 wrote:
May 1st, 2021, 9:05 pm
Someone apparently added some messless objects to the C1 census that don't meet the 500 threshold: https://catagolue.hatsya.com/census/b3s23/C1/messless
I can’t see that, though
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ColorfulGabrielsp138
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### Re: Catagolue Oddities

Also, Catagolue lists "xkcd" jokes patterns: xkcd_48jsj8gzwe9e

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``````x = 21, y = 21, rule = LifeColorful
11.E\$10.3E\$10.E.2E\$13.E4\$2.2B\$.2B\$2B\$.2B15.2D\$19.2D\$18.2D\$17.2D4\$7.C\$
7.2C.C\$8.3C\$9.C!``````
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Ian07
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### Re: Catagolue Oddities

yujh wrote:
May 1st, 2021, 9:08 pm
I can’t see that, though
Scroll down.

calcyman
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### Re: Catagolue Oddities

Ian07 wrote:
May 1st, 2021, 9:05 pm
Someone apparently added some messless objects to the C1 census that don't meet the 500 threshold: https://catagolue.hatsya.com/census/b3s23/C1/messless
The attribute logs exist:

https://catagolue.hatsya.com/attribute/messless_4h
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### Re: Catagolue Oddities

calcyman wrote:
May 3rd, 2021, 6:05 am
Ian07 wrote:
May 1st, 2021, 9:05 pm
Someone apparently added some messless objects to the C1 census that don't meet the 500 threshold: https://catagolue.hatsya.com/census/b3s23/C1/messless
The attribute logs exist:

https://catagolue.hatsya.com/attribute/messless_4h

MathAndCode
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### Re: Catagolue Oddities

https://catagolue.hatsya.com/census/b3s ... -costs/xs0
Why does a vacuum cost three gliders?
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### Re: Catagolue Oddities

MathAndCode wrote:
May 8th, 2021, 8:24 pm
Why does a vacuum cost three gliders?
Why would someone bother to optimally synthesise literal nothing?
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sonata wrote:
July 2nd, 2020, 8:33 pm
conwaylife signatures are amazing[citation needed]
anything

wwei47
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### Re: Catagolue Oddities

bubblegum wrote:
May 8th, 2021, 10:47 pm
Why would someone bother to optimally synthesise literal nothing?
I guess it's synthesis for the sake of synthesis.

Macbi
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### Re: Catagolue Oddities

The page itself https://catagolue.hatsya.com/object/xs0_0/b3s23 correctly says that the vacuum costs 0 gliders.

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### Re: Catagolue Oddities

If you remove B3/S23/C1 for a sample soup, it displays the same soup in a different file format.
Edit: In Morley/Move, it says that the glider is a spaceship.

creeperman7002
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### Re: Catagolue Oddities

What's up with this gap?
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B2n3-jn/S1c23-y is an interesting rule. It has a replicator, a fake glider, an OMOS and SMOS, a wide variety of oscillators, and some signals. Also this rule is omniperiodic.
viewtopic.php?f=11&t=4856

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### Re: Catagolue Oddities

Maze (b3s12345) is listed on the list of rules as having one symmetry, but the rule's page doesn't have any symmetries. what happened?

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### Re: Catagolue Oddities

cgoler2 wrote:
May 10th, 2021, 6:38 pm
Edit: In Morley/Move, it says that the phase

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``````x = 3, y = 3, rule = B368/S245
bo\$2bo\$3o!``````
of the glider is a spaceship.

bubblegum
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### Re: Catagolue Oddities

cgoler2 wrote:
May 10th, 2021, 6:38 pm
Edit: In Morley/Move, it says that the phase

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``````x = 3, y = 3, rule = B368/S245
bo\$2bo\$3o!``````
of the glider is a spaceship.
Older versions of apgsearch incorrectly assumed the glider would be a spaceship somehow. Just gotta wait until apgoucher adds -33435277 gliders to the census.
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sonata wrote:
July 2nd, 2020, 8:33 pm
conwaylife signatures are amazing[citation needed]
anything

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### Re: Catagolue Oddities

Catagolue classifies P1 Spaceship as Still lifes.
https://catagolue.hatsya.com/census/g3b2s/C1/xs3
Edit:This pattern is classified as ov, even though it is less than 40x40 in size.
https://catagolue.hatsya.com/census/b012345678s/C1/ov

Edit2:This soup does not generate ov_p1.
https://catagolue.hatsya.com/object/ov_q1/g10b2s0345
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MathAndCode
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### Re: Catagolue Oddities

Why is xs20_yo33zo4oyaccz01y32552 so expensive? Shouldn't transfer.py have reduced it with add beehive and add block components?
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