Catagolue Oddities

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Re: Catagolue Oddities

Post by calcyman » April 22nd, 2021, 4:44 pm

muzik wrote:
April 22nd, 2021, 2:06 pm
Something weird is going on here, not sure if the viewer is at fault or if it's catagolue:
https://catagolue.appspot.com/object/xp ... s/g17b3s23
Fixed in commit https://gitlab.com/apgoucher/catagolue/ ... 2495e5584f
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Re: Catagolue Oddities

Post by muzik » April 23rd, 2021, 6:08 am

Is it just me or are the images significantly offset to the side here?
https://catagolue.appspot.com/census/b2s34h/D12/xp10

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Re: Catagolue Oddities

Post by calcyman » April 23rd, 2021, 11:37 am

muzik wrote:
April 23rd, 2021, 6:08 am
Is it just me or are the images significantly offset to the side here?
https://catagolue.appspot.com/census/b2s34h/D12/xp10
Yes, it's because it uses the pattern's bounding box, which then becomes a parallelogram when you apply the affine transformation (to make the hexagonal cells regular), and that parallelogram is then used to determine the image's bounding box.
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Re: Catagolue Oddities

Post by cgoler2 » April 23rd, 2021, 12:12 pm

Why are there two p2s called "beacon on something" and ":D"?

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Re: Catagolue Oddities

Post by bubblegum » April 23rd, 2021, 12:51 pm

cgoler2 wrote:
April 23rd, 2021, 12:12 pm
Why are there two p2s called "beacon on something" and ":D"?
"something" was imported from an older census, and ":D" was Calcyman's idea of a joke.
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Re: Catagolue Oddities

Post by calcyman » April 23rd, 2021, 3:30 pm

bubblegum wrote:
April 23rd, 2021, 12:51 pm
cgoler2 wrote:
April 23rd, 2021, 12:12 pm
Why are there two p2s called "beacon on something" and ":D"?
"something" was imported from an older census, and ":D" was Calcyman's idea of a joke.
I don't think it was my idea; I copied it from an anonymous comment someone made on the page.
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Re: Catagolue Oddities

Post by bubblegum » April 23rd, 2021, 3:53 pm

Indeed. xp2_rhewehv0rr

:D
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Re: Catagolue Oddities

Post by MathAndCode » April 24th, 2021, 8:01 pm

xs19_0br0f96z321's name appears to have a typo. Dock should be replaced with block.
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Re: Catagolue Oddities

Post by Ian07 » May 1st, 2021, 9:05 pm

Someone apparently added some messless objects to the C1 census that don't meet the 500 threshold: https://catagolue.hatsya.com/census/b3s23/C1/messless

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Re: Catagolue Oddities

Post by yujh » May 1st, 2021, 9:08 pm

Ian07 wrote:
May 1st, 2021, 9:05 pm
Someone apparently added some messless objects to the C1 census that don't meet the 500 threshold: https://catagolue.hatsya.com/census/b3s23/C1/messless
I can’t see that, though
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Re: Catagolue Oddities

Post by ColorfulGabrielsp138 » May 1st, 2021, 9:11 pm

Also, Catagolue lists "xkcd" jokes patterns: xkcd_48jsj8gzwe9e

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x = 21, y = 21, rule = LifeColorful
11.E$10.3E$10.E.2E$13.E4$2.2B$.2B$2B$.2B15.2D$19.2D$18.2D$17.2D4$7.C$
7.2C.C$8.3C$9.C!
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Re: Catagolue Oddities

Post by Ian07 » May 2nd, 2021, 10:21 am

yujh wrote:
May 1st, 2021, 9:08 pm
I can’t see that, though
Scroll down.

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Re: Catagolue Oddities

Post by calcyman » May 3rd, 2021, 6:05 am

Ian07 wrote:
May 1st, 2021, 9:05 pm
Someone apparently added some messless objects to the C1 census that don't meet the 500 threshold: https://catagolue.hatsya.com/census/b3s23/C1/messless
The attribute logs exist:

https://catagolue.hatsya.com/attribute/messless_4h
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Re: Catagolue Oddities

Post by yujh » May 3rd, 2021, 7:00 am

calcyman wrote:
May 3rd, 2021, 6:05 am
Ian07 wrote:
May 1st, 2021, 9:05 pm
Someone apparently added some messless objects to the C1 census that don't meet the 500 threshold: https://catagolue.hatsya.com/census/b3s23/C1/messless
The attribute logs exist:

https://catagolue.hatsya.com/attribute/messless_4h
So that’s Dylan messing around—have you guys told him about this in the discord server?

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Re: Catagolue Oddities

Post by MathAndCode » May 8th, 2021, 8:24 pm

https://catagolue.hatsya.com/census/b3s ... -costs/xs0
Why does a vacuum cost three gliders?
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Re: Catagolue Oddities

Post by bubblegum » May 8th, 2021, 10:47 pm

MathAndCode wrote:
May 8th, 2021, 8:24 pm
Why does a vacuum cost three gliders?
Why would someone bother to optimally synthesise literal nothing?
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Re: Catagolue Oddities

Post by wwei47 » May 9th, 2021, 12:40 am

bubblegum wrote:
May 8th, 2021, 10:47 pm
Why would someone bother to optimally synthesise literal nothing?
I guess it's synthesis for the sake of synthesis.

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Re: Catagolue Oddities

Post by Macbi » May 9th, 2021, 4:30 am

The page itself https://catagolue.hatsya.com/object/xs0_0/b3s23 correctly says that the vacuum costs 0 gliders.

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Re: Catagolue Oddities

Post by cgoler2 » May 10th, 2021, 6:38 pm

If you remove B3/S23/C1 for a sample soup, it displays the same soup in a different file format.
Edit: In Morley/Move, it says that the glider is a spaceship.

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Re: Catagolue Oddities

Post by creeperman7002 » May 29th, 2021, 11:21 am

What's up with this gap?
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B2n3-jn/S1c23-y is an interesting rule. It has a replicator, a fake glider, an OMOS and SMOS, a wide variety of oscillators, and some signals. Also this rule is omniperiodic.
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Re: Catagolue Oddities

Post by Saka » June 1st, 2021, 8:51 am

Maze (b3s12345) is listed on the list of rules as having one symmetry, but the rule's page doesn't have any symmetries. what happened?

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Re: Catagolue Oddities

Post by cgoler2 » June 3rd, 2021, 9:47 am

cgoler2 wrote:
May 10th, 2021, 6:38 pm
Edit: In Morley/Move, it says that the phase

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x = 3, y = 3, rule = B368/S245
bo$2bo$3o!
of the glider is a spaceship.

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Re: Catagolue Oddities

Post by bubblegum » June 3rd, 2021, 12:08 pm

cgoler2 wrote:
May 10th, 2021, 6:38 pm
Edit: In Morley/Move, it says that the phase

Code: Select all

x = 3, y = 3, rule = B368/S245
bo$2bo$3o!
of the glider is a spaceship.
Older versions of apgsearch incorrectly assumed the glider would be a spaceship somehow. Just gotta wait until apgoucher adds -33435277 gliders to the census.
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Re: Catagolue Oddities

Post by bibunsekibun » June 4th, 2021, 7:13 pm

Catagolue classifies P1 Spaceship as Still lifes.
https://catagolue.hatsya.com/census/g3b2s/C1/xs3
Edit:This pattern is classified as ov, even though it is less than 40x40 in size.
https://catagolue.hatsya.com/census/b012345678s/C1/ov

Edit2:This soup does not generate ov_p1.
https://catagolue.hatsya.com/object/ov_q1/g10b2s0345
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Re: Catagolue Oddities

Post by MathAndCode » June 12th, 2021, 4:15 pm

Why is xs20_yo33zo4oyaccz01y32552 so expensive? Shouldn't transfer.py have reduced it with add beehive and add block components?
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