Catagolue Oddities

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Re: Catagolue Oddities

Post by EvinZL » June 14th, 2021, 8:54 am


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Re: Catagolue Oddities

Post by MathAndCode » June 19th, 2021, 9:08 pm

xs0_contrib has a "glider synthesis".
I have historically worked on conduits, but recently, I've been working on glider syntheses and investigating SnakeLife.

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Re: Catagolue Oddities

Post by LaundryPizza03 » June 21st, 2021, 4:52 am

This 10-cell still life is consistently misidentified as PATHOLOGICAL.

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x = 16, y = 16, rule = R2,C3,M1,S5..5,B4..4,NM
.2A.A.2A.4A.2A$4A.A.2A.A2.3A$2A3.A3.2A.2A$6.2A2.A.A2.A$2A.A.A3.A.A$A.
2A2.3A2.A$2.2A.A2.2A2.A2.A$.3A5.A4.A$.4A3.3A4.A$A.A.6A.A$5A2.A.A2.A2.
A$.2A2.A2.3A.A$5A4.2A2.3A$.A2.A.2A2.5A$3.A.A.2A2.A2.A$4.A2.A5.2A!

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x = 4, y = 3, rule = B3-q4z5y/S234k5j
2b2o$b2o$2o!
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Re: Catagolue Oddities

Post by bubblegum » June 21st, 2021, 11:40 am

LaundryPizza03 wrote:
June 21st, 2021, 4:52 am
This 10-cell still life is consistently misidentified as PATHOLOGICAL.
The rule is R2, but apgsearch's object separation algorithm mistakenly separates the two parts as if it was R1. Then each half becomes a spaceship and apgsearch panics and slaps PATHOLOGICAL over it.
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Re: Catagolue Oddities

Post by yujh » June 24th, 2021, 8:18 am

Should be known, but WHAT https://catagolue.hatsya.com/object/xq6 ... 4t45s34t57

EDIT by dvgrn: the Catagolue page shows a LTL spaceship with illegal states in it, up to states 10 and 14 (J and N):

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x = 12, y = 14, rule = R5,C6,M1,S34..57,B34..45,NM
4.B$2.B.2FB$.BF2.2JFB$B2.J5AF$B2.2A.5A$FJ2A2.N5A$FNA2.BJN4A$B3AN2J2N3A$.F2A5N
3A$.B3A3N4A$2.9A$2.8A$3.7A$4.4A!
But when you run one of the soups in Golly, you get a slightly oblique p6 spaceship, but it runs in a six-state Generations rule, as the "C6" implies:

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x = 13, y = 12, rule = R5,C6,M1,S34..57,B34..45,NM
4.5A$2.DB6A$.DC8A$.DB9A$DC2A2ECB5A$CBA4EC5A$2CE2.2ED4A$DCBA.2E5A$2DCB
2E4AB$.2DC2B2ABD$2.2D3C2D$3.ED!

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Re: Catagolue Oddities

Post by yujh » June 24th, 2021, 9:29 am

(sry for dp) Why doesn't catagolue support Range8 bugs?

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Re: Catagolue Oddities

Post by muzik » June 25th, 2021, 3:44 pm

yujh wrote:
June 24th, 2021, 9:29 am
(sry for dp) Why doesn't catagolue support Range8 bugs?
Because it doesn't support range 7+ rules in general?

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Re: Catagolue Oddities

Post by yujh » June 25th, 2021, 8:02 pm

muzik wrote:
June 25th, 2021, 3:44 pm
yujh wrote:
June 24th, 2021, 9:29 am
(sry for dp) Why doesn't catagolue support Range8 bugs?
Because it doesn't support range 7+ rules in general?
True. I found that out later. I’m wondering when apgsearch or catagolue will support those.

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Re: Catagolue Oddities

Post by yujh » July 11th, 2021, 3:26 am

Weird:

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ping catagolue.hatsya.com

Pinging ghs.googlehosted.com [172.217.160.115] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 172.217.160.115: bytes=32 time=246ms TTL=111
Reply from 172.217.160.115: bytes=32 time=242ms TTL=111
Reply from 172.217.160.115: bytes=32 time=242ms TTL=111
Reply from 172.217.160.115: bytes=32 time=242ms TTL=111

Ping statistics for 172.217.160.115:
    Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
    Minimum = 242ms, Maximum = 246ms, Average = 243ms

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Greetings, this is apgluxe v5.2-ll2.4.3, configured for b3s23/C1.

Lifelib version: ll2.4.3
Compiler version: 9.3.0
Python version: '3.8.5 (default, Jul 28 2020, 12:59:40)  [GCC 9.3.0]'

Peer-reviewing hauls:

Internet does not exist; henceforth trying catagolue.appspot.com instead of catagolue.hatsya.com...
Received no response from /verify.

Peer-review complete; proceeding search.

Using seed k_fgPUzrut2imW
Instruction set AVX2 detected
Running 10000000 soups per haul:
^CGot signal 2, will attempt to submit results before exiting
b3s23/C1: 63226 soups completed (17270.145 soups/second current, 17270.145 overall).
----------------------------------------------------------------------
63226 soups completed.
Attempting to contact Catagolue...
Internet does not exist; henceforth trying gol.hatsya.co.uk instead of catagolue.appspot.com...
No response!
Connection was unsuccessful.
New seed: k_yXtB9N8J8pzT; iterations = 0; quitByUser = 1
Terminating...
I can access catagolue.hatsya.com but apgsearch v5 can't.

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Re: Catagolue Oddities

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Re: Catagolue Oddities

Post by bubblegum » July 13th, 2021, 2:35 am

yujh wrote:
July 12th, 2021, 10:56 pm
puffer fish is a gif: https://catagolue.hatsya.com/object/yl1 ... 523/b38s23
Indeed, and so are the BLSE/GPSE ones, since Catagolue can't generate yl SVGs. The pufferfish GIF is just extremely poorly made.
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Re: Catagolue Oddities

Post by Inferno » July 13th, 2021, 11:29 am

Is this known?
https://catagolue.appspot.com/haul/b3s2 ... 19db83dcb8
This haul has some 'explode' objects which seem to have been a prototype of some sort.
https://catagolue.appspot.com/object/explode_34/b3s23
Also if you look at this page:
https://catagolue.appspot.com/haul/b3s23/C1?committed=5
you can find this haul, along with another obviously hacked one and one which produces a schick engine.

I'm guessing this page is for the submissions that were removed from the database.

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Re: Catagolue Oddities

Post by yujh » July 13th, 2021, 8:06 pm

Inferno wrote:
July 13th, 2021, 11:29 am
Is this known?
https://catagolue.appspot.com/haul/b3s2 ... 19db83dcb8
This haul has some 'explode' objects which seem to have been a prototype of some sort.
https://catagolue.appspot.com/object/explode_34/b3s23
Also if you look at this page:
https://catagolue.appspot.com/haul/b3s23/C1?committed=5
you can find this haul, along with another obviously hacked one and one which produces a schick engine.

I'm guessing this page is for the submissions that were removed from the database.
Basically this haul contains invalid objects (explode_) so they are not in the database

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