Catagolue Oddities

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Re: Catagolue Oddities

Post by confocaloid » April 21st, 2024, 4:55 am

KtT wrote:
April 21st, 2024, 4:31 am
https://catagolue.hatsya.com/object/xq9 ... 5553/b3s23 seems to be the same pattern as https://catagolue.hatsya.com/object/xq9 ... yh33/b3s23.
I had both patterns identified on Catagolue's "Objects" page and both returned the same results.
Here are several other non-canonical apgcodes:
xq96_ya33zy2oozzgg888y94aa4z22gii1y1ggylgo8z0egg01icw1221ym1z0161yag8gzycs010uvwkk8kc8yjggzyn8880e6cyf11x4ei8zyn1ibgzyp1yo11zyokmm122yv8gozyp1yz01zyugo0or4y0g8g0gg0l76wgzyv101y31w1203xq5rzyzyccccc48gyao4ozyzyc444011yc1yboozyzyp696zyzym42248gwg80gy466zyzyj225344403wd0c3
xq96_ya33zy2oozz0oosgy94aa4zw1ojy2ggylo88z4s5h11ecw1221yl1z0323yag8gzyb8880eghewkkkkcyjggzyngcgoa0eyf11xeaizyomfgzyp1zyomgl53ywg0ozyo111yz11zyuoo0c2ey0g8ggggod15wggzyu11011y210110211wf0fzyzycciii48gyao4ozyzydex1yc1yboozyzyp696zyzyn664ogwgggy566zyzyk7554e0311w2771
xq96_ya33zy2oozz0804gy94aa4z011a9hy1ggylocgzkk5025aaw1221z13431yaogzycs08dnne4wmmmcyjggzym1984csa44ye11w4ar4zyog0uzyp10gzyoo4gd3yx8ggzyo121yhgyd11zytg884k264xg888804et2wggzyu111y41y13w67077zyzyccivesogyao4ozyzyc454yf1yboozyzyp696zyzylg068m88gwogy566zyzyj25dc0e0201016041

I guess the actual puzzles are (a) why the object page for the non-canonical apgcode displays any synthesis at all, and (b) why the shown synthesis is completely unrelated:

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#C [[ GRID MAXGRIDSIZE 14 THEME Catagolue ]]
#CSYNTH xq96_y933zy1oozzg8oya4aa4z707y3ggymgoz69992k8w1221yl101z07ycgzybs01h5o80oc8coykggzyg1y1gg8ugicyf11x444ozym1o0h8ym8hzyo1yn121zyoo772ywko8zyo1zytgggcecy0g84w8ep9azyzy111w23y0hvazyzya4k680ogybo4ozyzyb44401yd1yboozyzyo696zyzyl4i48gyb66zyzyi22203443w55553 costs 0 gliders.


#CSYNTH xp120_y064koy1ca23zycoge2zykgggzy6ew96y4hhhzwccyg111zgggyg66z0hhhy4ciwez111zy38e13zy6o8a6y1354c costs 36 gliders (true).
#CLL state-numbering golly
x = 333, y = 54, rule = B3/S23
237bo$189bo45bobo4bo$190b2o44b2o5b2o13bo63bo$189b2o51b2o12b3o51bo
9b3o$255bo54b3o6bo$255b2o56bo5b2o$187b2o52bo70b2o$186bobo52b2o2b3o
$132b2o54bo6b2o43bobo4bo12b2o62b2o$73bo58bo62bo50bo13bo63bo$72bo
57bobo60bobo62bobo61bobo$65bo6b3o55b2o61b2o63b2o62b2o$64b2o$64bobo
$57b3o$59bo271bo$58bo17bo61b3o60b3o62b3o46bobo11bo2bo$76bobo58b3o
60b3o62b3o48b2o3bo7bo2bo$76b2o238bo4bobo6bo$71b3o70bo176b2o$71bo
63bo7bo186bo$72bo60bobo7b3o31bo22b3o62b3o61bo2bo$134b2o42bo22b3o
62b3o60bo2bo$139b3o34b3o152bo$139bo104b2o62b2o$140bo57bo45b2o62b2o
$181b3o15bo$181bo15b3o$114bo67bo82b2o62b2o$115bo149b2o62b2o$113b3o
86b3o102bo$119b2o56b3o22bo39b3o61bo2bo$44bo64b3o7bobo56b3o22bo39b
3o60bo2bo$45bo65bo7bo188bo$43b3o64bo205b2o$39b2o267bo6bobo4bo$38bo
bo74b3o60b3o62b3o60bo2bo7bo3b2o$40bo73b3o60b3o62b3o61bo2bo11bobo$
6bo300bo$5bo$5b3o$obo$b2o39b3o9b2o67b2o61b2o63b2o62b2o$bo42bo8bobo
66bobo60bobo62bobo61bobo$43bo9bo68bo62bo64bo13bo49bo$52b2o67b2o61b
2o6bo56b2o12bo4bobo42b2o$192bobo68b3o2b2o$192b2o75bo55b2o$254b2o
62b2o5bo$255bo63bo6b3o$190b2o60b3o12b2o47b3o9bo$189b2o61bo13b2o5b
2o41bo$191bo76bo4bobo$273bo!
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Re: Catagolue Oddities

Post by iddi01 » May 13th, 2024, 8:28 am

Crossposting the negative growth oddity:
iddi01 wrote:
May 6th, 2024, 8:28 am
Weirdest apgcode linear growth: yl130_1_-4_701e9d64c6526dcf9ba48abb7962c2ec (is this a bug or something?)

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x = 16, y = 16, rule = B3-n/S1e2-a3-e4e
bboobobbbbooobbo$
bobobboboobboboo$
obobboobobbobobo$
obbobboobobbbbbb$
boobobooobooobbb$
oboooooooooobobb$
bbbbobbobbboobbo$
oobbobbbbbbbobbo$
oooobobooobbooob$
obobbbboboobbobo$
boooobobooobbbbo$
bbbbbbooboboobob$
boooobobobbbbobo$
bboobobbbbbooobb$
bbobobbboobbbboo$
ooboobobbbobbobo!
Also, this is an apgsearch oddity, but i think it still belongs here:
apgerr.png
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When left running on an unapgsearchable rule for several hours, it starts repeatedly outputting the stuff in the image.
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First gun i constructed:

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x = 69, y = 69, rule = B3-n/S1e2-a3-e4e
2$32b3o$32bobo$32bobo$32b3o27$63b4o$b4o58bo2bo$bo2bo23bo4b2o28b4o$b4o
21bobo$28bo21$35bo$34b3o6$33b3o$33bobo$33bobo$33b3o!

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Re: Catagolue Oddities

Post by hotdogPi » May 20th, 2024, 9:02 am

Someone on Discord has found that the "B0 indicator" for determining whether odd periods can exist or not is determined solely by whether the rule begins with "b0". https://catagolue.hatsya.com/object/xp2 ... tawayazav2 is a false positive despite being a custom rule. I would guess B130/anything is a false negative, but I haven't checked.
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Periods discovered: 5-16,⑱,⑳G,㉑G,㉒㉔㉕,㉗-㉛,㉜SG,㉞㉟㊱㊳㊵㊷㊹㊺㊽㊿,54G,55G,56,57G,60,62-66,68,70,73,74S,75,76S,80,84,88,90,96
100,02S,06,08,10,12,14G,16,17G,20,26G,28,38,44,47,48,54,56,72,74,80,92,96S
217,486,576

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