Catagolue Discussion Thread
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On the other hand, that soup does mean that it is possible for a 2-engine cordership to show up in Catagolue, we'll get one eventually.
Edit: So, in other words, "Theoretically natural".
Edit: So, in other words, "Theoretically natural".
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Randomness is evil.
calcyman wrote: ↑September 23rd, 2020, 12:52 pmBecause if you just said "appeared from a 16x16 soup", then Macbi's engineered-using-SAT-solvers soup would qualify the 2-engine Cordership as natural:
and a good way to prevent this sort of funny business is to use a cryptographic hash function.Code: Select all
x = 16, y = 16, rule = B3/S23 o2bob2o$o3b2ob2o2bob2o$bo2bo4bo3bobo$10b4o$2b2obo3bobobo$o4b4o3bob2o$ 4b2o2b3o2bo$b2o2bo2bo6bo$4b2o2b2o3bobo$3o2b2o2b2o4bo$ob2ob2o2b2obo$o2b obo4b2obo$3ob2ob2o4b3o$o2bob2o2bo3bobo$3o4bo3b2ob2o$b2obo2b4obo2bo!
So everything is "theoretically natural" until we census all...2^256 soups. Uh, that's 78 digits long.
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anythingsonata wrote:July 2nd, 2020, 8:33 pmconwaylife signatures are amazing[citation needed]
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Every finite pattern is "theoretically natural" if the soups are large enough.
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I guess I meant theoretically natural from a 16 by 16 soup.
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has anyone created a (mildly) sparselife symmetry?
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Not sure if this is what you might want.
Oscillator discussion is boring me out. I'll return when the cgol community switches to something else.
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appspot.com is the Google App Engine. Having Catagolue's main domain under a Google site is a bad idea for the Chinese users. Moving to catagolue.hatsya.com allows access to Catagolue for everyone.
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anythingsonata wrote:July 2nd, 2020, 8:33 pmconwaylife signatures are amazing[citation needed]
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Yes. I don't understand it either.
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anythingsonata wrote:July 2nd, 2020, 8:33 pmconwaylife signatures are amazing[citation needed]
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I can't use it.
also, is this a bug?
catagolue wrote: b3s23/synthesis-costs-2020-04-15 (1 objects)
b3s23/synthesis-costs-2020-04-25 (1 objects)
b3s23/synthesis-costs-2020-05-05 (1 objects)
b3s23/synthesis-costs-2020-05-15 (1 objects)
b3s23/synthesis-costs-2020-05-25 (1 objects)
b3s23/synthesis-costs-2020-06-05 (1 objects)
b3s23/synthesis-costs-2020-06-15 (1 objects)
b3s23/synthesis-costs-2020-06-25 (1 objects)
b3s23/synthesis-costs-2020-07-05 (1 objects)
b3s23/synthesis-costs-2020-07-15 (1 objects)
b3s23/synthesis-costs-2020-07-25 (1 objects)
b3s23/synthesis-costs-2020-08-05 (1 objects)
b3s23/synthesis-costs-2020-08-15 (1 objects)
b3s23/synthesis-costs-2020-08-25 (1 objects)
b3s23/synthesis-costs-2020-09-05 (1 objects)
b3s23/synthesis-costs-2020-09-15 (1 objects)
b3s23/synthesis-costs-2020-09-25 (1 objects)
Rule modifier
B34kz5e7c8/S23-a4ityz5k
b2n3-q5y6cn7s23-k4c8
B3-kq6cn8/S2-i3-a4ciyz8
B3-kq4z5e7c8/S2-ci3-a4ciq5ek6eik7
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B34kz5e7c8/S23-a4ityz5k
b2n3-q5y6cn7s23-k4c8
B3-kq6cn8/S2-i3-a4ciyz8
B3-kq4z5e7c8/S2-ci3-a4ciq5ek6eik7
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Nope, those are backups of synthesis-costs made every 10 days. They may have gotten a bit cluttery on the B3/S23 rule page over time, but it's not a bug.
EDIT: Adam has disabled the display of backups in this commit.
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Can a way be added to access asymmetric-soups from the main rule page: https://catagolue.hatsya.com/census/b3s23
Help wanted: How can we accurately notate any 1D replicator?
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Hatsya.co.uk is not very stable in mainland china either.
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Just an FYI. Last night, someone created and submitted hauls to b3s23/C1 with these user names:
The LifeWiki contains one of the most comprehensive catalogues of patterns available on the internet
For ADs messege(long mesagge), minimum size of hauls must be set to increase the cost of spamming
to prevent vandalize and mischief, protecting the server from crash, some rules should be set
the cost of attack is hauls size of 2000+ , only need half second in a single core computer
a simple bash script can automatically scroll messages
The LifeWiki contains one of the most comprehensive catalogues of patterns available on the internet
For ADs messege(long mesagge), minimum size of hauls must be set to increase the cost of spamming
to prevent vandalize and mischief, protecting the server from crash, some rules should be set
the cost of attack is hauls size of 2000+ , only need half second in a single core computer
a simple bash script can automatically scroll messages
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Nice theme calcyman!!
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Those are strange usernames, I wonder if somebody accidentally piped that text accidentally went to Catagolue instead of trolling.John Goodman wrote: ↑November 19th, 2020, 8:56 amJust an FYI. Last night, someone created and submitted hauls to b3s23/C1 with these user names:
The LifeWiki contains one of the most comprehensive catalogues of patterns available on the internet
For ADs messege(long mesagge), minimum size of hauls must be set to increase the cost of spamming
to prevent vandalize and mischief, protecting the server from crash, some rules should be set
the cost of attack is hauls size of 2000+ , only need half second in a single core computer
a simple bash script can automatically scroll messages
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Nah, it seems like somebody is sort of kind of trying to be a white hat hacker, by demonstrating a weakness in the current Catagolue haul system. The above is a sample of a "scrolling message" that could be any message that a spammer might want to have displayed (to our huge captive user base).Scorbie wrote: ↑December 7th, 2020, 6:58 amThose are strange usernames, I wonder if somebody accidentally piped that text accidentally went to Catagolue instead of trolling.John Goodman wrote: ↑November 19th, 2020, 8:56 amJust an FYI. Last night, someone created and submitted hauls to b3s23/C1 with these user names:
The LifeWiki contains one of the most comprehensive catalogues of patterns available on the internet
For ADs messege(long mesagge), minimum size of hauls must be set to increase the cost of spamming
to prevent vandalize and mischief, protecting the server from crash, some rules should be set
the cost of attack is hauls size of 2000+ , only need half second in a single core computer
a simple bash script can automatically scroll messages
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Apparently you failed to read the sandbox. This is the white hat hacker:dvgrn wrote: ↑December 7th, 2020, 9:22 amNah, it seems like somebody is sort of kind of trying to be a white hat hacker, by demonstrating a weakness in the current Catagolue haul system. The above is a sample of a "scrolling message" that could be any message that a spammer might want to have displayed (to our huge captive user base).Scorbie wrote: ↑December 7th, 2020, 6:58 amThose are strange usernames, I wonder if somebody accidentally piped that text accidentally went to Catagolue instead of trolling.John Goodman wrote: ↑November 19th, 2020, 8:56 amJust an FYI. Last night, someone created and submitted hauls to b3s23/C1 with these user names:
The LifeWiki contains one of the most comprehensive catalogues of patterns available on the internet
For ADs messege(long mesagge), minimum size of hauls must be set to increase the cost of spamming
to prevent vandalize and mischief, protecting the server from crash, some rules should be set
the cost of attack is hauls size of 2000+ , only need half second in a single core computer
a simple bash script can automatically scroll messages
https://conwaylife.com/forums/viewtopic ... 89#p111589
I really don't see why would someone vandalize catagolue though.
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There's currently a bug in which all of Google seems to be broken if you're logged in, which affects Catagolue as well.
You can avoid this by opening Catagolue in an 'Incognito tab' in Chrome or a 'private window' in Firefox.
You can avoid this by opening Catagolue in an 'Incognito tab' in Chrome or a 'private window' in Firefox.
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It appears that a total of 999.4 trillion objects were contributed from asymmetric soups (C1 and G1). We are definitely inching closer and closer to 10^15 objects.
C1 may reach 10^15 objects in January 2021 if soup-searching remains at its current pace.
C1 may reach 10^15 objects in January 2021 if soup-searching remains at its current pace.
B2n3-jn/S1c23-y is an interesting rule. It has a replicator, a fake glider, an OMOS and SMOS, a wide variety of oscillators, and some signals. Also this rule is omniperiodic.
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Indeed, 10^15 objects is definitely coming in C1.
What's more of an unknown is when all 15-bit still lifes will have shown up. After a large burst of seven found in the first quarter of 2020, progress has slowed to a trickle, with just a single new xs15 turning up since then.
Here's a graph. Anyone care to make a prediction on when the last one will be found? I'll make a WAG and say... mid-2026.
What's more of an unknown is when all 15-bit still lifes will have shown up. After a large burst of seven found in the first quarter of 2020, progress has slowed to a trickle, with just a single new xs15 turning up since then.
Here's a graph. Anyone care to make a prediction on when the last one will be found? I'll make a WAG and say... mid-2026.
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Yes: go to the object page, then replace 'object' with 'attribute', then append '/ikpx2_stdin' to the URL:
https://catagolue.hatsya.com/attribute/ ... kpx2_stdin
It looks like they're owned by inspirehep (a.k.a. Dylan Chen).
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