The theory behind Primer?
The theory behind Primer?
Hello everyone!
Shortly after being introduced to Conway's Game of life I came across primer recently (http://conwaylife.com/wiki/Primer).
I am fascinated by how the complexity of the system and the cleverness of Dean Hickerson.
Is there any way to understand why the primer would work? What prime number generating algorithm is involved in primer and what are the purpose of the various components?
Thank you so much indeed!
Shortly after being introduced to Conway's Game of life I came across primer recently (http://conwaylife.com/wiki/Primer).
I am fascinated by how the complexity of the system and the cleverness of Dean Hickerson.
Is there any way to understand why the primer would work? What prime number generating algorithm is involved in primer and what are the purpose of the various components?
Thank you so much indeed!
Re: The theory behind Primer?
It uses a simplified version of the Sieve of Eratosthenes.
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Re: The theory behind Primer?
More details: LWSSes moving to west represent integers 2,3,4... Gliders bouncing between reflectors are deleting LWSSes when they hit lower line of reflectors. In such way nth glider deletes LWSS with number corresponding to numbers divisible by n+1 expect for n+1. First glider deletes number 2,4,6,8..., second one 6,9,12,15... Some numbers are in more then one sequence, but if it is in at least one sequence it is deleted. This leaves LWSSes with numbers 2,3,5,7,11... There are 7 main components: 3 breeders creating glider guns used as reflectors, rake shooting LWSS representing numbers, puffer leaving glider eaters, rake shooting gliders between reflector and last but not least, pentadecathlon in lower left corner. First primer is designed in such way that glider can destroy only every third LWSS. Other ones survive independently on corresponding number. Pentadecathlon allows only every third LWSS. Sometimes it is missing, if corresponding number is composite.
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Re: The theory behind Primer?
Wojowu: Thank you so much for your detailed explanation! I seem to have a much clearer understanding to the mechanism of primer : )
However, as you pointed out that the first primer is designed in such way that glider can destroy only every third LWSS  which implies the LWSSes moving to west don't actually represent integers 2, 3, 4... but rather 2, 2.5, 3, 3.66.., 4.33..., 5, 5.66..., 6.33..., 7, 7.66..., 8.33..., 9, ... In other words, even integers (except 2) never truly represented in the first primer. Please correct me if I am wrong!
Since the first primer seems to use some weird representation of numbers, which complicates thing a little bit  Is there any other prime number generating pattern that use better representations? (i.e. with LWSSes moving to west represent integers 2, 3, 4 as you mentioned!)
Thank you so much once again! : D
However, as you pointed out that the first primer is designed in such way that glider can destroy only every third LWSS  which implies the LWSSes moving to west don't actually represent integers 2, 3, 4... but rather 2, 2.5, 3, 3.66.., 4.33..., 5, 5.66..., 6.33..., 7, 7.66..., 8.33..., 9, ... In other words, even integers (except 2) never truly represented in the first primer. Please correct me if I am wrong!
Since the first primer seems to use some weird representation of numbers, which complicates thing a little bit  Is there any other prime number generating pattern that use better representations? (i.e. with LWSSes moving to west represent integers 2, 3, 4 as you mentioned!)
Thank you so much once again! : D
Re: The theory behind Primer?
Here you have 4 primer patterns: http://www.radicaleye.com/DRH/primer.html On another topic skomick gave also another primer, for me very interesting
Expect for first one on Dean Hickerson's site all ships represent exact numbers, without any fractions. All use same prime number sieve as first primer. It is easiest approach, another ones include testing divisibility by 2,3 and all 6n±1, yet another one is testing 30n±a for a=1,7,11,13, and most efficient one (in computer science, not Life) is testing divisibility by primes smaller than sqrt(n), but Life pattern doing that probably must use Universal Computer. Another primality test possible in life uses Wilson's theorem (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilson%27s_theorem) but it is veeery slow one for big numbers. Probabilistic tests are unimportant for us, and any other tests (like AKS or deterministic MillerRabin) really need Computer, mainly because of almost simultaneous logarithms, powers, roots, floors, modulus and totient function. I don't always write such long posts, but when I do, I always exhaust a subject
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Re: The theory behind Primer?
I got it now!
Thank you so much Wojowu
Thank you so much Wojowu

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Re: The theory behind Primer?
Some more details:
The prime number patterns all work by testing odd numbers for odd factors. None of them tests even numbers. Some small numbers, like 2, are handled as special cases (i.e., totally faked).
They work by constructing a row of oscillators (or oscillating components) of everincreasing periods, each representing an odd factor. The oscillators consist of a glider bouncing between two reflectors, so the period can be increased simply by lengthening the glider's path. One of the reflectors is designed so that a passing spaceship can be deleted when a reflection occurs.
Assuming the "slowdown factor" is 60, we need:
 A "3" oscillator, which deletes spaceships representing 9, 15, 21, .... (159)*60 = 360, so it should have period 360.
 A "5" oscillator, which deletes spaceships representing 15, 25, 35, .... (period 600)
 A "7" oscillator, which deletes spaceships representing 21, 35, 49, .... (period 840)
 A "9" oscillator, which deletes spaceships representing 27, 45, 63, .... (period 1080)
Etc.
Note that each oscillator is needed only a finite number of times, up to the spaceship representing its square. The "3" oscillator is needed only once, for the number 9, so it's probably not worth constructing it at all. 9 is handled as a special case.
The hardest part of building such a pattern is actually the mundane business of finding a usable pair of 180degree glider reflectors. There are a lot of requirements they must satisfy.
The prime number patterns all work by testing odd numbers for odd factors. None of them tests even numbers. Some small numbers, like 2, are handled as special cases (i.e., totally faked).
They work by constructing a row of oscillators (or oscillating components) of everincreasing periods, each representing an odd factor. The oscillators consist of a glider bouncing between two reflectors, so the period can be increased simply by lengthening the glider's path. One of the reflectors is designed so that a passing spaceship can be deleted when a reflection occurs.
Assuming the "slowdown factor" is 60, we need:
 A "3" oscillator, which deletes spaceships representing 9, 15, 21, .... (159)*60 = 360, so it should have period 360.
 A "5" oscillator, which deletes spaceships representing 15, 25, 35, .... (period 600)
 A "7" oscillator, which deletes spaceships representing 21, 35, 49, .... (period 840)
 A "9" oscillator, which deletes spaceships representing 27, 45, 63, .... (period 1080)
Etc.
Note that each oscillator is needed only a finite number of times, up to the spaceship representing its square. The "3" oscillator is needed only once, for the number 9, so it's probably not worth constructing it at all. 9 is handled as a special case.
The hardest part of building such a pattern is actually the mundane business of finding a usable pair of 180degree glider reflectors. There are a lot of requirements they must satisfy.
Re: The theory behind Primer?
Not necessarily — a fairly compact sqrtgun has been built, an array of them just needs to be converted into a slidefactory setting up the sieve.Wojowu wrote:and most efficient one (in computer science, not Life) is testing divisibility by primes smaller than sqrt(n), but Life pattern doing that probably must use Universal Computer.
(Probably most things that can be done with a universal computer, can be also done with a specialized apparatus that is smaller or faster.)