Speed Demonoid

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Speed Demonoid

Post by Pavgran » September 9th, 2020, 6:07 am

Let's move the discussion of the building of the Speed Demonoid to the new thread instead of posting everything in One Glider Seeds.
dvgrn wrote:
September 8th, 2020, 2:58 pm
Pavgran wrote:
September 8th, 2020, 4:00 am
calcyman wrote:Why can't we just replace the green side with a reflected copy of the blue side? That way, the reaction envelopes will be completely disjoint.
We can. But that variant has smaller bounding box and is therefore probably cheaper to construct. It also has better clearance for gliders traveling along the wick, though I think these gliders will be sent before building this seed.
Hang on -- once we have to add another object to the boat anyway, to suppress that awkward glider, we really might as well just use a completely different pair of objects to do the ignition. This is just from one possible octohash search of many:

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x = 44, y = 53, rule = LifeSuper
34.3M$36.M$35.M$32.2M$32.M2$30.M3.2M$29.M.M2.2M5.3M$28.M.M3.M.M6.M$
27.M.M6.2M4.M$13.3M10.M.M6.M.4M$15.M9.M.M10.2M$14.M9.M.M8.M$23.M.M8.M
.M$22.M.M8.M.M$21.M.M8.M.M$20.M.M8.M.M$19.M.M8.M.M$18.M.M8.M.M$16.HG.
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If we're really lucky, maybe we can find two constellations that both fit on the same side of the wickstretcher somehow, leaving the NW side completely clear for sending gliders along the wick.
Well, boat+block is kinda cheaper than boat+long boat. And I sometimes can't resist these kind of small optimization even if it is very small compared to other things.

Some of my thoughts regarding the overall blueprint:
Why can't we interchange the splitter and the Snark? Something like this:

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x = 296, y = 255, rule = LifeSuper
135.3P2.3P2.4P2.2P$135.P.P2.P2.P.P4.P$135.P.P2.P2.P.3P2.P.2P$135.P.P
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I can't think of any immediate problems with this design. There is a certain difficulty with build order: the splitter has to be built before the Snark, and it's recipe can't touch the arm block the Snark recipe will use, but that's not very hard to do.

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Re: Speed Demonoid

Post by dvgrn » September 9th, 2020, 12:25 pm

Pavgran wrote:
September 9th, 2020, 6:07 am
Why can't we interchange the splitter and the Snark? ...
I can't think of any immediate problems with this design. There is a certain difficulty with build order: the splitter has to be built before the Snark, and it's recipe can't touch the arm block the Snark recipe will use, but that's not very hard to do.
Yeah, it will be cheap enough to move the Snark-recipe target block out of the way whenever that's necessary. If we ask slsparse nicely by dropping a 32-bit long^N boat where the block is, maybe it won't even be necessary at all. A 0-degree recipe for the Scorbie Splitter will be all on one side of the single-channel lane, but it looks like the farthest-SW catalyst will be around 80hd away so it should just barely compile okay.

The only problem I can see is that the 21 slow gliders following the wickstretcher would have to be built with a slow^2 elbow or a seed constellation.
That doesn't seem like an insurmountable issue. It might well be cheaper to build that 21-glider seed constellation than to include a Snarkmaker recipe. Or maybe find some smaller number of synchronized gliders that could do the cleanup, and build a seed for that salvo instead?

Cleanup, Revisited
Below I'm quoting the GoL-destroy part of the previous blueprint from the One-Glider Seeds thread, but I've replaced the pattern with something equivalent that would work with this new version with the Snark and Scorbie Splitter reversed:
dvgrn wrote:
September 8th, 2020, 2:58 pm
Does anyone want to try running simeks' GoL-destroy against a Scorbie Splitter, to see if we can get a version that's 1G-destructable?

1G-destructable Snarks are easy, because one LWSS can clean up a Snark. Here's a possible Scorbie Splitter blueprint that could be run through GoL-destroy:

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x = 3111, y = 3123, rule = LifeHistory
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Basically you feed in the red glider and the blue regions to GoL-destroy -- except maybe you'd widen the blue region by one cell diagonally to be safe, if I remember right (which I might not). The non-blue area is where GoL-destroy can safely drop in small "bait" still lifes that help the Scorbie Splitter self-destruct completely cleanly. It should only take four or five bait objects, half a dozen at most.

Zoom out on the above pattern to see a trial blueprint showing roughly how all this might work. It's not really to scale. The wickstretcher and the 21 slow gliders would actually have been built by the southwestmost Scorbie Splitter that we're looking at.

The red glider would be produced at the very end of the cycle, by a TRIGGER2 signal (the white glider that starts in the far southwest) that follows along behind the Scorbie Splitter and Snark single-channel recipes (represented by the yellow glider also in the far southwest). TRIGGER2 would also have lit the trailing fuse. The leading fuse would have been lit a long time earlier by a separate TRIGGER1 signal (not shown).

Notice that the burning fuses and 21-glider salvo eventually produce two widely separated target blocks, one near each of the red-marked areas showing where the next Snark and Scorbie Splitter will have to be constructed.
Another splitter and some turners will have to be added, to follow the red dotted line to produce an output TRIGGER2 signal in exactly the right place relative to the last signal in the recipe stream. I'm guessing this will need some more rework, because there probably aren't any turners fast enough to get there in time. It's easy to do something different with the Snark cleanup and get a trailing TRIGGER2 glider closer to the recipe stream.

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Re: Speed Demonoid

Post by dvgrn » September 9th, 2020, 10:41 pm

dvgrn wrote:
September 9th, 2020, 12:25 pm
Another splitter and some turners will have to be added, to follow the red dotted line to produce an output TRIGGER2 signal in exactly the right place relative to the last signal in the recipe stream. I'm guessing this will need some more rework, because there probably aren't any turners fast enough to get there in time. It's easy to do something different with the Snark cleanup and get a trailing TRIGGER2 glider closer to the recipe stream.
Here's a better proof-of-concept for TRIGGER2. All of this can be improved quite a bit. The Scorbie Splitter cleanup was hacked together in five minutes with the Seeds of Destruction Game. (This kind of problem was exactly the original purpose of the SoDGame, after all.)

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4B3.4B$1018.12B5.2A3.B2C4B.4B29.10BCB3.4B.6B$1017.14B.5B3.BCBC7B31.8B
CBC4.10B$1017.18B5.2B2C6B33.7B2CB5.9B$1016.22B2.11B34.7B6.9B$1016.23B
.11B33.8B8.7B$1014.2AB.22B3.9B31.4B2.B11.4BC2B$1013.A.AB.23B3.4B2C2B
30.4B16.2BCBCB$1013.A4.22B5.3BC.C2B28.4B18.B2C2B$1007.2A3.2A5.20B7.3B
2CB28.4B19.4B$1007.2A11.19B7.6B$1019.21B6.4B$1017.2AB.15B.4B4.4B28.4B
9.B$1016.A.AB3.10B5.4B2.4B28.4B9.4B$1016.A6.10B6.8B28.4B9.4B$1015.2A
5.13B5.4B30.2B11.4B$1021.15B5.4B28.3B3.3B4.4B$1012.2A6.16B6.4B32.5B2.
4B$1011.A2.A4.17B7.4B31.5B.4B4.2B$1012.2A6.16B8.4B29.10B2.5B$1021.13B
11.4B27.19B$1021.5B2A2B.3B12.4B25.20B$1023.3B2A2B2.4B11.4B24.19B$
1023.8B3.2A12.4B23.10B2C7B$1022.8B4.A14.4B23.8BCBC8B$1022.8B5.3A12.4B
22.7BCBC8B$1022.7B8.A13.4B22.7BC7B$1022.7B18.2A3.4B22.9B$1023.6B7.A9.
A.A4.4B4.B17.7B$1017.2A4.6B6.A.A8.2A6.4B2.2B18.6B$1016.A2.A4.5B6.A.A
17.7B19.2C2B$1016.A.A5.6B4.2A.3A16.6B18.C.C3B$1017.A5.6B6.B4.A8.A7.4B
20.C5B$1023.7B3.B2AB3A8.A.A5.6B22.4B$1024.8B.B2A.A11.2A4.8B25.D$1024.
10B20.4B2.4B25.D$1023.3B2A6B19.4B4.3B23.3D$1017.2A5.2B2A6B18.4B6.2B$
1018.A5.10B17.4B8.B$1018.A.AB2.11B15.4B$1012.2A5.2AB.12B14.4B$1012.2A
7.15B12.4B$1021.16B10.4B$1021.16B.2B6.4B$1021.18B2A4.4B$1020.17B.B2A
3.4B$1019.4B2.8B.4B.B3.4B$1018.4B4.7B9.4B$1017.4B5.6B9.4B$1016.4B6.4B
10.4B$1015.4B5.A3B11.4B$1014.4B5.A.AB11.4B$1013.4B6.A.A11.4B$1012.4B
8.A11.4B$1011.4B6.3A11.4B$1010.4B7.A12.4B$1009.4B20.4B$1008.4B14.2A4.
4B$1007.4B15.2A3.4B$1006.4B20.4B$1005.4B20.4B$1004.4B20.4B$1003.4B20.
4B$1002.4B20.4B$1001.4B20.4B$1000.4B$999.4B$998.4B$997.4B95.D$1095.2B
D$1095.3D551$1675.D$1676.D$1674.3D8$1703.B$1702.2B$1701.3B$1685.4B11.
4B$1686.4B9.4B$1687.4B7.4B$1688.4B5.4B20.4B$1689.4B.4B2CB19.4B$1690.
7BCBCB18.4B$1691.6B2C3B16.4B$1690.12B15.4B$1690.11B15.4B$1689.9B17.4B
$1689.2B2C4B17.4B$1688.2BCBC3B17.4B$1689.B2C3B17.4B$1689.6B16.4B$
1710.4B$1709.4B$1708.4B$1693.5B9.4B$1695.4B7.4B$1696.4B5.4B$1697.4B3.
4B$1683.D14.4B.4B$1682.2BD8.2BA3.2B.4B$1682.3DB7.3A5.4B$1683.4B4.BAB
6.4B$1684.4B2.2B2A5.4B.2B$1685.9B4.4B.4B$1686.8B3.4B3.4B$1686.9B.4B5.
4B$1684.15B7.4B$1683.15B9.4B$1682.15B11.5B$1681.B2A12B13.8B$1681.A.A
5B2A7B12.8B$1679.2BA7B2A7B12.8B$1678.2B2AB.15B9.12B$1678.5B3.14B8.9B
2CB$1679.3B4.8BA5B9.8B2C$1686.4B2ABABA3B12.7B$1686.3BABABABA3B12.6B$
1686.A2BABABABAB2AB11.5B$1685.B4AB2A2BA2BA4B7.3B2CB$1686.4BA4B2A6B6.
4B2C$1686.2BABA12B5.4B$1686.2B2A14B3.4B$1687.23B$1689.2B3.15B$1695.
13B$1695.C12B$1694.C.C12B$1694.C.C2B2C8B$1695.C3B2C7B$1695.11B$1697.
2B2.5B$1696.B2C2.4B$1697.2C324$52.B$51.2B$50.3B$49.4B$48.4B$19.2B26.
4B$18.2CB25.4B$17.B2C3B22.4B$16.8B20.4B$14.10B19.4B$13.2C9B18.4B$13.
2C9B17.4B$13.12B15.4B$12.13B14.4B$11.4B3.8B12.4B$10.4B4.3B2.4B10.4B$
5.2B2.4B6.2B3.4B8.4B$4.8B13.4B6.4B$4.7B15.4B4.4B$2.9B16.4B2.4B$.10B
17.3B.4B$.11B17.B.4B20.4B$.14B15.4B20.4B$.14B14.4B.B13.2B3.4B$3.B2C9B
13.4B.3B11.9B$3.B2C10B2.2B7.4B2.4B10.3B2C3B$2C12B2A5B5.4B4.4B9.2BCBC
2B$2C13BA7B2.4B6.4B7.3B2C2B$.B.2B2C6BA9B.4B8.3B6.7B$3.BC2.C5B5A9B5.2A
3.2B5.8B$5.2C2.9BA9B4.AB4.B3.10B$10.5B3A12BABAB4.B3.9B$10.4BA15B2A10.
2B2C6B$10.4B4A14B10.BCBC7B$9.3B2A3BA3B2A8B11.B2C4B.4B$9.2BA2B3A4B2A7B
12.5B4.4B$10.B2ABA15B14.B7.4B$10.4BA16B22.3B$11.3B2A16B22.2B$14.B5.7B
2.4B22.B$20.7B3.2B2A$21.B2A2B5.BABA$19.3B.AB7.AB$18.2B3AB$18.2BAB$18.
4B$19.2B2$66.2C$66.C.C$66.C!
#C [[ X -522 Y 526 Z 4 STEP 50 STOP 4500 ]]
Here the white glider in the far southwest is the TRIGGER2 glider, and the green glider is the final glider in the Demonoid's construction recipe. TRIGGER2 can actually follow at any distance behind the recipe gliders; the timing of the one-time turners ensures that wherever it is, it will always stay in the same place.

The OTT constellations can definitely be tightened up quite a bit also. It's probably a good idea not to get too attached to these particular placements, at least until we've proven that a 0-degree recipe can build the whole Scorbie Splitter constellation at this width.

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Re: Speed Demonoid

Post by Pavgran » September 10th, 2020, 6:05 am

I've also made a GoL-destroy file for the Scorbie Splitter.

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x = 98, y = 103, rule = LifeHistory
98B$98B$98B$98B$98B$98B$98B$98B$98B$98B$15B37D10B9D27B$15B36D10B10D
27B$15B35D10B11D27B$15B34D10B12D27B$15B33D10B13D27B$15B32D10B14D27B$
15B31D10B15D27B$15B30D10B16D27B$15B29D10B17D27B$15B28D10B18D27B$15B
27D10B19D27B$15B26D10B20D27B$15B25D10B21D27B$15B20D14B22D27B$15B19D
14B4D3B16D27B$15B18D14B3D6B15D27B$15B18D13B3D4BA2B15D27B$15B17D15BD3B
3A2B15D27B$15B16D19BA5B15D27B$15B15D20B2A3B16D27B$15B15D24B17D27B$15B
14D26B16D27B$15B13D28B15D27B$15B12D30B14D27B$15B11D3B2A27B13D27B$15B
11D2BABA27B13D27B$15B10D3BA29B13D27B$15B10D2B2A28B14D27B$15B10D32B14D
27B$15B11D32B13D27B$15B14D3B2A25B12D27B$15B14D2BABA26B11D27B$15B13D3B
A29B10D27B$15B13D2B2A30B9D27B$15B13D35B8D27B$15B14D35B7D27B$15B17D21B
2D10B6D27B$15B17D21B3D10B5D27B$15B18D20B4D10B4D27B$15B19D7B2A10B5D10B
3D27B$15B19D7B2A10B6D10B2D27B$15B20D14B2A3B6D10BD27B$15B20D14BA5B6D
37B$15B20D15B3A2B7D36B$15B20D17BA2B8D35B$15B20D20B9D34B$15B20D16BA3B
10D33B$15B21D14BABA3B10D32B$15B21D14BABA4B10D31B$15B21D13B2AB3A3B10D
30B$15B21D19BA2B11D29B$15B21D13B2AB3A3B12D28B$15B21D13B2ABA4B14D27B$
15B16D25B15D27B$15B15D11B2A11B17D27B$7B3A5B15D2B2A7B2A9B19D27B$9BA5B
15D3BA18B19D27B$8BA6B16D2BABA16B19D27B$15B16D3B2A17B18D27B$15B17D24B
15D27B$15B18D24B14D27B$15B19D24B13D27B$15B18D21B2A2B13D27B$15B17D22B
2A2B13D27B$15B16D27B13D27B$15B15D27B14D27B$15B14D27B15D27B$15B13D21B
22D27B$15B12D12BA8B23D27B$15B11D12BABA5B25D27B$15B10D13BABA3B27D27B$
15B9D15BA3B28D27B$15B8D13B3A3B29D27B$15B7D10B2D2BA4B30D27B$15B6D10B3D
6B31D27B$15B5D10B5D3B33D27B$15B4D10B42D27B$15B3D10B43D27B$15B2D10B44D
27B$15BD10B45D27B$25B46D27B$24B47D27B$23B48D27B$22B49D27B$21B50D27B$
98B$98B$89B2A7B$89B2A7B$98B$98B$98B$98B!
Launched it to work overnight, and it came out with this solution:

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x = 154, y = 112, rule = LifeHistory
116.A$114.3A$113.A$113.2A5$92.2A$91.A.A$91.A$90.2A3$95.2A$94.A.A$94.A
$93.2A6$104.2A$96.C7.2A$95.C.C14.2A$95.2C15.A$113.3A$115.A2$114.A$97.
2C14.A.A$96.C.C14.A.A$97.C14.2A.3A$118.A$112.2A.3A$112.2A.A5.2C$121.C
.C4.C$104.2A16.C4.C.C$95.2A7.2A20.C2.C$96.A30.2C$96.A.A$97.2A4$117.2A
$117.2A4$119.2C$102.A16.2C$101.A.A$101.A.A$90.2A10.A$89.A.A7.3A$91.A
7.A14$152.2A$152.2A37$3A$2.A$.A!
I don't know if the output glider timing is good enough. It is delayed by 38 ticks compared to the input glider.

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Re: Speed Demonoid

Post by dvgrn » September 10th, 2020, 8:29 am

Pavgran wrote:
September 10th, 2020, 6:05 am
I've also made a GoL-destroy file for the Scorbie Splitter....
I don't know if the output glider timing is good enough. It is delayed by 38 ticks compared to the input glider.
Looks great to me! Here's a quick initial revision of the blueprint based on those very nice GoL-destroy results:

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x = 3166, y = 3872, rule = LifeHistory
3151.2D$3151.2D41$3112.2B$3111.3B$3110.4B$3109.4B$3108.4B$3107.4B$
3106.4B$3105.4B$3104.4B$3103.4B$3102.4B$3101.4B$3100.4B$3099.4B$3098.
4B$3097.4B$3096.4B$3095.4B$3094.4B$3093.4B$3092.4B$3091.4B$3090.4B$
3089.4B$3088.4B$3087.4B$3086.4B$3085.4B$3084.4B$3083.4B$3082.4B$3081.
4B$3080.4B$3079.4B$3078.4B$3077.4B$3076.4B$3075.4B$3074.4B$3069.3B.4B
$3068.8B10.D$3068.7B.B7.3D$3068.10B5.D$3066.12B5.2D$3065.14B.5B$3065.
18B$3064.22B$3064.23B$3062.2DB.22B$3061.D.DB.23B$3061.D4.22B$3060.2D
5.20B$3068.19B$3067.21B$3065.2DB.15B.4B$3064.D.DB3.10B5.4B$3064.D6.
10B6.4B$3063.2D5.13B5.4B$3069.15B5.4B$3068.16B6.4B$3067.17B7.4B$3068.
16B8.4B$3069.13B11.4B$3069.5B2D2B.3B12.4B$3066.D4.3B2D2B2.4B11.4B$
3065.D.D3.8B3.2D12.4B$3065.2D3.8B4.D14.4B$3070.8B5.3D12.4B$3070.7B8.D
13.4B$3070.7B23.4B$3071.6B7.D16.4B$3067.2D2.6B6.D.D16.4B$3066.D.D3.5B
6.D.D17.4B$3067.D4.6B4.2D.3D16.4B$3071.6B6.B4.D16.4B$3071.7B3.B2DB3D
18.4B$3072.8B.B2D.D5.2D14.4B$3072.10B9.D.D4.D9.4B$3071.3B2D6B10.D4.D.
D9.4B$3065.2D5.2B2D6B14.D2.D10.4B$3066.D5.10B15.2D12.4B$3066.D.DB2.
11B8.4B17.4B$3067.2DB.12B9.4B17.4B$3069.15B9.4B17.4B$3069.16B9.4B17.
4B$3069.16B.2B7.4B17.4B$3069.18B2D7.4B17.4B$3068.17B.B2D8.4B17.4B$
3067.4B2.8B.4B.B10.4B17.4B$3066.4B4.7B18.4B17.4B$3065.4B5.6B20.4B17.
4B$3064.4B6.4B11.2D10.4B17.4B$3063.4B5.D3B13.2D11.4B17.4B$3062.4B5.D.
DB28.3BD17.4B$3061.4B6.D.D30.DBD18.4B$3060.3DB8.D32.2D19.4B$3059.3BD
6.3D55.4B$3058.3BD7.D58.4B$3057.4B68.4B$3056.4B70.4B$3055.4B72.4B$
3054.4B74.4B$3053.4B76.4B$3052.4B78.4B$3051.4B80.4B$3050.4B82.4B$
3049.4B84.4B$3048.4B86.4B$3047.4B88.4B$3046.4B90.4B$3045.4B92.4B$
3142.4B$3143.4B$3144.4B$3145.4B$3146.4B$3147.4B$3148.4B$3149.4B$3150.
4B$3151.4B$3152.4B$3153.4B$3154.4B$3155.4B$3156.4B$3157.4B$3158.4B$
3159.4B$3160.4B$3161.4B$3162.3BD$3163.DBD$3164.2D16$2970.3D$2969.3BD$
2968.3BD$2967.4B$2966.4B$2965.4B$2964.4B$2963.4B$2962.4B$2961.4B$
2960.4B$2959.4B$2958.4B$2957.4B$2956.4B$2955.4B862$2093.3D$2092.B2.D$
2091.2B.D$2090.3B$2089.4B$2088.4B$2087.4B$2086.4B$2085.4B$2084.4B$
2083.4B$2082.4B$2081.4B$2080.4B$2079.4B$2078.4B$2077.4B$2076.4B$2075.
4B$2074.4B$2073.4B$2072.4B$2071.4B$2070.4B$2067.2D4B$2066.B2D3B$2066.
5B$2065.6B$2064.7B$2063.2D8B27.B$2062.B2D9B25.2B$2041.2E19.12B24.3B$
2042.E21.8B25.4B$2042.E.E19.5B2DB24.4B$2043.2E20.3BDBD2B22.4B$2064.4B
2D2B22.4B$2063.9B21.4B$2060.11B21.4B$2059.12B20.4B$2028.2E29.3B2D6B
20.4B$2029.E30.BDBD7B18.4B$2029.E.E28.B2D4B.4B16.4B$2030.2E28.4B5.4B
14.4B$2059.4B7.4B12.4B$2058.4B9.4B10.4B$2053.2B2.4B11.4B8.4B$2052.8B
13.4B6.4B$2052.7B15.4B4.4B$2050.9B16.4B2.4B$2049.10B17.3B.4B$2049.11B
17.B.4B$2049.14B15.4B$2049.14B14.4B.B$2051.B2D9B13.4B.3B$2051.B2D10B
2.2B7.4B2.4B$2048.2D12B2D5B5.4B4.4B$2048.2D13BD7B2.4B6.4B2D$2049.B.2B
2D6BD9B.4B8.3B2DB$2051.BD2.D5B5D9B5.2D3.5B$2053.2D2.9BD9B4.DB3.6B$
2058.5B3D12BDBDB3.7B$2058.4BD15B2D3.8B2D$2058.4B4D14B2.9B2DB$2057.3B
2D3BD3B2D8B3.12B$2057.2BD2B3D4B2D7B6.8B$2058.B2DBD15B6.8B$2058.4BD16B
4.8B$2059.3B2D16B2.4B$2062.B5.7B2.4B.3B$2068.7B3.B3D.B$2069.B2D2B5.D
3B$2067.3B.DB5.B.D3B$2066.2B3DB5.3B.4B$2066.2BDB6.4B2.4B$2066.4B5.4B
4.4B$2067.2B5.4B6.4B$2073.2D2B8.4B$2071.BDBDB10.4B$2070.BDBDB12.4B$
2070.2BDB14.4B$2069.6B14.4B$2070.4BDB14.4B$2071.2BDBDB14.4B$2071.BDBD
B16.4B$2072.2D3B16.4B$2072.5B17.4B$2074.4B17.4B$2075.4B17.4B$2076.4B
17.4B$2077.4B17.4B$2078.4B17.4B$2079.4B17.4B$2080.4B17.4B$2081.4B17.
4B$2082.4B17.4B$2083.4B$2084.4B$2085.4B$2086.4B$2087.4B$2088.4B$2089.
4B$2090.4B$2091.4B$2092.4B$2093.4B$2094.4B$2095.4B$2096.4B$2097.4B$
2098.4B$2099.4B$2100.4B$2101.4B$2102.4B$2103.4B$2104.4B$2105.4B$2106.
4B$2107.4B$2108.4B$2109.4B$2110.4B$2111.4B$2112.4B$2113.4B$2114.4B$
2115.4B$2116.B3D$2117.D3B$2118.D3B$2119.4B$2120.4B$2121.3B$2122.2B$
2123.B368$1632.A$1631.B2A$1630.BABA$1629.4B$1628.B2AB$1627.2B2A$1626.
4B$1625.2BA3B2A6.A$1624.2BABABA2BA4.B2A$1624.BABA3BAB2A2.BABA$1611.A
12.ABA8B.A3B$1610.B2A10.ABA11BAB$1609.BABA9.A.A.7B2A2BA$1608.4B9.A.A.
B.5BA4B$1607.4B9.A.A4.4BABA2B$1606.4B9.A.A6.B.ABA2B$1605.4B9.A.A8.ABA
2B$1606.2B9.A.A8.A.A$1616.A.A8.A.A$1615.A.A8.A.A$1614.A.A8.A.A$1613.A
.A8.A.A$1612.A.A8.A.A3.A$1611.A.A8.A.A3.B2A$1610.A.A8.A.A3.BABA$1609.
A.A8.A.A3.4B$1608.A.A8.A.A3.4B$1607.A.A8.A.A3.4B$1606.A.A8.A.A3.4B$
1605.A.A8.A.A5.2B$1604.A.A8.A.A$1603.A.A8.A.A$1602.A.A8.A.A$1601.A.A
8.A.A$1600.A.A8.A.A$1599.A.A8.A.A$1598.A.A8.A.A$1597.A.A8.A.A$1596.A.
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4B9.9B2C11.4B32.4B$1654.4B17.4B8.9B2C10.4B32.4B$1655.4B17.4B7.11B9.4B
32.4B$1656.4B17.4B5.13B7.4B32.4B$1657.4B17.4B3.8B3.4B5.4B32.4B$1658.
4B17.4B.4B2.3B4.4B3.4B32.4B$1659.4B17.4B.2B3.2B6.4B.4B32.4B$1660.4B
17.3BD8.2BA3.2B.4B32.4B$1661.4B17.DBDB7.3A5.4B32.4B$1662.4B14.2B.2D2B
4.BAB6.4B32.4B$1663.4B12.4B.4B2.2B2A5.4B.2B29.4B$1664.4B10.4B3.9B4.4B
2.3B27.4B$1665.5B.B5.4B5.8B3.4B3.4B25.4B$1666.5BCB3.4B6.9B.4B5.4B23.
4B$1667.3BCBCB.B2CB5.15B7.4B21.4B$1668.BCBC3BCBC5.15B9.4B11.2B6.4B$
1668.B2C3BCBC5.15B11.4B7.B2.3B4.4B$1670.5BCB4.B2A12B13.4B4.8B3.4B$
1672.4B5.A.A5B2A7B12.4B.4B2C10B$1673.B5.2BA7B2A7B13.7BCBC9B$1678.2B2A
B.15B13.6B2C8B2C$1678.5B3.14B13.15B2C$1679.3B4.8BA5B12.17B$1686.4B2AB
ABA3B13.15B$1686.3BABABABA3B13.7B.3B2CB$1686.A2BABABABAB2AB11.2B2C3B
4.B2C$1685.B4AB2A2BA2BA4B7.2BCBC2B5.2B$1686.4BA4B2A6B6.3B2C3B$1686.2B
ABA12B5.9B$1686.2B2A14B3.4B3.2B$1687.23B$1689.2B3.15B$1695.13B$1695.C
12B$1694.C.C12B$1694.C.C2B2C8B$1695.C3B2C7B$1695.11B$1697.2B2.5B$
1696.B2C2.4B$1697.2C241$135.3D$134.3BD$133.3BD$132.4B$131.4B$130.4B$
129.4B$128.4B$127.4B$126.4B$125.4B$124.4B$123.4B$122.4B$121.4B$120.4B
39$45.3D$44.B2.D$43.2B.D$42.3B$41.4B$40.4B$39.4B$38.4B$37.4B$36.4B$
35.4B$34.4B$33.4B$32.4B$31.4B$30.4B$29.4B$28.4B$27.4B$26.4B$25.4B$24.
4B$23.4B$22.4B$19.2C4B$18.B2C3B$18.5B$17.6B$16.7B$15.2C8B27.B$14.B2C
9B25.2B$14.12B24.3B$16.8B25.4B$16.5B2CB24.4B$17.3BCBC2B22.4B$16.4B2C
2B22.4B$15.9B21.4B$12.11B21.4B$11.12B20.4B$11.3B2C6B20.4B$12.BCBC7B
18.4B$12.B2C4B.4B16.4B$12.4B5.4B14.4B$11.4B7.4B12.4B$10.4B9.4B10.4B$
5.2B2.4B11.4B8.4B$4.8B13.4B6.4B$4.7B15.4B4.4B$2.9B16.4B2.4B$.10B17.3B
.4B$.11B19.4B$.14B15.4B$.14B14.4B.B$3.B2C9B13.4B.3B$3.B2C10B2.2B7.4B
2.4B$2C12B2A5B5.4B4.4B$2C13BA7B2.4B6.4B2C$.B.2B2C6BA9B.4B8.3B2CB$3.BC
2.C5B5A9B5.2A3.5B$5.2C2.9BA9B4.AB3.6B$10.5B3A12BABAB3.7B$10.4BA15B2A
3.8B2C$10.4B4A14B2.9B2CB$9.3B2A3BA3B2A8B3.12B$9.2BA2B3A4B2A7B6.8B$10.
B2ABA15B6.8B$10.4BA16B4.8B$11.3B2A16B2.4B$14.B5.7B2.4B.3B$20.7B3.B3D.
B$21.B2A2B5.D3B$19.3B.AB5.B.D3B$18.2B3AB5.3B.4B$18.2BAB6.4B2.4B$18.4B
5.4B4.4B$19.2B5.4B6.4B$25.2C2B8.4B$23.BCBCB10.4B$22.BCBCB12.4B$22.2BC
B14.4B$21.6B14.4B$22.4BCB14.4B$23.2BCBCB14.4B$23.BCBCB16.4B$24.2C3B
16.4B$24.5B17.4B$26.4B17.4B$27.4B17.4B$28.4B17.4B$29.4B17.4B$30.4B17.
4B$31.4B17.4B$32.4B17.4B$33.4B17.4B$34.4B17.4B$35.4B$36.4B$37.4B$38.
4B$39.4B$40.4B$41.4B$42.4B$43.4B$44.4B$45.4B$46.4B$47.4B$48.4B$49.4B$
50.4B$51.4B$52.4B$53.4B$54.4B$55.4B$56.4B$57.4B$58.4B$59.4B$60.4B$61.
4B$62.4B$63.4B$64.4B$65.4B$66.4B$67.4B$68.B3D$69.D3B$70.D3B$71.4B$72.
4B$73.3B$74.2B$75.B79$177.2A$176.2A$178.A25$204.2A$204.A.A$204.A21$
226.3A$226.A$227.A21$250.2A$249.2A$251.A21$272.3A$272.A$273.A20$295.
2A$295.A.A$295.A22$319.2A$318.2A$320.A21$341.3A$341.A$342.A20$365.A$
364.2A$364.A.A33$399.2A$398.2A$400.A37$438.2A$438.A.A$438.A22$462.2A$
462.A.A$462.A21$484.3A$484.A$485.A28$514.3A$514.A$515.A20$538.A$537.
2A$537.A.A23$561.3A$561.A$562.A24$589.A$588.2A$588.A.A21$611.2A$610.
2A$612.A20$634.A$633.2A$633.A.A22$656.3A$656.A$657.A57$694.3C$694.C$
695.C!
#C [[ X -563 Y 239 Z 2.5 STEP 50 STOP 7080 ]]
I've put in an actual elbow-push operation as a sample single-channel recipe (green gliders). TRIGGER2 is the white offset glider synchronized with the final glider in that recipe. Cleanup seems to be happening without any trouble, and TRIGGER2 stays synchronized.

The only things left to add to the blueprint are TRIGGER1, to light the first fuse, plus a branch of TRIGGER2 (or just a separate synchronized signal) to light the second fuse. Then I think it will be time to start sorting out the actual single-channel recipe to build the wickstretcher seed, 90 degrees from the elbow shown, and also build these modified decorated Scorbie Splitters and Snarks with 0-degree gliders -- if all goes well.

In the above pattern, if you zoom out, a couple of yellow eaters mark where if the single-channel recipe existed, it would have already constructed a new Snark reflector.

Anyone see any conceptual difficulties with the blueprint so far?

EDIT: Just realized that when I was going on about building a slow-salvo seed for the 21-glider salvo, I was just being silly. Looks like the highest glider offset needed will be lane 42, compared with the single-channel lane. So those gliders can just be the first things fired by the 0-degree elbow, after building and triggering the wickstretcher seed.

A slow-salvo seed would be very easy to put together, using for example this toolkit and script -- especially for salvos like this one which have mostly P1 intermediate targets. Parity only matters for the first few gliders. But as usual, freeze-dried slow salvos seem like a solution in search of a problem.

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Re: Speed Demonoid

Post by Pavgran » September 11th, 2020, 2:13 pm

I'm experimenting with different ways to destroy Scorbie Splitter.
The main idea is to make the destroying glider closer to the input lane, and to make an output glider fly behind the Snark to reduce the Snark ornament size.
The closest thing I've found so far is this:

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x = 101, y = 96, rule = B3/S23
19bo$18bobo$18b2o$43bo$41b3o$40bo$40b2o5$19b2o$18bobo$18bo$17b2o3$22b
2o$21bobo$21bo$20b2o6$31b2o$31b2o$15bo23b2o$14bobo22bo$14b2o24b3o$42bo
2$41bo$40bobo$40bobo$39b2ob3o$45bo$39b2ob3o$39b2obo2$31b2o$22b2o7b2o$
14bo8bo$13bobo7bobo$14b2o8b2o$50bo$49bobo$50b2o$44b2o$44b2o5$29bo$28bo
bo$28bobo$3o26bo67bo$2bo23b3o66b3o$bo24bo67bo$94b2o5$38bo$37bobo$36bo
2bo44b2o$37b2o44bobo5b2o$83bo7b2o$82b2o2$96bo$92b2obobo$91bobobobo$88b
o2bobobobob2o$88b4ob2o2bo2bo$92bo4b2o$90bobo$90b2o13$96b2o$95bobo$96bo
!
Unfortunately, the rest can't be solved with just one turning constellation: the output glider touches the Snark (I've used the boat as the turner, and it produces wrong color, but the correct lane still touches the Snark). But the timing is good enough to make that work, I think.
The search is not finished, though, and I hope more useful solution will pop up.
And while I wrote this post, another solution appeared:

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x = 101, y = 93, rule = B3/S23
43bo$41b3o$40bo$40b2o5$19b2o$18bobo$18bo$17b2o3$22b2o$21bobo$21bo$20b
2o5$14b2o$14bobo14b2o$15bo15b2o$39b2o$39bo9b2o$40b3o5bo2bo$42bo6bobo$
50bo$41bo$40bobo$40bobo$39b2ob3o$45bo$39b2ob3o$39b2obo2$31b2o12b2o$22b
2o7b2o12bobo$23bo22bo$17bo5bobo$16bobo5b2o$16bo2bo$17b2o2$44b2o$44b2o
4$44b2o$29bo13bo2bo$3o25bobo13b2o$2bo25bobo$bo27bo67bo$26b3o66b3o$26bo
67bo$94b2o7$84b2o$83bobo5b2o$83bo7b2o$82b2o2$96bo$92b2obobo$91bobobobo
$88bo2bobobobob2o$88b4ob2o2bo2bo$92bo4b2o$90bobo$90b2o13$97b2o$96bobo$
97bo!
I think it can be transformed into much simpler Snark side than the previous solution.

Edit: and another!

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x = 75, y = 75, rule = LifeHistory
10$31.2C23.A$30.C2.C20.3A$31.C.C19.A$32.C20.2A$28.C$27.C.C$27.C.C$28.
C$32.2A$31.A.A$31.A$30.2A3$35.2A$34.A.A$34.A$33.2A6$44.2A$44.2A$36.2C
14.2A$36.2C14.A$28.C24.3A$27.C.C25.A$28.2C$54.A$53.A.A$53.A.A$52.2A.
3A$58.A$52.2A.3A$52.2A.A2$44.2A$35.2A7.2A$36.A$36.A.A$37.2A2$63.C$62.
C.C$57.2A4.2C$57.2A5$13.3A26.A8.2C$15.A25.A.A6.C2.C$14.A26.A.A7.C.C$
42.A9.C$39.3A$39.A!
Other ideas:
The crab has to be as close to the construction lane as possible. It may allow some of the 21 cleanup gliders to be fired from 0-degree elbow. I think building frozen salvo seed for that is overkill. It's easier to pull the hand block to the 0-deg construction lane with as few gliders as possible, and then do the rest of the job with slow^2 destruction (which part of the 21-glider recipe kinda is).

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Re: Speed Demonoid

Post by dvgrn » September 11th, 2020, 3:06 pm

Pavgran wrote:
September 11th, 2020, 2:13 pm
I'm experimenting with different ways to destroy Scorbie Splitter.
...And while I wrote this post, another solution appeared:
I think it can be transformed into much simpler Snark side than the previous solution.
Edit: and another!
I'll try rebuilding the blueprint using these, and see what happens. Might not happen for a few hours. They look very promising, though.
Pavgran wrote:
September 11th, 2020, 2:13 pm
Other ideas:
The crab has to be as close to the construction lane as possible. It may allow some of the 21 cleanup gliders to be fired from 0-degree elbow.
I thought I had confirmed that all of those 21 gliders could already be produced directly by the 0-degree elbow -- with the wickstretcher location shown in the blueprint. But I haven't actually tried it yet... I end up being wrong for one technical reason or another, painfully often.

EDIT: The crab should be a healthy distance away from the construction lane, as long as it's close enough to allow the 21 gliders (or equivalent) to be made with a 0-degree elbow. The reason to keep it a healthy distance away is that both 0-degree glider production and 90-degree glider production (for making the original wickstretcher seed) take a certain amount of extra space along the construction lane.

If you don't leave enough space, then especially some of the later intermediate targets for the slow-salvo wickstretcher seed construction will turn out to conflict with the elbow recipes needed to create the 90-degree gliders.

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Re: Speed Demonoid

Post by dvgrn » September 11th, 2020, 10:22 pm

dvgrn wrote:
September 11th, 2020, 3:06 pm
I'll try rebuilding the blueprint using these, and see what happens.
Probably the Snark should be run through GoL-destroy also. I can put together something that works, but it's not actually an improvement in terms of the width of the whole Scorbie Splitter assembly:

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x = 211, y = 129, rule = LifeHistory
112.A$110.3A$109.A$109.2A5$88.2A$87.A.A$87.A$86.2A3$91.2A$90.A.A$90.A
$89.2A5$83.2C$83.C.C14.2A$84.C15.2A$108.2A$108.A9.2C$109.3A5.C2.C$
111.A6.C.C$119.C$110.A$109.A.A$109.A.A$108.2A.3A$114.A$108.2A.3A$108.
2A.A2$100.2A12.2C$91.2A7.2A12.C.C$92.A22.C$86.C5.A.A$75.C9.C.C5.2A$
74.C.C8.C2.C$75.C10.2C2$113.2A$113.2A7.2C$79.C41.C2.C$77.3C41.C2.C10.
2C$76.C45.2C10.C2.C$76.2C35.2C20.C.C$98.A13.C2.C20.C$97.A.A13.2C14.2C
$97.A.A29.C.C$98.A31.2C7.C$95.3A40.C.C$95.A42.C.C$139.C24$59.3A128.2C
$61.A128.2C$60.A$196.A$194.3A$193.A$193.2A7$183.2A$182.A.A5.2A$182.A
7.2A$181.2A2$195.A$191.2A.A.A$190.A.A.A.A11.2C$187.A2.A.A.A.A.2A8.C.C
$187.4A.2A2.A2.A9.C$191.A4.2A$189.A.A$189.2A12.2C$202.C.C$202.C$201.
2C8$.C$.2C$C.C5$188.C6.2C$188.3C4.C.C$191.C4.2C$190.2C!
Now, come to think of it, this is fairly close to a decent solution. For this particular Snark cleanup, what would work would be to get a second glider out of the Scorbie Splitter cleanup somehow, preferably one heading northwest.

Reflect that second output glider with a couple of boats or equivalent, to bounce a glider onto the correct lane to do the second half of the Snark cleanup. There are no particular timing constraints, and off there to the northwest there's plenty of empty space in which we can build anything we want with 0-degree gliders. That whole half of the space covered by the 0-degree toolkit will hardly get any use otherwise.

If that doesn't look good enough, no doubt there's some GoL-destroy solution for the Snark that only needs one trigger glider. It would probably still be better to get that trigger glider from some northwestward output from the Scorbie Splitter destruction -- again, because from a construction point of view there's no harm in adding a few more still lifes to the northwest.

EDIT:Proof of concept for the above idea:

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x = 189, y = 146, rule = LifeHistory
51.2A43.4B$51.2A42.4B$51.2B41.4B$50.4B39.4B$49.4B3.2A34.4B$48.4B4.2A
33.4B$47.4B39.4B$46.4B39.4B$45.4B39.4B$44.4B39.4B$86.4B$85.4B$84.4B$
83.4B$82.4B$81.4B$80.4B$79.4B$78.4B$77.4B$72.3B.4B$71.8B10.A$71.7B.B
7.3A$71.10B5.A$69.12B5.2A$68.14B.5B$68.18B$67.22B$67.23B$65.2AB.22B$
64.A.AB.23B$64.A4.22B$63.2A5.20B$71.19B$70.21B$68.2AB.15B.4B$67.A.AB
3.10B5.4B$67.A6.10B6.4B$66.2A5.13B5.4B$72.15B5.4B$71.16B6.4B$70.17B7.
4B$71.16B8.4B$60.2A10.13B11.4B$.2A57.A.A9.5B2A2B.3B12.4B$A.A58.A12.3B
2A2B2.4B11.4B$.A72.8B3.2A12.4B$73.8B4.A9.2A3.4B$73.8B5.3A5.A2.A3.4B$
73.7B8.A6.A.A4.4B$73.7B16.A6.4B$74.6B7.A16.4B$74.6B6.A.A16.4B$75.5B6.
A.A17.4B$75.6B4.2A.3A16.4B$74.6B6.B4.A16.4B$57.A16.7B3.B2AB3A18.4B$
55.3A17.8B.B2A.A21.4B$54.A20.10B26.4B$54.2A18.3B2A6B6.2A19.4B$68.2A5.
2B2A6B6.A.A19.4B$69.A5.10B7.A21.4B$63.A5.A.AB2.11B29.4B$62.A.A5.2AB.
12B30.4B$62.A2.A6.15B30.4B$63.2A7.16B30.4B$72.BA14B.2B28.4B$72.B2A15B
2A28.3B$52.B18.BABA13B.B2A29.2B$51.4B15.4B2.8B.4B.B31.B$50.4B15.4B4.
7B$49.4B15.4B5.6B$48.4B15.4B6.4B9.2A$47.4B15.4B5.A3B10.A2.A$46.4B15.
4B5.A.AB12.2A$45.4B15.4B6.A.A$44.4B15.4B8.A$43.4B15.4B6.3A$42.4B15.4B
7.A$41.4B15.4B$40.4B15.4B$39.4B15.4B$31.2A5.4B15.4B$31.A.A3.4B15.4B$
32.A3.4B15.4B$35.4B15.4B$34.4B15.4B$33.4B15.4B$32.4B15.4B$31.4B15.4B$
30.4B15.4B$29.4B15.4B$28.4B15.4B$27.4B15.4B$26.4B15.4B$25.4B15.4B$24.
4B15.4B$23.4B15.4B$22.4B15.4B$21.4B15.4B$20.4B15.4B$19.4B15.4B$18.4B
15.4B$17.4B15.4B127.2C$16.4B15.4B128.2C$15.4B15.4B$14.4B16.3B136.A$
13.4B154.3A$12.4B154.A$11.A3B155.2A$10.B2AB$10.ABA5$160.2A$159.A.A5.
2A$159.A7.2A$158.2A2$172.A$168.2A.A.A$167.A.A.A.A11.2C$164.A2.A.A.A.A
.2A8.C.C$164.4A.2A2.A2.A9.C$168.A4.2A$166.A.A$166.2A12.2C$179.C.C3.4B
$179.C4.4B$165.B12.2C3.4B$163.4B15.4B$164.4B13.4B$165.4B3.2B6.4B$166.
4B2.3B4.4B$167.8B3.4B$168.13B$169.11B$170.8B2A$169.9B2A$169.10B$169.
8B$170.3B2AB$172.B2A$172.2B!
The two-block OTT below the Snark will have to be replaced (I assume) to get the correct timing back, and probably the 0-degree OTT before the Scorbie Splitter will have to be put back also. It's not perfect by any means, but it's dangerously close to good enough, as far as I'm concerned.

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Re: Speed Demonoid

Post by dvgrn » September 12th, 2020, 6:36 am

dvgrn wrote:
September 11th, 2020, 10:22 pm
EDIT:Proof of concept for the above idea [adding OTTs in the unused easy 0-degree construction area for the Scorbie Splitter]...
Here's a sample completion of that proof of concept. The Scorbie Splitter destruction produces three gliders, one of which is the new TRIGGER2. The other two gliders shoot down the Snark from a distance... more or less.

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x = 286, y = 197, rule = LifeHistory
171.B$170.2B$169.3B$168.4B$167.4B$166.4B$165.4B$164.4B$163.4B$162.4B$
161.4B$160.4B$159.4B$158.4B$157.4B$156.4B$155.4B$154.4B$153.4B$152.4B
$151.4B$150.4B$149.4B$148.4B$147.4B$146.4B$145.4B$144.4B$143.4B$142.
4B$141.4B$140.4B$139.4B$138.4B$137.4B$136.4B$135.4B$134.4B$133.4B$
132.4B$131.4B$130.4B$129.4B$116.4B8.4B$111.6BC3B6.4B$110.6BCBC2B5.4B$
110.7B2C2B4.4B$110.10B4.4B$110.8B5.4B$111.6B5.4B$112.4B5.4B$111.6B3.
4B$96.4B10.8B.4B$91.6BC3B8.4B2.7B$90.6BCBC2B7.4B4.5B$90.7B2C2B6.4B5.
5B$90.10B6.4B5.7B$90.8B7.4B5.4B.4B$91.6B7.4B5.4B3.4B$92.4B7.4B5.4B5.
4B$91.6B5.4B5.4B7.4B$90.8B3.4B5.4B9.4B$89.4B2.4B.4B5.4B11.4B$88.4B4.
7B5.4B13.4B$87.4B6.5B5.4B15.4B$86.4B7.8B.4B17.4B$85.4B7.13B8.2BA8.4B$
84.4B7.4B.8B.B7.3A9.4B$83.4B7.4B3.10B4.BA3B10.4B$82.4B7.4B2.12B2.B.B
2A13.4B$81.4B7.4B2.20B14.4B$80.4B7.4B3.18B17.4B$79.4B7.4B3.22B15.4B$
78.4B7.4B4.23B15.4B$77.4B7.4B3.2A24B15.4B$76.4B7.4B2.BA.A25B15.4B$75.
4B7.4B2.2BA26B17.4B143.B$74.4B7.4B3.B2A25B19.4B140.B2D$73.4B7.4B4.28B
20.4B139.DBD$72.4B7.4B5.29B20.4B137.3BD$71.4B7.4B6.6B2A22B20.4B135.4B
$70.4B7.4B6.6BABA23B20.4B133.4B$69.4B7.4B7.6BA26B20.4B131.4B$68.4B7.
4B8.5B2A27B20.4B129.4B$67.4B7.4B9.30B.4B20.4B127.4B$66.4B7.4B10.31B.
4B20.4B125.4B$65.4B7.4B10.33B.4B20.4B123.4B$64.4B7.4B10.40B20.4B121.
4B$63.4B7.4B10.2B2C38B20.4B119.4B$62.4B7.4B12.BCBC14B2A22B20.4B117.4B
$61.4B7.4B13.2BC15B2A23B20.4B115.4B$60.4B7.4B15.25B2A11B.4B20.4B113.
4B$59.4B7.4B24.17BA9B2C2B.4B20.4B111.4B$58.4B7.4B26.B.15B3A5BC.BC2B.
4B20.4B109.4B$57.4B7.4B29.17BA6BCBC3B.4B20.4B107.4B$56.4B7.4B30.25BC.
4B.4B20.4B105.4B$55.4B7.4B30.17BA9B2.4B.4B20.4B103.4B$54.4B7.4B31.16B
ABA6B5.4B.4B20.4B101.4B$53.4B7.4B30.18BABA6B6.4B.4B20.4B99.4B$52.4B7.
4B29.19B2AB3A4B7.4B.4B20.4B97.4B$51.4B7.4B29.26BA2B9.4B.4B20.4B95.4B$
50.4B7.4B22.C8.19B2AB3A3B10.4B.4B20.4B93.4B$49.4B7.4B21.3C4.B3.19B2AB
A5B11.4B.4B20.4B91.4B$43.3B2.4B7.4B21.C5B.32B13.4B.4B20.4B89.4B$40.
11B7.4B21.B2CB.19B2A12B2CB13.4B.4B20.4B87.4B$39.11B7.4B21.4B.11B2A7B
2A11B.CBCB13.4B.4B20.4B85.4B$39.4B2C6B5.4B21.4B3.11BA22BC3B13.4B.4B
20.4B83.4B$38.4BC2BC6B3.4B21.4B3.6BC5BABA25B13.4B.4B20.4B81.4B$38.5B
2C8B.4B21.4B4.5BCBC5B2A21B.4B13.4B.4B20.4B79.4B$37.20B21.4B4.6BC2BC
21B2.10B13.4B.4B20.4B77.4B$36.20B21.4B4.8B2C30B.4B13.4B.4B20.4B75.4B$
36.20B20.4B4.42B.4B13.4B.4B20.4B73.4B$37.20B18.4B4.37B2C4B2.4B13.4B.
4B20.4B71.4B$36.22B16.4B4.4B2.32B2C4B3.4B13.4B.4B20.4B69.4B$37.22B14.
4B4.4B3.37B5.4B13.4B.4B20.4B67.4B$37.13B2.B3.4B12.4B4.4B3.19B.18B6.4B
13.4B.4B20.4B65.4B$38.8B2CB8.4B10.4B4.4B3.18B2.7B2.9B8.4B13.4B.4B20.
4B63.4B$35.11B2C10.4B8.4B4.4B4.17B.7B5.4B2C3B8.4B13.4B.4B20.4B61.4B$
35.12B12.4B6.4B4.4B4.20BA3B8.2BC2BCB10.4B13.4B.4B20.4B59.4B$34.13B13.
4B4.4B4.4B5.19BABAB10.2B2C13.4B13.4B.4B20.4B57.4B$34.13B14.4B2.4B4.4B
6.19BABAB28.4B13.4B.4B20.4B55.4B$35.8B19.8B4.4B8.4B.14BA2B29.4B13.4B.
4B20.4B53.4B$35.9B19.6B4.4B15.4B.5B3A2B31.4B13.4B.4B20.4B51.4B$36.9B
19.4B4.4B15.4B2.5BA4B32.4B13.4B.4B20.4B49.4B$35.9B19.6B2.4B15.4B5.7B
34.4B13.4B.4B20.4B47.4B$35.9B18.12B15.4B8.4B36.4B13.4B.4B20.4B45.4B$
35.8B17.13B15.4B10.2B38.4B13.4B.4B20.4B43.4B$34.8B17.2B2C9B15.4B52.4B
13.4B.4B20.4B41.4B$35.6B18.2BCBC7B15.4B54.4B13.4B.4B20.4B39.4B$36.4B
19.3BC7B15.4B56.4B13.4B.4B20.4B37.4B$36.4B21.3B.4B15.4B58.4B13.4B.4B
20.4B35.4B$37.2B25.4B15.4B60.4B13.4B.4B20.4B33.4B$63.4B15.4B62.4B13.
4B.4B20.4B31.4B$62.4B15.4B64.4B13.4B.4B20.4B29.4B$61.4B15.4B66.4B13.
4B.4B20.4B27.4B$60.4B15.4B68.4B13.4B.4B20.4B25.4B$59.4B15.4B70.4B13.
4B.4B20.4B23.4B$58.4B15.4B72.4B13.4B.4B20.4B21.4B$57.4B15.4B74.4B13.
4B.4B20.4B19.4B15.B$56.4B15.4B76.4B13.4B.4B20.4B17.4B15.2D$55.4B15.4B
78.4B13.4B.4B20.4B15.4B15.DBD$54.4B15.4B80.4B13.4B.4B20.4B13.4B4.4B7.
3BD$53.4B15.4B82.4B13.4B.4B20.4B11.4B5.4B6.4B$52.4B15.4B84.4B13.4B.4B
20.4B9.4B5.6B4.4B$51.4B15.4B86.4B13.4B.4B20.4B7.4B6.7B2.4B$50.4B15.4B
88.4B13.4B.4B20.4B5.4B6.8B.4B$49.4B15.4B90.4B13.4B.4B20.4B3.4B6.13B$
48.4B15.4B92.4B13.4B.4B5.3B12.4B.4B6.C.5B2C4B$47.4B15.4B94.4B13.4B.4B
3.4B2C5.4B2.7B6.C.C5BCBC4B$46.4B15.4B96.4B13.4B.4B.5B2CB5.4B2.5B7.B2C
6BC5B$45.4B15.4B98.4B13.4B.4B.8B5.4B.5B8.14B$44.4B15.3AB100.4B13.4B.
13B.A3.10B.3B4.9B.B$43.4B16.2BA102.4B13.4B.11B3A4.15B3.8B$42.4B17.BAB
103.4B13.4B.9BA.B5.15B3.8B$41.4B125.4B13.4B.8B2A5.9B2C4B4.7B$40.4B
127.4B13.4B.9B4.9BCBC4B3.4B$39.4B129.4B13.12B4.10B2C5B2.4B$38.4B131.
4B13.12B2.18B.4B$37.4B133.4B13.35B$36.4B135.4B11.16B2.17B$35.4B137.4B
9.16B2.4BC12B$34.4B139.4B7.2B2AB.10B3.2B3CB2.8B$33.4B141.4B6.BABAB3.B
2A3B5.BCB.B2.8B$32.4B143.4B5.BA3B3.B2A3B6.2C3.8B$31.4B145.4B4.2A2B3.
5B12.8B$30.4B147.4B8.8B.5B4.8B$29.4B149.4B7.9BA5B2.8B$28.4B151.4B5.6B
2ABABA13B$27.4B153.4B4.5BABABABA12B$26.4B155.4B4.BA.BABABABAB2A8B$25.
4B157.4B3.B4A.2A2BA2BA.6B$24.4B159.4B2.5BA.3B2AB3.4B$23.4B161.4B3.BAB
A6B3.4B$22.4B163.4B3.2A4B5.4B$21.4B165.4B3.2B3.2B2.4B$20.4B167.4B6.8B
$19.4B169.4B5.7B$18.4B171.4B2.8B.B$17.4B173.4B.12B$16.4B175.6B2C10B$
15.4B173.B3.4BCBC12B$14.4B172.4B2.5BC14B$13.4B172.26B$12.4B174.25B$
11.4B176.23B$10.4B177.23B$9.4B179.21B$8.4B181.7B2C8B$7.4B183.6BCBC3B$
6.4B184.7BCBC2B$5.4B186.7BC2B$4.4B188.8B$3.4B192.2B$2.4B$.3CB$3BC$2BC!
An edge-shooting turner has to be added at the Snark to get the second glider onto the right lane. So probably two or three OTT still lifes can be saved with a GoL-destroy solution for the Snark that needs only one trigger glider and one or two bait objects.

The timing of the TRIGGER2 output glider turns out to be slightly unfortunate. It's inside the adjustability range for the 12x12 OTT toolkit, but close to the edge of the range so coverage isn't complete. The CC3 group is missing that particular timing adjustment. So to get the timing exactly right, it's necessary to add two extra still lifes (the two easternmost boats, which amount to a 16-tick delay 0-degree OTT keeping the glider on the same lane). That ends up being about the same cost as adding a splitter near the Snark to produce a trigger glider, like in the last proof-of-concept pattern.

EDIT: Taking my own suggestion with a 2-object Seeds of Destruction option that showed up. GoL-destroy might be able to knock this down to one bait object around the Snark, but it's pretty cheap already:

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x = 245, y = 178, rule = LifeHistory
132.2E$132.2E2$132.4B$131.4B$130.4B$129.4B$128.4B$127.4B$126.4B$125.
4B$124.4B$123.4B$122.4B$121.4B$120.4B$119.4B$118.4B$117.4B$116.4B$
115.4B$114.4B$113.4B$112.4B$111.4B$110.4B$109.4B$108.4B$107.4B$106.4B
$105.4B$104.4B$103.4B$102.4B$101.4B$100.4B$99.4B$98.4B$97.4B$96.4B$
95.4B$94.4B$93.4B$92.4B$91.4B$69.3B18.4B$64.6BC3B15.4B$63.6BCBC2B14.
4B$63.7B2C2B13.4B$63.10B13.4B$63.8B10.3B.4B$64.6B10.8B8.2BA$65.4B11.
7B.B7.3A$64.6B10.10B4.BA3B$63.8B7.12B2.B.B2A$62.4B2.4B5.20B$61.4B4.4B
4.18B$60.4B6.4B2.22B$59.4B8.4B.23B$58.4B10.2B2A24B$57.4B11.BABA25B$
56.4B11.2BA26B$55.4B12.B2A25B$54.4B13.28B$53.4B14.29B$52.4B15.6B2A22B
$51.4B15.6BABA23B$50.4B16.6BA26B$49.4B17.5B2A27B$48.4B18.30B.4B$47.4B
19.30B2.4B$46.4B19.32B2.4B$45.4B19.34B.5B$44.4B19.2B2C38B$43.4B21.BCB
C14B2A22B$42.4B22.2BC15B2A23B$41.4B24.25B2A11B.4B$40.4B33.17BA9B2CB2.
4B$23.B15.4B35.B.15B3A5BC.BCB2.4B$22.4B12.4B38.17BA6BCBC4.4B$21.2C4B
10.4B39.25BC6.4B$21.BC4B9.4B39.17BA9B7.4B127.B$20.2BCBC2B8.4B40.16BAB
A6B10.4B125.2D$10.5B3.5B2C2B7.4B39.18BABA6B11.4B123.DBD$9.8B.8B7.4B
38.19B2AB3A4B12.4B121.3BD$8.19B5.4B38.26BA2B14.4B119.4B$8.9BC12B.4B
31.C8.19B2AB3A3B15.4B117.4B$7.9BCBC15B30.3C4.B3.19B2ABA6B15.4B115.4B$
7.8BCBC15B30.C5B.35B15.4B113.4B$8.7B2C15B30.B2CB.19B2A12B2C4B15.4B
111.4B$8.23B30.4B.11B2A7B2A11B.CBC4B15.4B109.4B$8.23B29.4B3.11BA22BC
6B15.4B107.4B$9.22B28.4B3.6BC5BABA28B15.4B105.4B$9.2B2.19B26.7B.5BCBC
5B2A21B.7B15.4B103.4B$14.19B24.4B.9BC2BC21B2.13B15.4B101.4B$15.19B22.
4B.11B2C30B.7B15.4B99.4B$15.11B.8B20.4B3.43B.7B15.4B97.4B$19.6B3.2B2.
4B18.4B.5BC34B2C4B2.7B15.4B95.4B$33.4B16.4B.5BCBC33B2C4B3.7B15.4B93.
4B$34.4B14.4B2.6B2C38B5.7B15.4B91.4B$35.4B12.4B3.27B.18B6.7B15.4B89.
4B$36.4B10.4B4.25B2.7B2.9B8.7B15.4B87.4B$37.4B8.4B4.25B.7B5.4B2C3B8.
7B15.4B85.4B$38.4B6.4B4.28BA3B8.2BC2BCB10.7B15.4B83.4B$39.4B4.4B4.28B
ABAB10.2B2C13.7B15.4B81.4B$40.4B2.4B4.4B3.2B2C18BABAB28.7B15.4B79.4B$
41.8B4.4B5.BC.C3B.14BA2B29.7B15.4B77.4B$42.6B4.4B7.BC6.4B.5B3A2B31.7B
15.4B75.4B$43.4B4.4B15.4B2.5BA4B32.7B15.4B73.4B$42.6B2.4B15.4B5.7B34.
7B15.4B71.4B$41.12B15.4B8.4B36.7B15.4B69.4B$39.13B15.4B10.2B38.7B15.
4B67.4B$38.2B2C9B15.4B52.7B15.4B65.4B$38.2BCBC7B15.4B54.7B15.4B63.4B$
38.3BC7B15.4B56.7B15.4B61.4B$40.3B.4B15.4B58.7B15.4B59.4B$43.4B15.4B
60.7B15.4B57.4B$42.4B15.4B62.7B15.4B55.4B$41.4B15.4B64.7B15.4B53.4B$
40.4B15.4B66.7B15.4B51.4B$39.4B15.4B68.7B15.4B49.4B$38.4B15.4B70.7B
15.4B47.4B$37.4B15.4B72.7B15.4B45.4B$36.4B15.4B74.7B15.4B43.4B15.B$
35.4B15.4B76.7B15.4B41.4B15.2D$34.4B15.4B78.7B15.4B39.4B15.DBD$33.4B
15.4B80.7B15.4B37.4B15.3BD$32.4B15.4B82.7B15.4B35.4B15.4B$31.4B15.4B
84.7B15.4B33.4B15.4B$30.4B15.4B86.7B15.4B31.4B15.4B$29.4B15.4B88.7B
15.4B29.4B15.4B$28.4B15.4B90.7B15.4B27.4B15.4B$27.4B15.4B92.7B15.4B
13.2B10.4B15.4B$26.4B15.4B94.7B15.4B11.6B6.4B15.4B$25.4B15.4B96.7B8.
2CB4.4B10.9B2.4B15.4B$24.4B15.4B98.7B7.CBC9B9.14B15.4B$23.4B15.3AB
100.7B6.B2C10B.2B4.3BA10B15.4B$22.4B16.2BA102.7B6.16B3.B3A9B15.4B$21.
4B18.A104.7B5.16B.2BA13B13.4B$20.4B125.7B4.19B2A11B13.4B$19.4B127.7B
4.31B12.4B$18.4B129.7B.33B11.4B$17.4B131.39B11.4B$16.4B133.39B9.4B$
15.4B135.39B7.4B$14.4B137.38B6.4B$13.4B139.13B2A22B5.4B$12.4B140.12BA
BA5B2A14B5.4B$11.4B142.11BA7B2A12B6.4B$10.4B144.9B2A19B2C5.4B$9.4B
147.28B2C4.4B$8.4B148.21BA6B5.4B$7.4B148.18B2ABABA3B6.4B$6.4B149.17BA
BABABA3B5.4B$5.4B151.13BA2BABABABAB2AB3.4B$4.4B154.8B.2B4AB2A2BA2BA3.
4B$3.4B159.11BA4B2A2B2.4B$2.4B161.8BA.A7B2.4B$.4B162.8B2A2B.5B.4B$3CB
163.11B2.4B.4B$2BC165.6B6.8B$.C168.5B5.7B$172.4B2.8B.B$173.4B.12B$
174.6B2C10B$171.B3.4BCBC12B$169.4B2.5BC14B$168.26B$169.25B$170.23B$
170.23B$171.21B$172.7B2C8B$173.6BCBC3B$173.7BCBC2B$174.7BC2B$175.8B$
178.2B!
If any more GoL-destroy results show up for the Scorbie Splitter, with output gliders that appear a little bit slower but not too much slower, and/or where a slow second output glider is produced heading northwest, then a few more bait objects can be optimized out of this.

Side note on optimization: it might be worth keeping in mind that a smaller bounding box doesn't always imply a cheaper recipe. It's generally safer to keep bait objects at least several cells away from catalysts, especially the hard-to-build ones like the eater2 and Snark catalyst. The bait objects here are a good distance from other objects, but still close enough that they should compile into a fairly efficient recipe.

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Re: Speed Demonoid

Post by Pavgran » September 15th, 2020, 9:18 am

Running some GoL-destroy on Snark:

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x = 364, y = 181, rule = LifeHistory
48$102.A$100.3A$99.A$99.2A5$78.2A$77.A.A$77.A$76.2A3$81.2A$80.A.A$80.
A$79.2A5$73.2C180.2C23.A$73.C.C14.2A162.C2.C20.3A$74.C15.2A163.C.C19.
A$98.2A156.C20.2A$98.A9.2C142.C$99.3A5.C2.C140.C.C$101.A6.C.C140.C.C$
109.C142.C$100.A155.2A$99.A.A153.A.A$99.A.A153.A$98.2A.3A150.2A$104.A
$98.2A.3A$98.2A.A157.2A$258.A.A$90.2A12.2C152.A$81.2A7.2A12.C.C150.2A
$82.A22.C$76.C5.A.A$75.C.C5.2A$75.C2.C$76.2C$268.2A$103.2A163.2A$103.
2A155.2C14.2A$260.2C14.A$82.2C168.C24.3A$81.C.C167.C.C25.A$83.C19.2C
147.2C$88.A13.C2.C172.A$87.A.A13.2C172.A.A$87.A.A187.A.A$88.A56.D10.A
119.2A.3A$85.3A55.D.D8.3A125.A$85.A58.2D7.A122.2A.3A$153.2A121.2A.A2$
268.2A$259.2A7.2A$260.A$260.A.A$261.2A$143.2A$142.A.A5.2A135.C$142.A
7.2A134.C.C$141.2A138.2A4.2C$281.2A$155.A$151.2A.A.A$142.2C6.A.A.A.A
102.3C$141.C2.C2.A2.A.A.A.A.2A101.C$142.2C3.4A.2A2.A2.A100.C5.A8.2C$
151.A4.2A107.A.A6.C2.C$149.A.A113.A.A7.C.C$149.2A115.A9.C46.D10.A$
263.3A55.D.D8.3A$161.2C100.A58.2D7.A$161.2C168.2A$147.C$146.C.C$146.
2C4$321.2A$320.A.A5.2A$320.A7.2A$319.2A2$333.A7.C$329.2A.A.A5.C.C$
328.A.A.A.A5.C.C$325.A2.A.A.A.A.2A3.C$325.4A.2A2.A2.A$15.3C311.A4.2A$
17.C309.A.A$16.C310.2A$320.2C$319.C2.C$320.2C2$325.2C$324.C2.C$325.C.
C$326.C$203.3C$205.C$204.C!
The output destruction glider is too fast in both cases, but that's not the problem because you can delay it with OTTs.

Also, I've compiled a test version of crab-building recipe to check what the minimum distance from the construction lane can be.
crabbuild.mc
(203.96 KiB) Downloaded 133 times
The construction site looks like this:

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x = 175, y = 172, rule = LifeHistory
117.2B$116.4B$109.3B3.5B$109.3B2.8B$107.15B$98.2B3.21B$98.3B.23B$96.
29B$96.30B.3B$95.36B$95.37B$89.2B4.38B$88.3B3.39B$87.7B.40B$86.50B$
85.51B$81.53B$80.54B$78.54B$78.52B$78.52B$78.52B$77.51B$77.51B$74.53B
$73.55B$71.58B$70.59B$68.62B$68.61B$66.63B$66.62B$65.63B$64.63B$62.
64B$62.65B$61.67B$59.69B$59.68B$58.68B$56.69B$56.67B$56.67B$57.65B$
56.67B$55.69B$54.71B$53.73B$52.75B$51.77B$47.82B$46.84B$44.87B$44.88B
$44.89B$45.89B$43.92B$42.94B$39.98B$37.101B$36.103B$36.104B$36.105B$
33.109B$32.111B$32.112B$31.114B$30.116B$29.118B$29.96BA22B$29.95BABA
22B$26.99B2A23B12.2D$25.126B12.2D$23.129B10.D$23.130B6.2D$23.131B7.D$
23.132B$20.136B3.D2.D$19.138BD.D2.2D5.2D$17.89B2A48BDBD5.D5.2D$17.88B
A2BA46BDBD2B2.D.D4.D$17.88BABA33B2D11BDBD4B2.D2.2D$18.88BA35B2D9BDBD
6B4.2D$17.111B2A5B2A4BD10BDBD7B.D$17.110BA2BA3BABA14BDBD8BDBD$17.96B
2A13BABA3BA15BDBD8BDBD$15.98B2A14BA3B2A14BDBD8BDBD2B$14.134BDBD8BDBD
4B$13.134BDBD8BDBD7B$12.88B2A44BDBD8BDBD8B$12.87BABA43BDBD8BDBD9B$11.
88B2A43BDBD8BDBD11B$12.131BDBD8BDBD12B$11.131BDBD8BDBD3B2D8B$10.88B2A
15B2A3B2A7BA11BDBD8BDBD5B2D8B$9.88BABA15B2A3BABA4B3A10BDBD8BDBD5BD12B
$8.25B2A61BABA22BA4BA12BDBD8BDBD20B$7.26B2A62BA28B2A10BDBD8BDBD20B$6.
131BDBD8BDBD20B$5.109B2A20BDBD8BDBD21B$4.32B2D76B2A19BDBD8BDBD23B$4.
32B2D97B2D8BDBD8B2A15B$4.26B2D59B2A51BDBD10BA15B$4.25BDBD58BABA50BDBD
8B3A17B$4.27BD58B2A15B2A34B2D9BA19B$2.105BABA62B$.108BA21B2D38B$91BA
17B2A19BD2BD21B2A13B$.89BABA36BDB2DBD19BA2BA11B$2.88BABA25B2A8BDBD2BD
BD19BABA13B$3.88BA19B2A5B2A8BDBD2BDBD13B2A5BA14B$3.109BA10B2A4BDB2DBD
14BA20B$3.109BABA3B2A2BABA5BD2BD13BABA19B$4.78B2A29B2A2BA2BA2BA7B2D
14B2A21B$4.78B2A33BABA51B$4.75BA38BA45B2A6BA$5.73BABA7BA65B2A8BABA4BA
BA$6.2B.69BABA5B3A33BA26BA4BABA8BABA4B2AB$10.69BA5BA6BA28BABA5B2A17BA
BA4B2A9BA7B$10.75B2A4BABA23BA3BA2BA3BABA18B2A21B$10.36B2.42BABA18B2A
4BA4BABA4BA40B$10.36B3.41B2A19BABA3BA5BA31BA14B$10.35B5.63BA14BA25BAB
A5B2A6B$9.36B6.62B2A12BABAB2A20BA2BA5B2A5B$8.36B8.68B3A3BA2BAB2A21B2A
12B$7.4B.32B9.74B2A39B$6.4B2.31B11.113B$5.4B4.29B13.86B2A23B$4.4B5.
28B15.49B2A8B2A11B2A11B2A22B$3.4B8.6B.18B17.48B2A7BA2BA10BA36B$2.4B9.
6B.17B19.51BA4BA2BA11B3A32B$.4B12.2B4.2B4.9B21.49BABA4B2A14BA30B$4B
25.8B23.48B2A24BA25B$3B27.B3.B26.73B3A23B$2B60.75BA2B.19B$B62.51BA21B
2AB5.8BA6B$64.49BABA23B3.10B3A4B$65.47BA2BA22B4.6BA6BA2B$66.24B2A21B
2A22B2A4.4BABA4B2A$67.22BABA16B2A27BA6.4BABA5B$68.22BA16BA2BA24BABA7.
4B2A4B$69.39B2A21BA3B2A8.7B$70.60BABAB$71.58BABAB$72.57B2AB$73.17B2A
28BA10B$74.15BA2BA26BABA8B$75.14BA2BA5B2A18BABA9B$76.14B2A5BA2BA17B2A
12B$77.20BA2BA31BA$77.21B2A22B2A7BABA$77.11BA33BA9BA$77.12BA30BABA9B$
77.10B3A30B2A5B2A2B$77.50B2AB$77.54B$77.55B$76.28B.8BA17B$77.26B3.6BA
BA17B$77.7B.9B2A7B2A7B2A17B$78.6B4.5BABA7BABA20B2AB$78.5B6.5BA9BA20BA
BA$79.2B9.4B2.30BA$91.2B5.29B$99.2B3.22B$103.22B$103.18B$105.13B.B$
104.14B$104.6B.6B$104.6B2.5B$105.B.2B6.B!
The firing of cleanup gliders is at the edge of 0-degree elbow capabilities.

Do we need more research on these topics? I think the rest is just "pointless optimization game".

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Re: Speed Demonoid

Post by dvgrn » September 15th, 2020, 9:33 am

Pavgran wrote:
September 15th, 2020, 9:18 am
Running some GoL-destroy on Snark...
Do we need more research on these topics? I think the rest is just "pointless optimization game".
This looks good to me!

I think it will end up down around ten or twelve bait objects for the Scorbie Splitter and the Snark combined, which is way better than the previous attempt. I'll finish up the final exact-timing connection and we should be all set.

EDIT: Oddly enough, having the self-destructed Snark's output glider be on the same lane as the Scorbie Splitter self-destruct's input glider, actually makes it harder to find cheap solutions with the right amount of delay. With let's say a ten- or twenty-lane mismatch, the retiming could probably be done with two 90-degree turners -- a boat, long boat or eater plus a two-object turner -- which would have saved one more bait object.

With the two latest seedings, twelve bait objects is the best I can do. I'm not planning to play the Pointless Optimization Game any more on the self-destruct mechanism, at least unless a really nice elegant seeding shows up with a good lane offset. So any other aspiring OTT-wranglers can please take over at this point:

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x = 145, y = 106, rule = LifeHistory
62.4B$61.4B$60.4B$59.4B$58.4B$57.4B$56.4B$55.4B$54.4B$53.4B$52.4B$51.
4B$50.4B$49.4B$48.4B$47.4B$46.4B$45.4B$44.4B$43.4B$42.4B$37.3B.4B$36.
8B10.A$36.7B.B7.3A$36.10B5.A$34.12B5.2A$33.14B.5B$33.18B$32.22B$32.
23B$30.2AB.22B$29.A.AB.23B$29.A4.22B$28.2A5.20B$36.19B$35.21B$33.2AB.
15B.4B$32.A.AB3.10B5.4B$32.A6.10B6.4B$31.2A5.13B5.4B$37.15B5.4B$36.
16B6.4B$35.17B7.4B$36.16B8.4B$25.2C10.13B11.4B$25.C.C9.5B2A2B.3B12.4B
$26.C12.3B2A2B2.4B11.4B$39.8B3.2A12.4B$38.8B4.A9.2C3.4B$38.8B5.3A5.C
2.C3.4B$38.7B8.A6.C.C4.4B71.3D$38.7B16.C6.4B69.3BD$39.6B7.A16.4B67.3B
D$15.2C22.6B6.A.A16.4B65.4B$14.C.C23.5B6.A.A17.4B63.4B$13.C.C24.6B4.
2A.3A16.4B61.4B$14.C24.6B6.B4.A16.4B59.4B$39.7B3.B2AB3A18.4B57.4B$40.
8B.B2A.A21.4B55.4B$40.10B26.4B53.4B$39.3B2A6B6.2C19.4B51.4B$33.2A5.2B
2A6B6.C.C19.4B49.4B$34.A5.10B7.C21.4B47.4B$10.2C16.C5.A.AB2.11B29.4B
45.4B$10.C.C14.C.C5.2AB.12B30.4B43.4B$12.C14.C2.C6.15B30.4B41.4B$12.
2C14.2C7.16B30.4B39.4B$37.16B.2B28.4B37.4B$19.C17.18B2A28.4B35.4B$18.
C.C15.17B.B2A29.4B33.4B$18.C.C4.2C8.4B2.8B.4B.B31.4B31.4B$19.C4.C.C7.
2A2B4.7B39.4B29.4B$25.C7.ABAB5.6B41.4B27.4B$32.3BA6.4B9.2C33.4B25.4B$
31.4B5.A3B10.C2.C33.4B23.4B$30.4B5.A.AB12.2C35.4B21.4B$29.4B6.A.A51.
4B19.4B$28.4B8.A53.4B10.A6.4B$27.4B6.3A55.4B7.3A5.4B$26.4B7.A58.4B5.A
7.4B$25.4B68.4B4.2A5.4B15.3D$24.4B70.9B4.4B18.D$4.2C17.4B72.6B5.4B18.
D$3.C.C16.4B73.8B2.4B$5.C15.4B72.15B$20.4B73.14B$19.4B74.13B$18.4B73.
2AB.10B$17.4B73.A.AB3.B2A3B$16.4B74.A6.B2A3B$15.4B74.2A6.4B$14.4B84.
3B$13.4B86.2B.BA$12.4B86.B2ABA.A$11.4B79.2C5.BABABA.A$10.4B79.C2.C2.A
2.A.A.A.A.2A$9.4B81.2C3.4A.2A2.A2.A$8.4B91.A4.2A$7.4B90.A.A$6.4B91.2A
$5.4B$4.4B105.2C$3.4B106.2C$2.4B93.C$.4B93.C.C$4B94.2C!
EDIT2: If we want to connect this self-destruct sequence to the second fuse-lighting -- and really, given a TRIGGER1/TRIGGER2 design with separate following synchronized signals, why not do that? -- then we need to get an additional output glider from somewhere. Here's one option, but it takes three more bait still lifes:

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x = 129, y = 106, rule = LifeHistory
62.4B$61.4B$60.4B$59.4B$58.4B$57.4B$56.4B$55.4B$54.4B$53.4B$52.4B$51.
4B$50.4B$49.4B$48.4B$47.4B$46.4B$45.4B$44.4B$43.4B$42.4B$37.3B.4B$36.
8B10.A$36.7B.B7.3A$36.10B5.A$34.12B5.2A$33.14B.5B$33.18B$32.22B$32.
23B$30.2AB.22B$29.A.AB.23B$29.A4.22B$28.2A5.20B$36.19B$35.21B$33.2AB.
15B.4B$32.A.AB3.10B5.4B$32.A6.10B6.4B$31.2A5.13B5.4B$37.15B5.4B$36.
16B6.4B$35.17B7.4B$36.16B8.4B$25.2A10.13B11.4B$25.A.A9.5B2A2B.3B12.4B
$26.A12.3B2A2B2.4B11.4B$39.8B3.2A12.4B$38.8B4.A9.2A3.4B$38.8B5.3A5.A
2.A3.4B$38.7B8.A6.A.A4.4B$38.7B16.A6.4B$39.6B7.A16.4B$15.2A22.6B6.A.A
16.4B$14.A.A23.5B6.A.A17.4B$13.A.A24.6B4.2A.3A16.4B$14.A24.6B6.B4.A
16.4B$39.7B3.B2AB3A18.4B$40.8B.B2A.A21.4B$40.10B26.4B$39.3B2A6B6.2A
19.4B$33.2A5.2B2A6B6.A.A19.4B$34.A5.10B7.A21.4B$10.2A16.A5.A.AB2.11B
29.4B$10.A.A14.A.A5.2AB.12B30.4B43.B$12.A14.A2.A6.15B30.4B41.2B$12.2A
14.2A7.16B30.4B39.3B$37.16B.2B28.4B37.4B$19.A17.18B2A28.4B35.4B$18.A.
A15.17B.B2A29.4B33.4B$18.A.A4.2A8.4B2.8B.4B.B31.4B31.4B$19.A4.A.A7.2A
2B4.7B39.4B29.4B$25.A7.ABAB5.6B41.4B27.4B$32.3BA6.4B9.2A33.4B25.4B$
31.4B5.A3B10.A2.A33.4B23.4B$30.4B5.A.AB12.2A35.4B21.4B$29.4B6.A.A51.
4B19.4B$28.4B8.A53.4B10.A6.4B$18.2C7.4B6.3A55.4B7.3A5.4B$18.2C6.4B7.A
58.4B5.A7.4B$25.4B68.4B4.2A5.4B$24.4B70.9B4.4B$4.2C17.4B72.6B5.4B$3.C
.C16.4B73.8B2.4B$5.C15.4B72.15B$11.C8.4B73.14B$10.C.C6.4B74.13B$11.2C
5.4B73.2AB.10B$17.4B73.A.AB3.B2A3B$16.4B74.A6.B2A3B$15.4B74.2A6.4B$
14.4B84.3B$13.4B86.2B.BA$12.4B86.B2ABA.A$11.4B12.2C65.2A5.BABABA.A$
10.4B12.C.C64.A2.A2.A2.A.A.A.A.2A$9.4B14.C66.2A3.4A.2A2.A2.A$8.4B91.A
4.2A$7.4B90.A.A$6.4B91.2A$5.4B$4.4B105.2A$3.4B106.2A$2.4B93.A$.4B93.A
.A$4B94.2A!

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Re: Speed Demonoid

Post by Pavgran » September 15th, 2020, 1:50 pm

I've played around with TRIGGER1 concept for a bit. I've used the return glider from the fuse-lighting reaction.
I've tried to move the TRIGGER1 path behind the Snark-to-Scorbie lane, but there were not enough time for the glider to cover all that distance.
In the pattern below the timing is wrong by 4 ticks, but that's because I didn't use the OTT collection. I've just octohash-searched for glider and grabbed the first two turners that fit the task (one had to be highway-robberish, and the other right-colorish).

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x = 756, y = 464, rule = LifeHistory
686.3A$685.3BA$684.3BA$683.B2AB$635.2B45.2BAB$634.4B43.4B$633.5B42.2B
A3B2A$631.8B40.2BABA2B2A5.3A$629.9B2D11.2B25.2BABA3BABA3.3BA$628.10BD
BD10.4B4.B17.2BABA6B2A.3BA$629.10BD2B8.6B2.3B10.3A2.DBABA6BAB4AB$630.
4B2.6B3.2B2.12B9.3BA.BDCBA10B2AB$629.14B.3B.14B7.3BA.BDADA8BA4B$628.
37B3.4B.2BABA8BABA2B$627.11BD32B.BDCBA8BABA2B$626.11BDBD30B.2BCDA8BAB
A2B$625.13BDBD28B.2BABA8BABA2B$624.15B2D30BCBAB2D5BADA2B$623.9B2D36BC
BCBD2BD3BABCDB$622.10B2D35BCBC3BDB2DBABCBD$621.40BD6BCBC8BADA2B$144.
2B474.41B2D4BCBC8BABADB$143.4B472.41BDBD3BCBC8BCDABD$136.3B3.5B471.
47BCBC8BCBA2B$136.3B2.8B468.29B2D5B2D9BCBC8BCBC2B$134.15B467.16B2D3B
2D6BD2BD3BDBD8BCBC8BCBC2B$125.2B3.21B464.2B2D12BD2BD2BDBD6BDBD3BD9BCB
C8BCBC3B$125.3B.23B462.3BDBD11BDBD4B2D7BD3B2D8BCBC8BCBC5B$123.29B461.
6BD12BD27BCBC8BCBC7B2.3A$123.30B.3B456.6B2D38BCBC8BCBC12BA$122.36B
453.47BCBC8BCBC12BA$122.37B451.5B2D19B2D7BD11BCBC8BCBC13B$116.2B4.38B
450.5BDBD18BDBD4B3D10BCBC8BCBC15B$115.3B3.39B450.6BDBD18BD4BD12BCBC8B
CBC17B$114.7B.40B450.5BD24B2D10BCBC8BCBC19B$113.50B450.40BCBC8BCBC21B
$112.51B449.40BCBC8BCBC23B$108.53B452.38BCBC8BCBC25B$107.54B453.37B2C
8BCBC9BD17B$105.54B454.14B2D31BCBC10B2D17B$105.52B455.15B2D30BCBC10BD
BD18B$105.52B454.47BCBC33B$105.52B453.47BCBC35B$104.51B450.B3.8BD38BC
BC37B$104.51B449.11B3D2B2D33BCBC39B$101.53B450.10BD5BDBD31BCBC14B2D
25B$100.55B448.11B2D6BD22B2D7B2C16BD26B41.2B$98.58B447.6B3.10B2D20BD
2BD21B3D28B40.3B$97.59B446.3BD4B.32BDB2DBD20BD31B37.5B$95.62B445.2BDB
D6BD17B2D9BDBD2BDBD52B36.7B$95.61B441.B.B2.3BD6BDBD9B2D5B2D9BDBD2BDBD
53B34.9B$93.63B440.5B.9BDBD11BD10B2D5BDB2DBD21B2D32B33.10B$93.62B438.
18B2D12BDBD3B2D2BDBD6BD2BD12B2D7BD2BD32B22.B6.14B$92.63B438.8B2D23B2D
2BD2BD2BD8B2D13BD9BDBD33B19.5B4.14B$91.63B438.2B2D5B2D27BDBD25BDBD10B
D35B11.2B3.8B.16B$89.64B439.BDBD35BD26B2D24B2D22B9.4B.25B$89.65B437.
3BD89BDBD22B7.32B$88.67B435.45B2D6B2D40BD24B5.35B$86.69B435.15BD28BD
2BD4BDBD66B4.36B$86.68B436.13B3D25BD3BD2BD4BD16BD51B.38B$85.68B437.
12BD6BD21BD4B2D9B2C10BDBD91B$83.69B437.13B2D4BDBD20BD10BD4BCBC10B2D
91B$83.67B438.19BDBD31BDBD4BC106B$83.67B439.18B2D31BD2BDB2D109B$84.
65B438.38B2D7B3D4B2D113B$83.67B435.39BD2BD32B2D93B$82.69B433.34B2D4BD
2BD27B2D3B2D92B$81.71B433.12BD19BD2BD4B2D5BD9B2D11B2D12B2D82B$80.73B
432.11BDBD18BDBD12B3D7BD26B2D81B$79.75B431.11B2D20BD16BD7B3D106B$78.
77B431.48B2D9BD108B$74.82B431.28BD8BD23BD105B$73.84B428.29BDBD6BDBD
22B3D103B$71.87B426.30BDBD6B2D26BD23BD76B$71.88B425.31BD34B2D22BDBD
75B$71.89B425.41B2D45BD2BD74B$72.89B423.11BD30B2D46B2D75B$70.92B423.
3B.5BDBD154B$69.94B426.2B.3B2D154B$66.98B428.158B$64.101B427.73B2D82B
$63.103B34.2A389.15B2D56BDBD83B$63.104B32.ABA389.14BD2BD51B2D2B2D85B$
63.105B30.3BA390.13BD2BD50BDBD89B$60.109B28.BA2B392.13B2D50BDBD88B$
59.111B26.B2AB393.25BC40BD89B$59.112B24.2B2A394.2B2D20BCBC127B$58.
114B22.4B2A393.BDBD20BC2BC121B.B$57.116B20.2BA3B2A6.2A384.2BD22B2C16B
D106B$56.118B18.2BABABA2B2A3.ABA383.16B2D25BDBD8B2D4B2D89B$56.96BD22B
16.2BABA4B3A2.3BA383.15BD2BD23BDBD8BD2BD2BDBD89B$56.95BDBD22B3.2A9.2B
ABA8B.BA2B385.14BD2BD23B2D10B2D3B2D92B$53.99B2D23B.ABA8.2DABA10B2AB
387.8B2D4B2D2BC132B$52.128BA7.2BCDA8BA4B388.8BDBD6BCBC24B2D104B$50.
130B7.2BCBA8BABA2B390.7BD9B2C24BD104B$50.130B6.2DABA8BABA2B392.40BDBD
103B$50.131B4.2BADA8BABA2B393.40B2D103B$50.132B2.2BABA8BABA2B395.143B
$47.138BADABD6BABA2B394.46B2D97B$46.138BCBC2B2D4BADC2B394.47B2D97B$
44.89B2D48BCBC5BD2BABA2D395.146B$44.88BD2BD46BCBC4BDBDBABADB395.45B2D
99B$44.88BDBD33B2D11BCBC6BDBADC2B347.B48.44BD2BD97B$45.88BD35B2D9BCBC
8BABCDB.2A345.2B48.44B2D98B$44.111B2D5B2D4BD10BCBC8BCBA2B.ABA345.3B
49.138B$44.110BD2BD3BDBD14BCBC8BCBC2B.3BA345.4B50.B8.125B$44.96B2D13B
DBD3BD15BCBC8BCBC2B.4B347.4B59.124B$42.98B2D14BD3B2D14BCBC8BCBC2B.4B
349.4B59.123B$41.134BCBC8BCBC7B351.4B59.121B$40.134BCBC8BCBC7B353.4B
59.119B$39.88B2D44BCBC8BCBC8B354.4B59.118B$39.87BDBD43BCBC8BCBC9B355.
4B59.116B$38.88B2D43BCBC8BCBC11B355.4B59.114B$39.131BCBC8BCBC12B356.
4B59.113B$38.131BCBC8BCBC3B2D8B357.4B59.110B$37.88B2D15B2D3B2D7BD11BC
BC8BCBC5B2D8B357.4B59.109B$36.88BDBD15B2D3BDBD4B3D10BCBC8BCBC5BD12B
356.4B59.106B$35.25B2A61BDBD22BD4BD12BCBC8BCBC20B356.4B59.104B$34.26B
2A62BD28B2D10BCBC8BCBC20B358.4B59.102B$33.131BCBC8BCBC20B360.4B59.
101B$32.109B2D20BCBC8BCBC21B361.4B59.98B$31.32B2D76B2D19BCBC8BCBC23B
361.4B59.96B$31.32B2D97B2C8BCBC8B2D15B361.4B59.95B$31.26B2D59B2D51BCB
C10BD15B362.4B59.92B$31.25BDBD58BDBD50BCBC8B3D17B362.4B59.90B$31.27BD
58B2D15B2D34B2C9BD19B363.4B59.85B.3B$29.105BDBD62B366.4B59.83B$28.
108BD10BC10B2D38B368.4B59.81B$27.91BD17B2D8BCBC8BD2BD21B2D13B370.4B
59.79B$28.89BDBD27B2C7BDB2DBD19BD2BD11B372.4B59.77B$29.88BDBD25BD9BDB
D2BDBD19BDBD13B371.4B59.75B$30.88BD19B2D5BD9BDBD2BDBD13B2D5BD14B372.
4B59.73B$30.109BD10B2D4BDB2DBD14BD20B374.4B59.72B$30.109BDBD3B2D2BDBD
5BD2BD13BDBD19B376.4B59.71B$31.78B2D29B2D2BD2BD2BD7B2D14B2D21B376.4B
59.70B$31.78B2D33BDBD52B375.4B58.69B$31.75BD38BD45B2D6BD375.4B55.70B$
32.73BDBD7BD65B2D8BDBD4BDBD375.4B52.68B.3B$33.2B.69BDBD5B3D33BD26BD4B
DBD8BDBD4B2DB375.4B49.70B$37.69BD5BD6BD28BDBD5B2D17BDBD4B2D9BD10B374.
4B47.70B$37.75B2D4BDBD23BD3BD2BD3BDBD18B2D27B374.4B45.70B$37.36B2.42B
DBD18B2D4BD4BDBD4BD40B.7B375.4B43.71B$37.36B3.41B2D19BDBD3BD5BD31BD
14B.6B377.4B41.72B$37.35B5.63BD14BD25BDBD5B2D12B379.4B39.72B$36.36B6.
62B2D12BDBDB2D20BD2BD5B2D11B381.4B37.30B2D41B$35.36B8.68B3D3BD2BDB2D
21B2D19B382.4B35.31B2D40B$34.4B.32B9.74B2D45B384.4B34.70B$33.4B2.31B
11.116B.3B385.4B32.36B2A33B$32.4B4.29B13.86B2D26B3.B387.4B32.35B2A33B
$31.4B5.28B15.49B2D8B2D11B2D11B2D25B393.4B31.69B$30.4B8.6B.18B17.48B
2D7BD2BD10BD38B395.4B30.28B3D36B$29.4B9.6B.17B19.51BD4BD2BD11B3D34B
397.4B28.31BD35B$28.4B12.2B4.2B4.9B21.49BDBD4B2D14BD33B399.4B28.29BD
35B$23.3B.4B25.8B23.48B2D24BD29B401.4B29.60B$15.2C5.8B10.A16.B3.B26.
73B3D26B403.4B28.60B$14.C2.C4.7B.B7.3A48.75BD24B405.4B27.60B$15.C.C4.
10B5.A52.31BC19BD21B2D14BD8B407.4B26.59B$16.C3.12B5.2A52.29BCBC17BDBD
36B3D5B409.4B24.59B$12.C6.14B.5B53.28BC2BC15BD2BD32BD6BD3B411.4B23.
59B$11.C.C5.18B56.28B2C17B2D22B2D8BDBD4B2D2B413.4B23.54B$11.C.C4.22B
54.41B2D27BD10BDBD6B392.2C21.4B24.52B$12.C5.23B54.39BD2BD24BDBD11B2D
5B393.C.C21.4B21.54B$16.2AB.22B54.39B2D21BD3B2D18B395.C23.4B20.53B$
15.A.AB.23B54.17B2C41BDBD10B.10B421.4B18.53B$15.A4.22B56.16BCBC39BDBD
10B3.B.5B424.4B17.49B.3B$14.2A5.20B58.16BC40B2D3B.6B7.4B425.4B17.45B$
22.19B59.17B2D28BD12B2.5B8.3B397.2A11.A16.4B4.B11.45B$21.21B59.15BD2B
D26BDBD12B.4B408.B2AB9.A.A16.4B2.3B12.42B$19.2AB.15B.4B59.14BD2BD5B2D
18BDBD17B410.3B9.A.A17.9B5.2A4.41B$18.A.AB3.10B5.4B59.14B2D5BD2BD17B
2D18B409.B.B9.2A.3A2.2A12.9B4.A7.38B$18.A6.10B6.4B59.20BD2BD31BD5B
409.5B8.B4.A2.A13.8B.BA.A9.32B.B$17.2A5.13B5.4B58.21B2D22B2D7BDBD5B
402.2C4.6B6.2AB3A3.A.AB2.4B3.9B.B2A9.32B$23.15B5.4B57.11BD33BD9BD5B
402.C2.C3.8B4.2A.A6.2AB2.5B2.11B10.4B5.23B$22.16B6.4B56.12BD30BDBD13B
405.C.C4.13B10.8B2.11B9.4B7.21B$21.17B7.4B55.10B3D30B2D5B2D5B408.C3.
13B12.21B8.4B7.21B$22.16B8.4B54.50B2DB415.15B12.19B8.4B8.20B$23.13B
11.4B53.54B414.15B10.B2.19B6.4B10.18B$23.5B2A2B.3B12.4B52.55B412.17B.
B5.26B3.4B12.16B$25.3B2A2B2.4B11.4B50.37BD17B413.51B.4B16.8B$20.2C3.
8B3.2A12.4B50.35BDBD17B411.13B2A13B2A21B.4B20.5B$20.2C2.8B4.A14.4B49.
7B.9B2D7B2D7B2D17B411.14B2A13B2A25B22.3B$12.C11.8B5.3A12.4B49.6B3.6BD
BD7BDBD20B2D2B411.2AB3.50B24.B$11.C.C10.7B8.A13.4B48.5B5.6BD9BD20BDBD
2B410.A2.A4.48B$12.2C10.7B23.4B48.2B9.36BD3B409.A.2A5.6B3.B2.2B2.33B$
25.6B7.A16.4B59.2B5.30B411.A7.6B13.4B2.7B2.16B$25.6B6.A.A16.4B66.2B3.
22B412.2A6.9B17.6B3.16B$26.5B6.A.A17.4B69.22B420.4B4.2A19.3B5.14B$26.
6B4.2A.3A16.4B68.18B426.B5.A15.2C4.B4.3B.9B$25.6B6.B4.A16.4B69.13B.B
434.3A12.2C9.2A3.8B$25.7B3.B2AB3A18.4B67.14B438.A24.A6.4B$26.8B.B2A.A
21.4B66.6B.6B424.B36.3A5.4B$26.10B26.4B65.6B2.5B423.4B34.A7.2A5.2C$
25.3B2A6B27.4B65.B.2B6.B423.2D2B44.A4.C2.C$19.2A5.2B2A6B28.4B497.DBDB
42.3A6.C.C$20.A5.10B29.4B495.3BD43.A9.C$20.A.AB2.11B29.4B493.4B26.2C
21.2C$21.2AB.12B30.4B491.4B27.C.C19.C2.C$23.15B30.4B489.4B29.C21.2C$
23.16B8.C21.4B487.4B$23.16B.2B4.C.C21.4B485.4B$23.18B2A4.2C22.4B483.
4B$22.17B.B2A29.4B481.4B$21.4B2.8B.4B.B31.4B479.4B$20.4B4.7B39.4B477.
4B$19.4B5.6B41.4B475.4B$18.4B6.4B44.4B473.4B$17.4B5.A3B5.2C40.4B471.
4B$16.4B5.A.AB5.C2.C40.4B470.3B$15.4B6.A.A7.C.C41.4B469.2B$14.3CB8.A
9.C43.4B$13.3BC6.3A55.4B$12.3BC7.A58.4B$11.4B68.4B$10.4B70.4B$9.4B72.
4B$8.4B74.4B$7.4B76.4B$6.4B78.4B$5.4B80.4B$4.4B82.4B$3.4B84.4B$2.4B
86.4B$.4B88.4B$4B90.4B$3B92.4B$96.4B$97.4B$98.4B$99.4B$100.4B$101.4B$
102.4B$38.3C62.4B$40.C$39.C135$328.D13.4B$327.2BD11.4B$327.3DB9.4B$
328.4B7.4B$329.13B$330.11B$331.6BC2B$329.7BCBC2B$329.7BCBC2B$329.8BC
2B$330.7B$330.2BC4B$331.CBC4B$331.CBC4B$332.C4B$332.3B$333.B48$307.D
10.A$305.D.D8.3A$306.2D7.A$315.2A7$305.2A$304.A.A5.2A$304.A7.2A$303.
2A2$317.A7.C$313.2A.A.A5.C.C$312.A.A.A.A5.C.C$309.A2.A.A.A.A.2A3.C$
309.4A.2A2.A2.A$313.A4.2A$311.A.A$311.2A$304.2C$303.C2.C$304.2C2$309.
2C$308.C2.C$309.C.C$310.C!
dvgrn wrote:
September 15th, 2020, 9:33 am
Oddly enough, having the self-destructed Snark's output glider be on the same lane as the Scorbie Splitter self-destruct's input glider, actually makes it harder to find cheap solutions with the right amount of delay. With let's say a ten- or twenty-lane mismatch, the retiming could probably be done with two 90-degree turners -- a boat, long boat or eater plus a two-object turner -- which would have saved one more bait object.
Hm. I should've thought about that. This part can be optimized with more searching, but I think that can be postponed to the polishing stage, if it happens.
dvgrn wrote:
September 15th, 2020, 9:33 am
If we want to connect this self-destruct sequence to the second fuse-lighting -- and really, given a TRIGGER1/TRIGGER2 design with separate following synchronized signals, why not do that? -- then we need to get an additional output glider from somewhere. Here's one option, but it takes three more bait still lifes:
There are several options of producing TRIGGER2 glider from the eater-destruction part with 2 still lifes.

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x = 178, y = 108, rule = LifeHistory
62.4B$61.4B$60.4B103.4B$59.4B103.4B$58.4B103.4B$57.4B103.4B$56.4B103.
4B$55.4B103.4B$54.4B103.4B$53.4B103.4B$52.4B103.4B$51.4B103.4B$50.4B
103.4B$49.4B103.4B$48.4B103.4B$47.4B103.4B$46.4B103.4B$45.4B103.4B$
44.4B103.4B$43.4B103.4B$42.4B103.4B$37.3B.4B103.4B$36.8B10.A92.4B$36.
7B.B7.3A7.2C78.3B.4B16.C$36.10B5.A5.2C3.2C77.8B10.A5.C.C$34.12B5.2A3.
C2.C81.7B.B7.3A5.2C$33.14B.5B3.C.C82.10B5.A$33.18B6.C81.12B5.2A3.2C$
32.22B84.14B.5B2.C2.C$32.23B83.18B5.2C$30.2AB.22B81.22B$29.A.AB.23B
80.23B$29.A4.22B79.2AB.22B$28.2A5.20B79.A.AB.23B$36.19B79.A4.22B$35.
21B77.2A5.20B$33.2AB.15B.4B84.19B$32.A.AB3.10B5.4B82.21B$32.A6.10B6.
4B79.2AB.15B.4B$31.2A5.13B5.4B77.A.AB3.10B5.4B$37.15B5.4B76.A6.10B6.
4B$36.16B6.4B74.2A5.13B5.4B$35.17B7.4B79.15B5.4B$36.16B8.4B77.16B6.4B
$25.2A10.13B11.4B75.17B7.4B$25.A.A9.5B2A2B.3B12.4B75.16B8.4B$26.A12.
3B2A2B2.4B11.4B63.2A10.13B11.4B$39.8B3.2A12.4B62.A.A9.5B2A2B.3B12.4B$
38.8B4.A9.2A3.4B62.A12.3B2A2B2.4B11.4B$38.8B5.3A5.A2.A3.4B74.8B3.2A
12.4B$38.7B8.A6.A.A4.4B72.8B4.A9.2A3.4B$38.7B16.A6.4B71.8B5.3A5.A2.A
3.4B$39.6B7.A16.4B70.7B8.A6.A.A4.4B$15.2A22.6B6.A.A16.3B70.7B16.A6.4B
$14.A.A23.5B6.A.A17.2B71.6B7.A16.4B$13.A.A24.6B4.2A.3A16.B47.2A22.6B
6.A.A16.3B$14.A24.6B6.B4.A62.A.A23.5B6.A.A17.2B$39.7B3.B2AB3A62.A.A
24.6B4.2A.3A16.B$40.8B.B2A.A65.A24.6B6.B4.A$40.10B94.7B3.B2AB3A$39.3B
2A6B6.2A87.8B.B2A.A$33.2A5.2B2A6B6.A.A86.10B$34.A5.10B7.A86.3B2A6B6.
2A$10.2A16.A5.A.AB2.11B87.2A5.2B2A6B6.A.A$10.A.A14.A.A5.2AB.12B88.A5.
10B7.A$12.A14.A2.A6.15B63.2A16.A5.A.AB2.11B$12.2A14.2A7.16B62.A.A14.A
.A5.2AB.12B$37.16B.2B61.A14.A2.A6.15B$19.A17.18B2A60.2A14.2A7.16B$18.
A.A15.17B.B2A85.16B.2B$18.A.A4.2A8.4B2.8B.4B.B68.A17.18B2A$19.A4.A.A
7.2A2B4.7B74.A.A15.17B.B2A$25.A7.ABAB5.6B75.A.A4.2A8.4B2.8B.4B.B$32.
3BA6.4B9.2A67.A4.A.A7.2A2B4.7B$31.4B5.A3B10.A2.A72.A7.ABAB5.6B$30.4B
5.A.AB12.2A80.3BA6.4B9.2A$29.4B6.A.A94.4B5.A3B10.A2.A$28.4B8.A94.4B5.
A.AB12.2A$27.4B6.3A94.4B6.A.A$26.4B7.A95.4B8.A$25.4B103.4B6.3A$24.4B
103.4B7.A$4.2A17.4B103.4B$3.A.A16.4B103.4B$5.A15.4B84.2A17.4B$20.4B
84.A.A16.4B$19.4B87.A15.4B$18.4B103.4B$17.4B103.4B$16.4B103.4B$15.4B
103.4B$14.4B103.4B$13.4B103.4B$12.4B103.4B$11.4B103.4B$10.4B103.4B$9.
4B103.4B$8.4B103.4B$7.4B103.4B$6.4B103.4B$5.4B103.4B$4.4B103.4B$3.4B
103.4B$2.4B103.4B$.4B103.4B$4B103.4B$106.4B$105.4B!
It would have to be redirected anyway, so the cost will increase.

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Re: Speed Demonoid

Post by dvgrn » September 15th, 2020, 2:49 pm

Pavgran wrote:
September 15th, 2020, 1:50 pm
There are several options of producing TRIGGER2 glider from the eater-destruction part with 2 still lifes...
It would have to be redirected anyway, so the cost will increase.
Not by much! Those last connections are all really easy:

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x = 1120, y = 588, rule = LifeHistory
1050.3A$1049.3BA$1048.3BA$1047.B2AB$999.2B45.2BAB$998.4B43.4B$997.5B
42.2BA3B2A$995.8B40.2BABA2B2A5.3A$993.9B2D11.2B25.2BABA3BABA3.3BA$
992.10BDBD10.4B4.B17.2BABA6B2A.3BA$993.10BD2B8.6B2.3B10.3A2.DBABA6BAB
4AB$994.4B2.6B3.2B2.12B9.3BA.BDCBA10B2AB$993.14B.3B.14B7.3BA.BDADA8BA
4B$992.37B3.4B.2BABA8BABA2B$991.11BD32B.BDCBA8BABA2B$990.11BDBD30B.2B
CDA8BABA2B$989.13BDBD28B.2BABA8BABA2B$988.15B2D30BCBAB2D5BADA2B$987.
9B2D36BCBCBD2BD3BABCDB$986.10B2D35BCBC3BDB2DBABCBD$985.40BD6BCBC8BADA
2B$508.2B474.41B2D4BCBC8BABADB$507.4B472.41BDBD3BCBC8BCDABD$500.3B3.
5B471.47BCBC8BCBA2B$500.3B2.8B468.29B2D5B2D9BCBC8BCBC2B$498.15B467.
16B2D3B2D6BD2BD3BDBD8BCBC8BCBC2B$489.2B3.21B464.2B2D12BD2BD2BDBD6BDBD
3BD9BCBC8BCBC3B$489.3B.23B462.3BDBD11BDBD4B2D7BD3B2D8BCBC8BCBC5B$487.
29B461.6BD12BD27BCBC8BCBC7B2.3A$487.30B.3B456.6B2D38BCBC8BCBC12BA$
486.36B453.47BCBC8BCBC12BA$486.37B451.5B2D19B2D7BD11BCBC8BCBC13B$480.
2B4.38B450.5BDBD18BDBD4B3D10BCBC8BCBC15B$479.3B3.39B450.6BDBD18BD4BD
12BCBC8BCBC17B$478.7B.40B450.5BD24B2D10BCBC8BCBC19B$477.50B450.40BCBC
8BCBC21B$476.51B449.40BCBC8BCBC23B$472.53B452.38BCBC8BCBC25B$471.54B
453.37B2C8BCBC9BD17B$469.54B454.14B2D31BCBC10B2D17B$469.52B455.15B2D
30BCBC10BDBD18B$469.52B454.47BCBC33B$469.52B453.47BCBC35B$468.51B450.
B3.8BD18BC19BCBC37B$468.51B449.11B3D2B2D13BCBC17BCBC39B$465.53B450.
10BD5BDBD13B2C16BCBC14B2D25B$464.55B448.11B2D6BD22B2D7B2C16BD26B41.2B
$462.58B447.6B3.10B2D20BD2BD21B3D28B40.3B$461.59B446.3BD4B.32BDB2DBD
20BD31B37.5B$459.62B445.2BDBD6BD17B2D9BDBD2BDBD52B36.7B$459.61B441.B.
B2.3BD6BDBD9B2D5B2D9BDBD2BDBD53B34.9B$457.63B440.5B.9BDBD11BD10B2D5BD
B2DBD21B2D32B33.10B$457.62B438.18B2D12BDBD3B2D2BDBD6BD2BD12B2D7BD2BD
32B22.B6.14B$456.63B438.8B2D23B2D2BD2BD2BD8B2D13BD9BDBD33B19.5B4.14B$
455.63B438.2B2D5B2D27BDBD25BDBD10BD35B11.2B3.8B.16B$453.64B439.BDBD
35BD26B2D24B2D22B9.4B.25B$453.65B437.3BD89BDBD22B7.32B$452.67B435.45B
2D6B2D40BD24B5.35B$450.69B435.15BD28BD2BD4BDBD66B4.36B$450.68B436.13B
3D25BD3BD2BD4BD16BD51B.38B$449.68B437.12BD6BD21BD4B2D9B2C10BDBD91B$
447.69B437.13B2D4BDBD20BD10BD4BCBC10B2D91B$447.67B438.19BDBD31BDBD4BC
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14.D2.D15.ABA$14.D3.D3.3D7.3BA$21.D3.D5.4B$25.D4.4B$23.2D4.4B$22.D5.
4B$21.5D.4B$26.4B$25.4B$24.4B$4.2C17.4B$3.C.C16.4B$5.C15.4B$20.4B$19.
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4B$6.4B$5.4B$4.4B$3.4B$2.4B$.4B$4B!
There's not much left to do beyond this, is there? -- except for compiling a few more recipes, like for the three boats, three blocks and a loaf that have to be put in place after the wickstretcher seed is triggered.

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Re: Speed Demonoid

Post by Pavgran » September 15th, 2020, 3:13 pm

dvgrn wrote:
September 15th, 2020, 2:49 pm
Not by much! Those last connections are all really easy:
Well, that construction site is very inaccessible. It can't be built by 90-deg crab-related elbow and by 0-deg main elbow. Perhaps it is best to build it with slow^2 elbow before building the Scorbie splitter. And then it would be best to reduce the cost as much as possible. The third block can be moved to the boat, where the output glider can be just suppressed.
dvgrn wrote:
September 15th, 2020, 2:49 pm
There's not much left to do beyond this, is there? -- except for compiling a few more recipes, like for the three boats, three blocks and a loaf that have to be put in place after the wickstretcher seed is triggered.
Yep, looks like it.

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Re: Speed Demonoid

Post by dvgrn » September 15th, 2020, 3:43 pm

Pavgran wrote:
September 15th, 2020, 3:13 pm
Well, that construction site is very inaccessible. It can't be built by 90-deg crab-related elbow and by 0-deg main elbow.
Ah, of course. Let's not do it that way, then. Something like this will work just as well, and should be all in the Constructible Zones:

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401.35B5.63BD14BD25BDBD5B2D12B379.4B10.9B20.72B$400.36B6.62B2D12BDBDB
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386.7B.B7.3A7.2C39.56B2C17BD24B405.4B27.60B$386.10B5.A5.2C3.2C40.51BD
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383.18B6.C49.28BC18B2D22B2D8BDBD4B2D2B413.4B18.2C3.54B$382.22B54.41B
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BA.A9.32B.B$381.2A5.13B5.4B14.4B2.4B34.21B2D22B2D7BDBD5B408.6B6.2AB3A
3.A.AB2.4B3.9B.B2A9.32B$387.15B5.4B14.8B35.11BD33BD9BD5B409.8B4.2A.A
6.2AB2.5B2.11B10.4B5.23B$386.16B6.4B14.6B36.12BD30BDBD13B412.13B10.8B
2.11B9.4B7.21B$385.17B7.4B14.4B37.10B3D30B2D5B2D5B386.5D21.13B12.21B
8.4B7.21B$386.16B8.4B12.6B36.50B2DB392.D22.15B12.19B8.4B8.20B$375.2C
10.13B11.4B10.8B35.54B391.D22.15B10.B2.19B6.4B10.18B$375.C.C9.5B2A2B.
3B12.4B9.10B33.55B390.D21.17B.B5.26B3.4B12.16B$376.C12.3B2A2B2.4B11.
4B8.7B2C2B31.37BD17B391.D3.4D14.51B.4B16.8B$389.8B3.2A12.4B7.6BCBC2B
32.35BDBD17B390.D3.D3.D12.13B2A13B2A21B.4B20.5B$388.8B4.A9.2C3.4B7.6B
C3B32.7B.9B2D7B2D7B2D17B395.D3.D11.14B2A13B2A25B22.3B$388.8B5.3A5.C2.
C3.4B11.3B35.6B3.6BDBD7BDBD20B2D2B396.4D11.2AB3.50B24.B$388.7B8.A6.C.
C4.4B48.5B5.6BD9BD20BDBD2B396.D2.D10.A2.A4.48B$388.7B16.C6.4B48.2B9.
36BD3B396.D3.D3.D4.A.2A5.6B3.B2.2B2.33B$389.6B7.A16.4B59.2B5.30B405.
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4B68.4B493.2C$374.4B70.4B$373.4B6.5D61.4B$372.4B9.D64.4B$371.4B10.D
65.4B$370.4B11.D66.4B$369.4B12.D3.4D60.4B$368.4B13.D3.D3.D60.4B$367.
4B18.D3.D61.4B$366.4B19.4D63.4B$365.4B20.D2.D64.4B$364.4B21.D3.D3.D
60.4B$364.3B29.2D61.4B$397.D62.4B$397.D63.4B$397.D64.4B$396.3D64.4B$
464.4B$465.4B$466.4B$402.3C62.4B$404.C$403.C117$724.2D$723.D.D$725.D
2$720.4B$719.4B$715.B2.4B$714.7B8.5D$691.4B18.7B11.D$692.4B16.7B12.D$
693.4B15.6B13.D$694.4B14.7B12.D3.4D$695.4B12.8B12.D3.D3.D$696.4B10.9B
16.D3.D$697.4B4.B.11B17.4D$698.4B2.14B17.D2.D$699.13BA4B18.D3.D3.D$
700.11BABA4B24.2D$701.11BABA4B24.D$702.11B2A5B23.D$703.18B22.D$703.
17B22.3D$703.17B$702.17B$702.17B28.2D$703.9B2A4B28.D.D$704.7BABA4B30.
D$705.7BA4B$705.10B$705.9B$706.B2.5B$710.3B24$716.3D$715.3BD$714.3BD$
713.4B$712.4B$711.4B$710.4B$709.4B$708.4B$707.4B$706.4B$705.4B$704.4B
2.5D$703.4B5.D$702.4B6.D$701.4B7.D$700.4B8.D3.4D$699.4B9.D3.D3.D$698.
4B14.D3.D$697.4B15.4D$696.4B16.D2.D$695.4B17.D3.D3.3D$694.4B25.D3.D$
693.4B30.D$665.4B23.4B29.2D$666.4B21.4B29.D$667.4B19.4B29.5D$668.4B
10.A6.4B$669.4B7.3A5.4B$670.4B5.A7.4B$671.4B4.2A5.4B15.3D$672.9B4.4B
18.D$673.6B5.4B18.D$673.8B2.4B$671.15B$671.14B$671.13B$669.2AB.10B$
668.A.AB3.B2A3B$668.A6.B2A3B$667.2A6.4B$676.3B$677.2B.BA$676.B2ABA.A$
668.2C5.BABABA.A$667.C2.C2.A2.A.A.A.A.2A$668.2C3.4A.2A2.A2.A$677.A4.
2A$675.A.A$675.2A2$687.2C$687.2C$673.C$672.C.C$672.2C85$8.5D$10.D$10.
D$10.D$10.D3.4D$10.D3.D3.D$14.D3.D$14.4D16.2A$14.D2.D15.ABA$14.D3.D3.
3D7.3BA$21.D3.D5.4B$25.D4.4B$23.2D4.4B$22.D5.4B$21.5D.4B$26.4B$25.4B$
24.4B$4.2C17.4B$3.C.C16.4B$5.C15.4B$20.4B$19.4B$18.4B$17.4B$16.4B$15.
4B$14.4B$13.4B$12.4B$11.4B$10.4B$9.4B$8.4B$7.4B$6.4B$5.4B$4.4B$3.4B$
2.4B$.4B$4B!
-- Or the three-block turner would work equally well with the boat+block ignition, same as before. Or we could save one bait object by finding some CP OTT or other that leaves a block behind after the turning is done. Must be lots of those out there, they've just never been collected.

Taking A Step Back From This Project For a Moment --
Good Golly, if somebody had told me when I was working on this old Geminoid blueprint, that in less than a decade we'd have complete universal constructor arm designs with only 32 constructible still lifes -- self-destruct circuitry included! -- I would have had a very hard time believing it. And that's not even mentioning the little detail of that constructor arm being able to build and burn a double-wicked crabstretcher to approach the absolute theoretical speed limit of c/4 diagonal.

(And the 32 number can obviously still be reduced, at least down to 30 and probably a bit below that.)

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Re: Speed Demonoid (completed)

Post by Pavgran » September 18th, 2020, 7:18 pm

Finally, Speed Demonoid is here!

Overall design looks like this:

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x = 386, y = 560, rule = B3/S23
59bo$58bobo$59bobo$60bobo$61bobo$62bobo$63bobo$55bo8bobo$54bobo8bobo$
55bobo8bobo$56bobo8bobo$57bobo8bobo$58bobo8bobo$59bobo8bobo46bo$60bobo
8bobo44bobo$61bobo8bobo43b2o$62bobo8bobo30bo$63bobo8bobo28bobo$64bobo
8bobo27b2o$65bobo8bobo$66bobo8bobo$67bobo8bobo$68bobo8bobo$69bobo8bobo
$70bobo8b2o$71bobo$72bobo$73b2o2$97bo$96bobo$96b2o8$196b2o$196b2o$80b
2o7b2o$79bobo7b2o$80bo5$120bo$119bobo$119b2o$83b2o$83b2o3$88b2o$88b2o
114bo$195b2o7b3o$195b2o3b2o5bo$199bo2bo3b2o$200bobo$201bo3$227b2o$227b
obo$229bo$229b2o3$224b2o$224bobo$226bo$226b2o5$232b2o$215b2o14bobo$
175b2o38b2o15bo$175bobo29b2o$176bo20b2o9bo$196bo2bo5b3o$196bobo6bo$
197bo$206bo$205bobo$205bobo$203b3ob2o$202bo$203b3ob2o$205bob2o$241bo$
201b2o12b2o23bobo$200bobo12b2o7b2o14b2o$201bo22bo$222bobo5bo$222b2o5bo
bo$228bo2bo$229b2o2$202b2o$202b2o31bo$234bobo$234bo2bo$235b2o$202b2o
38b2o$201bo2bo13bo22bobo$202b2o13bobo21b2o$217bobo$218bo$219b3o$221bo
36$b2o$obo$bo4$6b2o$5bo2bo$6bobo$7bo42$290bo$289bobo$289b2o3$296bo$
295bobo$295bo2bo$296b2o7$46bo$46b3o$49bo$48b2o7$58b2o$51b2o5bobo$51b2o
7bo$60b2o2$47bo326bo$46bobob2o321bobo$46bobobobo320b2o$31b2o10b2obobob
obo2bo$30bobo10bo2bo2b2ob4o$31bo13b2o4bo$51bobo$52b2o$63b2o$62bobo$63b
o3$53b2o318b2o$52bo2bo317bo$53b2o320bo$355b2o14b5o$356bo13bo$356bobo
12b3o$357b2o15bo$371b4o$366b2o3bo3b2o$366b2o4b3o2bo6bo$374bob2o5bobo$
148bo225bo8bobo$147bobo223b2o9bo$148bobo$149bobo$141bo8bobo212b2o$140b
obo8bobo211bo$141bobo8bobo211b3o$142bobo8bobo212bo$143bobo8bobo222bo$
144bobo8bobo220bobo$145bobo8bobo219b2o$146bobo8bobo$147bobo8bobo$148bo
bo8bobo$149bobo8bobo$150bobo8bobo$151bobo8bobo$152bobo8bobo$153bobo8bo
bo$154bobo8bobo$155bobo8b2o$156bobo$157bobo$158bobo$159bobo$160bobo19b
o$161bobo17bobo$162bobo16b2o$163b2o$191b2o$191b2o4$195b2o$181b2o12b2o$
181b2o6$170b2o$169bobo$170bo7$157b2o$156bobo$157bo11$154b2o$153bobo33b
2o$154bo33bobo$189bo54$220b2o$220bobo$221bo18$197b2o$179b2o16b2o24b2o$
179b2o41bo2bo$222bobo$199bo23bo$198bobo34bo$198bo2bo32bobo11bo$199b2o
29bo3b2o6b2o3bobo$229bobo10b2o3bobo$196b2o31bobo16bo$197bo25b2o2b3ob2o
$197bobo23bo2bo$198b2o21bobo3b3ob2o$221b2o6bob2o7$219b2o13b2o$219b2o
13b2o$249b2o$248bo2bo$249b2obo$252bo$252b2o$237b2o$238bo$210b2o23b3o$
210bo24bo$211b3o$204b2o7bo$204bo34bo$205b3o30bobo$207bo29bo2bo$219bo
18b2o$218bobo$218b2o$244b2o$243bo2bo$244bobo$245bo3$234b2o$233bobo12b
2o$234bo12bobo$247b2o2$268b2o$268bobo$268bo25$296bo$295b2o$295bobo44$
370b3o$370bo$371bo37$353bo$352b2o$352bobo!
Here are shown two halves of the Demonoid, crab tails, small 0-degree recipe (just the first 0, 109 of most of 0deg recipes) and TRIGGER1 and TRIGGER2 gliders.
What can be adjusted:
  • The distance between two halves
  • The distance between the Snark and the Scorbie splitter
  • TRIGGER1 timing
  • TRIGGER2 timing
However, two of these degrees of freedom are consumed by the restriction of interaction between parts. The splitter output of the first part has to arrive right into the Snark input of the second part, and vice verca. So, there remain two degrees of freedom.

Here is the tightest Speed Demonoid:
sdcycle.mc
Speed Demonoid
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sdstart.mc
Speed Demonoid predecessor
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The first one is easily-adjustable predecessor, the second one is actual ship.
The speed of this thing is 3492104/17723760=436513/2215479≈0.197, pretty close to c/5.
It runs fine in Golly, although it is not power-of-two optimized.

There are more things possible with similar design. The most fun are Kamikaze Demonoid, which gradually tightens it's spacings until it finally explodes, and Speeding and Slowing Demonoids which adjust their spacings to increase or decrease their speed during the flight. The first one's speed approaches c/4, and the second one's speed approaches 0. They stop beign ships though and are just a new type of pattern behaviour. I will post them when I finish the necessary adjustments.
Attachments
sdr.txt
Speed Demonoid recipe
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Re: Speed Demonoid (completed)

Post by dvgrn » September 18th, 2020, 9:18 pm

Pavgran wrote:
September 18th, 2020, 7:18 pm
Finally, Speed Demonoid is here!
Congratulations! It's really great to see this spaceship in working order. It seems really elegant. There are only 13 still lifes in each half of its permanent circuitry, plus another 26 that make up the TRIGGER1, TRIGGER2, and self-destruct paths -- under 40 still lifes in all (though one of them is a Snark catalyst). That's not counting all the objects that make up the double wickstretcher seed, but those are stored in the form of a glider stream most of the time.

I'll start working on a script that can build a Speed Demonoid matching any Nc/M speed below c/4, probably by building its glider synthesis... unless someone else beats me to it. I'm currently doing the overnight minpopandbb run to see what the minimum population and bounding box are for this particular Speed Demonoid version.

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Re: Speed Demonoid (completed)

Post by MathAndCode » September 18th, 2020, 9:45 pm

dvgrn wrote:
September 18th, 2020, 9:18 pm
Pavgran wrote:
September 18th, 2020, 7:18 pm
Finally, Speed Demonoid is here!
Congratulations! It's really great to see this spaceship in working order. It seems really elegant. There are only 13 still lifes in each half of its permanent circuitry, plus another 26 that make up the TRIGGER1, TRIGGER2, and self-destruct paths -- under 40 still lifes in all (though one of them is a Snark catalyst). That's not counting all the objects that make up the double wickstretcher seed, but those are stored in the form of a glider stream most of the time.

I'll start working on a script that can build a Speed Demonoid matching any Nc/M speed below c/4, probably by building its glider synthesis... unless someone else beats me to it. I'm currently doing the overnight minpopandbb run to see what the minimum population and bounding box are for this particular Speed Demonoid version.
Once we're done with that, I think that the self-constructing orthogonal spaceship with speed approaching c/2 is next. After that, I'm wondering whether or not the two ideas can be combined to make a fast spaceship with adjustable slope.

By the way, have you looked at my 17-glider universal construction? I know that you have worked on universal construction in the past.

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Re: Speed Demonoid

Post by Pavgran » September 19th, 2020, 8:19 pm

I've discovered a flaw in the current design. Due to the Snark being behind the still-burning second wick, you have to add delay to the loop proportional to the distance between the Snark and the splitter. So, the supremum of the speeds achieveable is 2c/9, not c/4. That is fixable, but requires rework of the design.
Also, crab launch time is such that it prevents hashlife-friendliness even for speeds like c/8. That is trivially fixable though.
Anyway, here are c/5 and c/137 Speed Demonoids:
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Re: Speed Demonoid

Post by dvgrn » September 19th, 2020, 9:46 pm

Pavgran wrote:
September 19th, 2020, 8:19 pm
I've discovered a flaw in the current design. Due to the Snark being behind the still-burning second wick, you have to add delay to the loop proportional to the distance between the Snark and the splitter. So, the supremum of the speeds achieveable is 2c/9, not c/4. That is fixable, but requires rework of the design.
Ah, another fine example of things going wrong in these projects, well after the last minute where you think anything could possibly go wrong. My early visualizations of this thing had the Scorbie Splitter and the Snark facing the other way, relative to where the wickstretcher was, but somehow when the two got swapped around in the new design I never thought about the conflict between the recipe and the remaining wick again.

It does seem like everything will work just as well if a mirror-image crabstretcher is built on the opposite side of the construction lane, but I guess the TRIGGER1 and TRIGGER2 one-time turners will have to be re-done. What's the specific requirement needed to make the crab launch time be potentially HashLife-friendly?

I checked that the c/5 Demonoid was really exactly c/5, by dropping a couple of 58P5H1V1z just in front of it, and confirming that this hair-raising near-collision happened at exactly the same offset on every cycle:

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x = 1066, y = 1072, rule = B3/S23
20b2o$20b2o$19bo2bo$16b2obo2bo$22bo$14b2o3bo2bo$14b2o5bo$15bob5o$16bo
3$13b3o$13bo$11b2o$5b2o4bo$5b3o3bo$3bo4bo$3bo3bo$7bo$2b2obobo$2o5bo$2o
4b2o$2b4o381$409b2o$408b2o$410bo$412b2o$411bo2$410bo2bo$402b2o5b2o$
401b2o5bo$403bo4bobo$405b2o2bo$405b2o$409bo$408bobo$409bobo$410bobo$
411bobo$412bobo$413bobo$414bobo$415bobo$416bobo$412b2o3bobo$411b2o5bob
o$413bo5bobo$420bobo$421bobo$422bobo$423bobo$424bobo$425bobo$426bobo$
427bobo$428bobo$429bobo$430bobo$431bobo$432bobo$433bobo$434bobo$435bob
o$436bobo$437bobo$438bobo$439bobo$440bobo$441bobo$442bobo$443bobo$444b
obo$445bobo$446bobo$447bobo$448bobo$449bobo$450bobo$451bobo$452bobo$
453bobo$454bobo$455bobo$456bobo$457bobo$458bobo$459bobo$460bobo$461bob
o$462bobo$463bobo$464bobo$465bobo$466bobo$467bobo$468bobo$469bobo$470b
obo$471bobo$472bobo$473bobo$474bobo$475bobo$476bobo$477bobo$478bobo$
479bobo$480bobo$481bobo$482bobo$483bobo$484bobo$485bobo$486bobo$487bob
o$488bobo$489bobo$490bobo$491bobo$492bobo$493bobo$494bobo$495bobo$496b
obo$497bobo$498bobo$499bobo$500bobo$501bobo$502bobo$503bobo$504bobo$
505bobo$506bobo$507bobo$508bobo$509bobo$510bobo$511bobo$512bobo$513bob
o$514bobo$515bobo$516bobo$517bobo$518bobo$519bobo$520bobo$521bobo$522b
obo$523bobo$524bobo$525bobo$526bobo$527bobo$528bobo$529bobo$530bobo$
531bobo$532bobo$533bobo$534bobo$535bobo$536bobo$537bobo$538bobo$539bob
o$540bobo$541bobo$542bobo$543bobo$544bobo$545bobo$546bobo$547bobo$548b
obo$549bobo$550bobo$551bobo$552bobo$553bobo$554bobo$555bobo$556bobo$
557bobo$558bobo$559bobo$560bobo$561bobo$562bobo$563bobo$564bobo$565bob
o$566bobo$567bobo$568bobo$569bobo$570bobo$571bobo$572bobo$573bobo$574b
obo$575bobo$576bobo$577bobo$578bobo$579bobo$580bobo$581bobo$582bobo$
583bobo$584bobo$585bobo$586bobo$587bobo$588bobo$589bobo$590bobo$591bob
o$592bobo$593bobo$594bobo$595bobo$596bobo$597bobo$598bobo$599bobo$600b
obo$601bobo$602bobo$603bobo$604bobo$605bobo$606bobo$607bobo$608bobo$
609bobo$610bobo$611bobo$612bobo$613bobo$614bobo$615bobo$616bobo$617bob
o$618bobo$619bobo$620bobo$621bobo$622bobo$623bobo$624bobo$625bobo$626b
obo$627bobo$628bobo$629bobo$630bobo$631bobo$632bobo$633bobo$634bobo$
635bobo$636bobo$637bobo$638bobo$639bobo$640bobo$641bobo$642bobo$643bob
o$644bobo$645bobo$646bobo$647bobo$648bobo$649bobo$650bobo$651bobo$652b
obo$653bobo$654bobo$655bobo$656bobo$657bobo$658bobo$659bobo$660bobo$
661bobo$662bobo$663bobo$664bobo$665bobo$666bobo$667bobo$668bobo$669bob
o$670bobo$671bobo$672bobo$673bobo$674bobo$675bobo$676bobo$677bobo$678b
obo$679bobo$680bobo$681bobo$682bobo$683bobo$684bobo$685bobo$686bobo$
687bobo$688bobo$689bobo$690bobo$691bobo$692bobo$693bobo$694bobo$695bob
o$696bobo$697bobo$698bobo$699bobo$700bobo$701bobo$702bobo$703bobo$704b
obo$705bobo$706bobo$707bobo$708bobo$709bobo$710bobo$711bobo$712bobo$
713bobo$714bobo$715bobo$716bobo$717bobo$718bobo$719bobo$720bobo$721bob
o$722bobo$723bobo$724bobo$725bobo$726bobo$727bobo$728bobo$729bobo$730b
obo$731bobo$732bobo$733bobo$734bobo$735bobo$736bobo$737bobo$738bobo$
739bobo$740bobo$741bobo$742bobo$743bobo$744bobo$745bobo$746bobo$747bob
o$748bobo$749bobo$750bobo$751bobo$752bobo$753bobo$754bobo$755bobo$756b
obo$757bobo$758bobo$759bobo$760bobo$761bobo$762bobo$763bobo$764bobo$
765bobo$766bobo$767bobo$768bobo$769bobo$770bobo$771bobo$772bobo$773bob
o$774bobo$775bobo$776bobo$777bobo$778bobo$779bobo$780bobo$781bobo$782b
obo$783bobo$784bobo$785bobo$786bobo$787bobo$788bobo$789bobo$790bobo$
791bobo$792bobo$793bobo$794bobo$795bobo$796bobo$797bobo$798bobo$799bob
o$800bobo$801bobo$802bobo$803bobo$804bobo$805bobo$806bobo$807bobo$808b
obo$809bobo$810bobo$811bobo$812bobo$813bobo$814bobo$815bobo$816bobo$
817bobo$818bobo$819bobo$820bobo$821bobo$822bobo$823bobo$824bobo$825bob
o$826bobo$827bobo$828bobo$829bobo$830bobo$831bobo$832bobo$833bobo$834b
obo$835bobo$836bobo$837bobo$838bobo$839bobo$840bobo$841bobo$842bobo$
843bobo$844bobo$845bobo$846bobo$847bobo$848bobo$849bobo$850bobo$851bob
o$852bobo$853bobo$854bobo$855bobo$856bobo$857bobo$858bobo$859bobo$860b
obo$861bobo$862bobo$863bobo$864bobo$865bobo$866bobo$867bobo$868bobo$
869bobo$870bobo$871bobo$872bobo$873bobo$874bobo$875bobo$876bobo$877bob
o$878bobo$879bobo$880bobo$881bobo$882bobo$883bobo$884bobo$885bobo$886b
obo$887bobo$888bobo$889bobo$890bobo$891bobo$892bobo$893bobo$894bobo$
895bobo$896bobo$897bobo$898bobo$899bobo$900bobo$901bobo$902bobo$903bob
o$904bobo$905bobo$906bobo$907bobo$908bobo$909bobo$910bobo$911bobo$912b
obo$913bobo$914bobo$915bobo$916bobo$917bobo$918bobo$919bobo$920bobo$
921bobo$922bobo$923bobo$924bobo$925bobo$926bobo$927bobo$928bobo$929bob
o$930bobo$931bobo$932bobo$933bobo$934bobo$935bobo$936bobo$937bobo$938b
obo$939bobo$940bobo$941bobo$942bobo$943bobo$944bobo$945bobo$946bobo$
947bobo$948bobo$949bobo$950bobo$951bobo$952bobo$953bobo$954bobo$955bob
o$956bobo$957bobo$958bobo$959bobo$960bobo$961bobo$962bobo$963bobo$964b
obo$965bobo$966bobo$967bobo$968bobo$969bobo$970bobo$971bobo$972bobo$
973bobo$974bobo$975bobo$976bobo$977bobo$978bobo$979bobo$980bobo$981bob
o$982bobo$983bobo$984bobo$985bobo$986bobo$987bobo$988bobo$989bobo$990b
obo$991bobo$992bobo$993bobo$994bobo$995bobo$996bobo$997bobo$998bobo$
999bobo$1000bobo$1001bobo$1002bobo$1003bobo$1004bobo$1005bobo$1006bobo
$1007bobo$1008bobo$1009bobo$1010bobo$1011bobo$1012bobo$1013bobo$1014bo
bo$1015bobo$1016bobo$1017bobo$1018bobo$1019bobo$1020bobo$1021bobo$
1022bobo$1023bobo$1024bobo$1025bobo$1026bobo$1027bobo$1028bobo$1029bob
o$1030bobo$1031bobo$1032bobo$1033bobo$1034bobo$1035bobo$1036bobo$1037b
obo$1038bobo$1039bobo$1040bobo$1041bobo$1042bobo$1043bobo$1044bobo$
1045bobo$1046bobo$1047bobo$1048bobo$1049bobo$1050bobo$1051bobo$1052bob
o$1053bobo$1054bobo$1055bobo$1056bobo$1057bobo$1058bobo$1059bobo$1060b
obo$1061b2o$1062b4o$1064b2o!
#C [[ TRACK -1/5 -1/5 ]]
EDIT: The search for the minimum bounding box for the original Speed Demonoid variant finally concluded. Attached is the lowest-population phase, which is also one of the phases with the minimum bounding box. Oddly enough, the bounding box doesn't change size at all over the next 1,558,359 ticks, though it's moving steadily northwest at c/4.
sdcycle-min.mc.gz
sdcycle.mc at minimum size: pop = 1021124, bounding box = [872867, 1839173]
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Re: Speed Demonoid

Post by Pavgran » September 22nd, 2020, 1:45 pm

Speed Demonoid v2 progress report:

The next version of the Speed Demonoid will have less SLs (probably) and shorter recipe (surely), as well as actually achieving sub-c/4 speed.
Blueprint so far:

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x = 445, y = 328, rule = LifeHistory
106.2D$106.D.D$107.D36.2A$143.A.A$145.A$142.A$106.D34.2A$105.D.D33.2A
$106.D.D33.2A$107.2D30.A3.2A6.2A$100.2D36.A.A.A2.2A3.A.A$100.2D35.A.A
4.3A5.A$129.2A5.A.A10.A$128.A.A4.A.A10.2A$130.A3.A.A8.A$133.A.A8.A.A$
114.2D5.2D9.A.A8.A.A$100.2D3.2D6.D2.D3.D.D8.A.A8.A.A$85.2D12.D2.D2.D.
D6.D.D3.D9.A.A8.A.A$85.D.D11.D.D4.2D7.D3.2D8.A.A8.A.A$87.D12.D27.A.A
8.A.A$87.2D38.A.A8.A.A$126.A.A8.A.A$83.2D19.2D7.D11.A.A8.A.A$83.D.D
18.D.D4.3D10.A.A8.A.A$84.D.D18.D2C2.D12.A.A8.A.A$85.D19.B2C2.2D10.A.A
8.A.A$103.2B.B14.A.A8.A.A$102.7B11.A.A8.A.A$102.8B9.A.A8.A.A$100.12B
7.2A8.A.A9.2A$95.2D.15B3D12.A.A9.A.A$95.2D.7BC4BD5B2D9.A.A12.A$98.6BC
BC2BD7BD8.A.A$99.5BC2BC8B2D7.A.A$85.D16.3B2C2BD4BD9.A.A$83.3D2.2D12.
13B8.A.A$82.D5.D.D12.9B10.A.A14.2D$82.2D6.D11.10B10.2A16.D$90.2D10.6B
29.3D$73.D29.6B9.3D16.D$72.D.D6.D17.2D2.2B.4B8.D.D$73.D6.D.D9.2D5.2D
6.4B10.D$79.D.D11.D10.2D2.4B9.D16.2D$79.2D12.D.D3.2D2.D.D15.D6.2D7.D
2.D$69.2D23.2D2.D2.D2.D23.D9.D.D$62.2D5.2D27.D.D25.D.D10.D$61.D.D35.D
26.2D24.2D$62.D89.D.D$103.2D6.2D40.D$73.D28.D2.D4.D.D$71.3D25.D3.D2.D
4.D16.D$70.D6.D21.D4.2D2C7.2C10.D.D$70.2D4.D.D20.D6.2C2.D4.C.C10.2D$
75.D.D31.D.D.2D.C$75.2D31.D2.D.2D$93.2D7.3D4.2D$92.D2.D32.2D$86.2D4.D
2.D27.2D.B.2D$65.D19.D2.D4.2D5.D9.2D11.2D.2B9.2D$64.D.D18.D.D12.3D7.D
15.3B8.2D$64.2D20.D16.D7.3D12.4B5.B2C$102.2D9.D13.4B3.2BCBC$83.D8.D
23.D11.4B.4BCB$82.D.D6.D.D22.3D10.10B$82.D.D6.2D26.D10.9B4.D$83.D34.
2D10.9B3.D.D$94.2D33.10B2.D2.D$63.D30.2D32.4B.6B3.2D$62.D.D62.4B3.4B$
63.2D2$133.2D$74.2D56.D.D$73.D2.D51.2D2.2D$73.D2.D50.D.D$74.2D50.D.D$
127.D3$104.D$76.2D25.D.D8.2D4.2D$75.D2.D5.2D16.D.D8.D2.D2.D.D$75.D2.D
4.D.D16.2D10.2D3.2D$76.2D6.D$106.2D$106.D$104.D.D$104.2D2$109.2D$109.
2D2$106.2D$105.D2.D$106.2D2$99.B$98.2B$97.3B$88.2EB5.4B$87.EBE2B3.4B$
78.4B5.BE4B.4B$77.4B6.10B$76.4B7.9B$75.4B8.9B$74.4B9.10B$64.2B7.4B10.
6B.4B$63.3B2.3B.4B12.4B3.B$62.4B.8B10.A$61.4B2.7B.B7.3A7.5D2.3D4.2D$
60.4B3.10B5.A12.D4.D2.D2.D2.D$59.4B2.12B5.2A11.D4.3D6.D$58.4B2.14B.5B
11.D4.2D6.D$57.4B3.18B13.D4.D.D4.D$56.4B3.22B10.D4.D2.D2.4D$55.4B4.
23B$54.4B3.2AB.22B$53.4B3.A.AB.23B$42.B9.4B4.A4.22B$41.3B7.4B4.2A5.
20B$41.3B2.2B2.4B13.19B$40.13B13.21B$40.12B12.2AB.15B.4B$39.12B12.A.A
B3.10B5.4B$39.11B13.A6.10B6.4B$38.12B12.2A5.13B5.4B305.D$37.13B18.15B
5.4B303.D.D$36.14B17.16B6.4B303.2D35.3A$36.14B16.17B7.4B341.A$35.15B
17.16B8.4B339.A$36.13B19.13B11.4B335.2A$38.9B21.5B2A2B.3B12.4B334.A$
38.8B24.3B2A2B2.4B11.4B$37.9B24.8B3.2A12.4B330.A3.2A$36.11B22.8B4.A
14.3B329.A.A2.2A5.3A$35.12B22.8B5.3A12.2B278.2D48.A.A3.A.A6.A$35.13B
21.7B8.A13.B277.D2.D46.A.A6.2A4.A$35.13B21.7B300.D.D33.3A10.A.A6.A.4A
$35.4BC8B22.6B7.A293.D36.A9.A.A10.2A$35.3BCBC8B21.6B6.A.A314.2D5.2D5.
A9.A.A8.A$35.2BCBC8B23.5B6.A.A313.D2.D3.D.D14.A.A8.A.A$14.5D2.3D5.D5.
2B2C7B25.6B4.2A.3A289.6BC.2D13.D.D3.D15.A.A8.A.A$16.D4.D2.D3.2D5.9B
26.6B6.B4.A287.6BCBC2D14.D3.2D14.A.A8.A.A$16.D4.3D3.D.D6.6B2C26.7B3.B
2AB3A288.7B2C35.A.A8.A.A$16.D4.2D6.D6.7BCB26.8B.B2A.A290.9B34.A.A8.A.
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214.9B$213.9B$212.6B2CB$213.4BC2BCB$214.4B2C2B$216.5B$217.2B!
The crab is a lot closer to the construction lane now. I've confirmed that it can be built that way (there is an option for fully 0-deg construction, as well as for partly 90-deg, partly 0-deg construction). The Scorbie Splitter (+TR1 seed) recipe can fly along the wick, and the TR2 seed will not come outside the current bounding box at the critical side. The Snark-side TR1 seed is on the other side from the main lane, and is closer to the construction lane, so the recipe will be cheaper. If there happens to be some problem with the crab being too close, there will always be an option to move it farther away. The TR1 seed will remain the same, and TR2 would have to be recompiled or adjusted.
What is left to be done is to search with GoL-destroy for the proper destruction+TR2 seeds. On the blueprint above the TR2 is emulated for one side with gold (state 5) glider and boat.
This design will also able to be "overclocked" - the TR1 firing while the construction is not finished. That glider would have to not interfere with the recipe though, so some possibilities would be blocked. But that will allow for smaller Speed Demonoid.

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Re: Speed Demonoid

Post by dvgrn » September 22nd, 2020, 2:03 pm

Pavgran wrote:
September 22nd, 2020, 1:45 pm
Speed Demonoid v2 progress report:

The next version of the Speed Demonoid will have less SLs (probably) and shorter recipe (surely), as well as actually achieving sub-c/4 speed...
Awesome! I was hoping you'd be working on a rebuild (so I wouldn't have to). The new blueprint looks good. Here's hoping that this time I'm not missing any obvious flaws.

If I can be of any help building exact-timing TR1 and TR2 seeds, please post the problem here. You've been getting such good results with GoL-destroy that I don't think I should even try to compete in that area.

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Re: Speed Demonoid

Post by Pavgran » September 24th, 2020, 11:57 am

I've minimized SL count.
TR1: 2 SLs are used to split the signal, 2 SLs are used to turn it near the Snark, and 2 SLs are used to trigger the seed.
TR2: 6 SLs destruct the splitter, emitting two gliders (one towards Snark, one towards wick trigger), 3 SLs destruct the Snark, emitting one glider towards the splitter. 2 SLs are used to switch glider lane and adjust timing. 1 SL is used to turn the wick-triggering glider and 2 SLs are used to trigger the wick.
Total: (2+2+2)+(6+3+2+1+2)=20 SLs.
Almost all of that can't be reduced further except if there is a combination of OTTs costing less, but that's unlikely.
Here is a demonstration of the current design showing the ability to overclock TR1.

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Re: Speed Demonoid

Post by dvgrn » September 24th, 2020, 12:23 pm

Pavgran wrote:
September 24th, 2020, 11:57 am
I've minimized SL count... Total: (2+2+2)+(6+3+2+1+2)=20 SLs.
Wow, looks very good! Definitely good enough that I'm not in the least tempted to spend any time trying to improve on it.

I was worried for a moment that the TR2 continuing signal was coming from the TR1 reaction, but it's just very nearby and kind of confusing when TR1 is overclocked like this.

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Re: Speed Demonoid

Post by Pavgran » September 26th, 2020, 3:25 pm

Speed Demonoid v2 is ready!

Here is the smallest non-overtimed version:
sdv2cycle.mc
Speed Demonoid v2
(427.36 KiB) Downloaded 109 times
It has speed 3285622c/16493928d = 1642811c/8246964d ≈ 0.199c, even closer to c/5 than previous variant.

Here is an overtimed variant. I think it has the smallest possible bounding box for a Speed Demonoid with that recipe.
sdv2over.mc
Speed Demonoid v2 overtimed
(441.15 KiB) Downloaded 96 times
It has speed 1645220c/9932320d = 82261c/496616d ≈ 0.166c

And here is the recipe.
sdrv2.txt
Speed Demonoid v2 recipe
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